The One Above All VS The Presence | BATTLE ARENA | Marvel VS DC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2019
- Two omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent gods are going head to head, but only one is actually coming out on top! The god of Marvel or the god of DC? Who is it? Well lets find out!
THE ONE ABOVE ALL - 0:15
THE PRESENCE - 2:13
FIGHT BREAKDOWN - 4:18
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If The One Above All appears in the MCU, he should either be played by Kevin Feige or just voiced by Morgan Freeman. And if he appears in any more comics, he should take the permanent form of Stan Lee
Agree
His jackirby and stan lee he represent will of writer
He should be played by keanu reeves but the voice should be a recreation of stan Lee
Stan Lee é o desenhista o diretor é acima de One Above All já apareceu em quadrinhos.
I think keanu Reeves is best to play him
Stalemate.
The One Above All vs The One Below All.
We dont have that much information on TOBA but we do know it's The opposite of TOAA but we don't know how powerful it is
THESE BISCUITS Yeah I know, I’d imagine they’re the ying to each other’s yang.
@@tawon1984 look at Joke Battle wiki 😂😂😂😂😂
Reasons?
@TheHeavenly Texts undertaker chockslams the presence.
SPOILER:
The Ultimate, Omnipotent, Omniscent, Omnipresent Being wins.
R/wooooshhhh
@Devin Andrews lmao Hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Mike Burnsy
Accept the Presence for he himself has said their are External Forces above him. Like the Overmonitor.
@Devin Andrews My Dads Shotgun Vs Your Balls.
Disposable_Hero Balls of steel wins
So the same character beating up himself.
*Logic*
This whole fight they just keep saying stop hitting yourself
@@zombiewolf3244 that would be hilarious AF
Their not the same he’s explaining it 😂
Are u dumb
If the One Above All is in fact the Marvel writers he can't beat The Presence. Marvel can't erase something that doesn't belong to them.
I mean if you don't consider market dominance a way to destroy competition...
He Can use whiteout so the one above all wins
But it goes the same way for DC's writer
Just because he was created from marvel does not mean he can’t beat a dc character
But neither cam the presence so it is a draw
This is the first video that actually went deep and picked a winner.
Well done👏
Who won
@@KingBeyonder616 the one above all
Finally someone gives this match up a real shot and decides who wins!!! I'M proud of you Dan!!
The Dark Knight Forever I agree
Cause his is the first one I've seen with a different outcome
@Mike Burnsy ya I've hread that TOAA isnt omnipotent but even still no one has decided a winner(atleast not the video's I've seen) but he gave a verdict so take is a big improvement! I would rether have him choose the wrong victor than not choosing one at all
@@kenaslalson7626 Actually one above all is omnipotent
@@user-vf7vz6qx4d The one above all lost to Thanos
Pretty sure this was done already and ended in stalemate
That's why he gave examples of those other videos that resulting in stalemates in this vid.
No the one above all wins cause the present ages but the one above all dose not.
Even spider man can beat one above all its was confirmed
Ziggy The Biggy Piggy true 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😈
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It would be a tie because they both are like the same
White Batman no one above all wins
I'm sorry but one above all would win
One above all would win.
@@billyfinlay4159 of course
@@christymurphy7283 100%
Here's a thing, the presence got surpassed by Lucifer himself while no one ever challenge or equal to the one above all
If Lucifer proved that he is more powerful than The Presence, then he has a chance against TOAA, right? Otherwise, it's confusing.
Lucifer never surpassed The Presence, he just separated from him and his creation that is the DC multiverse.
@@joshuaandino No. Even if Lucifer were more powerful than the presence, you cant just be "more powerful" to go against an omnipotent god like TOAA.
@@johnthegamerman404 then great evil beast is my answer lol
@@rieqgreg2138 that's not canon multiple writers confirmed that
More like
Grant Morrison vs Stan Lee.
Fax
The one above all is jack kirby if I'm not mistaken
@@glennthehelper4524 The One Above All is a golden homeless looking person
@@joshuaandino ? One above all can take on any form.
@@glennthehelper4524 but his most used form looks like exactly what the other guy said
Question,how would a being with
Absolute infinity strength
Absolute infinity speed
Absolute infinity reaction time
Absolute infinity durability
Absolute infinity stamina
And ofcourse immortal
Fair against a being like the one above all or the presence?
