Jim Cornette on If Tully Blanchard Would Have Been A Good NWA Champion

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
  • Listen to the Jim Cornette Experience each Thursday and Jim Cornette's Drive Thru each Monday on iTunes, Stitcher, Podcast Addict, iHeartRadio, and everywhere else podcasts are available!
    Visit JimCornette.com for the latest Jim Cornette news and Cornette's Collectables merchandise!

ความคิดเห็น • 169

  • @djay6651
    @djay6651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Imagine being the wrong guy for something because your too real of a guy.

  • @TheLuscious
    @TheLuscious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Notice that Tully never had a bad title run and he enhanced every belt he ever had.

  • @freedomisntfree2089
    @freedomisntfree2089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Tully was a great high class heel, could really get a lot of heat, I remember watching the Magnum vs Tully stuff, Tully was so easy to hate lol

  • @oldschoolfan420
    @oldschoolfan420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The ONLY guy to use the slingshot suplex as a finisher........ Bully Tully Blanchard.

  • @Murph_.
    @Murph_. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hilarious that Jim says what I've thought for years... Tully is Flair Lite, basically. I love Flair, my all time favorite wrestler. I was always a heel fan. Tully was also a favorite of mine before the Four Horsemen started up. He, like Flair, always seemed to have a championship belt. Like Flair, everyone HATED him (maybe hated Tully more than Ric, to be honest). Like Flair, he was great in the ring and was the perfect heel. He was also very good on the mike. I'd say great, if I was to grade on a curve, because, you know, Flair and Dusty were a step above everyone else. No one could talk like those two could, and I put Flair even one step higher than Dusty. If there was never a Flair, I think Tully could have made a good champion, because he could really stir up the heat, and he had the ability in the ring.

  • @spectrumlocalb191
    @spectrumlocalb191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    TULLY AND GINO HERNANDEZ WERE MEANT TO BE CHAMPION.

  • @timsullivan702
    @timsullivan702 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I think so. It’s a shame Tully’s career was derailed by cocaine...

    • @michaelhunziker7287
      @michaelhunziker7287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They singled Tully out. More guys were on the powder than weren't

  • @terryg995
    @terryg995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That's it, His arrogance just made you want to go to the arena just to see him get his ass kicked.

  • @bigearl33
    @bigearl33 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Tully and Arn are still my Farorite Tag Team of all time !!!

    • @colonelrobertsjr.7882
      @colonelrobertsjr.7882 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      bigearl33 Brain Busters!! 👉😉

    • @matthewsmith4647
      @matthewsmith4647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best all time. Hated them til puberty. Then loved them lol

    • @Grassyknolldallas
      @Grassyknolldallas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you like beer bellies and midgets then that’s the tag team for you bro.

    • @141runn
      @141runn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the biggest douche bag team of all time.

  • @drewstar8611
    @drewstar8611 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Tully would’ve been great.... Tully had real heat and was generally disliked. Flair was so outgoing and great on the mic that people more often than not cheered him. Tully was hated by everyone!! Lol
    And that fact that he was ‘so small’ would’ve got him more heat. Coz everyone would’ve believed they could whoop him.

  • @HeyYo8
    @HeyYo8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The Slingshot Suplex executed by Tully was pure excellence

    • @maraviyoso8473
      @maraviyoso8473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The fact that no one else has used it as a finisher says a lot, although Nikki Cross' finisher looks a bit like his.

  • @shanecochran1969
    @shanecochran1969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Tully Blanchard would've been a great NWA champion !! To darn bad it never happened, Tully and Flair had a short feud in the Mid-Atlantic area back in 1984 !!

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back then Flair was teetering between baby face and heel. I been watching a lot of NWA super station TBS videos on TH-cam from that time period, Flair from 1981 to mid 1985 could have went either way, but Tully was always a cantankerous prick and the best cantankerous prick there ever was, he was a better heel than Flair. The trailer park hated Tully like no other, Jim Cornette was about the closest second to him but he was a manager.

  • @battlestarmarc
    @battlestarmarc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Tully was a great heel.
    Tully would have been a good name champ.
    Tully was great at aggravating people.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tully could set the trailer park on fire just with one of his sneers

  • @joeyrko1
    @joeyrko1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tully vs Magnum T.A was one of the absolute best feuds ever!! It’s what really got me to become a true wrestling fan

  • @minion278
    @minion278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tully was my favorite Horseman, and my favorite TV champ.

