Thanks for the excellent video on the Drone Beacon module. Received my module and reconfigured it per your video. The reconfig went just as described and the location is not visible using the OpenDroneID app. I'll feel a lot safer knowing my location isn't visible while complying with RID.
You forgot to mention that the best way to attach the RID module is with at least seven layers of aluminum body-tape, making sure to smooth it down so there are no gaps around the module. 😛
Just got my 107. I've been wanting to press my old Phantom 3 into professional service, knew I needed RemoteID, but was concerned about non-law enforcement having access to pilot location data. Your RemoteID module, and the configuration settings gives me all the confidence I need to move forward. Will be ordering the RID unit after I click comment. Thanks,
Got my Drone Beacon module, (using your discount code), flashed the firmware, and did the configuration. All very simple and straightforward. Thanks for a very helpful video.
Perfect,,a cheaper solution for a problem I've heard about...what if I told you I've heard people say they were going to flood the airwaves with signals from modules in cars while on the freeway...leaving them on permanently in spots....while camping in the forest or fishing the local lakes and rivers.....everywhere they are not flying drones.....🥴
I'd say let them do it, this wont get policed anyway, it's merely going to be used retrospectively to pin a crime on a pilot that happened to be in that location
I suppose they're going to spend the rest of their sorry lives running around, keeping that "flood" of batteries charged? Not to mention all their non-existent money they'll be spending on the RIDs in the first place!
That is great. What would be greater is if the manufacturers would allow that alteration on onboard RID, or perhaps make that the default setting when shipped. Love your videos, your content is always informative and concise.
Finally a workable solution. I was so concerned about thieves and bad people knowing my location that I was willing to go rogue and completely dark or drop the hobby altogether. My safety comes first.
I plan to use this on my phantom 4 pro if they don’t fix it with firmware (maybe even turn it off I’d they do). I’ll probably still go with my “if Karen can find me” plan as well though. Police body cam, high vis vest with “FAA certified remote pilot, do not disturb”, and my usual openly carried full sized side arm. Maybe even pepper spray
Everyone will do this!!!!!!! Keep making videos so we can do exactly what you're doing. We need you and we need your help to do this. We don't want people spying on us.
@thegunsngloryshow Understandable, and if that information were available to law enforcement or FAA to confirm what/who is doing what would be fine. As a side note, rest assured, the wide angle lenses can not see much detail at all at any height, much, MUCH less than people think. That being said, allowing the general public to find the real time location of the the pilot, and enabling a confrontation, many times heated, and sometimes even with weapons, is unacceptable. This is a recipe for disaster, and someone will get hurt or killed for doing something innocent and legal.
@thegunsngloryshow Indeed, remote ID as it is now is problematic honestly unsafe, hence my attempt to level the field, at least a little, by working with Bluemark. To your question, "... I own 38 acres...", the answer is that the _property_ ownership is irrelevant to the FAA, as FAA has jurisdiction of ALL _airspace_ both controlled and uncontrolled. So if it's in the airspace it's controlled by the FAA, and if it is in FAA jurisdiction all the rules apply for operating in that airspace. This is what allows any airplane, helicopter and hot air balloon to operate over your property with impunity. If your flight is indoors, then the FAA has no say. I know some will say "how will the FAA know" if I'm over my own property, and this is a fair point, but if a medical helicopter has to divert or if the drone flies away into the path of an airplane for instance, that's when any violations will all pile on, IMHO.
I really appreciate that this beacon is now safe to use for our safety from fly haters who take us the wrong way and want to fight or shoot down my drone. It’s good that only faa or law enforcement can see. Thanks
Great info! My only problem with remote id was Karen and Ken having the ability to see my location. They have no legitimate reason to be given this information. For the self appointed members of the drone police, it's an open invitation you harass law abiding drone pilots. Thanks for informing the community about this product!!
Thank you for that information, That is the way it should be, I usually fly my drone in a relatively quite area, I don't mind law enforcement knowing where I am or what Ii am doing I have nothing to hide, but I feel unsafe knowing anyone can find me weather the have good or bad intentions Thhank you Bluemark.
Thanks for sharing! I completely agree and BlueMark was great in working with us to get this set up. I hope the rest of the industry takes note and trends in this direction!
@@andrewdrone since clearly the FAA doesn’t care about that, based on what the FAA rep has said during interviews you know what you need to do or rather in this case NOT DO…
I will take it a step further as I HATE that bs argument people use, "well if you have nothing to hide then you should be ok with cops knowing where you are or what you are doing" This is total bunk. Its just a nonsense argument used to infringe on people and overstep authority they shouldnt or dont have.
This is great news! Something I'll definitely look into after seeing how this plays out with people getting accosted for Karens calling drones in as "not complying" because they can't see the drone on the app and LEOs then accosting a pilot if thsy don't believe they are complying. I've had similar experiences in the automotive field skirting laws, completely on the legal side, but having overzealous police automatically assume and ticket me as if I were in the wrong. Wasting my time, their time, and tax payer money.
Thanks! They can always come to the channel, happy to educate if they need to know how the rules and the technology to make it work! Thinking most LEOs have better things to do... 😎
I have a 107 and do gig work with my mini3 , and gopro equipped cinewhoop. I plan on being mostly in compliance with everything used for work related flights. However I won't stop flying my 20 gram whoops because I didn't put a I'd on them.They really need to make some changes. I would go broke if I put one on all my quads, and planes
Indeed, this is not a well liked rule, and for good reason. Some will comply, but IMO there will be mass non-compliance for sure. It will be the equivalent of driving 5 mph over the speed limit, technically not legal, but nobody cares except for that one old lady wagging her finger at you as you drive by... Just sayin' 😎
You have always been a voice of reason when it comes to this emotional issue and the only thing that I believe (besides cost) has been an issue is the Karen and criminal problem. This product seems to cover that 100%. Thank you for doing this great video.
Hello Keith, thank you for this excellent update on these RID modules. I was looking into them when your video popped up on my notifications; perfect timing. I especially like the firmware changes to keep the pilot's location hidden from those without reason to know where we are. I jumped to the US Links to purchase the modules for my older but beneficial drones. Thank You!
Remote ID and having the government in my pants… Me no like! The fact that you can keep the average Joe or Karen in this case LOL from seeing your position big thumbs up. Thanks for all your information for not only keeping us out of legal trouble, but keeping us safe.
