Reverb from a Blackhole.. // Worth it instead of the "Space" pedal??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- Eventide Sent over the Blackhole Pedal to try out. Naturally grabbed my Octatrack to live loop and do some mixing stuff and send Synthesizer samples through the guitar pedal! Wow for a "simple" pedal, it sure has some flexibility. Once you get used to the knob per function of this pedal its so easy to create your own presets and just have fun shaping sounds and adding reverb to almost anything!
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You're my absolute fave. No hype. Just pure, nerdy, music-tech joy.
I second that :)
Changing my world with predelay tricks!
Wholeheartedly agree
ahah man , nothing to add! Words!
True story, Ricky is the shit. No bullshit, just a dope gear nerd like the rest of us.
"Black Hole" reverb algorithm is my go to on Eventide Space. So this is smart!
18:24 Honestly it's the only reaction one can have when hearing this FIREE
Listening to this via Bluetooth while I was prepping something to eat.. sometime shortly after the 18 min mark I stopped what I was doing and walked over to my laptop with a grin on my face thinking "Hot damn!" Then, at the exact moment when I look at the screen, I see Ricky look up at the camera with a similar grin on his face, saying: "Duuude..!" Absolutely made my day!
Thanks for all the quality content, I really enjoy it and I've learned a whole lot from your channel! Cheers!
Those are my favorite Ricky moments! I love when the pure joy when he hits on something cool. Thank you, Ricky, for sharing that with us.
I live for the jams at the end, love them sfm
Go back to 19:17 - consider integrating this clip into your video intro! (jk, your intro is boss).
Really been enjoying your stuff these past few months. Thanks for keeping it fresh.
I have the Space...bought it when it came out and will never sell it. Pricey, but recommended for anything and everything..
Got the Strymon BlueSky but this sounds great!
BTW I can totally goof on those Elektron clicky button sounds!
Those buttons are my favourite feeling buttons of all my gear.🙂
That thing about 17 minutes in sounded like breathing. Love it.
Sounds nice. But I’m so glad I do most of my work via iPad because Eventide’s apps top out at £15. Tbh I’ve not yet paid that much for a hardware synth (but only cos the Dreadbox Typhon is out of stock ‘til October...)
Don't get the value proposition here. Why pay $279 for one algo? A used Space is ~$400, a new Ventris Dual Reverb is $400, and BlueSky is $300
I suspect the Blackhole is a most of the reason people use the Space (or the H9) so from that perspective it's value. It definitely feels like you're buying a specific algorithm (and the Gravity knob) more than flexibility or other factors.
and the new strymon night sky is only $429!
I think the trend recently is people are paying more for simple gear. The consumer market for pro audio equipment has blown up, and now the average consumer doesn't want to take the time to read manuals or menu dive anymore. They want a few knobs that do cool shit (I can't blame them. it's super fun). Capable gear with more features has been flying under the radar in the past few years. For example, there are tons of awesome workstation synths from the 90's and 00's for dirt cheap on the used market, but people avoid them like the plague because they're huge and complex, and often labeled as "keyboards".
@@Carlo24515 ayyye mind telling me what some of those cheap synth workstations are? :) :) :)
Plus tax 💀
No. Blackhole is just one of 12 different core algorytms of Eventide Space, you can find it in H9 as well, both of which are just short of double the price for the black hole.
At the time of writing, BH was £250, ES was £400 and H9 Max was £600. Value depends on how much of everything else you will use. If all you want is the Blackhole effect, spending more than you need to is pointless. Might as well get the one thing that does what you want, and does it well. The H9 Max is really there for people who can't make their mind up, think they need everything, but rarely use more than 10% of its capability. In that case, a total waste of money. For me, the ES is a decent middle ground because its in the same family, has more controls, and a display so you don't get as lost easily.