  • @jokerjack2913
    @jokerjack2913 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Tully would have been a great champion. Tully would not have been a great babyface champion or not. Tully was a great technician and ring gerneral. He was a real heatseeker and dedicated to his craft. Lots of respect for Tully.

  • @Jackalblade9
    @Jackalblade9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    If Flair never went into wrestling, Tully would have made a good champion, but Tully following Flair as champion would have been like Flair Lite, I think. Very similar character, possibly a better worker than Flair, but not as much charisma and not as good of a look.

    • @ReginaldForman
      @ReginaldForman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jackalblade9 very well put. I can take it a generation further, and support your comment further, by saying the same about Flair and Rogers

    • @CatsClaw44
      @CatsClaw44 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great call, I agree.

    • @horsemanhammer1348
      @horsemanhammer1348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jackalblade9,you never saw Gino Hernandez. He was a mirror image of Ric Flair in charisma,style & class. Gino was a true brawler in the ring UNLIKE flair who was on knees begging for mercy. Gino was the Greatest heel of all time. Thats My view & opinion

  • @nicktucker3437
    @nicktucker3437 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jim has nailed this, Tully wouldn't have been a good follow for Flair, he'd been great for a 60s or 70s champ

  • @joeygana8864
    @joeygana8864 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tully would of been a great World Champion, Great Heel, reason I started watching in the Summer of 84.

  • @kevinwilkins7524
    @kevinwilkins7524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Alot of People forget before the Horsemen began Tully & Ric had a short Fued ,When Ric was a face he ripped Flair's clothes off on National TV in 1984

    • @HeyYo8
      @HeyYo8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I seen that on 4wrestlingfans youtube channel

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HeyYo8 I seen it there too, in fact just a couple weeks ago

    • @madbrowniac7871
      @madbrowniac7871 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Practically everyone forgets that Tully Blanchard toured JCP TWICE! In 1978 (only a few short years removed from being All Missouri Valley Conference as a Quarterback and Punter at then West Texas State) Tully ran afoul of the very dangerous tandem of Ric Flair & Greg Valentine.🤔🎤🏈🤼‍♂️B.W.

  • @maraviyoso8473
    @maraviyoso8473 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In other words, Tully would've been a Texas Style Flair. In 80's WWE, he would've been a PERFECT (no pun intended) IC champion.

  • @justinbrown8332
    @justinbrown8332 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Going by that old school NWA World Champ template, Tully was NWA World Champion material. Great technician, great heel, great talker. From there he wasn't a big guy. Or a muscle guy. But he had a great playboy type of look. So Tully was actually one of the best total packages in that mid 80's timeframe. For all intents and purposes, the younger guys most similar to Flair (Tully) and Harley (Arn) were in the Horsemen with Naitch himself. That's what made the Horsemen so great. U had FOUR GUYS who were NWA World Champ material under that old school template. It's just that Flair is the greatest total package of all time. And had that TRANSCENDANT type of charisma to rep the grittier NWA. While Hogan was perfect for what Vince wanted up north.
    So it was all about timing. As great of a total package as Tully was, guys like Flair and Savage were even better total packages at that time. They had a better look and more IT FACTOR than Tully. EVEN THOUGH Tully had major IT FACTOR too. It would have took Flair leaving the company or turning face for Tully to get a world title reign in the mid to late 80's NWA. And I don't think Tully would have been a great babyface so that wouldn't have worked either.

  • @walterbrown2997
    @walterbrown2997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking back unfortunately Tully Blanchard SHOULD have gotten a chance to wrestle Flair for that original 10 lb of gold Tully a mat strategist and with that slingshot suplex early on he did wrestle Ric Flair but instead Tully became the heel to wrestle against Wahoo McDaniel and Magnum TA and Dusty Rhodes Tully was underrated

  • @greengorilla6699
    @greengorilla6699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tully got black balled

  • @lastmansleeping5433
    @lastmansleeping5433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tully Blanchard = Heel Jack Briscoe

  • @Okenshield69
    @Okenshield69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tully would have been an amazing NWA champion. Magnum/Dusty/Sting babyface NWA champions weren't as good, because the long-term champ was best a heel, so that the regional superstar could feud with them. Also, Tully wasn't a big guy, so the regional studs could throw him around and beat him up and he could make anyone look great. Tully was perfect as a heel, his natural arrogance made him despised.
    He would have been a great champ, but the reality is, no one could have been better in the role than Flair was.

