Justice is Silent: Cassandra Caintrospective, Part 1-2: Batgirl #1-36 - Atop the Fourth Wall
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- Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, we begin a retrospective of the character Cassandra Cain!
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Originally released June 12th, 2019.
ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION: The Cassandra Caintrospective begins with No Man's Land and the first half of her solo series!
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Cassandra Cain, the Batgirl that everyone wishes was in a animated series or feature. While DC keeps wishing for people to forget her.
She's apparently gonna be in the Birds of Prey movie..... as a twelve year old.
Well, Dan DiDio since he enjoys wiping his arse on the graves of those talented than him while still not having the balls to just grovel to Disney about giving him a job at Marvel
Didn't she make it into Young Justice Season 3?
To Hell with DC! I will always remember Cassandra as the #1 Batgirl and view her as one of my top favourite DC Superheroes.
Mr_LRB
That character was not Cassandra Cain
I don’t know who she was
But she was not Cassandra Cain
She was talking so fucking much
Also, they made a stupid joke about her talking at the beginning of the movie
Fuck her right
So I guess Shiva... Killed her to life.
th-cam.com/video/gEr3PAQNG8s/w-d-xo.html 0:56
Damion Scott was a perfect fit for drawing Batgirl/Cassandra unlike previous artists of "No man's land" she really appear as a teenager in her solo book and not a full grown woman.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how nice her costume is? With Batman, you just can see the man beyond the mask. With Cassandra, you have a faceless terror. That small change in the mask makes the costume somehow even scarier than the bat already is.
Also, great series Linkara.
1st off:
"We'll have your favorite ice cream by the end of the day!"
"Chocolate."
Badass.
2nd: Gotta say, the jokes here are really, REALLY hilarious this time around. XD
3rd: Stephanie Brown retrospective in the future? Hell yes!
Cassandra Cain is a Great Character who's potential really gets hamperred by Bad Writting.
Eamonn Deane She actually has done pretty good since the New 52 imo.
@@ricardorios2355 Ehhhhhh. It's not been bad but they've given her little focus and she doesn't have the same depth as before. I have high hopes for her in Bryan Hill's Outsiders, though
Eli Burry-Schnepp you gotta admit though, her ripping the bat symbol right off Kate’s chest after she put down Clayface was super awesome.
I only acknowledge the good writing for her, especially her early issue days. Anything else I ignore and view as non-canon.
I have a very different take on Bruce talking about Cass failing to save John Robinson. I take it to mean that he recognizes that Cassandra will punish herself because they both have a similar guilt complex, not that he's angry at her. He's just... Batman so he can't communicate it well to Babs.
That is because he is an asshole.
I always viewed it as rather depressing from Batman's perspective since that's what he feels about himself every time he couldn't save someone, regardless of the circumstances and whether it was even possible. Guy just damns himself for every failure.
That is what he's saying. since they where talking about why Cassandra was pushing herself so hard
No, it's the exact same dickish reasoning he used to fire Helena.
@@Koshirro er.... No. I've read these comics last week since I wanted to read her solo run before this video came out.
Yes he was a dick to Helena. I will not deny that.
But the Cass situation? She had failed the guy the issue before. And this issue started up with Cass working herself to the bone. Barbara and Bruce are talking about it with Barbara unsure why she was acting like this. They spoke a bit ending with Bruce asking her "Who does she remind you of?"
"Well.... You"
Then they talk some more with Bruce saying 'she failed'
Barbara said all the good stuff she did in the mission and how it wasn't her fault
And Bruce just repeated that she failed. Because that's what he'd think if he was in her place. And the two are so alike he knew what she was feeling
Following this up is in issue 34 where Cassandra wants to solve a murder and Bruce says she isn't ready. She follows him around and when the case is over they have a heart to heart showing that she is possibly the only member of the BatFamily to TRULY get Bruce's Mission.
To make sure another child doesn't go through horrors like they had. And how nothing they do will be enough
Of course Babs is annoyed as Cass being unable to read. She is Twilight Sparkle Bookhorse princess of friendship.
"Dear Princess Batman..."
"My body is a Clifford book!"
