Comic Book Swimsuit Issues - Atop the Fourth Wall

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  • Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara looks at the trend of comic book swimsuit issues from Marvel to Zenscope!
    atopthefourthwall.com
    Originally released August 6th, 2019.
    ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION: In which deodorant has more relevance to this topic than you would think.
    #swimsuits #marvel #comics
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  • @CaladonianQueen
    @CaladonianQueen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    Speaking as a straight girl: that Captain America one where he's dreamily washing his hair in a sunset lagoon while wearing stars and stripes trunks is genuinely lovely.💖
    And that Collosus one is cute too, even though he has ladies fawning over him to detract from the female gaze.
    (But seriously: no Nightcrawler???)

    • @AzureIV
      @AzureIV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Nightcrawler has a swimmer's body and is very flexible, it should've been obvious.

    • @AT4W
      @AT4W  5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      I know, right? Nightcrawler makes ONE appearance in this - in the background of a group shot teleporting in.

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@AT4W That's discrimination towards the one demonic and elf body shape! Nightcrawler would have pulled out the swimsuit nicely! Let the Elf show his Swashbuckler charm!

    • @alicedarhk9790
      @alicedarhk9790 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ich liebredich mein Nightcrawler

    • @gennybaratta2460
      @gennybaratta2460 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I’m a bisexual woman and I would eat wiped cream of that Captain America’s abs

  • @orezblades
    @orezblades 5 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    The Hawaiian shirt still being on under the doom costume really sells Vacation Doom.

    • @jamesmallone
      @jamesmallone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Vacation Doom sounds like it should be an alternate costume in a video game.
      Also, no Deadpool - because all the Marvel Swimsuit Specials were made before he blew up in popularity and became the comedy character we know and love. That's a missed opportunity right there.
      I think a Deadpool swimsuit special might be the one inspired angle to justify bringing them back.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jamesmallone Maybe if there was a new Marvel vs Capcom game that had costumes on par with Street Fighter, I could see Vacation Doom.

  • @Tamashikiri
    @Tamashikiri 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Considering She Hulk is involved in most of these things, I think it's safe to assume that Pip the Troll was promptly sued into ruin for sexual misconduct.
    And then beaten to death.

    • @DarsiPadilla
      @DarsiPadilla 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Better by the Sensational She-Hulk over Bruce Jenner in Green-Face with steroids.

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Trevor Anthony She was so much cooler as a lawyer going through wacky courtroom shenanigans. Instead they took away all her intelligence and made her straight up replace Hulk. They don't even call her She-Hulk anymore. Anytime she shows up in a comic I'm reading, like in War of the Realms or Captain Marvel: Dark Avenger, I want to ask her how her law practice is doing.

  • @sirderpington7704
    @sirderpington7704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    the best one is the ghost rider one. it's just a naked flaming skeleton on the beach. I swear if I could get a wall print of it I would frame it on my wall.

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That'd be an interesting conversation piece.

    • @keelanbarron928
      @keelanbarron928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@JaelinBezel yeah no kidding.
      "Ah, so you have a poster of......?"
      "It's sexy ghost rider!"

    • @redjirachi1
      @redjirachi1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What are you, Albedo?

    • @spookyrosev6467
      @spookyrosev6467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As a mostly straight girl (might still be up in the air TBH) it is the sexiest of the male ones ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah, Albedo prefers body pillows. Something she can hold onto, and caress, and probably finger.

  • @mesektet5776
    @mesektet5776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    With all the villainess I started to wonder where Mystique. But then it occurred to me... “That’s why “Mary Jane Watson” keeps showing up in these.”

  • @bevanurielpetersen6255
    @bevanurielpetersen6255 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Proof that captain America does read the Constitution in his free time

    • @saurelius5217
      @saurelius5217 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's just the Marvel writers in recent years don't.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      S Aurelius Let me guess, you just discovered the X-Men are about bigotry being a bad thing, right?

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@L1701 Freaking Gator, em'I right?

    • @chubbubdreamer6904
      @chubbubdreamer6904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saurelius5217 Huh?

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm honestly interested in that being a plot point, that Cap is studying to be Constitutional Scholar.

  • @jimduchene
    @jimduchene 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Funny how a lot of comments focus on sex or sexuality when your conclusion is , in abstracto, "have fun with it, laugh with the subject and try to be different from just porn".

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    Now I wanna see Linkara's Doctor Doom vs Phelous' Shredder.

    • @the4thwallkid132
      @the4thwallkid132 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      "You may be a MASTER of ninjutsu shredder, But you will NEVER Master the Stick shift like DOOM has!!!"

    • @gtsgreatteacherscathach5550
      @gtsgreatteacherscathach5550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The best idea for a crossover ever!

    • @YourUncleBenis
      @YourUncleBenis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Or a team-up.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Maybe in a crossover review. Although I wish there was a TMNT vs Fantastic 4 comic.

    • @kitestar
      @kitestar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Crossover episode with phelous featuring that or riot

  • @lucetubegplusstillsux2678
    @lucetubegplusstillsux2678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Linkara with Sunglasses makes him look ready to start a Jazz Band

    • @JohnnyElRed
      @JohnnyElRed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If he is going to be any kind of musician, I think he looks more like Stevie Wonder.

