Jim Cornette Reviews A&E's WWE Rivals: The Rock vs. John Cena

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  • From Episode 284 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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  • @truthtyperii7727
    @truthtyperii7727 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    It’s so funny how Cena actually got out on boxes of fruity pebbles because of what The Rock said 😂

    • @thugsbunny1790
      @thugsbunny1790 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It worked actually because I definitely remember buying those when I was younger😂😂

    • @seanstransformationjourney2682
      @seanstransformationjourney2682 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Darren young should have gotten the cocoa pebbles

    • @OmegaRedFan
      @OmegaRedFan ปีที่แล้ว

      No. NOT FUNNY

    • @johnzeegler8641
      @johnzeegler8641 ปีที่แล้ว

      Breakfast of Super Heros I suppose. 🫢🤔

    • @benwest1839
      @benwest1839 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OmegaRedFan Okay loser

  • @LemoncookieTV
    @LemoncookieTV ปีที่แล้ว +58

    In retrospective, The Rock's wrestling career was criminally short. Wrestled for six years, then came back a decade later to wrestle a handful of matches and leave again (after promosing he'd never leave again). And we see all those modern guys for twenty years in a row

    • @antonlifer4449
      @antonlifer4449 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Probably started to enjoy the movie star life where he only has to work so long and make way more money and didn't have to destroy his body 300 nights a year for a fraction of the cost. I probably would of done the same thing.

    • @benironside1264
      @benironside1264 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And that’s why we are all so utterly sick of the current roster. No one needs 15-20 years of Orton, Kofi, ziggler, Tamina, Shelton, Nattie.
      Bring back drugs I say, shortening careers at least kept the TV fresh 😂

    • @jayglenn82
      @jayglenn82 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Rock did more in 6 that cena could dream of doing in 20

    • @insupportofjunhado
      @insupportofjunhado ปีที่แล้ว

      There need to be other places for wrestlers to go other than WWE. I guess if you don't mind working the fans a little less and your body a little more, there's UFC, provided Dana White likes you. I like CM Punk too, but why Punk and not Bobby Lashley? Punk might be straight edge but White's on drugs! There's also Mexico, and Japan, if you don't mind getting a passport, but New Japan, CMLL, AAA, each is only a marginally larger club than UFC. More accepting of pro wrestlers, but they already have a ton of their own who don't need passports. Or you know Hollywood/Universal studios, if you're like King Kong Bundy, Big Van Vader, The Rock, Batista, John Cena or...Nathan Jones? God knows there's hundreds of wrestlers over the years who would have been great in movies but never got a second look by casting, directors, writers, actors, executives. Randy Savage was fine as Buzzsaw, why did that not keep going? The Mexican wrestlers used to be big in the Mexican movies. Yeah, Santo Jr killed that off, but maybe somebody should open that back up? Maybe somebody should break into the Nigerian or Indian film scene. Those movies make a lot of money, and I'm sure they'd make even more with big pasty foreigners who looks good with their shirts off. Shango versus Sheamus, Mahamada versus Mustafa Ali!
      If you're good with Carlos Colon or Savio Vega you might be able to get your hands on some of the money left in Puerto Rico, but the hurricanes are getting worse, and the Richard Negrins tend to be more fickle with that money than the Dixie Carters and Tony Khans. Country music and pro wrestling go well together, supplement you indie income like Mickie James, though country doesn't print money like it used to. Music as a whole has been hit hard by digital piracy...but if you pose nude for a cellphone company maybe you can snag a nerdy chef to pay your bills like Gail Kim. Is Rachael Ray single? Look into that, Damien Priest, Austin Theory! Edit: Better yet, look into starting and Onlyfans!
      This is why AEW was such a disappointment. Why TNA was such a disappointment. Benevolent billionaires have bought/started something! Finally an alternative...oh look, they've got Big Dick Johnson lookalike wrestling Christy Hemme, they've got a wrestler without legs. Maybe this "Elite" thing can work as a proof of concept for the next...nothing because WWE and AEW both signed 300 wrestlers, ensuring it'll be another five years before anyone can even brainstorm a third national promotion. I still can't wrap my head around two companies having six hundred wrestlers between them while cutting back on dates! Yeah, they're dismissing bodies now, but how did that even happen in the first place? One had been pretending had shareholders to answer to, while Tony Khan doesn't seem like the type to smack down a secretary.

    • @benironside1264
      @benironside1264 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@insupportofjunhado that’s hullva long reply.. especially considering it doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the OP 😂

  • @nobleone89
    @nobleone89 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Cena’s 2015 Us title run is what made the smart fans start liking him.

    • @dciach12
      @dciach12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The "open challenge" was by far the most relevant that title has ever been!

