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I ALWAYS watch oversimplified THEN these reactions for the added commentary, because it's... Nice.
Same. It's the best way to watch these history videos. Watch the video and then watch the historians comment on the video.
Me too
Same
Same
Same high key
Its nice to see a commentator on oversimplified who isnt just trying to find mistakes but his added his own thoughts and facts onto it..
and thats how it should be
That's why VTH is the best History reaction
@@roflc0re yes exactly I love his reactions because of that. OS makes hilarious videos on history that's just supposed to make you interested in learning more, not actually 1000% accurate to the textbook
VTH might point out something here and there, but he's not out to nitpick.
He basically does what a lot of us fans would do. He likes it, he watches it, he throws in his own two cents about it
Like who? I'd like to know some names 😊
I thought we'd have to wait until tomorrow for Part 2. Thank you so much!
appreciate your continued support, Paolo!
50 EUROS GODDAMN
Andrew Tate's son
wow, this is my first time seeing this
I had always wondered what the thanks did that comment looks so cool and special.
As a graduate student studying Roman history, words cannot describe how happy I am to see Oversimplified’s videos occupying the #1 and #2 top trending spot on TH-cam.
Can we all just appreciate how awesome that is? Historians unite 😂
Absolutely. Great stuff.
@@VloggingThroughHistoryI think the Dragon instead of a snake, even a Python, could had Very well been a Nilo Crocodille of a Giant Size or perhaps a Saltwater Croc that was big even for their kind, which might as well be a Dragon whitout wings and that don't breath fire, especially back then. What do you think?
What does one do with a degree in roman history?
@@anathardayaldar If there was a Roman History degree I would have it. Unfortunately, it doesn’t exist. What I have is a history degree.
@@VloggingThroughHistory Off topic, pt 3 of Eleanor of Aquitaine is now on TH-cam.
Interestingly one of the reasons why Regulus went back to get tortured was exactly so that he would be remembered. Having failed to seize Carthage in his period as consul, ending his own career with "glorious death" was basically the next best thing.
Quote from the Wiki:
"The legend that the Carthaginians returned him to Rome to negotiate for a prisoner exchange or peace terms, successfully opposed any such exchange or terms, and consequently returned to Carthage to be tortured to death, is "almost certainly invented, perhaps to palliate his son's torturing of two Punic prisoners in revenge for his death".[1][12] No evidence of his story appears in the best source on the period, Polybius.[13][14] The first evidence of the tale emerges with fragments of Sempronius Tuditanus's history in 129 BC; in this story, after he purposefully sabotages the negotiations, the Carthaginians have him starved to death.[15] "
@@kennet7837Uh okay? I didn’t entirely understand that
@@irenaveksler1935 he's basically saying that the story is fake, which is not very surprising to be honest, who would willingly return to a place to be tortured to death? And who would let their prisoners escape?
@@darklex5150 Dignitas was that important, I could see Marcus going back to Carthage
Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source
Roman society was too bullheaded to die. Their adaptability was legendary too but that is truly why they were as great as they were.
At least until after the Crisis of the Third Century
The decline of these martial traditions could also be said to have correlated with the decline of Roman Empire as well.
The very thing that built Rome up was taken away when military service started to be outsourced to barbarian mercenaries and the emperors started punishing generals for being competant and successful because they were afraid of being overthrown.
@@a.wenger3964 They got too comfortable since the reason for their expansion (Rome being surrounded by enemies) didn’t really apply anymore by the time of the Empire. They expanded so largely that only the outer edges of the Empire remained military battle ready. Compared to the comfort of the inner Empire.
@@a.wenger3964 It's not any one or even a dozen things that caused the decline. I mean, everything that builds up declines eventually. It's almost a natural law. Add in how much the world changed in their existence along with their very adaptability caused them to change themselves from within. That and conquering and assimilating culture after culture and incorporating them. Centuries of barbarians leeching off of (through raiding, trading etc) "civilization" lead to them being partially civilized and in desire of what Romans had. Add in an enemy pushing those barbarians into the Empire and etc. etc. etc. It's crazy how many things actually contributed to their downfall. Just like will happen with America.
