Definitely looking forward to seeing the results from both. I’ve already installed the PRL intercooler with the PRL charge pipes. Made as huge difference in response, I haven’t taken the car to the dyno to see if there’s any actual hp/tq gain. The turbo sounds are definitely louder and that’s a plus in my book! Thank you for dedicating so much content towards the 10th Gen Accord.
I live in Riyadh (KSA) which is much hotter than where you live, Chad. I installed the PRL intercooler, and I have to say that I didn't intend to have it for performance rather than taking more care of the turbo and the engine. After one year of installation, so far so good.
Hey Bro I live in dubai and bought a 2022 accord 2.0 but my ecu number Is not compatible with the ktuner. Can you share your ecu number so I can check if it works?
@@TheLemonFactor Install went great. I think it took longer to get the bumper off than it did to install the cooler. The top two bolts for the HondaSense were a little tricky though. Also, I think the torque specs for the cooler bolts are 18 ft/lbs. I tightened to that spec and haven’t had any boost leaks.
I’m glad to hear it 👍. Yes, the two 12mm bolts on the “hot” side should be torqued to 18ftlbs. The most time consuming is getting the bumper off and putting it back on 🤨
Thank you for this video. I’m a welder and there’s so much undercut in the PRL welds. This video helped greatly in choosing an intercooler for my 20 Si
@@VikingMikeB It was about 89 yesterday and I only put a few pulls on it but seems to pull a bit harder. Not sure if throttle response is the same or better. Seems to break traction even more easily now at lower speeds though
Your getting some nice parts on your accord . Thanks for your work as your saving folks a lot of money. Baited breath here on your Miata replacement as I’m deciding the same . Think I’m going with the Supra Manuel if I can get one within a few grand over msrp . Not paying 80 grand for a Supra .
Thank you for the support 👍. It’s always nice to hear that people are finding the content valuable 😁. I’m seriously considering the Supra, it may take a while to get one, espy a 2023, or a manual 2023, and for MSRP - we’ll see what happens 🤷♂️
I would definitely go with the Mishimoto intercooler over the PRL because of the attention to detail in the finishing of the product. The dimensions are similar, and the weight between the 2 are very close, but I would definitely choose the Mishimoto. They both are alot heavier than the stock intercooler however...
this my guy right here. always bringing good information on the honda accord 2.0 even though i only drive my 2018 6 speed manual 2.0 for only 20 minutes once per week ☺️ ☺️ ☺️
@@TheLemonFactor HA! u ain’t gotta tell me 😆 😆 😆 the gear box is still so tight when i put it different gears i try to convince myself i need to drive the car more 😅 😅 😅
Pretty sure your tests will show the Mishimoto performs a little better. At least it did for me. I wouldn't use their non race intake but their 10th gen intercoolers are the best.
The Mishimoto intercooler is very well made and has slightly higher cooling capacity when compared to the PRL. Either one is a huge improvement over the OEM intercooler 👍
Awesome timing Chad. Just recieved my Prl intercooler. So interested to see both but especially prl one. The Mishimoto one does look a nicer, think that's powder coated right? You really went all out physically comparing these 2 brands!! Also I'm a welder and I'm usually tig welding aluminum at work. It's hard to get a larger size tig weld of aluminum to look real good. So I'm fine with how the welds look on both coolers. Mishimoto one does look nicer but will that paint or powder coating cause a bit of not cooling as well as if it was raw like the Prl?
chad did you get the warnings on ur dash after the intercooler install? im getting the crash mitigation, ACC and lane departure and brake system light, after the shop installed the prl intercooler
I did as I disconnected the battery as part of the install. After the install I drove it a bit (less than a mile) turned the car off, then back on, and all the lights were cleared 👍
@@samarllimited1928 I would to say take it to a tuner to adjust stock plugs. Do not use ngk 95660, I used them and had weird misfires. reverted back to stock plugs
@@samarllimited1928 I changed my plugs with oem ngk’s at 67k miles on 2.0t 10 speed. I didn’t “gap” them (as there’s no real concise information on whether they should be gapped or not….just alotta opinions), so I just dropped them in as they came from the Honda dealership. The truth is I never felt any difference (before/after) and I’ve been running jb4 map 2 since 20k miles, otherwise completely stock. There’s a slight rough idle when I start the car in the morning (cold start) during maybe the first 5 seconds (that’s always been there..) but after that I’ve never had misfires (or at least I can’t notice from driving..). So I’m my case changing plugs didn’t really do anything… each plug is was $45.
Send me one and I’ll test it, but I’d bet that there are no gains over the HVI v1. The new design is open underneath, dumping the air into the engine bay 😒
Somewhat… as a reduction / prevention of extremely hot intake air temperatures will help reduce the chances of knock. A better solution is to use a good quality premium high octane gas. If you need additional help, supplement a gallon to a gallon and a half of E85 per tank of gas.
