You'd think that was the case, neither looked happy about having to make this video, not a smile was cracked during the making of this. The lords name was used in vain once though.
I geeked out :47 seconds into DIALED S2-EP21 when I thought I had caught a glimpse of how the magic really happens!! I cloned my own copy of said magical paper, and thanks to ya'lls content, my tuning has taken my riding to a new level. Thank you FOX!!
The whole Dialed series is brilliant. I think it's too easy to look at mtb suspension as some form of magic, but really it's both technical and teachable. Thanks for giving us a view into the inner workings of how our bikes work, and what race support looks like.
Thank you Nicholas, we took a chance with creating something different with DIALED but comments like this prove viewers and customers like you appreciate this type of content, so happy to hear you are enjoying it, continue to share your thoughts and let us know what you would like covered in future episodes! 👊
Pretty much the same method when adjusting dirt bike suspension. Except that if we were having issues getting a good baseline, we would remove the bike's side panels and videotape a troubling section, then rewatch it in slo-mo. This would help us see how the wheels were reacting to the terrain and that would help determine if and what internal adjustments might be needed. Just wondering if anyone else has tried videotaping a section?
Hey can you guys do these Jordi setup vids with Loris? His sound effects and Frenglish make for descriptive and useful info...hahahaha But in all seriousness, it'd be cool to have someone to articulate the change in ride feel (something beyond, "it's good", "it was better before") over sections of trail or types of obstacles after adjustments. Thanks!
For sure, a few people have been asking for us to include some "big dogs" like Loris in future episodes. These guys are busy and focused with the World Cups but we will do our best for you guys! 👊
And when will Fox swap that air sleeve guide ring made of bronze/teflon to something that doesn't scratch the kashima coating 7:37? I made my own, that doesn't scratch and makes the shock more coil like, but can't say the material, maybe if you hire me... (But I believe in you if you tell me that it's difficult to be mass produced, as the tolerances have to be really tight. In my case (+/-0.005mm))
Not sure if you are familiar with the vorsprung tuesday tune videos, but according to Steve's dyno testing, the effects of LSR and HSR on the X2 shock are pretty much the same. He says to close the HSR and work with LSR only, then if you reach full open on LSR and need more adjustment, start opening the HSR. Can you confirm/deny this, and explain?
Stephen Daly Do you really need an explanation? You watched the Vorsprung video and saw that they explain it quite extensively.. You know with graphs from the dyno and everything..
Well I see Jordi making suggestion to riders to adjust both hi/lo speed rebound independently, yet if they function the same as explained from vorsprung, why is he not saying the same thing as Steve? Does fox disagree with this method? Just looking for clarification on the real world use of these adjusters. Not sure why you're trying to shut down a legitimate question before the pros can answer it
I personally prefer to have slower hsr and fast lsr so the bike can track the ground well without bucking on jumps. Might as well get a simpler shock if you dont want to set these independently..
@@sdaly88 I don't think you're going to get a response from Fox on other people's/companies tuning methods or theories. They are going to recommend what was shown in the video. If you want to try the other method do so. Use the same sections of trai, back to back, on the same day, bracketing and recording your results. See if it works better for you, if doesn't, return to the original method and settings.
Very interesting question actually! But after watching many videos about the subject I've realised that there are different philosophy about suspension setup. That said you will notice some common points! Anyway testing, bracketing and go back testing etc...
As many have said , these videos are awesome, particularly the content around set up. It would seem that mountain bike suspension set up is prime to have an app created to provide base settings and to record clicks and pressures, with the potential to add functionality like feel, EG if shock feels harsh on steep drops, add high speed compression. This would allow you to have your own Jordi on the trail with you. Is there any reason why Fox doesn't hasn't developed an app already?
Do you have a video explaining in what scenario you would change hsc, lsc, hsr and lsr. For instance braking bumps feeling harsh on the arms, you would adjust your ...........
Generally speaking, what setting changes would you recommend if your front end is sliding more than your rear and/or you want your rear end to slide more?
I so much f...ing loved it this is the kind of videos that us mechanic geeks like to watch. And on top of that we are pretty much learning from the best ! I have learned a lot from your series keep it up and thank you for sharing it!