Lewis, you damn genius.
He needs to write a book, so we can read it.
9:39 I love that in response she tells then her favorite ice cream flavor no giving a crap
“My body is a Clifford book!”
😂😂😂
The talking slowly thing will always remind of See No Evil Hear No Evil: "he-is-deaf, not-stu-pid"
The whole “communication through combat” thing is kinda like the Echani martial arts in Star Wars.
I wish Echani were included in the Star Wars franchise at the moment.
Eamonn Deane Well, nothing says they don’t exist in the new continuity. They have always been reclusive. If Teres Kase is canon, I’d say the Echani styles are too.
Linkara as Batman, “My body is a Clifford book.”
My brain, “CLIFFORD IN SPACE!”
1:36 No, Bruce. Your body is a Vinland Saga volume or a Stephen King story.
3:44 So tell me, Bats: How *is* Jason Todd at this time? =D
16:20 How I feel about Doomsday Clock and Heroes in Crisis running at the same time.
Yeah, I honestly do not know what is currently happening.
Now it's Doomsday Clock, Event Leviathan and Year of the Villain
@@Robintheboywonder4
I am now more confused.
@@Robintheboywonder4 They do know how economics works, right? Law of diminishing marginal returns, saturation, seriously? Then again, we're dealing with people who believe advertising comic books in other comic books is how to get new readers.
I've been a little out of the loop on Doomsday Clock. How long has that story been going on for again?
"Never move on from painful memories" could probably be a bat family slogan. Bruce, Dick etc. Barbra seems the most well adjusted of the bat family, other than Alfred. Which makes her being condescending and angry at Cassandra off putting. Though it is understandable. She's been put in a mentor position somewhat, co mentoring with Batman at that, and probably jealous of Cassandra being able to be batgirl and possibly at her ability to still walk plus some anger at her position. I'm guessing that it boils over from time to time, which is again understandable.
All of this talk of Cassandra makes my miss her again. And rue the fact that we never got a real (beyond a sporadic one shot or two) Damian/Cassie team up story. Like, how has that never happened? It can't just be me who see how obvious that is, right?
What Linkara, dont you remember? Superboy Prime punch reality so hard that Jason Todd came back to life
Also i love Stephanie Brown Spoiler and Cassandra Cane Batgirl team up it was really tons of fun :)
@Sparten 117 indeed :)
Me too
13:44, Hold on.
*MUFFLED SCREAMING from years of pent up rage*
K, keep going.
Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if some company like Google or Amazon knew Alot of people's favorite ice cream.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they knew more than that.
I got into comics almost exactly when you did (Technis Imperative was an early book for me, Nightwing fan, etc.), and Cassandra? She was my first DC fav, this is a book that really helped me transition from 'pick up the odd comic,' to 'regular fan.'
To be fair, someone who has killed could understand Batman's mission. A killer could not.
Yeah, what Bruce doesn't get is that it's BECAUSE she knows death so intimately that she's so determined to save lives.
Good video.
Future Stephanie Brown retrospective? Yes please!
Yes yes yes
Maybe a retrospective on spider ham?
Have a nice trip, Linkara. Take picture. And bring your proton pack and those two ghosts you caught when you move into the rental home.
*CASSANDRA CAINE PART 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALO!!!*
Also, kinda sad you didn't mention that before Cass left to fight Shiva she said that Barbara was like a mother to her
Their relationship is one of the best aspects of Cassandra's solo series
Ironically before Cassandra goes off to Fight her Mother....
Looking forward to Steph´s retrospective~
What they did to her is actually something I know of for once (i like Spoiler and the Tim Drake Robin a lot so... yeah)... and I cant wait to see you rip it apart, it was horrifying what they did.
In my oppinion I prefer Barbara as Oracle and Steph as spoiler with Cass as batgirl~
I really should read some of Cass stories~!
Especially since Dan Didio was involved and still had his hate boner for legacy characters.
Man, I hated how they wrote Batman in this time in other people's books.
And... now...
What's funny is that the most recent Batman comics I've read are the first two crossovers with TMNT. He's actually nicer than usual in those books.