I saw this comment on another channel. I wish I could take credit for it, but I cant. PLEASE READ!! It's informative, ABSOLUTELY correct, and worth the time to read. A few facts: The FAA is not an "enforcement" agency. Local Law Enforcement Officers are NOT Federal RULE enforcement agents. I am a Part 107 pilot since 2016. I've had every type of Karen and Dumb Cop interaction you can imagine. Let me explain to everyone EXACLTY what to do when a drone cop makes contact with you and starts demanding crap. (Unless you live in a stop and ID state or are operating a motor vehicle on a public road) Police cannot demand a darn thing. When cops come up to me and start talking, I make eye contact ask their name and badge number then tell them I want my lawyer present for all questions. (5th Amendment right) Then ask for a supervisor (they are required to get one when asked). After that I refuse to say a word, except to ask "Am I being detained?" and "Let me know when you are done detaining me." You are NOT required to give your Trust Card/Part 107, SSN Card, ID Card, DL, etc to any cop just because they demand it. Cop 101: In order to demand ID a cop must have Reasonable Articulable Suspicion that you are breaking a LAW!!!! Not a Federal Rule. I refuse to show them anything. (4th Amendment right) I have my drones all registered. The number is on the bottom in the same grey color as the drone so tiny its hard to read, but if holding the drone in your hand it can be clearly seen. This is done so they can't take a picture or see the number. Cops are NOT allowed to touch or seize your drone even for a second. Again, that's a 4th Amendment right violation. 100% of the time cops are called on me I leave without giving them anything, ever... period. If a cop has a Remote ID app, and sees you flying and notices your drone is not broadcasting... again, local law enforcement officers are not federal rule enforcement agents. Just ask the cop this, "what penal code violation is "not complying with remote ID"? Done. Now they can and will try to see what car you are driving to ID you that way. Being patient works. I've found that cops get bored and leave after 15-20mins of watching me to see what car I am driving. Keep in mind, I follow every single FAA rule. I even do things above and beyond what they require; marking landing sites with orange cones, having a lipo rated fire extinguisher on site at all times, etc. I will not however comply with RemoteID. That will only make the Karen situation worse. Using your own analogy; Do local cops enforce FDA rules/policies? Of course not. Just like they don't stop people using cellphones to make sure they are FCC compliant. I am not a lawyer, nor to I play one on TV. David Lane (Denver, CO) is my lawyer and we are ready for the FAA. ** the following was my reply to T** before he blocked it: @Tim McKay NOTHING to follow at all. There is ZERO connection between local law enforcement and federal rules. ZERO! The idea that local cops are going to start busting kids at parks flying toys without RemoteID is never going to happen. Just like local cops don't enforce building codes/rules. Cities are required to have and maintain an entire dept of employees to enforce building codes or even city codes (like your grass is too long). Question - how many people have been arrested by a cop for their grass being too long? Now if they FAA wants to hire rule enforcement agents.... will that ever happen? Nope. One other thing... I've been flying remote aircraft since the mid 80's. Quadcopters since 2013. This isn't "new and evolving". Its OLD and evolving. YEARS and YEARS of dji style drones everywhere. How many have killed someone? Seriously injured? How many people have been arrested by cops for flying a drone (that wasn't in a park where a city has a ordinance)?????? How many drones have crashed into manned aircraft? I know of one. It was a cop flying a drone into a police helicopter. We have this thing called history we can rely on T**. History has shown us that the FAA is a joke! Let me drop another one on ya T**. The Federal Post Office!!!! They have their own enforcement division as well. Why is that? Because local cops are not federal rule enforcement agents. Some cities have signed/voted on agreements with their post offices. This is so local cops can enter federal property and enforce LOCAL LAWS. So if I enter a post office and ship a lipo battery without marking that on the box - I just violated a federal rule. I get caught. What happens? Does the post master call local police? Of course not. Even with a signed letter of cooperation between the Federal Govt (Post Office) and local PD only allows the PD to enforce what they are mandated to enforce.... LAWS, not rules. Those agreements are for people breaking local LAWS on postal property (such as disorderly conduct). Meaning even if a city enters into an "understanding" about FAA regulations with the FAA, local cops can still only enforce LAWS. (I mention this because some cities have already tried - right Mayor of Telluride, CO?) Now if pilots choose to waive their civil rights and comply with cops out of fear... I can't help the sheep.
Well done review of the module. Overview of RID , and demonstration of the "hack". Good information. Karen/Ken's don't need to know where I am. Law enforcement, sure. My issue with this module, way too expensive. On the plus side, I can easily transfer it between my builds. Yes, I build my fpv quads. And I beat the snot out of them. Is that thing durable? And it's too big for my 3.5" builds. Thank you for sharing, hopefully as we get closer to September we'll have more options. Happy flying everyone. 🤓
As far as modules, I think this is good that at least one is looking to address one of the biggest problems with Remote ID. Cost is still a bit much, but for a hobbyist, buying only one that could be moved helps. It does look a bit big though, and durability is definitely going to be a problem with these things. For those wanting to comply, this looks to be a better option than the others I have seen thus far. Maybe the FAA should give vouchers for the cost difference from what they promised to what we actually have? LOL yeah, that'll never happen
Thanks again, Keith. I received my module a couple of months ago, but finally got around to setting it up, reconfiguring it and updating my FAA registration. Followed your video step, by step....helped me alot! Much appreciated.
Outstanding video.....as always!! Thank you so much for all you do and for all the vital information you share. This is the first comment I have ever placed on ANY website. I realize that my comments herein are obvious and inconsequential and repetitive of most other commenters. However, I felt the need to write this just to ensure that you realize how much your efforts are appreciated by countless silent but enlightened viewers like myself.
Very interesting but perhaps a bit complicated for us non-super techy folks. Hopefully, we can have all this in order by September. Surely, I hate having to deal with remote ID. However, I now have several sub 250g drones but as soon as you add an extended battery or even a 3-mile compliant light on top of it, you now are over 250g! Sucks! So oh well. Also have a Mavic Air 2 that I am considering selling but not sure just yet. Thanks for the great info for us to learn.
I also have a ma2 although I fly it much less now after having been on the business end of a 12 gauge because a gun nut freak show was paranoid I was spying on him while I was inspecting MY chimney. After my 3 batteries die I will scrap the drone most likely. It’s not safe to fly drones here in Murica…
@@0utcast I hope you called the cops and had the idiot jailed. I'm all for firearms freedoms but thats being unreasonable and shouldnt be tolerated period.
I do a lot of IOT device programming and I can say it's a lot like our vtx rules. It's perfectly fine to broadcast under low power, ike Bluetooth or network ssid, etc., on public frequencies. Signal boosters are widely available. All legal up to a certain point of power. Idk what power level that is but it would require specialized equipment requiring a license and be more expensive than most would spend the money on. What would create legal issues would be bypassing encryption or broadcasting on private frequencies. Which wouldn't apply here or every rid module would have licensing requirements and/or encryption keys. That said, it is the government. If you piss them off they will find a crime.
Indeed it makes sense, I agree. If you're handy and want to stick the PCB on/in the drone and power it with the drone it's down to $119, which is better than the $300 that we started with, but of course still might be inhibitive for some and they'll probably just not comply...
Excellent video. I have a DB-120 on order. I assume what you select WLAN BEACON under the RADIO tab, you're turning off is the data transmission that a standard cell phone App can copy and display. You mention Law Enforcement and the FAA have different detection equipment that can still monitor this RF ID Device with the parameters you mentioned being turned off. Just curious, when selecting WLAN BEACON mode, what RF ID signals can the authorities still monitor on the DB-120? In other words, how did you determine that by selecting WLAN BEACON, the DB-120 remains legal to use in the US?
Thanks! The WiFi is not turned off, just the way it responds to requests. Professional scanners have more robust signal scanning and don't need the specific signals that are needed by consumer cell phones. According to the manufacturer of the device, if configured as noted it is a compliant broadcast according to the rule as it still meets the approved FAA DOC as submitted.
I did just purchase the RID for my MavicAir2 using your promo code (Thanks for the buck $1) Your video is clear and was helpful for this purchase. I’ll return to refresh my memory about the ROM update steps and HACK once the RID arrives.
Thanks for the feedback! I wish the discount was better for you, and directly from the original manufacturer (BlueMark) we did get a much better discount, but from the local supplier in the US it is a bit stingy. They did save us shipping from the Netherlands and reasonable shipping so not all bad I guess... 😎
I'm in the UK and mostly fly sub 250g but I have a bunch of planes that are over limit, they are gliders and scale war birds and sticking that thing on would spoil looks and performance. No one doing anything nefarious will comply , it's just dumb. Nice to see a work around for those willing to comply though, defo makes it safer.
This video is epic for me. I have an older EXO Cinemaster 2 that works great and I just couldn't justify some of the Remote ID module prices to continue using it for anything beyond recreational use. Now that there is an option to remain compliant, but thwart the casual snooper, this option is amazing. This should be a feature of any remote ID module. With time running out, I think this is the way I will go. In the future, my drone upgrades will have it on-board, but I'm in that awkward transitional phase with an older drone that I want to keep flying Part 107.