Jordy I'm trying to work out how to get the rebound dialed in with regard to air spring pressure. I'm 6 clicks on my Fox Rhythm 34 Fork. 1 volume spacer. 90 PSI rendering about 24% sag. I'm using about 80 to 85% of for travel on a variety of trails with some small 1-3' drops. I'm going to let out 2.5 to 3 lbs of air on the fork and wondering if I would need to adjust the rebound, considering there will be slightly more travel with a slightly softer 'spring'
In general: with less air pressure you need more rebound. 2-3 psi from 90 is not much, so you might only change it by one click if you were happy with the rebound at 90 psi
you said in the video that HSC is set to 15 clicks from close (36). How does this compare to the information in the company's configuration guide that the HSC scope is only 8 clicks away from closing? because now I'm confused...
Clearly people are into getting their suspension DIALED, we are working on more of these types of videos for you guys, stay tuned and be sure to subscribe! 👊
Hi, I ride a megatower using a fox DHX2 2019 and a fox 36 2019 160mm grip 2 factory on it. Just having some difficulty to set the DHX2, a little beat harsh at rock gardens, and the fox 36 a little low sensitivity (bar time at rockgardens and brake bumps), also the bike tend to rear kick on jumps. Can you please help me? I'm 1,82cm, 85kg, intermediate rider. Terrain with rocks, gravel, small mid jumps (less than 1,60m lip). I'm using: DHX2 SLS 500lbs x 2,75 spring (34% sag). HSC all open LSC 3 from all open HSR 14 from all open LSR 11 from all open FOX 36 factory grip2 81 psi HSC all open LSC 7 from all close HSR 2 from all open LSR 9 from all open
🇺🇲Ok, Guys just saw your Vid, added to positive and it leveled out too 200psi, I'm usually 195psi Fox Float RSV 2X . . Custom tune 10 ? Pivot I'll take it for a spin tomorrow AM👍,lol it feels better balanced !🇺🇲
I feel its probably just personal preferrance but I like to start with everything wide open and close as I progress in tuning. Also running the Smashpot in my Zeb for ultra sensitivity, traction and confidence. I want as much absorption and as little front wheel deflection as possible for my region and I found the only way for that to be possible is to run coils in my forks. I kind of know based on which trail I ride how much low speed or high speed to add and even HBO. None the less I geek out and love finding ways to improve my set up. Its apparent when you see me ride cuz the bike just eats and stays so composed. And I'm referring to a 60lb Turbo Levo. 170/ 160 with the Cascade Link and coil rear shock as well.
I've got a fox 36 factory 160....ive had problems with it feeling like it is vibrating madly over smooth fast terrain...to the point I have to slow down.No one seems to be able to work out the problem...Im 200 pounds and ride hard and aggressive...no matter what pressure or compression I use it's still the same...this this the second bike the fork has been on with the same results...services are up to date.....HHHEELLPP...lol
Jordy, can I expect suspension to feel the same at my preferred settings every time? Will this change with the life of the shocks? And how does basic maintenance effect how my shock at preferred seatings will feel! Love this channel and the sharing of your knowledge! Episode 3 should be with Loris!!
Any word on how those adjustments relate to each other? I’m curious whether I should use a spacer when bottoming out too often on big hits or up the hsc a bit. Guessing the spacer would result in a more poppy bike whereas the heavier damping would deaden the bike and would also affect the entire stroke.
Be interested to know what the rider felt with the given changes e.g. what did it do when hitting roots, was it more playful, did it impact turn in etc.
Holy crap I was just suggesting this yesterday in the comments and here the video is today! You guys and gals are the best! I can't think of any other sport I've ever seen where the people at the pinnacle of the sport share such detailed information.
@@FOXFACTORY Apologies if this has been covered before. One thing that has puzzled me is how you set high speed and low speed settings independently given that the dials seem to move in unison?
