BTW we have just been hit with a "privacy complaint" from TH-cam regarding this video, most likely from the Commodore driver who had already complained to us via Facebook. So the clip could possibly be removed.
Which car is valueable? They all lose value over time no matter what. I gotta love bashers of Ford/Holden/ Toyota and etc. Had Holden, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi and nothing wrong with the cars. They all served me without major repairs probably because I spent money on maintaining. Yeah bough in 2014 Benz Vito missing feature which I had standard in Toyota 2009 but for some reason Mercedes charges extra.
Nope, he didnt hit the trailer, no mark was visible, he came damn close to it though and would have been screwed if that driver with the trailer had to suddenly veer to his left. That trailer however is another thing, his indicated isn't working on the trailer, brake lights are which is a good thing, but the lovely yellow isn't.
Yes, but only an idiot sits in the potential blind-spot of a rig that big and expects to merge safely. A person with a brain will simply let the rig go, and fall in behind.
Coover I'm not saying that the truck driver wasn't being a bit of a dick... he was, a bit. But understandably so. Idiot drivers often need a wake-up call.
I had a woman in a BMW do that to me years ago. I was in an Argosy and saw her in my rear view, then she disappeared. I pulled up and she was wedged between my left steer and the guard rail. She had the audacity to scream and rant at me and claim I was trying to kill her...Cops and witnesses saw it another way entirely. To those watching this wondering why the truckie didn't back off? Easy, BLIND SPOTS. Don't fuck with something 10 times your size and 40 times your weight and you may just live to see another day.
actually, if its a thin long dotted line the people on the highway have to give way, but if the car reaches the fat short dotted lines, the car has to give way to the highway, you have a small chance to get on the highway and people should give way, hence getting into the overtaking lane if people are trying to merge onto the highway, but if the person merging takes too long, they have to stop and give way to the highway til its open, but in this case, its stand still bumper to bumper traffic, but if the truck has let someone in already, the car should of waited his turn, and gone behind the truck, regardless of any situation, the car is at fault here, have a little respect for the people driving the trucks, its really not hard to give 30 seconds of your time considering the small amount of time people use the roads compared to a truck driver who spends 8-12 hours a day on the road...
Walter Boxhead the lines i was talking about represent stop and giveway signs and also must be followed the same way, like at intersections and what not, they all mean the same. From the QLD government transport website: Stop and give way lines Stop and give way lines have the same meaning and authority as stop and give way signs. If you approach a stop line or give way line, where there is no corresponding sign installed, you must obey the road markings as if there was a sign in place. and this one too in queensland: www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/road/lanes/index.html 1. On roads where there are lanes marked on the road-if your lane comes to an end, you must give way to traffic already in the lane you are moving to. In this example, Vehicle A (white) must give way to Vehicle B (yellow). 2. On roads where there are no lanes marked on the road-when lines of traffic merge, you must give way to any vehicle that is ahead of you. In this example, Vehicle B (yellow) must give way to Vehicle A (white). Lines of traffic refers to adjacent rows of vehicles that do not have a lane separation line between them.
Walter Boxhead but that was exactly what i said in the first place? before you commented that it was wrong, which it wasnt.... i only looked the information up to get a better way of what i was trying to say, i knew what it was before looking it up... but yeah, my reference to like a intersection still stands, im not calling it an intersection, im merely referencing the similar properties of the lines...
@@raf12907 nah. No one's worse than commo drivers. All the erratic meth drivers drive commos. Beamer drivers are bad but wouldn't let their car get scratched so easily
Actually it’s a written rule and in Australia is called zipper formation, the person merging is always at fault in these circumstances because we inherently give way to the right and it’s up them to zip into formation not the cars already travelling
No that wasn’t a zip merge. A zip merge is where the dotted white line stops and you are not technically changing lanes and in which case the car in front has right of way. In this case there is no break in the dotted white line and thus the white car IS changing lanes and should only do so if safe to proceed and otherwise should have given way. White car completely in the wrong.
Driver crossing any white line gives way to driver not crossing any white line. Only exception to that rule I can think of is that you must give way to someone exiting a roundabout from the inside lane, if you are in the outside lane. Roundabouts are usually designed so this situation is rare though.
Imagine changing the law so dashcam material can be submitted by the public to the authorities for review and an associated fine. This stuff would stop very quickly. I'm for it.
Wilson Law very true, and it's the same as when your on the water.... Might has right! If they are bigger than you, then you WILL come off second best end of story.
From a physics standpoint, you’re correct. But two things to think about: 1) most guys driving these work for a company. Often if they get in any wreck (especially one that could have been avoided, even if it wasn’t their ‘fault’), they lose a safe driving bonus, get in trouble, may even be fired. 2) if the car driver sues the truck/bus driver, more jurors will be sympathetic to the car driver simply because there are a lot more car drivers than truck/bus drivers. So, the truck will win the battle, but the truck driver may well lose the war.
If he saw that then he is the asshole. He could have simply decreased his speed to let him merge. But He said in the video clearly "I can't see you there" or something. But still blind spot monitoring is his responsibility.
@@SSchithFoo If the commodor was in front then you'd have a valid argument. You can't just merge when you're parallel with someone. The commodor only passed the truck by using the shoulder therefore he is at fault. Also you need to merge like a zip, so commodor should have gone in behind the truck. Look up "blind spots on trucks" on google and you'll see just how many there are, especially on a long nose with no hood mirrors.
