So if everyone hooked these up to their cars so it was always powered, it would overwhelm the system, making a drone as hard to locate as needle in a stack of needles.
Well yes and no. This still hard encodes the GPS location so it would still only show the location you program. Your idea would work better by having the GPS location fed by an attached GPS module. That way it would always be broadcasting the spoofed ID in the area you are at.
@@theskyisminefpv1218 I think they said needle in a stack of "needles" bcz they would all be the same. Hiding the Drone around a bunch of (fake) drones rather than trying to hide it in a pile of something else. But yes, I think haystack would also work and get the point across.
Are remote ID serial numbers intended to be publicly available info? If so, the system has major security risk - if anyone can take that ID and use in a spoofing program to simulate your aircraft. No remote ID based evidence will ever hold up in court. Presume this could be the downfall of the whole system?
It's so dumb. Identification should only be accessable to authorities. People should only be able to report drones anonymously and the authorities can reveal the information and use their discretion whether there are any laws being broken. Civilians should not be able to have the info to be vigilantes. As for legitimacy when spoofing exists, if cryptography is used to sign beacon packets, legitimacy could be verified. But again, cryptography should also protect the privacy of the drone pilot from civilians. The pilot database should not be public either.
@@benargeeThere’s nothing in the ATSM standard for RID signals to incorporate cryptographic signatures. The mere fact that this exists completely invalidates RID as evidence of anything.
People use these in homes for "smart home" automation also. Led strips, Light sensors and the works. It wouldn't surprise me if some of that is popping up to some people as "drones" lmfao.
@@knight907 wow, not only are the IDs made public, there's also no cryptographic signing over timestamp, location and ID? I had a feeling the system was dumb, but this dumb... speechless.
Gotta love Open Source! Good job Arduino dudes. Can’t wait to see how this evolves and it will! Set it out somewhere in the general area, but not near where you are standing.
The fact the esp can transmit the rid protocol gives me hope. Much cheaper than off the shelf modules to start, and I could see a variation of this project which shows the required rid information but with some obfuscated or filtered information - a happy medium between compliance and noncompliance perhaps?
@@lavachemist it will be the FAA trying to prevent things like this. If they only let authorised manufacturers have a code then they can control it more.
The FAA has already shown that they only want authorized "tamperproof" modules to be allowed as compliant. Despite the fact that DIY'ers have shown that they can easily spoof or even perfectly replicate the functions for less, that's just too cheap and easy for the likes of such bureaucrats.
This is a good first attempt. It can and should get a lot better than this. It would probably be worth them switching to ESP32 since they are more powerful. You can get ones with external antennas and there shouldn’t be any issues adding a GPS module to it. A potentially good board to use would be the XIAO with the ESP32C3. It has an external antenna and is tiny. If size isn’t important then any ESP32 board with external antenna would be a good option. ESP32 boards also have Bluetooth so you could create a phone app to alter settings like GPS coordinates, number of drones, etc if you wanted.
JB, love your content. I am watching the evolution of RID. There is definitely going to be/is a market for Karen Countermeasures. That's all I will say, to go on, it would cut into hours of flying time.... Keep up the great content!
From what I've been seeing the RID modules only have a range of about 200 to 500 ft from the aircraft. I can see the ones with the 200 ft range becoming the best sellers.😎👍
Some people are commenting that this is definitely illegal. I'm not convinced. I'm not a lawyer, and you're probably not a lawyer either, and the person whose video you're probably quoting when you say it's illegal -- he isn't a lawyer either, and he's not even a U.S. resident. So let's all just take a big step back and think about this. Could this be illegal under some "interfering with a system" law? Yup. If the government wants to screw you over, they will find some law to charge you with. Look at what happened to Aaron Swartz (link: bit.ly/3ronrJB). But it's not a given that using the RemoteID spoofer is illegal. Consider this: intentionally jamming RF signals is illegal, right? Yes. If I were to get a microwave oven and put it in the middle of a shopping mall and turn it on with the express intent of jamming wifi in the mall, that would be illegal. But if I was making a cup of tea with that same microwave oven, that would not be illegal, because my intent is to make a cup of tea, not to interfere with the system. So any law that hinges on intent to interfere requires the government to prove your intent. In addition, the Spoofer does not prevent the RemoteID system from working. Legitimate RemoteID broadcasts are still transmitted and received, and all RemoteID systems work correctly. What if I was to do the same thing by buying 15 DJI Avatas and plugging them all in so they broadcast RemoteID information? Would that be illegal? What if I was to do the same thing by hiring 15 friends to come hover the DJI Avatas in the area while I fly? Is that illegal? Obviously not, even though the effect is exactly the same as with this RemoteID spoofer. My point is that there is no law that requires RemoteID trasmissions to be sent only be an actual SUAS (as far as I know). Any way that the gov tries to make this illegal will hinge on their interpretation of your intent, and intent can be difficult to prove if you just keep your mouth shut. BUT if you get into a situation where you have to defend your intent against the gov, you're probably already in deep shit, so better to just not get in that situation in the first place.
The intent of broadcasting decoy signals is obviously to defeat the utility of RID for those who would use it. I can't imagine any ather interpretation. However, interestingly, it uses spectrum and corresponding equipment that is type certified for unlicensed general purpose use. Not the case for ADSB which has its own spectrum and dedicated equipment. So you're clean(Ish) with the FCC, sorta. Yet I wouldn't put it past some prosecutor to cook up any kind if charge - maybe some kind of terrorism? for inducing panic, perhaps...
@TheCablebill the inducing panic argument implies that all drones are scary, which could be spun into the govt is inducing panic by releasing this app and system.
>Any way that the gov tries to make this illegal will hinge on their interpretation of your intent, and intent can be difficult to prove if you just keep your mouth shut. Yeah, you got that right. You didn't keep your mouth shut at all and your video leaves no room for any other interpretation from your side. I can't imagine publishing a video like this will be very beneficial your channel (in light of YTs Harmful or dangerous content policies and people not liking you as a person reporting this video). That said, I respect that you did it and I wish more "content creators" were like you. Kudos.
ADSB isn't on a frequency set aside for private use like Bluetooth and Wifi are. I am pretty sure the reason you can't spoof ADSB legally is that you can't broadcast legally on those frequencies unless it is for ADSB, which has been blessed by the FCC as well as the FAA. The FAA does not own the frequencies at play here and likely has over stepped their authority by co-opting them for air traffic control.
in theory, you have also given information on how to build your own RID module for legit purposes for those who wish to comply, but cant afford a certified device. Yes, it wont fit the letter of the law, but could get your local PD to simply walk away.
The issue is getting a legitimate serial number to go with it. I guess a person could buy a single real module, then just spoof their own real number off of non-compliant modules for cheaper.
there are RID project with ardupilot, but your DIY RID wont get approve by FAA because it is not tamper-proof. It is only possible to do it by manufacturers and cheap ESP chip.