Question: If I add more Vol Spacer to the fork at the same pressure will the fork handle better at breaking bumps? I assume that it is more sensitive at the beginning stroke and more harsh to the end because of progressivity. I would like to divide this question into - braking - no braking What I want at my fox 40 is better handling at breaking bumps. The problem I see is. Usually at breaking bumps (not always - different skill levels and so different breaking points) you have to break, so you re deep into travel... - more progressivity, harsher at breaking bumps... - less progressivity, better at breaking bumps... Is there I possible right answer? Thanks in advance
It might actually make it worse to add volume spacers. How's your sag? You might need to bump up the pressure a bit and reduce the HSC if you're getting beat up over the braking bumps. I've settled on less spacers & less HSC while adding pressure and it has increased the sensitivity over high speed chatter. If you ride too deep in the suspension travel it will feel very harsh.
Every time I watch one of your videos I end up ''puzzling'' and I end up usually where I started, but today after seeing how many spacers have you used in shock (Connor is same weight as me) I tried even bigger in my DPX2 0.86 and hell yeah!!! I struggled with fork it was either too harsh on trail or too soft in bigger compressions, couldn't get it quite right. Also rear shock seemed to be bottoming bit more than fork. I guess more support on back brings more weight on fork, so none of them work ''overtime'', I guess...Now bike feels balanced, I dont know why I didnt put bigger spacer there earlier..oh well..Thanks guys :-D love it keep 'em coming
imo, the easiest way to teach anyone to dial their suspension would be explaining what is actually happening when you open or close the adjuster knobs and how the bike behaves/changes behavior in consequence of the adjustment. if you know what will happen when you close the damper you will know whether you want it opened or closed.
We plan on shooting a "Part 3" here in Lenzerheide where Jordi explains each individual adjustment in detail. Stay tuned and make sure to subscribe so you don't miss anything! 👊
Does Fox use data acquisition? Maybe use the tech in the live value system to create data acquisition specific shock to 'dial' the settings, then flip back to your race shock. The data seems to have really helped the specialised team this year.
Hey guys, I have a 2020 factory grip2. My high speed compression bob is pretty hard to turn, especially from fully clockwise. Fork is basically brand new. Is this normal?
bracketing, such a simple method of finding improvements and its not just applicable to suspension but most things that have some form of adjustments, of the top of my head ive done the same in gaming and screen colour calibrations
Nice video! Can you explain why you start from lsc first and the rebound is a last? Should it be opposite? And in case if I don’t have volume spacers is it correct to just pump more air? I understand it will mess the sag but I believe it will be firmly and with volume spacers fork remains soft but with less bottom effect? Thank you.
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Hey guys, I am having trouble finding the fully closed position on my fork HSC (Fox 36 170mm/29 Grip 2), it does not seem to have a firm stop, it just keeps clicking in and just gets firmer to turn. It does have a solid stop when wound fully open though so can you tell me how many clicks from full open would be to fully closed? Manul seems to say 16 clicks of adjustment but when I count in from fully open it does not seem even close to stopping, it has another 10 clicks before it starts to get firm? Any help appreciated. Cheers. Damien.
great video guys! I was wondering about the finer aspects of suspension tuning when I clicked on this...perfect! One question: Why is Jordi wearing his helmet throughout the whole vid??? Struck me as funny...:)
Hey Jordi, can you take a topic abou bushing and bearing? I had 5piece Fox bushing and it was not working even in hard load, so I had to take round file and make bit more space for it. is it normal?
this is the suspension setup video I have been waiting for. so many people just chuck out good setting or how to set sag or rebound but always in the garage. but no one ever shows a good method of testing and adjusting your suspension on the trail to get it right for the rider. amazing thanks, guys. loving the vids as always :D
@@FOXFACTORY Yeah following this. and using your guess advice to get me set for every rid/race I do. and the bike always ends up feeling good. which in turn ends up making me feel comfortable and faster
Could somebody tell me again how to count? First you fully close the dials. Is afterwords that first position before the first klick one or is the first klick one?
Guys can you describe what you mean when you say from open or from closed? Assuming open is when you turned the dial in the minus direction and adding more compression is towards the plus?