  • @KastleKrossface
    @KastleKrossface 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jim, you ARE a Wrestling genius. Loved yah since Saturday's @ 6:05. To this day, You and The Midnight Express are the greatest.

  • @joehilner4830
    @joehilner4830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've always thought Tully could create more heat than Flair.

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It should have been Barry, he could do far more in the ring than Sting

  • @philipferrante3717
    @philipferrante3717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok so instead of Ole being kicked out of the horsemen have tully kicked out instead make him babyface to face ric flair for the title. You could have put just about anyone in that role as a horsemen besides luger. Dusty could have been a horsemen ronnie garvin brad armstrong tim horner even bill dundee.

    • @bookmark7859
      @bookmark7859 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/D--oOBjrdMc/w-d-xo.html This is when the spit happened. It is shown in the first 90 sec of clip.
      Tully could piss off anyone.
      Anyone.
      And... Tim Horner as a Horsemen is just... wow... um... no.
      Same with the others.

  • @michellelincoln9987
    @michellelincoln9987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so Tully Blanchard was basically Ric Flair without the flair 🤣

    • @DaylinThaGemini
      @DaylinThaGemini 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flair's promo style was similar to Tully's. Tully was Flair's template if you ask me. Flair just, again, added some flair.

  • @Panwere36
    @Panwere36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ric Flair was not the biggest heel in NWA/JCP. Tully Blanchard was the heart and soul of the Four Horsemen, and made the group the hot heel faction they were. The greatest irony is that his daughter is more of a success than he was.

  • @tiffanycarter5432
    @tiffanycarter5432 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tully would have been a great heel champion, people would've paid big money to see him get beat up night after night. If Magnum hadn't gotten hurt, him vs Tully for the title would've been $$$$

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If that would have happen the NWA could have still been in business today and never had to be swallowed up by Ted Turner.

  • @CatsClaw44
    @CatsClaw44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Corny tends to lose focus on these questions. 😄 Tully would have been a great NWA World Champion even if it was just a Ronnie Garvin or Ricky Steamboat length champion in the 80s. Even with Flair. Because Blanchard early on WAS about flash and excess. He wore robes and expensive suits and had an organization called "Tully Blanchard Enterprises" with JJ Dillion. That was essentially the precursor to the Four Horsemen. And people keep comparing him to Flair but he was different, unlike Flair, Tully got legit heel heat. He was a true heel, no one cheered him. Any babyface chasing Tully would have been white hot. They wouldn't have had their heat partially siphoned from them like they would have in a Flair match where part of the crowd was cheering Flair.

    • @chrischar9428
      @chrischar9428 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's the fucking point

  • @brianlogan4243
    @brianlogan4243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tully was great, maybe the best regional heel of his era. He has more wins over Dusty than anyone but Flair. But...he didnt have the size or overall ability to work heel or face. Flair had more flash and charisma. Jim says it best.

  • @TheLuscious
    @TheLuscious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A great National Heavyweight Champion
    A great World Television Champion
    A great US Heavyweight Champion
    A great World Tag Team Champion
    Tully Blanchard should be in the Hall of Fame twice

  • @leeberry689
    @leeberry689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just can't picture Tully as a babyface, he created so much heat as a heel if it weren't for FLAIR being champ he would have made a good world champion because he could do it all. This coming from a man who didn't like Tully at all.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look back to 1983 when Flair was teetering between face and heel, Buddy Landel was being groomed to take on Flair, Tully was TV Champ and National Champ. If Landel didn't flame out I could see where Tully could have stepped in and took the World Championship and stayed the heel that was his trademark. Tully was nothing but a heel his entire professional career, where Flair played the baby face on many occasions in the 70's and early 80's.

    • @leeberry689
      @leeberry689 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oveidasinclair982 first time I saw Tully Blanchard was in the late 70's on championship wrestling from Florida, he and Skip Young were a baby face tag team for about a year then they both left. Tully went to Texas & Skip briefly came to mid Atlantic then Memphis and mid south. I think Tully turned heel when he hooked up with Gino Hernandez.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leeberry689 I never knew Tully wrestled in Florida back then, I always thought he stuck around his father promotion as a heel

    • @leeberry689
      @leeberry689 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oveidasinclair982 Tully and Skip were college football teammates and they were so close they decided to go into wrestling together. They debuted in Florida for Eddie Graham.

