YZ500 vs 700cc 2 Stroke vs KX450 Dirt Bike Shootout
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- This is the dirt bike battle we've all been waiting for! 2023 YZ500 vs 700cc 2 Stroke vs 450 Four Stroke. It's finally time to see which bike is the king of them all and the supreme MX machine! In the ultimate 2 stroke battle we see the Megalodon 700 go head to head against the YZilla 500, and then we see the Big Bore beasts go toe to toe versus the KX450 race bike. But first the YZILLA must take on a bunch of four strokes...Who have you got for the win in this ultimate Motocross drag race?
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I think u actually just proved how fast a ktm250exc 4 stroke is lol.
Yeah, I think a 250F or 2 stroke is enough for me when I get back into motocross after 18 years break....
I’m getting older and can’t risk getting hurt. So I went back down to a yz125. I’m way faster on the 125 then 250. It’s not all about power.
To the naked eye, but these 500cc bikes need to be running bigger rear tires what 250f loses in power it gains in usable traction.
@@UTP_ENT well they had the option to run whatever they wanted but they didn't, so it still holds that a 250f is super quick.
It just showed how a better launch, and rider can make up a big perf. diff. I like when they show actual times of each run. I think the guy riding the yz 500 had his worst launch, and time vs the 250, therefore making it much closer than if they raced last, after he got more comfortable racing. Also with minimal traction, power can be a detriment to quickness, if not masterfully managed.
Been waiting for this one!
A long way from my YZ 465 and 490, "air hammers"
You guys are having too much fun out there! Wait till it gets a little dryer, do it again. And all winter long lay your hands on all the big bore two strokes you can.
Even franken bikes, (YZs with RZ engines,'350 twins, YPVS, ETC....)
Seems to look like if the 450 got a good start it wouldn't lose
Seems like but not in a drag race. The 4 strokes linear torque curve is far better at producing traction. Vs the 2 strokes peaky power delivery. Thats what was on display.. the 2 strokes had no traction the 4s had slightly more. The 2 stroke will destroy that 450 IF!! they have traction. In a drag race. Another 100ft and thar 450 would have walked both the 2 strokes. They can't compete on the big end. 450 turning higher rpm a power approaching red line than the 2 strokes. The 2 strokes simply make way more peak torque. Both are laying down probably at least 10 more ftlb at peak numbers than the 450.
Now this is a video i have to watch! Awesome job Max!
Thanks Ken, Hope you are well buddy.
This is just neat! I was just commenting about the maico 700 kaplan america had then saw this comment lol. Keep the power to the ground and don't stop. Long Live the 2strokes
I have a 1994 kx500 (video on channel) and a built 2005 crf450r (my brothers bike). We have done many dig and roll races over the years and the 450r, believe it or not, usually pulls on the 500 till around 80 mph (tested speed using garmin watch). My brother and I weigh almost the exact same too. We were also racing on the road and not in the dirt so results are much more accurate (no slipping and trying to stay in ruts). Most of the riding we do is hooligan stuff on the road like wheelies and stoppies and every once in a while tearing up a farmers field. You should try racing on pavement and I guarantee these races would be different.
Built 4-strokes are fast. Is your kx stock? The kx responds very well to mods. My 87 wasn't stock but won many drag races. When dragging Built 4 strokes, terrain seemed to be the biggest factor. The 2 stroke was noticeably faster on the loose stuff and the 4-stroke had an edge on the slippery hardpack. Better traction.
@@Max-sj9sj it has a full fmf pipe, VForce reeds, suspension and bigger radiators. When we rebuilt the bottom end after locking the engine up from giving her hell, also found the stator was turned up one click. Not super familiar with stators, but I know they can help with top/low end power depending on how it’s setup. My brothers bike has literally anything you can think of in terms of aftermarket performance. Got it for an absolute steal too. The previous owner babied it and made it a show piece. He changed the oil after every ride.
@@Nick-Edwards it sounds like a clean bike. the best thing I ever did was to install the bigbore 540 kit with bigger carb. Combined with other bolt on's, It actually made it easier to ride. Linear power band with more power. It was deceptively fast. Especially noticeable when racing other stock cr and kx500's. It would just walk away.