Install that on the aircraft, should increase the range if up in the air. The NodeMCU doesn't use much power and it's pretty small, power it from the flight battery, add an antenna.
@@MrCottonmouth it depends if you are allowed to make your own or if you have to buy an FAA certified one. If you have to buy an FAA certified one then there is no point trying to make your own because it will be as bad as flying without one.
@@conorstewart2214 Technically it would probably be worse if they caught you, but how many cops do you know of that can tell the difference between a real RID module and a fake? You could probably point at your RX and they'd believe you. Even an FAA official might not know without looking up what's authorized.
FYI, the Usage section of the readme shows how to enter your own GPS coords (as of the time of this writing.) TL;DR: within 2 minutes of turning on the device, go to a local URI and enter your coordinates. After 2 minutes, it starts spoofing.
If remote ID were anything NEAR constitutional, I wouldn't object. But CLEARLY it violates the first amendment freedom of press clause that means they can't infringe on public photography. Also it violates the fourth amendment. You do not have to provide ID if you are not doing anything illegal, so screw this law at the molecular level! All good wishes.
First of all, this is awesome. I'm an old guy, so i have already purchased the actual RID module ($140) But I'd love one of these because the park we fly at is filled with karens. Looks complicated for a guy that has difficulty resetting his microwave clock display. Someone needs to start selling testers/training devices so Karen can learn how to use the "drone finder app" on her phone. I bet Karen would pay $50 to help keep the world safe from fun. Nobody would ever use such a device to prevent Karen from her self-appointed duties. Probably important to be able to set altitude, speed and gps fence for the 'training drones' so the training app can ensure that Karen understands how to use her app.
Man !!! I don’t understand half of what you explained but it sounds so cool !! All I understand there’s a way to get everybody’s nose off of my drone hobby, GREAT CONTENT my man !!! Keep it up cause I’m going to get to know your ideas and put them into practice . Thank you!!!
I am a HAM radio guy and EE. The frequency spectrum is very carefully allocated by the FCC. Both Bluetooth and WiFi are open public parts of the spectrum. FAA can make all the rules they want but these are public frequencies. I see no way they can keep people from using them anyway they want, e.g. spoofing. I used to fly in a park in the Phoenix, AZ area. One side of it had a bunch of homes with WiFi in them. We would consistently get interference with video when flying near them. How is this different than this ESP32 project? The FAA is way out of it league on this. For another example of the FAA vs the FCC read up on the radio altimeter mess that full scale aviation is dealing with. The FAA tried force cell companies to abandon frequencies they had just paid big bucks for because of possible interference with poorly designed radio altimeters. After lots of posturing the FAA lost, the radio altimeters have to be updated to filter out the cell phone frequencies. This should have been the case from the start but the radio altimeter manufacturers wanted to save some $'s and did poor design. They got away with for a long time as no one was on the adjacent frequencies, now that has changed.
I'm going to have to put one of these onboard each of my drones. 😉 I have plenty of ESP8266 modules that have been just laying around waiting for a fun project.
Could do some accent lighting in your house. Ive watched a lot of videos now of people using these modules to run smart home automation stuff. Motion sensors turning lights on, or to control multiple LED strips similar (or identical to) how a Govee LED system works.
First off this uses WiFi+Bluetooth and I believe we are for the most part free to broadcast anything we want in those bands as long as the transmit power level restrictions are followed. And keep in mind its not just WiFi and Bluetooth that operate in these frequencies, other devices such as microwaves, cordless phones, ZigBee are among the list of things that operate in this frequency ranges and this is by no means a complete list and the ability to regulate that is not up to the FAA but actually falls under the FCC.
Also if this is legal to do, whats to stop a non pilot from flashing a bunch of these and just simulating them for no reason? with no actual drone in the air or doing it around a pilot they don't know. This will again just muddy the waters so to speak. I could see attaching these to a terrestrial bound RC car and using a GPS to update the center of the fake drone swarm.
I have used the ESP8266 and ESP32 boards for some IOT projects like temperature and humidity sensors. They are dev boards similar to Arduino boards. I'm pretty sure you can get a GPS module that would communicate with these boards. It's also possible to modify the code so that you could configure the GPS coordinates on a webpage, instead of having to recompile the program to change the coordinates. I would think it would be illegal to spoof ADS-B data, but it's just an unencrypted data packet, so it wouldn't be hard to do.
Yes, I2C or UART, NEMA or UBX protocol makes it really straight forward. I prefer Ublox UBX since you can receive only the data you want without all the NEMA sentence noise. With UBX you can pull data when ready instead of polling for data.
Desolder the resistor right before the antenna and solder an sma cable to the empty pcb slot next to old resistor. Solder shield to ground. Use AT command to bump wifi module power up to 100mw. Use a high gain antenna or a better cp antenna. You will get pretty decent range. You can always add a cheap power Amp to the sma then your antenna on the other end of the Amp. Will carry a half mile to a mile plus on just a dipole and set to 100mw.
Adding a GPS is a pretty easy change. You need half a dozen lines of c code to pull the location out of the GPS data and drop it in the existing location definition. My guess is it will take you a couple hours of googling to figger it out. Everything else you need to do I've seen you do in previous videos. One tip if your up for trying it, Drone people always say UART whereas Arduino people nearly always say serial port but their the same thing.
@@richardamiss7000 yeah serial is a broad term, it just means the data is sent through a single communication channel hence SPI (Serial Peripheral Interface) is also serial communication as I2C probably is as well and USB definitely is (at least USB 2 is). Most commonly used communication methods on MCUs are serial.
@@conorstewart2214 Serial means just that, data arrives in series. Dshot is serial. Anything that is not parallel, which is practically nothing any longer, is serial comms. Nothing saying serial comms needs to be on one line. As an example USB is for sure serial, except it's differential signals which means it's two wire data. Now, is QUAD SPI serial, or is it parallel, or both?!
@@pontiacg445 loads of things are parallel and more are going parallel. HDMI is parallel, PCIe is parallel except from x1, USB 3 is parallel. Serial is still used plenty though, it is used in CAN networks in vehicles, USB 2, even wireless communications. I also never said that serial had to be on one line, I said "through a single communication channel", a differential pair is still just a single communication channel. Dual, quad and octo SPI is parallel, it uses multiple communication channels to transmit the data. Just like how USB 3 also uses multiple differential pairs now.
It would be nice if the FAA makes it mandatory for those people monitoring pilots on their phones to broadcast their location and ip address. This doesn’t solve the problem but it would also make them worried about monitoring drones. We don’t want them to know our location neither do they. It should add to our safety a little bit.
JB: Like for example the Rotor Riot office, we're gonna right click and we're gonna get the GPS coordinate, put that right here.... Somewhere in Florida: FAA!! DREW CAMDEN YOU'RE UNDER ARREST!!