So, ironically Rome's go-to class in DND would be the barbarian?
I think Regulus realized he wasn't getting any statues after losing to the Carthaginians, so he went for broke and martyred himself - and got a bunch of statues out of that instead.
I guess statues are important to some people...
@@fighterck6241 if you know about roman society then you'd understand why
@@fighterck6241Bruh
@@onejediboi Oh I know...just being tongue-in-cheek.
"A lot of people don't succeed, not because they don't have the ability, but because they give up too quickly" - Vlogging Through History 2022
I can never understand why people complain about people reacting to oversimplified especially when the people reacting are people like vlogging through history or Mr Terry who actually add more information and even educate people on the videos they react to. But whatever some people just had to find something to complain about I guess
Reacting can be pretty egregious if the reactor takes all the ad money.
Like, people are gonna watch you react to a video instead of watching the video and now you’ve essentially stolen some of the success the creator of the original video earned.
@@Ubersupersloth except all of the money goes to oversimplified
@@coolguyinc.1555 Yeah. Which is why this one is cool.
Because darkviper likes to take on these dumb causes for attention and this time he decided to go after reactors even though some of them (like vlogging through history and mr terry) add way more value to youtube than some guy speedrunning the same game over and over again
@@Ubersupersloth idk pretty much everybody i know that watches reactions has already watched the original.
Regarding war elephants. There are a couple of issues. firstly, they were an expensive aspect of the army. The now extinct African Forest Elephant was quite plentiful enough but you also needed specially trained mahouts who had bonded with the creatures. That is one thing, the more important thing is the fact that elephants were very much a one shot weapon. They could terrify horses and had terrified Roman infantry when used by Pyrrhus some twenty years earlier. The problem was that they got easily spooked themselves and when they panicked, they were as liable to crush your battle line as the enemy. This is why Scipio Africanus modified the classic Roman chessboard battle formation at Zama, to give teh war elephants clear passages to "eescape" through as his light infantry harried and killed them. By starting them behind the battle line you lessen the chance of them pacicking and destroying your own army.
Fun fact about Appius Claudius Pulcher, the incompetent chicken drowning admiral. About a year after he had cost maybe 50,000 Roman lives, his sister (Appia Claudia Pulchra) was prosecuted and found guilty of treason when she was overhead loudly complaining about how the plebs of Rome were blocking her palanquin's easy progression through the city. "I do hope my brother loses another battle so we can clear the streets of these people" was her tactless comment
Das crazy but I don't remember askin
@@h3ctor272 I don't remember your parents asking you to be born, but here we are.
The African Forest Elephant isn't extinct. Surely you're thinking of another species.
@@svenrio8521 this took a dark turn
You’re a hero for this
I think the fact that Xanthipus wasn’t Carthaginian was a major factor in his success, mainly because he wasn’t beholden to politics in Carthage, so he was free to use their valuable military assets as he saw fit, thus being able to fully bring forward the war elephants and Numidian cavalry
Apparently, the dude also had a few sons that served under Hannibal during the 2nd Punic War.
So... that's neat.
The parallels between the 1st and 2nd Punic War and the World Wars are pretty fascinating.
The crippling payments weren’t so crippling for Carthage. Actually they paid faster than the Romans expected.
The thing is that Carthage saw the writing on the wall. Romans were gonna expand and they would use any excuse to do so. The were aggressive go getters and when they were at war, they were relentless. The Corsica and the Sardinia event was a clear proof that the Roman word was worthless against a rival that can be damaged.
Wasn't there a 3rd Punic War? 😬
@@Mobius14 Yes and Carthage was annihilated in it.
@@Darkmaiki That is precisely why the Romans upped the figures. The consuls got scared when the Carthaginians basically said "Fine do you want cash or cheque?"
