DIALED: Episode #15 - JORDI'S BASIC SUSPENSION SETUP
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2019
- The FOX crew make their way to Leogang from Fort William and Jordi shares how to do a basic front and rear suspension setup.
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Best thing about this vid: Jordi REALLY choosing his wording properly that way there's very little misinterpretation!!! Fox quality at it's finest.
Cheers! We are lucky to have Jordi! 💪
Thanks for doing this guys. Im sure youd rather be relaxing in the car after a long flight/travel day.
You got that right, we’re just out here living that VLOG life. 📷
Send this video to Loris
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Can't believe this series isn't getting more views. Great stuff Fox, thanks!
Great instructional vid thank you 🙏 🤘
Thank-you Jordi for taking time to make this great video!
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My god man- I consider myself to be at least knowledgeable about this stuff- but you just made this whole process the cleanest and easiest to understand set of steps ever. You are my hero- heading out to the trail to try your tips now! Thank you!
Cheers Nate, glad we were able to help you DIAL your ride in!
Thanks guys!! Really helpful!!
best suspension tuning video I've seen. Ever.
Cheers Jordan! 🍻
Been waiting for this! Finally someone who knows exactly what they’re talking about!
Nicely done, this was very easy to understand and follow. More like this please.👍🏽
Outstanding and concise suspension setup tut.
brilliant episode!!! the kind of stuff I wanted to see for long time! maybe could you do like a "part 2 video" where Jordi explains Pro level suspension set-up with no data aquisition system? Like for truly dial bikes for tracks. What bike feedback to look for on the way down the trail so adjustments can be made accordingly to get the most out of the suspension.
Also a chapter on rear shocks only. How to set-up & tune them
We are already planning an advanced setup video next, stay tuned 👊
Awesome vid. Thank you.
You are most welcome 🤙
Jordi your the best you make suspension setting so easy thank you my friend
Jordi is the man!
Jordi Clooney the Suspension Doctor 😂
this was fantastic !
Thanks Brodie! 👊
Might be the best guide i’ve seen on setup
Wow this was the best explanation i ever Heard. Thankyou @jordi
Quality stuff! 👌🏼👍🏼
Cheers 🤙
This is actually sweet! Thanks for putting this out team!
Cheers Stephen! 🍻
Nice video!! That’s will help when I get way off the factory settings.
Needed this thanks guys
Really appreciate this guys
🍻Agus
this is so helpful
This is real informative! Thanks for sharing 😁👍🏽
Your'e welcome Derrick! 👊
Loving the vids guy’s , and this has to be the best explanation of suspension setup I’ve ever heard, slow methodical explanation, giving me the understanding I need, as I find it a bit of a mystery sometimes, and to be honest I don’t adjust my settings from one ride to the next, but will definitely try it more now. Cheers
Jordi your explanation in suspension adjustments makes it so simple in suspension adjustments thanks for making this great video 👍
This was great 👍 Thanks for sharing your knowledge .
Glad you enjoyed it! We have plenty more to share with you guys!👊
What a nice video by Jordy himself. It's so clearly explained also for a French guy as me... Thanks for sharing this! Cheers.
The man, the myth, the legend, Jordi Clooney 😂
Thanks for takin the time to explain the set up! Super valuable!
you got it! 👊
Probably the best no nonsense suspension video ever 👍 Jordi you are the freaking real Shockwiz 🤘😎 #ridefox
Man, thank you for this! Better understanding of suspension dialing makes me want to ride and look for the sweet spot. Jordi, you're the man, cheers!! :)
Brilliant episode! Well explained basic set up
Cheers Micheal, let us know what kind of videos you want to see!👊
Awesome video.
Cheers Ryan! 🍻
Great tips, guys! 🤘
Such a good video. Advice coming from the master is definitely appreciated.
Cheers Tim! 🍻
This is gold! The best advice on suspension by a country mile. 🇮🇪
Glad you’re enjoying it Nick! 🤙
Good stuff!