@@X22GJP I use Space, as I find H overwhelming as you mentioned. Eventide algorytms are industry strandard for me, honestly. I use Space both as a pedal but more often as fx unit with drykill on. I do have really nice Brikasti reverb but I still go for Eventide for some algos. Black Hole only though - I dont think it warrants full on pedal, but thats just my opinion. You can find space for 400 used, they are built like a brick. I love Strymon reverbs too, Chase as well, but ES is spot on bang for the buck.
man, those synth stabs reminded me how much I enjoyed Barker's Utility, great stuff
I hope the next version of the octatrack has 8in/out 🙏.. cool sound on the black hole. Thanks for all you do!
And better fx..
Dream come true
Dope! I got a used Space Pedal a while back, its super dope!
Man all of your sounds sounded so pristine, das crazy
Haha! I thought your monitor in the background was your window (as the blind continues above it). I was like WTAF is going on outside Ricky's wndow?!! I want me some of those psychedelic northern lights!!!
After I saw this video I had to buy a blackhole pedal. Ok I have two h9 max but your video was awsome and I had to.
"Amateur hours" or how I call them: "hours".
Dude! Incredible! Fantastic review and made more amazing by a sweet track
Thank you Ricky
Amazing video... I'll definitely buy this one
Bruh you cant demo this pedal in mono… :/
Bro the tunes in this video are killer
To heck with the pedal, that first track @2.32 was dooope. More, more.
you know you can hard to found a reverb pedal with stereo in, a best friend for guys working with hard gears.
That reverb is something... It has a dark character yet having its own unique feel, thank you for this video!
Great vibe, and excellent analysis
SPACE pedal has 12 different reverb algorithms, of which Blackhole (found here) is only one.
And it's the one I find myself going to 99% of the time.
I am an oldie with synths but a newby on pedals. I wish I saw this video 24 hours ago. Just ordered an EHX Superego Plus - which is big on Freeze, but only Mono. Would have preferred stereo. BUT. I just discovered the whole lot is available as Windows plug-ins. Hmmm. Plug-in bundle currently on sale, for cheaper than the pedal. Got to try out the demo right now.
amazing review, loved the sampling parts. How does the blackhole pedal compares to the blackhole vst?
Any recommendations for VST- reverbs ?
18:10 you stumbled upon a hidden Lyra-8 mode. Totally sounds like the weird interaction between its LFOs and delays.
Hi, I'm Sidetracked Ricky! Welcome to my channel! /jk love when you get carried away
hahahah thanks! i need to snap out of it sometimes
I dunno. I'm not feeling it. I'm not even convinced by the algorithm on the plugin so I guess it's not for me. Value proposition seems iffy unless you're a guitar player or you have a strong need for it when playing live.
He needed to use a synth sound like a lead, pad, etc on it. Drums and basses don't do it justice.
As a plugin it's great, I typically add reverb later so you can dial it in. Also being able to draw in automation is huge which you can't really do with the pedal aside from an expression pedal...oh wait it does have midi so nevermind, this thing is totally worth it.
The question: Zoia vs Blackhole... I loved the video... Very informative and inspirational
Ricky, I'd love to see a video just on your favorite effects pedals to use with the Octatrack in this way. I've seen you use the Ottobit and Zoia. Any others?
Love that deep house!!!!!❤️
"Pool party. . .I wish." You and me both.
Kind of pointless to me as a Space owner. The one thing I'm curious about, is if it's running on an ARM core internally like the H9000.. in which case it'd be a "ported" version of the algorithm rather than the original DSP version (although from what I hear they've done a great job of porting these between different types of hardware as far as H8000 vs H9000 goes)
Such an amazing presentation, a joy to follow you!
Ricky, do you use a pedalboard? If you do can you show us what you like to use?
That is sick
I find I share your videos the most RT! Love how u get lost in the music sometimes it’s so fun to watch. However one thing; I know you feel weird about making tracks and rhythm videos because u work for Novation but you are my favorite Novation product tutorial person so could u please not be weird about it cuz I get my rhythm tomorrow!!! Please!!!!! 🙏🏼
Dang it Ricky, you've gone and sold me on another one. You single handedly sold me the Zen Delay. Now this one. Great video as usual.
haha Sorry Scott! I owe you a coke at the least now!
The digital version goes -10 to 0 to 120 on size, -10 to 0 is really cool for some weird effects (especially on drums), does this do that too?
