those greenbacks are still the gold standard. I have one green back in a .5 watt Dark Gene by Kowalski and its the classic crunchy chime sound, no pedals.
Astonishing ya'll didn't think to try a different cab or two. Would have been nice to see how much of a difference a v30 sounds to the greenback either in same cab or separate. Except for the mic, preamp and converter when recording, speaker is last in line in our signal chains before ears folks. You can think of it as operating as a massive final filter/EQ (but it's not that simple) and has much more impact on our tone than swapping amp, especially amps of the same type. I'm no expert, but focusing on the amp is a super amateur move and ironic considering the video title. Still love ya'll and appreciate the efforts.
Were the mics in the same position? Or were you hearing the differnces in mic position? I couldn't see an image of the setup in the vid, unless I blinked.
I guess they don't understand just how much of the experience of being a studio guitarist is making sure you mesh with the space, understanding how you're perceived, etc. - maybe?
The effects and tone will change the way you play. Tim just plugged in to whatever settings were dialed in and he played to them. He's more of a vessel to accentuate the equipment. Not the other way around
@@stoogel I recently pulled out an old solid state Crate G600 100w head I bought in 1983 or so. Cleaned up pots etc. , plugged in and literally played it for two hours non stop. Played through a Marshall 1960 ,tone on this head is incredible and easily rivals my Marshall tube head. I pulled it out to give to a neighbor’s kid but no way am I giving up this head. No way am I saying solid state is better than tubes but this head has mojo. Maybe like wine it got better sitting in my dads basement for 40 years untouched.
I would say they are trying to demonstrate how to use an amp regardless of what it is….in my opinion lot of beginners just start hoarding pedals thinking that’s where tone comes from…..so I believe this video is saying start with your amp and tell where the raw is first and then build from there….
Or... you can Have a Quad Cortex or headbrush or Kemper or Ampero or HX or Axis etc and have all those amps and dial in for the tone you want with good IRs and let all those heavy expensive collector amps die. Rock is dying anyway, nobody will play guitar in the future. Nothing matters anymore
@@Renato_Cara More people play guitar now than a decade ago. It's in a ton of pop music, especially the soul and jazz styles. Shoegaze is cool again, some artists are ripping off pop punk from 20 years ago and charting, metal has a strong fanbase... There's an audience for everything these days.
I love how Rick, a phenomenal guitarist himself, just gives Tim the space and spotlight while Rick kind of acts like the cheering section. What a gracious host! Best stuff on YT!
Rick's a terrific player, but I've never thought of him as a guitar tone guru. If the subject of the video is tone I'd expect to Tim to be the guy in the spotlight. If the subject was jazz vocabulary, say, probably a different story.
Rick is comfortable in his own skin, meaning he is secure with himself and his past accomplishments and doesn’t have to show off insecurities like we all did constantly calling mom to watch us make a new chord. 😂
Nice to hear the amp comparisons. The orange 1979 amp you have is one of the last of the Bexleyheath made amps with my circuit before that factory closed down and I went off to the world of live touring. Very happy memories of that time at Orange 50 years ago. J J
Can we talk about the well rounded content on this channel? Artist interviews song breakdown, industry peeks behind the curtain gear stuff and just awesome playing.
Yes. We should talk about why Rick Beato has not some of his better received videos in recent times. His content this year has largely been "interviews" and "rant" type videos. I miss the old diversity of videos, but if I all the sudden had Rick's current level of access to top tier musicians, I would definitely put up a lot of interviews as well. 😊
I just shared this with my brother who's a touring performer and said the same thing 'Our two favorite guys' So awesome that Tim and Rick made this fantastic and informative video together!
I really want to see a version of this where all these guys blind test different mics, amps, guitars without knowing the make, model, whether it's vintage or not. I'm genuinely curious to know how much of these preferences are influenced by the brand and status of certain equipment.
They have a preference for like "vintage" stuff for sure. Let's not ignore that these guys are old heads and swear by "the classics" because that's just something they know they can rely on. But I don't think they're closed to anything that gives a good sound, just biased. - It's like car-guys of a certain generation, who will definitely hold a lot of vintage cars far above anything newer or stuff that wasn't around when they got to know cars. - It's just the same in every branch and every generation. And the cycle goes faster and faster as well. I already see kids these days talk like something from a year or two ago was something "old" from "back in the day" and "it used to be better then", even though for me something from 5 years ago is still relatively new. Probably because their hyperactive brains go a lot faster now, even though I have ADHD and drink coffee, which you can probably tell by my comment... ...What was I getting at?... Anyway... *walks off into the jungle*
I'm 15 and my life just got that much better shows how awesome Rick is thanks For helping me. I started playing guitar a month ago and I bought an electric two weeks ago I learned master of puppets and paranoid and enter sandman 😊thank you Rick for helping me learn guitar
Listening to the old school guys will take you far by laying a foundation to cut your own path. You are clearly on the right track out of the blocks. Sweet. Have fun in arpeggio land - it is a sweet, sweet place to be and will remain a lifelong joy.