They would lose
They would lose because since the one above all is essentially the writer of the story, he can simply ignore or retcon those powers
That's basically pre-retcon beyonder, and he got ret-conned so they lose
Bro exactly thank you for stating this because their is legit no winner. Both their powers are infinite along with their strength and knowledge so non of them would win
why only immortal?
You mean invincible?
the presence slaps cuz he looks like the monopoly man
Nope
Take a joke softie. @@gregtheradical
Actually, it sounds more logical to me that the Presence would be the writer and the Over Monitor could be the publisher. Publishers would gauge the success of the publication based on the fans reaction to it's writing (based on how well it sells) and if that publication is not a success the publisher would either replace the writer or cancel or remake the entire publication. Just a thought.
Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
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LMAOOOO
The Presence is the Writer
The Overvoid is the paper
The over monitor is the pen
The hand is the hand of the writer
The source is the writer's imagination
The voice is how the writer speaks with his creation.
The Writer IS the Presence but unlike TOAA, the presence is based on the Christian God, an all powerful being with multiple personalities yet only one mind.
He is omnipotent and the battle would never end in a draw. 2 omniscient beings know they can't beat each other.
Its a draw, its like you say God vs God. If in the real Life God is our God, its the same but Just one a another dimension.
@bloody assault he is trying to make a point
@bloody assault you clearly dont understand there is becasue there 2d 3d 4d and it goes on so theres no point of commenting that if u dont know urself
Im athiest so your god is just as real as these two omnipotent beings or any fictional being
@@PS2GAMER100 no one asked you tho lmaoo
Emperor Joker vs God King Doom
God king doom
Doom slaps
tawon1984 doom
Thanos
@@thanos7459 my boy
John Wick vs Ethan Hunt. And yes they are comics. :)
That's good, Harry Potter isn't a comic but Danco has had multiple Harry Potter characters go head to head.
John wick
Ethan Hunt wins
Jack reacher takes both
The John Wick movies came out first before the comics. Also the comics aren't canon anymore.
If the one above all and the presence merged during the dc marvel amalgamation they would have become the presence above all
Well you know what this means... ONE ABOVE ALL VS OVERMONITOR!
One above all easy
@Proxima danco is just a dumbass
@@DagothUrAmaranth true
These are such good videos. Really useful research. Plenty for us to chew on.
The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation) vs The Chaos King (Marvel) vs The Anti Monitor (DC)
Fully powered Anti-Monitor or weakened?
@@ii3lazelordz267
Full power.
Chaos King wins
Anti-Monitor (going from infinte earth's to just one is no joke)
You guys don't understand how powerful the Scarlet King is do you?
The One Above All
He is the true god in Marvel Multiverse. Whereas The Presence himself has mentioned that there are higher beings than him in DC Multiverse. And not to mention Marvel Multiverse is much much, infact infinity bigger than DC Universe. This proves The Presence is the mightiest being in his Universe but still dwarfed by TOAA.
That's not true at all. DC has infinite universes and marvel is one of them. Marvel universe is inside DC's
Awesome video like always. Hey Danco, I was thinking about s heavy battle, with kratos and dante from devil may cry. That would be a sick one.
Is this draw?
How would they fight?
Personally I'm a dc fan so I choose the presence but its really based on your opinion
As a Marvel fan, this would probably be an infinite stalemate unless one of them gets bored and asks to stop.
Honestly there really isn’t a winner. But same I prefer DC. People keep saying he’s called “the one above all so he wins” which I think is a dumb statement
Proxima ok I’m a marvel fan and I agree with you but chill bro no need to be toxic we are the comic book slash dc slash marvel slash anime slash all beards things community no hat is needed
The one above all was said to be the writer. Maybe stan lee and you know your not beating stan lee. The presence is multiversal while the one above all is omniversal.