    • @jamesmallone
      @jamesmallone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm reasonably sure he wore those glasses for a musician-themed one-off joke in one or more of his reviews.

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Only if he invites Batman and the Brothers of the Bop. XD

    • @matthewmckee3762
      @matthewmckee3762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To me, the glasses more suggest beatnik poetry.

  • @bug8992
    @bug8992 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I was kind of hoping to see batman with his cowl on and just a bathing suit. Just the thought of that makes me laugh.

    • @mitchellcowan2500
      @mitchellcowan2500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      “Alfred! Where’s my lei from the Avengers luau party?

    • @JohnnyElRed
      @JohnnyElRed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We know Selina Kyle would agree.

    • @jamesmallone
      @jamesmallone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sorry, but it's gotta be the Adam West style Batman with swim trunks over his costume, Old Chum.

    • @tskmaster3837
      @tskmaster3837 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cowl, cape and slingshot? "Because I'm Buttman!"

    • @TheSeptet
      @TheSeptet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel like if Bats showed up for a swimsuit shoot, he'd come wearing a deep sea diving Batsuit, complete with SCUBA tanks. "What? This is how I go swimming."

  • @ShinoSarna
    @ShinoSarna 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    9:00 I think this is parody of Rob Liefeld's artstyle. Despite his quickly rising popularity, a lot of people were critical - or just making fun - of him.

    • @leephillips4402
      @leephillips4402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      shinobody seriously his body is screaming

    • @Ellthom
      @Ellthom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I still love the video of Stan Lee ribbing Rob Liefelds work :P

  • @TheHeroOfTomorrow
    @TheHeroOfTomorrow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    "The fairy tale boob enthusiasts?" Did you mean: Hiro Mashima fans? :P

    • @johannesmakila2459
      @johannesmakila2459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well Fairy Tail does have some fan service.

    • @TheHeroOfTomorrow
      @TheHeroOfTomorrow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@johannesmakila2459 That would be the joke, Ted.

    • @KidSnivy69
      @KidSnivy69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm simultaneously sad and proud I understood that joke.

    • @jamesmallone
      @jamesmallone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have no shame in admitting I was thinking it too. I've never read or watched the series, but I know it's reputation.

    • @isaacgleeth3609
      @isaacgleeth3609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@johannesmakila2459
      *SOME* fan service!? Understatement of the decade.

  • @IzzuZiq
    @IzzuZiq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Between this and the rant about how DC and Marvel suck at marketing their comic books, I'm amused how the Marvel side of things boils down to "at least Marvel put in a bit more effort"

  • @natethebluekirby2089
    @natethebluekirby2089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Me: Who posts a video at 1 AM?
    Linkara: “Oh boy! 1 AM!”

    • @Comic3247
      @Comic3247 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      NatetheBlueKirby 20 it's 9AM over here in England

    • @jaredsamples6969
      @jaredsamples6969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      3AM for me

    • @agentq123
      @agentq123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      man you be up late

    • @HORRIOR1
      @HORRIOR1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      11 am here.

    • @orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS
      @orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and 11 am over here in isreal

  • @Alucard-A-La-Carte
    @Alucard-A-La-Carte 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    And then you get Nightwing, who IS often portrayed as being sexualized, his butt front-and-center in a lot of panels, his flexibility on-display, and...he has a MASSIVE FEMALE FANBASE. And he's basically the only mainstream male hero drawn that way.

    • @GenericProtagonist118
      @GenericProtagonist118 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I remember that infamously there was those images of heroes standing in front of all their other versions throughout time. While Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman were doing their regular hero stances, Nightwing was standing with his back turned showing his extremely toned cheeks. Some people thought it was funny, other's hated it. Personally I don't care about such squabbles but if that does it for you... I completely agree as to why.

  • @johnoneil9188
    @johnoneil9188 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I never thought the day would come to hear Linkara say the word "front butt"

    • @Nulthazor
      @Nulthazor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pretty sure the artists were going for thighs
      But front butt is way funnier

    • @legoking6165
      @legoking6165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the term "front butt" originated from the four part Futurama adventure Benders big score.

  • @JohnnyElRed
    @JohnnyElRed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The funny thing about the Hulk swinsuit appereances, is that those faces look weird taking into account that's his Professor Hulk persona... but had they made this a few years before, and those faces would have look completly normal and in character for Joe Fixit.

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    With Linkara saying cheese cake so much, you'd think he was the to get the Goldden Girls there.

    • @ADHDListComedian
      @ADHDListComedian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ... for a second I read that as Goldeen Girls and I just imagined a version where they each just had a Goldeen with them 24/7

    • @alanzapreservationtheythem2861
      @alanzapreservationtheythem2861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Blaze best Pokémon spinoff ever!

    • @OtakuboyT
      @OtakuboyT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roses crossover!

    • @Gaia_BentosZX5
      @Gaia_BentosZX5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He'd also likely summon Wallace from Wallace & Gromit due to the amount of times he uttered cheese.