This for me is peak Rick Beato - his love of music really shines through and, much like the when he starts waxing poetic about why the shift from diatonic to mixolydian modes in a song was PURE GENIUS, even if I don't understand the nuances I'm inspired by his passion. Still here, after nearly a decade.
Best advice i can give is that raspy, harsh tones often sound much better in a mix. Our ideas about good tone often exist in a vacuum. And you gotta crank those big amps. Non negotiable
The compact 421 makes sense for Toms, not only for size but it’s common to add a little top to the Tom close mics so they should be close to what you want straight off.
Agree, that Park amp was the best of the pack to my ears. The Sovtek was also kind of kool. Same with the Fender combo. I guess I am not really a Marshall fan.
This is great having someone with Tim's musical knowledge and vocabulary just noodling around with a bunch of different amps and effects. It helps me understand what affect these different things have on creating a guitar sound and what guitarists mean when they use certain words to describe a particular tone.
I love how we never know what kind of video Rick is going to make other than it being related to making music. Love the channel and always look forward to Rick's uploads.
Its about knowing how to dial good tone with different options of equipment and without relying solely on a massive quantity of effects. Just a guitar and amp making a great sound first, then some effects to add a little spice
It's nice to be around someone who is so talented, yet so humble and kind--and that goes for BOTH of you! This was very entertaining, Rick. My thanks to you both!
Best guitar playing and sounding I hadn't heard in a while. Rick you should go 60fps on the videos, it's so much more full of life at this framerate, you can really enjoy the finger work of all those great guitar players.
Rick Beato's channel is nothing but a BLESSING to all of us. Where a few great people share their passion like this I feel like I'm getting a gift I dreamt of since my childhood and get it as an adult.
Your engineer helped expand my TONE vocabulary with the term “FIZZ” which I’ve never heard used before this post. But then, all this stuff is totally new to me as a picker. I’ve only been trying to play guitar since a pre-teen & just turned 71 this year! ☮️
Awesome musicians and teachers here. I like what Tim is saying about following the sound. Break free from playing the guitar and focus on playing the sound. The sound will guide you to what to play and how to play it.
@@RickWibel This is true. The fun of trying out or buying a new pedal for me is I know I’m extremely likely to get ideas out of playing it that I wouldn’t have otherwise.
You know some videos just make your heart sing and your smile widen. This is indeed one of those. The varied tones and sounds are just amazing. Thank you gents for putting this one out.
I got goosebumbs when that park amp hit with delay.. i mean a straigth connection to cosmos. Huge thanks to Tim for tips. Youngters take notes. THESE men are pro’s ! Two orginal humble men who have so much to share with us.
This basically makes me want to leave Neural DSP behind and go back to a wall of tube amps. Such a great experience in the studio to do this and craft your tone organically. The best sounds I have ever acheived have happened this way.
These both person are the niciest and most sympathic musicians at the internet. Always super informations without any narcissim. They live and love music from their bottom.
I get the impression that these amps will always sounds 100 times better in person. Just picked up a Yamaha THR10 II so I’ve been playing around with using the gain as the volume really cool stuff especially with my black beauty. Middle pick is very magical at times!
I don't need anything. Except this. And that's the only thing I need, is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray... And this paddle game. The ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need... And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need... And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control, and the paddle ball... And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game, and the remote control, and the lamp, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. The paddle game and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches for sure. Well, what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something?! And this. That's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, and this magazine, and the chair. And I don't need one other thing, except my dog. _(Dog: Grr!)_ I don't need my dog.
This is what TH-cam was made for; All quality skilled individuals passing on priceless information. A genuine professional love of music. Excellent Interview Rick 😎
This is so timely. As I've been practicing more and more, I'm starting to awaken to other aspects of my guitar playing like the tone. Trying to get it to something that is crunchy, but where you can hear all of the notes and it's not too muddy. This is awesome! Thanks again Rick.
So... what is that amateurs don't understand about guitar tone? I thought you'd be talking about rotating volume and tone knobs on the guitar, but you only did it once or twice on amps? How is guitar involved?
How the change of tone drives you to play differently. The technique changes and the whole thing is different when the tone is much different. An amateur does not really understand that I guess.
I set my sound up when I'm playing with the whole band. Why? Because that's how to get the best sound of ALL of the instruments COMBINED. Just because your guitar sounds great when you're jamming on your own, does not necessarily mean your settings are right when playing along with the rest of the group.
Rick's started to algorithmicly optimize his titles. Probably going with a suggested title that gets the most clicks even if it doesn't perfectly encapsulate the content - and hey, we're here aren't we?
Thank you Rick Beato & Tim Pierce for this wonderful show. Living in Bangladesh I would never have the chance to to play any of these amps. Comparing them was the icing on the cake. It was a wonderful treat to the ears, mind and heart. Always a fan of you both.
Thank you for this video. It was a great exposition of some sweet gear, done by a master of the guitar. With regard to not having a lot of time to make adjustments in the studio, I once met a guy (late Seventies) who had been a studio musician. He told me (among many other things) that he would walk into the studio, and he would be expected to begin playing almost immediately upon receiving the sheet music. Every note was expected to be perfect. There was no "warmup," and no time to read over the music. He played trumpet.
