If you're struggling with your driver and you want more distance and consistency, check out Total Driving here - meandmygolf.com/start-total-driving-free/?TH-cam&TDN_D&SM
@@meandmygolf. thanks a lot. Been watching a lot of your videos as very good especially the ones in San Diego, are you planning to do any videos in this country. I would love to come along is there any way of doing this?
These guys are brilliant at diagnosing the key problems and fixing them in simplistic rapidly achievable ways. I bet their students improve rapidly post lesson.
I found in my game if my driver is on, breaking 80 becomes so much more attainable. Putting is one thing but, not having a shot into the green is the key issue. The dreaded hook is my driver miss, a high block on occasion. This could get me closer to better consistency for sure!
Agreed, I played last week and im a beginner for the most part, my score is improving consistently but my driver is awful, with my driver the round before last i ob'd 7 times in the front nine. A few more in the back. Scored 125. So yesterday I decided no driver, three iron from the tee, ob'd twice the whole game, much better. BUT, I scored 128. A good driver is required.
Working on my drive currently and struggling to close the face. Swing plane is fine but re-emphasising the toe winning the race is something I’ll work on
For me, I was struggling off the tee with a slice. Analysis showed, I was over the top and very much ‘out to in’ on my swing path. It also showed my first movement from the top of my backswing was rounded. I worked on my first movement being Down towards the floor, allowing my hands access to my hips and ‘getting in the slot’. That would be my only advice for anyone struggling with a slice, worked wonders for me 👊
After a terrible range session yesterday, I went back today after watching this video. Unless I’ve fluked it, this video has done wonders for my drive. It seems like my main problem was all in the trail elbow positioning during the backswing 🤦♂️
Having the full swing kit really helps a lot to tell what you are doing with your club face or club path! Even if you are swinging from the inside, you could still be outside in at impact.
I have watched these two for years, and didn't really give them a grain of sand, but this lesson was worth digging my heels in the sand to watch , and watching some of tips like the toes first over the finish line, now explain where the snap, whip/ power in a swing..
If you’re slicing. Keep your lead shoulder parallel with the target line. It’s so easy to open that thing up wide open like you’re hitting a chip shot.
This is exactly my driver swing at the moment. I’m hitting it miles but with a slice. My coach is trying to get me to get my right arm coming down with my elbow towards the ball. Are there any vlogs looking at right elbow in downside from meandmygolf?
Moving the ball that far forward means the swing is past it's horizontal apex and is now moving in an out to in path which is going to promote a fade. There's a reason people say to have the ball inside the lead heel
I'm a casual golfer who might play 8-10 times a summer. I've been putting in much more range time this summer though. I historically shoot 100-105, however, last weekend I shot a 91, which is easily the best round of my life. I am very "atypical" in my driver setup. I tee up with the ball one ball-width forward of exactly half-way between my feet - not up towards my front foot. I am about 75% consistent hitting it VERY straight with about a 240-250 carry. I swing a Taylor made Aero Burner. I've tried having the ball forward in my stance as recommended by 99.9% of people out there. I have barely any control, and I've hit lots of balls at the range lately trying to work on it. Should I keep looking for untapped distance potential by practicing with the ball forward in my stance, or should I keep doing what works for me?
Great work on the 91! If it is working consistently, keep doing it. There are so many ways to do it and we are all different. Glad you found something that works!
I had to bring the ball almost to the middle of my stance (left cheek/left eye). As well as a very neutral to almost weak right hand grip. My problem is snap pull hooks.
I used to be a fantastic driver. Hit anywhere from 250-330 yard drives down the fairway or just into the rough but over the last year and a half I have completely lost my tee box. Spraying my driver all over the place. On 18 holes I maybe have 1 or 2 decent drives and more often than not lose my ball off the box. It’s ruining my game. I usually miss with a big heavy slice or a low snap hook. No idea what to do I’m lost. Any advice?
Drones on and on then finally, after talking it up for ages, tells you to go to another link. Waste of time and the game isnt frustrating enough without having to deal with this.
