WHY A FADE IS EASIER THAN A DRAW
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Golf Shot: Why The Fade Is Easier Than A Draw
What is the easier shot to hit in golf? The fade or the Draw? Well, its simple, its the fade and this is true for many of the top golfers of all time. Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus both hit fades and there's a very good reason for this.
To hit a draw, you need 2 flaws in your golf swing; a slide and a strong grip. If you have all day, every day to be able to practice your swing then you can get this timed like some pros do. But if you are the average golfer then you want to go to the easier shot; the fade.
You want to set up aiming just left of your target (for the right handed golfer) and then with a slightly open clubface the golf ball will have slight side spin on it and you can then hit your fade. The ball will come in higher and softer and this means you can aim for more flags in your round of golf.
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Knowledge is power. 6 months new to golf here. I began with a heat-seeking missile of a slice in Aug, 2021. Embarked on an expedition to discover the lost draw of Montezuma. Over-corrected and unearthed the rarest prehistoric Duck-hook (sigh) in history. In an attempt to find inner peace I began vacillating between the hook and the slice like a metronome in a SKA band. Watched a ton of videos recently on Draw v Fade and yours is the first to help me understand that I'm not a societal scourge if I want to play a fade. I had this impending feeling that my family might surprise me with a "fade" intervention during thanksgiving dinner. All is well now, thanks for the tip. Please pass the bread and butter.
Curing slices is so easy. 10 mins. and that's if you're a slow learner. Watch me do it: www.paulwilsongolf.com/cure-slice
Thanks Paul. I'd swear you made this video just for me. Recently went to a fade and discovered what the centre of the fairway looks like again. Excellently explained!
Fantastic!
This was an absolute eureka moment for me. Always hit draw and it gets me into so much trouble, looks beautiful when it's perfect (so many comments about my ball flight which had me made me as a blind follower of that shot path), but it was horrible when i don't, either a brutal pull hook left or block right. Went to the range and i noticed not only was i hitting the middle, i was also hitting the face more consistently as fault of mine is a closed club face at impact. Taking this to the course this week. 100% sure this help me crack 80.
Glad you got it! So many people doing this draw with no success. Glad I could get you on track.
same.
In general i like being square to my target like and swinging down the line with this new body method and focusing on hip turn and hinging unhinging...im hitting it well....i can draw/hook the ball if im in left rough trying to turn it back into fairway if like i have to go around a bush/tree/ and i have to draw it....thats it....i understand this last video....i have tried to hit a fade by doing what you said...set up square to target then open my stance and swing along my body line....???...do you still release the club the same?...hinge and unhinge?....when i do this the ball tends to stay straight along my body line left of the target?...with no fade?..almost feel like i have to hold off the release to keep the club open during the strike? To make it fade.....ideally the club should be open at impact with that open stance...but as i release it feel like im going to double cross myself? Ball ends up a pull w/o the fade component....i see tour players like rohm/ morikawa who set up for their fade then it goes left/pull w/o the fade component?...whats happening?
Yes, I still release it. I am not holding it off. As I said in my previous reply just overdo it then back if off. Easier than trying to make it perfect right away. Yeah the fear of double crossing is in there which is why if you overdo it you don't see that shot. Then you get used to it always falling right. Then as you get better you trust it as you reduce the amount of curvature. They aim left and swing left. Face is open to the path so it fades back. Just had a big argument with 2 guys about it. We are talking degrees here. Aim left. Swing left. Then open the face until the ball fades the amount you want it to fade. Nicklaus set up with the face open. He has said this many times over the years. Start off with too much. Get used to it. Then reduce. You can hit it straight too if that is the shot you want. Totally up to you. Just saying how I got it many years ago. Another way you could do it is set up square. Open the face a little. As you hit shots you will see them all fall right. Then aim left. Whatever works.
maybe you have pull hook not a draw LOL
With your neutral grip and changing to the fade ... I now play from the fairway 90% and really never practice ...about 20 balls before my round. I'm 64 and play to a 8.8 index and playing the best golf of my life. Thanks Paul you are the best teacher and break things down very simply which really is the key.
Nice work! That draw is so tough. Glad you made the switch.
I just started opening my stance a little with my Driver and long irons. Oh my gosh the difference it made.
Great. Just what you needed.
Thank you for sharing this,that was just my intention 🙏
This video convinced me to stop looking for a draw with my driver, I’ve tried and tried and just can’t, but I can hit a fade all day long; have wasted a lot of time tryin got find the draw where I could have been working on my game…chipping and putting. Funny though I can hit a draw at will with my irons, the driver is just so hard to find that draw. Thanks
Glad you came to your senses. If you can't get it stop looking for it. Driver is longer. Takes longer to square versus irons. Plus irons have offset. Driver has none.
Man I hit a draw great 90pc of the time but the loose a couple right each round and it kills me. I need to go to the fade.
Absolutely fantastic video. I’ve been hitting a draw that just recently started being hard to predict, often duck hooking. I’ll be making the adjustments for fades. Great explanation.
Thanks. That draw is so hard and frustrating. Now you can have way more fun, have no pressure and be able to play with minimal practice.