This is great ! I set up my bike today over a set course lap. It made a huge difference and definitely helped me better understand the feeling and effects of Rebound Damping and High and low speed Compression damping. My only suggestion would be to start with Rebound damping - because if it's not right - it's really hard to set anything else up. I also think rebound damping is easier to "feel" for a novice and then it doesn't get in the way of compression damping if you get it right. Thanks again - I am Dialed !!
Great series, enjoyed every video so far! I have a question in regards to LSC and air pressure. My bike feels nicely set up. However there are a very few instances when I find that when I push into an obstacle, in order to pop off, the fork does not give me as much support as I want, it feels like it is a little soft like the fork is going under the bike a little. Same in some fast rough sections. In a situation like this would you recommend increasing air pressure a little, adding air and reducing LSC (so the fork does not become too rough), adding a spacer or something completely different?
Thanks guys for this series !! Thanks Jordi for all your pro advices ! It might be interesting to work with you ! Thanks Connor for the quality of the videos ! And also thanks for all the things you ad on the video such as the location in the beginning ! Why not guys create an app to set up our bike ? with the type of socks and our settings, to make it easier to set from one setting to another ? It's jsut an idea but why not ! Thanks for everything guys ! Cheers to all the team ! Have a good day !
Hey Jordi, if you are forced to service those shocks against your will, blink three times in next episode!
😂
You'd think that was the case, neither looked happy about having to make this video, not a smile was cracked during the making of this. The lords name was used in vain once though.
I geeked out :47 seconds into DIALED S2-EP21 when I thought I had caught a glimpse of how the magic really happens!! I cloned my own copy of said magical paper, and thanks to ya'lls content, my tuning has taken my riding to a new level.
Thank you FOX!!
The whole Dialed series is brilliant. I think it's too easy to look at mtb suspension as some form of magic, but really it's both technical and teachable. Thanks for giving us a view into the inner workings of how our bikes work, and what race support looks like.
Thanks so much for the kind words Kueven, this is exactly what we wanted to convey with this series, happy to hear you are enjoying it! 👊
Yep. I appreciate the follow up to an amazing series. Thanks!
always wear your helmet when adjusting suspension . safety first.
😂
This is one of the very best mountain bike shows going. Just brilliant. Top work guys!
Nicholas Stanfield i totally agree with that! Best explanation ever!
Thank you Nicholas, we took a chance with creating something different with DIALED but comments like this prove viewers and customers like you appreciate this type of content, so happy to hear you are enjoying it, continue to share your thoughts and let us know what you would like covered in future episodes! 👊
I didn’t watch this series religiously until the end of last season. This season started and seems more in depth and polished! Love it !
@@ericsharp5079 We started DIALED in April 2019 at the first World Cup in Maribor.......glad to hear you and so many other are enjoying it!
@@FOXFACTORY I think it' a good mix of geek and fun. Maybe that's why I like it so much...and Jordi, of course.
Jordi the type of dude everyone wants to get an “after ride beer” with.
Pretty much the same method when adjusting dirt bike suspension.
Except that if we were having issues getting a good baseline, we would remove the bike's side panels and videotape a troubling section, then rewatch it in slo-mo.
This would help us see how the wheels were reacting to the terrain and that would help determine if and what internal adjustments might be needed.
Just wondering if anyone else has tried videotaping a section?
100%. So easy with any modern smart phone to see what the wheels/suspension/rider are doing through something like a rock garden.
Hey can you guys do these Jordi setup vids with Loris? His sound effects and Frenglish make for descriptive and useful info...hahahaha But in all seriousness, it'd be cool to have someone to articulate the change in ride feel (something beyond, "it's good", "it was better before") over sections of trail or types of obstacles after adjustments. Thanks!
For sure, a few people have been asking for us to include some "big dogs" like Loris in future episodes. These guys are busy and focused with the World Cups but we will do our best for you guys! 👊
A video with Loris getting his suspension set would probably last hours 😂
And when will Fox swap that air sleeve guide ring made of bronze/teflon to something that doesn't scratch the kashima coating 7:37? I made my own, that doesn't scratch and makes the shock more coil like, but can't say the material, maybe if you hire me...