@@Mobius14 there was a 3rd Punic War, but it was an absolute curbstomb. The first and second wars are the interesting ones
According to Polybius and Livy, Hamilcar made Hannibal swear an oath, when Hannibal was 9 years old, over an altar to Baal. Hannibal promised that he would never be a friend to Rome. Polybius also says that Hannibal used this to gain the trust of Antiochus III, the Seleucid king, saying that he had always been and would always be an enemy to Rome, since he swore an oath.
And the fact that in the Ancient times swearing an Oath was a big deal as breaking an oath was seen insulting the god(s) whom you swore the Oath to, that's probably why Regulus also return to be killed as he had sworn an Oath and breaking an Oath would have seen much worse then dying in effort to uphold an Oath.
So fun fact the term punitive actually comes from this war and the terms given to Carthage.
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Right after i watched the oversimplified video i searched and read some articles about the dragon, and it stated that the most likely truth was that it was an especially large python(which would be quite plausible) whose size and identity was greatly exaturated by roman historians as a sort of roman propaganda to inflate the glory and prestige of the soldiers, which is right in line with the things you stated in the video about considering sources
Edit: I see now that the article you linked in the description is actually the same one i have read
To be fair if i saw 30 foot big python for first time i would probably think it's a dragon too.
The difference of perspective between Rome and its enemies is truly fascinating. Romans saw themselves as givers of civilization and culture, and frequently gave medallions with the encryption "Bringers of Peace" to their soilders at the end of campaigns. But when a Gaul chief was brought as a prisoners to Rome, his testimony told a different story. "They rape, they slay, they conquer, this they falsely name empire, and when they make a wasteland, they call it peace". This is most evident when we see sources not made by the romans, like the Greeks or the Egyptians. Then we learn that, mostly, people viewed them as barbarians.
That's pretty common actually. One side will glorify their own attacks and conquers, the other side will demonize it.
I think a lot of sides used to do the same thing.
Gauls and even the germanic tribes.
Mongols, Persians etc
Romans were just more organized and usually fought with all Or nothing attitude.
But then, in the Roman mindset, "peace" meant the state when there are no enemies left to defy you.
Keep in mind that the writer who stated that quote, Tacitus, was seeking to criticize Rome. I’m not really sure that Gaul ever even existed, though, I suppose it’s hard to know
Yeah they call all other nations barbarians and uncivilized but do the same thing. Hypocrites like just like every super power ever.
As if I didn't have enough clogging up my life, now I'm wanting to go out and buy a bunch of books on the Punic Wars. Sidenote: I think that it's admirable that you leave the ads on so that the video can generate revenue for OverSimplified.
The first Extra History series was actually on the Second Punic War, so if you wanted to get an understanding of it before Oversimplified, it's a great series.
You can also watch the Historia Civilis videos about Trebia River, Lake Trasimene, Cannae and Zama
It was an Oversimplified reaction of your where I first found your channel. And now I'm a subscriber and a Patreon supporter
The first Punic war is always glossed over because of the whole Hannibal and elephants and stuff that happened during the second one. It's nice to see some info on it and that Oversimplified gave it its own series instead of making it a footnote in a story about the second like you usually see
As we always say on this channel “ history doesn’t repeat itself but it often does rhyme“. And the huge war guilt dept certainly has Versailles echoes
Just to be clear, I love your video's.
But I don't think it's that simple. i don't believe you would add ads to your video's If all the revenue would go to another channel
I don’t have a choice. Oversimplified gets to decide that and they choose to monetize all reactions of their content.
Wait... WAIT A SECOND! Did Chris just talk about Mr. Terry? Honestly if there was a DCU/MCU crossover and a VTH/Mr. Terry collab online, I would watch the latter any day of the week. Please do a video together. That would make my year.
@@nathantibbitts6415 I missed that time
That little PSA stuff at the beginning made me confident that subscribing to this channel is totally and definitely worth it.