@@SSchithFoo he's not changing lanes and road markings there show that merging lane must give way. The truck driver had zero obligation to give way to merging vehicles, so all responsibility falls on the merging vehicles.
suckmysilencer747 Truck driver could see him from the beginning. It's why as soon as the car comes into frame, the truck driver speeds up to block him.
Dear truckers, on behalf of car drivers, I apologize for muppets in Commodores who don't understand 1-for-1 zipper merging. Dear boxheads, regardless of painted lines or Victorian legislation, when performed correctly the zipper merge is the most mathematically efficient, easy-to-understand, and socially courteous means for merging. Any time you start thinking about your 'rights', you're probably in the wrong. Instead consider what would be best for the road system and its collective users as a whole.
Ben, I thought the rule was the vehicle in a lane has right of way over a vehicle wishing to enter that lane when there is a dashed line. So it is only a matter of courtesy the Commodore would be let in. I also understand the rule when there is no dashed line the vehicle ahead has the right of way. That is where the zipper thing comes in, I think. Not when there's a dashed line. That's what I thought it was. But could be wrong. Whichever way we look at it, the Commodore was a total idiot for attempting to force the truck to back off. You and I would realise the truck is not letting us in and would give up, wouldn't we.
Try that argument in court. This is not a zip merge. Never ever expect courtesy, just follow the law. If someone lets you in great, and thank them for it.
When there is traffic like this and one lane has to merge and there is a lot of traffic we at least in Sweden (and Europe) are taught to let every other car in (zipper merge). So that both lanes moves... This nuthead tries to merge in at the same "spot" as the car with the trailer.
That's surprisingly not taught in Australia or even a legislative requirement. Nor is it signed. In Australia we merge based on who has the right of way at the end of the lane. Or who is willing to play chicken.
Oh.. ok.. I kind of assumed that it worked there as well since as what I can see the 4 cars in front of the douch zipper merge as one should. (Every other car)
In traffic engineering, the late merge or zipper method is a convention for merging traffic into a reduced number of lanes. Drivers in merging lanes are expected to use both lanes to advance to the lane reduction point and merge at that location, alternating turns.
And why is the White Car being so victimized here ( yes the White Car may have been in the wrong) when the Truck has acknowledged seeing the car and could have easily lifted off and avoided all this.
@@terminator2812 Because bullies will never learn if their behaviour always gets them what they want. Commodork driver should have just backed off and gone behind the truck.
ahahha that pretty much sums up the usual holden drivers lmaoo...this also happened to me with another holden driver however he was further back than thr guy in the video but I could see from my mirror he didn't want to merge in behind me and tried to cut me off but I was driving a rental truck so I didn't wanna deal with the headache of dealing with insurance and paying excess and just changed lanes so the idiot wouldn't hit me...the best part was that he drives up next to me and tries to intimidate me (in a truck) with his little ute by swerving into my lane!
I always just give way when im slow rolling, it doesnt piss people off and i end up with a happy guy up front and a non beat up car 😁 plus im rarely in a hurry to get somewhere and i love my car lmao
@@brendo8044 the stereotype is that Commodore driver's and Falcon drivers ( both fall into the same category) are fucken houso bogan drugo wankers........... And for some reason their indicators never seem to work lol......BUT YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS ....don't you !
Dear comment from 2017-ish! Yes, TH-cam Studio has the functionality to blur certain parts of videos AFTER they have been uploaded, to address privacy complaints exactly like this one 👍
I've never even heard of 1 for 1 merging. My understanding of Victorian rules are: Crossing no lines to merge = "zip merge"= whoever has their nose in front has right of way Crossing lines to merge= car in continuing lane has right of way (the truck in this case) Is the 1 for 1 thing considered a courtesy rather than a law? I have seen the 'take turns to merge' signs around also. Would this situation be considered different with the inclusion or absence of such a sign, all other things being equal?
The commodore has to give way to the truck, he/she is merging onto the road so the truck had ride of way. 1 for 1 or zip merging has been around forever, it's not technically a law but common courtesy. The commodore driver is in fault and is quite an asshole for thinking that they're a special snowflake.
yes 1 for 1 is a courtesy, it is not written into the law. However in this case because the left lane is crossing a line they all have to give way to the through traffic. In heavy built up traffic like this courtesy is the only way
This guy with the webcam caused this problem by not allowing that white car to merge. It's practically bumper to bumper traffic and that car got caught in a merge lane that was running out. A little road courtesy avoids problems.
@@Cheesus-Sliced Sorry dude, the camera appears to be centrally placed and besides the Truckie does (or should) have mirrors on the nearside to cover the side view ... either the Truckiie didn;t;t see him coming (lack of obs) or he 'DENIED' the manouvre ( perfectly legit in my opinion as it wa s made far too late ) The numskull in the HOLDEN ( most of them are ) left it way too late to try and force a way in ... see also the HOLDEN driver (RED) a few cars ahead who nudged in in front of the yellow (NISSAN?) The Yello car driver appears not to have been pating full attention either ... red holden was half way into the gap before Yellow Nissan driver realised and tried to close the gap ... Fact is none of those in the clip were showing much by way of 'anticipation; or 'consideration for other road users' ... But a good vid to argue over good naturedly over a beer :-)
I have to go by this road often when heading home from the orthodontist. I must say, the traffic isnt too good here for merging. But that Commodore was next level stupidity.