    • @priyanshukatuwal
      @priyanshukatuwal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Smart and Wrestling fans are unlikely duo

    • @erniejohnson677
      @erniejohnson677 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@priyanshukatuwala pundi hindi and a pretty girl is an unlikely duo😂😂😂

    • @JessyNorris
      @JessyNorris 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Smart fans”

  • @jaysco5257
    @jaysco5257 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I've been waiting for Corny to review this rivalry. This feud along with THE Summer Of Punk brought me back to wrestling. I left after Backlash 2004, peeped in every once in a while but nothing serious, then came back when Rocky returned as the Guest Host of Mania in 2011. I've been back ever since, for better or worse lol

    • @8thaccount535
      @8thaccount535 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah the Punk Era was the last time I really enjoyed the WWE.

    • @SpaceGhost92
      @SpaceGhost92 ปีที่แล้ว

      You skipped 04-10 just to come back for this horseshit? Yikes

    • @SpaceGhost92
      @SpaceGhost92 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @KennyOmegasDorsaICavity96-98 was the height on the Monday night war, and it was fantastic. But from 99-05 ish wwe still produced some really good stuff and I hung around till hbk and edge retired

    • @eddie9244
      @eddie9244 ปีที่แล้ว

      My journey was summerslam 1989-WM 1996, stopped watching for a couple years until king of the ring 1998. Was glued until May 2001. Checked in here and there in 2005, 2010, & 2014. Got the network in 2016 and rewatched all WCW, WWE shows and PPV in chronological order from 1985 on. Im currently on summerslam 2015. Its taken me several years to almost catch up. In my opinion the best years were 1997,1998,2000,2002,2003,2005,2006

    • @eddie9244
      @eddie9244 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kenny Omega's DorsaI Cavity 1998 will always be my favorite . 2000 was better than 1999 in my opinion

  • @JasonKing8113
    @JasonKing8113 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I always find it hilarious looking back at this fued especially that Cena talked all that "shoot" stuff on Rock and now look at where Cena is and what he's doing lmao

    • @zach7948
      @zach7948 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope John sent a fruit basket by way of apology.

    • @socialistbatman1211
      @socialistbatman1211 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Cena was fulltime for over a decade, and went hollywood as a middle aged man. Rock left in his prime years, when the company could’ve used his star power for a couple more years.

    • @TheRexrapper
      @TheRexrapper 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@socialistbatman1211 The Rock accomplished everything there as to accomplish in wrestling. There was nothing left for him to do. He elevated the company to heights it had never seen and hasn't seen since. Cena can't say that. If Cena was getting big time movie roles at 30, he would have left too. The Rock got the highest contract ever by a first time actor.

  • @frank-bmtz
    @frank-bmtz ปีที่แล้ว +40

    All of that worked so well in 2011/2012 because Rock and Cena had legitimate issues with one another.

    • @Sky_Blaze
      @Sky_Blaze ปีที่แล้ว

      Both being pre modanna bitches..two sides of the same coin. And John came out looking like a hypocrite. Now he's amovie star doing what the rock did.

    • @OmegaRedFan
      @OmegaRedFan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mark

    • @AAEJ3
      @AAEJ3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@OmegaRedFan Why?

    • @antonlifer4449
      @antonlifer4449 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@@OmegaRedFan how's he a mark? They did have some heat with each other. Cena ended up apologizing years later for it in an interview.

    • @JessyNorris
      @JessyNorris 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@antonlifer4449mark

  • @jamirimaj6880
    @jamirimaj6880 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    The biggest negative of this feud is WWE not allowing Roddy Piper to host Piper's Pit involving both of them.

    • @louio
      @louio ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Nah you trippin' biggest negative was having a rematch. Lol

    • @notarealperson87
      @notarealperson87 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@louio as soon as they announced the first match, i knew there was gonna be a rematch since they cant have either one definitively lose. that said, there was NO reason to make the rematch a title match. it cut the legs out from under CM Punk's title run, and within 6 months neither Cena nor Rock were around for the title storylines anyway.

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@notarealperson87 they needed a 'legit' reasom for it as it was 'once in a lifetime'

  • @jessepaiz6356
    @jessepaiz6356 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    R-truth was actually a great heel. His fued with Cena actually did better ratings than the Punk vs. Cena build to MITB. That's why he rewarded with the Miz tag team and got a bug heel run til the rest of the year.

    • @DannyBoy426
      @DannyBoy426 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly, that duo should’ve lasted longer. Miz and Truth

    • @blakemaxfield4267
      @blakemaxfield4267 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Could have done more with R-Truth tbh other than the guys they always had at the top over n over again

  • @chico1680
    @chico1680 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The Raw Jim is referencing where Rock had the notes written on his wrist/forearm was the last wrestling show I've been to. CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan was on the show in a Champion vs Champion match. Solid match.

