I know the long episodes have to be harder on everyone involved in producing them, but I think i speak for everyone when I say WE LOVE THEM!! Hope the long episodes continue as we go forward, the chapters just get better and better as we go through this book and the others
Two chapters per episode please. I would watch/listen to a 3-4 hr episode, easy! Perfect to help me get through the work day!!! Please, don’t be afraid to do very, very long episodes. We nerds love it! ❤
I have my own theory to explain the very expensive tickets: Ludo: thanks for your help Arthur, I’ve got some cheap-seats comp tickets i can give you. Arthur: oh that sounds great I’ll bring all my kids and *cough* HARRY POTTER *cough*. Fudge (appearing out of nowhere): Did you say Harry Potter?! Ludo, make sure they’re in the top box. I have to show him off to the Bulgarian Ministry- I mean keep him safe! Don’t you know Sirius Black is still on the loose? No Voldemort supporter is getting anywhere near Harry in the top box! Arthur: Voldemort supporter? You mean Death Eater, Minister? Fudge: Shhh we haven’t introduced that term yet.
Oh he 100% name-dropped HARRY POTTER at every opportunity. To the point where the obliviators went to Mr. Roberts' house, who subsequently pulled a "I think I can move some people around" when Arthur called to book.
Don't think anything I've ever laughed harder at anything you've done more than your impression of Dumbledore delivering Felix Felicis to everyone that had a rough year the year before. Absolutely brilliant.
Arthur doing all the Muggle things at the campsite is like when your dad, who knows how to say three things in Spanish, gets to ask the waiter for "una mas cerveza" at the Mexican restaurant
I think it’s possible that rather than a romantic relationship with Perkins, Mrs. Figg could just be his sister. “Mrs.” would indicate that she has been married, and her maiden name could be Perkins.
@@TheDanishGuyReviewsnot even in HP universe, in the 90s it was de-facto standard all over the world, real or fantastic. Of course she could have remarried or something, but the sibling theory is not bad at all.
They should do Cursed Child and just tear into it. It is technically canon. I remember reading it years ago and it wasn't a bad story,it just wasn't Harry Potter
19:00 I saw someone suggest in the comments section several chapters ago that because Ludo Bagman was Head of the Department of Magical Games and Sports, he could have been given several World Cup tickets that he could pass out to whoever he liked _(apparently a practise in real-world sport)._ That's how Arthur scored such great tent and seating locations; they were spots reserved for _Whoever Ludo Bagman Invites._
Yeah they REALLY get hung up on this & fail to consider magic in the while scenario. I Love their content, but guys, You can't necessarily compare muffle events to magical events where You can magically expand things 😂
Ah yes the Triwizard playset exclusive! And mini Fleur doll comes with interchangeable outfits 😂 (it’s such a cute thing to think about, I wish this existed haha)
Ah yes the Triwizard playset exclusive! And mini Fleur doll comes with interchangeable outfits 😂 (it’s such a cute thing to think about, I wish this existed haha)
Arthur Weasley: NO FLYING CARPETS -- they're muggle artifacts. Also, Arthur Weasley: I have a flying car my kids were able to steal -- TWICE -- without my notice and fly through muggle cities.
@@MelanieNLee I mean they grew up in America. I’m Hispanic but know next to nothing about the history/culture I come from. Not proud of that but it just is how it is if your parents don’t emphasize it.
don't you think the small model of the horntail dragon harry pulls out of the bag at the first task would be a great gift for Hagrid for Christmas that year.
An idea: Fred and George are the ones who took the felix. That's not only how they get the great spot and tickets, but how they know what bet to place.
To add to the Weasel, stoat, otter theme, a catchpole is something you can use to capture small animals like weasels etc, it could also be a play on polecat, which is in the same family of animals as a stoat, it seems like Rowling was all in with the animal theme for this section lol
I honestly love this podcast almost more than I love the original channel. You guys bring up a lot of points that I never thought of upon reading the books, but you also bring up a lot of points that I also came to the conclusion of when I read this book, including some confusion over some of the points so I’m glad I’m not the only person that thinks like I do. I’m so glad that you guys started this and I’m also so glad that you guys still have so much further to go in the series. This was honestly the best idea you guys ever had And I love hearing the organic conversations that take place on this podcast. I love hearing all of the realizations that you guys have live upon reading it like this. Sorry for the long comment, but I just really really love this podcast and I just wanna thank you guys fordoing this and keeping it up. You guys are great. Love you guys.
59:30 And as usual, Carlin brothers keep bashing Oliver Wood for not being a good Quidditch player, because he makes it "only into a practice squad" as a kid fresh out of school. Like come on brothers, let's go through this once more: the British Quidditch league does pull players "from the international market", so the teams are not only relying on Hogwarts graduates. A 17-year-old is very young athlete, no matter how good he was at school, so it seems reasonable to place him in a practice squad, and wait for a couple years, so he could mature. Also (and I might be wrong, so please, correct me if I'm mistaken) the "practice squad" is something that practices with the actual team, and if a player is proven to be worthy, might overtake someones spot in the opening roster. So Oliver making it into the practice squad of any team in the major league right after school is actually an astonishing feat.
It's like the UK British football teams. a lot of them have international players in and only the actual England team has English only players in. Also like teams trade players a lot as well. There is a thing in British football called "transfer deadlines" where players and managers leave, arrive, trade and all that kind of stuff. It's a thing.
It’s more of the fact that there is such a small pool of players available to be drafted each year. Since Hogwarts is the only school in Great Britain ( I think). It means AT MAX there are 28 players coming out of hogwarts, and that is if every single one of the players was a seventh year. 28 max players to be drafted, for every team in Britain. Even if kids from other schools get drafted, you would think Wood would make better than a backup squad for a team in his country.
@@ferdinandcarangelo9279 You would be correct. It's the only British Wizarding School. There aren't a ton of them worldwide. Mainland Europe has 2 (Beaubatons and Durmstrang) and the entire US has only one (Ilvermorny). I think there's only one on the entire African continent.