18+ handicapper here seeming to always be in the verge of a breakthrough: my hand eye coordination is just average and I can never control the club face when it is closed to the path. Finding this video might just be confirmation bias but it sure does give me hope!
Thank you Paul, you gave me so much clarity on the benefits of fade.. Recently, i've made a change from draw to fade and swinging golf club was never been so much easier & alot more consistent!..The miss was never as bad as draw, however changing to fade cost my drive distance from 320yrds to 300/310yrds, but it finds fairway almost all the time! (Which i take it anytime) ....Now it makes sense why fading feels so much more natural to me since i have neutral (to slightly weak) grip
Good stuff. After years away from the game, I’ve been playing a bit more but extremely inconsistent trying to play a draw. Started hitting the fade last night in the middle of practice round and was amazed at how much simpler my swing felt and hit some of the best shots that I’ve had in recent memory. Bread and butter from here on out!
Yes that draw is tough. Takes consistent and constant work. If you don't have time then the fade is the shot.
Facts. I used to play a draw, but hooks are frustrating. You'll lose a few yards with a fade, but you'll always know where your shot is going
For sure. It's great to work on a draw to understand the swing but once you get it favoring a fade is way easier.
Paul, Thank You for this advice. 40 years ago when i started playing, i borrowed my fathers clubs who was LH. I hit a consistant baby draw nearly from the hop. As a switch hitter in baseball, playing lefty did not seem un- natural and so it began. As time went by my father and brothers thought i would have more options in equipment if i played from the right side and so they helped me make the transition. Gone was the draw and a fade or nasty slice took it's place. But i quickly learned that only my worst shots were ob. Most everything else was playable. Still, i chased the draw and played poorly for years. Nowadays, i do not fight it, and i am playing the best i ever have. So thank you for the video...if only id seen this or listened 35 years ago. I think i would have enjoyed the golf i played much much more.
I love teaching lefties. They get it way faster than righties. Too bad you switched. Glad you settled in with it and got it. Slight fade is the easier shot for sure.
Great information. I’ve been trying to draw the ball for the last 4 seasons and played awful golf. Converted to a fade and hitting the ball the best I ever have. Cheers Paul👍
Glad you liked it. Thanks. Fade is so much easier for sure.
There is a reason why a lot of top pga players today prefer the fade. It has worked great for DJ for a reason, and in this video Paul, you explained why. Thanks, great lesson.
Exactly. The best of all time hit a fade. If you don't fade it you will never be the best.
Paul, Great session and I agree! I was a solid fader of the ball then got "lost" in the draw for many years. Finally swallowed my pride and gave up the occasional extra 6-10yds of the draw for the consistency of the fade. Like you said less practice, more Fairways and greens hit = lower scores. I learned the hard way but this lession just might save many folks at lot of aggravation chasing that draw. Never again giving up on that fade.... It's money! Thanks for all the great vids and instruction, take care.
Fell down the rabbit hole. Ouch! Now you know better. Tiger did this too. Didn't turn out too well for him either. Glad he's back.
Thank you for the video! I’ve always tried drawing my driver because I thought it was “cool”. Anyways after seeing your video I’ve switched to a fade and it’s been game changing! I’m hitting fairways and not losing balls off the tee. By far the best golf advise I’ve received. Thank you!
Yeah, me too when I was a kid. Then I kept watching this kid who faded it hit almost every fairway every time we played. This plus listening to Nicklaus say the fade was his bread and butter shot convinced me to fade it. This was a huge breakthrough. Made life so much easier. Glad you see it and will be fading it in the near future too.
I’ve been chasing a draw for 40 years with some success but this one tip has changed my game for the better. Still struggle to do it with short irons but I’m sticking with it. Thanks Paul!
Great to hear! Learn my neutral grip here: th-cam.com/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the video! All the golf instructional videos I see on TH-cam makes me think that there was something wrong with me because I couldn't hit a draw.I for one can't hit a draw on purpose if my life depended on it. It frustrated me so much. But this video now gives me hope that there is nothing wrong with me with hitting a fade.
Glad you see it now. Stick with this shot. You are actually lucky.
“Now I’m not talking about the guy who slices the ball off the planet”
LOL 😂😂😂😂😂
For sure. Big difference between that guy and the fader.
One thing I know, if I’m hitting a nice fade, I’m not hooking the ball. It’s become my go to shot with the driver. Thanks Paul!
Very good. Seems like I have some trolls that seems to think that the draw is just as easy to hit as the face. Yeah right. That's why even Hogan couldn't control it. We know better. Keep up the good work.
This is some of the best advice I’ve ever heard. Officially stopping trying for the draw and playing my natural fade
Glad you liked it and are going to stick with the fade. Worked great for Jack and most of the other best golfers of all time.
I agree with much of what you say except that if you read Jack Nicklaus' book, he got around 10 hours sleep per night - one of his keys to success. I think better golfers understand the swing well enough to hit either a fade or a draw which, if you can choose, is what you need for some shots. Yes of course a fade is the best shot but we also want to have some fun out there even if the risk is higher!
Well trying flying all over the world doing interviews etc etc etc. that's what I was getting it. With his busy life he certainly didn't hit a draw.