    • @admincxs1670
      @admincxs1670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      was that the one where they beat each other?

  • @Sky_Blaze
    @Sky_Blaze ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The matches sucked cause rock was so steroided out he couldn't go a minute without tearing something.

  • @seventyseven7815
    @seventyseven7815 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Miz has been in wrestlemania 10 times with a 4 - 6 record and also has had a total of 20 championships. People may hate him but the WWE sure uses him a lot.

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "Keep making fun of this Fruity Pebble, Rock, cause I ain’t even close to sick of it
    I’m Mr. Kung Pao Chicken, you’re just Miami fried chicken s h I t" - John Cena

  • @WallyHays
    @WallyHays ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I know Brian slipped at the beginning with AEW but I would absolutely love it if someone did a AEW Rivals series. They'd all be two minutes long.

  • @DBonaldi
    @DBonaldi ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The bald spot on the back 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀

  • @MajorMotions
    @MajorMotions ปีที่แล้ว +33

    And don’t forget that Miz won that WM 27 match, one of the few to actually retain the championship at Wrestlemania in the modern era.

    • @NeilAlanBarker
      @NeilAlanBarker ปีที่แล้ว

      Loads of people have retained at Mania since Wrestlemania 22. It used to be rare. Not in the last 15 years though.

    • @NeilAlanBarker
      @NeilAlanBarker ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Matthew saying Miz is one of few to retain... It was rare to retain before Wrestlemania 22. Since then loads of people have retained. In fact since the introduction of 2 world titles retaining is common. Triple H 19 & 25. Guerrero 20. Cena 22 & 23. Orton 24. Jericho 26. Edge & Miz 27. Del Rio 29. AJ Styles and Brock Lesnar 34. Lashley 37. Reigns 37 & 38

    • @matthewrock4725
      @matthewrock4725 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@NeilAlanBarker Miz and HHH To that point, and even further, were the only two HEELS to retain the title in the main event.

    • @MajorMotions
      @MajorMotions ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeilAlanBarker when I said Main Event, I’m talking about the last match on the card. There’s only been two. Miz and HHH.

  • @robertcrist5747
    @robertcrist5747 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I still liked Cena's feud with JBL back when he was " The Wrestling God" and John was the "Chaingang Warrior". The I quit match was classic.

  • @KingJaymo2k11
    @KingJaymo2k11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Everyone is reacting to Cena pointing out The Rock with notes on his wrist, but the crowd didn’t react at all when he said it…they could care less

    • @tyyrreekk9005
      @tyyrreekk9005 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Exactly Cena gets praised for that feud now but back then everyone was on The Rock's side.

    • @TheRexrapper
      @TheRexrapper 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Only fans on the internet seemed to care. On RAW, no one gave a damn lol

  • @darksideon
    @darksideon ปีที่แล้ว +63

    The promo Rock cut on Cena where he was in front of some mountains was amazing. The reason this feud fell flat is because they weren't on the same page. Rock is cutting storyline promos, while Cena is constantly shooting. I called it back then and said Cena was jealous. Rock was an A list movie star and Cena was doing WWE films. Now look at the irony of Cena's promos a decade later.

    • @mrdrumz48
      @mrdrumz48 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Cena schooled Rock in a lot of the promos In their feud. Cena is one of the very few that can hang with Rock on the mic.

    • @OzzyOscy
      @OzzyOscy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mrdrumz48 At the risk of sounding like 'Generic Cena Hater #1539', the guy's cheesy and cringe in promos.

    • @sonnypilgrem3536
      @sonnypilgrem3536 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Didn’t think the feud was flat at all. Was quality programming in that lead up.

    • @socialistbatman1211
      @socialistbatman1211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cena put over that promo, then immediately said that the only time Rock had anything decent to say, it was prerecorded. Forever my goat for that

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mrdrumz48 he schooled him early without doubt and did so for 2 reasons for me, cena when he isn't cutting cringe wwe propaganda promos is very good and the rock had an insane work schedule and wasn't locked in....the humiliation of cena calling him out from thst point the rock cut some great ones

  • @Lembardi
    @Lembardi ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Travis didnt have to go as hard as he did on the thumbnail 😂😂😂

  • @aktatiracanal
    @aktatiracanal ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Cena kept saying that The Rock didn't love the business. I thought that idea was misguided from the start. Dwayne Johnson's mother's family is integral to the history of wrestling and so is his dad. If anything, Dwayne probably not only loves the business, but knows it better than most and how to transition to another career afterwards.
    (On a side note, I wonder if The Rock and Becky Lynch are good friends. She appeared on an episode of "The Young Rock" and her move, "The Manhandle Slam" is similar to "The Rock Bottom.")
    Cena later admitted that The Rock helped opened doors for him and others and seemed more appreciative of what The Rock has accomplished in WWE.