Thanks Jordi for the basic setup. good explanation of the basics in suspension setups.
Thanks for watching Jim 👊
Now I see that Jordi truly is the master
This is going to be in my tool kit from now on, most informative suspension setup guide I’ve seen. Thanks Jordi + Crew.
My Hightower LT (Fox 36 Elite and DPX2) thanks ya too haha.
Glad this was helpful, we plan of doing a lot more of these types of videos! 🤙
great stuff guys.
Great content. Also of course Jordie is riding a Santa Cruz. He’s got a special connection with the Syndicate!
Eso es todo Chingon!!!
Went back to basics as per video and its ridiculous the difference it's made to my Stumpy. Totally sorted front end of bike, it turns into corners so much better & feels grippier. Rode same trail day before so not imagining it. Main change was adding 15psi to front fork. Went through same process on wife's bike and she's much happier too. So glad I found this!!
Great video understanding fork and shock rebound and compression makes things a whole lot easier
We are happy to help, we have lots more of this type of videos planned for the future!
Amazing, thanks very much. I finally know what the hell low and high speed rebound/compression is and how to set them.
It's actually simple...once it all clicks.😉
Please do more suspension tutorials. I will be picking up my first full suspension bike in a few days and I want to understand everything I can. The more technical the better! With visuals would be awesome too! The fork on my bike is the Fox Performance Rhythm GRIP 2 with 150mm travel.
Great explanation. Helped translate what I’m feeling into the correct setting but more importantly for me, which setting.
This is great ! I set up my bike today with this and the advanced Bracketing technique in episode #32 over a set course lap. It made a huge difference and definitely helped me better understand the feeling and effects of Rebound Damping and High and low speed Compression damping. My only suggestion would be to start with Rebound damping - because if it's not right - it's really hard to set anything else up. I also think rebound damping is easier to "feel" for a novice and then it doesn't get in the way of compression damping if you get it right. Thanks again - I am dialed !!
i was waiting that for so looong time ! jordi who explains suspension is always a pleasure to listen ! :D
i have already heard jordi say that if you don't change pressure, you don't change rebound but i was missing the information how he setup the rebound. now it's pretty clear !
continue this series it's wonderful !
Thats why we are making DIALED! 🤙
added to favourites for for easy reference
Great vid.
This upload makes me want to ride more than any POV TH-camr with a gimble and GoPro..
Awesome video... this is pretty much exactly what we go through on our Level 1 and 2 Instructor Courses... has Jordi done his PMBIA certifications?! Haha.. just kidding. This is a great resource for any rider or coach out there.
Nicely explained Jordi, you can tell it's your job to help people puzzle over set up!
I was wondering, do you always set riders up with a fair amount of compression damping? I think I remember hearing that some riders prefer completely open damping and to run a higher spring rate to keep the bike supported. (Like me, but I'm not at World Cup level obviously) This video has me inspired to fiddle a bit more with my set up and try some compression. Cheers guys!
JDog with the gold!
THANK YOU
YOU ARE WELCOME! 🤙
live long and prosper jordi!
When jordi talks, you listen!
* Question: What was Jordi's education and career path that got him to the position he has today?
you have to listen that ;) and you will get all you need www.downtimepodcast.com/jordi-cortes/
Great Question Sexely, that podcast is great, but we also have an episode planned that will dive into this question more!
Hey Ik this is late but recently when I do jumps and brake I get massive cracks is this to do with my forks?
@@mtbshorts3328 If you are talking about loud cracking sounds, which i hope you are and not real cracks, this is because of the crown stanchion unit. the CSUs on fox forks are notorious for creaking after a few months.
Awesome video, could you do an in depth to set up? Also I was running a x2 2018 had it set up well, had the 2019 kit installed (heavy rider 16st reaching pressure limits) .i was told I wouldn't need to change setting is this right as I feel its bit slower, and feel harsh..? Thanks and love this series. 🤙
Fantastic walk through! I read the manual for my X2 and bracketed my settings, got it dialed in no time! People who struggle with these shocks are not doing a methodical approach to tuning it.