He is addressing the ball out of the heal of the club, surely that makes him swipe the ball, hence a right miss and over then top to get the club to the ball
Hmm. I didn't see him really improve. He was still hitting massive slices at the end. Moving the ball further forward "to give more time to close the face" is a common misconception. The further forward the ball, the more likely you are to strike it out-to-in, exacerbating the slice. He was over cocking the club at the top of the backswing, which definitely makes it harder to close the face in time. So it was good to fix that. But I would have moved the ball back to the inside of the lead heel, once you fixed the over cocking, and then explained how to swing in to out, under the top, better.
We used the same principle down wind at our course in Scotland that gave you extra mileage, into the wind we hit a low draw to give the ball topspin which gave good roll and was great for controlling your shot. chipping with an eight or nine iron was the same all for control of the ball. a chip high shot with a 54 downwind just took off you could not control the spin. It is a different game on a windy coastal course that you need to understand. A famous player once said four 72 would win or be very close Gary player proceeded to do that and win the open.
Putting the ball further forward if you're struggling with a slice seems like a recipe for disaster as you're going to catch the ball as the path moves left, making it worse.
Only if thew shoulders follow. Yes moving the ball further forward shifts the path slightly you also hit the ball later in the arc which mean the face is more left and sometimes can change face to path relationship. The proof was in the pudding with Max here.
@@Vnam72Your logic is only sound if it works in practice, what moving the ball up REALLY does is it gives the face more time to close. Effectively giving you a better chance at hitting it straight.
@brendanomalley7603 I used to move the ball further left, if your face isn't closing (as his wasn't here) then it's just a bigger slice. You assume the face will close but this has to be learnt. The best drill in this video was the toe winning the race, i.e. closing the face.
His hands start from the top due to being too narrow and arm run off. That’s the symptom not the cause. We always go to the root cause. This is where amateur golfers go wrong. They see the symptoms but don’t see the cause.
@@meandmygolf. Nope..sorry. Hogan 101. Starts with the hands is almost always the cause not a symptom. We can agree to disagree on this. Yep, I have been doing this a while.
Nonsense, selling a dream, the Pro's don't hit every fairway, if a pro hits 10 out of 14 fairways, he has had a great day, the pro average is 8 out of 14 fairways hit
We haven’t said that you should hit every fairway Jim. Golf is a game of misses. The best players just don’t miss as bad. That’s what this game is about. Take the good and the bad. Keep working on getting better and it’s great to dream.👍🏻
@meandmygolf. was only joking. You said he played baseball, I'm self-taught, and found my driver swing easier when I bought a baseball bat and and dropped my swing plane just around or a tad below my shoulder plane. I would have explained it that way to him. Last 5 rounds I've played to single figures. Just find it easier to explain the golf swing in terms people already understand. All said, love watching you guys 😊
The guy has a baseball swing. Dropping his right shoulder opens the club face. Get his shoulders and weight level....that will do more than any other of this suggested goofiness
If you're struggling with your driver and you want more distance and consistency, check out Total Driving here - meandmygolf.com/start-total-driving-free/?TH-cam&TDN_D&SM
@@meandmygolf. thanks a lot. Been watching a lot of your videos as very good especially the ones in San Diego, are you planning to do any videos in this country. I would love to come along is there any way of doing this?
@@darrencoupe5950 What country are you in Darren?
@@meandmygolf.Hi Guys I live in Dorset and a member of Barton on Sea golf club. Would happily travel. Darren
"Absolutely......(on a big fairway)' Solid Gold from Piers!!!!
😂 hope you enjoyed the vid
Live lessons with amateurs are the best and one's we mere mortals can relate to, especially with driver.
Great to hear you enjoy these Rich. Our favourite content!!
So great to watch him progress , as you corrected his swing faults , very good instructor !
Thanks Patrick! Glad you enjoyed it
It's wild how effective 1-on-1 coaching actually is. It's definitely underrated. Well done.