19:40 Speaking of honor in ancient times, I remember learning that honor mattered to Romans so much that during the Pyrrhic war, a Roman named Fabricius visited Pyrrhus for negotiation and Pyrrhus's physician offered him to poison the king for money, and Fabricius outright refused the offer and informed Pyrrhus, claiming that he would not dishonor Rome by defeating her enemy through treachery
If you're interested in delving more into the second punic war I highly recommend Historymarche's series Hannibal: Rome's greatest enemy. The amount of detail they go into is honestly unbelievable. They've been working on it for about 3 years right now and still haven't finished.
I think there you'll also come to find out that probably a huge reason for why Rome achieved so much is because a Roman never realizes when he's been defeated.
I agree. Their series on Hannibal is amazing.
This was gonna be my recommendation to him as well. Great series.
I think the Dragon instead of a snake, even a Python, could had Very well been a Nilo Crocodille of a Giant Size or perhaps a Saltwater Croc that was big even for their kind, which might as well be a Dragon whitout wings and that don't breath fire, especially back then. What do you think?
My question is does that mean that there was a Carthiginian crocodile unit? Or did they just fight some random crocodiles?
@@joelsasmadAs far as I know Carthage never used any sort of crocodiles in their military, likely due to the fact that crocodiles would be much more difficult and dangerous to tame than elephants. As far as I’ve been able to find the only use of crocodiles by any ancient government was as a method of execution when someone was punished with damnatio ad bestias, a type of capital punishment carried out by a wild animal.
33:00 The determination reminds me of a quote by Ulysses S. Grant:
"In every battle there comes a time when both sides consider themselves beaten, then he who continues the attack wins."
I'm so happy to see that our community has grown to over 300,000 people. Simply incredible. It is so very well deserved. Personally, I love watching the original content then coming back to VTH for the commentary. Often I find that I missed the little details that Chris points out.
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The video just keeps telling me there’s no stream. Anyone know what’s wrong?
I’m subbed to oversimplified and always watch their vid first
That being said, not only does he get the £££ but your reactions have way more historic substance than most other channels.
Pleasure to watch keep it up! :)
This is pure speculation, I have no evidence for what I'm about to say at all. Regarding the 'dragon' the Roman's supposedly encountered, would there be a chance that they ran into something like a really big crocodile and exaggerated the story? I'm not sure if crocodiles lived in this area of North Africa at the time, but I'm sure that would be a reasonable description if you'd never seen or heard of one.
Please react to Spanish Civil War by Feature History (attemp 4)
As soon as I saw your video pop up I clicked right away! I right off the bat knew you arnt the type of person to gain money from the views. I've seen your videos i wanna say since one of your 1st review videos. You've helped me learn so much and have helped me in many ways by helping me keep my mind occupied thru some hard moments. Must respect to you and keep doing what your doing! You've moved up so much and I can't wait to see what the future keeps showing for your channel! Many best wishes!
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@@joem4939 just started working for me
Refreshing worked for me
Jokes on you, I’ve seen both VTH reactions and the original Vids multiple times. Really soothing, especially VTH’s voice/commentary
As a Canadian with Tunisian parents, It's cool to learn the history of Carthage, as growing up, I had the Carthaginian version of the events, it was more flattering lol. Thank you for your commentary, I watched both original videos and then yours because I needed your input as well.
How do the people Tunisia view Carthage.
@@calebcorrea7556 we view it just like how the italians view Rome
@@hamzaboughraira4455 Thank you I have always wondered.
Does the video not work for anyone else too?
I had to switch to my laptop. Not working on mobile for some reason
Aw, sucks that ppl are still saying you're stealing content. This content from you has to be some of the most legal reactionary content on the site. Most other content you see is just ppl eating while letting the video play, adding nothing to the content, and abusing fair use laws. You, on the other hand, talk a lot and add so much to the original video that you wouldn't have known otherwise. Ignore the haters
Guys if the video does not work here are 2 solutions
Watch the video on a browser or on desktop
Be patient and come back in 20 minutes
This.
@@VloggingThroughHistory Thank you. The video works now, i'll check it out!