@@CaptinPaulxthey don’t understand international sports at all, it’s pretty obvious. They’re thinking of him as an American football practice squad player. He also plays a position, along with seeker, that will not be in the starting team if even one other player is better. (I don’t mean for this to come off harsh… great show minus the regular slander of my guy, Wood 😂)
Here in the UK we say the minute past the hour until it is half past the hour then we refer to time to be to the hour. For example 5:07am would be 7 past 5. If the time was 7:50 we would say it would be 10 to 8. Or if the time was 6:47 we would say it was 13 minutes to 7 or round it up and say it was 10 to 7. Us Brits don't make a lot of sense when telling time. We usually just have morning, afternoon and night 😂
This totally makes sense to me, I just always hated when I was younger, before clocks were on everything, and I would ask an adult for the time and they’d say something like “10 till”. And I’d just be like “10 till WHAT??? What is the hour?!” Lol. I don’t hear that a lot anymore, people just state the time if asked, hour and minute. (not in UK, I’m in southern U.S.)
I don't know why people make such a big deal about Moody's eye being able to see through the cloak. The Deathly Hallows are not perfect objects. The Elder Wand isn't invincible (as evidenced by its many many changes of ownership), the resurrection stone can't actually resurrect anyone, and the cloak is not completely impenetrable. That's the beauty of the writting. Myth and legend made those objects seem incredible, and in a sense they are, but they were still made by real people, powerful no doubt, but people, not a legendary Death personification. It's myth vs reality, and the cloak not being completely impenetrable fits perfectly alongside the flaws of the other two objects and grounds them back to what's reality as opposed to their their legend.
I'm not convinced Wizards in general wear what you Americans would call pants. Remember that pants in the UK means underwear, and in Snape's memory when he is being held upside down by James, his "pants" i.e. his underwear, is revealed, so he is not wearing any "trousers" underneath his school robes. Time and time again I'm baffled that the American publisher insisted on an American edition with changes made for the American market, but then the changes are stuff like Sorcerer's Stone instead of Philosopher's Stone and murder instead of curse (in the first chapter of this book) or a walnut instead of a satsuma stuck up someones nose in the St. Mungos, but no "translation" for actual British words and expressions that seems to create a lot of confusion.
I think the difference made between flying carpets and flying brooms is juste cultural. In western wizard culture flying carpets are Muggle artifacts and in eastern wizard culture it is the brooms that are Muggle artifacts. It is like the legal difference between alcohol and weed.
26:27 100 pence equals 1 pound. Our current currency is 1p coins, 2p coins, 5p coins, 10p coins, 50p coins, £1 coins, £2 coins, £5 notes, £10 notes, £20 notes, and £50 notes. Each note is a different colour, and the coins vary in size, shape, and colour, making it each to see how much they add up to without checking the tiny numbers. Although, £1 coins changed from a gold to gold/silver design similar to £2 coins in the 2010s, which could make you mistake one for the other at a glance.
I would love them to react to a video on British currency and decimalisation. Plus them handling our coins and notes. It's a pretty fascinating topic imo. The fact we used to not operate in 100s amazes me.
The “clover” is a shamrock which is the national symbol for Ireland which is always 3 leaved because it was the symbol for the trinity used by st Patrick brought Christianity to Ireland
With Mr. Roberts and the campsite booking, remember this is arranged by the ministry to try and make things less suspicious for the muggles involved. Sites were probably arranged by the ministry, and then the ministry spread out the bookings with the muggles to make them look more typical. Also, pinstiped trousers are suit trousers. Pinstipes are a common formal pattern for suits. They're far too conservative for camping, but the exact opposite of loud and garish.
The whole wizards failing to understand muggle money comes from the very real switchover from old British money to the modern. Google pre-decimalization UK money and prepare to be thoroughly confused by the multitude of different coins and bills that all added up to weird, odd amounts compared to each other. I've actually seen old news reports from the early 70's where English people were confused in a shop because they were so used to the old funny money that they could not figure out tens and fives in their head.
1:20:37 fun fact, there are over 7000 languages, due to countries like Papua New Guinea and Nigeria having a lot of different cultures in them (700+ and 500+ languages respectively)
The “bagman” riff was ridonculous. So, “bagman” is a term for a person who takes bribes (because the bribe money is in a bag - think cartoon bags with dollar signs on them). So Ludo Bagman was accurately named. 😊
I'll go a step further. And Ludo is a board game that requires little to no skill and is very luck dependant. And of course Ludo has terrible luck when organising the betting on the Quidditch world cup.
I just realized that the Quidditch World Cup should _absolutely_ be disguised as a Metal festival (like Wacken Open Air) which all interested muggles just happened to not get a ticket anymore and nobody bothers to turn up without one. There should be a scene in the later books where two muggles talk about and wonder why they never heard of somebody who actually went there despite knowing many people from the scene.
I look forward to this podcast every Sunday! It is something I can just put on and watch/listen to while doing dishes, laundry, or crocheting. My question for you guys, and you may have already answered it on Super Carlin, but what if it was Snape and NOT the Carrows who had caught Harry in the Ravenclaw common room? Would he have still pretended to apprehend Harry or been like, "Thank God, Harry. C'mon, I need to show you my memories! We have to kill the snake!"
Always thought Luna and Ron would have been perfect. Her laughter at his joke and Ron talking about how much he loved her comentating. It seemed like it could have been nice foreshadowing.
All the talk about Dumbledore getting Snape to make Felix Felicis got me thinking...surely Dumbledore would've thought to get some for himself for the Horcrux Hunt. He'd have the problem sorted within the week.
@@RancorSnp Based on how Harry feels using it, it's not about his confidence, it's about having an almost divine inspiration towards where best to go and what to do in the moment. Dumbledore's goal of finding Horcruxes could've led him to just find the cave in the first place he looked, to realise that Gringotts is a good place to store things, to stumble back on the Room of Requirement
Hm but considering Dumbledore's relationship with personal power it makes sense that he doesn't use it. FF is a strong intoxicating drug that can be highly addictive, I imagine. Slughorn loves to flirt with danger so he doesn't say it outright but he does warn his students off its risk. Dumbledore knows himself to be susceptible to power so he doesn't put himself into situations where it is for him to grab. Together with the Elderwand which has its own influence on the wizard, he probably fears that he would become reckless and dangerous.