U know what's crazy is u actually need a amature radio license to broadcast these so it's so messed up I just don't give a fck. Nobody is gonna find me anyways if I don't want to be found. I got a sunroof and tinted windows.
Hi Allen I just got my first Drone (DJI mini2se) for fathers day. Son got this for me so we can have some fun just flying in the park. I have been watching You Tube info. about these rules, license & certificate I was made to get the Trust by the son. Now I need to buy this so people & cops who hate drones can come and give a big fine or steal it? This is also for RC airplanes, this is going to be pricey just to have fun. Great video!
Glad it is helpful, and thanks for taking the time to comment! If you are flying only for fun, the Mini2 SE is below the weight limit which requires registration so you don't need to add any modules, and it is not transmitting on it's own, so you're good! Correct, this is for RC planes also, but only those that are above 249g OR flown for commercial (part 107) purposes... 👍
That's alright if you don't understand. It's a hack because we created it, causing it to exist at all. It is now "just" a configuration setting because I worked with the manufacturer to have it included for everybody with a firmware option. You're welcome.
That is correct, same process but different firmware. Note the db121pcb does have remote antenna and GPS, just lacks a battery. th-cam.com/video/GJBNqKafe-Q/w-d-xo.html
I appreciate that you've gone to the effort here so people afraid to non comply can continue to fly. (that's catchy) I do wonder though, why not make a phone app that puts out the signal and save the weight on the quad. Nobody is going to know the signal comes from the quad and not your phone anyway. It can just randomize the GPS and altitude data, so long as you're fling nearby what's the harm?
I hope other like DJI offer this as an option. As long as it's compliant, I love this feature, especially against thugs. But I feel like if Karen sees a drone but no RemoteID, she's going to go running to the police because the operator must be breaking the law!
This is such a great idea! I hope more RID Module manufacturers get on board with this....I'm trying to get the word out on this so gave you a shout-out on my channel as well for making us aware. A step in the right direction...thx!
Thank you! Absolutely agree, trying to DO SOMETHING, and BlueMark was kind enough to listen to my perspective and work to implement a version that at least moves the needle in the right direction. Hopefully we set a precedent that catches on everywhere in the industry! You Heard It Here First! lol 🤙
Thank You. Your work with DroneBeacon firmware was right on the money. Followed your instructions and the db120 is not visible to the civilian tracking apps. Again, Thank You!
Outstanding video! It would be nice if the FAA cared about these potentially volatile issues surrounding this, but I fully expect them to be overwhelmed by the Karen's and others reporting drone pilots and events and interfering with law abiding drone operators as a result of their rule.
Thank you for this information. I have a older drone and everything you covered in this video will help me. My drone has about 20 min flight time. How much less will my flight time be you think? Or will this time vary by drone manufacturer?
Thanks! My guess is it won't effect it very much under normal circumstances. Most larger drones have power to spare so they can fight the wind so maybe just a tiny bit of time. If putting it on a mini drone I can see it knocking it down a bit more... 😎
Thanks for this video. I have been flying RC aircraft since the mid '70s. As much as Remote ID is a hassle I understand how and why the FAA has had to resort to this. I am thankful that the AMA has worked with the FAA and has created the FRIAs so we can continue to fly at our AMA sanctioned flying field. I will be purchasing one of these modules to have with me when I fly at a non-FRIA site.
Great video and good information. I am guessing $149 is far too expensive for most casual hobby flyers of planes and quadcopters. That's the cost of one of my entire planes for example! And then or course, this company obviously didn't expect the demand because the DB120 is back ordered.
Thanks! Indeed, $149 isn't cheap, but the last one we worked with was $300, so that's progress. After our video we sold them out at least 3 times already... I thought they had more in this week, maybe they're sold out again... 😎
Karen will simply report that she has a drone in sight and she can't see it with her app to the cop and he/she will be on you faster than a speeding busybody.
All drones do not need to broadcast Remote ID and are still perfectly legal. So Karen will report a potentially legal activity, then will end up crying in her safe space with her therapy dog... 😅
Cop: "How is it harassing you?" Karen: "It's... flying... way up hundreds of feet and I can still see it!" Cop: "Mmmm-kay, we'll go 'check it out" Also Cop: Goes to buy a donut.
Maybe can still use a cellphone with an external USB OTG WLAN card that supports monitor mode. Probably won't stop nearby monitoring karens using an indoor computer setup from handing out locations to others. WLAN card the has monitor mode required.
Thanks for this info! Wondering if any of the other RID's have this same configuration possibility? Didn't like the size and looks of this one, and the gray Potensic looks better on my FIMI S8 SE 2020 but don't know if there is a work around like the Blue Mark's.
Thanks! Nope, this is unique to the BlueMark. They are the only ones willing to go through the substantial extra work qualifying this version. Indeed I don't care for the form factor either, but...
Thanks, That's Excellent! They said they would start including it in the next versions, and to be honest I heard Alien Drones sold them out! Was the new firmware configured as in this video or a different default?
Good info, what Im looking for is the functionality to log the flight path on a map and altitude. I belong to a rc club and would like a reference to where our flight boundaries are from the pilots stand viewpoint. To record it and view it after flight would be ideal. Any thoughts?
Hi, Thanks for your contribution to the firmware enhancements. If I deactivate the "Reply to active WLAN scanning" function, will that prevent me locating my unit with my own phone when I land off-site? If so, could the firmware be modified to allow a specific mobile phone access to the signal. That would allow the pilot access whilst excluding the "Karens".
Keith, great video! I just ordered the Drone Beacon module. I have the Exo Drones Blackhawk II Pro, where do you suggest mounting the Drone Beacon module? It might fit on top in front of the battery, but that puts it very far forward. Center it front to back and Velcro it to the battery? Thoughts? Also I was looking at the HugeRock X7 drone table from one of the videos you did. Any suggestions how to mount it to the Exo Drones Blackhawk II Pro controller? Thanks
Thanks! This module is a tight fit on the BH2 Pro as I have on on there as well. I ended up on the battery instead of the front. A little more inconvenient but just costs a bit more velcro. 😎 I use a couple of different versions of the tablet holder that I happen to have from the mavic pro days amzn.to/3wKYAmb and I'm able to tighten them up a but with some well placed rubber bands, I suppose I should search out a tighter one, but if you're not worried about fiddling a bit it works ok...
How would the RID module work as a tracking device? Say I'm out on a photo shoot and lay my gear bag down, but I have a RID device in it broadcasting my location. Somebody grabs my bag, and if I'm within range can track it? It's not what the device was intended to do but would it work, why not? If I used an external power source, it would xmit forever? I'd just want to make sure that if it was in my checked airline bag, it wasn't accidentally left on. I've held off buying a RID for my Phantom 4 since it has a mechanical problem, but once I fix it, to be compliant I'll need to look into one of these gadgets. Jim
If you're doing nothing wrong, this is unlikely. There are many drones flying that do not NEED remote ID, so not seeing a RID signal does not mean there is anything non-compliant going on, and keep in mind it IS transmitting a compliant RID signal so you would be compliant with RID. If they simply are anti-drone they would be more likely to charge a pilot with reckless flying or trespassing, which ARE under their purview, rather than RID. If they are serious about RID, they will likely have the right equipment already (LEO can't just pull out their personal cell phone and start scanning to determine compliance with anything, they'll have the right equipment) and the broadcast will show up just fine.
This is a very clever idea! I like it. Doesn't resolve all the issues (eg remote ID on part 107 micro quads and still needing to purchase fairly expensive RID module) but it's good!
My DB12 is in hand and I’m trying to get things set up but want to do like you did with first seeing what it broadcasts in factory config then after reconfigure. I can’t find a single app that tracks drones without subscription, purchase, or other data collection BS. Any recommendations?