This was discussed on Radio the other day with a Senior Police officer and the comment was after hearing the audio and seeing it, it all comes down to "Ethics" on the Truck Drivers behalf
Both these guys are in the wrong. The truck driver knew there was a car trying to get in and there was several times where he had the chance to allow him in and we know that he sees this happening from his commentary. The white car should have just waited his turn though and gotten in behind the truck, although we cant see what kind of haul this truck had, it may have been a more viable option for him to get in front. Without all the facts though, im just gunna call it and say both these guys could use some training on traffic etiquette.
All we know from the commentary is that the truck driver couldn't see the car until it had moved forward enough, that's why he was shocked they were there
Merge like a zip, and most car drivers do when its car vs car. But 90% of people in cars seem to think that for every long truck the same length of cars should be allowed to merge in front of the truck. Nah-uh, the zip still applies.
Slow moving traffick, it's fair to allow one car to merge. He had already allowed the trailer vehicle to merge so the idiot in the white car should have gone behind. How do these people even get a license?
Another example of a driver who does not understand that when merging in a controlled merging lane the merging vehicle must give e way to vehicles in the lane and if necessary stop.
@@alexwillis7093 Negative. The vehicle crossing the line must always give way to the vehicles not crossing the line. The only exception is if someone drives aggressively to prevent merging on motorway onramps.
@@Cheesus-Sliced the truck has the "right of way" but as a professional driver she should know the cars there and just let it merge. Because if there's an accident the truck can be stuck for hours and no truck driver wants the police looking over their log books and truck 😂
People in cars need to understand how many blind spots trucks have ..I always make sure I can see their review mirror when behind them, then I know they can see me ! and I will not pass until it is totally safe to do so or until they let me pass or give the all clear to pass...trust our truckies!
Move into a potential blind spot next to a truck & indicate - check Wonder why truck isn't letting me in even though he has already let someone in and I don't have right of way to begin with - check Remain in blind spot - check Wave arm around like a dildo - check Nearly run into trailer because my own incompetence - check! What a wanker.
In the USA the merge traffic sign has a zipper to show its merge 1 by 1 each side. Plus the truck driver can't see the dickhead in that Commodore because there is a blind spot in that corner
Amazing. If only you people on the highway would just space yourselves out, the flow of traffic would all the sudden smooth out. 99% of traffic issues are because of Human Error. People 'Want to be first' or 'dont cut ME off!'.. You just add to the problem. Slow down, let others in, work as a team. When in traffic, you're no longer a single entity. Think of yourself as a fluid. One little boulder in the stream can disrupt flow and force other 'water' to go around. Work together.. Team effort You as the driver of this truck had EVERY opportunity to ease your brakes and let the car in. But you decided, "THIS IS MY SPOT". At first he was the idiot, you just compounded the problem.
@@valerierodger7700 Obviously not but what difference does one extra car make when you're driving a slow truck. The white car was being a dickhead but the truck driver didn't have to keep compounding the problem by blocking him. Both of them have too big of an ego.
Lol the truck driver says "you missed it, I'm not letting you in" then twenty seconds later is all "I can't see you there"... Car was in the wrong but the truckie knew exactly what he was doing...
the truck driver had a chance to prevent the accident but decided to ram the merging car... the merging car failed to give way, but the trucker still needs to lose his job for not avoiding an accident
Truck was should have let the guy in to avoid a crash, but the idiot in the commodore shouldn't have tried to push in either, especially staying alongside the truck in the shoulder.
Just because the camera catches it, which would be high and forward on the window doesn't mean the truck driver behind the wheel can see the dickhead in the commodore. He was also _past_ the truckies side mirror so how could he been seen?
Except at 0:45 the truck driver can be heard saying that he let one in, which would seem to be an out loud justification for not letting the commodore in (hence indicating he knew he was there). The commodore driver's an idiot for trying to push his way in and should have backed off though.
That's a logical thought until you realize the truck driver couldn't see the commodore *at all* from their driving position until after the commodore was out in front. They're not watching the road from the dashcam POV. That's why the truckie acts surprised near the end.
Would it have been beyond the realms for the Commodore to zipper merge properly like everybody else? And do you not understand that truckers generally have schedules to keep?
0:43 "This Fuck" That line right there just shows that the semi is being an aggressive driver and could have prevented the situation. There was no blindspot at that point and I question the existence of one before that. Trucks have mirrors that can see that position.
Mate you can clearly see the commodore driver comes hauling up to get in front of the truck, and that could be for several reasons including a stereotype of trucks being slow and holding traffic up. People who are merging have to give way, therefore the commodore is in fault as he/she has to give way to the truck. If anyone is the aggressive one, it's the commodore driver, he/she is also a pushy asshole.
I drive a truck in the UK and this sort of thing happens all of the time ,car drivers crawl up the slip road and expect people to slow down or change lanes to let them on. Next they'll be wanting truck drivers to give way on roundabouts.
One at a time is normally how merging is done. It's not like he would've lost much time in that much traffic anyway by correctly merging behind the truck.
I had the same thing done to me in the tunnel where the left lane was 'closed' but ya know how they like to get as far down as possible. Ended up backing off when he forced his way in, slammed the horn and he flipped me off. Funny part was im on my L's 😂.
It comes down to how much traffic there is. In congestion, you should use all lanes until reaching the merging point. Without congestion, you should merge early.