I spent the entire summer working on my draw, started playing really well then it was garbage. I am back to my natural fade. Great video.
Very good. We've all been there. Some never give up trying to find that unicorn.
Forgot myself for a bit and started struggling again, the draw enticed me in again! Perfect video to come back to. Merry Christmas
Yeah, draw is tricky. I like simple.
AWESOME philosophy here Paul. I'm one of your more advanced listeners, and I can say that for my 20 years of golf I've been hitting a draw, and not by choice, that's just always how my shot goes. I actually WISH I could fade all the time. I'm actually afraid of trying it on the regular for fear of a block-push MUCK UP. I always noticed it about Nicklaus and was always jealous.
Probably need to start looking at your grip, could be too strong. Check out my video called: STRONG IS WRONG
I have drawed it for years, with a strong grip and slide, you are correct. And it's hard to master. Sometimes the push.
More neutral grip now. The aiming on the course will be challenging now. 🤔
Very good. I have converted another drawer of the ball. Now you will see how much easier it is and how much better you will play. Here is my tip on the neutral grip. Just follow along: th-cam.com/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/w-d-xo.html
@@paulwilsongolf yes I have already start with a much more neutral grip, feels weak at first but the more I get used to it....
The hook and draw is Dangerous to play. 🤔
I swear… I feel like I should pay you after watching these videos. They’ve been so valuable for my golf game.
You’re a wealth of knowledge-
Glad you are doing well. You can certainly check out the products on my website here: paulwilsongolf.com
Much appreciated.
Good one!! Love the way you tied it in for beginners and avg. players toward the end!
Glad you liked it!
Loved this one for other than the obvious reasons. Your reference to a click on the clock being 6° really hit home. Been fiddling with the Mevo+'s face and path numbers for a few months now and have come to recognize that an FTT off by five or six degrees is gonna tick me off a lot more than the three or four degrees that delivers a marginally acceptable result (depending on the path). Have just downloaded a free "inclinometer" on the phone and when I leaned it that 6° I could see that that could become a nifty, likely repeatable, reference angle when aligning for an intentional curve. The feedback from the Mevo has me creeping up on confidently being able to do that before long.
Secondly, your demo of that upper body "tilt" that leads to the in to out "draw" path seems to match up with another "tip" I saw yesterday where the pro placed stuff under the toe of his left foot for apparently promoting that same tilt or "lean". Still struggling with making it intuitive why that alters the plane in such an in to out manner rather than merely causing the club to hit the ground way behind the ball. I don't doubt that it works because folks obviously can get it done that way, and *not* changing something would seem to make it mandatory that the path be "left" if the club head has passed the "low point" with the typical driver ball position.
I don't follow the explanation for why the draw goes more "sideways" and more likely into trouble than the same numbers on a fade. I wonder if it might be more related to the typical lower trajectory of the "draw" type shot and therefore more roll (sideways). I know that I can get some *low* slices finding some places that are just about as disappointing as those of the duck hooks.
Also wonder about human anatomy making it more likely to horrifically change the face angle more counterclockwise (looking down) than the other direction. This Mevo feedback has me currently looking very closely at that pesky right elbow and the shenanigans it can get up to when internal shoulder rotation decides it wants to take over. :-) External shoulder rotation, OTOH, seems to provide sort of an "asymptote" at this point in my journey. Just starting to pick apart the differences between forearm pronation and that same arm's internal rotation. Interesting stuff. . .
The high draw driver is one of the hardest shots to hit consistently because as you hit up on the driver, the club is moving leftward on the arc. Think of a hula hoop and the points beyond the low point of the hoop. To draw it with an upward angle of attack, you have to aim quite a distance right and have less body rotation through the ball to close the face to the path. If you watch the pro long drivers, you’ll see them struggle with a wild two way miss attempting this shot. A better shot pattern is the power fade with an upward angle of attack on the driver. You can release the club fully and rotate hard knowing that it won’t result in a pull hook. If anything, your miss will be a few yards right of target or right of fairway. You’ll see your launch angle be more consistent because the face isn’t closed to the path. And you be producing high-launch, low spinning drives that carry much longer than any lower launching pull hook.
I have moved to a fade off the tee having tried to master the draw. I just aim straight, swing on a neutral plane and I know that produces a club path of 3.5deg L due to the arc for a positive AOA. I then just hold off the face slightly and hey presto I get a power fade with very little lateral bend but reliable. I also find it easier to get the spin loft I need at my swing speed than with a draw so I actually get a more optimum trajectory with a fade so more distance than a draw!
Glad you woke up and came to your senses. It is way easier and way more consistent. If you read the some of the past comments I get the bashers bashing me. Funny how almost every tour pro is fading is now. Only been telling people to do this for 33 years. When Nicklaus says the fade is his bread and butter we may want to listen.
@@paulwilsongolf Jack certainly knew a thing or two about golf! The eureka moment came for me when I bought myself a launch monitor and was able to fully explore and optimise all my swing parameters.
Perfect Paul, but then again you know that! Your mantra of simple, effective and playable for anyone just works
Glad you liked it. Thanks. Simple is the key for sure. Too many people struggling out there and way too much confusion. I'll just keep doing what I do and hopefully it will help everyone play better.