Anyone thought about just using a large, universal intercooler vs a PRL or Mishimoto? Seems to be abiut HALF the cost for a universal that would fit...
Did you use the PRL intercooler tubing ? Reason I ask is that I bought the PRL intercooler tubing initially and have not bought an intercooler. Will I have a problem if I have the M intercooler installed later using PRL tubing?
So on the surface this is pretty good to see the physical differences between the two and the stock oem one. However, this is not the whole story. It's about pressure drop and flow as well across the IC. A poorly designed/engineered IC can actually give you the very little or even negative intended results. Very few sites/manufacturers talk about this. Anyone can make/fab ends and weld them to an IC core off the shelf. Not to mention the synergy of the piping on the front and rear from a flow and diameter POV, and how this works with the IC design.
Hey I need your help so I bought mishimoto but I wanted to get the (prl Intercooler Charge Pipe Upgrade Kit) and I was wondering if is going to fit help her please???
Mishimoto is painted possibly powder coated so it's cooling efficiency won't be as good, the only thing it's got going for it is the extra rows. It also weighs 4x as much. Honestly don't think it'll perform much differently to stock at stock boost levels. I would go prl imo
It's just hilarious to me how a few years ago Honda swore up and down that they had no plans to ever put turbos in any of their cars. Now apparently even Accords have turbos. Funny.
Honda wasn’t alone - many auto manufacturers stayed away from turbos due to the added cost and reliability. However, with more stringent EPA requirements, a turbo helps with efficiency, especially on smaller engines.
@@TheLemonFactor That's what's so funny about it. High revving Honda engines are perfectly suited for turbos more so than other engine brands, and enthusiasts have known this for many decades now. As far as reliability goes turbos have been around for a very long time, so car manufacturer hesitation was unfounded, other than the added cost.
Definitely looking forward to seeing the results from both. I’ve already installed the PRL intercooler with the PRL charge pipes. Made as huge difference in response, I haven’t taken the car to the dyno to see if there’s any actual hp/tq gain. The turbo sounds are definitely louder and that’s a plus in my book! Thank you for dedicating so much content towards the 10th Gen Accord.
Thank you for the appreciation and support 👍
These 10th gen accord videos are the best!
They are a very impressive car!
I’ve got a 21 civic 1.5L but love watching your vids 👍🏼
😁👍
Thanks!
Thank you! You’re always there providing support - I really appreciate it 😊
@@TheLemonFactor your welcome sir
Getting an intercooler now, the results of this video will decide which one i go with!!🔥
I live in Riyadh (KSA) which is much hotter than where you live, Chad. I installed the PRL intercooler, and I have to say that I didn't intend to have it for performance rather than taking more care of the turbo and the engine. After one year of installation, so far so good.
Yes, I’d say Riyadh is a bit hotter than Denver, CO. 😉. I’m sure it’s helping you year round 👍
Hey Bro I live in dubai and bought a 2022 accord 2.0 but my ecu number Is not compatible with the ktuner. Can you share your ecu number so I can check if it works?
I have the Mishimoto Intercooler on my Accord 2.0T and I love it. Temps definitely run cooler than stock and heat soak isn’t nearly as prevalent now.
How was your install?
@@TheLemonFactor Install went great. I think it took longer to get the bumper off than it did to install the cooler. The top two bolts for the HondaSense were a little tricky though. Also, I think the torque specs for the cooler bolts are 18 ft/lbs. I tightened to that spec and haven’t had any boost leaks.
I’m glad to hear it 👍. Yes, the two 12mm bolts on the “hot” side should be torqued to 18ftlbs. The most time consuming is getting the bumper off and putting it back on 🤨
Thank you for this video. I’m a welder and there’s so much undercut in the PRL welds. This video helped greatly in choosing an intercooler for my 20 Si
My pleasure! I’m glad you found the video informative 👍
The mishimoto is definitely a looker compared with the PRL. That said I just installed the PRL and am happy so far!
U feel better throttle response?
@@VikingMikeB It was about 89 yesterday and I only put a few pulls on it but seems to pull a bit harder. Not sure if throttle response is the same or better. Seems to break traction even more easily now at lower speeds though
@@JoseRivera-li8tr ok cool thanx
Did you also purchase the pipes as well or just the intercooler?
Just the intercooler. Not sure there is much gained from adding the pipes with a stock turbo
Great video as always! Keep ‘em coming!
Thank you! Appreciate the support. 👍
Your getting some nice parts on your accord . Thanks for your work as your saving folks a lot of money. Baited breath here on your Miata replacement as I’m deciding the same . Think I’m going with the Supra Manuel if I can get one within a few grand over msrp . Not paying 80 grand for a Supra .