(But I believe in you if you tell me that it's difficult to be mass produced, as the tolerances have to be really tight. In my case (+/-0.005mm))
Not sure if you are familiar with the vorsprung tuesday tune videos, but according to Steve's dyno testing, the effects of LSR and HSR on the X2 shock are pretty much the same. He says to close the HSR and work with LSR only, then if you reach full open on LSR and need more adjustment, start opening the HSR. Can you confirm/deny this, and explain?
Stephen Daly Do you really need an explanation? You watched the Vorsprung video and saw that they explain it quite extensively.. You know with graphs from the dyno and everything..
Well I see Jordi making suggestion to riders to adjust both hi/lo speed rebound independently, yet if they function the same as explained from vorsprung, why is he not saying the same thing as Steve? Does fox disagree with this method? Just looking for clarification on the real world use of these adjusters.
Not sure why you're trying to shut down a legitimate question before the pros can answer it
I personally prefer to have slower hsr and fast lsr so the bike can track the ground well without bucking on jumps. Might as well get a simpler shock if you dont want to set these independently..
@@sdaly88 I don't think you're going to get a response from Fox on other people's/companies tuning methods or theories. They are going to recommend what was shown in the video. If you want to try the other method do so. Use the same sections of trai, back to back, on the same day, bracketing and recording your results. See if it works better for you, if doesn't, return to the original method and settings.
Very interesting question actually! But after watching many videos about the subject I've realised that there are different philosophy about suspension setup. That said you will notice some common points! Anyway testing, bracketing and go back testing etc...
As many have said , these videos are awesome, particularly the content around set up. It would seem that mountain bike suspension set up is prime to have an app created to provide base settings and to record clicks and pressures, with the potential to add functionality like feel, EG if shock feels harsh on steep drops, add high speed compression. This would allow you to have your own Jordi on the trail with you. Is there any reason why Fox doesn't hasn't developed an app already?
Do you have a video explaining in what scenario you would change hsc, lsc, hsr and lsr. For instance braking bumps feeling harsh on the arms, you would adjust your ...........
Next video... How to setup Connor's helmet straps correctly...
Loris needs to watch this video and start working on his own suspension, lol.
Please, please get Loris involved in these set up videos. He needs a cameo at the very least.
We will work on that, the guy has his hand full at the World Cups but hopefully we can line up something after the season or in-between races! 👊
Generally speaking, what setting changes would you recommend if your front end is sliding more than your rear and/or you want your rear end to slide more?
Front-rear lsc balance I’d say, provided the tyre and handlebar set up aren’t to blame..
Get a bald rear tire.
I so much f...ing loved it this is the kind of videos that us mechanic geeks like to watch. And on top of that we are pretty much learning from the best !
I have learned a lot from your series keep it up and thank you for sharing it!
When setting the sag does one fully open the compression and rebound before setting the sag?
Don’t be afraid to play. You can always change it back.
Only if you write it down first!
Playtime has never been so DIALED! 😂
Top advice Jordi. I learnt a lot from that video. And writing settings down is great tip! #dailed
Glad you found it helpful Toby! let us know if there is anything else you'd like us to cover in future episodes. 👊
Jordy I'm trying to work out how to get the rebound dialed in with regard to air spring pressure. I'm 6 clicks on my Fox Rhythm 34 Fork. 1 volume spacer. 90 PSI rendering about 24% sag. I'm using about 80 to 85% of for travel on a variety of trails with some small 1-3' drops. I'm going to let out 2.5 to 3 lbs of air on the fork and wondering if I would need to adjust the rebound, considering there will be slightly more travel with a slightly softer 'spring'
In general: with less air pressure you need more rebound. 2-3 psi from 90 is not much, so you might only change it by one click if you were happy with the rebound at 90 psi
Thank you. I will be trying this soon with my Fox 36 Grip 2.
Anybody know what's jordi's helmet? Looks great
you said in the video that HSC is set to 15 clicks from close (36). How does this compare to the information in the company's configuration guide that the HSC scope is only 8 clicks away from closing? because now I'm confused...
My favourite series by far. Great content even outside of WC racing. Hope you have something for us during winter.
thanks guys. by the way right now: 551 thumbs up , ZERO thumbs down. NICE
Clearly people are into getting their suspension DIALED, we are working on more of these types of videos for you guys, stay tuned and be sure to subscribe! 👊
5 clicks rebound from closed to open?
that's hella slow! is this really correct?