  • @leephillips4402
    @leephillips4402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'd like a deadpool issue that deals with his disappointed at never being invited to these

  • @matthewsimpson5529
    @matthewsimpson5529 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Okay seriously, did Immortal Hulk emerge exclusively for the first two swimsuit issues before the current series?? WHY IS HULK SO CREEPY IN THOSE???

    • @alexjames7670
      @alexjames7670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm pretty sure that's the Professor Hulk (comic version not movie one) because when he first appeared there were several promotional images of him smiling insanely. That was Peter David's idea to make this Hulk's smile like the Jack Torrence "Heeere's Johnny!" thing.

  • @Avenger85438
    @Avenger85438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Comic artists need to learn, Time and Place. If the heroes are in a fight or having a dramatic moment. Have the art reflect that. Don't have a close up of their butt or something.
    If there in a situation where the individual's involved are hot for each other, and would be ogling or acting seductive, then it works.

  • @ZeddtheVHSotaku
    @ZeddtheVHSotaku 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Eliza and pollo in bikinis on the Title Card got me.
    Also Cable looks like he's going through the final stages of Youngblood's disease unhealthy muscular growth.

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does that mean Pollo identifies as a lady?

    • @Mobysimo
      @Mobysimo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ForrestFox626 Nah he's said before he dosent see himself as a woman, I think hes just trying it on for fun

  • @brianbrant6079
    @brianbrant6079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Pretty sure the Cable jeans ad is a reference to Rob Liefeld's jeans commercial.

    • @WCWit
      @WCWit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can't just say that without linking to it
      th-cam.com/video/54_ZPy8feyA/w-d-xo.html

    • @EmeraldCityVideo
      @EmeraldCityVideo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was my first thought, too

  • @rebeccahogan876
    @rebeccahogan876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I may be a lesbian but... yeah the exaggerated posing doesn't do it for me. Now if the *women* were doing the flexing, it'd be a different story.

    • @uberd3323
      @uberd3323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody cares

    • @rebeccahogan876
      @rebeccahogan876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@uberd3323 Then why did you say anything?

    • @uberd3323
      @uberd3323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rebecca Hogan because i was bored

  • @hotaru8309
    @hotaru8309 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can't believe you beat up that blind lawyer for his glasses.
    They even wound up being too small after all that effort you put into clocking the guy.

  • @Syurtpiutha
    @Syurtpiutha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Regarding Daredevil and Skiing, this may seem surprising, but skiing is actually pretty popular among blind people. Basically, they will wear a vest with the words 'Blind Person' on it, and will follow a sighted person down the slope. They'll stay in contact via a headset, and the sighted person will give instructions on directions and stuff.
    I have a blind colleague who goes skiing occasionally.

  • @mrbagmon2559
    @mrbagmon2559 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I like the idea of short stories and in universe parody ads.

  • @CaladonianQueen
    @CaladonianQueen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'd love it if they released swimsuit issues that function the same as anime beach episodes: where the heroes frolic and tie up emotional arcs before the climactic battle.

    • @OTheDetective
      @OTheDetective 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That sounds cool

    • @BakerMaN-ll8du
      @BakerMaN-ll8du 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There was a very recent issue of Averagers where Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor just talking in a hot spring. Later on you got Captain Marvel join in but you really dont get to see the swimsuit she's wearing, She-Hulk joins in too, naked, but and it's in her steroid monster form not her usual self. Also the art was bad.....it was really weird issue.

    • @jamesmallone
      @jamesmallone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That actually does sound like a good idea. I know Gen 13 did it, but I think Gen 13 was pretty anime-influence by that point anyway.

    • @BodySprayMan
      @BodySprayMan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BakerMaN-ll8du Oh yeah, what makes that especially off was that the previous issue was She-Hulk was going on about how she hated being ogled and hit on by her co-workers when she was thinner. Cut to the next issue, she gets full on naked and Tony openly, lewdy ogles her.

    • @BakerMaN-ll8du
      @BakerMaN-ll8du 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BodySprayMan Christ IKR! I swear Aaron seems get these spurts of autism when he try's to make fun of fans. The man had the subtlety of a bull.

  • @emilsoderman3691
    @emilsoderman3691 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Bah,no Thanos in a Hawaii shirt? Thats the best one!

    • @michaelnally2841
      @michaelnally2841 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanos in a Hawaii shirt and trunks with infinity stones on them

  • @wolfclaw719
    @wolfclaw719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I've always found the idea of a swimsuit issue fascinating, well when they're done with a comedic spin like the early marvel ones less so the pinup collections.
    But back to what Linkara said near the end about having in-universe explanations is funny as I had plans for something like that with my own comic I've been working on for the past few years as the premise involves a group of superheroes who get funding by being in a reality show (think more like 'Tiger and Bunny' as apposed to 'Youngblood' though) so the idea of the sponsors who pay for damages after the fights wanting a swimsuit issue would be brought up within the actual issue to give them a framing device and reason to be bikini-clad and poolside woth some of the cast a little less enthusiastic about the whole spiel, that said this idea was kinda a back-burner concept as I have yet to actually finish issue one... three years of work and nothing to show for it.