  • @davey3884
    @davey3884 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cena is and always has been the shits, Jim only sucks up to him because he was in OVW.

  • @11nytram11
    @11nytram11 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I remember being infuriated by the Wrestlemania main event where the Miz defended against John Cena because it just highlighted how worthless that Wrestlemania was. The WWE Title Match was just an angle to set up for the next year's Mania, and after having to sit through almost 15 minutes of Micheal Cole vs Jerry Lawler - which should have been a five minute squash match, if that - and being deprived of the advertised Sheamus/Daniel Bryan match, having a double-count finish in the main-event overturned only for the Rock to beat up both the Champion and Challenger all to set up a match for the following year just felt like having salt rubbed in a wound.

    • @matthewrock4725
      @matthewrock4725 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well to be fair, pretty sure the finish was slightly altered bc Miz was blacked the fuck out with a concussion towards the end.

    • @blakemaxfield4267
      @blakemaxfield4267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@matthewrock4725 When he fell on the concrete right?

    • @christiankarlkarganilla2763
      @christiankarlkarganilla2763 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@blakemaxfield4267 yep. Kinda feel bad for the Miz. He has said that hie doesn't remember his Mania main event win because he blacked out after that hit to the concrete. I kean we all know the main event sucked but still, I feel bad Miz was not able to remeber his "crowning achievement"

  • @Daniel-ml6tl
    @Daniel-ml6tl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Cena Doesn't even get boo'd now cause the fans realized he was the last class of wrestlers that actually had passion for the business

    • @TheRexrapper
      @TheRexrapper 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He doesn't get booed now because he's not in their face every week anymore. If he was with that super Cena gimmick the same thing would be happening.

  • @matthewrock4725
    @matthewrock4725 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Miz main eventing WrestleMania made me happy then and still does. Lmfao must piss off CM Punk to no end 😂😂. AND he beat John Cena! Best fan scenario ever 🤣

  • @JaculaDudek
    @JaculaDudek ปีที่แล้ว +25

    20:55 "what was he, fucking 7?" (about Gargano)
    That one made me laugh HARD 😂😂😂

    • @barrystewart5946
      @barrystewart5946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I shouted out “Johnny Sameface” when he appeared.

  • @marcosgonzalez4027
    @marcosgonzalez4027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was for Cena on that feud because The Rock is such a kiss ass when the fans like him. I like when The Rock is pissed and a asshole that's when he is cool .

  • @JDotWill
    @JDotWill ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Miz & Truth were pretty hot heels at the time. I know it seems preposterous now but it worked back then

  • @Billinois78
    @Billinois78 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The era of WWE they speak of was where I stopped watching.

  • @CombatTalkRadio
    @CombatTalkRadio ปีที่แล้ว +8

    R-Truth was back at peak during that time. Heel R-Truth was the best of him.
    And Corny, we know you hate the New Day, but re: Fruity Pebbles...New Day got their OWN cereal from a catchphrase. That's above being endorsed for an existing cereal.

    • @tysontomko
      @tysontomko ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Remember when he asked someone in the audience for a cigarette? And smoked mid match? Was cool as hell

    • @petebagwell6666
      @petebagwell6666 ปีที่แล้ว

      That cereal thats basically made by wwe

  • @coltoncampbell3919
    @coltoncampbell3919 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was either 13 or 14 when the rock came back and started this with Cena. This was the last year before I found out wrestling was truly pre determined and boy I’m glad I didn’t know then because this rivalry was everything among me and my friends! P.S. Chris Jericho was the one who spoiled it for me.

  • @jonjohnson1978.
    @jonjohnson1978. ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a rock fan he took some brutal early shots when this fued got going, the writing on wrist being the standout..i think his work schedule had a lot to do with that and after cena pointed that out his promos got far better as i think the humiliation made him focus on it more

  • @plannein
    @plannein ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "and as we see now, they have gotten over it"
    I haven't. I never flip-flopped on that. Cena sucks and he was never good.

  • @jensavage58
    @jensavage58 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guess Jim doesn't realize this is the big thing that made his bestie Punk mad enough to quit WWE. Punk believes they should have either booked him in the match with Cena at Mania instead of The Rock, and/or that somehow he should have been the main event instead of these two, such as Punk vs. Daniel Bryan. I wonder if Jim's opinion of Punk would change if he knew that? It's an example of how ridiculous and delusional Mr. Brooks really is.

  • @Coffee-Stain-Music
    @Coffee-Stain-Music ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The first go with Cena and Rock was great. The promos were hot and the match was much better than most expected. The 2nd run? Not so much. Rock got out at the right time. I just remember his promos really started to show some age around that time. It was the first time Rock ever felt old to me. Then they had a poor match. Cena went over. People booed the hell out of it. Not good. They should have left it alone.