I consider "open" as "no damping at all"
Hi,
I ride a megatower using a fox DHX2 2019 and a fox 36 2019 160mm grip 2 factory on it.
Just having some difficulty to set the DHX2, a little beat harsh at rock gardens, and the fox 36 a little low sensitivity (bar time at rockgardens and brake bumps), also the bike tend to rear kick on jumps. Can you please help me?
I'm 1,82cm, 85kg, intermediate rider. Terrain with rocks, gravel, small mid jumps (less than 1,60m lip).
I'm using:
DHX2
SLS 500lbs x 2,75 spring (34% sag).
HSC all open
LSC 3 from all open
HSR 14 from all open
LSR 11 from all open
FOX 36 factory grip2
81 psi
HSC all open
LSC 7 from all close
HSR 2 from all open
LSR 9 from all open
🇺🇲Ok, Guys just saw your Vid, added to positive and it leveled out too 200psi, I'm usually 195psi Fox Float RSV 2X . . Custom tune 10 ? Pivot I'll take it for a spin tomorrow AM👍,lol it feels better balanced !🇺🇲
I feel its probably just personal preferrance but I like to start with everything wide open and close as I progress in tuning. Also running the Smashpot in my Zeb for ultra sensitivity, traction and confidence. I want as much absorption and as little front wheel deflection as possible for my region and I found the only way for that to be possible is to run coils in my forks. I kind of know based on which trail I ride how much low speed or high speed to add and even HBO. None the less I geek out and love finding ways to improve my set up. Its apparent when you see me ride cuz the bike just eats and stays so composed. And I'm referring to a 60lb Turbo Levo. 170/ 160 with the Cascade Link and coil rear shock as well.
Late to game with this series, but it does mean I can binge watch! These setup videos are amazing, Jordi makes it so simple to understand.
Today i took jordi advice video and i did it and what a difference thanks for making this videos you all are the BEST ...😎👍👊🤟
It’s actually 7cm until it equalizes chambers from the fox spec x2
call me nutts but doesnt the grip 2 HSC only have 8 clicks? Noticed Connor had 15 clicks on HSC?
I've got a fox 36 factory 160....ive had problems with it feeling like it is vibrating madly over smooth fast terrain...to the point I have to slow down.No one seems to be able to work out the problem...Im 200 pounds and ride hard and aggressive...no matter what pressure or compression I use it's still the same...this this the second bike the fork has been on with the same results...services are up to date.....HHHEELLPP...lol
I thought 36’s and 38’s only have 8clicks of HSC? This have had 15clicks setting 🤔
Thank u... just, thank you
Thanks for the help Jordi!
Jordy, can I expect suspension to feel the same at my preferred settings every time? Will this change with the life of the shocks? And how does basic maintenance effect how my shock at preferred seatings will feel! Love this channel and the sharing of your knowledge! Episode 3 should be with Loris!!
Dialed
Any word on how those adjustments relate to each other? I’m curious whether I should use a spacer when bottoming out too often on big hits or up the hsc a bit. Guessing the spacer would result in a more poppy bike whereas the heavier damping would deaden the bike and would also affect the entire stroke.
Also I know roughly about the lsc and hsc but what ones are best to have what. Is it better to have more clicks or less
Be interested to know what the rider felt with the given changes e.g. what did it do when hitting roots, was it more playful, did it impact turn in etc.
Jordi you’re videos on suspension are so easy to understand thanks for making this episode hope that there are many more to come 👍👍👍
Thanks for he kind words Theo, that's why we call him the wizard 🧙♂️We definitely have more where this came from, stay tuned! 👊
I found out, if you are weak and cant compress the shock controlled, you can sit on the bike and pull up on the rear wheel slowly.
I want to know which employee at rockshox thumbed the episode down...
This videos are gold👍🏽
Thanks guys
Great vid and very well explained. Very thought out. Thanks for taking the time to help us all.
Holy crap I was just suggesting this yesterday in the comments and here the video is today! You guys and gals are the best! I can't think of any other sport I've ever seen where the people at the pinnacle of the sport share such detailed information.