You’re supposed to switch lanes. 500s lane appeared to have more traction and drive strait, left lane looked squirrely.
Enjoyed that little drag race i recon a test on an MX track with the megla and yzilla would be super cool keep them 2 stroke vids coming guys.
Glad you enjoyed it. We will keep them coming for you :)
KTM 250 was close enough to the 500 I must say I'm quite surprised and really questioning the value of so much raw power on the dirt. Power's great, but if you can't connect it to the ground you're wasting it and just spinning your wheel.
he is also the one who manages it
Thats why the cr500 was detuned in 86.
And you just explained exactly why modern race 4 strokes dominated the race scene. Linear power delivery equals traction.
Both those 2 strokes lay down considerably higher peak torque numbers than the 450 4 stroke. But only in a small window. Wich makes traction a struggle on a good day. Given traction the 2 strokes would drag both those 4 strokes. BUT!! Add another 100ft or so to the track and the 450 would walk them all. Just turning higher rpm and power approaching redline. I've owned 2 cr 500 stock and built. Monster torque . No traction.. no over Rev or high rpm power. Even with the yz power valve no way it turns the rpms the 450 does and deffinetly not the 250...
Love that video. What a laugh. Nothing like drag racing. Keep the videos coming. Love the channel
Very informative. I checked out the Maico site since watching your video. I didn't even know they existed and lovely to see people making them and the megalodon build and YZ. Awesome
Only things missing are two proper 500’s! I’ll like to see how it’s performers again both kx with its power valve and cr.
Thanks for watching Simon, Stay tuned as we have that video coming very soon :)
Yup why I love the kx500 that powervalve makes the bottom end shine
As much as I'd like to see a newer version of the bike I'd like to see how the original would handle the newer bikes. My money will still be on the old skool Godzilla and the kx mayhem monster
Just for shixs and grins, run a few passes on the blacktop!
@999lazer thanks for being so receptive and actually responding to alot of comments. I really appreciate that. It's great to see you taking others ideas and actually responding and confirming that you will make video's based on other people's ideas. Thanks man! Cheers Max!
No problem, I always try and respond where I Can. Thanks for watching.
After watch this video. It looks clear to me the CR500 would still hold the crown..
The YZ500 didn't impress me.
Mate at half the price and a better bike all round I would take the KX 450 over the YZ 500
Kawi's have shit durability . Yamaha makes the best most reliable bikes on the planet , always have.
Sounds like you want a race herb ? My KX against your Yamaha. Hahaha . where I ride it's to ruff at the moment (to much rain) to even ride fast let alone ride flat out
More power on a slippery surface doesn't always mean more speed. Love the bikes made on this channel. Just awesomeness!
Top end
The kx500 has a reputation of being the best 2-stroke motor In its day. Why not make it more interesting and put one in the mix.
We have a test with a CR500 and KX 500 coming soon :)
@@999lazer Awesome, if it's another drag race, I hope the Meg and yzilla are included too🙂
I guess the yzilla! The way it gets the power to the ground is just so good!
After watching the amazing 700 Megladon build then test videos it was just awesome to see it trounce the triple 1/4 mile.For looks my fave is the Yzilla gold rims and YZM colours.Great Work,brilliant videos Max and team.
I pick Y-Zilla. My dad had a friend who rode with us who had a YZed-490 back in the 8's. It was insanely fast!!
Thanks for watching :)
Smoking, 2 stroking
world beating, 4 stroke defeating
Mixing gas and whooping ass
King of the ring YZilla.
Great job guys, I'd love to see MX track comparison
Thanks for the awesome comment :)
450 is clearly faster than the 500
And in my humble opinion, Nev Bradshaw said that the YZilla is the best bike he has ever ridden... Fact or not, that holds weight.
It really comes down to getting the power to the ground the tires and the rider weight, gearing. The IRC M5B would move heaven and earth in that soil!
Its all about tire ! Look how close that exc250f got. They all need to be running the same rear tire
@martin barr's CRF450 To be fair I could tell that if the kx450 had a better launch it would've eaten the 500. I don't think that thing needs any modifications but rather just a better start.