Man I had the opposite problem just a couple of days ago, probably the first time I've actually encountered someone doing this. But I was about a car and a half ahead of the car in traffic, so he was half a car length behind the back of my car. I put my indicator on to merge and he speeds up, so as I go to merge his now at my back and by the time the merging lane ends his half way up my car. Now this would not be a huge issue if he was a normal car, or a massive construction barrier was not occupying what used to be the emergency lane. But I now have to break hard because an idiot with a trailer saw my indicator and decided to try and overtake me while I was in the merging lane! Surely most people know the rules of a merging/slip lane, don't get me wrong I've come across many that don't but I've never had one that was not even equal with me but well behind try to get ahead of me. Add to this my car has a transmission problem so I could not compete with him, I had no choice but to basically stop my already challenged car in a construction zone on a freeway!
That wasn’t a zip lane. Dotted white line all the way and the white car should only cross the line when safe to do so, otherwise STOP. A zip merge is where the dotted white line stops and neither vehicle is technically changing lanes and in which case the car in front has right of way.
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They think that as soon as they put their indicators on that all the traffic beside them will magically disappear.
Aussie Pie Reminds me of how basically everyone in Queensland thinks. They literally cannot merge to save their lives.
YEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Merging from Juliette Street onto the Motorway every afternoon!! And wonder why the its so congested
BTW we have just been hit with a "privacy complaint" from TH-cam regarding this video, most likely from the Commodore driver who had already complained to us via Facebook. So the clip could possibly be removed.
Looks like a public road to me.
Dash Cam Owners Australia i can only imagine how many shit cunts find themselves on your vids and then try to complain
tell him this was put up for educational purposes and to get a lawyer
how pathetic of the loser!
could always accidentally leak his info
The worst drivers are thoose who dont understand that they actually are at fault.
He was in a trailer so he couldnt see him, sorry for replying after 4 years
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Hahaha when he gets mad and then hits the trailer coz he's distracted, pissed myself haha
does he not care about scratching his own car ?
Those holdens ain't worth shit 2,000 at max they're like diamonds, people over pay for shit they think is valuable but really isn't
They're called Commodores for a reason ... Because only COMMOners drive them
Which car is valueable? They all lose value over time no matter what. I gotta love bashers of Ford/Holden/ Toyota and etc. Had Holden, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi and nothing wrong with the cars. They all served me without major repairs probably because I spent money on maintaining. Yeah bough in 2014 Benz Vito missing feature which I had standard in Toyota 2009 but for some reason Mercedes charges extra.
trafficled I refer to them as Bogandores. Every bogan on the road drives one.
It might be a company car, in which case he'll just blame the next person to use the car for the scratches.
1:09 shows his hand up like an arsehole!
then because hes distracted by doinh that he hits the trailer haha
That would've been the perfect time to give him the airhorn!
Nope, he didnt hit the trailer, no mark was visible, he came damn close to it though and would have been screwed if that driver with the trailer had to suddenly veer to his left. That trailer however is another thing, his indicated isn't working on the trailer, brake lights are which is a good thing, but the lovely yellow isn't.
Hey I like your name....you must have over 8 million drivers on video!
truck driver could see him. 0:43 "I already let one of ya in"
Yes, but only an idiot sits in the potential blind-spot of a rig that big and expects to merge safely. A person with a brain will simply let the rig go, and fall in behind.
" A person with a brain will simply let the rig go, and fall in behind"....ahh, yes there lies the problem!
Coover I'm not saying that the truck driver wasn't being a bit of a dick... he was, a bit. But understandably so. Idiot drivers often need a wake-up call.
I hate it when people think they are allowed to merge just because the lane looks like it forces you to.
I had a woman in a BMW do that to me years ago. I was in an Argosy and saw her in my rear view, then she disappeared. I pulled up and she was wedged between my left steer and the guard rail. She had the audacity to scream and rant at me and claim I was trying to kill her...Cops and witnesses saw it another way entirely.
To those watching this wondering why the truckie didn't back off? Easy, BLIND SPOTS. Don't fuck with something 10 times your size and 40 times your weight and you may just live to see another day.
The last few seconds of the video explains it
He was in a hurry to get to the Panel Beaters to have his car repaired.
The truckie is entitled to hold his place in the traffic & lane.
Ross Westmore Indeed according to the road rules, if they have to cross a dotted line, they have to give way.
actually, if its a thin long dotted line the people on the highway have to give way, but if the car reaches the fat short dotted lines, the car has to give way to the highway, you have a small chance to get on the highway and people should give way, hence getting into the overtaking lane if people are trying to merge onto the highway, but if the person merging takes too long, they have to stop and give way to the highway til its open, but in this case, its stand still bumper to bumper traffic, but if the truck has let someone in already, the car should of waited his turn, and gone behind the truck, regardless of any situation, the car is at fault here, have a little respect for the people driving the trucks, its really not hard to give 30 seconds of your time considering the small amount of time people use the roads compared to a truck driver who spends 8-12 hours a day on the road...
Walter Boxhead the lines i was talking about represent stop and giveway signs and also must be followed the same way, like at intersections and what not, they all mean the same. From the QLD government transport website:
Stop and give way lines
Stop and give way lines have the same meaning and authority as stop and give way signs.