  • @jtg1972
    @jtg1972 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Ya know, I can't remember a single time ever seeing The Rock come off the top rope in his entire career. That says alot.

    • @Justin-bo5pg
      @Justin-bo5pg ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Early on he did a cross body off the top

    • @antonlifer4449
      @antonlifer4449 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just when he first came in and had that weird haircut, he did a cross body. That's all I remember him doing off the top rope.

    • @jtg1972
      @jtg1972 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you notice he never did it again after that!

    • @aceloco817
      @aceloco817 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@JTG he actually came off the top rope in the 2nd match of this fued. Just watched it. Lol. Other then that tho, never again! 😆

  • @jimaveli
    @jimaveli ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Unfortunately, when guys go at one another without approving the material upfront, you could end up with a brawl out situation. Or a Sunny Days altercation. Luckily Rock and Cena kept it together.

    • @rollingthunder8223
      @rollingthunder8223 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rock has nothing to lose

    • @benwest1839
      @benwest1839 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no! You mean like an actual fucking locker room?! That's what wrestling was, you clown. Most guys had the professionalism to keep it together, but if it did result in legitimate friction, it worked out for the better.

  • @mattypaul87
    @mattypaul87 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ah yes - the feud that in some weird way spawned the 2015 classic "The Flintstones & WWE: Stone Age SmackDown!"

    • @Sparkledash1
      @Sparkledash1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And got Cena into a Fruity Pebbles Commercial, which Cena actually thanked Rock for.

    • @jackC-1310
      @jackC-1310 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @mikewitt8491
      @mikewitt8491 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Sparkledash1 77ú Ii my no

  • @ryanbowles8483
    @ryanbowles8483 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Their first match is still the single highest grossing pay-per-view in wrestling history

  • @Kono_D._Oda
    @Kono_D._Oda ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wasn't there an episode when wrestlers boycotted RAW because of unsafe working environment? Brought about by Truth and Miz of all people!

    • @quentinkaasa47
      @quentinkaasa47 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should listen to Bryan & Vinny's review of it, here on TH-cam.

  • @jmc1986Mets
    @jmc1986Mets ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Disagree with Jim that MJF never had someone to joust with on the mic like Rock/Cena. Guy called CM Punk comes to mind.

  • @MrFoxxx47
    @MrFoxxx47 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The promos in this feud were gold but the actual matches were pretty terrible. The Rock was so jacked up at that point that he clearly couldn't move around the same way anymore lol. I'm pretty sure he got injured in one of those matches as well.

  • @LongLiveRockAnRoll
    @LongLiveRockAnRoll ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Jim calling going to the bathroom "my morning Russo" near the end of the video 😅

  • @Jackalblade9
    @Jackalblade9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This feud was fine to me, but I wish it hadn't been done in the PG era, these guys could have really cut loose verbally.

    • @blakemaxfield4267
      @blakemaxfield4267 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pg sucks I'm gonna kick your butt I haven't never said that in my life lol

  • @televiper11
    @televiper11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Probably had to cut out all of Lawler’s legal issues

  • @g-dub5272
    @g-dub5272 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Rock wrote the notes on his wrist deliberately so Cena can diss him with it. Cena was getting destroyed by The Rock and WWE didn’t want it to be 1 sided

    • @KingSilly
      @KingSilly ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao yeah because you worked at WWE at the time to know that. What a bozo

    • @aviwegexa9031
      @aviwegexa9031 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really no, considering Cena didn't even notice that, he was told by Miz not the management. What exactly did Rock say that was destroying Cena? The best line he had was the "Fruity pebbles" one which paled in comparison to what Cena was dishing out.

    • @starbreaker269
      @starbreaker269 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All the rock did was crack the same old jokes

    • @judshuttie70
      @judshuttie70 ปีที่แล้ว

      No when rock said Cena was barny dinosaurs love child that was funny Cena had his bright purple shirt on

    • @judshuttie70
      @judshuttie70 ปีที่แล้ว

      No when rock said Cena was barny dinosaurs love child that was funny Cena had his bright purple shirt on

  • @abnuridd24
    @abnuridd24 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine if Rock never turned heel and they just doubled down on babyface Rocky Mavia until it worked 😂😂😂

    • @blakemaxfield4267
      @blakemaxfield4267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's Cena going all the way with it like they tried to do again with reigns

  • @Sky_Blaze
    @Sky_Blaze ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This rivalry wouldve been better if it taken place 5 years before..by this point I was done with wwe, and tna had been ruined. Reasons why not to watch in 2011? the freakin Miz!! Wrestling was awful during this Era.