Great video Guys. The SM 57 was my favourite. Sold mine to a church band years ago.🥲 Never been a fan of overdriven distortion. My playing life began with a 1964 Telecaster, an echoplex, into an Ampeg Portoflex 1 x 15. Life was simple. Still lean to clean Twin Reverb.
Man, I really liked the clean sound of that last amp. That's a keeper for sure. I don't even play guitar but I have an ear for great sound. I actually play the drums, but I used to dabble quite a bit in setting up the sound for certain rooms etc.
What somebody basically needs is an amps, a cab, a cable, a guitar and his ears. I owned a truckload of amps the last 55 years as well as vintage or new killer guitars. What’s funny, I always set every amp in a certain way with the result that it always sounded nearly the same, my personal tone. Conclusion: no matter what amp you use, your personal tone is in your ears.
Love Tim Pierce, even subscribed to him before realizing he was in Toy Matinee! Amazing insight into the mindset of a studio player! Thank you very much!
Thank you Rick and Tim.. I miss my JMP Marshal mark2 (Jose mod), I had that amp from 1984 till a few months ago when my Public Storage was broken into and my amp was stolen. Those older Marshalls are excellent for recording. Again, that you for the demontration, lots of fun.
Videos like this always makes me realize the sheer preparedness and professionalism of an individual. Here I am thinking, hey I might be pretty good, I see this and know I’m just a speck of dust compared to the real pro.
Probably my two favorite musicians to watch screwing around with equipment, just two great, stand up gentlemen..bravo you guys, loved every minute! Condolences to the gal that lost her husband....
Glad I stayed till the end.. my ears perked up with that Fender.. dragged around a Twin in the ‘90’s with the Boss pedal effects. Really loved that sound. Still mess around now and then with my “ old” Line 6 POD. Can still get some nice sounds out of that thing even straight to line out.
@@jamesswanson4303 I would like to hear it without the grease! Just a bare naked sound, à la Paul Kossoff, Rory Gallagher or Angus Young! See how great they REALLY sound effectless! Just saying.
I'm disappointed with this title, it's very negative and unbecoming of a Beato video. "Learn from one of the best pros in the business how to improve your guitar tone"
So nice to see that the SG seems to be making a comeback. When I was jamming with buddies in the late 70’s (I’m a drummer) our lead guitarist had an SB and a Flying V. Not an LP in sight. Our rhythm guitar had a ‘70s Tele Custom that the lead called a “cowboy guitar”. That model seems to be getting more respect as well.
My pedalboard contains my amp, and is very compact and versatile. HX Stomp XL, walrus r1, Jackson audio broken arrow, cause study studio comp, Mooer free step. Keep it simple. Sounds great.
Peavey still making great amps for a reasonable price, and they abound in the used market Modelers and stomp boxes are expensive and they all sound sterile by comparison because they are all fake, that is they try to reproduce a "tube sound" and while some do a decent job, none pass the test head to head...lol pun intended.
As you go through the tones, it evokes vague memories of similar-sounding songs. The strongest one was that 13:06 reminded me of the Cranberries. Not identical, but it fits well.
"What amateurs don't understand" is that for a musician as good and experienced as Tim Pierce, it simply doesn't matter in the end - he will always sound excellent and he will always sound like himself.
I don't see how that helps an "amateur" I mean, yes, Tim sounds great, but the tone was different with different amps, and we didn't play through different GUITARS... which has a lot to do with different guitar TONES.
@ That of course pros care about the equipment and how it’s dialed in, and mic’d, and which guitars, and every other detail. The internet has virtually destroyed a generation of guitarists who kept reading “gear don’t matter”. EVERYTHING matters, especially your sound. Music IS sound, so believing sound is irrelevant is actually one of the stupidest opinions a musician can hold.
@@stringtheoryguitars4952 Thank you for clarification. I'm not sure about that conclusion, though. This is another video following Rick's style of titling a video or a live stream with a question and not actually answering it in clear terms, quite annoying, you can make of it whatever you want and that can't pass as any lesson, it doesn't point out any of the wrongs in the title. In no way I ever perceived gear doesn't matter. Everyone cares about gear allowing them to achieve their goals. No generation is destroyed, people aren't stupid, it's just each generation brings something different to the table. Gosh, I grew up in the '80s, heavy metal took off as mainstream music, the sound I love the most is dated by current standards, and that's actually as it should be. On the other hand, in this channel you have a very recent short video titled "Brendan O’Brien and Rick Rubin on John Frusciante" with excerpts from interviews where the "gear doesn't matter, if the player isn't good" idea is supported. It's what I always heard the pros saying: no matter what they use, they always sound like themselves. If you want to go back in time, Chuck Berry was known for playing with whatever they had available at the venue, he couldn't care less. Definitely not any "new generation trend".
Some people have asked what the speaker cabinet is. It is a 1971 Marshall 100 watt cabinet with four 25 watt Celestion greenbacks.
those greenbacks are still the gold standard. I have one green back in a .5 watt Dark Gene by Kowalski and its the classic crunchy chime sound, no pedals.