Awesome video yet again, well done Max.
Shame nobody had an old 490 Maico there, I am sure my old 1983 Maico was way faster off the line and got the power down better than the 93 cr500 I had years later, but maybe that's just an old mans dodgy memory lol.
We have some good friends with a Maico 490 mega 2 so we will try and make that happen for you :)
@@999lazer Fantastic, I'd love to see that. Many thanks.
@@999lazer This would be super cool 😎
Awesome video as usual bro! Love to see the YZILLA vs the classic 500s
Thanks, you'll see that line up pretty soon :)
What he says!⬆⬆🙏
I have 2 500 cc bikes, a cr500af a a rmzilla 500, both are 2 stroke, love my big bore 2 stroke
Great video! Thanks to all you guys!! Great Ambassadors to the Sport 🎩🎩🎩
Thanks Lee, appreciate your comment :)
Kx450
YZ500 was impressive as hell .
It's such an awesome bike and so easy to ride for a 500. Thanks for watching
Few more starts with 450 would be even more impressive compared to more powerful 2t:s, could not win though...
I was expecting Meg to start in 3rd from the start- you got all that torque, ride the wave and grab gears with the flow..
You’re right, they need to change the gearing with the sprockets
That was awesome thank you for that
Thanks Jay, Glad you enjoyed it.
Ask Alan if he gets his grey hair dye from the same place as me lol.
Hi there Joyce'y
:) We'll let him answer that lol
It's not from a bottle lol
The CR 500 beat the 700 Meglodon already! That makes the CR the king! Great fun video Max!!!!
No it never 🤦♂️
@@snkneo-geo933 lol
The zillas the king of the ding ding ding 🏆
How? The Megladon beat it easily once he started taking off in 3rd gear.
The 450 would have won if the field was a bit longer!
@@snkneo-geo933 Just gear the 500 a little higher where it can have a higher top speed and the 450 still doesn't have chance even if the track is longer.
@@NC-1861 The 2 stroke will blow up eventually because the engine revs so high where as the 4 stroke won't it will keep going 👍
@@snkneo-geo933 Both of them will eventually blow up if you hold them at wide open throttle long enough lol. And on top of that, the 4 stroke revs higher than the two stroke. Well, in racing applications anyway. I'm not sure about GNCC or trail bikes and stuff.
How about the new “small bore” 23 KTM 300 SX
2 такта это моя слабость. Просто это для меня сказка💪 всем удачи парни✌
Love it! Kaplan America had the maico 700 but they had to rejet it and dial it in and it became a beast. Hint Hint lol
Why didn't you switch Lanes ?
Great races guys but to keep it more even for traction like the shootouts do, setup all the bikes with the same tire and all new. Some of the tires looked a bit worn and the yz500 and the 700 had fresh tires on them. Great racing that grass and mud was pretty sweet.
Brilliant series
Thank you
Great video Max, need to see the Yzilla up against big red soon 👍
I can’t get enough of those big bore 2 strokers they look like they would be fun to ride
Thanks for watching James
Great video Max, looks like you guys had a blast launching those bikes, the Meg looks a beast to ride and tame, my favorite would be the yzilla,. keep you're top quality videos rolling Max.
Thanks Kevin, it was an awesome day. The YZM us definitely easier to ride than the Meg and would be first choice for a race , but not everyone wants easy right :)
I really enjoyed the video. Would be really cool if you mixed up the riders on each of the bikes and did a shit ton more drag races. 👍
thanks for watching , we'll do some more for sure :)
It was a serious drag race If it meant anything, they wouldn't be doing wheelies down the main stray what a farce and EV would beat it
Great comparison of different engines. It's just a shame that the 300 two stroke KTM wasn't part of the line up. I think the 300 would have done better than the 450 four stroke.
Nah 450 was the fastest bike here
@@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 um no? it lost.
@@steve-o6115 it let off at the end its easy to hear
@@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 an the 450 caught up to the 500 .
That WAS BAD ASS !
Thanks Eric
You need to drag race up a steep hill, then you will see the difference in power!
we need to do that for sure, Thanks for watching
hell of a video max aint nothin like the ringa ding ding of a 2 smoker
Thanks Jon. Glad you liked it :)
Dirt bike drag racing needs to be a thing.... fun.