@JSG STUDIOS See that whole thing you just said is cap 💀💀💀. In the Lucifer comics If you HAD READ THEM shows that the Presence is dead. He has been killed, somehow, by the Archangel Gabriel. The presence isnt completely OMNIPOTENT. TOAA Is truly omnipotent, boundless, created a much larger verse. The presence stays in-character, TOAA is basically the marvel writer. Without TOAA nothing can exist. TOAA is TRULY OMNIVERSAL. The presence was showed to have to make a deal with GEB so he was somewhat stalemated... So he is not omnipotent.
Theory: The One Above All and The Presence are one and the same. Discuss.
That's true, TOAA and Presence are the same. However, some fans will disagree and say the God of DC is actually The Overmonitor.
Big Josh yeah but tbh the presence is more powerful than overmonitor he’s the one true original god
deku solos
The Presence win
@@Lucifer-jp1xw
Nope
Regardless of what he or anyone says, this is definitely a stalemate. It's really hard to determine who would win between people who are literally GOD of their respective universes. Gods that can literally do ANYTHING. Thanos with the HOTU I'd basically him with TOAA's power. And look what Thanos did with that. Just erased everything.
Ummm i mean dan just debunked why TOOA wins but yeah sure stay in your denial stalemate bubbld
Ehh I'd say stalemate
Did you even watch it?
This also stated before why the gods from different universes don't fight? It because of one or two different reasons. One because we hear this how can a omnipotent being beat another omnipotent? Or we also hear about this maybe because all the gods in all fiction is the same being but go by different name , forms and different perspectives of personality and sometimes powers and abilities. But that's just a Theory.
I think he read my comment of him running out of ideas. 😂😂😂
@@significantnobody823 what?
@@emmanuelonss2093
Yeah right you didn't even watch it.
You don't got proof without watching it.
Nice Dan! Thank you for actually working on this fight to pick a winner
Who won
@@KingBeyonder616 TOAA
The One Above All Oneshots The Presence
-The Presence was shaped by cats so he isn't omnipotent
-And he dosn't know what is outside the primal monitor so he isn't omniscience
TOAA is basically the writer, and he is:
Supreme
Outerversal
Omnipotent
Omniscience
Omnipresence
Omniarch
Omnifarious
Omnilock
The Presence isn't
TOAA easliy wins
"Nuff Said"
All Powerful Sentry But can they beat Farmer with shotgun?
Wrong, as usual
All Powerful Sentry he wasn’t shaped by cats lol, the cats aren’t even before the endless, read Sandman and Sandman Overture, there not even before the endless
Dark Woods only if he doesn't use his shotgun but even than its difficult
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If the Presence and TOAA fought eachother it will either be a draw or an ever lasting battle...
so the winner is none of them
Yes bro no one decided who win Its TOAA or Presensce?
Toaa is higher being than Presnce
But if they fight it will never lasting it takes forever and forevee the fights because TOAA and presnce is Immortal theh cant die its draw becuzz they have same powers and abilities
It won't be a draw TOAA will win this even the writers of dc said this
@@hemlo6128 You're a dog don't barking if you don't know
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The one above all looking like the homeless theif from Dennis the menace tbh
Way to go 3 deep and follow it up with a great explanation. Great work!
5:08 this is the time when you just earned a new subscriber 👏😌
The one above all isn’t the writer and the over monitor is not the writer. The writers are the writers. Not the one above all or the over monitor... the one above all is the strongest. If you want the writers to fight it would be a bunch of old men arguing.
Who Wins Spongebob Vs One Above all?
The one above all because he is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent he could literally give spongebob a splinter or take away his spatula and its over
KILLER DESTROYER 🙄🙄
Toaa one-shotsh
Think about this. The presence displayed something the one above all has never crossed before during The Spectre 1992 #61. The presence was able to break laws that even himself put into place that was considered IMPOSSIBLE to be broken even by the most powerful entities in the DC universe such as Lucifer/Michael. The fact that he is able to contradict his own concrete laws tells it all. Think about this. If I create a being and say “You have enough power to win every single fight. Even defeat me, your creator.” Does this mean that my creation could kill me? If I wanted it to. OR I can contradict the reason I created him in the first place and still be able to kill him. Confusing isn’t it? This is what makes the presence so powerful. Nothing has to make sense to us, we’re pawns on HIS chessboard, and in the eyes of THE creator, you can do as you will with you’re own creation. However, this doesn’t mean he’s more powerful it just shows that the presence has greater feats that The one above all.