FYI* RID is a global trend, not just US - Taiwan to require remote ID for all commercially sold drones - Remote Identification (Remote ID) was proposed to address the identification problem and has been put on CAAs’ agenda of UTM system development.Changsha, China - This paper is the first stage of public consultation on the potential introduction of Remote ID requirements for drones in Australia. - 30 Mar 2023 - European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) supports drone ... Be aware, that almost all drones must be equipped with Remote ID feature.
What I don't understand is why you would do through all these steps instead of just not complying at all? Just don't buy a module in the first place. I've been reasonably convinced that FPV drones weren't the FAA's main concern to begin with. The vast majority of FPV pilots don't comply with existing regs and rules (spotters, registration, Trust Test, etc) why would this be any different?
@@seattleitefpv They where part of faa justification as they could better keep track of them while there flipping around witch ironically is utter horse crap if you think about how fast fpv is beacase gps would be wildly inaccurate
It's worth noting that while this will work, it uses wifi, and Apple doesn't allow apps to use wifi properly to pull the info. This means that yes, this device will work - but if you're on iOS, none of the apps will pick it up.
Stupid question, but couldn't we just make the esp8266 node mcu work AS a RID if we wanted??? Not saying I want to comply, or will, but might be nice to make one for $10 ;)
ESP should be able to connect to your phone via Bluetooth or WIFI (if not this very board/processor in particular, then there are different ones with different capabilities). So depending on some specific details you should technically be able to share your phone's location via one of those protocols instead of soldering any GPS module. I didn't look at the code or specs yet, but here are possible limitations: - It may need to stop broadcasting during the setup. Depending on the board/processor it may be able to keep only one connection up - not exactly sure at the moment. - It may require a bit of extra work. Especially when using Bluetooth, there may be a need to create a separate app or come up with another solution. The ESP processors have a nice webserver feature, they also let you set up a custom WiFi access point, so you could connect to it's own WiFi, open a website (you can even give it a meaningful name e.g. spoofer.local/) on your phone, and it will serve you the settings page. I'm pretty sure webpages can request location from your phone. You can also set it up so it connects to your phone's WiFi whenever it's on and your phone is broadcasting an SSID. The code should work just fine on other ESP processors with some minor changes maybe. Well, basically I wanted to say that there are some solutions that are likely simpler and cheaper than soldering in a GPS module! Anyways, really cool content, as always! Happy I'm based in Europe, but EU often looks at what the US do with regulations, so who knows for how long we're going to stay clear of such solutions.
Why can't the phone itself not just generate the signal? Most phones have the ability to communicate two way via WiFi and Bluetooth. Wifi hotpots use the 2.4 band just like the RID network anyway...
@@nddn954 People use these in homes for "smart home" automation also. Led strips, Light sensors and the works. It wouldn't surprise me if some of that is popping up to some people as "drones" lmfao.
Okay so why do we have to have the remote ID thing on the drone.. couldn't that be handled with a gps sending coordinates back to the controller, then the controller hooks up to like your phone or something?
How would one power this? With usb portable charge bank or 2/3/4/6s battery? For educational purposes, of course. Is it possible to "name" the drones like "Karen B Gone" "Karen B Gone 2" "Never Gonna Give It Up 4"? Thank you for being awesome Joshua.
FYI - The naming, from the source code it is defined as 16 characters, first two char is country code so you will get country flag in drone scanner app.
Interfereing with a law enforcement investigation is the first of many charges you would be facing. I'm sure then the FAA would come up with some of their own and then call the FCC and then they would charge you with broadcast violations. You could end up in a heap of trouble.
also, this code might be possible to run on elrs module, so I think it's theoretically possible to use updates to spoof/comply remote ID using ratio or even reciever.
Couple things I learned today.... First, the github is updated, as is the code. It now has a WAP and web page where you can enter the Gps coordinates so you can do it "in the field". Second... I can't see it with my iPhone... Apps on the iPhone for getting "local" Remote ID that is broadcast with WiFi only, iPhone doesn't let an app have access. So, if you do use Remote ID, and want to have fewer people snooping, use one that only does WiFi type signals, and not Bluetooth.
Something tells me that the penalty for using a system like this is much greater than just not complying with RID regulations. And I'm sure that if you're caught, whomever catches you is going to be a lot less lenient with writing you up than if you just weren't complying.
Something tells me that this makes network rid more likely with people exploiting a known vulnerability. It’s a great excuse for the faa to go next level and a bad idea imo. If you don’t want to fly with rid then just do it and stay under the radar. Poking the bear is a bad idea.
@@SkeezyFPV FAA can’t stop this or anything else. They have no control over wifi or Bluetooth packets. Oh no, they will do “something worse” that they can’t enforce either.
since i quit flying FPV i just ike to chime in for hummor ELRS is the viagra of flying . they make it real hard . still love watching you guys keep going
Any reason we can't use an app on our phones to generate the signal? They all have GPS and the ability to communicate two way via WiFi and Bluetooth. Wifi hotpots use the 2.4 band just like the RID network too. I believe that if we don't add in a GPS location roughly matching the radio signal source, they could easily filter out the signals that don't tie into the GPS locations.
Many consumer electronics limit what can be accomplished with a piece of wireless hardware. Phones and wireless dongles are usually designed to do standard consumer functions and nothing more. While these pieces of hardware could technically output fancy non-standard signals, it would require them to be ripped from their carrier device and controlled by specialized hardware. Best to get something already rigged to do such things.
I'm reminded of a Judas Priest track... Anyways, thing to remember, a lot of signals are line of sight, so broadcasting the spoofed information from your location won't be as good as simply putting the spoofer on the drone. Also, rather than putting it in your car. Building small units that could be solar powered and placed up high in trees or on buildings to cover a region would be a more effective use than putting it in your car.
love this. I'm curious if maybe getting an ESP32 with onboard Bluetooth you could then show the board your location via your phones Bluetooth and it could create the Shadow drones based off of that? would it need an app to support? Just spit balling, thanks for the video.
your phone (Karen phone) will be too weak to detect those fake RID from far.... I done the test at 100m, It is very simmilar to scanning your neightbour wifi SSID 10 block away.
I'm concerned about RID as a female drone pilot. I don't want everyone with a smart phone knowing where I am so this little device could be a game changer for safety.
There are different class of RID. External ones does not transmit pilot position, only the one integral to the drone. But maybe im confusing with the EU variant
jjshoots just released a new revision of the sketch. He integrated a small webserver. Coordinates can now be added, and modified via the web UI. On a side note: I've been dealing with arduino since the dawn of the multiwii series of flight controllers. This sort of thing always gives me the giggles.