Astonishing ya'll didn't think to try a different cab or two. Would have been nice to see how much of a difference a v30 sounds to the greenback either in same cab or separate. Except for the mic, preamp and converter when recording, speaker is last in line in our signal chains before ears folks. You can think of it as operating as a massive final filter/EQ (but it's not that simple) and has much more impact on our tone than swapping amp, especially amps of the same type.
I'm no expert, but focusing on the amp is a super amateur move and ironic considering the video title.
Still love ya'll and appreciate the efforts.
The best speaker set up.
I learned that too much lows can polute the other frequencies 👍
Were the mics in the same position? Or were you hearing the differnces in mic position? I couldn't see an image of the setup in the vid, unless I blinked.
So, what is it amateurs don’t understand? That we don´t have all these amps available?
Yeah, who died and made these guys Jimi Hendrix?
Guess I second-order don't understand
I guess they don't understand just how much of the experience of being a studio guitarist is making sure you mesh with the space, understanding how you're perceived, etc. - maybe?
Well, I learned I can't turn up with a Line 6 Helix.
The effects and tone will change the way you play. Tim just plugged in to whatever settings were dialed in and he played to them. He's more of a vessel to accentuate the equipment. Not the other way around
"Everyone in the room I wanted to take care of"
And that right there is the mindset needed to make a legendary session man.
Yep. That level of awareness.
Tim is awesome.
What amateurs don't understand is that they need some very expensive classic tube amps
@@stoogel I recently pulled out an old solid state Crate G600 100w head I bought in 1983 or so. Cleaned up pots etc. , plugged in and literally played it for two hours non stop. Played through a Marshall 1960 ,tone on this head is incredible and easily rivals my Marshall tube head. I pulled it out to give to a neighbor’s kid but no way am I giving up this head. No way am I saying solid state is better than tubes but this head has mojo. Maybe like wine it got better sitting in my dads basement for 40 years untouched.
You have to understand that these two are dinosaurs, and they are dying. So they are holding to their capital, these expensive gear.
I would say they are trying to demonstrate how to use an amp regardless of what it is….in my opinion lot of beginners just start hoarding pedals thinking that’s where tone comes from…..so I believe this video is saying start with your amp and tell where the raw is first and then build from there….
Or... you can Have a Quad Cortex or headbrush or Kemper or Ampero or HX or Axis etc and have all those amps and dial in for the tone you want with good IRs and let all those heavy expensive collector amps die.
Rock is dying anyway, nobody will play guitar in the future. Nothing matters anymore
@@Renato_Cara More people play guitar now than a decade ago. It's in a ton of pop music, especially the soul and jazz styles. Shoegaze is cool again, some artists are ripping off pop punk from 20 years ago and charting, metal has a strong fanbase... There's an audience for everything these days.
These two gentlemen have such a vast amount of musical knowledge,we are so lucky to have them on video!
yeah this was oversold
Like the "Niet-fliggs" sporting event of the Century?
For FREE, nonetheless!
Grandpa explains sound of AC/DC ... Near Death Metal ...
I love how Rick, a phenomenal guitarist himself, just gives Tim the space and spotlight while Rick kind of acts like the cheering section. What a gracious host! Best stuff on YT!
Rick could teach every person who interviews how to interview.
Rick's a terrific player, but I've never thought of him as a guitar tone guru. If the subject of the video is tone I'd expect to Tim to be the guy in the spotlight. If the subject was jazz vocabulary, say, probably a different story.
Rick's a good guitar player. Tim is a great player. His demo noodling here is ridiculous.
Rick is comfortable in his own skin, meaning he is secure with himself and his past accomplishments and doesn’t have to show off insecurities like we all did constantly calling mom to watch us make a new chord. 😂
Rick really is a skilled interviewer/host
Nice to hear the amp comparisons. The orange 1979 amp you have is one of the last of the Bexleyheath made amps with my circuit before that factory closed down and I went off to the world of live touring. Very happy memories of that time at Orange 50 years ago. J J
Tim’s smile it what drives it all: passion for music 😊
His Tone really is on his face. 😄
Yeah…it’s Tim’s wonderful smile I love most!
He looks like the nicest guy.
@@CorbCorbin they're both using fuzz face
That boomer grin
I could listen to Rick and Tim talking about music for the rest of my life and it won't be enough. Absolutely amazing!
Being an audio engineer, this is one of my favorites, I love learning the nuances between different pieces of equipment.
Can we talk about the well rounded content on this channel? Artist interviews song breakdown, industry peeks behind the curtain gear stuff and just awesome playing.
Can we talk about you being the first person in 2024 to spell/use peeks correctly?
@@guitardrift😂
Can we talk about what happened to What Makes This Song Great and why nobody's talking about it?
Yes. We should talk about why Rick Beato has not some of his better received videos in recent times. His content this year has largely been "interviews" and "rant" type videos. I miss the old diversity of videos, but if I all the sudden had Rick's current level of access to top tier musicians, I would definitely put up a lot of interviews as well.
😊
No doubt dude! This channel is Awesome! This channel is definitely for Musicians.
Rick and Tim are great together! Thanks Rick for having him on.
You can literally see how impressed Rick is when Tim just 'plays'. The level of talent right there is off the charts.