@@OpenCarryUSMC DroneScanner and OpenRemote ID are the two free apps I used and was able to see the broadcast. If you have Apple I don't think there is a free app available right now, something about Apple's configuration makes scanning difficult.
@@AlienDrones I do have apple. I bought the DB120 so I'll configure it to prevent Karens from seeing my drone. Not sure what I'll do when I get a new drone with built in RID but I've already gotten a police body cam and will carry some little printouts of Oregon state law which makes it a felony to interfere with a drone pilot.
Lot easier to make a small case in the form of a faraday cage. Remote ID final ruling states the module has to TRANSMIT the data, there is zero requirement for it to be capable of being received X distance from the UAS.
Great idea for the module as well as information. Since you're working with the manufacturer, I would encourage you to have them design a more aerodynamic form. That module you displayed screams "maximum air resistance." How long does that battery last in the module? I have 4 batteries for my drone which typically lasts about 45 minutes total. Need to make sure the module lasts longer than the drone batteries. Thanks again for the video.
Great video. Looking at the Db 120 site, I'm a bit confused. Is the Db 120 all I need (complete system) or do I also need the transponder to be complete and legal?
So to be clear all drones need to have this these type of modules? I watched a previous video of yours and was under the impression that only categories 1-4 was required to have these.
You're mixing a couple of things. First, the simplest way to explain the requirement for Remote ID is that if the drone (or yourself) is registered for any reason (required or not) then it needs remote ID. If it is registered and it doesn't have built in "standard" remote ID, then it will need a module like the one in this video (there are other models of course). Second, the category 1-4 is referring to the "flights over people rule" drone classifications, and one of the requirements for the flights over people rule requires _every_ category of drone (1-4) to have remote ID installed. Hope this helps!
I was thinking more about this... It makes sense we should be able to see who looked up our drone when we're flying since they can find all our info, like our name and stuff. We should be able to know who looked us up in reverse as well. It only makes sense. The apps should be membership based imo, so you at least have to have an account and info on your account to look us up. That would increase our security at least somewhat. We can know if the fbi or cia are looking us up or some shit at very least.
I only have the details for this one, and we added options to make it react this way. If others have similar firmware and options like this that can be adjusted, and accessed by the end user then in theory it should work on more devices. IMO if manufacturers do this, even on built in modules, they'll sell more drones than those who don't...
Hey great video very informative. But I have a question about connecting to the internet for the remote ID To be able to broadcast. I have an area that is located in West Virginia and it’s between mountains many mountains to be exact. And this area doesn’t have cellular service or wifi. When I fly into the area I have to wait until I get back into city limits before getting any signal to my phone. So I don’t see how remote ID can possibly work in locations such as this? I am however able to connect to GPS satellites with my DJI drones. And they still work in this area I just don’t have any internet connection.
Hello and thanks for the question! This is a common misconception as there is no cell service, WiFi or Internet required for Remote ID. This was proposed early on and was eliminated by the FAA before the rule was finalized. Someday they might revisit this, but for now no networking is needed. 🤙
The GPS that is being used for Remote ID (in this case) is built into the broadcast module, not the GPS that's on the drone. If you turn off the GPS on the drone it won't affect RID, if you turn off GPS on the module you're actually turning the whole module off, so that wouldn't be compliant with the rule. Hope that helps!
I think this is a great idea. I wish the RID wouldn't broadcast the pilot location otherwise I would be happy. Either that or they have a 20 min delay on showing pilot location as the pilot maybe moving around.
Pilot location should be off the table IMO. If LEO (only) can get your home address from it, like a license plate for your car, that should be enough...
Thanks for the excellent video on the Drone Beacon module. Received my module and reconfigured it per your video. The reconfig went just as described and the location is not visible using the OpenDroneID app. I'll feel a lot safer knowing my location isn't visible while complying with RID.
You're welcome, and that's awesome! You're the first to let me know the config worked as described, appreciate it. Glad it worked out!
You forgot to mention that the best way to attach the RID module is with at least seven layers of aluminum body-tape, making sure to smooth it down so there are no gaps around the module. 😛
Need to make it pretty! 🎀
Naw just dunk it in salt water first
That's great advice! Thanks
Wouldn't want potentially harmful radiation escaping!!!
28 volts will be sure and boist a clear signal
Just got my 107. I've been wanting to press my old Phantom 3 into professional service, knew I needed RemoteID, but was concerned about non-law enforcement having access to pilot location data. Your RemoteID module, and the configuration settings gives me all the confidence I need to move forward. Will be ordering the RID unit after I click comment.
Thanks,
Glad it was helpful!
Got my Drone Beacon module, (using your discount code), flashed the firmware, and did the configuration. All very simple and straightforward. Thanks for a very helpful video.
Great to hear, thanks for sharing! 🤙
Thanks and good to know. Hope the DJI drones that are now compatible with Remote ID add this "No Karen's" feature. I doubt it!!!
Perfect,,a cheaper solution for a problem I've heard about...what if I told you I've heard people say they were going to flood the airwaves with signals from modules in cars while on the freeway...leaving them on permanently in spots....while camping in the forest or fishing the local lakes and rivers.....everywhere they are not flying drones.....🥴
I'd say let them do it, this wont get policed anyway, it's merely going to be used retrospectively to pin a crime on a pilot that happened to be in that location
100%, ive been thinking of a few designs, just too lazy to write the firmware
I suppose they're going to spend the rest of their sorry lives running around, keeping that "flood" of batteries charged? Not to mention all their non-existent money they'll be spending on the RIDs in the first place!
@@karlswartz1308 If only a car had a convenient, on-board battery source.
That is great. What would be greater is if the manufacturers would allow that alteration on onboard RID, or perhaps make that the default setting when shipped.
Love your videos, your content is always informative and concise.
Glad it is helpful, and thanks for taking the time to comment! Indeed, baby steps...
That might come after someone is assaulted and they take the FAA to court.
DJI and the other manufacturers need to implement these options in their firmware!
Agreed!
Finally a workable solution. I was so concerned about thieves and bad people knowing my location that I was willing to go rogue and completely dark or drop the hobby altogether. My safety comes first.
It is a welcome solution for sure!
I plan to use this on my phantom 4 pro if they don’t fix it with firmware (maybe even turn it off I’d they do).
I’ll probably still go with my “if Karen can find me” plan as well though.
Police body cam, high vis vest with “FAA certified remote pilot, do not disturb”, and my usual openly carried full sized side arm. Maybe even pepper spray
@@OpenCarryUSMC Then the local gestapo will come and Shoot you. Watch out if you have a dog.
Exactly!
@@OpenCarryUSMC Keep that 1911 close by for sure. :)
Everyone will do this!!!!!!!
Keep making videos so we can do exactly what you're doing. We need you and we need your help to do this.
We don't want people spying on us.
Thanks for the kind words and taking the time to share!
@thegunsngloryshow Understandable, and if that information were available to law enforcement or FAA to confirm what/who is doing what would be fine. As a side note, rest assured, the wide angle lenses can not see much detail at all at any height, much, MUCH less than people think. That being said, allowing the general public to find the real time location of the the pilot, and enabling a confrontation, many times heated, and sometimes even with weapons, is unacceptable. This is a recipe for disaster, and someone will get hurt or killed for doing something innocent and legal.
@thegunsngloryshow Indeed, remote ID as it is now is problematic honestly unsafe, hence my attempt to level the field, at least a little, by working with Bluemark. To your question, "... I own 38 acres...", the answer is that the _property_ ownership is irrelevant to the FAA, as FAA has jurisdiction of ALL _airspace_ both controlled and uncontrolled. So if it's in the airspace it's controlled by the FAA, and if it is in FAA jurisdiction all the rules apply for operating in that airspace. This is what allows any airplane, helicopter and hot air balloon to operate over your property with impunity. If your flight is indoors, then the FAA has no say. I know some will say "how will the FAA know" if I'm over my own property, and this is a fair point, but if a medical helicopter has to divert or if the drone flies away into the path of an airplane for instance, that's when any violations will all pile on, IMHO.