Thank you for the support 👍. It’s always nice to hear that people are finding the content valuable 😁. I’m seriously considering the Supra, it may take a while to get one, espy a 2023, or a manual 2023, and for MSRP - we’ll see what happens 🤷♂️
I would definitely go with the Mishimoto intercooler over the PRL because of the attention to detail in the finishing of the product. The dimensions are similar, and the weight between the 2 are very close, but I would definitely choose the Mishimoto.
They both are alot heavier than the stock intercooler however...
Aside from the added weight, the Mishimoto intercooler is really nice 👍
Both seem to good choices, can't wait to see some results!
Are you looking to upgrade your intercooler?
@@TheLemonFactor it's crossed my mind, I live in the California valley where it gets over 100 degrees in the summers.
It would definitely be helpful on those extremely hot days 😎
this my guy right here. always bringing good information on the honda accord 2.0 even though i only drive my 2018 6 speed manual 2.0 for only 20 minutes once per week ☺️ ☺️ ☺️
Only once per week? That’s a shame, especially with that smooth 6-speed! 😎
@@TheLemonFactor HA! u ain’t gotta tell me 😆 😆 😆 the gear box is still so tight when i put it different gears i try to convince myself i need to drive the car more 😅 😅 😅
😁
Can't wait to see more. I'm also interested in getting a intercooler for my 2.0t 👍
More to come 👍. What intercooler are you considering?
@@TheLemonFactor I was looking into the PRL but now I'll have to take a look at the mishimoto
It is nice! I do have the PRL intercooler for sale if you’re interested.
@@TheLemonFactor Hi Chad, I might be intrested in purchasing if still available. Thanks
It is still available 👍. Send me an email - you can find my email address on the TH-cam channel page under About.
Great video
Thank you, Christopher!
Pretty sure your tests will show the Mishimoto performs a little better. At least it did for me. I wouldn't use their non race intake but their 10th gen intercoolers are the best.
The Mishimoto intercooler is very well made and has slightly higher cooling capacity when compared to the PRL. Either one is a huge improvement over the OEM intercooler 👍
That's the key with turbo compressor. Cooling! It will make a bigger difference than the air intake.
Absolutely! I would have liked to see them a little lighter, but… 🤷♂️
Awesome timing Chad. Just recieved my Prl intercooler. So interested to see both but especially prl one. The Mishimoto one does look a nicer, think that's powder coated right? You really went all out physically comparing these 2 brands!!
Also I'm a welder and I'm usually tig welding aluminum at work. It's hard to get a larger size tig weld of aluminum to look real good. So I'm fine with how the welds look on both coolers. Mishimoto one does look nicer but will that paint or powder coating cause a bit of not cooling as well as if it was raw like the Prl?
I think the coating on the Mishimoto would be beneficial, but in reality doubt that there is any measurable difference 🤷♂️
Will the mishimoto fit on a 2018 1.5T?
I don’t see why it wouldn’t but you might want to reach out to them to confirm
Perfect time to upload this haha
You in the process of considering getting one?
@@TheLemonFactor yea im leaning more on the prl one since its not paintes
painted
which would you recommend which both are so similar ?
The video highlights the differences between the two. For me it was clear, which was the better buy.
Related comment: I purchased PLM (Private Label Manufacturing) intercooler, and had poor fitment issues. 2021 2.0T 10AT. Unhappy.
You forgot to précise if its bar and plate or tube and fins
I’m interested in buying your prl intercooler
Sorry, already sold.
chad did you get the warnings on ur dash after the intercooler install? im getting the crash mitigation, ACC and lane departure and brake system light, after the shop installed the prl intercooler
I did as I disconnected the battery as part of the install. After the install I drove it a bit (less than a mile) turned the car off, then back on, and all the lights were cleared 👍
@@TheLemonFactor thats odd, must be something else that is triggering these warnings. I heard its a common issue on the 2018 models
Unless they messed with the front sensor 😕
Did you get the issue figured out im going throught the same with mine I might have to have mine recalibrated
Where you get the white emblem from?
It's vinyl wrapped...th-cam.com/video/xdTL2HMJqJE/w-d-xo.html
What are the best spark plugs to use for the phearable stage 3 tune
Stock plugs are fine. If you have any misfires just gap them a bit smaller
@@JoseRivera-li8tr I have some mis fires
So I am looking for the best to use
@@samarllimited1928 I would to say take it to a tuner to adjust stock plugs. Do not use ngk 95660, I used them and had weird misfires. reverted back to stock plugs
@@samarllimited1928 I changed my plugs with oem ngk’s at 67k miles on 2.0t 10 speed. I didn’t “gap” them (as there’s no real concise information on whether they should be gapped or not….just alotta opinions), so I just dropped them in as they came from the Honda dealership. The truth is I never felt any difference (before/after) and I’ve been running jb4 map 2 since 20k miles, otherwise completely stock. There’s a slight rough idle when I start the car in the morning (cold start) during maybe the first 5 seconds (that’s always been there..) but after that I’ve never had misfires (or at least I can’t notice from driving..). So I’m my case changing plugs didn’t really do anything… each plug is was $45.