My two favourite guys together. With guitars. And amps. What's not to like? Brilliant. Thank you both for having fun in the studio!
Stranded on a desert island forever, I wouldn't know who to bring between Tim or Rick and Bebahan.
@@DelphiAmnestied Easy, you combine them to make one Beatobebahan because that would be a fun name to say every day
I just shared this with my brother who's a touring performer and said the same thing 'Our two favorite guys' So awesome that Tim and Rick made this fantastic and informative video together!
I really want to see a version of this where all these guys blind test different mics, amps, guitars without knowing the make, model, whether it's vintage or not. I'm genuinely curious to know how much of these preferences are influenced by the brand and status of certain equipment.
A blind test is the only way to get the truth cos as you say brand influence is a big factor.
They have a preference for like "vintage" stuff for sure. Let's not ignore that these guys are old heads and swear by "the classics" because that's just something they know they can rely on. But I don't think they're closed to anything that gives a good sound, just biased. - It's like car-guys of a certain generation, who will definitely hold a lot of vintage cars far above anything newer or stuff that wasn't around when they got to know cars. - It's just the same in every branch and every generation. And the cycle goes faster and faster as well. I already see kids these days talk like something from a year or two ago was something "old" from "back in the day" and "it used to be better then", even though for me something from 5 years ago is still relatively new. Probably because their hyperactive brains go a lot faster now, even though I have ADHD and drink coffee, which you can probably tell by my comment... ...What was I getting at?... Anyway... *walks off into the jungle*
thats it. thats where it falls apart.
All you hear is a lot of fuzzz..
This one has "teeth", but that one has "bite"...
I've seen this video for three consecutive times as it's a jewel.
This channel is a real contribution to music
I'm 15 and my life just got that much better shows how awesome Rick is thanks For helping me. I started playing guitar a month ago and I bought an electric two weeks ago I learned master of puppets and paranoid and enter sandman 😊thank you Rick for helping me learn guitar
Hot damn can you give 73 yr old tips🥰👍🏿
Keep it up homie
So much good information on TH-cam Guthrie Trapp is also an amazing resource…
T H I S is why I have HOPE for the Future!!
Listening to the old school guys will take you far by laying a foundation to cut your own path. You are clearly on the right track out of the blocks. Sweet. Have fun in arpeggio land - it is a sweet, sweet place to be and will remain a lifelong joy.
17:51 - "Nice studio" - the highest compliment from LA's foremost session guitarist!
WOW! The way Tim matches his playing to the amp is amazing!!
Love Tim’s playing. Could listen to him all day.
This for me is peak Rick Beato - his love of music really shines through and, much like the when he starts waxing poetic about why the shift from diatonic to mixolydian modes in a song was PURE GENIUS, even if I don't understand the nuances I'm inspired by his passion. Still here, after nearly a decade.
Also, Tim Pierce is ridiculous. I mean.
Best advice i can give is that raspy, harsh tones often sound much better in a mix. Our ideas about good tone often exist in a vacuum.
And you gotta crank those big amps. Non negotiable
I am from Egypt and I have worked with Tim 8 years ago online, Incredible Man :)
What did you do with him?
@weronikazalewska2098 we recorded 2 songs with him for a famous singer from Egypt
I love Rick's reaction at 12:04, you can tell that man truly loves guitar and music.
The compact 421 makes sense for Toms, not only for size but it’s common to add a little top to the Tom close mics so they should be close to what you want straight off.
That was the quickest 18 minutes. Could just listen to these guys talk for a couple hours. Great playing as always from Tim. Thanks Rick!
That Park Amp made Rick, Tim, and all of us see the light of Rock and Roll illuminate our souls here. Thank you so much, Rick and Tim.
Agree, that Park amp was the best of the pack to my ears. The Sovtek was also kind of kool. Same with the Fender combo. I guess I am not really a Marshall fan.
Park amp head $6-7K (Reverb). YEA. Nice studio.
I was getting definite Cranberries vibes from that one.
Nice tube amps abound for much less than that jangly Park...
I would swear I've heard that song he was playing the moment he started playing on the park before, but I can't recall what it is.
This is great having someone with Tim's musical knowledge and vocabulary just noodling around with a bunch of different amps and effects. It helps me understand what affect these different things have on creating a guitar sound and what guitarists mean when they use certain words to describe a particular tone.
I'm in post Chemo pain and this whole made me smile.. love the tones and playing...and whole attitude ❤
Keep the spirits up and keep enjoying what you can!!
Peace to you man!
Hope you can get stuck into some playing yourself to brighten your day!! 🎸
Get well brother.
Hang in there. I just finished 8 rounds of chemo. 5,5 months. You'll heal and recover buddy
I love how we never know what kind of video Rick is going to make other than it being related to making music. Love the channel and always look forward to Rick's uploads.
Thank you! I really appreciate it🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I still don't understand what I don't understand about guitar tone.
My conclusion in my opinion is that a little irony, It's not the tone but what you play hehe
It’s right in front of you! You need a few hundred thousand dollars of guitars and equipment
The lesson was, the tone defines what gets played.