  • @bizil100
    @bizil100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In general, Tully fit the template of the old school NWA World Champ. In a sense, YES he was like a smaller, dark haired version of Flair. Tully was more athletic than Flair. And since he was a heel, I ACTUALLY think he held back parts of his potential moveset. If anything it's pecking order. ANYTIME u have a prime Ric Flair in the NWA, u gotta roll with his as the long term champ. BUT that doesn't take anything away from Tully either. When it comes to that cocky heel technician who also a playboy with swag, Flair and Tully are BOTH on the Mt. Rushmore. Guys back in the day like Rogers and Bock didn't talk about the playboy lifestyle in their promos. EVEN THOUGH u would think by their look and swag that they were. IT was really Flair, Tully, and GIno who put that shit on the map back in the day!

  • @kwmusic4560
    @kwmusic4560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cornette is wrong here. Tully would've been an amazing NWA champion in any era.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My dad was a big Tully fan, but even he said that Tully was too small for the late 80's to 90's wrestling era. Tully advertised he was 236 pounds, but was lucky if he tip the scales at 215, he was only 5'10". Tully wasn't a Roided up monster and that is what the wrestling world wanted at that time, Flair was taller and was also juicing up like others his size, like Macho Man, Sting, Steamboat,. My opinion is that Tully was one of, if not the greatest Heel pricks ever in professional wrestling, he could set the trailer park on fire every night, but at that time and in that place he wasn't big enough.

  • @daleth119
    @daleth119 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think with all the stories Jim Cornette has, It would make an intersting movie one day for sure. I'd watch it anyway.

  • @RobbaKeef
    @RobbaKeef 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was Ronnie Garvin before Sting I believe at least for a minute

  • @shakeandjake_1
    @shakeandjake_1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tully Blanchard in ROH era would be fantastic as a champion

  • @bizil100
    @bizil100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once Flair decided to go to the WWF in 1991, getting Tully a world title run could have worked. They stripped Flair of the title as it was. Have Tully become the new leader of the Horsemen and win the world title. The HUGE DIFFERENCE would be Sid debuting as a Horsemen in a Tully vs. Sting or Lex match for the vacant title. And helping Tully win the gold. So the group would have went from Flair-Barry-Tully-Arn to Tully-Sid-Barry-Arn. With Ole and Woman as the manager-valet. This is of course if WCW DIDN'T pull Tully's offer in late 1989.

  • @meavid
    @meavid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely. Two words: slingshot suplex.

    • @oxcarthabu
      @oxcarthabu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A horrible finishing move.

  • @robertvaught6541
    @robertvaught6541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was an arrogant pick even in San Antonio. Late 79 80

  • @holden3
    @holden3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tully sniff sniff blanchard!

  • @masterofkungfu7697
    @masterofkungfu7697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    World television champion

  • @DavidLucas-oj6ju
    @DavidLucas-oj6ju 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tully Blanchard was incredible technical wrestler and best heels in wrestling

  • @holden3
    @holden3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tully scarface blanchard

  • @matthewsmith4647
    @matthewsmith4647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bad timing for Tully. After the Dusty/Flair/Sting cycle , Vader debuted and shook everything up.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And than the roided up 275+ pound Mongoloids took over wrestling

  • @rodneyholmes9332
    @rodneyholmes9332 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would've liked to see Tully get a run with it. Perhaps he could've beaten Dusty at the Bash in 86' , or faced him at Starcade. Or maybe set up Flair vs Tully, with Flair as the face . He deserved a shot.

  • @holden3
    @holden3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tully was a believable gimmick

  • @redberry3852
    @redberry3852 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He would have made a great champion even if he would have won it from Flair who was already that character lol it still would have worked folks... thanks... GOD BLESS !!!

  • @darrinh.2322
    @darrinh.2322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Him and Baby Doll as his manager would have been great !!

  • @hayesc0
    @hayesc0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One time machine coming right up Jim.