I really appreciate that this beacon is now safe to use for our safety from fly haters who take us the wrong way and want to fight or shoot down my drone. It’s good that only faa or law enforcement can see. Thanks
This won't stop someone from shooting down your R/C aircraft.
Great info! My only problem with remote id was Karen and Ken having the ability to see my location. They have no legitimate reason to be given this information. For the self appointed members of the drone police, it's an open invitation you harass law abiding drone pilots. Thanks for informing the community about this product!!
Thanks, glad it is helpful!
How many Kerens & Kens will actually know that there is an app that you can find the drone anyway? Is very few I would think
@@cnc.moto_factory one is too many. But with social media it wont take long for people to know about it.
@@cnc.moto_factory I respectfully disagree.
@@cnc.moto_factory The karens that go to the trouble of finding the app are exactly the ones you don't want to have it.
We need more stuff like this! Ridiculous that drones are more regulated than most weapons at this point.
That’s not true.
@@Sparroh how so
Do you have to pass a test to get a gun? But you have to pass one to legally fly a drone for work?
@@patrickpendergast898 my point exactly
Neither should be regulated
Thank you for that information, That is the way it should be, I usually fly my drone in a relatively quite area, I don't mind law enforcement knowing where I am or what Ii am doing I have nothing to hide, but I feel unsafe knowing anyone can find me weather the have good or bad intentions Thhank you Bluemark.
Thanks for sharing! I completely agree and BlueMark was great in working with us to get this set up. I hope the rest of the industry takes note and trends in this direction!
This. Cops sure, Karens and theives/fools with guns no.
@@andrewdrone since clearly the FAA doesn’t care about that, based on what the FAA rep has said during interviews you know what you need to do or rather in this case NOT DO…
I will take it a step further as I HATE that bs argument people use, "well if you have nothing to hide then you should be ok with cops knowing where you are or what you are doing"
This is total bunk. Its just a nonsense argument used to infringe on people and overstep authority they shouldnt or dont have.
Hi, thank you! I will probably check this out. I'm always concerned flying alone. This will help a lot.
You're welcome, glad it is useful!
This is great news! Something I'll definitely look into after seeing how this plays out with people getting accosted for Karens calling drones in as "not complying" because they can't see the drone on the app and LEOs then accosting a pilot if thsy don't believe they are complying. I've had similar experiences in the automotive field skirting laws, completely on the legal side, but having overzealous police automatically assume and ticket me as if I were in the wrong. Wasting my time, their time, and tax payer money.
Thanks! They can always come to the channel, happy to educate if they need to know how the rules and the technology to make it work! Thinking most LEOs have better things to do... 😎
If RID is going to report where the pilot is then it should also report where karen is.
RID for Karen’s! love it. 😊
I'm all for that... Oh the outrage there would be!
Not cheap but better than most. Love the hack. Great info
Thanks! Indeed, going the right direction... 🤙
I have a 107 and do gig work with my mini3 , and gopro equipped cinewhoop. I plan on being mostly in compliance with everything used for work related flights. However I won't stop flying my 20 gram whoops because I didn't put a I'd on them.They really need to make some changes. I would go broke if I put one on all my quads, and planes
Indeed, this is not a well liked rule, and for good reason. Some will comply, but IMO there will be mass non-compliance for sure. It will be the equivalent of driving 5 mph over the speed limit, technically not legal, but nobody cares except for that one old lady wagging her finger at you as you drive by... Just sayin' 😎
This is going to be one of the most popular drone videos ever.
From your comments to TH-cam's ears... lol 😂
You have always been a voice of reason when it comes to this emotional issue and the only thing that I believe (besides cost) has been an issue is the Karen and criminal problem. This product seems to cover that 100%. Thank you for doing this great video.
Thanks! 🤙 BlueMark was great working with us to get this implemented...
Yep, this. No problem with RID except the public having access to it.
Hello Keith, thank you for this excellent update on these RID modules. I was looking into them when your video popped up on my notifications; perfect timing. I especially like the firmware changes to keep the pilot's location hidden from those without reason to know where we are. I jumped to the US Links to purchase the modules for my older but beneficial drones. Thank You!
Thanks! Glad it is helpful!
Remote ID and having the government in my pants… Me no like!
The fact that you can keep the average Joe or Karen in this case LOL from seeing your position big thumbs up.
Thanks for all your information for not only keeping us out of legal trouble, but keeping us safe.
Thanks! I'll take the incremental wins when I can get them for sure! 🤙
F the po-po.
The FCC has thr gall to call it license plate for drones. Another TH-camr said it's more correctly an ankle monitor for drone operators.
I saw this comment on another channel. I wish I could take credit for it, but I cant. PLEASE READ!! It's informative, ABSOLUTELY correct, and worth the time to read.
A few facts: The FAA is not an "enforcement" agency. Local Law Enforcement Officers are NOT Federal RULE enforcement agents. I am a Part 107 pilot since 2016. I've had every type of Karen and Dumb Cop interaction you can imagine. Let me explain to everyone EXACLTY what to do when a drone cop makes contact with you and starts demanding crap. (Unless you live in a stop and ID state or are operating a motor vehicle on a public road) Police cannot demand a darn thing. When cops come up to me and start talking, I make eye contact ask their name and badge number then tell them I want my lawyer present for all questions. (5th Amendment right) Then ask for a supervisor (they are required to get one when asked). After that I refuse to say a word, except to ask "Am I being detained?" and "Let me know when you are done detaining me." You are NOT required to give your Trust Card/Part 107, SSN Card, ID Card, DL, etc to any cop just because they demand it. Cop 101: In order to demand ID a cop must have Reasonable Articulable Suspicion that you are breaking a LAW!!!! Not a Federal Rule. I refuse to show them anything. (4th Amendment right) I have my drones all registered. The number is on the bottom in the same grey color as the drone so tiny its hard to read, but if holding the drone in your hand it can be clearly seen. This is done so they can't take a picture or see the number. Cops are NOT allowed to touch or seize your drone even for a second. Again, that's a 4th Amendment right violation. 100% of the time cops are called on me I leave without giving them anything, ever... period. If a cop has a Remote ID app, and sees you flying and notices your drone is not broadcasting... again, local law enforcement officers are not federal rule enforcement agents. Just ask the cop this, "what penal code violation is "not complying with remote ID"? Done. Now they can and will try to see what car you are driving to ID you that way. Being patient works. I've found that cops get bored and leave after 15-20mins of watching me to see what car I am driving. Keep in mind, I follow every single FAA rule. I even do things above and beyond what they require; marking landing sites with orange cones, having a lipo rated fire extinguisher on site at all times, etc. I will not however comply with RemoteID. That will only make the Karen situation worse. Using your own analogy; Do local cops enforce FDA rules/policies? Of course not. Just like they don't stop people using cellphones to make sure they are FCC compliant. I am not a lawyer, nor to I play one on TV. David Lane (Denver, CO) is my lawyer and we are ready for the FAA. ** the following was my reply to T** before he blocked it: @Tim McKay NOTHING to follow at all. There is ZERO connection between local law enforcement and federal rules. ZERO! The idea that local cops are going to start busting kids at parks flying toys without RemoteID is never going to happen. Just like local cops don't enforce building codes/rules. Cities are required to have and maintain an entire dept of employees to enforce building codes or even city codes (like your grass is too long). Question - how many people have been arrested by a cop for their grass being too long? Now if they FAA wants to hire rule enforcement agents.... will that ever happen? Nope. One other thing... I've been flying remote aircraft since the mid 80's. Quadcopters since 2013. This isn't "new and evolving". Its OLD and evolving. YEARS and YEARS of dji style drones everywhere. How many have killed someone? Seriously injured? How many people have been arrested by cops for flying a drone (that wasn't in a park where a city has a ordinance)?????? How many drones have crashed into manned aircraft? I know of one. It was a cop flying a drone into a police helicopter. We have this thing called history we can rely on T**. History has shown us that the FAA is a joke! Let me drop another one on ya T**. The Federal Post Office!!!! They have their own enforcement division as well. Why is that? Because local cops are not federal rule enforcement agents. Some cities have signed/voted on agreements with their post offices. This is so local cops can enter federal property and enforce LOCAL LAWS. So if I enter a post office and ship a lipo battery without marking that on the box - I just violated a federal rule. I get caught. What happens? Does the post master call local police? Of course not. Even with a signed letter of cooperation between the Federal Govt (Post Office) and local PD only allows the PD to enforce what they are mandated to enforce.... LAWS, not rules. Those agreements are for people breaking local LAWS on postal property (such as disorderly conduct). Meaning even if a city enters into an "understanding" about FAA regulations with the FAA, local cops can still only enforce LAWS. (I mention this because some cities have already tried - right Mayor of Telluride, CO?) Now if pilots choose to waive their civil rights and comply with cops out of fear... I can't help the sheep.