Its about knowing how to dial good tone with different options of equipment and without relying solely on a massive quantity of effects. Just a guitar and amp making a great sound first, then some effects to add a little spice
It's nice to be around someone who is so talented, yet so humble and kind--and that goes for BOTH of you!
This was very entertaining, Rick. My thanks to you both!
Just god tier. Tim Pierce is such an interesting player. What a home studio. The Fender cleans are superb.
Tim just AMAZES me every time I watch him just noodle around!
I LOVE that hardware "Black Box"!!!
Thank you Rick, these videos make my day!
I have no musical talent but I find Rick’s channels so interesting. So awesome. Keep going.
Just get a TOP guitarist, a TOP guitar, a TOP amplifier, mic it up with great microphones and Boom you get a great sound! Love Tim and love Rick!!!
Add some top pedals too !
I could buy a jeep for how much ribbon mics alone would cost
Yep
TOP men!
the toan isn’t even toaning for me in this
I've used a Sovtek since I was a kid in the mid 90's. I also have an AC30 and an orange. And I always go back to the Sovtek. Love that thing!
I have HK speakers and my car and listening while driving home this demo sounded amazing!
Best guitar playing and sounding I hadn't heard in a while. Rick you should go 60fps on the videos, it's so much more full of life at this framerate, you can really enjoy the finger work of all those great guitar players.
This was so much fun to watch!! I wish he played more guitars in this video!!
All you need is an SG 😎
Seriously, I could *NEVER* get tired of listening to you and Tim talk shop and play music. I learn something every time!
Rick Beato's channel is nothing but a BLESSING to all of us. Where a few great people share their passion like this I feel like I'm getting a gift I dreamt of since my childhood and get it as an adult.
Your engineer helped expand my TONE vocabulary with the term “FIZZ” which I’ve never heard used before this post. But then, all this stuff is totally new to me as a picker. I’ve only been trying to play guitar since a pre-teen & just turned 71 this year! ☮️
Fizz comes from pushing the highs to the point that they distort. It can also sound like a can of wasps.
Awesome musicians and teachers here. I like what Tim is saying about following the sound. Break free from playing the guitar and focus on playing the sound. The sound will guide you to what to play and how to play it.
My fingers aren't big enough to reach the octave on Sound though 😢
Joke aside, this is how Eddie Van Halen of all people played guitar-- no serious theory, just following where the notes in his mind led him
If my sound/tone doesn't inspire me, I can't even play.
@RickWibel Great comment!
@@RickWibel This is true. The fun of trying out or buying a new pedal for me is I know I’m extremely likely to get ideas out of playing it that I wouldn’t have otherwise.
You know some videos just make your heart sing and your smile widen. This is indeed one of those. The varied tones and sounds are just amazing. Thank you gents for putting this one out.
The vintage 421 and the 57 through the Marshall was straight up AC/DC tone.
And that makes sense since they're the mics that were available and popular when they developed their sound.
It gets you there, yeah - AC/DC generally used Neumann 67s and 87s on the amps though, from what I understand.
My thought exactly. Awesome sound.
@@mirkomarkovic3438 57+421 is EXACTLY what they used for guitars on HTH album!
That Marshall raunch is unmistakable
I got goosebumbs when that park amp hit with delay.. i mean a straigth connection to cosmos.
Huge thanks to Tim for tips.
Youngters take notes. THESE men are pro’s !
Two orginal humble men who have so much to share with us.
@@markosaarela3537 love to see a “ goosebumb” though! Ha ha!
I love how the Fender Deluxe mixes clean sounds... it caresses your ears.
This basically makes me want to leave Neural DSP behind and go back to a wall of tube amps. Such a great experience in the studio to do this and craft your tone organically. The best sounds I have ever acheived have happened this way.
These both person are the niciest and most sympathic musicians at the internet. Always super informations without any narcissim. They live and love music from their bottom.
I get the impression that these amps will always sounds 100 times better in person. Just picked up a Yamaha THR10 II so I’ve been playing around with using the gain as the volume really cool stuff especially with my black beauty. Middle pick is very magical at times!
0:27 "I only need three things" - Your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle
You forgot to say please!
Nice night for a walk…
Underrated comment
Love that your brain hears “I only need three things” and you have to finish Arnie’s line😂😂
I don't need anything. Except this. And that's the only thing I need, is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray... And this paddle game. The ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need... And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need...
And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control, and the paddle ball...
And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game, and the remote control, and the lamp, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one...
I need this. The paddle game and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches for sure.
Well, what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something?!
And this. That's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, and this magazine, and the chair.
And I don't need one other thing, except my dog.
_(Dog: Grr!)_
I don't need my dog.
Tim Pearce and Rick Beato in the same video?! 🤯
That’s a lot of musical talent in one room!
What is this a crossover episode?
@ is this THE Marty Schwartz?! If so, I am living in some kind of guitar fever dream.
That tone is massive 👌 and i love how clean he plays it, with the clean and overdrive and reverb it gives character tone of the SG
From listening to 1000 records you should know that Tim is monster player. These licks and sounds brought tears to my eyes... wow.
Hello there, how are you doing?