Since I started i would naturally draw, occasionally push,block and the dreaded hook ! I had a super strong closed face and somehow with lots of shaft lean managed to square up but like you said and miss is possibly oob! And then recently my grip has gone more neutral and I’m hitting fades out of nowhere and I love it ! The height and apex and I don’t feel I’ve lost any length and the accuracy, can’t wait for courses to open again now
Thanks for sharing! I have a lot of bashers out there that insist on playing a draw. Little do they know I used to draw it for years. Then I woke up and allowed it to fall slightly right. So much easier and I didn't have to practice a lot. Simple is the key.
You are absolutely right. Started hitting a slight fade all day today and I think I was in the middle of every fairway with my driver. Wish I'd learned this lesson many years ago countless buckets of balls at the range. Wow.
Exactly. So much easier.
Where the problem comes in with hitting a fade (for me) is hip rotation. If you sweep to the side (as shown early in the video) and your club head opens up more while trying to hit a fade... it's going to be a giant slice. After years of always hitting a fade (that would turn into a slice or pull if not careful), I taught myself how to hit a draw, and how I did that was 4 ways (strengthen grip, more hip rotation, slightly more aggressive forearm/hand rotation, and a slower backswing with focus on letting wrists/grip relax to allow some shallowing so I could come in to out with club path). Now, my natural swing is a fade, but now that I'm forcing myself to play a draw all the time, it'll be easier to get back to playing the fade AND now I have the draw in my arsenal of shots with an understanding of how to do both. Only problem now is execution haha! I definitely agree with the draw advice though, because it took a while to get the draw down (2-3 months this year) AND I still don't entirely have it down all the way... I still occasionally hit a big hook or a pull fade. My arguement is that I think most hooks or pull draws are almost ALWAYS in play and a slice or push fade is almost always out of play... and this is because most courses play counterclockwise along a course layout with OB always to the right and to the left is another hole, so I disagree with hook being more out of play than a push fade. Learning a push draw has helped a bit to keep from hooking or pull drawing, but then if execution isn't on with the push draw, it just ends up being a push haha. BUT this is why golf is addicting lol
Just aim the face at the target. Body left of target and swing left. It really is that simple. Sounds like your push fade is way too much. Seems like you are sliding to get it pushing that much. Just need to turn more as opposed to shifting too much as you start down. Hit the top and think turn. This will get you more rotational. If you are trying to draw it then of course you would need the slide slide. Couple this with the strong grip and you have the draw but this is so hard to repeat consistently. It take constant practice. To work on the fade why not take it in 2 stages. Align square. Open the face a few degrees and hit shots down the line with a slight falling right. Then once you get a little confidence shuffle your whole body a little left. If you do it this way and see huge push fade that would tell you that you need to turn more to get rid of the push. Up to you.
fascinating. i noticed the other day that trying fades seemed to be, for me at least, a much much higher percentage shot than hitting straight or trying (and failing) to draw. it feels so natural
Very good. Glad you like this shot. As you see most all tour player are switching to it. Only been saying this for now 33 years. Way easier. Way more room for error. Stick with it.
This guy is good. And he is correct. I hit balls everyday and was infatuated with drawing my driver. My timing had to be impeccable and I often had a two way miss going. I started hitting the power fade and easy to release the club and the misses are playable. It freed up my swing and my game. Great tip.
Exactly. If you are not playing and practice every day I would not be trying to hit a draw. See the Open Championship this week? Rahm, Spieth, Morikawa, Louis, All fading it. So much easier. Glad you are doing it.
I absolutely agree!! The draw drive is something to do only when I have to.
For sure. It is tricky. Needs lots of practice.
I know I am late on this but, honestly, tried this yesterday, first ball hit was a small fade exactly where I aimed it (clubface that is). A draw swing path just doesn't seem to suit my body, this is far easier. Awesome tip thanks.
Glad you liked it. I prefer easy and not having to practice every day. Seems you do too. Stick with it and trust it. Game is so much easier this way.
U perfectly describe my draw misses & timing problems..if I can learn this fade it’s going to solve a lot of my problems. Great video!
You can do it! This will literally be the best change you ever made. I would start with the grip here: th-cam.com/video/jQZLp8bF-Ww/w-d-xo.html
thanks for this video. I was watching DJ and Colin talk on the taylor made yt channel about not being able to hit a draw ever. Which gave me so much confidence in my fade. The last two rounds Ive played I shot an 81 and 83 legit on super difficult courses. I haven't been able to break 90 consistent since i started playing. Now its easy. Be confident in your swing and have a good tempo. Golf isnt that hard at all.
Well not sure about that. I remember after DJ lost the US open I think in 2017 they said he spent 5 weeks learning how to fade it. Then he won the next year. Glad you are on board with it. This is so much easier than drawing it. When Nicklaus says the fade was his bread and butter shot we may want to listen.
@@paulwilsongolf i should of rephrased- you are right he use to hit draws, he said in a recent video he would never dare to try and hit a draw unless you have no other option. th-cam.com/video/jjKnEmo9WFw/w-d-xo.html
@@paulwilsongolf I dont understand when people say a draw looks better than a fade. A draw looks like a controlled hook to me and i hate that. Would rather have a controlled slice.