36:03 Going with the WWII analogy further, John Maynard Keynes, the famed economist who was the British Treasury's representative at the Versailles negotiations in 1919, called the Treaty of Versailles, especially the reparations placed on Germany after WWI, a "Carthaginian peace."
Is anyone else having trouble watching the video, for me it says “no stream, tap to retry”
To be fair, you should have half a year to study before his next video, minimum. Assuming that would be his next video. *Coughs* Vietnam *coughs*.
let's go, was just wondering about the reaction to the 2nd part !
thanks VTH, hope you are doing well 👍
Dude, you need to dive into Hannibal historymarche has amazing series of him and witness if not one of the greatest commanders ever so many people over the year's after try to duplicate his tactics.
You mentioned how the weather is what sank the Spanish Armada, and that is not entirely true. The Spanish would have escaped if it had not been for the North Atlantic Drift. Their plan was to sail far enough west to get past Ireland safely, and they thought they had sailed far enough when they turned south. But because the North Atlantic Drift slowing their progress down, they ended up turning into Ireland.
2:34 I think most hogh school teachers wouls be offendes by the communal bathroom scene.
I had a cool 7th grade world history teacher, who taught from ancient Greece to Elizabeth II, and when expressed disappointment she hesitate to use the word 'crap', so she would not like the 'edgy jokes'.
Hey, Chris. I did not know that all ad revenue goes to OverSimplified. I give you massive props for being cool with that. There is a video by someone who addressed wheather reactions affect the original content creators, and the effects tend to occur during the first week and exposure tends to work for obscure/non-established channels. A reactor at least letting the ad revenue get claimed sounds like a great idea.
Imho, keep talking, since talking far less does not give viewers much incentive to watch the original content. In other words, keep transforming the content for insight (fair use in the context of copyright).
It's not his decision. maybe he would do it voluntarily but oversimplified just takes the money.
@@florianschneider3982 Oh, reactions OverSimplified just get automatic "Content ID" copyrightm claims? I thought Chris was giving ad rev to OverSimplified voluntarily.
@@jstevinik3261 0:33
@@jstevinik3261 in a way its a yes and no situation. Oversimplified is copy right claiming them but he doesn't mind which is good
@@aquaices6699 Ah. Okay. Stuff gets copyright claimed and Chris is fine with it. I assume this is robotic content ID where creators put their content in this detection system.
The dragon could have been a Komodo dragon. Though I would think Mediterraneans would not have know about them. So another likely option would be a crocodile from Africa. Carthage was a trading empire so I would think they would have access to markets in north/central Africa. From my understanding Rome may have use The Nile crocodiles in the Colosseum for let's say "Are You Not Entertained". As for fire breathing I believe in that.
If anyone is interested in learning more about Rome I highly recommend watching the roman playlist on the YT channel Historia Civilis, or on the YT channel Biographics.
I really appreciate you flexing your pastor muscle by working in the story of Gideon.
Oversimplified uploading is like Santa coming once a year. Your reactions and like Santa forgot something and he is coming back !
Keep up the great work both of you !
Romans: Master of the continent
France with Napoleon: Master of the continent
Carthage: Mistress of the seas
Great Britain: Mistress of the seas
So in a nutshell: the best weapon in a war is the weather cause it can really affect the outcome immediately.
Something interesting about this that the US actually had a research project during the cold war that would allow them to control the weather and create huge storms and extreme winters.
Its still around today.
What is impressive is, that Hannibal achieved his feats with an army of various barbarian tribes! No professional army, except the numidian riders.
On the top 3 Generals of the ancient times, if not the best :)
I thought it was Hamilcar Barka
@@somerandomguyonyt8766 We are talking about Hannibal Barka here not Hamilcar Barka ;)
7:26 Thank you for referencing that comment! I added in an online source corroborating this because I couldn't find an academic or historical source for it in my notes; it was probably something my professor mentioned in passing and that I remembered because it was so fascinating to me.