This is what TH-cam was made for; All quality skilled individuals passing on priceless information. A genuine professional love of music. Excellent Interview Rick 😎
Made for jhooz echo chamber on telling the masses how to think,
This is so timely. As I've been practicing more and more, I'm starting to awaken to other aspects of my guitar playing like the tone. Trying to get it to something that is crunchy, but where you can hear all of the notes and it's not too muddy. This is awesome! Thanks again Rick.
So... what is that amateurs don't understand about guitar tone? I thought you'd be talking about rotating volume and tone knobs on the guitar, but you only did it once or twice on amps? How is guitar involved?
How the change of tone drives you to play differently. The technique changes and the whole thing is different when the tone is much different. An amateur does not really understand that I guess.
@@Ray9renderTone change naturally makes you play different. It's not a thought 🤔 - it's a natural phenomenon
I set my sound up when I'm playing with the whole band. Why? Because that's how to get the best sound of ALL of the instruments COMBINED. Just because your guitar sounds great when you're jamming on your own, does not necessarily mean your settings are right when playing along with the rest of the group.
Rick's started to algorithmicly optimize his titles. Probably going with a suggested title that gets the most clicks even if it doesn't perfectly encapsulate the content - and hey, we're here aren't we?
Thank you Rick Beato & Tim Pierce for this wonderful show. Living in Bangladesh I would never have the chance to to play any of these amps. Comparing them was the icing on the cake. It was a wonderful treat to the ears, mind and heart. Always a fan of you both.
Thank you for this video. It was a great exposition of some sweet gear, done by a master of the guitar.
With regard to not having a lot of time to make adjustments in the studio, I once met a guy (late Seventies) who had been a studio musician. He told me (among many other things) that he would walk into the studio, and he would be expected to begin playing almost immediately upon receiving the sheet music. Every note was expected to be perfect. There was no "warmup," and no time to read over the music. He played trumpet.
Great video Guys. The SM 57 was my favourite. Sold mine to a church band years ago.🥲 Never been a fan of overdriven distortion. My playing life began with a 1964 Telecaster, an echoplex, into an Ampeg Portoflex 1 x 15. Life was simple. Still lean to clean Twin Reverb.
Man, I really liked the clean sound of that last amp. That's a keeper for sure. I don't even play guitar but I have an ear for great sound. I actually play the drums, but I used to dabble quite a bit in setting up the sound for certain rooms etc.
That was a Fender Deluxe and it is one of the more popular amps of its day for studio and stage work. No wonder it's so recognized.
I can listen to this video forever!!! Tim is a beautiful guitarist. Thank you Rich for this special opportunity you gave to all of us 🤩✨
1. Tim has mad skills.
2. I loved the standard 421, not the others.
3. The amps you have are tone beasts.
4. Tim has mad skills.
Not sure if you noticed but Tim has mad skills… 😅
You should flip around #1 & #4.
Tim has one of my favorite channels. This is like Superteam. They ought to do a gig together.
Lovely. That is one heck of a lot of expertise concentrated in one room!
Thank you for allowing us to witness this!
Tone heaven. Tim is such an artist and musician. Dat fendr… wow
Tim is such a killer player. He always looks like he’s having a great time.
What a treat for this old guy...watching these classics play all these classics!!
Oh my gosh, this needed to be a few hours longer!! I was so bummed when it ended!! Great content as always Rick!!
i was expecting cabs.....
a LOT of cabs..... with each amp..... for hrs
You guys are brilliant as always. Loved Tim’s opening chord.
What somebody basically needs is an amps, a cab, a cable, a guitar and his ears. I owned a truckload of amps the last 55 years as well as vintage or new killer guitars. What’s funny, I always set every amp in a certain way with the result that it always sounded nearly the same, my personal tone. Conclusion: no matter what amp you use, your personal tone is in your ears.
Love Tim Pierce, even subscribed to him before realizing he was in Toy Matinee! Amazing insight into the mindset of a studio player! Thank you very much!
Love watching my favorite 2 content creators on 1 screen!
Thank you Rick and Tim.. I miss my JMP Marshal mark2 (Jose mod), I had that amp from 1984 till a few months ago when my Public Storage was broken into and my amp was stolen. Those older Marshalls are excellent for recording. Again, that you for the demontration, lots of fun.
Tim Pierce's tone is one of the most pleasant sounds in the universe.
Tim always makes me smile! Love him. Seems like such a nice guy. Excited to watch.
Sorry, tad confused by comment. Who is "Time?"
@@ziggyscatworld Lol oops. Tim
Videos like this always makes me realize the sheer preparedness and professionalism of an individual. Here I am thinking, hey I might be pretty good, I see this and know I’m just a speck of dust compared to the real pro.
Probably my two favorite musicians to watch screwing around with equipment, just two great, stand up gentlemen..bravo you guys, loved every minute! Condolences to the gal that lost her husband....
Glad I stayed till the end.. my ears perked up with that Fender.. dragged around a Twin in the ‘90’s with the Boss pedal effects.
Really loved that sound. Still mess around now and then with my “ old” Line 6 POD. Can still get some nice sounds out of that thing even straight to line out.