It could be the case that Arthur Weasley accidentally got some of his matches wet and didn’t think that it would matter because why would it? he’s never seen matches being used before
The Idea that Vernon would try is the most hilarious thing ever. Like, say that the Grangers got invited to see Hermione do something and try to get wizard clothes.
As a blind person, I love the idea of bills being different links would be extremely helpful. When I do have cash, I fold each bill differently, but I don’t always have a chance to do so in the moment and get a little confused later.
Also blind samsies but I usually don’t really carry cash due to credit/ debit cards being easier but yah whenever I get money as gifts I always need some way to fold them so that concept would e helpful
Didn't realize this was an issue in other countries. I have been to many European countries and they always have notes of different sizes. I'm curious to know which countries don't do this and why not?
British notes also have braille on them, but I don't think this was the case back in the early 2000s when the book was written. The different denomination notes having different sizes has been the case for a long time
Every non-american will tell you, guys, how ridiculously their country/culture is depicted in Hollywood movies. Even if they really try, silly blunders still happen. So the issues with wizards trying to pass for muggles seem quite realistic to me.
The Weasleys, if nothing else, ARE a prominent wizard family. Hell, Draco Malfoy knows who Ron is before they even meet. If you come from an old magic family (which the Crouches are), there is no shot that Barty Crouch wouldn't remember Percy's name, or at least his surname. Saying "Weatherby" has to be 100% intentional.
Love this Podcast. Just so you guys know you and MovieFlame are the reason why I got back into Harry Potter. Also Fun fact in Kansas City, Missouri there is a lake called Weatherby Lake
I like long review its interesting to hear details about some questions. I hope for longer ones. These are valid points. Its fascinating how Moody's eye works. This is a big topic.
I think the reason for the seven minutes past five portkey is just like a train timetable. My assumption is that portkeys are arriving more frequently than every 5 minutes, so the numbers can't be round.
We're currently having a snowstorm where I live and snow has completely covered up a bench we have on our yard. Nothing of the bench is visible but the pile of snow covering it still somewhat resembles a bench. You could say the bench has become invisible but still left clues to it's presence. I think this is how Dumbledore due to skill, and Moody/BCJ thanks to the eye are capable of seeing Harry. They don't actually see him, they see the presence of someone invisible.
The reason ‘drinks can’ works slightly better is because ‘drink’ is a verb, so ‘drink can’ would be an instruction to drink the can, which technically doesn’t make sense.
As a fan of inscription,hearing the word Stoat makes me think of robots. If you guys still do SuperCarlin gaming you should 100% play inscription Edit: No,in the UK we just say time like that and it's really not that confusing. Americans especially don't get to complain when they use a month/day/year date system. I mean,that's ridiculous!
I thought of that too!! Awesome game. Edit: the end of your comment is really rude. It's ridiculous to you because you didn't grow up in that culture. Maybe consider being a bit more empathetic and understanding.
British English drinks can definitely is a soda can. Water bottle would be the same in UK as USA. Biscuits and cookies are two different things in the UK a cookie has a more cake like consistency and is soft and crumbley. A British biscuit is more crunchy and brakes with a snap.
GoF Movie: This is exactly what a formal Indian dress looks like Braveheart: This is exactly what the Scots would wear in the 1300s Any western before the 00s: This is exactly what american indian people wear, and this is how they talk Somehow, I have no trouble thinking that wizards would make laughable attempts trying to imitate the costumes of a culture they either hate, ignore, or patronize so much.
In the NHL, they will sign people as young as 18 to play in the league. Technically, Connor Bedard was 17 at his draft, and a month later, when he turned 18, he signed his entry-level contract with the Chicago Blackhawks. Depends on the player, though. Not everyone who is taken 1st overall signs right away
On the muggle clothes, my headcannon is that wizards attempt to "make" their own clothes by transfiguring their own robes into what they *think* muggles wear. So they go into the muggle world very sparingly, and it happens to be raining that day, so they think muggle attire ALWAYS consists of rain coats and goulashes. They don't shop for them, so they don't see the vast array of options, they just use their own experiences when transfiguring their own garments
guys have you noticed that the tent is larger on the inside then outside like a TARDIS and we have a former doctor who pretending to be moody the whole movie a nice inside joke all we need is a police box parked on the campgrounds.
1:24:00 This bit about the Bulgarians needing 12 extra seats screams to me that Bagman won all 12 seats in some gambling game, which would explain all the strange details of how he got the tickets, why they were given to the Weasleys last minute, and how such a well-planned event could be short so many seats in the VIP section this close to the game.
1:26:58 i'm pretty sure that the joke about Bagman misunderstanding the Bulgarians isn't that they were speaking Bulgarian - but English with a heavy accent
Yeah, if they were clearly speaking another language there would be no misunderstanding, just no understanding at all. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think "Twelve seats" could sound similar to "tweezers" if you put on a heavy foreign accent and pretended you only had minimal skills in the language.
This discussion about how wizards don't know how to dress like muggles reminds me of how bad we are at dressing in historical styles and how easily we will mix up centeuries worth of details into a single halloween outfit. There are a lot of people with better understanding of historical dress and how the styles evolved but a lot of people will lump like 5 centuries into the same generic historic vibe.
As far as the portkey newspaper, I figure they could have done something like put a rock on it to keep from blowing away or maybe some sort of weight charm. As to Portkeying right to the campsite, that would actually be more dangerous since Mr Jones, the groundskeeper is more likely to see them. By keeping all the port key destinations to the same central location, it's easier for them to hide it from the muggles running the site.