Batman is the character who, through the faults of some writers, is probably one of the best examples of how and why too many people will equate "badass" and "stoic" with "jackass" and "uncaring." More folks need to put effort into showing the better sides of him, the sides that show that he's got compassion for anyone with tragedy and hardship in their lives, that believes in proper justice and potential redemption for almost anybody.
Depends. I actually like how he was written during the start of Rebirth. I’m sorry, but him forming his own Suicide Squad and going on about how he is going to “break his damn back” when going after Bane in I Am Suicide was absolutely hilarious, and I refuse to believe he wasn’t intentionally using that phrasing over and over just to make everyone but Catwoman think he was being hyperbolic. Plus the whole reintroduction to their romance and the Monster Men crossover? Pretty damn good. It helps that it all led into the amazing Batburger scene in I Am Bane.
Cass is my favourite comic book character in history. Love her to bits.
@Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall
Lewis Lovhaug: Comic Nerd, Fourth Wall Breaker, Husband (much wiser than the late Peter Parker), and Advocate for DC heroes who got screwed over.
@Sparten 117 *unveils long-ass scroll*
Jane Doe
That scrolls probably 20 miles long.
@Trevor Anthony Name a DC Superhero. Any DC hero, and chances are they've been screwed over at some point. Wally West, Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown are at the top of the list.
Marvel's the same only with Peter Parker.
Your retrospectives are great man, love learning comic book character history from your vids. Thanks for all you do
He describes comics better than the actual companies, which is something he brought up in part of this retrospective.
Kudos man!
Stephanie Brown retrospective? I can't wait for that in a couple years
Edit: I mean this as genuine it would be dumb to think Linkara wouldn't want to space out DC retrospectives and it's just as much fun seeing videos on books and characters I'm not already a big fan of
Barbara Gordon: 1st Great Batgirl
Cassandra Cain: 2nd BEST Batgirl!
Stephanie Brown: 3rd Awesome Batgirl
I’d say Steph is more compelling than Barbara
@@Dave175 I think Steph is more compelling as Batgirl than Babs was, but Babs as Oracle is more compelling in general
Oh hell yeah, I love her way more as Oracle than Batgirl.
If only DC did too...
Hey hey, Betty Kane existed!
Betty Kane: 1st Unappreciated Bat-Girl
I can’t believe you just skimmed over the father’s day issue in a single sentence, it’s so freaking good.
My first exposure to Cassandra Cain was in Bruce: Wayne Murderer. I hadn’t read the Batman comics in years but the book that kicked off Murderer was only a dime and I was hooked. It was self contained and didn’t have anything in it I wasn’t familiar with so I hadn’t known about anything like the No Man’s Land. When I finally got the trade I was confused at first...there’s a new batgirl? What was no man’s land? I ended up spending most of the year buying trades going back though no mans land and the new Gotham arc. I still have a huge stack of them. Still haven’t read Knightfall though.
Spoiler Warning: Spoiler's in this episode.
LITERALLY UNWATCHABLE!
"My body is a Clifford book!"
That is hilariously adorable 🤣😂
"Your Body is a Clifford Book" is my least favorite John Maher song
3:38 Joker has one of Batman's greatest failures tag along with him, so he can continue to treat her like she's less than human.
Dr. Harleen Quinzel - poster child for battered woman and Stockholm syndrome.
The whole resurrection fist, what my papi called the Fukkatsuken, is actually a very common technique where I come from. Had to go through twelve deer and a howler monkey before I got it down though.
I would love to read Thanos' book on parenting
I'm pretty sure one page will just say" Kill your kid to get the Soul stone"
Most of it will probably be dedicated to making prosthetics for limbs they lose in combat.
so glad you're doing this. I think Cassandra's my all time favorite mainline DC character (excluding vertigo and such).
Just this retrospective alone is enough to convince me that Cassandra Cain is definitely the best Batgirl. Hell, I didn't even know of her existence until this retrospective. And it's because of this channel and this Cassandra series that got me to buy all 4 volumes of No Man's Land, the first 3 volumes of Batgirl's series, and the Scott Snyder Court of Owls trilogy.