Well done review of the module. Overview of RID , and demonstration of the "hack". Good information.
Karen/Ken's don't need to know where I am. Law enforcement, sure.
My issue with this module, way too expensive. On the plus side, I can easily transfer it between my builds. Yes, I build my fpv quads. And I beat the snot out of them. Is that thing durable? And it's too big for my 3.5" builds.
Thank you for sharing, hopefully as we get closer to September we'll have more options.
Happy flying everyone. 🤓
As far as modules, I think this is good that at least one is looking to address one of the biggest problems with Remote ID. Cost is still a bit much, but for a hobbyist, buying only one that could be moved helps. It does look a bit big though, and durability is definitely going to be a problem with these things. For those wanting to comply, this looks to be a better option than the others I have seen thus far. Maybe the FAA should give vouchers for the cost difference from what they promised to what we actually have? LOL yeah, that'll never happen
@@StacemanFPV they could save weight by powering it via the balance lead. Like we do with naked Gopro's. Would also allow it to be made smaller.
Thanks again, Keith. I received my module a couple of months ago, but finally got around to setting it up, reconfiguring it and updating my FAA registration. Followed your video step, by step....helped me alot! Much appreciated.
Happy to help!
Thank you for your anti-Karen tips. I am now waiting for my Remote ID model 121.
Glad it is helpful! 🤙
Outstanding video.....as always!! Thank you so much for all you do and for all the vital information you share. This is the first comment I have ever placed on ANY website. I realize that my comments herein are obvious and inconsequential and repetitive of most other commenters. However, I felt the need to write this just to ensure that you realize how much your efforts are appreciated by countless silent but enlightened viewers like myself.
Thank you for the kind words and taking the time to let me know! It means a lot to hear yourfeedback, it is appreciated! 🙏
Very interesting but perhaps a bit complicated for us non-super techy folks. Hopefully, we can have all this in order by September. Surely, I hate having to deal with remote ID. However, I now have several sub 250g drones but as soon as you add an extended battery or even a 3-mile compliant light on top of it, you now are over 250g! Sucks! So oh well. Also have a Mavic Air 2 that I am considering selling but not sure just yet. Thanks for the great info for us to learn.
Glad it is helpful, and thanks for taking the time to comment!
I also have a ma2 although I fly it much less now after having been on the business end of a 12 gauge because a gun nut freak show was paranoid I was spying on him while I was inspecting MY chimney. After my 3 batteries die I will scrap the drone most likely. It’s not safe to fly drones here in Murica…
@@0utcast Some people are nuts. That's all.
@@0utcast I hope you called the cops and had the idiot jailed. I'm all for firearms freedoms but thats being unreasonable and shouldnt be tolerated period.
I do a lot of IOT device programming and I can say it's a lot like our vtx rules. It's perfectly fine to broadcast under low power, ike Bluetooth or network ssid, etc., on public frequencies. Signal boosters are widely available. All legal up to a certain point of power. Idk what power level that is but it would require specialized equipment requiring a license and be more expensive than most would spend the money on. What would create legal issues would be bypassing encryption or broadcasting on private frequencies. Which wouldn't apply here or every rid module would have licensing requirements and/or encryption keys. That said, it is the government. If you piss them off they will find a crime.
Thank you for the info. I am novice DJI Phatom 4 Pro V 2.0 flyer and exploring my options with R.I.D. Will look into this for sure.
Thank you for this information. I thought I was going to have to retire my drones.
You're welcome, glad it is useful!
Love being able to see everyone's location!
This is the 1st RID that makes sense. Cost of over $100 could be a problem considering the cost of drone?
Indeed it makes sense, I agree. If you're handy and want to stick the PCB on/in the drone and power it with the drone it's down to $119, which is better than the $300 that we started with, but of course still might be inhibitive for some and they'll probably just not comply...
I've heard there is a module that cost less than $40 coming out soon. Maybe worth waiting if you're adamant you want to comply.
Excellent video. I have a DB-120 on order. I assume what you select WLAN BEACON under the RADIO tab, you're turning off is the data transmission that a standard cell phone App can copy and display. You mention Law Enforcement and the FAA have different detection equipment that can still monitor this RF ID Device with the parameters you mentioned being turned off. Just curious, when selecting WLAN BEACON mode, what RF ID signals can the authorities still monitor on the DB-120? In other words, how did you determine that by selecting WLAN BEACON, the DB-120 remains legal to use in the US?
Thanks! The WiFi is not turned off, just the way it responds to requests. Professional scanners have more robust signal scanning and don't need the specific signals that are needed by consumer cell phones. According to the manufacturer of the device, if configured as noted it is a compliant broadcast according to the rule as it still meets the approved FAA DOC as submitted.
Thanks for the rely. In the world of Remote ID Modules, the DB-120 seems to be unique.
This is THE BEST remote ID video I’ve seen so far. Now there’s hope for my Phantom 4!
I did just purchase the RID for my MavicAir2 using your promo code (Thanks for the buck $1) Your video is clear and was helpful for this purchase. I’ll return to refresh my memory about the ROM update steps and HACK once the RID arrives.
Thanks for the feedback! I wish the discount was better for you, and directly from the original manufacturer (BlueMark) we did get a much better discount, but from the local supplier in the US it is a bit stingy. They did save us shipping from the Netherlands and reasonable shipping so not all bad I guess... 😎
I'm in the UK and mostly fly sub 250g but I have a bunch of planes that are over limit, they are gliders and scale war birds and sticking that thing on would spoil looks and performance.
No one doing anything nefarious will comply , it's just dumb.
Nice to see a work around for those willing to comply though, defo makes it safer.
Indeed, that's the thing about rules and laws, only the honest people follow them, and the ones who don't take advantage of them...
This video is epic for me. I have an older EXO Cinemaster 2 that works great and I just couldn't justify some of the Remote ID module prices to continue using it for anything beyond recreational use.
Now that there is an option to remain compliant, but thwart the casual snooper, this option is amazing. This should be a feature of any remote ID module. With time running out, I think this is the way I will go. In the future, my drone upgrades will have it on-board, but I'm in that awkward transitional phase with an older drone that I want to keep flying Part 107.
Glad it is useful!
AWESOME, Keith!! Thanks so much for working with these guys and keeping us legal, but safe….and at a reduced price!!