I mean, I guess I always assumed that Arthur’s “luck” was a combination of: Sirius using his fortune, Dumbledore and the Ministry working together to make sure Harry was safe in a public place… and Fudge going along with all of it, because he liked the idea of being associated with the famous Harry Potter, and a little making up for last year to Dumbledore; to keep him in better relations… As far as the money goes: asking harry the question he did, might be a way to ask harry to confirm his conversion math; Wizard money doesn’t use a base-10 conversion, and so conversion can be difficult: like 143 in base-10, becomes 123 in base-12(staircase)…
First, loved the Dumbledore guilt forgiveness gift of luck skit 😂😂😂 Also remember that Dumbledore had BOTH the Elder wand AND the Invisibility Cloak at the time that he may have made Moody's magic eye... Being the exceptional wizard he was, it is very plausible that Dumbledore figured out a way to breach the Cloaks magic using the Elder wand to compensate for the "magic power level" required.
Here's a topic I'd like to hear you guys address: Common thought is that Umbridge was never a Death Eater or working directly with Voldemort, but was instead a racist Ministry toady using the law to advance her own discriminatory ideals... But how then does she know the moment Moody dies and how does she get his eye? Do you think she was simply told that some of the "undesirables" were located and Moody died in an effort to apprehend him?
I have an idea: By this time, Death Eaters had infiltrated the Ministry of Magic and would take it over in a few days. A Death Eater at the battle found the eye and gave it to Umbridge, or gave it to someone else who gave it to Umbridge. Soon the Order of the Phoenix would be considered enemies of the Ministry, and Dolores may have treasured the eye as a souvenir of a victory over the Order. This doesn't mean that Umbridge was a Death Eater herself or ever even met Voldemort, who kept himself relatively hidden and used Pius Thickness as a puppet.
nooo, Moody definitely sees Harry because while trapped in the trick step Harry mouths to Moody "its mine" about the map and Moody sees it and grabs the map before Snape can
I've always assumed Dumbledore uses the same revelio spell that Hermione does at Grimuald place to find out if anyone else is in the room and where they are. Then, knowing Harry has the cloak, he puts two and two together. Don't forget that Dumbledore has an exceptional mind and always thinks ahead
As far as Dean goes, the plot point that Rowling took out was Dean's Discovery that his father actually was a wizard, but went on the run and was later murdered by Voldemort. So in a way, Dean himself becomes his father, just more successful in that he survives. (Much like many others in their generation if considering the theory that Harry is James, Nevill is Peter, etc…) While it was cut to make more room for Neville's subplot about being the alternate chosen one, I've always figured it was probably still true of the character, just not shown to us the reader, and perhaps Dean himself didn't discover it.
The fact Crouch is getting Percy’s last name wrong, while talking to Mr Weasley, who he knows quite well, and knows is Percy’s father feels, makes it feel very deliberate.
Given how bad wizards are at keeping literally the most important secret of their existence, you could imply Harry has seen memory charm side effects before because it's just constantly happening in the background. Having to obliviate a muggle is just a casual event of any adult wizard's day because that's just how badly they suck at not telling people they're wizards
I know the long episodes have to be harder on everyone involved in producing them, but I think i speak for everyone when I say WE LOVE THEM!!
Hope the long episodes continue as we go forward, the chapters just get better and better as we go through this book and the others
J and Ben: Waffle on for 5 minutes about "seven past five".
Me: This is fine.
Two chapters per episode please. I would watch/listen to a 3-4 hr episode, easy! Perfect to help me get through the work day!!! Please, don’t be afraid to do very, very long episodes. We nerds love it! ❤
I have my own theory to explain the very expensive tickets:
Ludo: thanks for your help Arthur, I’ve got some cheap-seats comp tickets i can give you.
Arthur: oh that sounds great I’ll bring all my kids and *cough* HARRY POTTER *cough*.
Fudge (appearing out of nowhere): Did you say Harry Potter?! Ludo, make sure they’re in the top box. I have to show him off to the Bulgarian Ministry- I mean keep him safe! Don’t you know Sirius Black is still on the loose? No Voldemort supporter is getting anywhere near Harry in the top box!
Arthur: Voldemort supporter? You mean Death Eater, Minister?
Fudge: Shhh we haven’t introduced that term yet.
Oh he 100% name-dropped HARRY POTTER at every opportunity. To the point where the obliviators went to Mr. Roberts' house, who subsequently pulled a "I think I can move some people around" when Arthur called to book.
Yep I think you're right!
I prefer this theory to Ludo being generous!
I would expect that the camp site was also tied to the ticket, or at least the lot where the camp site is could be reserved for VIP ticket holders
Perfection. 🤣
Don't think anything I've ever laughed harder at anything you've done more than your impression of Dumbledore delivering Felix Felicis to everyone that had a rough year the year before. Absolutely brilliant.
That part had me in stitches 😂
Arthur doing all the Muggle things at the campsite is like when your dad, who knows how to say three things in Spanish, gets to ask the waiter for "una mas cerveza" at the Mexican restaurant
I think it’s possible that rather than a romantic relationship with Perkins, Mrs. Figg could just be his sister. “Mrs.” would indicate that she has been married, and her maiden name could be Perkins.
Lending credence to this idea is the fact that practically every woman in Harry Potter takes their husband's name upon marriage.
@@TheDanishGuyReviewsnot even in HP universe, in the 90s it was de-facto standard all over the world, real or fantastic.
Of course she could have remarried or something, but the sibling theory is not bad at all.
Plz don't ever stop giving me my weekly dose of TTGD. Finish the final book? Start it again!
Valar Rereadous... Wait wrong book and channel.
Just rewatch the past ones. Besides it will take at least 2 years before we are on deathly hallows itself
I agree. They should read them again and do even deeper dives further exploring the deep dives.
That's not a good idea. They should go over another book series instead.
They should do Cursed Child and just tear into it. It is technically canon. I remember reading it years ago and it wasn't a bad story,it just wasn't Harry Potter
19:00 I saw someone suggest in the comments section several chapters ago that because Ludo Bagman was Head of the Department of Magical Games and Sports, he could have been given several World Cup tickets that he could pass out to whoever he liked _(apparently a practise in real-world sport)._ That's how Arthur scored such great tent and seating locations; they were spots reserved for _Whoever Ludo Bagman Invites._
Ben later considers this at 40:46
Yeah they REALLY get hung up on this & fail to consider magic in the while scenario. I Love their content, but guys, You can't necessarily compare muffle events to magical events where You can magically expand things 😂
if tiny Krum can ride the tiny Firebolt could you make him take on the tiny model dragon Harry gets later?