  • @arviejustiniano2359
    @arviejustiniano2359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ended up disliking this feud. it buried the title. Cena having a so called tough time while just winning all his matches. i tuned out for a while after this feud.

  • @DefendYoungstown
    @DefendYoungstown ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1) Alex Riley was an earlier example of WWE needing to change shit for no reason. His whole "Varsity Villain" gimmick was, then, close to what early MJF was before MJF was a thing. And it was working. But it was his own gimmick. So, of course, they had to fuck with it and make him a generic Randy Orton with his "Riley Rage" or whatever. And, like everyone else, that not working was somehow his fault.
    2) "The Awesome Truth" tag team was something that needed to be seen in context. It was bigger in the moment than it sounds in hindsight. Also, it makes me think on one of Punk's criticisms on what was going on backstage at the time: "If ratings are down, it's because Cena's not there. If Cena *is* there, and ratings are still down, it's _somehow_ the fault of Miz and R-Truth." (as opposed to the week to week product just being weak).
    3) the best zinger in that whole Rock/Cena feud is Cena pulling out the "I Bring It... Via Satellite" shirt.

  • @knivemares588
    @knivemares588 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “ONCE IN A LIFETIME… but we made so much money from it here it is again next year”

  • @drehgonden1103
    @drehgonden1103 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Actually r truth as a heel and miz as a heel drew more ratings than the summer of punk reign period. Hence why it was miz and truth vs John and rock.

  • @fatherfiguredad
    @fatherfiguredad ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Awesome Truth were over.

  • @specialk9424
    @specialk9424 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    His morning Russo. Jim is a fucking classic.

  • @tinotica
    @tinotica ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don’t know which main event match is more overrated or polarizing: HBK vs Bret Hart at Wrestlemania 12 or Cena vs Rock at Wrestlemania 28

  • @AWX_Wrestling
    @AWX_Wrestling ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had no problem with Rock vs Cena but the WWE title didn't need to be involved in it.

  • @5IvanDrago5
    @5IvanDrago5 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This feud happened at the height of the Dave Meltzer hoard of online wrestling fans. A generation of fans that grew up on the internet where programmed to always look for a bitch or gripe. No matter how good the card or match was fans where programed to find something to gripe about. Then as Jim calls them the, "smart fans" the offspring of a, "as reported by Dave Meltzer" generation got their what they wanted. they got their promotion with AEW where the inmates ran the asylum with a billionaire budget. This is no AEW bash, but AEW has not been the 5 star endless Iron Man matches with new talent emerging. It seems that some of these, "smart fans" that where programmed to itch, moan, and complain about everything have chilled a bit over the past few years.

  • @rhideflory
    @rhideflory ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ricky Starks can hang with MJF on the mic. Let’s not act like MJF is on an island by himself in AEW when it comes to promo work.

  • @jimmyv0997
    @jimmyv0997 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's ironic for Last to say Gerwitz latched onto The Rock 🤔

  • @cctitansfan
    @cctitansfan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some Fruity Pebbles Sound Good Right Now

    • @Lord_Bibulous
      @Lord_Bibulous ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just had some. Some things are meant to be

  • @ashleyjefferson4107
    @ashleyjefferson4107 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Truth was over in 2011

  • @insupportofjunhado
    @insupportofjunhado ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair, while R-Truth had abandoned being Ron Killings at that point and became a full on cartoon character, he was still a serious cartoon character, by WWE standards then. Had he actually beaten Cena, WWE might have had another star there. But of course he lost and got shoved down the card, like 99% of everyone who challenged Hulk Hog...I mean John Cena, as if challenging Cena for the belt once was the highlight of his career and there was nothing else to do with him afterwards. Truth ran into that AND the standard six months now lets play with the shiny new toy, like Ron Simmons squared.

  • @sonicplys64
    @sonicplys64 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My third favorite era of The Rock (first being Hollywood Heel in 2003, second being the corporate champion after Survivor Series 98).

  • @HoboWithAShotgun
    @HoboWithAShotgun 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rock called him "a bloated transvestite wonder woman" and its the greatest insult cena has ever had

  • @armanireyes753
    @armanireyes753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rock winning the first match was still the biggest mistake they could’ve made for John Cena’s career.

  • @kurtm00mau45
    @kurtm00mau45 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Miz and Truth were actually a team to be reckoned with at the time. They weren't doing comedy

    • @Kono_D._Oda
      @Kono_D._Oda ปีที่แล้ว +3

      99% of the roster walked out of RAW because of Miz and Truth _causing_ an unsafe working environment. It's nuts!

    • @Sky_Blaze
      @Sky_Blaze ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yet the Audience at home wasn't taking them serious and why they lost even more viewers.