They probably fought a really big crocodile or snake lol
what id say is that you sometimes clear the misconceptions and add commentary to help people understand better, you guys should do a collab
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Tbh I waited the whole day for that xD
This is the only reaction channel that I love, he provides further information, facts and fun things to the video. Hence the video being way longer than the original one. Don’t stop providing quality content!
VTH another great example of the sign from god story is Robert Bruce and the spider, where he contemplated ending his war if a spider he observed while hiding in a cave couldn't complete it's net due to the rain.
I always watch oversimplified's video first because i want to understand the whole topic (especially since i haven't heard of some historical event that they cover before) and then i go over to this channel to get some additional info to further undersands the topic without overflowing my brain with informations, that's why i really love your reaction (and i like it when you cover extra history's content too).
May i suggest you try reacting to extra history's video about majapahit kingdom? I really love when you are reacting to history about asian kingdoms/historical figure, and i think the story of majapahit is gonna pique your interest since this is the kingdom that kubilai khan was not manage to conquer. There is a lot of betrayal and drama added to the mix, so it's gonna be fun to watch 👍
I'm really young and this inspires me to learn more about history. Learning so much from these reactions! Love from Canada 🇨🇦
Hey man, maybe consider reacting to extra history’s series on the second punic war. Not only is it a pretty logical follow up, its also interesting on a meta level because its the very first extra history made by the extra credits team. So its kinda like waching the history of the extra credits channel
Poor Woodrow Wilson and allies, if only they hadn't had their history books stolen from their libraries before imposing crippling sanctions on Germany at the end of WWI, they could have known not to do that.
Whenever I heard about the Carthaginians taking shelter while Rome ran headlong into a storm, I always remember that story of the Apostle Paul being shipped to Rome on a prison vessel, and he straight up tells the commander, "Ya know, maybe we should winter here. The weather gets awfully nasty in the Mediterranean this time of year and God basically told me if we go out there, this ship ain't gonna make it."
And the Romans did it anyway, and they all got shipwrecked. Some 200 years after the first Punic war... and Rome still doesn't comprehend Mediterranean weather patterns. XD
The only thing we learn from history, is that no one learns from history. Imagine if the people who had drafted the treaty of Versailles had studied the punic wars.
Anyway, thank you so much for your awesome reaction and I cannot wait to see you react to the second punic wars :)
I bet they did but didn’t care. People who draft treaties are concerned only with enriching themselves, not about potential future casualties. Not to mention Germany lost again and even today the allies reap benefits from it. If they had the chance I’m certain they’d go the exact same route as they end up victorious at the end. Who cares about casualties when you get rich and powerful..
@@ventsislavstefanov9590 good point
I would agree with the point that reaction content is easy and repetitive ONLY if the reaction doesn't give anything else. For example if you were to just watch the video, stone face, silent then yes, it would just be even worst than to repost the whole video. BUT as you are a history channel or most of ur content are. You are able to give inputs and own opinions and knowledge in addition to the video which makes it not ripping of anyone
I always go the Oversimplified first, but the backstory about the "serpent battle" is why I come here. And to see VTH's reaction to the jokes 🙂
For your information hunt about the second punic war; Historymarche has a pretty good series on it. It's not done yet, but they have gotten beyond cannae (which is where most series start to massively condense the story which they so far haven't) and are now at around the second battle of nola.
Oh and if you think rome showed superhuman determination, stubborness and manpower mobilisation levels in the first punic war, well... let's just say it wasn't a one-off, they really might be unique in world history in how much of their population they were able and willing to put into the field, it's really insane honestly how many legions they managed to raise. A few years after(!) cannae, they might have reached over 250.000 (!!!!!) men under arms in total, which is just BONKERS.
Oversimplified getting 60K from reaction videos: 🤑
4:35 it could have been a Dinosaur. The word dinosaur wasn’t made until 1841. And dictionaries before that referred to Dinosaurs as “Dragons/Big Lizards”
I wouldnt be suprised if it was a big komodo dragon.