  • @mjanssenart
    @mjanssenart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The entire time Linkara just reminded me of Doctor Octopus from Spider-Man 2, because of those sunglasses

    • @eamonndeane587
      @eamonndeane587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder... Did he find a Rubberband?

  • @saurelius5217
    @saurelius5217 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Rule34 pre-internet.

    • @Tomha
      @Tomha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You remember when someone was a legend if they got their hands on hentai and brought it to school before the internet was common?

    • @kimifw58
      @kimifw58 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Check out Tijuana Bibles.

  • @majamystic256
    @majamystic256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If I ever make a comic or manga series, I want to make a swimsuit issue for fun.

  • @Altair718
    @Altair718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the parody ads are the best thing to come outta these. Oh and Cap casually reading the Constitution when there is like....am entire ocean to play in. XD

  • @josephsanti6219
    @josephsanti6219 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    9:11 The Cable parody was making fun of Liefeld appearing in the Levi 501 jeans ads in the 90s.

  • @benwasserman8223
    @benwasserman8223 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The weird thing about Grimm Fairy Tales' comics is that the stories are quite intriguing. It's just that every woman is dressed like a scantily glad pin-up model for no reason

    • @spawnfyre
      @spawnfyre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's mostly just the covers. The 2 main heroines of the univese Skye and Robyn are basically in regular super hero costumes. Yeah they show some skin, but I wouldn't really call them scantily clad.

  • @Artista_Frustrado
    @Artista_Frustrado 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the Udon one is even more baffling because most of those artists already upload pinup art for free on DevianArt anyway
    can we have In-Universe ads issues instead? those are way funnier

  • @juliewinchester1488
    @juliewinchester1488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Linkara would have done this in his own swimwear, but he realized our eyes weren't ready to bear witness to his gorgeous, manly muscles that would put the superheroes from the comics he reads to shame - so gorgeous in fact that it'd make our eyes burn from inside our skulls.
    Not because TH-cam would flag it as advertiser unfriendly or due to his own comfort, no - he did it for us, the viewers. Not all heroes wear swim suits.

  • @skylord2114
    @skylord2114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I don’t mind women in comics being in skimpy outfits as long as it makes sense for the character what I mean like power girl she has a reason to me it’s to show for body they’re proud of and it might assist with their ability

  • @Fyrmer
    @Fyrmer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Pretty sure that thing Punisher's wearing is a codpiece.

    • @YourUncleBenis
      @YourUncleBenis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tbh, I think she should spend a few nights fighting crime in that thing. I mean, the shock of seeing the Punisher bust into your place in a codpiece would probably slow your reactions down a bit.

    • @RabblesTheBinx
      @RabblesTheBinx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@YourUncleBenis I think that would work better with someone like Batman and a pair of fuzzy Bat-Boxers: "Oh, God, I'll go legit! Just put some clothes on!"

  • @isaacbailey3681
    @isaacbailey3681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    _Death-Con: for those who just want to watch the world burn._

  • @WraithTDK
    @WraithTDK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Quite possibly the single most awkward, geeky thing I can say about my teenage years in the 90's is that my friends stashed playboys while I stashed Marvel swimsuit issues. Don't judge me internet, I was young and household internet access wasn't a thing yet. Also, I've seen your fan art...

  • @misterabbadon977
    @misterabbadon977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    18:19 "The Lady Death Swimsuit issue..." AKA literally every issue of Lady Death, bar none

  • @Shadoestar
    @Shadoestar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Grimm Fairy Tales is actually a really good series. Zenescope has a bunch of other good titles as well, like Van Helsing, Robyn Hood, Wonderland, Oz and Fly.
    Zenescope also has a pretty large female readership that they didn't expect who were attracted to the strong female characters in their books. The women are actually portrayed respectfully and are pretty fleshed out (no pun intended).

  • @zephyrfields9977
    @zephyrfields9977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Post new fifty-two" and "reaaaal bad"... Is it time for Heroes in Crisis?

    • @KidSnivy69
      @KidSnivy69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'll have to wait for Event Comics Month next year

    • @zephyrfields9977
      @zephyrfields9977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KidSnivy69 Riiight. Sorry, got ahead of myself.

    • @MarvelMan4
      @MarvelMan4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not yet...got to do some of the OTHER bad stuff Tom King did first.

    • @KidSnivy69
      @KidSnivy69 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zephyrfields9977 P.S. I love your Robin avatar

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude, where did you get your avatar!? 😍

  • @InoMercy
    @InoMercy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As an (aspiring) pin-up artist, I appreciate you not just shitting on the idea of a swimsuit issue, and actually putting real thought into your critique of these things. For the record, I agree that if Swim Suit Issues are to continue, they should be more parodies of real in-universe magazines, with interviews, joke ads, a framing device, and the whole she-bang.
    The Grimm Fairy Tales pin ups are pretty bad, especially with their habit of shying away from full nudity. Like the one with the Little Mermaid covering her breasts with her tail fin (Which, admittedly one of their better pin-ups)it's weird she apparently doesn't have nipples. Zenoscope is an independent comics publisher, there is no reason not to have the occasional bare breast in their pin ups. It is what they're best known for.
    I think an obvious answer to the disparity between the female and male pin ups would be to hire more female artist for the swimsuit issues. I don't know how many woman artist were in the comics industry when those Marvel Specials were coming out; but it might have been a good idea to get some more female gaze images in there. And not just for the men, but also showing the heroines in ways women find sexy in themselves. Kinda like how Bayonetta was designed by a woman.