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Thanks for sharing this information on RID modules.
U know what's crazy is u actually need a amature radio license to broadcast these so it's so messed up I just don't give a fck. Nobody is gonna find me anyways if I don't want to be found. I got a sunroof and tinted windows.
Hi Allen I just got my first Drone (DJI mini2se) for fathers day. Son got this for me so we can have some fun just flying in the park. I have been watching You Tube info. about these rules, license & certificate I was made to get the Trust by the son. Now I need to buy this so people & cops who hate drones can come and give a big fine or steal it? This is also for RC airplanes, this is going to be pricey just to have fun.
Great video!
Glad it is helpful, and thanks for taking the time to comment! If you are flying only for fun, the Mini2 SE is below the weight limit which requires registration so you don't need to add any modules, and it is not transmitting on it's own, so you're good! Correct, this is for RC planes also, but only those that are above 249g OR flown for commercial (part 107) purposes... 👍
I wouldn't refer to this as a "hack". It's just a "configuration setting".
That's alright if you don't understand. It's a hack because we created it, causing it to exist at all. It is now "just" a configuration setting because I worked with the manufacturer to have it included for everybody with a firmware option. You're welcome.
This is Awesome, I have ordered 2 to cover my fleet.
Nice! It's nice that Bluemark is engaged and innovating for sure! 🤙
Thanks for this great video!
I would assume this also applies to the DB121pcb since the only difference is lack of battery and remote antennas?
That is correct, same process but different firmware. Note the db121pcb does have remote antenna and GPS, just lacks a battery. th-cam.com/video/GJBNqKafe-Q/w-d-xo.html
I appreciate that you've gone to the effort here so people afraid to non comply can continue to fly. (that's catchy) I do wonder though, why not make a phone app that puts out the signal and save the weight on the quad. Nobody is going to know the signal comes from the quad and not your phone anyway. It can just randomize the GPS and altitude data, so long as you're fling nearby what's the harm?
Thanks! I imagine since some remotes don't need cell phones they wanted to be sure to see the drone...
Interested in this, I like the thought process.
Thanks! Necessity breeds innovation they say! 🤙
You're a great American, I subscribed immediately. Loving the channel!
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I hope other like DJI offer this as an option. As long as it's compliant, I love this feature, especially against thugs. But I feel like if Karen sees a drone but no RemoteID, she's going to go running to the police because the operator must be breaking the law!
Thanks for sharing. That's a concern for sure...
Nice work! I shared everywhere I could on social media.
Awesome, thanks! 🤙
This is such a great idea! I hope more RID Module manufacturers get on board with this....I'm trying to get the word out on this so gave you a shout-out on my channel as well for making us aware. A step in the right direction...thx!
Thank you! Absolutely agree, trying to DO SOMETHING, and BlueMark was kind enough to listen to my perspective and work to implement a version that at least moves the needle in the right direction. Hopefully we set a precedent that catches on everywhere in the industry! You Heard It Here First! lol 🤙
Thank You. Your work with DroneBeacon firmware was right on the money. Followed your instructions and the db120 is not visible to the civilian tracking apps. Again, Thank You!
Great to hear, Thanks for Sharing!
Outstanding video! It would be nice if the FAA cared about these potentially volatile issues surrounding this, but I fully expect them to be overwhelmed by the Karen's and others reporting drone pilots and events and interfering with law abiding drone operators as a result of their rule.
Thanks! 🤙
Thank you for this information. I have a older drone and everything you covered in this video will help me.
My drone has about 20 min flight time. How much less will my flight time be you think? Or will this time vary by drone manufacturer?
Thanks! My guess is it won't effect it very much under normal circumstances. Most larger drones have power to spare so they can fight the wind so maybe just a tiny bit of time. If putting it on a mini drone I can see it knocking it down a bit more... 😎
Thanks for this video. I have been flying RC aircraft since the mid '70s. As much as Remote ID is a hassle I understand how and why the FAA has had to resort to this. I am thankful that the AMA has worked with the FAA and has created the FRIAs so we can continue to fly at our AMA sanctioned flying field. I will be purchasing one of these modules to have with me when I fly at a non-FRIA site.
Great video and good information. I am guessing $149 is far too expensive for most casual hobby flyers of planes and quadcopters. That's the cost of one of my entire planes for example! And then or course, this company obviously didn't expect the demand because the DB120 is back ordered.
Thanks! Indeed, $149 isn't cheap, but the last one we worked with was $300, so that's progress. After our video we sold them out at least 3 times already... I thought they had more in this week, maybe they're sold out again... 😎
@@AlienDronesAs of today, 9/1, back ordered.
Great video! Subscribed!
Awesome, thank you!
Karen will simply report that she has a drone in sight and she can't see it with her app to the cop and he/she will be on you faster than a speeding busybody.
All drones do not need to broadcast Remote ID and are still perfectly legal. So Karen will report a potentially legal activity, then will end up crying in her safe space with her therapy dog... 😅
Cop: "How is it harassing you?" Karen: "It's... flying... way up hundreds of feet and I can still see it!" Cop: "Mmmm-kay, we'll go 'check it out" Also Cop: Goes to buy a donut.
Just coming up to speed on everything, glad I found you!
Thanks, and no worries, we'll get it figured out together as we go!
props for your wife playing karen
Or is it Karen playing my wife? Hmmm, lol. She's a good sport, but kudos to her for still stepping up!
Maybe can still use a cellphone with an external USB OTG WLAN card that supports monitor mode. Probably won't stop nearby monitoring karens using an indoor computer setup from handing out locations to others. WLAN card the has monitor mode required.
Thanks for this info! Wondering if any of the other RID's have this same configuration possibility? Didn't like the size and looks of this one, and the gray Potensic looks better on my FIMI S8 SE 2020 but don't know if there is a work around like the Blue Mark's.
Thanks! Nope, this is unique to the BlueMark. They are the only ones willing to go through the substantial extra work qualifying this version. Indeed I don't care for the form factor either, but...
GREAT work working with Bluemark on the firmware fix. Just an FYI when I received my Db120 it had the new firmware..
Thanks, That's Excellent! They said they would start including it in the next versions, and to be honest I heard Alien Drones sold them out! Was the new firmware configured as in this video or a different default?
Good info, what Im looking for is the functionality to log the flight path on a map and altitude. I belong to a rc club and would like a reference to where our flight boundaries are from the pilots stand viewpoint. To record it and view it after flight would be ideal. Any thoughts?
Hey man thanks for the video!
My pleasure, thanks for letting me know!
Hi,
Thanks for your contribution to the firmware enhancements.
If I deactivate the "Reply to active WLAN scanning" function, will that prevent me locating my unit with my own phone when I land off-site?
If so, could the firmware be modified to allow a specific mobile phone access to the signal. That would allow the pilot access whilst excluding the "Karens".
Excellent work and a great idea.
Thanks!
If at any point you need a Karen to make long-range testing, I have one at home that I am not using.
An extra Karen? 😂
Keith, great video! I just ordered the Drone Beacon module. I have the Exo Drones Blackhawk II Pro, where do you suggest mounting the Drone Beacon module? It might fit on top in front of the battery, but that puts it very far forward. Center it front to back and Velcro it to the battery? Thoughts? Also I was looking at the HugeRock X7 drone table from one of the videos you did. Any suggestions how to mount it to the Exo Drones Blackhawk II Pro controller? Thanks
Thanks! This module is a tight fit on the BH2 Pro as I have on on there as well. I ended up on the battery instead of the front. A little more inconvenient but just costs a bit more velcro. 😎 I use a couple of different versions of the tablet holder that I happen to have from the mavic pro days amzn.to/3wKYAmb and I'm able to tighten them up a but with some well placed rubber bands, I suppose I should search out a tighter one, but if you're not worried about fiddling a bit it works ok...