  • @salaam1st
    @salaam1st 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tully and flair had the same gimmick pretty much

  • @windymcgee6833
    @windymcgee6833 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's so full of shit. Tully should've stayed with Gino, number one. Two, he should've stayed on his own or in a duo because he was lost in the crowd in the horsemen. He was awesome in SW, and regardless of size, he had IT. This is the idiot that tried to sell Dennis Condrey and 'Beautiful' Bobby Eaton. LOL. There was nothing beautiful there. There wasn't an ounce of charisma between them. The guy couldn't draw flies. Sorry, it's the truth.

  • @RedfishCarolina
    @RedfishCarolina 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Disagree with Cornette here, respectfully. Tully was an absolute heat generator, was entertaining, and a great talent. The ONE thing is that he would have HAD to have defeated Flair for the belt. Tully always lived in the shadow of Flair and would have needed to prove to the fans that he could legitimately defeat Flair.
    If he could defeat Flair clean in the ring (which he wouldn't do with a slingshot suplex), he would have been a great champion to pass the belt to Sting.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back in 1985 the NWA was actually grooming Nature Boy Buddy Landel to take on and beat Flair, back in 84-85 Flair was sitting on the fence for being a heel, or a baby face. If Buddy Landel didn't self destruct and took Flairs belt, Magnum, or Dusty could have easily knocked him off and Tully could have took the world title from one of them because he had beaten both Magnum and Dusty before.

  • @seanbuchanan966
    @seanbuchanan966 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would have loved to see it. AWA world champ maybe cause his dad was there. World class champ due to his connection to Texas. He had the ability to be a world champion anywhere.

  • @graefe827
    @graefe827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No way could the Four Horseman be a cohesive unit with anyone other than Flair as WC. Flair would have turned on whatever other Horseman was champion--it would be out of his character if he didn't.

    • @jayharris611
      @jayharris611 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just like triple h in evolution

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But in 1984/85 there was no Four Horseman, JJ was managing Nature Boy Buddy Landel and Flair back then was teetering on the fence of being a heel, or a baby face. In an early 85 video Uncle Ivan and the Russians brutalized the Rock and Roll Express in the ring, Flair and mob of other baby faces came rushing out of the locker rooms to save them. Early 1985 Flair was a quasi baby face.

  • @vestel777
    @vestel777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Talking about dancing and Seinfeld I remember that weird dance that Elaine did and it was referred to as a Full Body Dry Heave LOL LOL LOL.

  • @azapro911
    @azapro911 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the ring, he'd have been a credible champion. Problem is, he'd have lasted about four defenses before falling out with the NWA board. 😂

  • @FuzzyWuzzy75
    @FuzzyWuzzy75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I anticipate future collaborations between Jim Cornette and Stewie Griffin on time travel projects.

  • @cretinousjester3475
    @cretinousjester3475 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not as long as the Horsemen were around. Tully and Arn were pillars of the Horsemen that can not and would not turn on the group. Don't get me wrong- he had the tools but not the setting nor circumstances.

  • @nicktucker3437
    @nicktucker3437 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was a legit review of Tully, following flair would have been difficult for him since he was not as deliberately flashy like Flair was..or as Jim says he is too real.

  • @MrChristopherHaas
    @MrChristopherHaas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a storyline it would have made ifTully or Arn hit the title while with Flair/Horsemen.

  • @eddiedebartalo5985
    @eddiedebartalo5985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tully Blanchard would have been great in WWF attitude era

  • @larryfloyd4993
    @larryfloyd4993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so what jim cornette is saying , is tully Blanchard ..is nick bockwinkle

    • @HeyYo8
      @HeyYo8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol

  • @robzilla730
    @robzilla730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's Tully doing now?

  • @jonalbertson10270
    @jonalbertson10270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe had Tully been in a different Promotion he’d have been a great “Heel” Champion. But curtailing Ric Flair at that time would have been a disaster.