  • @ItsTheFizz
    @ItsTheFizz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Fairy Tale Boob Enthusiast"
    Aaaaaaaaand I'm reminded that Alan Moore's Lost Girls exists...

  • @EvilTurtleSlash
    @EvilTurtleSlash 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Given the blowup doll with Dr. Doom, could that have been an early sign of his crush on Squirrel Girl?

    • @legoking6165
      @legoking6165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be pedophilia. Squirrel girl is a teenager and Doctor Doom is at least in his mid thirties.

  • @theplaguegamer6216
    @theplaguegamer6216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    12:18 with the klanger thing u almost expected Linkara to make a joke about Darksied and his comfy chair

  • @devlinburgess2463
    @devlinburgess2463 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These are so much weirder and more surreal than I had expected. I always figured they were just straight up fanservice, not these pseudo-sexual fever dreams. That gargantuan image of Cable will never leave my nightmares.

  • @lsgreger2645
    @lsgreger2645 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I kinda wish Linkara found the Punisher speedo and was wearing it over his pants when he got up to walk away!

  • @cartoonkelly7924
    @cartoonkelly7924 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Do not judge DOOM!” That’s a different comic XD

    • @kimifw58
      @kimifw58 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a Roger Rabbit comic?

  • @JunAoi
    @JunAoi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I get you didn't read Gen13 or DV8 but Bliss' power (at this point in time) was literally death boners. She could stimulate people's pleasure and pain receptors via telepathy to the point. Not excusing naked Bliss in a bunch of NATO rounds or anything but it's shockingly in-character for her to lie naked in a symbol of death.
    Bliss is probably the best character after Sublime in DV8 btw.

  • @weirdotzero7065
    @weirdotzero7065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    While the Captain America one gave me a reminder of why I love me some beef, I do wish there was more beef in these.
    Like real, delicious, hot smoldering beef, not that fast food, barely qualify as food beef.

    • @KidSnivy69
      @KidSnivy69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He does have America's Ass

    • @OTheDetective
      @OTheDetective 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Primo meat

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So no Flash or Quicksilver for you.

    • @uberd3323
      @uberd3323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut up

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m not entirely certain you still mean men by the end and not actual 🥩

  • @SgtKaneGunlock
    @SgtKaneGunlock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I Appreciate that you called it the huttslayer outfit

    • @adeadphish7931
      @adeadphish7931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SgtKaneGunlock I am so glad that term is gaining traction, both in SW canon in real life pop culture stuff here

    • @chris7263
      @chris7263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd never heard it called that before, but I love it.

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never heard it either. I like it. People keep forgetting how badass Leia was for choking a space monster to death in impractical fantasy armor.

  • @GarlicPudding
    @GarlicPudding 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    AC Comics' Femforce had a swimsuit issue.
    Most of their heroines are size-shifters, so LOTS of giant woman hogging the beach there.

  • @StealthMarmot_
    @StealthMarmot_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oh cheesecake is so fun when it is so blatantly shameless. Make me chuckle. Self awareness is a good thing.

  • @adamf.charles5857
    @adamf.charles5857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Liknara had been turned into Morpheus? I dont watch plot parts for most of the time, so I dunno

    • @jamesmallone
      @jamesmallone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think the idea is supposed to be that he's wearing sunglasses as part of a summer theme - for example, the tropical themed shirt. Considering he's INDOORS, it's understandable your mind didn't go there.

    • @backupaccountforcooldaddyj7895
      @backupaccountforcooldaddyj7895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Looks more like Crowley fro Good Omens to me.

    • @BATCHARRO
      @BATCHARRO 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes a battle with Mechalinksano has left the Comicron trapped in a virtual reality where Linkara became the leader of a resistance.

  • @joetune1945
    @joetune1945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Oh, Linkarra. Sometimes you remind me just how young you really are.
    About the time of the first Marvel Swimsuit issue, Rob Liefeld starred in an TV commercial for 501 button-fly jeans, the tagline being '501 BUTTON YOUR FLY'.
    So of course, Marvel put out a parody with Rob's most infamous Marvel character packing a gun with a zipper on it with the tagline '401 ZIP YOUR ZIPPER'.

  • @blondbraid7986
    @blondbraid7986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Regarding the "equality" of the beefcake men, I'd say that the vast majority of women don't find men who look like steroid abusers sexy. If they'd actually wanted to have broad mass appeal to women, look at Edward or Jacob from Twilight or basically any yaoi characters ever. Sure they might have some toned muscles and visible abs, but they don't look like a human version of a Belgian Blue bull full of visible veins and sinews. And Namor at 15:00 just looks like he was straight up flayed alive.