    • @benwest1839
      @benwest1839 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weren't doing comedy my ass

  • @drehgonden1103
    @drehgonden1103 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What confused me is you had cody back . Who was there at the time and close to cena . So why didn't they ask for cody to talk in the gargano part.

  • @a.r.s978
    @a.r.s978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was cena’s biggest money match but Cena vs Edge was his best feud

  • @honchodamenace1179
    @honchodamenace1179 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MJF got Ricky Starks if they actually book Ricky correct

  • @omega.male4231
    @omega.male4231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:25, if Gargano was seven when the rock and Cena were feuding then he would have been a one year old when he got squashed by MVP on Smackdown in 2007🤣🤣🤣

  • @AGH69
    @AGH69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jerry Lawler's is only an hour because you can only stand in line for popcorn and take a bathroom break for so long.

  • @lesweenmachine
    @lesweenmachine ปีที่แล้ว +2

    R truth and John Morrison were big time over in this era.

  • @joelashadali
    @joelashadali ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This cover art maybe my fav of alltime!!! What a talent he is. I need a illustrated book with the best of these!

    • @SheriffOutlaw
      @SheriffOutlaw ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @chrismcelligott5462
      @chrismcelligott5462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the Great Cornzoo😂

    • @wuddupdog7689
      @wuddupdog7689 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been screen shotting and printing these in grey scale for my 6yo daughter to colour. She absolutely loves them.

  • @ethanallen3487
    @ethanallen3487 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “It doesn’t take a lot of his gravy to go over my plate.”
    Cornette’s opinions on Gargano could be a 5 hour show 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @animegamesmoviesandotherst3037
    @animegamesmoviesandotherst3037 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sadly Cena is the last real large star the WWE had or well have at the rate its going. He was just as big a draw as Hogan, Stone Cold, Taker, Macho Man, Flair, Goldberg, the Rock and other top guys of the 80s, and 90s.

    • @blakemaxfield4267
      @blakemaxfield4267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not as big a draw but a draw nonetheless

  • @KingOfWinter
    @KingOfWinter ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Punk Vs Austin could’ve held the people and took them on a ride just like Cena Vs Rock but I don’t think no other 2 could’ve at the time.... yes Cena got the fruity pebbles endorsement after the rocks insult. He was calling him fruity pebbles cause Cena would come out with a new colored shirt every other month

  • @Tmack034
    @Tmack034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked Awesome Truth. It was the last time R Truth was worth a damn. He's been a comedy act ever since

  • @itsyaboycruz
    @itsyaboycruz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cena's bald spot on the thumbnail 😂

  • @Gothy420
    @Gothy420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freddy prinze and his wacky team of investigators

  • @dallas317
    @dallas317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mfj comes off trying to hard.

  • @jayturbo3844
    @jayturbo3844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven’t seen the doc yet but the ECW crowd at One Night Stand 2006 chanted “fruity pebbles” at Cena

  • @drewburnettepodcasts
    @drewburnettepodcasts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess Magic Spoon is no longer a sponsor 😆😂. ANOTHER knock on Magic Spoon lol.

  • @VirgilZandig
    @VirgilZandig ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Jim Cornette vs. former sponsor Magic Spoon feud continues

  • @Doyd317
    @Doyd317 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rock vs Cena watch along?👀👀👀

  • @OneSideofFries
    @OneSideofFries ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s amazing how so much has changed over the last decade. Yes, Miz was the top heel in 2011. Adding R-Truth to it made him a bigger heel in the fall of that year. Because of Wrestlemania 28, April 1st, 2012 is a day I will never forget.

    • @mrsl262
      @mrsl262 ปีที่แล้ว

      I miss serious R-Truth

    • @OneSideofFries
      @OneSideofFries ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrsl262 Same

  • @franklincourten8281
    @franklincourten8281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lawler DEFINITELY deserved TWO HOURS!

  • @chrisyancey89
    @chrisyancey89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2011 was a weird yet eventful year for WWE "Summer of Punk" & Bryan's rise to stardom. It definitely had one of the worst WrestleMania events ever. It's also the same year Edge retired, Triple H became the "COO", the height of Michael Cole's heel run & time as #1 chief Miz fanboy, the end of the Nexus stable, Kevin Nash returning, Michelle McCool's retirement, A lengthy Jerry Lawler/Michael Cole feud, "Tough Enough" returning, Kane returned with long hair and another half-mask, & Laurinaitis becoming a tv heel authority figure are amongst the other crazy things from 2011.
    Miz & R Truth were booked as being 2 of the top heels in the company(the other main heels being Del Rio and Mark Henry) & formed a tag-team due to their shared hate of Cena. Miz & R-Truth as a team was serious enough to the point where there was an angle where Miz & Truth were arrested for assaulting officials, talent & trespassing during a Hell In A Cell triple threat title match after they were "fired" by Triple H on an earlier Raw show. Of course, they ultimately broke up as a team not long after the Survivor Series loss to Rock & Cena.
    Also, someone should read the Wrestlemania 27 match to Cornette. Would love to hear his reaction to Lawler vs Michael Cole w/Swagger, Snooki being involved in a match, & Kane in an 8 man tag team with Santino of all people.