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Thanks for the video! It’s very helpful. I have a question about my fork. What do I want to do if my fork dives too much upon breaking or aggressive cornering? I have a pike so only have low speed compression adjustment.
What I would love to know or see is putting that X2 on the Bronson V3. I’ve seen it on people’s bikes. However when I’ve asked both Fox and SC reps about they tell it’s not possible and I would need the DPX2. Ive seen the float X2 on this bike though.
Great for info thanks. Just 1 question. When doing basic sag settings. Where should the rebound and compression setting be set to? Fully closed or fully open?
love your series!! thx for the really basic explanation! what i was always wondering is: taking off of a jump or landing from a drop - is this high or lowspeed rebound, high or low speed compression?
Cle Mäns Drops/jump landings are always highspeed (compression/rebound). I would say the same for taking off a jump, but maybe some “dive” from LSC can effect how far the fork moves into its travel on the take off. Rockshox LSC, is different in “feel” to Fox LSC, but functions the same.
*Question, why have I gone though 4 36 csus I’m not a particular heavy rider, quite lite one the bike and my headset is never over tightened, just enough but for some reason they last me about 5 moths and then just pure creaking from my fork all the time.
Sick video, cheers guys 👍🏼
Hi Jordi and fox team. Thanks for those videos very instructives but one thing I missed. For the sag at this started point how the global setting fork must it be? Full open/full closed or middle range maybe? The rest is all clear for me. Cheers and take care.... Nickl
Generally speaking, what setting changes would you recommend if your front end is sliding more than your rear and/or you want your rear end to slide more?
I had my suspension set up per Fox recommendations
Felt saggy until I hit chunky downhill they that was the best most confident feeling… had to readjust for my climbing trails though
Not suspension related, but I notice Jordi pulled his phone from a pocket under his shirt. What type of shirt is that, it would be very useful for enduro racing? Great video, I'm hooked on Dialled.
"We're not worthy "!!!!
Can you guys do a video about why you dunk your air shafts in a bucket of grease and cause the forks to feel like crap straight from the factory?
Great vid!! I have factory 36 and x2 Think I have it reasonably set but don’t get great pop off jumps. Any ideas would be great. 🤘🏼
Probably HSC/HSR and possibly not enough spacers (should be obvious if you’re bottoming out)
Thanks for the tips. If you setup the sag properly and find a good setting for compression and rebound but then want to stiffen up the suspension a little more for riding a jump line, what is the best course of action?
Maybe add compression then go back when doing trail riding
What is the best way to setup rear shock rebound? Great vid yo!
Thanks! What is your shoe/ pedal combination?
I can feel quite a lot of difference from changing LSR, when I release my 36 and X2 from under 50 or 40% of travel. Isn’t that the most critical setting for keeping your fork higher in travel when going fast over roots and other bumps? As damping acts relative to speed, in the situation of rebound damping, it depends on spring compression only, right?
thank you, master! I am an unworthy student! ;)
Jokes aside. It happened to me, that I forgot to dial out everything before setting my SAG. That made my suspension feel different, while having "the same amount of SAG" tyre pressure and cockpit height. As Fox counts clicks from the closed position, it is still correct to open (counterclockwise turns on the compression dial) before setting the SAG, correct? Thx
Have a good time in Leogang :)
another great vid! I have a question, how many times have you pretended to adjusted someones setup as you knew it was correct for them to report back that it felt better? :-)
While we may appear to keep things light around the trailer, we work to build trust with our riders and 100% transparent with them.