  • @BlackHook13
    @BlackHook13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Sometimes cheesecake is more alluring than straight up nudity and porn. Just saying.

    • @OPLOmega
      @OPLOmega 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I mean, fair, but there's still a large amount of cheesecake that can be gotten free online in this day and age.

    • @BlackHook13
      @BlackHook13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@OPLOmega Sometimes artists need money to live.

    • @KidSnivy69
      @KidSnivy69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think I've lost that ability, because it does almost nothing for me nowadays.
      Then again, maybe I've watched too much echie anime.

    • @keelanbarron928
      @keelanbarron928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's because whatever is covered up is ALWAYS going to be more alluring then what you don't. (I mean it, at one point knees were considered sexy because they were rarely shown. I'm pretty sure those hijab things were put onto females so that men wouldn't get boners from hair.)

    • @aros0018
      @aros0018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think it was That 70's Show that had kind of a funny line that Playboy should have a swimsuit issue. "Sometimes I need to be teased!"

  • @SereneDancer
    @SereneDancer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always love it when you delve into things like difference of how women and men are represented. Overall a great episode and i loved the DeathCon bit in the credits

  • @aaronbourque5494
    @aaronbourque5494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Maybe it's just me, since I'm pretty sure this just barely predates her, but Doom's blow-up doll... looks like Squirrel Girl.
    Seriously, it's about the right height, and the hair... maybe it's just a loony fan's brain finding connections where none exist. At least, I sure hope so...

  • @DoomMomDot
    @DoomMomDot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the idea of them being in universe with interviews and ads. it would make sense that companies would try and get superhero endorsements. As to why DC never did one, somebody probably asked Wonder Woman to pose, she flattened them, and nobody dared bring up the idea ever again ...

  • @PaulSebert
    @PaulSebert 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Jeans commercial is a parody of the Levis commercial that Rob Liefeld appeared in shortly before bolting to Image Comics. I'm guessing drawing Cable in the most Liefeld-esc fashion was a massive "Take-That" to Rob. Even in '92 people where joking about Rob's art style.

  • @johnnycage112
    @johnnycage112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Tis the time of year for SWIMSUITS! :3

  • @elrick44
    @elrick44 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Never felt inclined to read Grimms Fairy Tales, you say... whelp, someone's gonna patrion request that

    • @JohnnyElRed
      @JohnnyElRed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He should have learned not to say those things in his videos a time ago. From here to a year, I'm seeing a whole string of Zenescope comics in the timetable.

    • @keelanbarron928
      @keelanbarron928 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Specking of that, can i get specifics as to where i can patrion request stuff? I have a few suggestions that need to be made.

    • @littlekuribohimposte
      @littlekuribohimposte 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keelan Barron You gotta watch his patreon. I believe he sells slots at the $80 tier and they go really fast.
      I’m sad we never got his review of Chrono Trigger since the requester picked something else for him to do

    • @keelanbarron928
      @keelanbarron928 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@littlekuribohimposte really? Damn. (Also that chrono trigger review would've been good for me since i never played it before and it would be an interesting way of seeing it.)

    • @littlekuribohimposte
      @littlekuribohimposte 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keelanbarron928 It's about 17 hours and a great rpg. If you can't find a copy in a used game store, it might be on Steam or your phone. Good way to spend a weekend

  • @maakujiten3812
    @maakujiten3812 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Why did he choose Zenoscope? The regular issues are a swimsuit issue already.

  • @Andy_Draws0209
    @Andy_Draws0209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched this last year about a week or two before I left for Anaheim to sell my artwork at the 2019 Anaheim Power-Con! This vid gave me both a good laugh and in a way reminded to not sweat the convention and just have fun drawing while selling!! So again thanx #linkara

  • @SuperSongbird21
    @SuperSongbird21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:42 I honestly though for a second it was Sam (the Falcon) Wilson as Cap!

  • @ReaperJ202
    @ReaperJ202 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    5:50 I have only one question, "Does Medusa's drapes match the Carpet"?

    • @leephillips4402
      @leephillips4402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      GravediggerJones201 considering its her that may be what we're seeing

    • @legoking6165
      @legoking6165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you please not say that? I do not want to envision women with pubic hair.

  • @tylersaez4095
    @tylersaez4095 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't wait to see Linkara rip into Tom King's Batman next week.

  • @rna151
    @rna151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh come on, if Cable leaves his guns behind *they'll get lonely*! You don't want that, do you?

  • @quirkstormjet3986
    @quirkstormjet3986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "A Post N52 Storyline that's REEEEEEEALLY bad"
    JL Vs SS? Heroes In Crisis?

    • @MarcoPolo-gr4xy
      @MarcoPolo-gr4xy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nope it’s a Batman two parter called “The Gift.”

  • @akhannar9368
    @akhannar9368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wait... Lady Death had a swimsuit issue?
    I know nothing about Lady Death comics, but unless she actually wore more clothes on in the regular comics, than her more well-known design, I expect the swimsuit issue to actually have her more covered than usual.

  • @tonyjoestar2632
    @tonyjoestar2632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I agree with your opinion on hero attire, but I figured at least in a sexy swimsuit issue is meant to entice people who are into dudes too.