If you wanna watch videos on Punic wars extra history has a series on it
After this series you could watch Extra History's Brothers Gracchi. It's a great series and it's really good at explaining a very interesting period in Roman history.
The fact that you're so excited and actually getting ready for the 2nd punic war tells me how much you love history and it kinda made me want to watch it as well.
Another thing about weather affecting war. During the 1798 rebellion in Ireland. The Irish asked the French for help against the British, they got a full fleet ready but didn't land because there's was a storm. If there wasn't a storm, Ireland could of been French!
i think the romans fought a rock python which they thought it was a dragon
oversimplified way of teaching is so cool and modern that i can literally go back and watch civil war vidoes for the 5th time since it came out and still watch it while paying attention
I you want to get more detailed look into the Punic Wars and or maybe even an overall look into Rome from it's founding to the collapse of the Western Roman Empire I highly recommend the History of Rome podcast by Mike Duncan. Great listen.
Excited for the 2nd part!
I still vehemently disagree with this idea that the Treaty of Versailles caused WW2, it ignores the several other treaties which ended the war all of which imposed financial indemnities and were arguably far more harsh than Versailles. Imposing reparations on the loser has been a standard practice in war for thousands of years, as can be seen when the German imposed very harsh indemnities on the French in 1871 and the Russians in 1918. The idea that reparations lead to war is an example of how briliantly Germans have manipulated history to make themselves look like victims.
Oversimplified is great on its own but your commentary just adds another layer to it. Keep up the good work man
While you're waiting for Oversimplified to release the second punic war video, you can react to "what the romans thought of other cultures" by DJ Peach Cobbler, which is a connected topic
One thing you have to give Rome, were their ability to gather men after loosing thousands. This shows big in thr battle of canae where they lost big big numbers, and rome still kept on fighting
I recommend checking out the Shimabara Rebellion by Kings and Generals. It covers the failed uprising of the Japanese Christians.
as an italian: At school they never thought us the Roman losses in the punic wars.
but man, i'm surprised.
You are taking a copyrighted video and adding historical context and commentary, which makes it transformative. This is completely covered under the fair use doctrine and is therefore eligible for TH-cam monetization, if wanted. Tubers do this every day without blinking an eye.
I understand that you think that you are just reuploading another channels' content and don't deserve to be compensated for the use (a repespectable stance, and one anyone would expect from you after watching your channel for any length of time) , but you ARE adding value to their content and also helping the expand their viewership footprint. It's not inconsequential. I bet you can make a deal with them.
Yep I know it should be that way but they manually claim every reaction video and appeals have always been denied.
Thanks man it is really cool watching you. Especially your original content.
$60k for just your reaction… That’s more than most of us make in a year… Wow…
history marche has done an amazing series on the Second Punic War, its really good. It's in the same vein as Epic History TV. Highly recommended.
I never knew that about reaction videos. I'm glad they get money from it, although you add plenty of extra stuff as well. I think a reaction video is what got me into this and your gaming channel.
Not all reaction videos. Oversimplified is the only big history channel that always monetizes any video that uses their content.
I appreciate the parallels you're making with the punic wars and ww2. It really shows how history repeats itself and some never learn
The reason the Yamato (The most prestigious Japanese warship) and the Bismark (The most prestigious German warship) were never very impactful in actual battles was that both navies feared the loss of them so they rarely saw combat action but were mostly a symbol of might. I believe the war elephants were used the same way.
Elephants getting spooked also had the potential to trample your soldiers and cuase damage rather than helping.
Well the Bismarck Had a hard time going into Battle after being promoted to a Submarine
@@Manimmut well it wasn't The Vasa so it had opportunities to be deployed before it was a submarine
@@isaqkampp4044 it wasnt the vasa? Whats that
@@Manimmut A ship built by the Swedes that sank after sailing 1300Meters.