Ah yes the Triwizard playset exclusive! And mini Fleur doll comes with interchangeable outfits 😂 (it’s such a cute thing to think about, I wish this existed haha)
Ah yes the Triwizard playset exclusive! And mini Fleur doll comes with interchangeable outfits 😂 (it’s such a cute thing to think about, I wish this existed haha)
Goblins own some muggle businesses. I think they are the ones selling wizards muggle clothes and misinforming them on how to wear them for a laugh.
New headcanon
Arthur Weasley: NO FLYING CARPETS -- they're muggle artifacts.
Also, Arthur Weasley: I have a flying car my kids were able to steal -- TWICE -- without my notice and fly through muggle cities.
To be human is to be a hypocrite
Arthur: The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma.
Fine day Sunday best day of the week- because the Carlin brother post through the griffin door!!!!! Woot woot!
Lol, I would agree, but because of time difference I get it on Monday morning!
Mr Weasley saying "I've seen them at it" makes me think he's a voyeur watching muggles from the bushes 😂
It is a 3 leaved clover because it represents Irelands Shamrock which is always 3 leaved, lol.
Oh, I see now that you beat me to it 😁
iirc it's what St. Patrick used to "explain" the holy trinity.
Yeah. I thought Carlin was an Irish name (thinking of George Carlin), and that you guys would recognize a shamrock.
@@MelanieNLee I mean they grew up in America. I’m Hispanic but know next to nothing about the history/culture I come from. Not proud of that but it just is how it is if your parents don’t emphasize it.
don't you think the small model of the horntail dragon harry pulls out of the bag at the first task would be a great gift for Hagrid for Christmas that year.
An idea: Fred and George are the ones who took the felix. That's not only how they get the great spot and tickets, but how they know what bet to place.
To add to the Weasel, stoat, otter theme, a catchpole is something you can use to capture small animals like weasels etc, it could also be a play on polecat, which is in the same family of animals as a stoat, it seems like Rowling was all in with the animal theme for this section lol
Omg there’s a character named catchpole in the series im reading now
It's a leprechaun hat, and the 3 leaf clover is very Irish, known as the shamrock. 4 leaf clovers are symbols of luck, nothing Irish..
I honestly love this podcast almost more than I love the original channel. You guys bring up a lot of points that I never thought of upon reading the books, but you also bring up a lot of points that I also came to the conclusion of when I read this book, including some confusion over some of the points so I’m glad I’m not the only person that thinks like I do. I’m so glad that you guys started this and I’m also so glad that you guys still have so much further to go in the series. This was honestly the best idea you guys ever had And I love hearing the organic conversations that take place on this podcast. I love hearing all of the realizations that you guys have live upon reading it like this. Sorry for the long comment, but I just really really love this podcast and I just wanna thank you guys fordoing this and keeping it up. You guys are great. Love you guys.
59:30 And as usual, Carlin brothers keep bashing Oliver Wood for not being a good Quidditch player, because he makes it "only into a practice squad" as a kid fresh out of school. Like come on brothers, let's go through this once more: the British Quidditch league does pull players "from the international market", so the teams are not only relying on Hogwarts graduates. A 17-year-old is very young athlete, no matter how good he was at school, so it seems reasonable to place him in a practice squad, and wait for a couple years, so he could mature. Also (and I might be wrong, so please, correct me if I'm mistaken) the "practice squad" is something that practices with the actual team, and if a player is proven to be worthy, might overtake someones spot in the opening roster. So Oliver making it into the practice squad of any team in the major league right after school is actually an astonishing feat.
It's like the UK British football teams. a lot of them have international players in and only the actual England team has English only players in. Also like teams trade players a lot as well. There is a thing in British football called "transfer deadlines" where players and managers leave, arrive, trade and all that kind of stuff. It's a thing.
It’s more of the fact that there is such a small pool of players available to be drafted each year. Since Hogwarts is the only school in Great Britain ( I think). It means AT MAX there are 28 players coming out of hogwarts, and that is if every single one of the players was a seventh year. 28 max players to be drafted, for every team in Britain. Even if kids from other schools get drafted, you would think Wood would make better than a backup squad for a team in his country.
And on top of all that it's not even the "practice squad." He's on the reserve team. So he's the backup goalie.
@@ferdinandcarangelo9279 You would be correct. It's the only British Wizarding School. There aren't a ton of them worldwide. Mainland Europe has 2 (Beaubatons and Durmstrang) and the entire US has only one (Ilvermorny). I think there's only one on the entire African continent.
@@CaptinPaulxthey don’t understand international sports at all, it’s pretty obvious. They’re thinking of him as an American football practice squad player. He also plays a position, along with seeker, that will not be in the starting team if even one other player is better. (I don’t mean for this to come off harsh… great show minus the regular slander of my guy, Wood 😂)
Here in the UK we say the minute past the hour until it is half past the hour then we refer to time to be to the hour. For example 5:07am would be 7 past 5. If the time was 7:50 we would say it would be 10 to 8. Or if the time was 6:47 we would say it was 13 minutes to 7 or round it up and say it was 10 to 7. Us Brits don't make a lot of sense when telling time. We usually just have morning, afternoon and night 😂
Aha, I knew it was a British thing. That is so very interesting.
same in Sweden, might be a European thing
This totally makes sense to me, I just always hated when I was younger, before clocks were on everything, and I would ask an adult for the time and they’d say something like “10 till”. And I’d just be like “10 till WHAT??? What is the hour?!” Lol. I don’t hear that a lot anymore, people just state the time if asked, hour and minute. (not in UK, I’m in southern U.S.)
Please dont slander us. We arent european@@elisabethpedersen2201
Was gonna come to the comments to explain this
Na na na na na na na na BAGMAN!