Cheers for the set up tutorial. I have a problem with my dpx2 I don’t get the part where you have to cycles it every 50psi. I’m 100 lbs and I have 200+ psi in my dpx2 I don’t know if this is right my sag is a bit much but I can’t seem to get any more air in even tho the max is 350
you have to cycle it to get air in the positive and negative chambers ( both sides of the shock ) as you put air in from zero psi. One helps counteract the other to make the shock function properly. At 100lbs, 200psi seems excessive - I run a different brand of shock, at nearly twice your weight and I use 210psi. TH-cam is your friend. I'm sure there are DPX2 set up videos out there.
I wish I had your job jordi as a mechanical engineer myself I would love to be in your shoes
Nice video! I think I've heard this a few other places, but for the best measurement of sag, should you open all the damping circuits? Do you do that with the World Cup racers, or is sag with whatever damping they are using more important? Thanks!
Damping only effects movement, sag is a static position in this video. Even with heavy damping, static sag should be the same. However, dynamic sag (when you are riding over uneven terrain) is effected by damping. Example: very slow rebound lowers your average sag point/ride height over repeated bumps, but that's another puzzle for later...
So when setting your air pressures to get your sag and "80-85%" compression points. Should all compression and rebound damping be open or closed? Does it matter what the fork or shock is set to?
Hey Team Fox,
thank you very much for the amazing video, it helped me quite a lot setting up my 36.
I got two small questions:
1. When messuring the forks SAG, do you pull apart the lower and upper part of the fork to unfold its full length, or do you leave it as it is?
2. I just got the new 2021 DHX2 and I am wondering if there is a similar video of you guys, but for a coil shock?
Stay save guys ! :-)
Your fork&shock should be fully extented when the bike is unloaded. If not the case maby consider a service
does the compression setting before you take sag make difference , or should you set compression to the middle before setting up sag
is there an order I should go about setting up like sag then air volume then low speed compression then high speed then rebound or does it not matter what order you set up the compressions and rebounds? and should i set up my fork or shock first?
How does it work with the 49 forks when you have the option for 190 and 203mm travel. It is able to change to one or the other? Or how does this work?
What do you mean? If you are asking if the limited 190mm travel is going to negatively affect your damper, that is not the case. Dampper does not care about available travel, thus its identical in 40 and 49. Your air spring is simply limited to 190mm travel and you calculate your sag etc. from that lenght.
Do lockout such as the twinloc system on scott bikes affect compression
Thy for this but you forget to set the rebound on the shock. Are there some tips. Is it right that when you roll of a curb sitting on the bike the shock should go back to its sag as fast as possible without bouncing around?
Shout out Zach Gareis in that intro😂
Question: I’m glad to hear Jordi say fork sag 15-20%. Most others seem to suggest 20-25%. However, I find it quite unlikely for Fox’s own suggested pressures to achieve this little sag. Like under 50psi for a 140lb rider. Am I missing something here?
Jordi's recommendations were for aggressive riders
Fox Academy #3 video states to fully open HSC and LSC (fully counterclockwise) and use the front brake when setting up sag.
Ibis recommends 28-32% fork sag on my ripmo with a grip2 36.. should I aim for that or the 15-20% that Fox recommends?
Thanks guys! Just a question, why the boss himself is not running a Kashima coating fork? Not very valuable ? :p
So if I am finding that the rear shock is obsorbing my body movement when I try to preload the bike for jumps/drops/hops but my sag is good, where should I start? I have been adjusting the high speed rebound to trya nd achieve more pop but I'm not 100% happy with it yet. Any tips?
Stravaiging MTB if your sag is correct, then you should adjust your highspeed (and maybe low speed) compression, not your rebound. You said preload, so that’s before rebound is doing anything, other the kick you off your bike if its too high. Try putting your bike in “trail” mode, if you want it more “supportive” on the take off and landings (they will feel a little harsher), and also try and put in some more LSC to make it firmer. I’m guessing your not bottoming out, or you should install tokens, to make it more progressive towards the endstroke of travel.
Just remember, you can’t have a perfect suspensions setup for big jumps / drops, and say gnarly trails... it’s always a compromise. So set it up for what you enjoy the most and “live” with the rest feeling “ok’ish”.