What I ment by that is that the Bismark wasn't sunk at the beginning of the war so had plenty of opportunities to be used but wasn't used alot. It didn't have a hard time to go into battle because it was sunk in the years leading up to its sinking but rather, as I stated, it didn't go into battle because the Wehrmacht feared loosing their symbol of power so much that they wasted the opportunity it had. The lesson many nations learned after ww2 was that overly expensive and large military installations/machines weren't worth it compared to many more smaller "expendable" units.
If a nation was to build something grand, like the USA's large aircraft carriers, they would not be left to sail around alone or with very minimal escort. Any Aircraft carrier today (the bismark of the modern age) is always supported by many different vessels and support.
Just a thought on the dragon. The two most likely candidates would be an over sized cobra or an over sized crocodile.
Here a couple thoughts from what I know about nature.
1) White tail deer size is based on the amount of nutrients in the area.
- in Texas where the habitat isn't as well suited for them, they are small
- up in the back woods of Wisconsin and the Upper Penninsula they grow to nearly mule deer size. In general, mule deer are about 10% large than white tail. I suspect Ohio might have some areas where the white tail get quite large as well.
- to be fair, this is a general case about animals and is why on islands where resources are a bit more limited it is quite common to find dwarf version of other species.
- in other circumstances animals occasionally undergo gigantism (growing larger than normal)
2) On occasion, single example of animals can have a thyroid issue and grow much larger than normal. These are rare one off events.
- this has been documented in humans (could this be the source of stories about giants?)
--- while humans typically top out in the 6foot (183cm) range, the tallest ever measure person by Guiness Book was 8foot 11 inches (270cm).
- in the southern US, feral pigs typically top out around a couple hundred pounds. however, there are examples in the couple thousand pound range. these are often referred to as hogzillas. should the hog population in the south ever get under control, these hogzillas won't be seen any more and will become the stuff of legends.
3) Until recently (last 20-30 years) the following were thought to be myths
- giant squids
- giant octopus
- enormous rogue waves
- an ancient catostrophic flood in the Mediteranean
What other legends/myths will become fact over the next 20-30 years?
Knowing the above, it is quite possible that the Romans came across an oversized (due to abundant resources and/or a thyroid problem) crocodile/snake. The story was likely embleshished more and more through subesquent retellings until we get the story we currently have. In such a case you would get exactly what is suggested. It is a story based on truth but exagerated to the point of being unbelievable.
Personally, I am leaning toward a crocodile due them being a bit larger/bulkier and taking a lot more physical damage to bring down thus leading to an epic fight. Crococidiles do not exist in Europe and have a serpentine appearance. As such, it is quite possible there is a misidentification as well. However, the area isn't in today's typical crocodile range. While cobras can get quite long, their bulk is far less than a crocodile and are much easier to kill. However, the epic fight may have happened due to the speed and faint attacks from a cobra. The size may have gotten exaggerate as snakes in Europe are tiny compared to a cobra. We can't know for certain what the animal actually was, so draw your own conclusions. I have just offered a couple plausable explanations.
33:47 I don’t wish to be the bad guy here, but I have to say it. Sometimes you MUST give up, else things might get worse than they were. It is a good thing to fight for what you want, and admirable to keep going despite the hardships, but let’s not confuse determination with stubbornness. If you fall for the same rock again and again and again and you just keep going you’ll just end up hurting yourself. It’s good to keep going despite things, but it’s also good to know when to stop.
If you want to learn more about the 2nd Punic war, then I highly recommend the excellent series by historyMarche on Hannibal and the conflict in general, granted it is not finished yet, but it is one of the most detailed on youtube
I remember reading of a Chinese General who when faced with an almost impenetrable city which could survive a siege for years during which he'd have to deal with constant assaults from the enemy and struggling with no supply lines for his own army.
So he sacked a dozen or so other cities in the surrounding areas. Taking great care to spare the civilians and then herding them towards the main city.
By the time he began sieging the city it now held an estimated four or five times it's usual population, all of which were panicked and angry.
Some accounts also claim he'd planted spies disguised as vagrants or injured citizens in the refugees who stirred up trouble in the city and burnt one or more of the city's main granaries.