No doubt. I hate the look of that shot. Pros are finally starting to realize it. Only been saying they need to be fading it for 33 years.
I think my slightly "draw bias" driver head is making it harder for me to hit my fade. Opening my stance and squaring my clubface often results in a straight shot, which is fantastic - however that straight shot isn't as solid feeling as I would like it to be. Long story short: Awesome information Paul! Thank you!
Glad you liked it. Thanks. You need to pick a shot and stick with it. If you want to fade it yes, set your driver to standard not with draw bias.
Many thanks. My driver isn't adjustable, but I'm sure that I have a head with a square club face somewhere in my closet. I'll glue it on to the end of a stick and get busy. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
That's exactly how I feel with how I shape the ball. Fading doesn't take as much effort and thinking as it does with trying to draw the ball. As you mentioned, over fading usually leaves me in bounds, but if I push the ball in an attempt to play a draw, the results are usually less favorable.
Absolutely. Glad you see it. That draw takes a lot of work.
This makes perfect sense now. Thank you.👍⛳
Glad to hear it! This is important if you are stuck trying to figure out what shot to hit. When I started fading it the game was way easier. Just depends what you want.
This is all very interesting, however, I'm of a mindset that I want to be able to hit whatever shot shape will put me into the best position in the fairway. So, I spend time trying to hit draws and fades at will. What your suggesting is akin to a baseball player who only knows how to pull the ball. The best hitters use the entire field. Same with the best golfers.
This depends on how much you are will to practice. Takes a lot of time, effort and energy to be able to dial in these shots all the time. I like simple. I try to hit it straight or falling right unless I absolutely have to hit a draw. The best golfer of all time (Nicklaus) did what I do. Easy way to figure it out. Do what you do and chart your success rate. If you can and want to do it then do it. If you find it's getting you in trouble then do it my way. That draw is tricky. It will cost you shots.
Love to see all the stories of success and gratefulness here, hell yeah all around good people
Yeah, great when people are getting it. That's what it's all about. So many people need help out there. I will keep doing what I do.
When I was hitting a fade I was a 15 handicap. When I learned to hit a draw I dropped as low as a 3 (I'm currently back up to a 5 at age 65). And I do NOT hit hundreds of balls a day. I play twice per week and practice twice per week and I never hit more than 75 balls per session. I've always struggled to hit my fade consistently. Too often my fade would turn into a distance-robbing slice that would land 20 yards short and finish 30-40 yards right of my target, often in the trees, resulting in a lost ball. I can control my draw much easier than I can control my fade. Sure, once in awhile, I'll hit a push off the tee but since I only aim down the right side of the fairway I rarely end up worse than the right rough. And if I over-cook my draw and hook it a bit, it ends up in the left rough. Again, not the end of the world. If I try to hit a fade and slice it, then, not only am I in the right rough, I'm also 20 yards further away from the green for my next shot.
Yes, but when you learned it you did a lot of practice. There is no way you go to a 3 with minimal practice. Think of the average person (who are 90% of who I teach). Getting them to even do some daily practice swings at home is a miracle. Typically they are practicing 20 mins before they play once a week. Do you actually think they are going to dial in a perfect draw? No going to happen without work. You developed an inside out path. Seems maybe a little too much as you have a hard time fading it. So for you I wouldn't hit a fade. You're a better player and mastered it so why would someone like you change? If you were hitting it everywhere I would suggest making the change. This was me when I was 17. Hitting a draw I could never take a day off. If so, it would take me a week to get it back. Same with my assistant when he hit a draw.
When I went to the fade it was night and day. So keep doing your draw. You will have to hit a Freddie push fade if you want to fade it. Worked for him.
@@paulwilsongolf True, early on, while I was taking lessons, I needed a fair amount of practice. Probably 4 days per week at the driving range, minimum. But back then I was still working full-time and was only playing once per week, on the weekend. The thing that's helped me the most is being able to play TWICE per week. I think playing is more beneficial to practicing. Once I went from working full-time to working part-time I was able to play twice per week and my game really improved more dramatically after that. But, aside from really being able to feel the new inside-out swing path, the other thing that really helped me switch from hitting a fade/slice to hitting a draw was a very minor change to my grip. I went from an interlock to an overlap and this was crucial for me. I noticed that when I used the interlock grip I had a tendency to grip the club much too tightly and this caused the face to stay open at impact. Once I switched to the overlap, it "softened" my grip (helped keep my hands/wrists loose) and really helped me release the clubhead through the hitting area. Anyway, I really like your videos, I've been following you for many years. Keep spreading the word, Paul.
See where the problem is? Mist average golfers who practice maybe once a week are trying to hit a shot that takes a lot to learn which is what the tip was trying to say. So instead of them scratching their head wondering why they just can't magically draw it I explained the reason and gave them the understanding that a fade is easier so maybe they want to consider that shot instead of driving themselves crazy trying to figure out a draw. Don't get me wrong when people come for lessons I get the drawing/hooking it first then I straighten it out. At that point they have the knowledge to understand how to hit the draw and it's up to them to make the choice on what shot they want to hit into the future.