That's one feat. You named one feat, ascribed a fog of confusion to it and then pluralized the word. And your one feat is going up against danco's reasoning, your words didn't make me forget all other information I've ever heard xD You think the writer can't break their own logic....? Is that your point in context then..?
chicken fried rice is good
But it would still be a tie
The one above all has literally had a conversation with the creators of his character in the Marvel head office lol. How can you top that? He could literally just walk over to the DC building and get them to erase his competition literally😂
One above all is the writer as danco said though...pretty sure the writer can make or break his own laws that he creates lol
The funny thing is there are people who claim both of these characters are omnipotent, when in fact they aren't.
TOAA confirmed itself it wasn't truly omnipotent.
The presence said he was shaped by outside forces.
So basically this fight is, whoever you like better wins because they both are basically the same thing and pretty equal.
@@curious_thinker weird example, but being created by outside forces also mean they gifted you your powers and abilities, which implies something game the Presence omnipotence, and since that is the case, he'd be nigh omnipotent, because the force could create another omnipotent being like the presence, which wouldn't work, because you can only have one omnipotent being.
So he'd have to be nigh omnipotent.
Call Me Cora the presence was never created by something eles. It’s just he didn’t have a physical form. His physical form was shaped by the dreams of people in the dc multiverse. That’s why he looks like a monopoly dude. He just didn’t have a physical form. He left that job to the dc multiverse. Even the writers confirmed it.
@@alphareturns5988 The presence was shaped by outside forces. And either way, he is still not omnipotent, because he had to be shapes by outside forces.
The true god of DC is the overvoid. It has no true limits.
Call Me Cora the presence created himself. His true form isn’t physical. He was never created by outside forces. And the presence is above the overvoid. The writer confirmed it.
Call Me Cora his physical form was created by the dreams of the dc universe. He existed before the dc universe. He just didn’t have a body.
Before viewing this, I say it should be a stalemate.
No, the over monitor is not in our universe, it’s part of the dc universe and he’s just the most powerful. He just has an infection which makes you have a universe in your body. The comics take place inside his body. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t fictional. He’s just strong. But not incharged of dc.
pp
Whats the soundtrack in the background?
Omg thank you so much I’ve learned something
Good break down. Better efforts than most. I have to understand how anyone else would call this a draw but for me personally the determination comes by who's writing I like more & it's TOAA for me. So I agree here! Good job.
The One Above All is exactly that: the most powerful in all fiction and across all the omniverses. FACTS
The presence has similar power to an abrahamic god
@@thought-provoking795 no he doesn't, not even close to close♾
Lucky Sichali butthurt
@@thought-provoking795 Don't you dare compare the actual GOD who is responsible for your living today with a fictional character writen by people
Lucky Sichali im not comparing but i said similar powers. Which means the presence could create worlds
Isn't there 'The Writer' in DC that is said to have made all of DC, including the presence and the overmonitor and all that?
The writer Grant Morrison didn’t create the presence for he is the embodiment of God
True
The one above all is ridiculously overpowered. Im gonna go with him
David Simmons looooooool. This better be a joke. Name one thing one can do that the other can’t.
Who is not? The Presence is as powerful as TOAA.
@Mike Burnsy yet, i said the one above all would won and he was declared the winner
@Mike Burnsy yet you're here. Its really not this serious. Im not about to go back and forth about this my guy
@Mike Burnsy me too
These two would end in a statement
The Dying Tribunal vs Lucifer Eveningstar
Lucifer wrecks that marvel character
The Limbo Tribunal
LuciferwasASTAR
Great break down
Dr Light vs Spectrum
Trigon vs Shuma Gorath
Gilgamesh vs Shazam
Atrocitus vs Blue Marvel
Captain Atom vs Starbrand
Living Tribunal vs The Spectre
Ghost Rider vs Dr Fate
Etrigan vs Damien Hellstrom
Atrocitus
Starbrand
LT
Rider
Over monitor isn't most powerful being . DC's actual God is the writer AKA Grant Morrison.
Didn’t he get killed when he turned himself into a character into one of his own stories and got mauled by some monster because he wanted to write something suspenseful and typed too slow before he could finish the story and got killed by said monster.