I've wanted to upgrade for better flow & exhaust sound
I’d love to one day see prl hvi v2 results
Send me one and I’ll test it, but I’d bet that there are no gains over the HVI v1. The new design is open underneath, dumping the air into the engine bay 😒
@@TheLemonFactor wait really? I thought it was sealed off
it's not open to the engine compartment. I just installed mine a couple days ago.
Please send me a picture (if you’re willing to) from the sides. Thank you. 👍
@@danielrinehart869 Never mind about the pics... I stand corrected, it's not open on the bottom as I originally thought.
So witch one gave you more hp lol waiting for you to reply to make my choice thank you
Will this help lower knock control?
Somewhat… as a reduction / prevention of extremely hot intake air temperatures will help reduce the chances of knock. A better solution is to use a good quality premium high octane gas. If you need additional help, supplement a gallon to a gallon and a half of E85 per tank of gas.
@@TheLemonFactor i can do a mix gas with e85 without flex fuel?
A small supplement of 1 to 1.5 gal per tank full is fine.
@@TheLemonFactor ok thanks
@@TheLemonFactor I put the 1.5 gallons of e85 in my tank and my kcon still gets high at the track.
Anyone thought about just using a large, universal intercooler vs a PRL or Mishimoto? Seems to be abiut HALF the cost for a universal that would fit...
Did you use the PRL intercooler tubing ? Reason I ask is that I bought the PRL intercooler tubing initially and have not bought an intercooler. Will I have a problem if I have the M intercooler installed later using PRL tubing?
I currently still have the OEM charge pipes. The PRL charge pipes work with the OEM intercooler, so they should be fine with the Mishimoto as well.
@@TheLemonFactor thank you Chad !
Of course, not a problem 👍
Can anyone here please let me know if the PRL Chargepipes will fit a Mishimoto intercooler?
I have head that it does fit. And there’s really no reason why it shouldn’t. 👍
So on the surface this is pretty good to see the physical differences between the two and the stock oem one. However, this is not the whole story. It's about pressure drop and flow as well across the IC. A poorly designed/engineered IC can actually give you the very little or even negative intended results. Very few sites/manufacturers talk about this. Anyone can make/fab ends and weld them to an IC core off the shelf. Not to mention the synergy of the piping on the front and rear from a flow and diameter POV, and how this works with the IC design.
Hey I need your help so I bought mishimoto but I wanted to get the (prl Intercooler Charge Pipe Upgrade Kit) and I was wondering if is going to fit help her please???
I have not upgraded the Intercooler charge pipes, but I don’t see why they wouldn’t fit 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor I don’t know i just didn’t want to risk it and buy it for no reason but you respon made it easier for me so I’m get it 💯🙏🏼
Just tried to order a mishimoto intercooler to California and apparently they can’t send them here because of some sort of CARB bs…. 🤬🤬
Mishimoto vs PRL dyno comparison
Unfortunately, there is no truly effective way for me to dyno compare the two intercoolers 🤷♂️
Injen intercooler?
🤷♂️?
its about cool air into your turbo bigger intercooler better
Mishimoto is painted possibly powder coated so it's cooling efficiency won't be as good, the only thing it's got going for it is the extra rows. It also weighs 4x as much. Honestly don't think it'll perform much differently to stock at stock boost levels. I would go prl imo
Not sure were you’re getting your information or conclusions from, but your assessment is inaccurate 🤨
It's just hilarious to me how a few years ago Honda swore up and down that they had no plans to ever put turbos in any of their cars.
Now apparently even Accords have turbos. Funny.
Honda wasn’t alone - many auto manufacturers stayed away from turbos due to the added cost and reliability. However, with more stringent EPA requirements, a turbo helps with efficiency, especially on smaller engines.
@@TheLemonFactor That's what's so funny about it. High revving Honda engines are perfectly suited for turbos more so than other engine brands, and enthusiasts have known this for many decades now.
As far as reliability goes turbos have been around for a very long time, so car manufacturer hesitation was unfounded, other than the added cost.
What’s the best Sparkplugs to use for the phearable stage three tune
Stock ones, i jus got the ngk ones but havent installed em nd will prolly wait a little white until i do
Running stage 3 right now nd seems fine