The interlock grip is a serious problem for a lock of people which is why I don't promote it. Most all people want to wedge their pinky of the bottom hand in with the finger of the top hand. In doing so this leave the bottom thumb on top of the shaft which hampers the wrist hinge at the top. I did a pretty popular tip on this here:
th-cam.com/video/lWEhXEGSgRE/w-d-xo.html
I will be doing a tip on why I don't like the interlock in the near future.
Cheers Paul I'll be giving this a go tomorrow.
You explained my golf with a slight slide and attacking from inside (ob right or left)
Exactly. I think this tip got to a few others in the same boat. Fairways and greens.
Spent countless hours and rounds focused on drawing the ball. Rarely ever got the timing down and struggled. Scratched it and went to the fade and both my driving accuracy and GIR spiked to the point where even on bad days my bad shots are still playable. It’s a no brainer and wish I figured it out long ago.
Exactly!!
Great video, and straight to the point. Exactly what I was looking for, thank you good sir! Subscribed!
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
Tiger and Jack had their push fades as their fairway finder go to shot.
Well, they weren't really push fades as they aimed left and started it left allowing it to fade back to the target but we get your point. Fade is the way to go for more fairways.
Brilliant Wilson thanks, from Dominican republic, God bless you!!!
Thanks for watching !!
I've been watching the videos. I'll be going to the range soon to try the slow body rotation. However, i've doing exactly as you've said with my arms. I have hit some good shots but my irons are always topping. I've been able to recently hit my driver but i'm probably still doing it wrong. I am a 24 handicap right now always in low 100s because of topping. I do get a nice roll though from topping. Any videos coming up for how to lower scores or handicaps? That would be much appreciated. Thank you.
At a 24 hdcp you are most certainly hitting with arms. You lower the scores and hdcp by building a great swing. A great swing hits great shots. Watch the tips below and do daily practice swings. You should be breaking 100 in no time if not immediately.
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Have always said, that I would happily give away 20meters/22 yards in order to hit more fairways... The snaphook has always been my worst enemy... This lesson helped hit more fairways and it's amazing. :) Thank you Paul. :-)
Snap hook is easy to fix. Literally 5 mins. Glad you found this one. Here is another one that will help you fix it:
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Thanks a lot Paul,your words so humor and concise. perfect
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
Paul I’m late to the party here as usual but been following you for a bit and finally getting better at hitting it with my body instead of my arms. I usually draw the ball and its great when it works but the 60 percent of the time I miss, I’m OB. Tried this setup for a fade and gonna take this to the golf course. Its scary feeling but I need a shot shape and this does indeed feel easier then a draw. I’m nervous and will post back my results lol 🤞
Glad you found me. The draw/hook can get you in serious trouble. You should just watch this tip so you can fix you own swing:
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This video should be shown to everyone! Without the fade- I am no longer a good golfer! I rely on the fade exactly- bread and butter.
Glad you're on board. Funny how almost every pro hits it now. Must be a reason.
I think this is very interesting and timely. I play to a 6 and in guilty of trying to hit a draw. What you saw though makes perfect sense to me. It might also get me to use my body more too. I was using my hands more and holding back my body so I could really come from the inside for that draw shot. Interesting.
Give it a try!!
Funny, I have ALWAYS hit a draw even when I first started. Now my draw is more subtle but its my natural shot...don't need to think about it at all. Now a fade...never really been able to hit a fade...probably due to a strong grip. I have been trying to make my grip more neutral..feels REALLY weird! Thanks Paul for all your tips...they are helping my swing in ways I never thought possible.
Strong grip trying to fade it is tough. Once you master the neutral grip it will be a no brainer. Just keep doing it. It will take you a month to get used to it where you are not thinking about it.
One of my observations is as follows: If I hit a perfectly good fade, my playing partners say "You sliced it, but it turned out ok." But if I hit an equally good draw - a mirror image of the good fade, they all say "Wow, what a pretty little draw." Most golfers seem to think that those who are able to hit a draw are more skilled players than those who play a fade - which I think is partly true. (Most don't know that Nicklaus played a fade and so did/do many great players.)
One other reason I prefer a fade is that most courses set up better for a fade. Most golfers fade/slice the ball, so it is no fun for them always be in the woods on the right side. As a result, most golf course architects find ways to accommodate slicers otherwise not many people would want to play their courses.
thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks for this Paul, I’m a lefty playing off 4 abs this makes perfect sense to me and I’ve done exactly what you have demonstrated here on many occasions 👍
I usually get lefties to have a slight draw. Seems easy for them to do. This is simply because most holes are left to right. You can certainly fade it too if you want.
So I used to draw about a year ago, very nasty mini hook/draw as a lefty. My miss would be a duck hook. This year ive developed a fade naturally. Without trying. I probably hit around 60-70% of fairways as I've grooved in such a swing its so repeatable and comfortable. Very good shot.
Very good. I do prefer lefties draw it though. The problem with the duck hook was you grip. I you are hooking it without trying to hook it you have a grip problem. Guess you didn't see these:
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Need to try this now, have lost my swing over last couple of years trying to draw the ball. Thanks
Definitely. At some point you have to realize the draw is not working. You can do it. It will be the best decision.