If you approach a stop line or give way line, where there is no corresponding sign installed, you must obey the road markings as if there was a sign in place.
and this one too in queensland: www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/road/lanes/index.html
1. On roads where there are lanes marked on the road-if your lane comes to an end, you must give way to traffic already in the lane you are moving to. In this example, Vehicle A (white) must give way to Vehicle B (yellow).
2. On roads where there are no lanes marked on the road-when lines of traffic merge, you must give way to any vehicle that is ahead of you. In this example, Vehicle B (yellow) must give way to Vehicle A (white).
Lines of traffic refers to adjacent rows of vehicles that do not have a lane separation line between them.
Walter Boxhead but that was exactly what i said in the first place? before you commented that it was wrong, which it wasnt.... i only looked the information up to get a better way of what i was trying to say, i knew what it was before looking it up... but yeah, my reference to like a intersection still stands, im not calling it an intersection, im merely referencing the similar properties of the lines...
Walter Boxhead is right. Your first comment seemed irrelevant and you're just throwing in information that supports Walter more than you.
bet he wouldnt do that when the truck is going 100km/h, or would he??
The guy in the white car had the give way line so he has to give way to the people in the right lane. No one had to let him for any reason.
But I'm a COMMODORE driver and I'm tuffa than ew!
They invented Holdens to keep dickheads out of Fords
Oh please, they are both shit boxes!!
I'm a Commodore driver and I rate BMW drivers more deplorable.
@@raf12907 nah. No one's worse than commo drivers. All the erratic meth drivers drive commos. Beamer drivers are bad but wouldn't let their car get scratched so easily
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Unwritten rule of merging : You only let one car in and this is what he did
Actually it’s a written rule and in Australia is called zipper formation, the person merging is always at fault in these circumstances because we inherently give way to the right and it’s up them to zip into formation not the cars already travelling
No that wasn’t a zip merge. A zip merge is where the dotted white line stops and you are not technically changing lanes and in which case the car in front has right of way. In this case there is no break in the dotted white line and thus the white car IS changing lanes and should only do so if safe to proceed and otherwise should have given way. White car completely in the wrong.
@@BESHYSBEES Geez, you haven't got a clue. It's not a roundabout..
Driver crossing any white line gives way to driver not crossing any white line.
Only exception to that rule I can think of is that you must give way to someone exiting a roundabout from the inside lane, if you are in the outside lane. Roundabouts are usually designed so this situation is rare though.
@@iamdave84 Spot on
Imagine changing the law so dashcam material can be submitted by the public to the authorities for review and an associated fine. This stuff would stop very quickly. I'm for it.
they have that in china where the person submitting it gets part of the fine.
Police in NSW are publicly encouraging that right now !
So good to still have this video up, years later.
i always just put it this way: Trucks are always have the right of way just like buses, you just cant win them.
Wilson Law very true, and it's the same as when your on the water.... Might has right! If they are bigger than you, then you WILL come off second best end of story.
he wouldnt have had right of way against a car either. australians just dont know how to merge.
@@kingprone7846 speak for yourself.
@@nate2611 no
From a physics standpoint, you’re correct. But two things to think about:
1) most guys driving these work for a company. Often if they get in any wreck (especially one that could have been avoided, even if it wasn’t their ‘fault’), they lose a safe driving bonus, get in trouble, may even be fired.
2) if the car driver sues the truck/bus driver, more jurors will be sympathetic to the car driver simply because there are a lot more car drivers than truck/bus drivers.
So, the truck will win the battle, but the truck driver may well lose the war.
I'm a truck driver myself, he knew he was there just didn't want to let him in lol.
True, keeping a VERY small distance between himself and car in front...
Love it!
If he saw that then he is the asshole. He could have simply decreased his speed to let him merge. But He said in the video clearly "I can't see you there" or something. But still blind spot monitoring is his responsibility.
@@SSchithFoo If the commodor was in front then you'd have a valid argument. You can't just merge when you're parallel with someone. The commodor only passed the truck by using the shoulder therefore he is at fault. Also you need to merge like a zip, so commodor should have gone in behind the truck. Look up "blind spots on trucks" on google and you'll see just how many there are, especially on a long nose with no hood mirrors.
@@SSchithFoo he's not changing lanes and road markings there show that merging lane must give way. The truck driver had zero obligation to give way to merging vehicles, so all responsibility falls on the merging vehicles.
Shouldn't have let him in.
Except it was impossible for the truck driver to see him.
suckmysilencer747 Truck driver could see him from the beginning. It's why as soon as the car comes into frame, the truck driver speeds up to block him.
suckmysilencer747 Agreed. That's why I said they shouldn't have let him in.
Yeah sure, why not just pull over to the side of the road and let everyone go, not like the truck driver has anywhere to be aye?
TheBluBalls You misread my comment lol.
Dear truckers, on behalf of car drivers, I apologize for muppets in Commodores who don't understand 1-for-1 zipper merging.
Dear boxheads, regardless of painted lines or Victorian legislation, when performed correctly the zipper merge is the most mathematically efficient, easy-to-understand, and socially courteous means for merging. Any time you start thinking about your 'rights', you're probably in the wrong. Instead consider what would be best for the road system and its collective users as a whole.
I'd like to read the paper that shows it is the most efficient version of merging, but it is definitely easy to understand and courteous 👍
Apology accepted, give way to your right and crossing dotted lines means give way.