What’s the point of this battle? They can’t beat each other
Joaquin G watch the video before you comment
You already did this!
When you showed us the Overmonitor, there was some room there is he part of another Universe there, liku Omegamonitor?
If the Over Monitor is the most powerful in dc and not the presence... THEN WHY DID YOU PUT THE PRESENCE IN THE TITLE
wdym, the presence is the strongest
Danco is brilliant using philosophy to see who would win a fight!
EPIC VIDEO YOU DID YOUR HOME WORK I SEE
I'd say this battle would end in a stalemate
Someone has to win in the end but there is no other answer than stalemate imo
Well there's few scenes that suggest the Presence is not Truly omnipotent just another extremely powerful Tier-1A outerversal entity.
Did you even watch it?
@@thorshammer7883 wait tier 1-A is really not facts. But their try to cover all the facts . That the claim of fan made opinions but not the claimed of The writer's in DC comics
@@gabrielhughes8221
Explain.
Great work danco. You nailed it it's pretty tough to do this matchup but you really did a beautiful job with this scenario and I definitely agree that the one above all wins
So basically in order for the One Above All to get to the Presence, he has to go through the Over Monitor who is basically the same. Not happening. Hell by default it’s a draw!
Can you do 10 DC or Marvel heroes or villains who can beat Cthulhu (Cthulhu Mythos)? 96th attempted request.
Yo DanCo Can u do SSJ Blue Goku vs Stormbreaker Thor, PLLLEEEEEEAAAASSSSEEE?
These two are unstoppable beings that have
No weakness
No limits
So it's safe to say neither could harm one another. So nothing that one can do could hurt the other. These 2 would never fight due to the fact they know that they can't stop one another.
So it's just Stan Lee vs Grant Morrison in the end
The most powerful being would be named "The presence above ned bully maguire''
Woah, a verified check with 3 likes and 1 comment? Btw, when on earth will you ever get a mustache?
Danco do John Constantine vs Reed Richard next plz
Wow!!! Iv never heard of the over monitor befor. It really does get confusing with try to figure out who is the be all end all in D.C. some time's
I know who’s more powerful that these 2 it’s God in this universe lol
That doesn’t count.
How about a four way fight.
NIGHTWING VS RED HOOD VS RED ROBIN VS DAMIAN ROBIN.
Nightwing wins, the only other i'd see winning is Tim tbh
Nightwing
i mean the red hood kills soo....
Jason Todd was a talented fighter, but so are the other robins, and he is the least capable robin. His only real advantage is guns, which the bat family is known to deal with on a daily. Dick Grayson is the most talented fighter, and he's also the best acrobat on earth, so he can really move. He also has the most experience. Damian has some good genes, but he's got less experience against crazy good martial arts than the rest. Tim Drake has a good chance of second place, but I think he's going to have to struggle hard against Red Hood (Jason Todd). The guns really make a difference
I never thought of looking at this fight that perspective you know how you detailed it that the one above all could possibly wet the way you explain it I never thought of it like that even though in my personal opinion I think they still with tie but I can see your angle on the argument
So, a few ideas:
Thing Vs Rhino.
Master Chief Vs Death Stroke
Ur Didact Vs Darth Vader
Arbiter Vs Death Stroke
Minecraft Steve (Creative Mode w/ cheat codes) Vs God Emperor Doom
God King Dr. Doom vs Black Priest Dr. Strange
Marquee of Death Vs Chaos King
Good match ups dr doom wins and marquee of death wins but really good match ups these are just my opinions
This video needs another update, due to TOAA being revealed to not be fully omnipotent in Thanos the infinity conflict. (Hell at this point Pre- Retcon beyonder is more powerful)
That’s not canon.
omnipotence isn't possible
Danco!can we get a new Thor versus anybody you want.
hmmm... 2 categorically omnipotent beings meet.
well.. since time is no object... they'd spend about 150million years simply staring at each other... and sizing each other up.
Perhaps coming to an amicable agreement.