  • @fermintenava5911
    @fermintenava5911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    As a bisexual man, I don't find most of the men in the Marvel issues very attractive. Not with the amount of sinews they add to the muscles.
    Compare that to the women, whose skin is drawn immensely smooth and soft.
    (Though that picture of T'Challa really was quite dreamy 😍)

    • @JohnnyElRed
      @JohnnyElRed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I attribute that to the 90's style of drawing. Had they made a swinsuit number today, I'm sure the men would had look actually sexy, instead of simply inflated with steroids.

    • @BakerMaN-ll8du
      @BakerMaN-ll8du 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a bi man, forgive if I word this weird, what poses does another man have to make to come off sexy and alluring? The same as the women?

    • @jamesmallone
      @jamesmallone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BakerMaN-ll8du I was wondering that myself.
      In general, I think it's nice to see women and LGBT viewers chime in the comments to give their perspective, since Linkara seemed to be just making assumptions about what they would think of the male pinups (not saying he doesn't have an idea of the frame of reference from interactions with fans, friends and colleagues, he might, just saying that's how he came off in the video)

    • @rickpgriffin
      @rickpgriffin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jamesmallone Well, I am bisexual and even though superheroes in general aren't my type I can give my two cents-- I like the guys in these issues. Well... depending on the art style anyway, that first one with creepy Hulk is just plain insofar as it comes to the body appearances. No see, my main thing is that I LIKE muscle. Not exclusively of course, I like lots of body types, but the women just tend to all look the same after a while. I keep wanting to see a bit more meat on them but a lot of superhero artists seem keen on drawing women so you can see their skeletons and that's just a turn-off for me.

    • @BakerMaN-ll8du
      @BakerMaN-ll8du 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rickpgriffin So you like muscle on your men. God this feels weird to ask, but do you like your men doing certain poses? If so which ones and why do you like said poses.

  • @SarcasticSnake64
    @SarcasticSnake64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my gosh, I can't believe it took me this long to notice that my woodwork made it to your wall! Nearly four months, my goodness. I'm so honored. This has brought me such joy In such a dark time in my life. Also I love that you have finally covered these issues. Keep up the great work Lewis!

  • @Nevertoleave
    @Nevertoleave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Daredevil didn’t know he was skiing. He wandered into the area thinking he was at a different event, everyone assumed he was there to participate, someone helped him put on the boots and stepped him into the skis and gravity took it from there

  • @samalinder
    @samalinder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My own addition to the Grimm fairy tales comic line, at our local comic shop they are actually black bagged because of the covers.
    Also, neat sun glasses

  • @TheUncomplicator
    @TheUncomplicator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m sorry Linkara,but with those sunglasses you remind me of the blind guy from men in thigh

  • @Merit2397
    @Merit2397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On an unrelated note, HOT DAMN, those are some SUEDE SHADES 🕶!!!
    Seriously, Lewis should have worn those back in the "Captain America: War on Drugs" review and had the "I Ware My Sunglasses at Night" song play in the background!!!

  • @Andy_Draws0209
    @Andy_Draws0209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't ya just LOVE to go fishing with Ol' Venom there, I mean what could be wrong with fishing with a completely bloodthirsty man eating psychopath whom is obsessed with Spidey! Lol haha

  • @BuddyL
    @BuddyL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like that when you mention Male Gaze/sexualisation of women at 16:44 you show the infamous Namorita-in-a-green-👙 pic... as the character WAS MEANT TO BE UNDERAGE AT THE TIME! Good God!
    The 'Street Fighter' one was probably their (belated) attempt to get in on the 'DOA: Xtreme Beach Volleyball'🏐🎮 audience.

  • @Ellthom
    @Ellthom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Poor Doom, I wont judge you dude...

  • @chaoticjusticezero
    @chaoticjusticezero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:52 "What does The Punisher use when he has cockroaches?"
    Napalm. Lots and lots of napalm.

  • @sinvector8020
    @sinvector8020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why does the Captain America pin-up look so much like Chris Evans? And this is waaaaaay before the MCU

  • @lavernebennet7395
    @lavernebennet7395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd question the inclusion of Tiffany Lords (the girl standing next to Guile on the beach) in that Street Fighter issue, considering she's in high school, but her design is already really sexualized and her official title is "Sexy Cheerleader" so I guess it's essentially to be expected.

  • @LupineShadowOmega
    @LupineShadowOmega 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curse Words as a whole is really tongue in cheek. I really enjoy the series and was really surprised to see it pop up here. Kudos.

  • @TOK150
    @TOK150 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow. I have officially been watching AT4W for 10 years now(since about 2 weeks ago actually) ever since Superman vs the Terminator: Death to the Future!

    • @weirdotzero7065
      @weirdotzero7065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome. Mine won't come around til May 2021, with the 10th anniversary of Superman Meets the Quik Bunny.

  • @Catalyst375
    @Catalyst375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15:25 - Liefeld must have drawn this. What the heck is up with Psylocke's head and neck position?