Ben, I thought the rule was the vehicle in a lane has right of way over a vehicle wishing to enter that lane when there is a dashed line. So it is only a matter of courtesy the Commodore would be let in. I also understand the rule when there is no dashed line the vehicle ahead has the right of way. That is where the zipper thing comes in, I think. Not when there's a dashed line. That's what I thought it was. But could be wrong. Whichever way we look at it, the Commodore was a total idiot for attempting to force the truck to back off. You and I would realise the truck is not letting us in and would give up, wouldn't we.
Try that argument in court. This is not a zip merge. Never ever expect courtesy, just follow the law. If someone lets you in great, and thank them for it.
@@robguyatt9602 You are spot on.
what kind of death race vehicle you are driving??
Someone should really relearn zipper merge!
this is not a zip merge.
When there is traffic like this and one lane has to merge and there is a lot of traffic we at least in Sweden (and Europe) are taught to let every other car in (zipper merge). So that both lanes moves... This nuthead tries to merge in at the same "spot" as the car with the trailer.
That's surprisingly not taught in Australia or even a legislative requirement.
Nor is it signed. In Australia we merge based on who has the right of way at the end of the lane. Or who is willing to play chicken.
Oh.. ok.. I kind of assumed that it worked there as well since as what I can see the 4 cars in front of the douch zipper merge as one should. (Every other car)
Well it's a good, common sense practice. And not a whole lot is lost in many people's mind if they just let in one car.
In traffic engineering, the late merge or zipper method is a convention for merging traffic into a reduced number of lanes. Drivers in merging lanes are expected to use both lanes to advance to the lane reduction point and merge at that location, alternating turns.
except this isn't a zip merge 🙄
Just Let them in FFS maybe adds 2s to your journey time
And why is the White Car being so victimized here ( yes the White Car may have been in the wrong) when the Truck has acknowledged seeing the car and could have easily lifted off and avoided all this.
@@terminator2812 Because bullies will never learn if their behaviour always gets them what they want.
Commodork driver should have just backed off and gone behind the truck.
@@terminator2812 the white car WAS in the wrong, and in a spot where the driver couldn't see them til they got further ahead
It's a Commodore driver what do you expect?
ahahha that pretty much sums up the usual holden drivers lmaoo...this also happened to me with another holden driver however he was further back than thr guy in the video but I could see from my mirror he didn't want to merge in behind me and tried to cut me off but I was driving a rental truck so I didn't wanna deal with the headache of dealing with insurance and paying excess and just changed lanes so the idiot wouldn't hit me...the best part was that he drives up next to me and tries to intimidate me (in a truck) with his little ute by swerving into my lane!
good old Commodore drivers acting like they usually do thinking they own the road
What was blurred on the car?
At 0:42 you can hear him say, "get stuffed, i let one in" Clearly the truckie new he was there.
Clearly the commodore driver had to give way to the truck.
I always just give way when im slow rolling, it doesnt piss people off and i end up with a happy guy up front and a non beat up car 😁 plus im rarely in a hurry to get somewhere and i love my car lmao
Typical commodore drivers fault. Truck already let a merger in. Commodore should have merged behind.
Reinforcing the commodore stereotype.
Which is?
@@brendo8044 the stereotype is that Commodore driver's and Falcon drivers ( both fall into the same category) are fucken houso bogan drugo wankers........... And for some reason their indicators never seem to work lol......BUT YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS ....don't you !
@@brendo8044 you live in a different country obviously, if you don't know such things
Must get in front of the truck at all cost, seen it many times.
Is this a new upload with the blur or are there features that you can add to the video after it's uploaded?
Dear comment from 2017-ish! Yes, TH-cam Studio has the functionality to blur certain parts of videos AFTER they have been uploaded, to address privacy complaints exactly like this one 👍
roohif I’ve since used that feature myself lol :)
He gained 0.25 second LOL
@1:07 did the nob hit the trailer of the ute?
I've never even heard of 1 for 1 merging. My understanding of Victorian rules are:
Crossing no lines to merge = "zip merge"= whoever has their nose in front has right of way
Crossing lines to merge= car in continuing lane has right of way (the truck in this case)
Is the 1 for 1 thing considered a courtesy rather than a law?
I have seen the 'take turns to merge' signs around also. Would this situation be considered different with the inclusion or absence of such a sign, all other things being equal?
The commodore has to give way to the truck, he/she is merging onto the road so the truck had ride of way. 1 for 1 or zip merging has been around forever, it's not technically a law but common courtesy. The commodore driver is in fault and is quite an asshole for thinking that they're a special snowflake.
1:1 is standard practice for congestion as it is the most effective and efficient method
yes 1 for 1 is a courtesy, it is not written into the law. However in this case because the left lane is crossing a line they all have to give way to the through traffic. In heavy built up traffic like this courtesy is the only way
How hard is it to do 1 for 1
I am so glad how those events happened! lol
Nice driving mate, show us your southern cross tattoo. 👍
This guy with the webcam caused this problem by not allowing that white car to merge. It's practically bumper to bumper traffic and that car got caught in a merge lane that was running out. A little road courtesy avoids problems.
So, if the camera can see the small white car ... what was preventing the truck driver from seeing it ?
Drivers on the right, cameras on the left
@@Cheesus-Sliced Sorry dude, the camera appears to be centrally placed and besides the Truckie does (or should) have mirrors on the nearside to cover the side view ... either the Truckiie didn;t;t see him coming (lack of obs) or he 'DENIED' the manouvre ( perfectly legit in my opinion as it wa s made far too late )
The numskull in the HOLDEN ( most of them are ) left it way too late to try and force a way in ... see also the HOLDEN driver (RED) a few cars ahead who nudged in in front of the yellow (NISSAN?) The Yello car driver appears not to have been pating full attention either ... red holden was half way into the gap before Yellow Nissan driver realised and tried to close the gap ...