This will end in a draw tbh, they're both equally matched
I agree its like like 0÷0 no one k ie the anwser yet tge anwser could be so clear
If they would ever fight it would be: TOAA: I will erase you!!!! TP: I'll remove the effect of being erased!!!! And vice versa and so on and so on
Finally someone shares my opinion that the one above all is above the presents and a rival to the over monitor.
So, it should be in fact, the overmonitor vs. the one above all. THOSE are the equals. Which then would be your new stalemate lol. Good catch.
Thanos vs Ares(DC)
Black Widow(MCU) vs Mystique(Fox)
Ares wins
Mystique via superhuman stars
Ares wins through hacks
Mystique has consistently been shown to be superhuman while Widow can barely keep up with superhumans without assistance, Mystique wins
Ares easiy
Black widow
This was stupid. They basically the same character
R they?
A few pages suggest that the Presence isn't truly omnipotent but just another nigh omnipotent.
Keep watching.
In a way their the same and not the same. The spectre also called The Presence The one above all. It's in the comics
Except the Presence have feats that put him below omnipotent in powers.
Why would they fight when they are both powerful Omnipotent & Omnipresent beings? It would be kinda pointless. From a personal opinion, I think they would conversate about their universes like two old men who've existed since the dawn of time & Space.
omnipotence isn't possible tho
Does anybody know how lady death and the one above all are related?
Well there's a few scenes that lead to the Presence being not Truly Omnipotent.
Rather just another extremely powerful nigh omnipotent Tier-1A outerversal entity.
Send them
@@mightyshady1016
It's pretty simple to see.
Like the Presence saying there's External Forces above him and there's the Overmonitor.
So yeah it's simple.
@@thorshammer7883 How doess that mean that the presence isnt allmighty?
@@thorshammer7883 maybe he was talking about the writers? Just like the one above all referenced the writers when he talked to spiderman? Also the overmonitor isnt above the presence. The overmonitor just was not created by the presence making it an external force.
@@mightyshady1016
If the Presence directly saids he's not omnipotent and that their are entities who rival him like the Great Evil Beast and are above him like the Overmonitor then yes I'm 100% sure he's not omnipotent.
True Omnipotent has no limits and no weaknesses and that is a absolute unchangeable truth.
If they'll fight, it's going to be a draw but I accept that TOAA is higher being than PRESENCE.
The One Above All and the Presence are essentially the same being and can’t fight or coexist.
Can you do a black tarantula vs deathstroke
Actually nobody wins, because there both on the exact same level of power and omnipotence, it will be like a fight of eternity vs eternity
TOAA is the only the omnipotent between them presence is not google it douchebag
TheChosenOne he’s still too powerful to be killed though
It’s a draw your clearly just a big marvel fan
@@billyfinlay4159 at this point even 00,0000000000001% would make difference so if the one above all is one above all is only 00,000000000001% he will win.
@@thechosenone9106 omnipotence isnt possible
im gonna have to say this fight goes to Chuck.
Couldn't barbatos have a chance either presence or one above all, since he overpowered world forger
This is litterly the 1st time danco MENTIONS Variant Comics. Wow. Man if DanCo and Variant Comics Made 1 video together it would be great almost no dislike what so ever
The one above all wins
Because the presence was affected by dr Manhattan
DC has the most powerful character out of DC and marvel.
@@sladewilson8862 which is?
Exactly and Gabriel killed The Presence too.The TOAA has never been and cannot be killed.
@@hoichiman2385 But didn't thanos figure out a way to surpass him? By using a weakness that he found or something?
@Mike Baranello Thats story is infinity conflict and is not canon.
Aren’t they technically the same person in a way
My brain has just been blown.🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
You've said it would be a draw in another video, unstoppable force vs immovable object
The overmonitor is not the writer.
Literally the overmonitor, or overvoid or whatever name you want to call it, is paper.
The entire parallel they were trying to draw, is the void, the overmonitor, the primal monitor etc etc etc is just paper. What the writer uses, to draw comics.
In DC it's described mostly as a tool, which everything springs from, and it is much more powerful than the presence, and has "abstract infinite intelligence" but ultimately it is still subservient and "held down" as things are "written across it's body".
So yeah, one above all is even higher then the overmonitor.
TOAA wins
You are wrong Marvel has 616 universe .But dc has endless universe.
Trust me bro,this is your best judgment Well done