Disregarding the whole safety and security of the hobbyist side of the issue - one of the reasons I don't like the whole RID rule is the cost it will add to an already expensive hobby, the fact that you can toss together a module that outputs the RID info for $8-10, but you cannot get an "approved" module for less than about $100 - and most are closer to $200, highlights the financial burden the ruling adds to the general hobbyist. I Build and Fly Small Scale models, it used to be that I built 1:12 scale sized planes (for reference a 1:12 scale P-51 is about 36" wingspan), but now many of the models I build are Free flight conversions to R/C in sizes like 1:24 or 1:16 to try and stay below the 250g limit so I won't need to add a RID module to fly. Many of my models cost me about $100 or so to build... it actually typically costs a bit MORE to build these smaller planes than it did to build in the 1:12 scale size, but is still Way less than the cost to add an RID module to the larger plane.
Make a spoofer like this and set the location on your favorite zone... altitude 50 meters high.. (you wont see the drone anyway). Broadcast from your car and fly the drone. Maybe it is even possible to putt your info in the spoofer... exploitation number etc etc... And you got a legit drone with a legit remote ID ( but maybe a mile off track).
Keep in mind that jamming, altering, spoofing a RID signal in a restricted airspace (such as an airport, municipality etc) is considered national infrastructure - and therefore an act of terrorism. Nobody in the drone world is happy about RID, just be careful with the work arounds, and be aware of the consequences.
… think of this of a “radar detector” … yes, In some states they are “illegal” when being used… RID is gonna have a hard enough time locating “gps drones”.. trying to locate a small “module” sending spoofing info among all other things.. Local LEO are not going to bother Now… we just need to make sure this “info” stays available to us..
Could some smart hacker make a bit of malware that infects Bluetooth capable devices and Make them chirp out RID at random? A botnet like this would completely compromise the RID system.
could have it scan for remote id and figure out gps from that, or have it open a ap/webserver and connect to it from your phone and do a quick gps update...
well knowing the FAA they will next want to know where you are flying your flight simulator plane so this device might be good for helping out with that.
I have to say that I truly love your videos, they have become an important part of how i learn and relax, but this is the first one where I actually let out a genuine maniacal laugh, which is something that I almost never do! Thanks for bringing this to our attention, I had heard about this from a different channel but you got us the plans and details. In you video yesterday you said that it is unclear if this is illegal, after all they never said "dont broadcast RID content..." and I think most of us know how well that kind of crap seems to hold up when in court but still, why are they messing with my hobby? ?? Keeps me busy, keeps my mind active, keeps my imagination flowing, keeps me getting out of the house, keeps me from lots of bad stuff... I noted that rc was the center of my childhood and it truly got me through some tough times giving me something that couldn't be taken from me as my imagination of what i could do and would do one day was as big a part of the experience as anything. Is all of this for clear airspace for drone deliveries? Or drone taxi's, well we must be super close to having those after all why else ruin the fun for millions of people, right now, today, right?!??? This is truly sad, I do hope that clearer heads prevail and soon.
I just want to point this out because most people don’t know but an ESP32 is not the same as an ESP8266, the ESP32 is newer and generally better. I hope someone makes an ESP32 version soon.
It's not a spoofer, it's a RID receiver tester 😀
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So if everyone hooked these up to their cars so it was always powered, it would overwhelm the system, making a drone as hard to locate as needle in a stack of needles.
My car will be broadcasting by the end of the night.
In theory, the broadcast could happen from a smartphone and only an app would be required.
Well yes and no. This still hard encodes the GPS location so it would still only show the location you program. Your idea would work better by having the GPS location fed by an attached GPS module. That way it would always be broadcasting the spoofed ID in the area you are at.
Haystack, no? needle in a haystack
@@theskyisminefpv1218 I think they said needle in a stack of "needles" bcz they would all be the same. Hiding the Drone around a bunch of (fake) drones rather than trying to hide it in a pile of something else. But yes, I think haystack would also work and get the point across.
Are remote ID serial numbers intended to be publicly available info? If so, the system has major security risk - if anyone can take that ID and use in a spoofing program to simulate your aircraft. No remote ID based evidence will ever hold up in court. Presume this could be the downfall of the whole system?
It's so dumb. Identification should only be accessable to authorities. People should only be able to report drones anonymously and the authorities can reveal the information and use their discretion whether there are any laws being broken. Civilians should not be able to have the info to be vigilantes.
As for legitimacy when spoofing exists, if cryptography is used to sign beacon packets, legitimacy could be verified. But again, cryptography should also protect the privacy of the drone pilot from civilians. The pilot database should not be public either.
@@benargeeThere’s nothing in the ATSM standard for RID signals to incorporate cryptographic signatures. The mere fact that this exists completely invalidates RID as evidence of anything.
People use these in homes for "smart home" automation also. Led strips, Light sensors and the works. It wouldn't surprise me if some of that is popping up to some people as "drones" lmfao.
@@crisnmaryfam7344 You really your joke is funny enough to post on three different comments?
@@knight907 wow, not only are the IDs made public, there's also no cryptographic signing over timestamp, location and ID? I had a feeling the system was dumb, but this dumb... speechless.
Gotta love Open Source! Good job Arduino dudes. Can’t wait to see how this evolves and it will! Set it out somewhere in the general area, but not near where you are standing.
The fact the esp can transmit the rid protocol gives me hope. Much cheaper than off the shelf modules to start, and I could see a variation of this project which shows the required rid information but with some obfuscated or filtered information - a happy medium between compliance and noncompliance perhaps?
It kind of sucks that you can't just buy/lease a RID transponder code from the FAA, because then you could easily make a DIY RID module and comply.
@@lavachemist it will be the FAA trying to prevent things like this. If they only let authorised manufacturers have a code then they can control it more.
It is a good idea if they allow it. They may make it a requirement to have a certified remote ID module from specific manufacturers with no tampering.
The FAA has already shown that they only want authorized "tamperproof" modules to be allowed as compliant. Despite the fact that DIY'ers have shown that they can easily spoof or even perfectly replicate the functions for less, that's just too cheap and easy for the likes of such bureaucrats.
Only if we had a dump of all of the codes, oh wait we already do.
I'm gonna find the nearest hornet's nest and set it as a ground station. 😁
and then fly to very illegal levels so they come over 😂😂
This is perhaps the most legally miachevious video ive ever seen you post. I love it.
This is a good first attempt. It can and should get a lot better than this. It would probably be worth them switching to ESP32 since they are more powerful. You can get ones with external antennas and there shouldn’t be any issues adding a GPS module to it. A potentially good board to use would be the XIAO with the ESP32C3. It has an external antenna and is tiny. If size isn’t important then any ESP32 board with external antenna would be a good option. ESP32 boards also have Bluetooth so you could create a phone app to alter settings like GPS coordinates, number of drones, etc if you wanted.
According to the github page, it looks like they've already added ESP32 support.
There are ESP32 boards with a GPS module on board.
JB, love your content. I am watching the evolution of RID. There is definitely going to be/is a market for Karen Countermeasures. That's all I will say, to go on, it would cut into hours of flying time.... Keep up the great content!