  • @markstaffieri5732
    @markstaffieri5732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the 1-hour Biography of Jerry Lawler, the other 1-hour shall be Paige.

  • @roachasaurus2020
    @roachasaurus2020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't Freddie Prinze Jr. a writer during that time? He's been a lot more vocal about his role in the company the last few years

  • @johnnygrind77
    @johnnygrind77 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They shoulda done a highlight of Cena vs RVD at One Night Stand instead. Still one of my favorite moments in wrestling.

    • @juansanchez209
      @juansanchez209 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cena vs Rock did MUCH bigger business though. It makes sense why this would get a highlight special

    • @johnnygrind77
      @johnnygrind77 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juansanchez209 Obviously, I'm being a dick because I never liked Cena.

  • @kevinwhite3685
    @kevinwhite3685 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The rock doing the Boston tea party about Cena is one of the best promos. And awesome truth (miz and R-truth) was a good tag team.

  • @lesweenmachine
    @lesweenmachine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:30 it could have been a 3 way elimination and still had the Frazier Ali feel after both the big bad ken dolls team up to screw punk. Giving him an out and ammunition on the promo.

  • @On_da_Swivel.BarbershopTalk
    @On_da_Swivel.BarbershopTalk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is what's missing. Guys can't be trusted to do promo work. Or don't have the skill. Rock/Cena was masterful. We have to believe it

  • @doclank3d6
    @doclank3d6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was weird that for about a year, John Cena and the Rock called each other gay on live tv

  • @MorganFreemansFavoriteFreckle
    @MorganFreemansFavoriteFreckle ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wrestlemania 27 will always hold a special place in my heart. I watched it when was young so I still thought wrestling was real. It was magical.

  • @spiritsplice
    @spiritsplice ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Contrived rivals because everyone good in the business at that time has already left.

  • @Batony
    @Batony ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jim has to realize most people only care about Lawler’s commentary career with WWE. Not too many people give a shit about what he did in Memphis.

    • @imusingsocialistmedia3014
      @imusingsocialistmedia3014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is BS and you know it. You should say most people under 30 and it would make more sense.

    • @Batony
      @Batony ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imusingsocialistmedia3014 Outside of Memphis and that territory, no one cared about Jerry Lawler in ring work. Far from BS.

    • @imusingsocialistmedia3014
      @imusingsocialistmedia3014 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Batony lol

  • @losangeleswrestling5300
    @losangeleswrestling5300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I figured out freddie was a wrestling fan I was hyped. Even more exciting to know he was a writer during one of my favorite times

    • @d.52555
      @d.52555 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And if you’re a fan of Jeff hardy then you’ll be even more excited because Freddie was the main (and pretty much only one) that was pulling for Jeff to win the wwe title in 2008.

    • @losangeleswrestling5300
      @losangeleswrestling5300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@d.52555 love hearing that. I honestly wish Freddie was bigger in the wrestling scene or Hollywood today. Seems like a such a genuine dude

  • @gatesofwrestling
    @gatesofwrestling ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His morning Russo!😂😂😂

  • @bradvestby
    @bradvestby ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I stopped watching wrestling from 2007 to 2014 because I hated John Cena.. I missed this entire feud.. I'm glad he's only back for one match a year now..

    • @bradvestby
      @bradvestby ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MaestroAlessandro99... but you couldn't help but acknowledge me now that I'm back hey!? 🤘
      The industry needs marks like you bro.

    • @bradvestby
      @bradvestby ปีที่แล้ว

      @MaestroAlessandro99 Bradley?!
      You love me don't you? That's cool, but a lil' weird for someone you to just throw themselves at me on TH-cam.. I'll take the compliment! .. good on you though for putting yourself out there though I guess 🤷‍♂️

    • @bradvestby
      @bradvestby ปีที่แล้ว

      @MaestroAlessandro99 no one at all... except you! 👌

    • @bradvestby
      @bradvestby ปีที่แล้ว

      And your interest is appreciated too.. your probably a good guy, but there are other apps for online dating bro..
      You can't even say thats not your intention now either.. your crush just keeps you commenting! Lol.. must be hard being cooped up in your moms basement all the time, but my advice is to try Tinder dude. You'll probably get the reaction you were originally looking for there instead..

  • @Milan_N13
    @Milan_N13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Rock > John Cena.