It's a shame that we've never got an actual appearance in any of the DC Animated movies or tv shows. This character is a lot like X-23/Laura and Toph/Greatest-Earth-Bender-Who-Ever-Lived, or at least a mix of the two. Born with a disability that she turns into her greatest asset; turned her training to kill to help others; haunted by a dark past that always threats to destroy her new life. Cassandra is exactly the type of heroine that people need in their superhero media, especially for girls.
I personally hate it when society tries to force protagonists on us that try to satisfy a political movement, like a female character they say is supposed to be better than anyone else. This also extends to male characters too. It shouldn't be about being better than anyone else or being perfect at everything, it should be about characters who overcome their past and become better than who they were before. Society believes too much in reputation as opposed to character.
I love this line from a movie: "Reputation is how people think of you. Character is who you are."
And I write my stories with that guideline in mind. A reminder that is what makes a great character, or at least part of it. And Cassandra Cain is that kind of character. I'm happy she is finally getting her first appearance in the Bird of Prey movie (though I am worried about it) and I hope it leads to her getting more appearance in future DC stuff in the future.
x-23 before x-23
The Cluemaster is...a discount Riddler? Okay, I got a lot of crap when I considered the Riddler to not be a serious villain on the Batman Returns review, but regardless of how seriously you take him, why would you try to rip off the Riddler of all villains!?
Fingers crossed Linkara’s next big character analysis is on Ms Marvel. Yes Kamala’s only been around for 5 years, but damn is her status as Marvel’s new flagship character impressive
i would like that too, kamala has become one of my fave marvel characters (alongside miles and gwen)
Over a decade ago, I first heard of Cassandra Cain.
Didn’t think she was a big deal then decided to look her up.
Was pleasantly surprised.
Then heard when things went off the wrong track and got ready to kick Dan Didio’s rear quarters.
ONE DAY ONE DAY!
Anyway, hope the party you’re going to is successful!
I personally love Agent Masters for how outrageously evil he is. It makes it very fun to watch Cass kick his ass
4:53. Oh my god, he used a TM on her!
I’ve heard of the character before and have some peripheral knowledge of her but haven’t really read any of her stories. This retrospective definitely makes me want to change that. I really appreciate that and your other retrospectives too.
*Finishes video
*Sees part 1 in the recommended videos
But I thought THIS was part 1!
Cassandra Cain will always be my favorite Batgirl
Cassandra as batgirl is my favorite hero and what got me to start collecting comics in the first place. it makes me happy to see you review it. maybe others will get to enjoy them like i have. i admits i'm now going back and rereading them because of your review. it got me in the mood to reread them again.
Dang it Linkara, the fact that there will be a part three spoils that you will survive the new audio drama.
The jokers body is a rock and roll song, truly Batman’s greatest enemy
If there's one modern comic series i would LOVE to get your impressions on/watch a video of is Dark Nights Metal. Now i will admit, i'm not a terribly huge fan of comics, not any more at least. But Dark Nights Metal was simply amazing to me, i loved every single issue of it. And the fact that they used The Batman Who Laughs for other stories down the line just goes to show how good the character was...i think, don't quote me on that
Man, this episode has it all. A portmanteau in the title, a look at the background of an awesome character that I know too little about, and a level of commitment to the "condescending Oracle" gag that Perry Cox himself would be proud of.
"We'll know your name and address and favorite ice cream by the end of the day!"
I was looking away from the video for a moment as that line was read, and it got a chuckle out of me because it sounded like so many other jokes said on this show about "secret" organizations and how they love flaunting how secret they are. ...AAAND then I looked back at the screen again, and saw that it was REAL DIALOGUE from the comic itself. ...Seriously? lmao
Officer Down had the long term consequence of it causing Gordon to retire. He'd always been drawn like a man in his late fifties so it seemed like a natural event to happen - but they had to make it an event. Plus it meant that Batman had to forge a relationship with the new commissioner even if the two were directly introduced to each other by Gordon.
For a time it seemed like a good status quo change in the Batman franchise. Sadly DC being DC brought Gordon back in the One Year Later follow up to Infinite Crisis. There didn't really seem to be any good reason and with New 52 & Rebirth it has been rendered pointless. Thank you for joining us on No Moral Theatre.