From what I've been seeing the RID modules only have a range of about 200 to 500 ft from the aircraft. I can see the ones with the 200 ft range becoming the best sellers.😎👍
Some people are commenting that this is definitely illegal. I'm not convinced. I'm not a lawyer, and you're probably not a lawyer either, and the person whose video you're probably quoting when you say it's illegal -- he isn't a lawyer either, and he's not even a U.S. resident. So let's all just take a big step back and think about this.
Could this be illegal under some "interfering with a system" law? Yup. If the government wants to screw you over, they will find some law to charge you with. Look at what happened to Aaron Swartz (link: bit.ly/3ronrJB).
But it's not a given that using the RemoteID spoofer is illegal. Consider this: intentionally jamming RF signals is illegal, right? Yes. If I were to get a microwave oven and put it in the middle of a shopping mall and turn it on with the express intent of jamming wifi in the mall, that would be illegal. But if I was making a cup of tea with that same microwave oven, that would not be illegal, because my intent is to make a cup of tea, not to interfere with the system.
So any law that hinges on intent to interfere requires the government to prove your intent.
In addition, the Spoofer does not prevent the RemoteID system from working. Legitimate RemoteID broadcasts are still transmitted and received, and all RemoteID systems work correctly. What if I was to do the same thing by buying 15 DJI Avatas and plugging them all in so they broadcast RemoteID information? Would that be illegal? What if I was to do the same thing by hiring 15 friends to come hover the DJI Avatas in the area while I fly? Is that illegal? Obviously not, even though the effect is exactly the same as with this RemoteID spoofer.
My point is that there is no law that requires RemoteID trasmissions to be sent only be an actual SUAS (as far as I know). Any way that the gov tries to make this illegal will hinge on their interpretation of your intent, and intent can be difficult to prove if you just keep your mouth shut. BUT if you get into a situation where you have to defend your intent against the gov, you're probably already in deep shit, so better to just not get in that situation in the first place.
The intent of broadcasting decoy signals is obviously to defeat the utility of RID for those who would use it. I can't imagine any ather interpretation. However, interestingly, it uses spectrum and corresponding equipment that is type certified for unlicensed general purpose use. Not the case for ADSB which has its own spectrum and dedicated equipment. So you're clean(Ish) with the FCC, sorta.
Yet I wouldn't put it past some prosecutor to cook up any kind if charge - maybe some kind of terrorism? for inducing panic, perhaps...
xjet recently made a video showing how they could ding you for doing this.
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@TheCablebill the inducing panic argument implies that all drones are scary, which could be spun into the govt is inducing panic by releasing this app and system.
The intent with this is obvious other that you’re testing rid detectors.
But if you put it near an airport you’re easily screwed and it’s not legal.
>Any way that the gov tries to make this illegal will hinge on their interpretation of your intent, and intent can be difficult to prove if you just keep your mouth shut.
Yeah, you got that right. You didn't keep your mouth shut at all and your video leaves no room for any other interpretation from your side. I can't imagine publishing a video like this will be very beneficial your channel (in light of YTs Harmful or dangerous content policies and people not liking you as a person reporting this video). That said, I respect that you did it and I wish more "content creators" were like you. Kudos.
ADSB isn't on a frequency set aside for private use like Bluetooth and Wifi are. I am pretty sure the reason you can't spoof ADSB legally is that you can't broadcast legally on those frequencies unless it is for ADSB, which has been blessed by the FCC as well as the FAA. The FAA does not own the frequencies at play here and likely has over stepped their authority by co-opting them for air traffic control.
Transmitting “harmful interference” is illegal no matter what band it’s on. Playing with fire here, moreso than flying a drone without an ID.
What a great use for all the esp’s I have left over from making slime trackers! Thanks
You can easily run this off a solar panel & small battery and then put them in lots of places...
Not like they cost a lot.
Love this idea you could add a pi 0 to turn it on and off too so it's hard to locate
in theory, you have also given information on how to build your own RID module for legit purposes for those who wish to comply, but cant afford a certified device. Yes, it wont fit the letter of the law, but could get your local PD to simply walk away.
The issue is getting a legitimate serial number to go with it. I guess a person could buy a single real module, then just spoof their own real number off of non-compliant modules for cheaper.
@@jaysonrees738 excelent point. put the same serial on each quad
there are RID project with ardupilot, but your DIY RID wont get approve by FAA because it is not tamper-proof. It is only possible to do it by manufacturers and cheap ESP chip.
@@tk-maker the point is to keep local pd satisfied to not escalate to faa
@@tk-maker put tamper proof screws on it and it magically becomes tamper proof
I like the way you think! Bless you! As a patriot, I subscribed immediately.
Finally a product related to RID I can get behind.
What happens when one of these modules gets turned on inside an airport? Are they gonna call Bruce Willis out of retirement?
Install that on the aircraft, should increase the range if up in the air. The NodeMCU doesn't use much power and it's pretty small, power it from the flight battery, add an antenna.
Looks like I'll be using this for my remote id😆
And it's way cheaper than a rid unit
@@MrCottonmouth it depends if you are allowed to make your own or if you have to buy an FAA certified one. If you have to buy an FAA certified one then there is no point trying to make your own because it will be as bad as flying without one.
@@conorstewart2214 Technically it would probably be worse if they caught you, but how many cops do you know of that can tell the difference between a real RID module and a fake? You could probably point at your RX and they'd believe you. Even an FAA official might not know without looking up what's authorized.
I realize this may not be a good idea, but it's fun to imagine.
FYI, the Usage section of the readme shows how to enter your own GPS coords (as of the time of this writing.) TL;DR: within 2 minutes of turning on the device, go to a local URI and enter your coordinates. After 2 minutes, it starts spoofing.
If remote ID were anything NEAR constitutional, I wouldn't object. But CLEARLY it violates the first amendment freedom of press clause that means they can't infringe on public photography. Also it violates the fourth amendment. You do not have to provide ID if you are not doing anything illegal, so screw this law at the molecular level! All good wishes.
I remember the wild west in 2013 with my Blade Qx 350 flying with that old gopro. No rules, pure fun .
First of all, this is awesome. I'm an old guy, so i have already purchased the actual RID module ($140)
But I'd love one of these because the park we fly at is filled with karens. Looks complicated for a guy that has difficulty resetting his microwave clock display.
Someone needs to start selling testers/training devices so Karen can learn how to use the "drone finder app" on her phone.
I bet Karen would pay $50 to help keep the world safe from fun.
Nobody would ever use such a device to prevent Karen from her self-appointed duties.
Probably important to be able to set altitude, speed and gps fence for the 'training drones' so the training app can ensure that Karen understands how to use her app.
Sweet secret unlisted video here! Definitely doing this! Xoxoxo
This is only an educational video!! Lol awesome. Thanks JB
I even mod the code for random RF power, trust me not practical. but is is fun.
the silent finger flicking at the end was great, haha.