Finished off spicy
I’m curious how this compares to the Meris Mercury 7?
Seems warmer to me.
Mercury is harsher it seems
The Mercury7 is damn good and I prefer it to the space but the ventris is king imo. They're all great tbh
@@VincentsVideoVisions Haha that's so weird cause I have the Mercury and the Ventris and I think the Mercury is better, but it just goes to show that no piece of gear is objectively better, its really just about what you like.
@@jojojiles Nice! How would you describe the pros and cons of each of them?
Hi Ricky! Thank you for another great video! But just to make it clear, the algorithm in this box is the same as the Blackhole in my H9 Max?
That jam tho 🔥🔥🔥
The Ventris is still killing the reverb game right now IMHO
I have the Eventide Space but really want a second reverb pedal. I like the ventris, mercury 7, Big sky & night sky. Of those 4 what would compliment the Space verb the most?
@@shawnsaul7759 for straight up reverb quality, ventris. The night sky looks cool but is almost more of a synth than a reverb.
What's the white tabletop synth in your background - it's sitting on top of your red nord piano.
I need first track so badly
Sick outro btw !
Just came back to this video after deciding I need a reverb pedal to pair with my OT and Swarm (yeah, I know... spring reverb into digital reverb?? = yes, sue me). Wanted to ask as the online manual doesn't state, what does the modulation actually modulate??
Great video Ricky, love the positive vibes you bring to everything, keep it up!
Those headphones are sick, what are those?.
Damn no intro, just right into the bumper
That track is sounding good bruh.
Would love to see your take on the new Strymon Nightsky. :-)
Can you review the Lyra 8? The synth seems amazing and I think you would go wild on that one
I don't know what vid to comment on but help a brotha out. I currently do not own any DAWless hardware (do own 4 Akai Fire and an MPK mini) and am ready for my first. Looking at the Volca series but don't want to end up buying them all when I could have just bought something else that had more features built into fewer pieces or even one piece... I'm sure you know where I'm going with this Enrique. I can't justify an MPC (yet). Grooveboxes? Tr-8s? Digitakt? Pocket Operators? Volcas? Where do we start?!
Digitakt or Model Samples is a fantastic way to start.
Can we talk about those sexy patch cables?
The Blackhole pedal is very cool BUT there is one major difference between IT and the SPACE...stereo outs AND ins. I picked up the SPACE to use as a poor man's H9000 (can't really afford $7000 for an H9000)...it can be used for insert effects through a mixing board and helps me greatly in my studio for recording ambient "space" music.
you can also use the black hole pedal in stereo with an insert cable and put the switch on the back to "stereo"
3 minutes in and nodding away!
if anyone wants a pedal go and get yourself the h9 max. the best peadal in the universe imo
Hey good video, and device, but I wondering why you don’t like the OT’s midi tracks?
this and the el capistan, and that's all I need...... then the strymon dark sky came out. Dang it!
Big ups for the mid-vid sample. That was a hella cool vibe you got.
your stu looks like an amazing playground + your jams/vibes are soo tight
I I've used the Blackhole VST exclusively, but have since went to just a hardware setup (for many reasons), so this is going to be a welcome addition to the setup. Thanks for a great review Ricky. This video sealed the deal :)
Nope - its not the same algorhythm as the plugin. You can NOT get the beautiful sound of the plugin with the pedal 😞 Eventide confirmed that after I got my pedal, was heavily disappointed and wrote them, Really bad marketing using the same name for this pedal.
I'm curious. Does it power up active if powered down active?
.. or does it always need 1 stomp to activate?
Cool review:) i've some doubts about how to connect in stereo from a modular synth. In my case there are two scenarios:
1) Do I leave the modular with mono minijack, enter the blackhole with stereo Jack? (what kind of cable should I get?)
2) I go out with two (2 mono minijacks) from Strymon Magneto and go towards the blackhole, I will need a stereo jack cable and on the other side two mono minijacks. Thanks
you'd want to get a stereo input/output module like 4ms Listen IO or ALM S.B.G.to get the eurorack signals down to a good level for the pedal
What's your headphone brand/model? Any recommendation for good studio headphones? Thank you!