  • @saintdane05
    @saintdane05 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My personal favorite swimsuit issue happens to come from the wicked and the divine,and it's not even a swimsuit issue. It's a fashion magazine that uses the various characters. It's all done by the amazing Kevin Wada, who actually does pin-up material. He has a pretty decent balance between men's and women's fashion, lots of very spoilery in Universe interviews, some of what you're actually pretty revealing. Definitely check it out, I think it's either issue 23 or 24

  • @DarsiPadilla
    @DarsiPadilla 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For Mrs. Watson-Parker. But yeah, Marvel has some issue in having Peter and Mary Jane be married.
    5:56, 8:27, 13:33

    • @DarsiPadilla
      @DarsiPadilla 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sparten 117 she's modeled after Ann-Margret. If the Spider-Man lore existed in real-time, Mary Jane would be a mixture of Ann-Margret with Cindy Crawford and Sigourney Weaver. Plus, Peter Parker would be bound to retire during the 90s and onwards and continue his career as a professor in ESU; while MJ rises from model to fashion designer because it makes nore sense than the bullshit that is the All-New, All-Different lineup (which will unfortunately be adapted in the MCU).

    • @DarsiPadilla
      @DarsiPadilla 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sparten 117 you are utterly naive to think so.

    • @DarsiPadilla
      @DarsiPadilla 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sparten 117 with every story, there must be an end. If the MCU keeps going on, even with their "endgame", they'll eventually decline into becoming a dumpster pile like the original Marvel Comicss these days.

    • @alimowla3204
      @alimowla3204 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sparten 117
      nope, i just have to not comment when there isn't anything worth commenting about, sorry.

    • @AnInsideJoke
      @AnInsideJoke 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Darsi Padilla I don't read the comics (want to, but am in that "locked out" situation Linkara mentioned a couple months back), so I'm not sure how much of a "mess" things are on the comics side, but I do know that there will be major signs that the MCU will quickly be in trouble, one of them being resurrections and prequels.
      ESPECIALLY if those resurrections and prequels are the Steve Rogers/Chris Evans Captain America or Tony Stark/Robert Downey Jr. Iron Man. Once I got over the fact that they killed off Stark (fave character), it hit me that, if the MCU ever starts to "flag" in the company's eyes, that they would bend over backwards to try and lure Evans or Downey back (I know Evans has been vocal about being done, but haven't heard much from Downey either way) and resurrect the characters to "bring the crowds back," consequences to the storyline and it's integrity be damned.
      If they are smart about it, they might try to test the waters by releasing a "prequel" or similar movie starring the characters that takes place during one of the year or longer gaps between the major points in the story before they make the resurrection official.
      So, if you end up suddenly hearing about a Captain America 4 detailing his time as a fugitive post-Civil War, or an Iron Man 4 set in the gap between number 3 and Age of Ultron, be prepared for the beginning of the MCU's (actual) end.

  • @imperialsunstrider7873
    @imperialsunstrider7873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So we talking about Heroes in Crisis or Tom King Batman? Or maybe even the more recent Detective Comics issues? I remember when the Arkham Knight was introduced her opening monologue was incredible in how moronic it was.

    • @jamesmallone
      @jamesmallone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's Tom King Batman. But it's an arc featuring Booster Gold, so it's sorta-kinda a prelude to Heroes in Crisis (which Linkara has mentioned multiple times will get reviewed at some point. It's too recent for now)

  • @eugeneruby433
    @eugeneruby433 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    >Be me.
    >Add new AT4W episode on Monday to watch later queue
    >Video slips through the cracks of 450+ playlist, passively forgotten about.
    >Sunday night.
    >"Holy crap, new-not-so-new AT4W episode! Sweet!"

  • @SasukeUchiha-ix2yk
    @SasukeUchiha-ix2yk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Venom fishing just made my morning lol. ths whole episode did

  • @pgj1997
    @pgj1997 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These reminded me a lot of the Touhou manga "Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia", an in-universe tabloid that also features some in-universe ads. Like Doremy Sweet selling a brand of pillows, or Sakuya Izayoi putting out a shady employment ad for the Scarlet Devil Mansion.
    (one of my favorites of the Touhou print works, by the way)

  • @Koushakur
    @Koushakur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    24:20 Not drawing nipples is simply a basic form of censoring...

    • @jamesmallone
      @jamesmallone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed. Anime and manga used to do that quite a bit. I'm not sure if they do it as much these days.

    • @henryt3301
      @henryt3301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamesmallone they still do.

    • @kimifw58
      @kimifw58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not for people who know what the human body looks like.

  • @shmee123ful
    @shmee123ful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Linkara: Viewers are you ready to learn about the matrix?
    Us: ok not what we were expecting but lay it on us
    Linkara: from doctor who?

  • @dmore454
    @dmore454 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interestingly enough, the swimsuit issues weren't the only time Marvel would do magazines that were written from the perspective of people who lived in the Marvel U, as if the magazines were in-universe artifacts. I wanna say it was the Marvel Year in Review magazines they started putting out in the late 80s into the mid 90s.
    You'd get stuff like interviews with characters and top ten best and worst costumes lists with commentary by the Wasp.