These guys are brilliant at diagnosing the key problems and fixing them in simplistic rapidly achievable ways. I bet their students improve rapidly post lesson.
Thanks!! That’s exactly what we aim to do. Simplicity is key 👍🏻
Very awesome to watch. Will need to go try some of these things and hopefully fix my slice!
Great, Hope this helps.
Smartest guys in golf! Thanks
I found in my game if my driver is on, breaking 80 becomes so much more attainable. Putting is one thing but, not having a shot into the green is the key issue. The dreaded hook is my driver miss, a high block on occasion. This could get me closer to better consistency for sure!
Yes it's great being in position off the tee. Hope this was useful
Agreed, I played last week and im a beginner for the most part, my score is improving consistently but my driver is awful, with my driver the round before last i ob'd 7 times in the front nine. A few more in the back. Scored 125.
So yesterday I decided no driver, three iron from the tee, ob'd twice the whole game, much better. BUT, I scored 128.
A good driver is required.
Working on my drive currently and struggling to close the face. Swing plane is fine but re-emphasising the toe winning the race is something I’ll work on
Great. Hope it helps
For me, I was struggling off the tee with a slice. Analysis showed, I was over the top and very much ‘out to in’ on my swing path. It also showed my first movement from the top of my backswing was rounded. I worked on my first movement being Down towards the floor, allowing my hands access to my hips and ‘getting in the slot’. That would be my only advice for anyone struggling with a slice, worked wonders for me 👊
Thanks for sharing John 👍🏻
After a terrible range session yesterday, I went back today after watching this video. Unless I’ve fluked it, this video has done wonders for my drive. It seems like my main problem was all in the trail elbow positioning during the backswing 🤦♂️
Great to hear Oliver
It is so natural seeing you both wearing different wardrobe…
Hope you enjoyed the video
Having the full swing kit really helps a lot to tell what you are doing with your club face or club path! Even if you are swinging from the inside, you could still be outside in at impact.
Yes it's great that you can just show one number on the KIT too. Keeps it simple and instant feedback on each shot.
I have watched these two for years, and didn't really give them a grain of sand, but this lesson was worth digging my heels in the sand to watch , and watching some of tips like the toes first over the finish line, now explain where the snap, whip/ power in a swing..
Thanks John. Glad this was useful to you.
Well done! Now I'm off to grind rythm and launch angles for 5 hours, you should look forward to it😂
Have fun!
I believe and receive this blessing in every area of my life. Amen 🙏
That was brilliant. Very helpful
Thanks for this. Just trying to help - use the word farther not further. They mean much different things.
70 yards off target is all? Lightweight
If you’re slicing. Keep your lead shoulder parallel with the target line. It’s so easy to open that thing up wide open like you’re hitting a chip shot.
His footing kept changing from the ball. Would that affect the hook and slice? I am still learning golf and your videos have been extremely helpful!
Great lesson! Give that man a hat!😮👍
On it!👍🏻
Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it
The reason I can't hit them straight is because I suck.
For now. Keep going
His swing looks pretty good!
This is exactly my driver swing at the moment. I’m hitting it miles but with a slice. My coach is trying to get me to get my right arm coming down with my elbow towards the ball. Are there any vlogs looking at right elbow in downside from meandmygolf?
You can really only do this if your face is more square to closed. If you miss it right then it’s harder to do that
Moving the ball that far forward means the swing is past it's horizontal apex and is now moving in an out to in path which is going to promote a fade. There's a reason people say to have the ball inside the lead heel
Cracking video, you two seemed to have improved since you went to America. Thanks for seminar last night Piers, made a lot of sense.
Glad you enjoyed it Mick
I want to check my golf swing 🎉
Why does it seem like 75%+ of TH-cam golf instructors are from UK?
They’re closer to the source
what shot tracker are you using?
All good advice. But did he really shoot it any straighter. They still sliced hella right
Would this be a good for for a push? Im struggling with missing right. Path in 3-4 in to out. And face to path is usually 0-1 open.