So Batman can beat Shiva, who in turn can beat Cassandra, who in turn can best Batman. Ah, one those cycles I see.
-Jovahexeon
I highly look forward to your Stephanie Brown retrospective. As she was the character that got me back into comics. Remember going to the library one day and deciding to check out what they had for comics. And one of the comics I found was a trade paperback of the first few volumes of her solo Batgirl series. Which I decided to check out and read and really fell in love with it and her as a character. And decided to find any comic where she played a solid role in and read them. Which is how I was introduced to Cassandra Cain and fell in love with her as a character. But man did they both get screwed over and is why I have such a hard time now buying or trusting most things DC. I mean jesus they have basically tried to erase Brown from existence. Like I remember being all pumped up that she was about to return in the smallville comic series with her showing up at the end of one of the issues. Yet next thing you know they decide to use Barbara instead. Even worse and dumber is that in the digital-first Lil’ Gotham comic. They show kids dressed up in hero costumes and one of them is dressed as Stephanie Brown as Batgirl. Yet shortly after they went back and edited the images to make sure it didn't look like Brown at all. Which they either did so that nobody would remember her as a character and demand that they want to see her back in the universe. Instead they want everyone to just forget she ever existed. Or because they think us readers are so dumb that we might have actually thought the kid dressed up on Halloween might actually be the real Brown and not some kid wearing a costume.
A party at a mansion, you say?
You may want to consider taking a vacuum cleaner with you
I take it you're also excited for Luigi's Mansion.
its true, hitting people brings them back to life, my grandma was dying on her death bed then randy orton came in and power bombed , and she is now the age of 130
Is this heaven? Or did I have a serious stroke?
NotSpider-Man 777 Those options aren’t mutually exclusive you know . . .
Both.
Great retrospective Cassandra Cain is probably my favorite comic book character/ hero outside of batman.
Hey now punching someone back to life has proven to be a highly effective just ask Jason Tood.
My favorite Batgirl
This made me realize how many assassin's there are in the DC Universe. There's all the ones mentioned in this video, Deadshot, Death Stroke, the LEAGUE of assassins, almost certainly more I can't think of. It's a wonder anyone dies of natural causes.
The last comic book characters I can ever recall dying of natural causes are Ma and Pa Kent in the Silver Age (and New 52). So for all we know, NOBODY in the Marvel or DC universes dies like that anymore.
9:45
Agent: “We can take your whole life-your family, friends... and turn them against you!”
Batman: Well then, good thing I came along.
Agent: Oh fuck!
I'm guessing the "Officer Down" tie in exists to help sell Cassandra's character to people who weren't following her solo series at the time; I read "Officer Down" because it interrupted "Nightwing", and was so impressed by Cassandra's tie-in that I was compelled to check out the solo series. I only ever got around to reading the first issue (this was only about a year ago by the way, so its not like I've been slacking for over a decade), but this retrospective may finally push me to read her solo series properly.
As for the "Officer Down" event itself, gosh, that's a weird one. For those that don't know, Batman insists on spending the entire story standing around in Gordon's hospital ward whilst everyone else is left to actually look for the culprit. At one point, Alfred goes the hospital ward to try to convince Bruce that he should be out there helping the others, but he just stands there in silence, not even looking at Alfred. Alfred eventually gets so frustrated that he vows to stop working for the Waynes and leave, he's even shown doing so, a point that I don't remember being resolved at the end of the event.
Exactly. It was just WEIRD. And I remember it being heavily hyped and promoted... and it wasn't even like some lengthy storyline, just a few parts and only the single tie-in.
I love Cass and her time as Batgirl
I completely forgot that Cassandra ever existed as Batgirl, but as I kept watching this vid I really want to check out her series, thanks Lewis.
Also, her costume is awesome.
I always loved her costume because it really looked a lot more intimidating then most other designs i have seen, the eye patches covering it, the ears esentially being more like thorns, the more slender mody and hunching poses, and the stitched mouth piece makes her seem much more like a demon, batman is a lirking figure while she looks like an actual monster
go to the end
The mask is probably what sells it for me, it’s just so cool looking
This is a lifetimes worth of combat knowledge.