I'd like to see this test done with an old school YZ 490
Given how close that 250F was, I think any 500 has a shot at a win. The YZ490 is no joke, though. In a 1983 test it absolutely dominated in the timed drag race, against big contenders like the CR480, first KX500, Husky 500CR, and the Maico 490 Spider (which is what the Megalodon engine is based on). The YZ looked so-so on the dyno, but on the dirt, GEARING is a huge huge deal in getting good starts and putting power on the ground. The YZ490 was just sorted. Today, especially if you do the head mods for detonation on modern gas, they'll make anyone's CR500 sit up and pay attention.
@@JETZcorp Yeah I've got a garage full old Yamahas I've got a couple of 490s and you're correct if you sort out the shortcomings that they left a factory with they will absolutely rip
ha ha very good nice to see the 2 bangers triumph, 2 strokes forever!
Thanks for watching Arthur
" strokes all the way Max . Love it ..................
It's got t be the YZILLA for me.
It's just a great looking bike,especially in the retro colours. 😉👍
The YZilla is an unbelievable bike to ride. So much torque and no vibrations. For sure its the pick if you want to go racing a big bore 2 stroke :)
I don't think this was a race on how fast the bikes are rather , a race of tyre choices throttle skills and traction , also you can only go as fast as the bike doesn't flip. But these are awesome Bruts and I like them. But there again I think if this done on tarmac and road tyres it would it would be a scary proposition
I thought the 500 4 would have done a lot better, it didn't get a very good start though.
Great vid, love watching 👍
The 250 4 did better against the yzilla than the 500 4 lol
500 4 stroke is detuned, if it were built the same way as the 450’s it would destroy both these 2 strokes
Yo I work in powersports and ride these all-all the time. That 500 isn’t that fast off a dig, the gearing is a lot more even power and longer 3-4-5 gears. No bs if they raced that kx450 vs the 500exc Id bet the Kx would cross that finish line first, however the 500 would probably have more top end power in the later gears, i dont think it would utilize it in a Mx drag race. I think their track is ass tho, it’s not as legit as racing all of these on real dirt, not wet torn up grass, this test was more of a fun race than it was any bit learning, the 250 had the best performance, and I personally think they let off on the 450vs500 2stroke race, I think the 450 would’ve beaten it- it was getting to that top end and very quickly gaining
To be fair ALL BIKES should have the same NEW rear rubber, just sayin. Nice video.
Awesome racing however it was a lot closer than I thought it would be and the KX450 four stroke is pretty impressive for what they are even though I'm a lifelong fan of two strokes
It was a fun day. Thanks for watching
@@999lazer For sure buddy awesome content
Those kx 4chokes would have room in my stable any day of the week and twice on any day ending in "y"
you guys should race the 700 vs 500 vs450vs250vs250 2 stroke vs 125 2 stroke
This was really informative for me, thank you! My 450crf from 2005, is good as any modern or custom dirt bike to day.
The 3rd gear start was what the Megladon needed, I dare say both the 500 & 700 would improve times this way.
Put it up against a cr 500 air-cooled I wonder how it would do. Maybe port match the air cooled and a pipe with a good carb.
Enjoyed that 👍👍
Thanks Mark
Tyre was nearly bald on the kxf450 🤣
Watch the video again. You see the KX catch up and start to pass, then you see it quickly drop back 8 feet just before the finish line. In the Finish line Camera view, you hear the KX's RPM drop just before the finish line. The KX had it.
@@wutupclegg6618 yeah saw that , the guy on the kx backed off way before the finish lol
No it wasn't , nice excuse though.
@@wutupclegg6618 That was the KX dying due to it's terrible reliability issues .
@@herbcanter2114 look at the video of it rolling off near the start you can see the nobbles where round nearly no edge to them at all
Ok so now we need to do cr500 vs yzilla 500
its coming soon....
id like to see yzilla vs meg on tarmac super moto wheels
Mad vid 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching Loyd
I fkin love this channel!
We need more Glenn !🍻
So the 250f nearly ties with it but the 500 4t is left behind doesn’t seem right there?