It could be yes. If you’re narrow then your face will be left open
LMAO "right side of the fairway..." Piers looks right at the camera... "on a big fairway..." ded
Great video and tips however It seemed like every shot was really inconsistent still?
I'm a casual golfer who might play 8-10 times a summer. I've been putting in much more range time this summer though. I historically shoot 100-105, however, last weekend I shot a 91, which is easily the best round of my life. I am very "atypical" in my driver setup. I tee up with the ball one ball-width forward of exactly half-way between my feet - not up towards my front foot. I am about 75% consistent hitting it VERY straight with about a 240-250 carry. I swing a Taylor made Aero Burner.
I've tried having the ball forward in my stance as recommended by 99.9% of people out there. I have barely any control, and I've hit lots of balls at the range lately trying to work on it. Should I keep looking for untapped distance potential by practicing with the ball forward in my stance, or should I keep doing what works for me?
Great work on the 91! If it is working consistently, keep doing it. There are so many ways to do it and we are all different. Glad you found something that works!
4:50 That horn sounded funny
DOes this work the same with a hook? I hook my driver an insane amount and im really struggling with it, changed drivers and everything.
Where do you guys give your lessons?
We are at The Grand Golf Club in San Diego
@@meandmygolf. well, how convenient that I live in Oceanside! Site link to book lessons?
The Ron Popiel slice o matic golf tutorial
I had to bring the ball almost to the middle of my stance (left cheek/left eye). As well as a very neutral to almost weak right hand grip. My problem is snap pull hooks.
Club face is getting a little closed somewhere
@@meandmygolf. I've been thinking about trying a mid-size grip. It's supposed to help slow face rotation.
Andres, I believe and receive God’s blessings in every area of my life. Amen 🙏
I used to be a fantastic driver. Hit anywhere from 250-330 yard drives down the fairway or just into the rough but over the last year and a half I have completely lost my tee box. Spraying my driver all over the place. On 18 holes I maybe have 1 or 2 decent drives and more often than not lose my ball off the box. It’s ruining my game. I usually miss with a big heavy slice or a low snap hook. No idea what to do I’m lost. Any advice?
Drones on and on then finally, after talking it up for ages, tells you to go to another link. Waste of time and the game isnt frustrating enough without having to deal with this.
He is addressing the ball out of the heal of the club, surely that makes him swipe the ball, hence a right miss and over then top to get the club to the ball
This would change his path. The face at impact due to the narrow back swing was the Key to Max.
Hmm. I didn't see him really improve. He was still hitting massive slices at the end. Moving the ball further forward "to give more time to close the face" is a common misconception. The further forward the ball, the more likely you are to strike it out-to-in, exacerbating the slice.
He was over cocking the club at the top of the backswing, which definitely makes it harder to close the face in time. So it was good to fix that. But I would have moved the ball back to the inside of the lead heel, once you fixed the over cocking, and then explained how to swing in to out, under the top, better.
We used the same principle down wind at our course in Scotland that gave you extra mileage, into the wind we hit a low draw to give the ball topspin which gave good roll and was great for controlling your shot. chipping with an eight or nine iron was the same all for control of the ball. a chip high shot with a 54 downwind just took off you could not control the spin. It is a different game on a windy coastal course that you need to understand. A famous player once said four 72 would win or be very close Gary player proceeded to do that and win the open.
What helped me, was to find a driver that i could adjust, face a bit more closed.
I'm confused, I didn't hear you explain where you got that 95% stat from.. 🤔
I always slice my drive, except when I hook it. The fairway is safe when Im playing.
I think there is a time in your swing development to try this... you dont see many pros using this though. Maybe fix the root cause?
I like this
4:14 "On a big fairway". Translation: On a normal golf course, that ball is two fairways over to the right. 🤣
😂😂 very true, hope you enjoyed it.
where are you located? I like to come out and get this lesson
We care at The Grand Golf Club in Sand Diego
Guys, you need to get Aaron on the channel, best ball striker on the planet!
We will 💯 %. Excited to share.