Awesome to hear! We love the suggestions for video topics, keep it up.
@@FOXFACTORY Apologies if this has been covered before. One thing that has puzzled me is how you set high speed and low speed settings independently given that the dials seem to move in unison?
Great thanks Jordi,very helpful
You're welcome, glad you found it helpful! 👊
Question:
If I add more Vol Spacer to the fork at the same pressure will the fork handle better at breaking bumps? I assume that it is more sensitive at the beginning stroke and more harsh to the end because of progressivity.
I would like to divide this question into
- braking
- no braking
What I want at my fox 40 is better handling at breaking bumps. The problem I see is. Usually at breaking bumps (not always - different skill levels and so different breaking points) you have to break, so you re deep into travel...
- more progressivity, harsher at breaking bumps...
- less progressivity, better at breaking bumps...
Is there I possible right answer?
Thanks in advance
It might actually make it worse to add volume spacers. How's your sag? You might need to bump up the pressure a bit and reduce the HSC if you're getting beat up over the braking bumps. I've settled on less spacers & less HSC while adding pressure and it has increased the sensitivity over high speed chatter. If you ride too deep in the suspension travel it will feel very harsh.
Thanks. Very great answer! Will test it
top video, cheers
Every time I watch one of your videos I end up ''puzzling'' and I end up usually where I started, but today after seeing how many spacers have you used in shock (Connor is same weight as me) I tried even bigger in my DPX2 0.86 and hell yeah!!! I struggled with fork it was either too harsh on trail or too soft in bigger compressions, couldn't get it quite right. Also rear shock seemed to be bottoming bit more than fork. I guess more support on back brings more weight on fork, so none of them work ''overtime'', I guess...Now bike feels balanced, I dont know why I didnt put bigger spacer there earlier..oh well..Thanks guys :-D love it keep 'em coming
This is what we love to hear! Glad the video helped and we will keep it coming.
Jordi is the Roger DeCoster of MTB Suspension
Hey Jason, what about Ozark season 5? 😅
Super helpful video, looking forward to the next one!
imo, the easiest way to teach anyone to dial their suspension would be explaining what is actually happening when you open or close the adjuster knobs and how the bike behaves/changes behavior in consequence of the adjustment.
if you know what will happen when you close the damper you will know whether you want it opened or closed.
We plan on shooting a "Part 3" here in Lenzerheide where Jordi explains each individual adjustment in detail. Stay tuned and make sure to subscribe so you don't miss anything! 👊
why did the guy look really annoyed about Jordi helping him
Nice Video! Maybe it overheard it, but do i set the SAG with all Diales in the Middle or fully openend or closed?
open LSC and set sag with the airpressure..
Thanks, looking forward to the next episode!
Great video guys. Very informative
I find the fox suggested rebound settings to be way too slow
Does Fox use data acquisition? Maybe use the tech in the live value system to create data acquisition specific shock to 'dial' the settings, then flip back to your race shock. The data seems to have really helped the specialised team this year.
Nah. It's just Bruni riding out of his mind. If it was only due to the setup Finn would've smashed it as well.
the one dislike rides on rockshox
The Fox Shox's will be selling like little hot cakes from these videos.
The DIALED crew would love some fresh hot cakes! 😂
Awesome video can't wait for the next one.
Why so complicated to dial suspension
Thanks, guys, for this video ! 😁👍 You're awesome ! ✨
We're glad it helped out!
Hey guys, I have a 2020 factory grip2. My high speed compression bob is pretty hard to turn, especially from fully clockwise. Fork is basically brand new. Is this normal?
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I got the same helmet bro love the Bell Sixer
bracketing, such a simple method of finding improvements and its not just applicable to suspension but most things that have some form of adjustments, of the top of my head ive done the same in gaming and screen colour calibrations
so true! 👊
I run the high and low speed rebound 2 clicks from fully closed on all my rear shocks. You can't convince me otherwise. Hits Crabapple no problems.