I got to play thru a silverface twin in '82. Man the sound of that amp is amazing. The weight is back breaking! I will never forget that moment.
@@jamesswanson4303 I would like to hear it without the grease! Just a bare naked sound, à la Paul Kossoff, Rory Gallagher or Angus Young! See how great they REALLY sound effectless! Just saying.
WE NEED THE GILMOUR INTERVIEW!
We really don't. 😁😉
No ...we really do!
It's coming soon rlx
Who is Gilmore?
@@michaelbyrne8238 It's that guy from that band. He played the lap guitar with one of them sliding things.
Tim Pierce.. one of my all time , respected guitar player/ artist. 🎸
I don't know what any of this means, but the guitar playing at 9:45 is awesome
Tim is awesome. Heck of a player and good guy as well..
This was so much fun to watch and listen. A great demonstration how much difference the amp makes, and Tim can bring it across so "easily" …
That is what I love about effects.
It pushes you to play differently...
😀
Would be great to see "making a full record process" . Love your channel!
I'm disappointed with this title, it's very negative and unbecoming of a Beato video. "Learn from one of the best pros in the business how to improve your guitar tone"
It’s just to get people to click on to the video, don’t hate the player…
This is Level 8 Wizard. I was only prepared for Level 7 Wizard.
A monthly Rick & Tim's Music Show is needed in these days.
So nice to see that the SG seems to be making a comeback. When I was jamming with buddies in the late 70’s (I’m a drummer) our lead guitarist had an SB and a Flying V. Not an LP in sight. Our rhythm guitar had a ‘70s Tele Custom that the lead called a “cowboy guitar”. That model seems to be getting more respect as well.
Always a pleasure to see Mr. Pierce
There's a bit of Joe Walsh's 'Time Out' in Tim's riffs around 4:45 ....fantastic!
My pedalboard contains my amp, and is very compact and versatile. HX Stomp XL, walrus r1, Jackson audio broken arrow, cause study studio comp, Mooer free step. Keep it simple. Sounds great.
LOVE the tone at 11:33 - has that cliffs of dover feel to it
First thing I thought of
Had myself all the AMPS in the early 80ties Rick have! From Orange, Marshall, Hiwatt, Park, Peavey, Roland JC 120 to Fender !! What great times!!!
Peavey still making great amps for a reasonable price, and they abound in the used market
Modelers and stomp boxes are expensive and they all sound sterile by comparison because they are all fake, that is they try to reproduce a "tube sound" and while some do a decent job, none pass the test head to head...lol pun intended.
Tim is obviously an incredible guitarist, but he also seems like a genuinely humble and likeable person.
yes i think so .. and the next big thing.. 🙏
As you go through the tones, it evokes vague memories of similar-sounding songs. The strongest one was that 13:06 reminded me of the Cranberries. Not identical, but it fits well.
There definitely was a progression from zombie in there, maybe G down to F# I think
Exactly @@eamonno9
What did "amateurs" just learn about tone that they didn't understand?
Listen to your soul?
Apart from “you have to get the sound within 3 seconds” they didn’t explain anything else
The thing that you learn is that you need a ton of money to buy all those amps :v
I’m glad I saw this comment before getting further. You saved me 17 mins! 😆
@brian_mccomedy Right. Not 5, but 3.
That man always looks so happy when he has guitar in his hands . And he is a killer player !!
"What amateurs don't understand" is that for a musician as good and experienced as Tim Pierce, it simply doesn't matter in the end - he will always sound excellent and he will always sound like himself.
Good grief man, you missed the whole point.
@@stringtheoryguitars4952 What was the point you understood, then? It's an honest question, since no explicit statement was given.
I don't see how that helps an "amateur" I mean, yes, Tim sounds great, but the tone was different with different amps, and we didn't play through different GUITARS... which has a lot to do with different guitar TONES.
@ That of course pros care about the equipment and how it’s dialed in, and mic’d, and which guitars, and every other detail. The internet has virtually destroyed a generation of guitarists who kept reading “gear don’t matter”.
EVERYTHING matters, especially your sound. Music IS sound, so believing sound is irrelevant is actually one of the stupidest opinions a musician can hold.
@@stringtheoryguitars4952 Thank you for clarification.
I'm not sure about that conclusion, though. This is another video following Rick's style of titling a video or a live stream with a question and not actually answering it in clear terms, quite annoying, you can make of it whatever you want and that can't pass as any lesson, it doesn't point out any of the wrongs in the title.
In no way I ever perceived gear doesn't matter. Everyone cares about gear allowing them to achieve their goals. No generation is destroyed, people aren't stupid, it's just each generation brings something different to the table. Gosh, I grew up in the '80s, heavy metal took off as mainstream music, the sound I love the most is dated by current standards, and that's actually as it should be.
On the other hand, in this channel you have a very recent short video titled "Brendan O’Brien and Rick Rubin on John Frusciante" with excerpts from interviews where the "gear doesn't matter, if the player isn't good" idea is supported. It's what I always heard the pros saying: no matter what they use, they always sound like themselves.
If you want to go back in time, Chuck Berry was known for playing with whatever they had available at the venue, he couldn't care less. Definitely not any "new generation trend".