Would stalling the hips on follow through contribute a ‘strong fade’.
No the stalling of the hope usually happens to help square the face
"on a big fairway". Savage
😂😂
Lol right????
Is Max any relation to the late great Groucho Marx? 😊
Not even sure who that is 😂
I could correct anyones slice, I came up with the anti slice swing
"on a big fairway".....😂😂😂😂
Just get to your left side before you hit the ball
If I could control my driver better my scores would drop significantly, under pressure you will struggle to keep the driver in play
Hope this was useful to you Don
Buddys still in the bush to the right.. doesnt matter that its 20 yards farther..
Putting the ball further forward if you're struggling with a slice seems like a recipe for disaster as you're going to catch the ball as the path moves left, making it worse.
Only if thew shoulders follow. Yes moving the ball further forward shifts the path slightly you also hit the ball later in the arc which mean the face is more left and sometimes can change face to path relationship. The proof was in the pudding with Max here.
Apparently you are not watching the results
@AlanNahoum-lc6ic My logic is sound. Hitting it more on the left without closing the face will make it worse. The key was the 'toe winning the race'
@@Vnam72Your logic is only sound if it works in practice, what moving the ball up REALLY does is it gives the face more time to close. Effectively giving you a better chance at hitting it straight.
@brendanomalley7603 I used to move the ball further left, if your face isn't closing (as his wasn't here) then it's just a bigger slice. You assume the face will close but this has to be learnt. The best drill in this video was the toe winning the race, i.e. closing the face.
Just use an open stance.
Please get him a QI10
When the instructor realizes and communicates that lower body MUST start the downswing. His hands are starting from the top. Correct the fundamentals.
His hands start from the top due to being too narrow and arm run off. That’s the symptom not the cause. We always go to the root cause. This is where amateur golfers go wrong. They see the symptoms but don’t see the cause.
@@meandmygolf. Nope..sorry. Hogan 101. Starts with the hands is almost always the cause not a symptom. We can agree to disagree on this. Yep, I have been doing this a while.
@@Michaelmontana08 awesome. That's what is great about golf. There is no one way.
Gift the poor guy a more lofted club!!!!!!
Why is the instructor always the one bending down to tee up a new ball? I see this in every instructional video no matter what.
We control the hit then. Don’t want rapid fire practice which can happen with golfers. We slow them down
still cant hit it straight.....
Just an open stance.
distance doesn't matter if this guy is never getting a ball in play.
Totally correct. Max was longer and straighter which was even better.
Put chapstick on your club face and you will NEVER slice again
That guy has a HOG on him
He didn't hit it straight???
He was much straighter Mark. He started the lesson hitting 60 yard slices.
Why not have students try to hit towards "right field" ?
Nonsense, selling a dream, the Pro's don't hit every fairway, if a pro hits 10 out of 14 fairways, he has had a great day, the pro average is 8 out of 14 fairways hit
We haven’t said that you should hit every fairway Jim. Golf is a game of misses. The best players just don’t miss as bad. That’s what this game is about. Take the good and the bad. Keep working on getting better and it’s great to dream.👍🏻
Thought he got worse!
Where was the Improvement. ??? 😂
Thanks Paul! 😂
@meandmygolf. was only joking. You said he played baseball, I'm self-taught, and found my driver swing easier when I bought a baseball bat and and dropped my swing plane just around or a tad below my shoulder plane. I would have explained it that way to him. Last 5 rounds I've played to single figures.
Just find it easier to explain the golf swing in terms people already understand.
All said, love watching you guys 😊
Ppl trust dudes with European accents for golf instruction
The guy has a baseball swing. Dropping his right shoulder opens the club face. Get his shoulders and weight level....that will do more than any other of this suggested goofiness
Weak
It's his ridiculous mustache causes the slices, not the club.
I like the stache 👍🏻
Great video but Max was annoying.
Max was awesome. Great energy
The title says straighter not longer, the end result was longer but all over the the place?
He was much straighter. He was hitting 60 yard slices at the start.