On a unrelated note, small 5v solar panels could probably output decent wattage...
Small solar battery banks, add an antenna and put it in a waterproof container and just scatter them around all the places you fly 😂
Man !!! I don’t understand half of what you explained but it sounds so cool !! All I understand there’s a way to get everybody’s nose off of my drone hobby, GREAT CONTENT my man !!! Keep it up cause I’m going to get to know your ideas and put them into practice . Thank you!!!
I am a HAM radio guy and EE. The frequency spectrum is very carefully allocated by the FCC. Both Bluetooth and WiFi are open public parts of the spectrum. FAA can make all the rules they want but these are public frequencies. I see no way they can keep people from using them anyway they want, e.g. spoofing. I used to fly in a park in the Phoenix, AZ area. One side of it had a bunch of homes with WiFi in them. We would consistently get interference with video when flying near them. How is this different than this ESP32 project? The FAA is way out of it league on this.
For another example of the FAA vs the FCC read up on the radio altimeter mess that full scale aviation is dealing with. The FAA tried force cell companies to abandon frequencies they had just paid big bucks for because of possible interference with poorly designed radio altimeters. After lots of posturing the FAA lost, the radio altimeters have to be updated to filter out the cell phone frequencies. This should have been the case from the start but the radio altimeter manufacturers wanted to save some $'s and did poor design. They got away with for a long time as no one was on the adjacent frequencies, now that has changed.
I'm going to have to put one of these onboard each of my drones. 😉
I have plenty of ESP8266 modules that have been just laying around waiting for a fun project.
Could do some accent lighting in your house. Ive watched a lot of videos now of people using these modules to run smart home automation stuff. Motion sensors turning lights on, or to control multiple LED strips similar (or identical to) how a Govee LED system works.
There was an update to the code.
It lets the ESP open own access point for wlan the first 30 seconds or so, where you can add own gps coordinates.
The node is used in ws2811 pixels, too. Another hobby of mine. I could program and see if i could do two in one!
You can buy ESP8266 boards with connections for external antenna ( Wemos D1 Mini Pro) I've only tested these over short distances though.
First off this uses WiFi+Bluetooth and I believe we are for the most part free to broadcast anything we want in those bands as long as the transmit power level restrictions are followed. And keep in mind its not just WiFi and Bluetooth that operate in these frequencies, other devices such as microwaves, cordless phones, ZigBee are among the list of things that operate in this frequency ranges and this is by no means a complete list and the ability to regulate that is not up to the FAA but actually falls under the FCC.
Also if this is legal to do, whats to stop a non pilot from flashing a bunch of these and just simulating them for no reason? with no actual drone in the air or doing it around a pilot they don't know. This will again just muddy the waters so to speak. I could see attaching these to a terrestrial bound RC car and using a GPS to update the center of the fake drone swarm.
A nice 3 pack was just purchased... Thanks JB
I have used the ESP8266 and ESP32 boards for some IOT projects like temperature and humidity sensors. They are dev boards similar to Arduino boards.
I'm pretty sure you can get a GPS module that would communicate with these boards.
It's also possible to modify the code so that you could configure the GPS coordinates on a webpage, instead of having to recompile the program to change the coordinates.
I would think it would be illegal to spoof ADS-B data, but it's just an unencrypted data packet, so it wouldn't be hard to do.
Yes, I2C or UART, NEMA or UBX protocol makes it really straight forward. I prefer Ublox UBX since you can receive only the data you want without all the NEMA sentence noise. With UBX you can pull data when ready instead of polling for data.
Desolder the resistor right before the antenna and solder an sma cable to the empty pcb slot next to old resistor. Solder shield to ground. Use AT command to bump wifi module power up to 100mw. Use a high gain antenna or a better cp antenna. You will get pretty decent range. You can always add a cheap power Amp to the sma then your antenna on the other end of the Amp. Will carry a half mile to a mile plus on just a dipole and set to 100mw.
Adding a GPS is a pretty easy change. You need half a dozen lines of c code to pull the location out of the GPS data and drop it in the existing location definition. My guess is it will take you a couple hours of googling to figger it out. Everything else you need to do I've seen you do in previous videos.
One tip if your up for trying it, Drone people always say UART whereas Arduino people nearly always say serial port but their the same thing.
This is correct for Arduinos and Drones, but a UART is not always synonymous with Serial. A UART is a serial port, but not all serial ports are UARTs.
@@richardamiss7000 yeah serial is a broad term, it just means the data is sent through a single communication channel hence SPI (Serial Peripheral Interface) is also serial communication as I2C probably is as well and USB definitely is (at least USB 2 is). Most commonly used communication methods on MCUs are serial.
@@richardamiss7000 Agree, every interest group bodges up the terminology in there own way.
@@conorstewart2214 Serial means just that, data arrives in series. Dshot is serial. Anything that is not parallel, which is practically nothing any longer, is serial comms.
Nothing saying serial comms needs to be on one line. As an example USB is for sure serial, except it's differential signals which means it's two wire data.
Now, is QUAD SPI serial, or is it parallel, or both?!
@@pontiacg445 loads of things are parallel and more are going parallel. HDMI is parallel, PCIe is parallel except from x1, USB 3 is parallel. Serial is still used plenty though, it is used in CAN networks in vehicles, USB 2, even wireless communications.
I also never said that serial had to be on one line, I said "through a single communication channel", a differential pair is still just a single communication channel.
Dual, quad and octo SPI is parallel, it uses multiple communication channels to transmit the data. Just like how USB 3 also uses multiple differential pairs now.
This seems like a good way to get the FCC involved in cracking down on FPV pilots too
I have an ESP32 with BT 5. Let me try that for better range. Or is this broadcasted via pcb antenna?
It would be nice if the FAA makes it mandatory for those people monitoring pilots on their phones to broadcast their location and ip address. This doesn’t solve the problem but it would also make them worried about monitoring drones. We don’t want them to know our location neither do they. It should add to our safety a little bit.
Did Amazon already sell out of these in an hour?
JB: Like for example the Rotor Riot office, we're gonna right click and we're gonna get the GPS coordinate, put that right here....
Somewhere in Florida: FAA!! DREW CAMDEN YOU'RE UNDER ARREST!!
Every modeler and FPV pilot should walk around with these on their keychain. Flooding the remote ID system would be the best way to protest the law!
FYI* RID is a global trend, not just US
- Taiwan to require remote ID for all commercially sold drones
- Remote Identification (Remote ID) was proposed to address the identification problem and has been put on CAAs’ agenda of UTM system development.Changsha, China
- This paper is the first stage of public consultation on the potential introduction of Remote ID requirements for drones in Australia.
- 30 Mar 2023 - European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) supports drone ... Be aware, that almost all drones must be equipped with Remote ID feature.