Agreed. I use to hit draws and then a snap hook would appear and a world of pain on the left hand side of the course would be waiting.
Yeah, I know the draw looks cool for some but it just takes so much work. I have other stuff to do versus hitting 300-500 balls a day.
For someone like me, who has been playing for a long time and now plays once a week, this is a great tip, thank you!
Very good. On the same page. Great.
Can you do a video on proper alignment - feet, hips, shoulders, arms?
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You are so right! I get more distance and roll with my natural fade because I hit the fairway Vs the draw in the rough!
Exactly!! You nailed it. I will do another tip on that in the future.
I played with former world number one LPGA Yani Tseng and she told me the same thing. I practice draw trying to fix my outside in swing. Yani told me just practice fade and make it consistent.
Exactly, and people argue with me to hit a draw. People don't listen to what I am saying. If people want to hit a draw fine. Just be aware that this is a harder shot to hit which requires daily practice. Most people don't have time. The fade is easier. For you I would be careful not to swing outside in too much and of course you don't want it spinning right too much. So looser wrists. Right = tight. So if you are spinning it too much right you are too tight. As for coming over the top what these:
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@@paulwilsongolf I spent 20 years to fix my outside in swing but failed. I thought the fix for outside in swing is to practice inside out swing. I was so shocked yesterday that Yani told me not do it.
@@paulwilsongolf But to fade iron, it will lose distance for amateurs and it's hard for most people to accept it.
Yeah, but if you keep hitting greens and fairways you gain confidence which will increase your clubhead speed.
The timing of this video. I’ve gone back to my natural fade and stopped trying to hit a draw - with the exception of a 3W on dogleg left holes - and shot 74. I also hit over 70% of greens as I was in the fairway and hit soft fades with irons.
Very good. A huge improvement and no frustration of trying to hit a perfect little draw when you only practice once a week. If people want to hit the draw they can go right ahead. Can't say I didn't warn them on how difficult it is and how much work it takes.
Great video Paul!!!! Its a great help. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
You’re an eye-opener.
I enjoy your delivery.
I like the way you make me feel good about my fade and stay confident with it.
I wish Rory is listening!
Cus to me, you make a lot of sense.
Thank you!
Hare Krishna 🙏
Thanks so much. I appreciate the support. For sure stick with the fade. So much easier. I have been saying that about Rory for years. He should be #1 no problem. The best of all time faded it.
Your right Paul I have been trying to hit a draw my whole life some days good most days not so good. On the fairway sounds good to me.
Bye Bye draw. Hello Mr. Fade
Thank you 🙏.
Very good. Just look at the best players of all time. The didn't draw it. Tells you something. I have a sneaky feeling this Sheffler is going to be untouchable. He has the distance. Hits a fade. Rarely in trouble. See his misses at the Masters compared to Cam Smith? He hit a few pulls but wasn't deep in the trees. Smith was deep in the trees. Big difference. Straight or falling right is the shot for righties. Lefties I like them to hit a draw and they usually have no problem doing it.
Just learned the fade and I'm in all in on the fade. Never hit my long irons better.
Exactly. That draw is tough.
Good stuff Paul...much appreciated from down under
Thank you. One day I will make it down there. I have built up quite a following there over the years.
I was the exact opposite of what you were talking about and I hit it very straight an long. I could take a long iron an fad it very easy. I never sprayed the ball. I had very strong hands an that helped me more than anything
Strong hands definitely help to hold it off also you were working on it probably daily. If most can practice once a week it's a miracle. This is why I keep telling people to do practice swings at home.
Paul, I know this is an old video, but maybe you’ll see this. I have fought the hook all my life, including the 15 years I’ve played your swing. At age 77 I’ve decided to make the fade my stock shot, but I’m having trouble. When you hit a fade, do you hold off the club face a bit through impact, or do you fully release it with loose wrists? Is there any chance you could devote a video to the fade? I would love to see your version of the power fade with driver, as well as the proper setup and swing for the soft fade with any club. Thanks…
You are doing a normal swing with the face open. There is no holding it off. So imagine you are standing square to a shot. Open the face about 2 degrees. Make sure your grip is neutral. Hit a shot. Where did it go? I would go slightly right with fade spin. Once you get that consistently happening ... aim left. I am the face where I want the ball to land. I am my body left. I swing left. That is all there is to it. If you have hit a draw I would imagine your grip being too strong so that is where you need to start. It should be neutral. Once you get that you are good to go. Either do it my way or aim left then open the face. Up to you.
I've fallen in love with the fade that showed up when I started using your body swing stuff. I accidentally hit a draw off 1 yesterday, but guess what - it was still only 10 yards from fairway. I'll give up 10-15 yards for accuracy with no complaint. Tho hammering a 300 yard would still be nice, because I've never done it.
Very good. This will certainly get you playing and scoring better. Once you have confidence you make changes if you want to in the future.
Glad to see someone singing the praises of the fade instead of a draw. So is a 113° dry heat really not that bad ?
Exactly. Way easier.
113 it's hot but doable.