Nice video! Can you explain why you start from lsc first and the rebound is a last? Should it be opposite? And in case if I don’t have volume spacers is it correct to just pump more air? I understand it will mess the sag but I believe it will be firmly and with volume spacers fork remains soft but with less bottom effect? Thank you.
Really good stuff
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Good watch... 👍
Nice one Jordi!
Hey guys, I am having trouble finding the fully closed position on my fork HSC (Fox 36 170mm/29 Grip 2), it does not seem to have a firm stop, it just keeps clicking in and just gets firmer to turn. It does have a solid stop when wound fully open though so can you tell me how many clicks from full open would be to fully closed? Manul seems to say 16 clicks of adjustment but when I count in from fully open it does not seem even close to stopping, it has another 10 clicks before it starts to get firm? Any help appreciated. Cheers. Damien.
great video guys! I was wondering about the finer aspects of suspension tuning when I clicked on this...perfect! One question: Why is Jordi wearing his helmet throughout the whole vid??? Struck me as funny...:)
thank you for this.
Hey Jordi, can you take a topic abou bushing and bearing? I had 5piece Fox bushing and it was not working even in hard load, so I had to take round file and make bit more space for it. is it normal?
As the new owner of a Meta AM 29 this is exactly the video I NEEDED to see. Thank you so much.
this is the suspension setup video I have been waiting for. so many people just chuck out good setting or how to set sag or rebound but always in the garage. but no one ever shows a good method of testing and adjusting your suspension on the trail to get it right for the rider. amazing thanks, guys. loving the vids as always :D
Thank you for your support! Good to hear the videos are helping you get dialed.
@@FOXFACTORY Yeah following this. and using your guess advice to get me set for every rid/race I do. and the bike always ends up feeling good. which in turn ends up making me feel comfortable and faster
Q: Do you always put the cap back on the rebound knob when you're bracketing? Asking for a friend. :D
Good stuff Jordi !
Awesome video! Would you be able to do the same on a 2021 x2? Clickers are different than the 2020
Hey. If you have compression and rebound settings dialed and you add or remove volume spacers, do the settings before change??
Could somebody tell me again how to count? First you fully close the dials. Is afterwords that first position before the first klick one or is the first klick one?
Great vid, thx.
Guys can you describe what you mean when you say from open or from closed? Assuming open is when you turned the dial in the minus direction and adding more compression is towards the plus?
This is great ! I set up my bike today over a set course lap. It made a huge difference and definitely helped me better understand the feeling and effects of Rebound Damping and High and low speed Compression damping. My only suggestion would be to start with Rebound damping - because if it's not right - it's really hard to set anything else up. I also think rebound damping is easier to "feel" for a novice and then it doesn't get in the way of compression damping if you get it right. Thanks again - I am Dialed !!
What’s the best fox shock to run on the Santa Cruz Hightower V2
Great series, enjoyed every video so far!
I have a question in regards to LSC and air pressure. My bike feels nicely set up. However there are a very few instances when I find that when I push into an obstacle, in order to pop off, the fork does not give me as much support as I want, it feels like it is a little soft like the fork is going under the bike a little. Same in some fast rough sections.
In a situation like this would you recommend increasing air pressure a little, adding air and reducing LSC (so the fork does not become too rough), adding a spacer or something completely different?
does that negative and positive air chamber thing apply to all shocks? is Jordi cycling through the travel as he adds air? kinda confused by this part
Jordi you’re a busy man so thanks so much for taking the time to teach us, it’s very much appreciated! Thank you Fox, I love your products!
Thanks guys for this series !! Thanks Jordi for all your pro advices ! It might be interesting to work with you ! Thanks Connor for the quality of the videos ! And also thanks for all the things you ad on the video such as the location in the beginning !
Why not guys create an app to set up our bike ? with the type of socks and our settings, to make it easier to set from one setting to another ? It's jsut an idea but why not !
Thanks for everything guys ! Cheers to all the team ! Have a good day !
@FOX do you start counting clicks from the hard stop or from the 1st click in?
Thanks Jordi, yes its pretty simple, but key is as you said, where are you now, where did make change, now test it.
Thanks jordi for such a technical video your bracketing on suspension makes a lot of sense 👍keep making videos like this cheers mate