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I don't know why people make such a big deal about Moody's eye being able to see through the cloak. The Deathly Hallows are not perfect objects. The Elder Wand isn't invincible (as evidenced by its many many changes of ownership), the resurrection stone can't actually resurrect anyone, and the cloak is not completely impenetrable.
That's the beauty of the writting. Myth and legend made those objects seem incredible, and in a sense they are, but they were still made by real people, powerful no doubt, but people, not a legendary Death personification. It's myth vs reality, and the cloak not being completely impenetrable fits perfectly alongside the flaws of the other two objects and grounds them back to what's reality as opposed to their their legend.
Very good point!
I am hooting with laughter over here at your Felix felicis segment 🤣🤣🤣
To be fair Mr Weasley wasn't doing magic, the tent IS magical.
I'm not convinced Wizards in general wear what you Americans would call pants. Remember that pants in the UK means underwear, and in Snape's memory when he is being held upside down by James, his "pants" i.e. his underwear, is revealed, so he is not wearing any "trousers" underneath his school robes. Time and time again I'm baffled that the American publisher insisted on an American edition with changes made for the American market, but then the changes are stuff like Sorcerer's Stone instead of Philosopher's Stone and murder instead of curse (in the first chapter of this book) or a walnut instead of a satsuma stuck up someones nose in the St. Mungos, but no "translation" for actual British words and expressions that seems to create a lot of confusion.
So trousers = pants in American verbiage and pants = underwear in British verbiage. Didn't take a whole paragraph to sort that out. 😂
FYI in britian a Bag Man is a traveling sales man and in the US a Bag Man is a money runner for the Mob.
Both just are here to take your money 😂
I think the difference made between flying carpets and flying brooms is juste cultural. In western wizard culture flying carpets are Muggle artifacts and in eastern wizard culture it is the brooms that are Muggle artifacts. It is like the legal difference between alcohol and weed.
Hermione's patronus is an otter and Ron's is a Jack Russell, which chase otters
Ron’s is a Jack Russell Terrier not a Beagle but same deal
@jaspriest1997 I stand corrected
@@jaspriest1997 fixed it
Um yea we know 😂
These make my weekend. I’m currently sitting in the UK with a rotten cold, wrapped up with a hot drink and listening to this video.
26:27 100 pence equals 1 pound. Our current currency is 1p coins, 2p coins, 5p coins, 10p coins, 50p coins, £1 coins, £2 coins, £5 notes, £10 notes, £20 notes, and £50 notes.
Each note is a different colour, and the coins vary in size, shape, and colour, making it each to see how much they add up to without checking the tiny numbers.
Although, £1 coins changed from a gold to gold/silver design similar to £2 coins in the 2010s, which could make you mistake one for the other at a glance.
I would love them to react to a video on British currency and decimalisation. Plus them handling our coins and notes.
It's a pretty fascinating topic imo. The fact we used to not operate in 100s amazes me.
@robertbrookes2000 That _Horrible Histories_ sketch about Tudor currency is exactly how wizarding money feels to me.
The “clover” is a shamrock which is the national symbol for Ireland which is always 3 leaved because it was the symbol for the trinity used by st Patrick brought Christianity to Ireland
It's always been implied that Muggle Studies is not the best, nor a well attended, class at Hogwarts.
With Mr. Roberts and the campsite booking, remember this is arranged by the ministry to try and make things less suspicious for the muggles involved. Sites were probably arranged by the ministry, and then the ministry spread out the bookings with the muggles to make them look more typical.
Also, pinstiped trousers are suit trousers. Pinstipes are a common formal pattern for suits. They're far too conservative for camping, but the exact opposite of loud and garish.
Yep, this is very frustrating sometimes. Given their profession, it seems that scb vocablary is sorely limited.
Probably one of my favourite chapters, just so fun
The whole wizards failing to understand muggle money comes from the very real switchover from old British money to the modern. Google pre-decimalization UK money and prepare to be thoroughly confused by the multitude of different coins and bills that all added up to weird, odd amounts compared to each other. I've actually seen old news reports from the early 70's where English people were confused in a shop because they were so used to the old funny money that they could not figure out tens and fives in their head.
1:20:37 fun fact, there are over 7000 languages, due to countries like Papua New Guinea and Nigeria having a lot of different cultures in them (700+ and 500+ languages respectively)
The “bagman” riff was ridonculous.
So, “bagman” is a term for a person who takes bribes (because the bribe money is in a bag - think cartoon bags with dollar signs on them). So Ludo Bagman was accurately named. 😊
I'll go a step further.
And Ludo is a board game that requires little to no skill and is very luck dependant.
And of course Ludo has terrible luck when organising the betting on the Quidditch world cup.
I just realized that the Quidditch World Cup should _absolutely_ be disguised as a Metal festival (like Wacken Open Air) which all interested muggles just happened to not get a ticket anymore and nobody bothers to turn up without one. There should be a scene in the later books where two muggles talk about and wonder why they never heard of somebody who actually went there despite knowing many people from the scene.
I look forward to this podcast every Sunday! It is something I can just put on and watch/listen to while doing dishes, laundry, or crocheting. My question for you guys, and you may have already answered it on Super Carlin, but what if it was Snape and NOT the Carrows who had caught Harry in the Ravenclaw common room? Would he have still pretended to apprehend Harry or been like, "Thank God, Harry. C'mon, I need to show you my memories! We have to kill the snake!"
Always thought Luna and Ron would have been perfect. Her laughter at his joke and Ron talking about how much he loved her comentating. It seemed like it could have been nice foreshadowing.
52:47 Ron should definitely have had ‘Nam flashbacks about the slugs haha
The pronunciation of “Bagman and Crouch” is proof the Stephen Fry narrated audiobooks will always be supreme😂
All the talk about Dumbledore getting Snape to make Felix Felicis got me thinking...surely Dumbledore would've thought to get some for himself for the Horcrux Hunt. He'd have the problem sorted within the week.