Can't wait for the lawsuits. I guarantee the FAA will cry about this.
for anyone interested, there's special watch with this module.
It would be sick to have this installed on the EPS32 module from the HDZero googles, broadcasting some fake pilot positions evry time I turn them on.
Josh, this video has a big blank-ish section on the end.
Thanks. I'm fixing it.
What I don't understand is why you would do through all these steps instead of just not complying at all? Just don't buy a module in the first place. I've been reasonably convinced that FPV drones weren't the FAA's main concern to begin with. The vast majority of FPV pilots don't comply with existing regs and rules (spotters, registration, Trust Test, etc) why would this be any different?
yes, just dont buy it! full stop!
I have an ESP32 with BT 5. Let me try that for better range. Or is this broadcasted via pcb antenna? Then see if I can port that over to micropython.
I could see this leading to ban of fpv in general...
All I need to make an fpv is a 3d printer a esp chip and some copper wire mount a camera to that
This device has nothing to do with FPV in particular.
@@seattleitefpv They where part of faa justification as they could better keep track of them while there flipping around witch ironically is utter horse crap if you think about how fast fpv is beacase gps would be wildly inaccurate
It's worth noting that while this will work, it uses wifi, and Apple doesn't allow apps to use wifi properly to pull the info. This means that yes, this device will work - but if you're on iOS, none of the apps will pick it up.
Which is also true for actual remote id.
Stupid question, but couldn't we just make the esp8266 node mcu work AS a RID if we wanted??? Not saying I want to comply, or will, but might be nice to make one for $10 ;)
ESP should be able to connect to your phone via Bluetooth or WIFI (if not this very board/processor in particular, then there are different ones with different capabilities). So depending on some specific details you should technically be able to share your phone's location via one of those protocols instead of soldering any GPS module.
I didn't look at the code or specs yet, but here are possible limitations:
- It may need to stop broadcasting during the setup. Depending on the board/processor it may be able to keep only one connection up - not exactly sure at the moment.
- It may require a bit of extra work. Especially when using Bluetooth, there may be a need to create a separate app or come up with another solution. The ESP processors have a nice webserver feature, they also let you set up a custom WiFi access point, so you could connect to it's own WiFi, open a website (you can even give it a meaningful name e.g. spoofer.local/) on your phone, and it will serve you the settings page. I'm pretty sure webpages can request location from your phone. You can also set it up so it connects to your phone's WiFi whenever it's on and your phone is broadcasting an SSID.
The code should work just fine on other ESP processors with some minor changes maybe.
Well, basically I wanted to say that there are some solutions that are likely simpler and cheaper than soldering in a GPS module!
Anyways, really cool content, as always! Happy I'm based in Europe, but EU often looks at what the US do with regulations, so who knows for how long we're going to stay clear of such solutions.
I have read europe will be introducing remoteid in early 2024.
Why can't the phone itself not just generate the signal? Most phones have the ability to communicate two way via WiFi and Bluetooth. Wifi hotpots use the 2.4 band just like the RID network anyway...
@@SueMyChin Because Phone software doesn't give you such low level access to output something other then wifi from it's radio chip.
EASA UAS legal framework mentions remote identification several times, so it's definitely coming
@@nddn954 People use these in homes for "smart home" automation also. Led strips, Light sensors and the works. It wouldn't surprise me if some of that is popping up to some people as "drones" lmfao.
ESPs are so amazing... There r some fun home assistant stuff, WLED for controlling led strips, and SO MUCH MORE
Okay so why do we have to have the remote ID thing on the drone.. couldn't that be handled with a gps sending coordinates back to the controller, then the controller hooks up to like your phone or something?
Love your videos! Very informative. Just subscribed !
Tomorrow Joshua, omg there's 10 million drones over my house!🤣
How would one power this? With usb portable charge bank or 2/3/4/6s battery? For educational purposes, of course.
Is it possible to "name" the drones like "Karen B Gone" "Karen B Gone 2" "Never Gonna Give It Up 4"?
Thank you for being awesome Joshua.
The nodeMCU is regulated with Ams1117 voltage regulator chip with v range 5-12v, you needs a BEC or draw from FC.
FYI - The naming, from the source code it is defined as 16 characters, first two char is country code so you will get country flag in drone scanner app.
I wonder if you could hack the app using malicious drone names
Interfereing with a law enforcement investigation is the first of many charges you would be facing. I'm sure then the FAA would come up with some of their own and then call the FCC and then they would charge you with broadcast violations. You could end up in a heap of trouble.
Cool. Don't do it then.
Wonder if the flipper zero could have an addon bord made for this
All of those files JB has blurred out are all AI generated NSFW Images😅
also, this code might be possible to run on elrs module, so I think it's theoretically possible to use updates to spoof/comply remote ID using ratio or even reciever.
Yeap. That what I was talking about. And those modifications aren't that hard either.
Anyway, thanks, Joshua! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Couple things I learned today.... First, the github is updated, as is the code. It now has a WAP and web page where you can enter the Gps coordinates so you can do it "in the field". Second... I can't see it with my iPhone... Apps on the iPhone for getting "local" Remote ID that is broadcast with WiFi only, iPhone doesn't let an app have access. So, if you do use Remote ID, and want to have fewer people snooping, use one that only does WiFi type signals, and not Bluetooth.
And I can even run it on an esp8266? My favorite microcontroller ever? That's the icing on the cake 😎
Something tells me that the penalty for using a system like this is much greater than just not complying with RID regulations. And I'm sure that if you're caught, whomever catches you is going to be a lot less lenient with writing you up than if you just weren't complying.
yup, distrubing authorities doing their job, get ready for felony!!!
Could always rig it with rubber gloves and magnet it to the bottom of a random car. That'd throw em for a loop! Of course, I'd never do such a thing!
Plant them on cop cars. 😂😂😂
Something tells me that this makes network rid more likely with people exploiting a known vulnerability. It’s a great excuse for the faa to go next level and a bad idea imo. If you don’t want to fly with rid then just do it and stay under the radar. Poking the bear is a bad idea.
@@SkeezyFPV FAA can’t stop this or anything else. They have no control over wifi or Bluetooth packets. Oh no, they will do “something worse” that they can’t enforce either.
since i quit flying FPV i just ike to chime in for hummor
ELRS is the viagra of flying . they make it real hard . still love watching you guys keep going
Awesome. Jb I loved the mastermind laugh 😂 mwah ha ha ha ha👏🏻
Any reason we can't use an app on our phones to generate the signal? They all have GPS and the ability to communicate two way via WiFi and Bluetooth. Wifi hotpots use the 2.4 band just like the RID network too.
I believe that if we don't add in a GPS location roughly matching the radio signal source, they could easily filter out the signals that don't tie into the GPS locations.
Phones don’t allow low level access to the wifi chip, MCUs do.
@@conorstewart2214 Ahh, so they would need to be rooted or something if it was even possible at all.