    • @bizil100
      @bizil100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      EXACTLY!! When you have a prime Flair as the heel World Champ, you roll with that FOR SURE! When you throw the Horsemen dynamic on top of it, that's icing on the cake. IF you know pro wrestling, we ALL KNOW Tully was World title caliber in general. It was just a matter of timing. The face he was a heel AND a Horsemen, he wasn't getting a world title reign at that point in time. When Flair left for the WWF in the early 90's and IF Tully was in WCW, maybe he gets a title reign. Before the Vader vs. Sting thing really took off.
      And IF the AWA would have stayed strong into the 90's, that could have been the ideal spot for Tully to be a World Champion. Once he and Arn left the WWF, and WCW reneged on their deal with Tully due to the positive cocaine test, Tully could have went to the AWA to get a reign. But the AWA was on its ass by then pretty much, so being AWA World Champ didn't mean much.
      And if Tully went to AWA INSTEAD of Crockett in the mid 80's, he misses out on the Horsemen run. For me, that wouldn't have been worth it. I would rather be the US or TV Champ with Crockett and a Horsemen THAT the AWA World Champ in the mid 80's. The AWA was slowly heading down while Crockett was getting hotter and hotter!

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Problem is that by the late 80's a lot of those promotions were going bankrupt, or swallowed up, WCCW, UWF, AWA, Memphis Wrestling was going down hill. Cable television brought all the other promotions to the people, but also lead to the smaller promotions downfall.

    • @madbrowniac7871
      @madbrowniac7871 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tully Blanchard eventually toured The AWA in the very early Nineties and teamed with Larry Zbyszko.🤔🎤🏈🤼‍♂️B.W.

  • @DocLeggz
    @DocLeggz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL, how much you want to bet he'd send a hitman to the 80's after Jim Herd?

  • @michaelhunziker7287
    @michaelhunziker7287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tully didn't need the belt. He was that good

  • @georgeelmerdenbrough6906
    @georgeelmerdenbrough6906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People did not want to see him as champ back then because everyone was convinced they could whip his ass in a fight ..that and being only 5'9" back then did not work .

  • @gregorykrug8034
    @gregorykrug8034 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How big was Tully? 5'10" and 210 pounds?

    • @stevep4574
      @stevep4574 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tim Allen 5' 10" 220-230 sorry

    • @darrenporsch
      @darrenporsch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevep4574 please that was his listed height and weight. that's like saying Sylvester Stallone is really 5'10" & Tom Cruise is 5'8" give me a break

    • @stevep4574
      @stevep4574 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darrenporsch 5 10 sounds right

    • @darrenporsch
      @darrenporsch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevep4574 yeah maybe with 2 inch lifts in his shoes

    • @stevep4574
      @stevep4574 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darrenporsch He'll give you the slingshot suplex😠

  • @robintaylor4249
    @robintaylor4249 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m Curious how they were decide who would be champion and who would never ever be champion.

  • @mrpetco1976
    @mrpetco1976 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what the hell was the extra advantage of the slingshot suplex? it's like feet on the ropes or pulling the tights.

  • @bizil100
    @bizil100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Basically, it's just a timing issue in this situation. The fact Tully was the caliber to be an NWA World Champion says it all. There weren't watered down world heavyweight champs back in the day. U had to a huge box office draw guy OR an elite in ring talent OVER ENOUGH to be a world champion. Tully would fit the 2nd category to a tee. BUT Flair was a great fit for BOTH of those categories! That's why the NWA World Title stayed on Flair for so long. Flair and Savage were the top two total packages in wrestling in that mid 80's to early 90's time period. Tully's IT FACTOR wasn't as high as those guys. In ring wise, he was on their level. Most athletic than Flair. And a better technician than Savage. And was great on the mic as well. If Flair was Kobe, Tully was D Wade back in the day. Many of the same tools and were in the same era, just smaller and a bit less IT FACTOR to transcend the sport!

  • @bizil100
    @bizil100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tully's best bet to be a world champ in the 80's would have been in a revamped AWA WORTH staying in. In other words, an AWA ready to adapt to the national scene and STICK AROUND long term as a true, viable, productive #3 company. Once Bock was getting older, Tully could have been THE HEEL to build around. We all know Tully was a great total package. Probably one of the top 10 in all of wrestling at one point in the 80's. BUT when u have a peak Ric Flair in your company, NO HEEL was going to be a long term world champ at that point. And RIGHTFULLY so.
    From there, Tully was a Horsemen and MEANT to be a heel. But in general Tully WAS SEEN by fans as a main event caliber talent. And ALWAYS was drippin in gold. At this point, the top five singles titles in wrestling were WWF World Title, NWA World Title, IC Title, US Title, and TV Title. So I would have RATHER BEEN a US or TV champ in the NWA than the AWA World Champ. AWA was losing its luster as the 80's progressed.
    Sometimes it's NOT ABOUT being a world champ. It's about being seen BY THE FANS and YOUR PEERS as main event caliber on a deep roster. Tully NO DOUBT was in that class! BUT he's was for sure one of the better all around talents to never win a world title. Arn for that matter would fit in that same boat! They IN TURN made the US, TV, National, and World Tag Belts so DAMN PRESTIGIOUS!!!