The beat hit me so hard in the face I need to ask for my tooth back. 📬
Pretty cool but pretty limited. Thinking I'd rather spend another 150 and get a Night Sky...
Will it record the mouse that it makes as you make adjustments? I personally like some of the sounds that are made while making adjustments at it would be nice to catch/sample some ..Thanks for the video..
was interested in learning more about this reverb but suffering the chintzy howse music was a bit much...like playing vintage video games
If you have to compare that eventide blackhole reverb with Source Audio Ventris Dual Reverb Pedal. Which one do you think sound better or have more options for you?
There's really no comparison as the Blackhole is limited to the algorithm of the same name, while the Ventris is comparable to a Space
was going to say this, if you have a Ventris budget, look at the Space, it's Blackhole + 11 other reverb algorithms
speaking of pedals, did you sell your zoia? Ain't seen it for a while bro
I’m also wondering if he still got a Oto Machines Boum?
I still have the Zoia! I've fallen into a weird mindset where i make synth sounds with it like a mini modular more than i use it as a pedal haha!
@@LukezyM That i still have as well :) Always adding a little sauce to the mix.
@Ricky Tinez Great, please include it in a video if possible, it would be cool to see it in use.
I made a Video with the Blackhole + Poly D 🤤 You just can't stop playing Sounds thru that Black lil Thing aight? #blackholeaddict
Great Review, Smooth Camera, ASMR Voice 🤣👍
I love me some Octatrack... but... it always changes the sound routed through it so the set up here is not a 'clean' playback of the blackhole.
Course that subtle sound difference might not show up at all on TH-cam file compression
hellah fresh beat
Is it possible to adjust individual cue volumes for each of the 8 tracks? I cant tell if thats what you’re doing in the video
He's only switching them on and off. But you can actually control the cue send levels for every track in studio mode. Look it up, one of my fav features on the OT!
What headphones he use?
how much do spend on gear and how much do make in music and youtube revenue
That’s none of your business.
mono !?
how to you send reverb to certain tracks but not others
You can use the Cue outputs as an FX send, so the Cue level of each track becomes the send amount.
Where can I find these drum samples?
G.O.A.T.
Man, too many good reverbs coming out and not enough funds...
One more TH-cam demonstration of a reverb pedal in mono. Didn't expect you'd be one of them Ricky. **sigh**
what headphones are those? they look pretty cool!
You can pick those up from Rosson Audio for only $2600.00.
@Brian Brill What a steal!
It sounds good, but I guess I don't completely understand the point of this pedal when you could prob pick up a mint Space 2nd hand or b-stock for $350-400 if you are a bit patient, which is only around 100 dollars more for waaaaay more sounds and options. If it was a smaller footprint pedal, I could kinda get with it, but the enclosure isn't even that much smaller than the Space. Seems sorta like a marketing ploy tbh, but maybe I'm missing something. Does this pedal do anything or have any features the Space doesn't?
Ricky do I buy a deepmind 12 or a juno 106 help ❤️
Dm12
100% deepmind 12
@@RodENorth ty sir
@@VincentsVideoVisions amen brother
@@DroppedandSkrewed the dm12 is less expensive, easier to find, more polyphony, nice effects, and can sound just as good. Juno's are nice but extremely overpriced
I like to pretend you are my friend showing me cool shit
STRYMON NIGHT SKY STRYMON NIGHT SKY STRYMON NIGHT SKY
this is cool but I will once again be handing my hard earned money over to walter white
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Thanks Ricky for always sharing the great stuff. I uploaded a new music video last night #hOrnPlaYErzensmoothie
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I always love your videos, but just not feeling the sound of the algorithm. I think I might be a bit of a reverb snob though.
Love Eventide products but that mini-USB...smh. Where's USB C? lol.
Blackhole is to Space as BlueSky is to BigSky.
I still don't really understand why you need this pedal instead of saving ~$100 and getting the plugin
You can't put a plug-in on a pedalboard.
a $400 pedal is cheaper that a $1500 new computer to run my plugins on 🤤