Excellent! Thank you very much for the information! I lucked out that you have tried the same things on a BH2 Pro as well. Thanks again!
WORKED!!!!
THANK YOU!!!
Thanks for sharing that it is still accurate!
How would the RID module work as a tracking device? Say I'm out on a photo shoot and lay my gear bag down, but I have a RID device in it broadcasting my location. Somebody grabs my bag, and if I'm within range can track it? It's not what the device was intended to do but would it work, why not? If I used an external power source, it would xmit forever? I'd just want to make sure that if it was in my checked airline bag, it wasn't accidentally left on.
I've held off buying a RID for my Phantom 4 since it has a mechanical problem, but once I fix it, to be compliant I'll need to look into one of these gadgets.
Jim
John Doe buys RID module and tapes it to a feral cat to release at the nearest international airport. what happens next?
Poor kitty.
Excellent info, THANKS
so what do you do when karen calls the cops (complains it is not broadcasting) and they follow the drone to where you land it?
If you're doing nothing wrong, this is unlikely. There are many drones flying that do not NEED remote ID, so not seeing a RID signal does not mean there is anything non-compliant going on, and keep in mind it IS transmitting a compliant RID signal so you would be compliant with RID. If they simply are anti-drone they would be more likely to charge a pilot with reckless flying or trespassing, which ARE under their purview, rather than RID. If they are serious about RID, they will likely have the right equipment already (LEO can't just pull out their personal cell phone and start scanning to determine compliance with anything, they'll have the right equipment) and the broadcast will show up just fine.
I make mine invisible by not using one.
Of course! Flying in a FRIA is always an option. 😂
@@AlienDrones good luck getting a fria approved. the faa is NOT here to help with that.
How?
This is a very clever idea! I like it. Doesn't resolve all the issues (eg remote ID on part 107 micro quads and still needing to purchase fairly expensive RID module) but it's good!
Ordered mine and got the discount.
Bought it because if the anti Karen config not the discount.
Thanks.
Alien Drones originated this Anti-Karen work so glad it was useful! 😎
My DB12 is in hand and I’m trying to get things set up but want to do like you did with first seeing what it broadcasts in factory config then after reconfigure.
I can’t find a single app that tracks drones without subscription, purchase, or other data collection BS.
Any recommendations?
@@OpenCarryUSMC DroneScanner and OpenRemote ID are the two free apps I used and was able to see the broadcast. If you have Apple I don't think there is a free app available right now, something about Apple's configuration makes scanning difficult.
@@AlienDrones I do have apple. I bought the DB120 so I'll configure it to prevent Karens from seeing my drone. Not sure what I'll do when I get a new drone with built in RID but I've already gotten a police body cam and will carry some little printouts of Oregon state law which makes it a felony to interfere with a drone pilot.
I wanna know if you can make a bigger drone show as a mini dji drone with the remote ID. Just curious
Dude got him his own personal Karen 😂
When you got it, you got it! 😂
Lot easier to make a small case in the form of a faraday cage. Remote ID final ruling states the module has to TRANSMIT the data, there is zero requirement for it to be capable of being received X distance from the UAS.
Can't confirm or deny this, but a flying roll cage would have many benefits! 🤙🤙
them modules cost as much as my drone, this is bs.
Thanks for the video but I'm Telling the FAA they are number one 😂😂😂
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Outstanding video! Thank you!
Thanks ! 🤙
Great idea for the module as well as information. Since you're working with the manufacturer, I would encourage you to have them design a more aerodynamic form. That module you displayed screams "maximum air resistance." How long does that battery last in the module? I have 4 batteries for my drone which typically lasts about 45 minutes total. Need to make sure the module lasts longer than the drone batteries. Thanks again for the video.
Indeed, I mentioned that first thing when I received it... 🤙
Very informative. Thanks.
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Great video. Looking at the Db 120 site, I'm a bit confused. Is the Db 120 all I need (complete system) or do I also need the transponder to be complete and legal?
The Db120 is a complete stand-alone module.
Outstanding Keith. Thanks for the excellent video!
Thanks for the kind words! 🤙🤙
So to be clear all drones need to have this these type of modules? I watched a previous video of yours and was under the impression that only categories 1-4 was required to have these.
You're mixing a couple of things. First, the simplest way to explain the requirement for Remote ID is that if the drone (or yourself) is registered for any reason (required or not) then it needs remote ID. If it is registered and it doesn't have built in "standard" remote ID, then it will need a module like the one in this video (there are other models of course). Second, the category 1-4 is referring to the "flights over people rule" drone classifications, and one of the requirements for the flights over people rule requires _every_ category of drone (1-4) to have remote ID installed. Hope this helps!
I was thinking more about this... It makes sense we should be able to see who looked up our drone when we're flying since they can find all our info, like our name and stuff. We should be able to know who looked us up in reverse as well. It only makes sense. The apps should be membership based imo, so you at least have to have an account and info on your account to look us up. That would increase our security at least somewhat. We can know if the fbi or cia are looking us up or some shit at very least.
Even in the default mode, no one sees your personal info. Only the FAA has that, and they would only reveal it to LE if there was a reason to do so.
@@modquad18 Thats not consistent with what people are showing.
@@maddercat Share some links of examples please.
i have a DJI Spark, it's too small to attach anything to it, it's half the size of your Mavic.
Thank You, Does this way work for all remote id's or just this one?
I only have the details for this one, and we added options to make it react this way. If others have similar firmware and options like this that can be adjusted, and accessed by the end user then in theory it should work on more devices. IMO if manufacturers do this, even on built in modules, they'll sell more drones than those who don't...
Hey great video very informative. But I have a question about connecting to the internet for the remote ID To be able to broadcast. I have an area that is located in West Virginia and it’s between mountains many mountains to be exact. And this area doesn’t have cellular service or wifi. When I fly into the area I have to wait until I get back into city limits before getting any signal to my phone. So I don’t see how remote ID can possibly work in locations such as this? I am however able to connect to GPS satellites with my DJI drones. And they still work in this area I just don’t have any internet connection.
Hello and thanks for the question! This is a common misconception as there is no cell service, WiFi or Internet required for Remote ID. This was proposed early on and was eliminated by the FAA before the rule was finalized. Someday they might revisit this, but for now no networking is needed. 🤙
THX You're the man !
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Asome ALIEN Drone ROCKS !!!!!
Great to see some new videos I still have my Cooau drone!! Haven’t flown it much I will
Thanks for the info. I have a mavic2 pro that I will use this for, but what about my smart controller ( version1) ?
Thanks! I'm unsure what the smart controller will offer...
Thanks for another informative video I was wondering if you know if the "OpenDroneID" app is available for apple phones as I can't find it.
Thanks! I'm unsure, but I thought it was available. Reach out directly to BlueMark and I would think they can tell you for sure...
I use an add-on strobe light on top of my Mavic, can I mount that on top of this module (so it's still 360 visible?)
If you turn off GPS mode will that make you invisible? I was thinking of getting into the hobby and know very little
The GPS that is being used for Remote ID (in this case) is built into the broadcast module, not the GPS that's on the drone. If you turn off the GPS on the drone it won't affect RID, if you turn off GPS on the module you're actually turning the whole module off, so that wouldn't be compliant with the rule. Hope that helps!
Is lowering the transmission power legal?
For WLAN no, for Bluetooth yes. If you would lower the WLAN transmit power on the db120 module it will signal that it is in non-compliant mode.
I think this is a great idea. I wish the RID wouldn't broadcast the pilot location otherwise I would be happy. Either that or they have a 20 min delay on showing pilot location as the pilot maybe moving around.
Pilot location should be off the table IMO. If LEO (only) can get your home address from it, like a license plate for your car, that should be enough...