Assuming that Felix Felicis does anything other than make you very confident you can pull it off
@@RancorSnp Based on how Harry feels using it, it's not about his confidence, it's about having an almost divine inspiration towards where best to go and what to do in the moment. Dumbledore's goal of finding Horcruxes could've led him to just find the cave in the first place he looked, to realise that Gringotts is a good place to store things, to stumble back on the Room of Requirement
Hm but considering Dumbledore's relationship with personal power it makes sense that he doesn't use it. FF is a strong intoxicating drug that can be highly addictive, I imagine. Slughorn loves to flirt with danger so he doesn't say it outright but he does warn his students off its risk. Dumbledore knows himself to be susceptible to power so he doesn't put himself into situations where it is for him to grab. Together with the Elderwand which has its own influence on the wizard, he probably fears that he would become reckless and dangerous.
It could be the case that Arthur Weasley accidentally got some of his matches wet and didn’t think that it would matter because why would it? he’s never seen matches being used before
The Idea that Vernon would try is the most hilarious thing ever.
Like, say that the Grangers got invited to see Hermione do something and try to get wizard clothes.
As a blind person, I love the idea of bills being different links would be extremely helpful. When I do have cash, I fold each bill differently, but I don’t always have a chance to do so in the moment and get a little confused later.
Also blind samsies but I usually don’t really carry cash due to credit/ debit cards being easier but yah whenever I get money as gifts I always need some way to fold them so that concept would e helpful
Didn't realize this was an issue in other countries. I have been to many European countries and they always have notes of different sizes. I'm curious to know which countries don't do this and why not?
British notes also have braille on them, but I don't think this was the case back in the early 2000s when the book was written. The different denomination notes having different sizes has been the case for a long time
So great to catch the newest episode just as I finished rewatching books 1 to 3 on TTGD. Great content guys!
“Cass - tell - o - broo - shoo". This is how we say it in Brazilian Portuguese.
Im sure there are multiple camp grounds. Mr Roberts is just one of them
Every non-american will tell you, guys, how ridiculously their country/culture is depicted in Hollywood movies. Even if they really try, silly blunders still happen.
So the issues with wizards trying to pass for muggles seem quite realistic to me.
Perfect timing guys! Just headed out to bike to work in the snow. Perfect Harry Potter weather
I had to check to make sure, but it was Ben who thought of the mini Krum riding the model on the Firebolt during the Christmas quiz.
The Weasleys, if nothing else, ARE a prominent wizard family. Hell, Draco Malfoy knows who Ron is before they even meet. If you come from an old magic family (which the Crouches are), there is no shot that Barty Crouch wouldn't remember Percy's name, or at least his surname. Saying "Weatherby" has to be 100% intentional.
i love long episodes, it lasts me all week with rewatching for bed time every night
Love this Podcast. Just so you guys know you and MovieFlame are the reason why I got back into Harry Potter. Also Fun fact in Kansas City, Missouri there is a lake called Weatherby Lake
I like long review its interesting to hear details about some questions. I hope for longer ones. These are valid points. Its fascinating how Moody's eye works. This is a big topic.
I think the reason for the seven minutes past five portkey is just like a train timetable. My assumption is that portkeys are arriving more frequently than every 5 minutes, so the numbers can't be round.
We're currently having a snowstorm where I live and snow has completely covered up a bench we have on our yard. Nothing of the bench is visible but the pile of snow covering it still somewhat resembles a bench. You could say the bench has become invisible but still left clues to it's presence. I think this is how Dumbledore due to skill, and Moody/BCJ thanks to the eye are capable of seeing Harry. They don't actually see him, they see the presence of someone invisible.
The reason ‘drinks can’ works slightly better is because ‘drink’ is a verb, so ‘drink can’ would be an instruction to drink the can, which technically doesn’t make sense.
When you two were talking about what Jude Law was doing right now, it reminded me of the South Park song “What would Brian Boitano do?”
I just finished this chapter, totally different listening experience when its that fresh in your head
As a fan of inscription,hearing the word Stoat makes me think of robots. If you guys still do SuperCarlin gaming you should 100% play inscription
Edit: No,in the UK we just say time like that and it's really not that confusing. Americans especially don't get to complain when they use a month/day/year date system. I mean,that's ridiculous!
I thought of that too!! Awesome game. Edit: the end of your comment is really rude. It's ridiculous to you because you didn't grow up in that culture. Maybe consider being a bit more empathetic and understanding.
@UnfazedPhoenix No,no,I maintain my belief that it is a ridiculous way to write dates
For the idea that Arthur has Felix felesus (can't spell). What if Fred and George got it, considering they made that very specific bet.
British English drinks can definitely is a soda can. Water bottle would be the same in UK as USA. Biscuits and cookies are two different things in the UK a cookie has a more cake like consistency and is soft and crumbley. A British biscuit is more crunchy and brakes with a snap.
Perfect timing
GoF Movie: This is exactly what a formal Indian dress looks like
Braveheart: This is exactly what the Scots would wear in the 1300s
Any western before the 00s: This is exactly what american indian people wear, and this is how they talk
Somehow, I have no trouble thinking that wizards would make laughable attempts trying to imitate the costumes of a culture they either hate, ignore, or patronize so much.
In the NHL, they will sign people as young as 18 to play in the league. Technically, Connor Bedard was 17 at his draft, and a month later, when he turned 18, he signed his entry-level contract with the Chicago Blackhawks. Depends on the player, though. Not everyone who is taken 1st overall signs right away
On the muggle clothes, my headcannon is that wizards attempt to "make" their own clothes by transfiguring their own robes into what they *think* muggles wear. So they go into the muggle world very sparingly, and it happens to be raining that day, so they think muggle attire ALWAYS consists of rain coats and goulashes. They don't shop for them, so they don't see the vast array of options, they just use their own experiences when transfiguring their own garments
I love this podcast it’s my weekly pick me up, along with the Pop.
