Jim Cornette on The Build-Up To Tully Blanchard vs. Magnum T.A. At Starrcade '85
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- From Episode 167 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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the match had a level of realism that is rarely touched in wrestling. you thought these two legit hated each other, wanted to legit hurt each other, and would legit bleed to death before quitting
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The build up to this tremendous blow-off match between NWA U.S. Heavyweight Champion, Tully Blanchard vs. Magnum T.A. at Starcade '85 in a steel cage with "I Quit" rules is the best thing ever in NWA/JCP/Mid-Atlantic History! The hatred started in June between the two when Magnum was announcing and getting involved physically in Tully's World TV Title defenses. In July, Tully takes away the belt from Magnum when Baby Doll, dressed as a security guard, handed Tully a roll of quarters in which he used to knock out Magnum and cover him for the pin. That led to great promos by both men, led to bloody and brutal matches all across the country between the two, and finally we got Starcade 85! Best match on the card, and that match has gone down in history as the best "I Quit" ever!
I always loved the loophole that Tully STILL uses....He always says that he never actually said "I Quit" which is true..Lol
And Curtis Axel is STILL...In the Royal Rumble, he’s Never been eliminated to this day
Tobias Farragut he was eliminated next yr
@@Dream11KaBoss goddamnit!...was so looking forward to that freak fluke “Title Opportunity” when they’ve run tf out of ideas and need someone to dust off and feed to whomever the current champion is
Underrated part of this......The Barbarian actually thinking Miss Atlanta Lively was really a woman😅
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, turn off the lights to make it chicken.
"Mr Crockett ... Canceled Checks ... Dusty Rhodes ... Money Above ... It all fits together now" - Tully Blanchard
@Mil Maska
Belts? What happened to Wrestling? Wrestling's on the Marquee!
I Quit match in a Cage, is that what Jim would call "a hat on a hat" ?
The idea is that you can't run. Not can anyone (easily) interfere.
To bad Magnum had his career cut short. They were prepping him to the next face of the business.
Magnum was so cool.
When wrestling meant something!! When wrestlers had talent and integrity,!! Now look at today's scene
It's scripted dude. Even back then.
@@gaylordfocker7990 It wasn't as blatantly obvious as it is now though
@Gaylord Focker the finish was scripted and they knew how long they were supposed to go. The more experienced/more important guy called the match in the ring. The guys all knew how to work and didn't need the whole match to be scripted like matches are today.
@@gaylordfocker7990 It’s always been scripted pal. Well, since the boys finally figured out, “hey we don’t have to actually beat the shit out of each other to get people to hand over money to see this shit”. And if you still think it’s fake why don’t you let the decaying carcass of Lou Thesz or Ed Lewis show you a hold...
@Dylan Smith What? I bet you live in a trailer park and drive a pickup.
I love that build started with Dusty vs Tully a year earlier.
oh for the good old days!
This match kicked all kinds of ass.
Magnum TA was my favorite wrestler growing up.
Tully vs his ex wife new husband Magnum Ta in a I quit match. They should've had that on the marquee.
I mean Tully said it in a promo and my 12 year brain bought it. He said “if you don’t like violence don’t come.” Damn. Bob Giegel said The NWA wouldn’t sanction the match
Oh Jimmy,
Back in the day where the heels “ most of the time” would call the match, set the pace, pull the high spots, grabbing the heat, pulling in the crowd with the intensity every time the ref would grad the microphone and the double switch on the ending with babydoll tossing in the chair, Tully breaking off that vampire style stake magnum getting the upper hand and getting Tully to say” and here is the catch”
Yyyeeeessssss! Yyyeeeessss! But never did he say “ I quit “ so in a textbook cage match, never to this day has it been duplicated you had a classic. The only other two cage matches that are talked about as much as this are Dan Morocco versus jimmy Snuka and not necessarily a cage match but Undertaker vs mankind hell in a cell.
That is how much impact that starcade match had.
Lol at manny Fernandez trying to say the Mexican death match was supposed to be the main event. Uh, no.
Isn't magnum ta with tullys ex wife in real life
yes. magnum is married to her now
Tully should have ask the ref if he quit!