Turns out it was just a dvd copy of Enter the Dragon.
This was a nice character to get to know better. I had only seen her costume and tought she was just som edgy character. But knowing this I think she is a intresting character. I think her story goes well as a ending with Shiva. I don´t dare imagine what DC did to her later.
Batman had been going down a regression of paranoia and narcisissm for close to a decade prior to his treatment of Cassandra in these stories. While it wasn't explicitly told when this happened, it's likely three events Death in the Family, Knightfall ;and No MAn's LAnd all contributed to his personality change. Each of these stories affected the Dark Knight. His personal loss of Jason Todd haunted him. This would keep him from being too attached to his partners, thinking of them more as soldiers in his war on crime. Knightfall broke his spirit as well as his body, and it would take a long time to reconcile that, beaten down in his own home and humiliated in front of the whole city. Then some bad decisions were made like giving an unstable assassin the mantle of the Batman and all the pressures and weight attached to it, which drove that man insane. There were trust issues that came out of that. Then the loss of his city, and the fact that Bruce Wayne couldn't save it with his power and influence must have been egoshattering, and Batman wasn't enough to quell the carnage. Tower of Babel, the Doug Monech/Kelley Jones Batman stories, as well as the Batman stories that came out of the wake of No Man's Land all portray Batman as a egotistical, driven, shell of a man with a superiority complex. This was a good 5 years before Infinite Crisis.
Whatever you do Linkara, don't die at your mansion party. I for one am not sure what would happen to reality if you died in a canon outside of your own!
19:40 Hmmm, a team of sidekicks fighting against a crazy person that claims to be a descendent of a historical figure? Surprised you didn’t point the parallel out.
I had teh same thing with the Blue Beetle retrospective, but it's kind of surreal looking back to your Top 10 Worst Heroes Becoming Villains and finally seeing the full story from that short segment all these years later.
There are people who've only been watching for like, a year. That's crazy.
While it's jumping the gun a bit I think about how she was ruined and note how at around the same time the same thing was done to Rose Wilson. Characters created with the idea that just because your parent is bad guy doesn't mean you are. So they just go and make them bad. At least with Cassandra you could argue she'd only been treated decently for the last year or two. Rose was raised by her mother and didn't really know her father until her teens. It wasn't a conventional upbringing, but it was loving and not abusive.
Which is why I felt repeating that pretty much where my liking of Geoff Johns as a writer began to dwindle. W/ Cass, Rose, Connor, and the rest of the Titans.
I understand not liking Babs being condescending to Cass about learning to read, but there's some stuff to substantiate, at least, her frustration (and no, not just because she's a librarian). Babs mentioned to Nightwing in one of the first six issues that it was hard to become close or attached to Cassandra because she didn't speak. While she shouldn't be made to feel bad for her non-verbal skills, it does create a barrier, which creates a form of struggle for the characters to work through (and I'll take that over Tynion's version any day). While creating a profile for her as the new Batgirl, Barbara notes that her young charge seems to be highly intelligent, despite knowing less than a dozen words. One could see Oracle's attitude as that of a teacher who sees the academic potential in a student, but they'd rather do anything else, because Cass doesn't feel she *needs* to learn. She wants more for Cassandra, and is frustrated that she's settling for only being an awesome crime-fighter, and that helps create a familial bond between the two. This is a much better way of building character relationships, as opposed to the "Panel 1. Characters Meet. Panel 2. Characters are now best friends because it's quicker and easier" -style of the Eternal series.
Yeah, I agree. Babs is written as a good, intelligent, but flawed person with very human frustrations and mistakes. It's why I love their relationship so much.
It's violence that brings people back to life! And if you're holding an uzi, you will not die!
Woo Stephanie Brown retrospective!
Grew up loving reading Tim drake and spoiler in comics like superboy and wonder girl those were the comics I read
I know you're making a point but I actually sort of understand Barbara's frustration. If Cassandra communicates through motion then the fact that Barbara has such limited mobility there's her own issues with that getting in the way and the fact that their communication could only go so far. It's kind of telling that she says "like normal people" since it emphasizes that she misses her sense of normalcy as batgirl.