The idea of Dumbledore spending his summers giving out bottles of Felix as apologies omg lol
30:54 kilt and poncho, relatively local considering how diverse everyone showing up is. Like, how is that the crazy thing
In England we do say 7 past 5 or how ever minutes it has been after the hour
Ben’s “Better out than in, that’s what I always say” Hagrid quote was so witty and timed so perfectly lol that made my entire day 😂
guys have you noticed that the tent is larger on the inside then outside like a TARDIS and we have a former doctor who pretending to be moody the whole movie a nice inside joke all we need is a police box parked on the campgrounds.
THANKS FOR THIS! Love your content guys ❤❤❤❤
1:24:00 This bit about the Bulgarians needing 12 extra seats screams to me that Bagman won all 12 seats in some gambling game, which would explain all the strange details of how he got the tickets, why they were given to the Weasleys last minute, and how such a well-planned event could be short so many seats in the VIP section this close to the game.
1:26:58
i'm pretty sure that the joke about Bagman misunderstanding the Bulgarians isn't that they were speaking Bulgarian - but English with a heavy accent
Yeah, if they were clearly speaking another language there would be no misunderstanding, just no understanding at all. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think "Twelve seats" could sound similar to "tweezers" if you put on a heavy foreign accent and pretended you only had minimal skills in the language.
This discussion about how wizards don't know how to dress like muggles reminds me of how bad we are at dressing in historical styles and how easily we will mix up centeuries worth of details into a single halloween outfit. There are a lot of people with better understanding of historical dress and how the styles evolved but a lot of people will lump like 5 centuries into the same generic historic vibe.
I was laughing throughout the Dumbledore Felix apology package bit lmao funniest thing for me so far
YES!!! Just keep repeating the books forever:)
As far as the portkey newspaper, I figure they could have done something like put a rock on it to keep from blowing away or maybe some sort of weight charm.
As to Portkeying right to the campsite, that would actually be more dangerous since Mr Jones, the groundskeeper is more likely to see them. By keeping all the port key destinations to the same central location, it's easier for them to hide it from the muggles running the site.
I mean, I guess I always assumed that Arthur’s “luck” was a combination of: Sirius using his fortune, Dumbledore and the Ministry working together to make sure Harry was safe in a public place… and Fudge going along with all of it, because he liked the idea of being associated with the famous Harry Potter, and a little making up for last year to Dumbledore; to keep him in better relations…
As far as the money goes: asking harry the question he did, might be a way to ask harry to confirm his conversion math; Wizard money doesn’t use a base-10 conversion, and so conversion can be difficult: like 143 in base-10, becomes 123 in base-12(staircase)…
First, loved the Dumbledore guilt forgiveness gift of luck skit 😂😂😂
Also remember that Dumbledore had BOTH the Elder wand AND the Invisibility Cloak at the time that he may have made Moody's magic eye... Being the exceptional wizard he was, it is very plausible that Dumbledore figured out a way to breach the Cloaks magic using the Elder wand to compensate for the "magic power level" required.
You know who is actually quite good at dressing like a muggle? The malfoys... A bit old fashioned, but not that far off...
Here's a topic I'd like to hear you guys address: Common thought is that Umbridge was never a Death Eater or working directly with Voldemort, but was instead a racist Ministry toady using the law to advance her own discriminatory ideals... But how then does she know the moment Moody dies and how does she get his eye? Do you think she was simply told that some of the "undesirables" were located and Moody died in an effort to apprehend him?
I have an idea: By this time, Death Eaters had infiltrated the Ministry of Magic and would take it over in a few days. A Death Eater at the battle found the eye and gave it to Umbridge, or gave it to someone else who gave it to Umbridge. Soon the Order of the Phoenix would be considered enemies of the Ministry, and Dolores may have treasured the eye as a souvenir of a victory over the Order. This doesn't mean that Umbridge was a Death Eater herself or ever even met Voldemort, who kept himself relatively hidden and used Pius Thickness as a puppet.
Um. Yes. We already know Umbridge wasn't a death eater. She was tracking those deemed "undesirables".
Man I wish people did podcasts like this breaking down history books chapter by chapter
I may just have to fill that niche but I’m lazy😭🤣
Snape just has the potion ready 😂
Shamrock always has 3 leaves, while clovers can have 4. They're not the same plant and it's the Shamrock which is the Irish symbol.
So would a hat for the Chudley Quidditch team be head cannon?
nooo, Moody definitely sees Harry because while trapped in the trick step Harry mouths to Moody "its mine" about the map and Moody sees it and grabs the map before Snape can
I think your Felix commentary may have been my favorite SCB moment ever.
I've always assumed Dumbledore uses the same revelio spell that Hermione does at Grimuald place to find out if anyone else is in the room and where they are. Then, knowing Harry has the cloak, he puts two and two together. Don't forget that Dumbledore has an exceptional mind and always thinks ahead
That’s because a flying carpet wouldn’t NEED FOOTRESTS!
Drinks can is the correct written English for a can of (or for a) drink
I actually have a hat collection. Several new years hats, several beanies for practical use, some top hats, two Fezzes, a beret, and a fila gobi.
I love these weekly weekend doses of Harry Potter with y'all! Thank you!
Ben sounded so depressed in the intro. J is all excited and then Ben says, "and i'm benjamin carlin..." like he'd rather be anywhere else than here
As far as Dean goes, the plot point that Rowling took out was Dean's Discovery that his father actually was a wizard, but went on the run and was later murdered by Voldemort. So in a way, Dean himself becomes his father, just more successful in that he survives. (Much like many others in their generation if considering the theory that Harry is James, Nevill is Peter, etc…)
While it was cut to make more room for Neville's subplot about being the alternate chosen one, I've always figured it was probably still true of the character, just not shown to us the reader, and perhaps Dean himself didn't discover it.
The fact Crouch is getting Percy’s last name wrong, while talking to Mr Weasley, who he knows quite well, and knows is Percy’s father feels, makes it feel very deliberate.
Given how bad wizards are at keeping literally the most important secret of their existence, you could imply Harry has seen memory charm side effects before because it's just constantly happening in the background. Having to obliviate a muggle is just a casual event of any adult wizard's day because that's just how badly they suck at not telling people they're wizards