I love these watch alongs..great after a blunt inhaling your dinner and watching along and laughing at Jims reactions
Jim is great
Ive did an extensive search in 1985 involving the Mid Atlantic HW Title. Its said Buzz Tyler abruptly left the JCP vacating the title after summer of 85. But as the the Starrcade 85 match between Krusher Krueschev defeating Sam Houston in "tournament final' for the vacant MA title. I think it was a one on one deciding match, not a drawn out bracket tournament. I find NO information, results or records of any kind involving ANY other than those two involved/involving a tournament.
Yeah I think the tournament was either a total work, or partial work with some matches on 📺.
wait... when jim’s going over results, he says dusty d. flair via dq? i thought ‘85 was the year w/joe frazier as ref & flair winning via blood stoppage?
84 was with Frazier as referee
That was the million dollar match
No that was 84 with the check.
Dusty was announced as the new nwa world champion that night.
But tommy young reversed the call and Bob Geigle returned the belt to Ric later that night. Kay fab in actuality dusty handed Ric the belt as soon as he got to the dressing rooms. Great match baby we had them from the star spangled banner to the last bell darling.
You know if this was now and they both still wrestled it would be Tessa on a pole match.
Magnum ta is awesome
Lord Humongous. I haven't heard that name in a while. I liked him as a kid, just because of his look.
Did you know that was Sid?
@@jamieallwood4567 Later on, yes. But not as a kid.
A guy named Emory Hale appeared as Lord Humongous for Ron Fuller in NWA Southeastern. Sid Vicious wrestled in Memphis for Ron's own brother Robert. Emory Hale passed away a few short years ago.😔B.W.
Interestingly enough in 1975 Robert Fuller's cousin and veteran Tag Team Partner Jimmy Golden won The NWA JCP MidAtlantic Championship.B.W.
Had he not had the accident, I would have loved to had seen a Magnum vs Rick Rude feud. No doubt the ladies would have gone crazy for that one.
would have loved to have seen him against Lugar, Windham, Sting, Von Erich (Kerry), and Flair of course...To bad things just weren't in the cards. The wrestling gods said after oct. 86 that's it unfortunately.
Rocky king for hall of fame
Rocky
Magnum TA and Tully Blanchard the Best I quit match of all time at this point this match was the best coolest most awesome feud Coming to a head at Starcade 85 I quit match in a cage there are a lot of feuds That stand out to me this feud was very special for one thing it was a Long feud the way feuds Should be told I quit matches of recent wrestling promotion AEW and WWE We’re by no means even close to the quality of this match Magnum TA and Tully Blanchard We’re so much better performers and workers than the wrestlers up today there’s just no comparison 🧐🤔🤘🩸 and the blood 🩸 was done right but old-school wrestlers bled almost every night if not every night 🧐🤔🤘 that’s what I mean by better performers and better workers way more pride in their finished product 🤘
I think they realized what the point was. They new it was an angle and they used it to sell a match. Made it brutal and people whated to see the concussion.
I 💯agree.
The gold standard, bar none.
RIP Nikita Koloff, 1988
What?.... u mean when Nikita retired because his wife was ill then she passed away
If I ever did a Cornette Cameo, I just want him to say I “…used my left & right turn idicators.” That is the compliment
the match: www.dailymotion.com/video/x32jse
Thx !
YESSSSSSSSSSS! YESSSSSSSSSSS!
Jim always was just a worker
And this is the greatest match of all time.
That match STILL unsettles me, and I've seen matches that look a bit nastier
I love Jim’s stories, but I can’t believe he actually thinks that anybody over 12 thought wrestling was real even in the 80s. Maybe things were different in the 60s/70s but even then I find it hard to believe that “the masses” thought it was real
It was presented much more realistically so disbelief was much easier to suspend.
There was no internet either.
@K S Thank you. It was presented so well it made you suspend your beliefs
I think there’s some truth to folks figuring some matches were predetermined, but a few such as Magnum vs Tully was real from the heat & ferocity of the buildup and the actual match.
Here anyway, most thought "Some is likely put on, but this match, this match, etc. Are real." So you're 100% wrong. Just depends on how good the guys were at their job.
And then Tully chased his wife with a crowbar, she had an affair with a lawyer from the ski slopes, and married Terry aka Magnum and Tully moved down the street and stalked them for a few years while running the phony evangelist work while refusing to mention Gino or what happened to him for 34 years and counting. He'd be lying anyway so not a big loss
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Unfollowing. You post too many snippets. I'll just pop back now and then to find the podcasts.
And even worse they include the on air plugs in the snippets too 🤣🤣