@@SueMyChin it probably isn't possible using any form of OS. It just isn't really feasible to do on phones.
Many consumer electronics limit what can be accomplished with a piece of wireless hardware. Phones and wireless dongles are usually designed to do standard consumer functions and nothing more. While these pieces of hardware could technically output fancy non-standard signals, it would require them to be ripped from their carrier device and controlled by specialized hardware. Best to get something already rigged to do such things.
@@jaysonrees738 Thanks for the clarifications
I'm reminded of a Judas Priest track...
Anyways, thing to remember, a lot of signals are line of sight, so broadcasting the spoofed information from your location won't be as good as simply putting the spoofer on the drone. Also, rather than putting it in your car. Building small units that could be solar powered and placed up high in trees or on buildings to cover a region would be a more effective use than putting it in your car.
love this. I'm curious if maybe getting an ESP32 with onboard Bluetooth you could then show the board your location via your phones Bluetooth and it could create the Shadow drones based off of that? would it need an app to support? Just spit balling, thanks for the video.
I will definitely never use spoffing.🙂 And it will start sending fake drones as soon as you plug it in?
I would never have 4 of them running at the same time 🎉
@@airgunningcolorado78 And I would never make them solar powered so they can be placed all over and turn on every day when the sun comes up..
your phone (Karen phone) will be too weak to detect those fake RID from far.... I done the test at 100m, It is very simmilar to scanning your neightbour wifi SSID 10 block away.
I'm concerned about RID as a female drone pilot. I don't want everyone with a smart phone knowing where I am so this little device could be a game changer for safety.
You worry about male stalkers. We worry about a tyrannical police state. Your concerns suddenly seem small, don't they?
There are different class of RID. External ones does not transmit pilot position, only the one integral to the drone. But maybe im confusing with the EU variant
@@Willy_Tepes Only if you think rape and murder of innocent females are trivial. Do you?
@@sinebar In comparison to a police state, yes. If that picture is you, you do not have to worry.
@videoleech Like worrying about hair loss at Chernobyl.
Called it! Told a friend two days ago it wouldn't take a dev/coder long to come out with this.
Aaaaannnnnd just like that, several hundred thousand non existent drones appear. Good luck tracking all those 😂
The guy whos Github is linked in the description has just ordered an ESP32 and hopes to bring support for that as well!
jjshoots just released a new revision of the sketch. He integrated a small webserver. Coordinates can now be added, and modified via the web UI.
On a side note: I've been dealing with arduino since the dawn of the multiwii series of flight controllers. This sort of thing always gives me the giggles.
Disregarding the whole safety and security of the hobbyist side of the issue -
one of the reasons I don't like the whole RID rule is the cost it will add to an already expensive hobby, the fact that you can toss together a module that outputs the RID info for $8-10, but you cannot get an "approved" module for less than about $100 - and most are closer to $200, highlights the financial burden the ruling adds to the general hobbyist.
I Build and Fly Small Scale models, it used to be that I built 1:12 scale sized planes (for reference a 1:12 scale P-51 is about 36" wingspan), but now many of the models I build are Free flight conversions to R/C in sizes like 1:24 or 1:16 to try and stay below the 250g limit so I won't need to add a RID module to fly. Many of my models cost me about $100 or so to build... it actually typically costs a bit MORE to build these smaller planes than it did to build in the 1:12 scale size, but is still Way less than the cost to add an RID module to the larger plane.
Make a spoofer like this and set the location on your favorite zone... altitude 50 meters high.. (you wont see the drone anyway).
Broadcast from your car and fly the drone.
Maybe it is even possible to putt your info in the spoofer... exploitation number etc etc...
And you got a legit drone with a legit remote ID ( but maybe a mile off track).
Keep in mind that jamming, altering, spoofing a RID signal in a restricted airspace (such as an airport, municipality etc) is considered national infrastructure - and therefore an act of terrorism. Nobody in the drone world is happy about RID, just be careful with the work arounds, and be aware of the consequences.
… think of this of a “radar detector” … yes, In some states they are “illegal” when being used…
RID is gonna have a hard enough time locating “gps drones”.. trying to locate a small “module” sending spoofing info among all other things.. Local LEO are not going to bother
Now… we just need to make sure this “info” stays available to us..
This has been thought of. FAA will consider this disrupting government operations. Same if you do a denial of service attack on their server.
VERY IMFORMATIVE!! Sending it to others!!!😜
Bardwell, where did you get that cinnamon-whoop shirt?
6:47 : im quite sure you can get board with a ufl connector so you can put any antenna you want on it
Anybody seen Serenity? "Cry baby, cry! Make your mother sigh..."
Shiny.
Could some smart hacker make a bit of malware that infects Bluetooth capable devices and Make them chirp out RID at random? A botnet like this would completely compromise the RID system.
We just need a phone app and we're sorted though
could have it scan for remote id and figure out gps from that, or have it open a ap/webserver and connect to it from your phone and do a quick gps update...
Can I use this to Make *my* UAV's RID always be below 400 feet and within 100 yards (LoS) of me? 😏
well knowing the FAA they will next want to know where you are flying your flight simulator plane so this device might be good for helping out with that.
Nice I bought one years ago and now I have a use for it! Lol
Big opportunity for a person to make a custom RID masking box, with GPS and antenna included.
I have to say that I truly love your videos, they have become an important part of how i learn and relax, but this is the first one where I actually let out a genuine maniacal laugh, which is something that I almost never do! Thanks for bringing this to our attention, I had heard about this from a different channel but you got us the plans and details. In you video yesterday you said that it is unclear if this is illegal, after all they never said "dont broadcast RID content..." and I think most of us know how well that kind of crap seems to hold up when in court but still, why are they messing with my hobby? ??
Keeps me busy, keeps my mind active, keeps my imagination flowing, keeps me getting out of the house, keeps me from lots of bad stuff... I noted that rc was the center of my childhood and it truly got me through some tough times giving me something that couldn't be taken from me as my imagination of what i could do and would do one day was as big a part of the experience as anything.
Is all of this for clear airspace for drone deliveries? Or drone taxi's, well we must be super close to having those after all why else ruin the fun for millions of people, right now, today, right?!??? This is truly sad, I do hope that clearer heads prevail and soon.
32 min out, and that device is sold out from Amazon 😢
Edit: This is odd. The video is out 35 minutes and I see 20h old comments.
It’s been released to his Patreon first I suspect
Dynamic GPS+ Strong Antenna would make this the perfect civil disobedience device
i got the esp32 i use for controlling rgb strips in my room, its a great little board with so much functionality
I just want to point this out because most people don’t know but an ESP32 is not the same as an ESP8266, the ESP32 is newer and generally better. I hope someone makes an ESP32 version soon.
Loving this video. Thanks Joshua! 😂
You could put this on your drone. So the swarm of fake drones is picked up where ever your quad is picked up.