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A World Champ is still a World Champ, Larry Zbyszko had the AWA title tied up when he married Vern's daughter. If Buddy Landel didn't flame out when he did they would have turned Flair a baby face and Buddy would have had a title run with Tully having a shot at it then, but that is a lot of what if's. Tully would have worked in the early 80's and 70's, but he was lucky to have tilted the scales at 220 pounds and he was only 5'10", just too small in the Roided up world of the late 80's & 90's. Also remember that Flair was roided up too and taller.

  • @piperar2014
    @piperar2014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tully got a raw deal over the failed drug test. Cocaine? If every athlete that did cocaine in the 80s was suspended, sports would lose half their rosters. Players would be called up from double-A minors to replace Dwight Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, and Keith Hernandez. And what was the joke, if William Perry and Lawrence Taylor were on the same team you would have a Coke machine next to the refrigerator. Why wasn't Tully brought back to WCW I wondered, until I learned it was Jim Herd that pulled the offer, which explains everything.
    I'm not in a position to have an opinion if this put Tully on a better path or if he's doing good in the world. That's between Tully and God. I will say that going from wrestling to religion is a logical progression. Religion has even more marks, the marks are dumber, and they refuse to be smartened. One promotion admitted wrestling is scripted and it killed kayfabe for all of wrestling. If one church admits religion is all about the money, it wouldn't affect a single mark outside that one church and probably not those either.

  • @Mister_Phafanapolis
    @Mister_Phafanapolis 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn! That's a good offer Corny is throwing out there on the time machine marketing. Gotta take him up on that. haha.

  • @keithsterling433
    @keithsterling433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    tully blanchard was the best second banana to ric flair on the heel side, like magnum ta and barry was to dusty rhodes on the babyface side.

  • @JAVIERORTEGON-g2x
    @JAVIERORTEGON-g2x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MR. CORNETTE I STRONGLY DISAGREE ! TULLY BLANCHARD WOULD HAVE MADE A BETTER NWA CHAMPION BETTER THAN RIC FLAIR ! TULLY BLANCHARD WAS THE U.S. HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION / NATIONAL HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION / WORLD TELEVISION CHAMPION AND WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPION IN JIM CROCKETT PROMOTIONS ! IN SAN ANTONIO TEXAS HE WAS A MULTIPLE TIME SOUTHWEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION ! TULLY WAS BETTER THAN RIC FLAIR ! HIS FEUDS WITH CHIEF WAHOO MC DANIELS AND DUSTY RHODES WERE UNFORGETTABLE !

  • @mrbobevans
    @mrbobevans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tully was just too small. Period.

  • @Mr.Majestic77
    @Mr.Majestic77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have been a better NWA 🌎 Champion:
    (1) Tully Blanchard,
    (2) Dr. Death Steve Williams,
    (3) Gino Hernandez,
    (4) Ted DiBease,
    (5) Brad Armstrong,
    or
    (6) The Bullet Bob Armstrong

    • @mikewilson413
      @mikewilson413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tully and DiBiase would both have been great NWA champions. Dr. Death was a great champion in UWF/MidSouth, but probably wouldn't have been a great NWA champ.

    • @walterbrown2997
      @walterbrown2997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      7 Arn Anderson the Spinebuster

  • @horsemanhammer1348
    @horsemanhammer1348 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Tully would've been a good NWA Champion,but NOTHING like what Gino Hernandez wouldve been. Gino was equally as talented in the ring & on the mic as Flair. Gino was more hated than flair,he wouldve brought much more heat as NWA World Champion. That's My opinion.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Gino never OD on coke he would have been locked away for dealing, Gino Hernandez was a highly talented wrestler, but outside of the ring he was a dirty no good criminal piece of shit.