I firts know cassie cain in your countdown review, you give us a little bit of her background and that got me interested in her, and her solo batgirl series make her one of my favorite characters of all time
"A party at a mansion" and you were reviewing a Batman comic. Hmmmmmm, Wayne Manor? 😉😂 Couldn't resist. But in all seriousness, hopefully you have a fun and safe trip. 😊
I'm sure that party is going to be super chill and nothing bad will happen at all.
they need to stop stretching out stories in current comics its really hurting the industry, heres an example of how bad its getting, the new young justice series just barely finished its first arc in six issues the story could have been told in 3, each issue is 4 dollars meaning im spending 24 dollars while waiting 6 months for a complete story, i could also just wait for a trade except buying single issues better supports the series that could be canceled before the trade comes out,
another bad result of stretching out a story is reading an issue where nothing happens except a maybe a cliffhanger
Brian Michael Bendis and Geoff Johns are really bad in that regard.
Finally able to watch a retrospective as it’s coming out
Still my favorite (and first comic) would never read comics if not for Cass.
Your Retrospectives are tons of fun especially with Cassandra Cane batgirl yay :)
This is what I've explained to people that I love about Cassandra. Her utter respect for life, her devotion to protecting it. What they did to her just boils my blood to this day.
Something sadly realistic about cassandra cains story is how not being taught language early on can effect you.
If you arent taught early enough any language at all, youll likely never recover and become a fully functional member of society.
Theres a reason why small children can be taught many languages at once and retain them in a couple years vs most people as adults have to work at one language at a time and take several years to become close to fluent.
A childs mind is very malleable and easily taught. Easily taking in new ideas.
However, if a child doesnt learn ANY form of real communication....they probably never will.
They might have had the potential, but will likely grow up to be like a nonverbal autistic child. They wont really speak or want to be spoken to at all. Assuming they even understand.
**If you are easily triggered (and i mean Actual triggering, not the twitter version) STOP READING NOW. What im about to write gets very dark.**
Learned this after reading a sad article within the past few years. Forgive me if i forget some things or mix up some details from another story but as far as i remember this was what happened. There was a family who had something like 15 kids ranging from 18 years old to only a few months.from what i remember someone called CPS about seeing a malnourished child and police were sent to investigate. They were all malnourished, kept in mostly darkness, and often in pet cages like animals. **ESPECIALLY DONT READ THIS IF EASILY TRIGGERED** Then the bodies started turning up. Everything from what appeared to be stillborns to children 3 or 4 years old. There was a quite a few of them. Having been poorly buried on the property. **major trigger warning ends here**
Just to give a perspective on the sheer level of abuse. The eldest child was the most stable (having gone to school for a few years before the parents went off the rocker) the youngest children it was believed wouldnt even remember the trauma their parents put them through/it could be handled well enough...but the middle 7 children basically were a hopeless case. Because they werent taught such basic things as communication. They were sent off to special care places and some to mental hospitals and are likely to spend their whole lives in those places because they were denied such basic skills and were so broken by those monsters that "raised" them.
This would be the reality cassandra cain would face.
So no. Shed never turn evil and learn how to write in navajo.
My God. That's horrifying.
I only remember bits and pieces about how Cassandra and Stephanie's time turned out, but Linkara's reaction here fills me with a great sense of curiosity for both. One we'll find out soon about, but based on what he said...hoo boy, DC must have treated Stephanie pretty dirty.
Cassandra was the anti-Kamala Khan. When Kamala became popular, Marvel rolled with it. Made her an Avenger. Put her in cartoons and video games. She’s getting to join the MCU in her own Disney+ show. When Cass became popular, DC did everything they could to make people forget her. It’s a bizarre choice from a business perspective.
Oh, so Officer Down is basically I Am The Night.
hell yes to a stephanie brown retrospective
A Voice in the Dark premiers on the 17th? I didn't even think you knew when my birthday was, and here you are giving me a present! :D
I can't wait for the Stephanie Brown retrospective to commence in a year or two's time!