Yeah this is bullshit in drag race like this 450 are the most capable I rode 450f and in drag race I beat 501 fe 350sxf and cr 500
This just shows how good the 450f motocross bikes are when it takes a 2 stroke that's 250cc bigger to win a drag race. That yz500 was not blowing the kx450 away even though it had a 50cc advantage. Also the ktm was a trail bike, so not a fair comparison to the yz500.
I want to see a maico 700 I feel like there isn’t a lot of good videos on them comparing them to other bikes
We built our own 700, you don't often see video of them on a track, but here is a link to Bradshaw riding ours :) th-cam.com/video/ynt8xkRxdAI/w-d-xo.html
What gear were you starting with? When I raced a YZ465, starts in 2nd were much faster.
2nd gear on the YZilla, but will try 3rd next time like Sean did on on the Meg
Obrigada meu amigo , eu pedi essa corrida da yz e a Maico, muito obrigado.
It seems like the YZ500 is just the sweetspot.... I might order a kit or 2. Seems fun =)
its an amazing bike for sure. Thanks for watching
The right position has the least ruts at start.
Yeahh Max
you should do drags with 500 vs 700 vs the 4 cylinder ktm you build!
we can, but that has 150 bhp so nothing will get near it :)
@@999lazer nothing will get near it on the long run , but on a short drag im sure the yz500 will give it a run for it money
Absolutely awesome max 🤙🏻
Thanks Luke
Convincing, proper sprocket change and the 4 stroke would make it a race, Thanks for the entertainment 👍
Yzilla 😍🇧🇷top!
Great vid guys. Did you try a 3rd gear start on the y zilla ?
Always started in 3rd on my 86 cr back in the day.
That’s the only way to get a good start on a 500.
Crazy good vid boys
It seems like the rider on the left has a slightly deeper and muddier start to deal with than the right side. 3rd gear start was impressive! Cool video thank you for sharing.
I can’t get enough of those big bore strikers they look like they would be fun to ride
All killer bikes! I have owned, and still own, big bores for over 20 years. Something threw me off though. While racing the KX450, you see the KX catching up and is side by side with the YZilla near the end. Then you see the KX finish a bike length away. How did it drop 10 feet in less 1 second? From the YZillas camera view, you see the KX's front tire show up, in the bottom corner of the screen, then quickly fade back out just before the finish line. From the Finish Line camera view, you actually hear the KX RPM's drop just before the finish line. Sorry, but the evidence shows that this might be a rigged race to promote the YZilla.
Ya the kx lifted for sure but if it was rigged he could have just stayed the same distance behind with throttle control so not sure what happened there
The left lane is also clearly more slippery that or the 4 strokes were running on shit tires
Truth is the 450 would destroy everything here
@@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 You are commenting on everything. talking about 4 stroke better this and 2 stroke sh*t that. Dude chill, its not that serious.
250four stroke with under half the power did not really fall behind, very impressive!!
id say the limiting factor for all the bikes was the ground conditions, i bet even a 125 2 stroke would be pretty close
I would like to have seen a drag race between a stock yz250 as well.
We'll try and make that happen for you Kev.
11:12 WTF 😂 wow insanely fast - 3rd gear start is the way to go it seems lol
Can you get the brc off the line in 3rd???
That was a fun video👏👏👏👍
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching:)
The YZilla is the one that stole my heart my favorite definitely, but the Megladon is king of the beast!! Just awesome
Thanks for watching Sean
The Megladon is an utter animal 😂
it's a beast for sure. Thanks for watching:)
Would love to see a rematch on pavement
Awesome watch again.
yzm 500
Never did grasp the 1st gear on a big bore smoker. Needs a taller top anyway. 💪🔥💯🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yzilla,, that's a bad mamajama
Need to do a dry circuit drag on the bikes for apples comparison
put an 140 IRC M5B on Megalodon, and everybody else is done !!!!
Should do a smart carb or efi on that yz500
Had to say the rear tire of the 500exc was done,think a new tire made a huge difference
Same as the kxf
Megladon 4 th gear start??????👍
Bikes are all pretty close. One variable that is probably dictating the outcome is rider ability.