Fact is none of those in the clip were showing much by way of 'anticipation; or 'consideration for other road users' ...
But a good vid to argue over good naturedly over a beer :-)
@@kitcarr4668 the camera is up high above the LEFT vane on the bonnet. The camera is to the left, the driver is to the right.
@@Cheesus-Sliced I guess you were the Nunskull in the HOLDEN then ;-)
Have a nice day :-) :-) :-)
@@kitcarr4668 wow. A prime example of lower than the standard deviation you are.
Three words: "Trucks always win"
If the title didn't have the location of where it was, you'd think this were in Perth, cause most drivers here can't merge for shit.
Same applies for Brisbane...Qld in general.
Got that right!!!
I have to go by this road often when heading home from the orthodontist. I must say, the traffic isnt too good here for merging. But that Commodore was next level stupidity.
Plot twist: It was the truck driver's mechanic test driving his car after working on it.
Merge like a zip.
Unfortunately some only have experience with velcro
This was discussed on Radio the other day with a Senior Police officer and the comment was after hearing the audio and seeing it, it all comes down to "Ethics" on the Truck Drivers behalf
Great question... what were they doing!?!? 🤔🤌
Dash cams are the shit! Will always hold up in court!🤣
Both these guys are in the wrong. The truck driver knew there was a car trying to get in and there was several times where he had the chance to allow him in and we know that he sees this happening from his commentary. The white car should have just waited his turn though and gotten in behind the truck, although we cant see what kind of haul this truck had, it may have been a more viable option for him to get in front. Without all the facts though, im just gunna call it and say both these guys could use some training on traffic etiquette.
All we know from the commentary is that the truck driver couldn't see the car until it had moved forward enough, that's why he was shocked they were there
I definitely need a face palm emoji.
it looks like that person doesn't know how to zip a jacket by himself
Merge like a zip, and most car drivers do when its car vs car. But 90% of people in cars seem to think that for every long truck the same length of cars should be allowed to merge in front of the truck. Nah-uh, the zip still applies.
Slow moving traffick, it's fair to allow one car to merge. He had already allowed the trailer vehicle to merge so the idiot in the white car should have gone behind. How do these people even get a license?
Another example of a driver who does not understand that when merging in a controlled merging lane the merging vehicle must give e way to vehicles in the lane and if necessary stop.
Oh, he just wanted to get in front of the sLoW tRuCk
The truck driver is at fault if she didn't know that car was there trying to merge then she should learn to use her mirrors better.
@@alexwillis7093 Negative. The vehicle crossing the line must always give way to the vehicles not crossing the line. The only exception is if someone drives aggressively to prevent merging on motorway onramps.
@@Cheesus-Sliced the truck has the "right of way" but as a professional driver she should know the cars there and just let it merge.
Because if there's an accident the truck can be stuck for hours and no truck driver wants the police looking over their log books and truck 😂
@@alexwillis7093 Sorry Alex, wrong guess. Would you like to go for double jeopardy where the scores can really change
I should have known lol , a bloody Holden driver !
i take it the holden drivers have the same reputation as white van drivers here in the uk?
HE has never driven anything other than his Holden..forgive him.
Faster than your POS boy..
HOLD YOUR GROUND you are in the right
I think the more time goes on, the more that people merging onto a highway EXPECT people to slow down or change lanes for them.
Yes, that’s why it’s called MERGING. It’s not a competition or race, just let people in the fucking lane and then all traffic runs smoothly.
@@vintagebabyseventythree6244 yes, merging. Do you not understand a zipper merge? Alternating vehicles? Clearly in the idiot in the white car doesn't.
Give him a little push to help him since he is so hurried.
Gotta beat the truck, gotta beat the truck, gotta beat the truck.....YES I win!
let me innn, LET ME INNNNNN!
Commodores and meth dealers 🤣🤣🤣
They were coming in whether you liked it or not lol. They walk amongst us...
People in cars need to understand how many blind spots trucks have ..I always make sure I can see their review mirror when behind them, then I know they can see me ! and I will not pass until it is totally safe to do so or until they let me pass or give the all clear to pass...trust our truckies!
Move into a potential blind spot next to a truck & indicate - check
Wonder why truck isn't letting me in even though he has already let someone in and I don't have right of way to begin with - check
Remain in blind spot - check
Wave arm around like a dildo - check
Nearly run into trailer because my own incompetence - check!
What a wanker.
In the USA the merge traffic sign has a zipper to show its merge 1 by 1 each side. Plus the truck driver can't see the dickhead in that Commodore because there is a blind spot in that corner
Amazing. If only you people on the highway would just space yourselves out, the flow of traffic would all the sudden smooth out. 99% of traffic issues are because of Human Error. People 'Want to be first' or 'dont cut ME off!'.. You just add to the problem. Slow down, let others in, work as a team. When in traffic, you're no longer a single entity. Think of yourself as a fluid. One little boulder in the stream can disrupt flow and force other 'water' to go around. Work together.. Team effort You as the driver of this truck had EVERY opportunity to ease your brakes and let the car in. But you decided, "THIS IS MY SPOT". At first he was the idiot, you just compounded the problem.