    • @horsemanhammer1348
      @horsemanhammer1348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oveidasinclair982 you're probably hating on Gino because he's the kind of Horseman who would reject a woman like you! Stop hating,he's dead and can't respond. Show some respect,fool!! My opinion.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@horsemanhammer1348 If you would read up a little on his outside of the ring activities you might just see him in a different light, he wasn't an injured, or washed up wrestler, he was a piece of shit drug dealer when he wasn't wrestling.

    • @horsemanhammer1348
      @horsemanhammer1348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oveidasinclair982 there are certainly many professional athletes throughout the decades that have gone that route. I don't judge them or disrespect them for their habits. You,just like everyone else has bad habits like drinking alcohol,smoking or other things that are bad for you. None of us are perfect. Gino would've been a perfect 4 Horsemen,and he would've looked good wearing the NWA World Heavyweight Title belt. Its just a shame we were robbed of that because of his bad habits. Point being is that we all have bad habits!! My opinion.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@horsemanhammer1348 Drug abuse is a habit, over drinking is a habit, a lot of wrestlers fall into that category, drug/cocaine dealing on the level of kilos is NOT a habit, it's a felony criminal activity. You can't make excuses for shit like that. Drug use I can easily over look, a lot of those wrestlers back then were nursing injuries and wrestling 4-6 times a week and coke use, opioids and steroids are how most of them were able to make it, no excuse other than being a total POS when it comes to kilo level coke dealer.

  • @doctorfeelfunny584
    @doctorfeelfunny584 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tag-team and secondary championships fit better on Tully. Phenomenal worker, but too small and generally not a World champion type.

  • @mikebowermaster8513
    @mikebowermaster8513 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dusty Rhodes thought that only Flair should be champion for long, and sting had zero talent. Eventually, sting got backlash for how much he was ridiculously pushed.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sting really was too green, but Magnum was dead, Dusty was getting old and definitely hurting physically, Nikita just never had the mic talent

  • @davidmurray9513
    @davidmurray9513 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He was a Lil too short. He was great as U.S champ and the tag belts . Money, money! Everybody wants money! Lol (horseman DVD )

    • @Jim-Tuner
      @Jim-Tuner 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He won the US belt from Magnum TA in 1985 leading to the famous "I quit" match at Starrcade 1985 where he lost it.

    • @CatsClaw44
      @CatsClaw44 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was like a pinch shorter than Flair.

  • @ghostfarmer358
    @ghostfarmer358 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Arn before Tully in my time machine

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No way, Tully had way more experience than Arn and was a cantankerous Prick, where Arn could have turned on Ole and become an instant Baby Face, no way Tully could have been anyone other than Cantankerous Prick Tully

  • @triplesixsdc8193
    @triplesixsdc8193 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    40%?? You crook!

  • @JardoniJovonovich
    @JardoniJovonovich 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes....a little small though

  • @sportbilly2008
    @sportbilly2008 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard Jim mention Nick Aldis as the current NWA champion. Has Jim talked about the current #tenpoundsofgold TH-cam series?

  • @danielcastillo4537
    @danielcastillo4537 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely not. Flair set the bar way too high. Incidentally I much preferred him with Gorgeous Gino Hernandez and he, Tully Blanchard The Champagne Kid as the Dynamic Duo.

  • @darrenporsch
    @darrenporsch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tully Blanchard was five foot nothing a hundred nothing. He would have been lucky to make it with the luchadors in the light heavyweights. Would have been way too small to be believable as world

  • @jonstrickland4848
    @jonstrickland4848 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The world champion should always be able to wrestle. This was where wrestling killed itself. I loved Tully but he couldn’t wrestle a damn lick. Put the sport back in wrestling and they will come.

  • @theferryman4916
    @theferryman4916 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let me translate all this: "He was too small"

  • @greedyd5524
    @greedyd5524 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    No. He was good but not great and didn’t put asses in the seats

    • @jessemathes5126
      @jessemathes5126 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes he did. Tully would be a GREAT NWA Champion.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spoken like someone who's never watched anything prior to 2010.

  • @Old_Mansplaining
    @Old_Mansplaining ปีที่แล้ว

    It was always funny to me that babydoll was a foot taller then Tully .

  • @MrMgakaf
    @MrMgakaf ปีที่แล้ว

    Tully was the 2 nd best heel of all time assassin no1 was the best imo