This dude cured my slice by utilizing his hip turn exercises
Great to hear. Curing slices is one of my specialties. Super simple to get people hitting it dead straight.
I find drawing the ball much easier and natural. with that said, I do recognize that when I’m off timing wise, it is hard to keep it in the fairway. I’ve tried fading with limited success, but Im going to put more of an emphasis on working fades to try to stabilize my scores which seem to fluctuate
Well some drawers have a server inside out path. If so, it's harder to fade it. So if your path a not that bad then give it a try. I just don't like when you say that when you are "off" it's hard to keep it in the fairway. This is the problem with a draw. If you are not practicing regularly the odds of you being off increase. Keep in mind that the fade I am talking about in this tip is you doing your normal swing with the face slightly open. Maybe line up square, open the face a few degrees, do your normal swing and hit some shots. As you do, watch the ball and see where it goes. This will tell you how much left you need to aim. If you feel it is a lot then from the top just as you start down think "TURN". This will stop the path from swinging too much from the inside. Then you will see the fade I am talking about.
Thank you so much, Paul. You are the best.
Thanks you so much.
Great lesson! Thank you!
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
In the middle of swing change trying to do that working with Chip Curico who use to work under Jack Nicholas it’s hard changing my set up it’s not easy to change
Aiming left is not that hard. Aim left with the face where you want the ball to end up. Swing left. Done. Not sure why you think this is hard. This is all of 5 minutes.
Currently grinding hitting fades. Have always had a stronger grip. Hit my clubs long. But that random push. Esp with lower lofted clubs just kills a round. Guys that hit fades shoot lower scores faster then guys that hit draws
Glad you see it. There are those who still insist on hitting a draw. If you are a better player and have distance then I would be fading it. If you are average or senior player that needs distance I would draw it.
I agree 100%. I know with my game I don't lose much distance either when playing my stock fade.
Exactly. I remember this kid playing this perfect fade back in junior golf. We used to make fun of him. Now I admire him.
Great tips. You are true teacher.
I appreciate that!
couldnt agree more, though I would advise everyone to learn to hit a draw then go back to the fade, never bad to have more tools
For sure. Need to know how to do it though. Not easy for 90% of golfers. I do have tips on it though.
Fantastic video Paul.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.
I love golf no matter how i slice it and i play in the 70s if it gets warmer thats fine...
Great. Keep playing it.
Paul can you go over the stance and setup for a fade? E.i. How far to the left are you aiming to create the fade?
Aim the face down the middle. Aim your body to the left rough (driver). Irons would be less.
Great video. I'm a 18 handicap and I'm going to stop always trying to hitting a draw. Exactly as you said, I'm just not able to practice that much.
Exactly, I will save you years of frustration.
Bloody hell that was good thank you
Glad you liked it. Thanks.
Very informative. I am a beginner and my goal right now is to drive the ball as straight as possible. Is this the right approach?
For beginners there are 2 ways to go about it. You can swing as hard as you can (with the body) and get the concept of powering the swing with the legs and hips the dial it in later or perfect movement and positions hitting it straight then increase. If you choose door number 2 you will lose consistency when you go to increase so you will have to get that back so it's an extra step. The choice is yours. Word of advice choose 1 teacher and stick with it. If it's me great. If it's someone else that's great too. Just find one. We all see the swing differently and say it differently. Got to find one you like. If you are going to follow me then start here:
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Power the swing with the legs and hip not the hands and arms. I have tons of lower body tips now posted. Try this one. It's an easy way to get you hips moving: th-cam.com/video/j1mS5Ku8Q10/w-d-xo.html
why would you ever hit a draw from a square stance and then slide, yet open it for a fade? I find it much easier just to adjust my stance to work the ball.
This is a tip about how you need multiple swing flaws to hit the draw vs a fade. As most golfers want to hit the draw.
I play a draw, it's really not that hard for me. Old baseball player so I naturally hooked it instead of sliced. Sure I hit hooks and pushes but they're not half as bad as you make it out to be, if I push it I push it out to that right ball, if I hook it's to the left ball. I do realize it's harder for some and I've had plenty and plenty of those ob shots. It's golf not golf swing and it's not enough of a problem for me yet
If you hit a natural draw and want to keep hitting it then go ahead. The choice is yours. 1 degree open to the path equals 14 yards offline at 250 yards so yes, they are as bad as I am saying. A tick on a clock is 6 degrees. 1 tick on a clock open or closed is 84 yards offline at 250. Even less room for error the farther you hit it. So keep that in mind when you snap one or blow it right. It doesn't take much. I used to play a draw. Then I switched to a fade. See all the top players now hitting fades? Only been saying this for 33 years now.
Why didn't I catch this video 3 years ago?
Not sure. Now you have seen it keep at it. Way easier this way.
Thanks Paul, great tip....
Glad it was helpful!
Aim down the middle of the fairway. Quality tip.
With the appropriate body set up. Do this and the game is easy.
I needed to hear this… thank you!
Everyone needs to hear it so they can make up their mind.
What is your release pattern? Hold off or a natural release? Jack would open face at address and naturally release (Power Fade).
I am releasing the club not holding it off.