Legally you don't have to give way but why not just let him in (after all you're driving a truck) and then there wouldn't be a problem?
@@valerierodger7700 Obviously not but what difference does one extra car make when you're driving a slow truck. The white car was being a dickhead but the truck driver didn't have to keep compounding the problem by blocking him. Both of them have too big of an ego.
Amazing
Lol the truck driver says "you missed it, I'm not letting you in" then twenty seconds later is all "I can't see you there"... Car was in the wrong but the truckie knew exactly what he was doing...
He was probably talking about other vehicles on the left that he could actually see, that would then start backing off to move in behind him
the truck driver had a chance to prevent the accident but decided to ram the merging car...
the merging car failed to give way, but the trucker still needs to lose his job for not avoiding an accident
Truck was should have let the guy in to avoid a crash, but the idiot in the commodore shouldn't have tried to push in either, especially staying alongside the truck in the shoulder.
bit hard to see the car from the truckies POV
Where that car was is a blind spot for the truck driver.
Idk what English you learn't, but the truck driver could not have seen a car where it was.
Just because the camera catches it, which would be high and forward on the window doesn't mean the truck driver behind the wheel can see the dickhead in the commodore. He was also _past_ the truckies side mirror so how could he been seen?
Except at 0:45 the truck driver can be heard saying that he let one in, which would seem to be an out loud justification for not letting the commodore in (hence indicating he knew he was there).
The commodore driver's an idiot for trying to push his way in and should have backed off though.
aggro bogan in the commodore got a nice scratch lol sucked in
Yes play chicken with a truck, always a winning choice!
The truck wasn’t going anywhere in a hurry, would it have been beyond the realms to have let two cars in?
That's a logical thought until you realize the truck driver couldn't see the commodore *at all* from their driving position until after the commodore was out in front. They're not watching the road from the dashcam POV. That's why the truckie acts surprised near the end.
Would it have been beyond the realms for the Commodore to zipper merge properly like everybody else?
And do you not understand that truckers generally have schedules to keep?
Why didn't you let him in?
a) not the end of the merging lane b) he let one car in
@@kingprone7846 C) literally couldn't see them
you couldn't let it go could you?
This amongst many other reasons is why I hate driving in Australia.
Persistence is key
The truck has right of way. I'm sure the police will agree on this one
ignorant car driver just has to get in front of the truck
0:43 "This Fuck"
That line right there just shows that the semi is being an aggressive driver and could have prevented the situation. There was no blindspot at that point and I question the existence of one before that. Trucks have mirrors that can see that position.
Mate you can clearly see the commodore driver comes hauling up to get in front of the truck, and that could be for several reasons including a stereotype of trucks being slow and holding traffic up. People who are merging have to give way, therefore the commodore is in fault as he/she has to give way to the truck. If anyone is the aggressive one, it's the commodore driver, he/she is also a pushy asshole.
so good.
It’s probably a short person with a lot of attitude 😂
I drive a truck in the UK and this sort of thing happens all of the time ,car drivers crawl up the slip road and expect people to slow down or change lanes to let them on. Next they'll be wanting truck drivers to give way on roundabouts.
Last second mergers give me the shits
Ok but the truck could have slowed down to let him in. He was in the wrong but blocking him into the emergency lane isn’t right either.
One at a time is normally how merging is done. It's not like he would've lost much time in that much traffic anyway by correctly merging behind the truck.
Hate this part of the Ring Road, near my house, absolute shit show once it hits 80km/h
Is this greensbough just off plenty rd?
Kitejunkiee Yeah mate
Better hope the guy in the white car doesn't join the army. He'd never be able to master walking in step, i.e. left, right, left, right...
NEVER GIVE -UP- WAY
Every day this happens to me!
Or you could, you know... let them in to prevent a complication?
I looked up this rego the guy now has a Ford Mustang god help wa people haha 😂
Yup. Ice is a helluva drug.
I had the same thing done to me in the tunnel where the left lane was 'closed' but ya know how they like to get as far down as possible. Ended up backing off when he forced his way in, slammed the horn and he flipped me off. Funny part was im on my L's 😂.
It comes down to how much traffic there is. In congestion, you should use all lanes until reaching the merging point. Without congestion, you should merge early.
Man I had the opposite problem just a couple of days ago, probably the first time I've actually encountered someone doing this. But I was about a car and a half ahead of the car in traffic, so he was half a car length behind the back of my car. I put my indicator on to merge and he speeds up, so as I go to merge his now at my back and by the time the merging lane ends his half way up my car. Now this would not be a huge issue if he was a normal car, or a massive construction barrier was not occupying what used to be the emergency lane. But I now have to break hard because an idiot with a trailer saw my indicator and decided to try and overtake me while I was in the merging lane! Surely most people know the rules of a merging/slip lane, don't get me wrong I've come across many that don't but I've never had one that was not even equal with me but well behind try to get ahead of me. Add to this my car has a transmission problem so I could not compete with him, I had no choice but to basically stop my already challenged car in a construction zone on a freeway!
That wasn’t a zip lane. Dotted white line all the way and the white car should only cross the line when safe to do so, otherwise STOP. A zip merge is where the dotted white line stops and neither vehicle is technically changing lanes and in which case the car in front has right of way.
Unbelievable!!!
Personally I wouldn't edge my way in front of a huge truck but hey... Maybe that's just me.