Bonus Drive Thru: Jim Cornette on Starrcade '86 & Scaffold Matches

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  • @erronblack1
    @erronblack1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Jim is one of the few guys in wrestling who can tell a story for the millionth time and make it interesting.

    • @garyk6079
      @garyk6079 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So true Cornette is the man, one of my fav wrestling personalities of all time. I never really cared for any of the scaffold matches. The build to this match was awesome though.

    • @jeffreyriley8742
      @jeffreyriley8742 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And I will listen to it a million times and always be entertained!

  • @sharkbait8090
    @sharkbait8090 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    "Jimmy you fell so fast!"

  • @mymneisadj
    @mymneisadj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    how did I hate this guy so much when I was a kid and love him so much now

    • @seansmith2819
      @seansmith2819 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      dj johnson fCuz he was a great f'n heel. Lol

    • @tiatrips
      @tiatrips 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He did his job when he was managing then.

    • @snakeman6124
      @snakeman6124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cause he did his job 😊❤

    • @paulsydenham7853
      @paulsydenham7853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because he was the guy you loved to hate,Best of All Time, could listen to him all day 😃.

    • @russstiles4308
      @russstiles4308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I used to cuss at my house when he was on my TV

  • @saxmaniac7
    @saxmaniac7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    even though he got hurt with this fall, It made him a legend.

    • @ricosalvaje5802
      @ricosalvaje5802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most injuries add legitimacy and make the wrestler look tougher. Like stone cold in 1997.

    • @saxmaniac7
      @saxmaniac7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ricosalvaje5802 true.

  • @wwltd3036
    @wwltd3036 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    When the girl fell from the ride at Six Flags the other day I had a Starcade 86 flashback. She's hanging there and all I can hear in my head is Dusty say'n "Kick ya feet out baby and they'll catchya like the girl at the football game baby"

    • @deejprice3049
      @deejprice3049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂😂😂 dude you are one true wrestling fan! On a 2nd note, is the girl ok?

    • @lilHippo
      @lilHippo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deejprice3049 no, shes dead. she fell from a roller coster 300 ft in the air.

    • @deejprice3049
      @deejprice3049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lilHippo well fuck

    • @whidoineedthis
      @whidoineedthis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lilHippo the only ride im terrified of but still get on, is the Giant Swings😪 im scared that bitch will break off an go sailing into the horizon. I wont try the bungee one tho. The one that shoots you straight up in the air and you bounce back n forth...im good

  • @ronodell2935
    @ronodell2935 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cornette is the best. Can listen to this dude for hours. And believe everything he talks about.

  • @KeitaroYevon
    @KeitaroYevon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Bubba was high as a kite that night and that was the reason he didn't catch Jim.

    • @Vikashar
      @Vikashar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Both of you fell so fast Jim"

  • @deejprice3049
    @deejprice3049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a wrestling fan who grew up in the 80s, I could only imagine being stuck in an elevator for 8 hours with just one other person: Jim Cornette. That would be the best day of my life

  • @j_mad
    @j_mad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jimmy you fell so fast OMG 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mackmcgowan316
    @mackmcgowan316 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Never understood the popularity of a scaffold match in the early days tbh but that's just me

    • @SonnyBubba
      @SonnyBubba 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The heels drew so much heat back then the fans were literally paying for the possibility of seeing one of them get thrown off one of those things.

    • @Ramekink
      @Ramekink 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The first hell in a cell came to be in the late 90s (HBK vs Taker in '97) so up until then there weren't any other instances of taking a bump from that high up BESIDES cage matches, but even then there's just so many ways you can produce a bump like that: 1) Shaking/tackling the cage while your opponent is sitting on top leg spread/as they're holding onto the ledge; or 2) Back and forth fist fighting while sitting on top till one of them drops dead. Whereas with scaffold matches there were multiple other ways to take a bump, be it like the midnights and corny on this match or taking a body back drop, etc

  • @ms.felonystrutter2472
    @ms.felonystrutter2472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was fortunate to see the Skywalkers match live in Philly Jan 1987. I ordered the Starcade 86 shirt and wore it that night.. Part of me wished I still had it but I sold it for $325. That Thanksgiving was HORRIBLE because it was the first time since 1979 my beloved Cowboys lost on Turkey day. The Road Warriors SAVED that day.

    • @tobiasfarragut292
      @tobiasfarragut292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah bruh the only thing better than $325 is having something you know is worth that having it in good condition and keeping it, I have a white zombie t-shirt that goes for $200 now on “Grailed” lol its soo faded too 🤣

  • @Loverrover
    @Loverrover 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saw them do a scaffold match a the municipal auditorium in Columbus,Ga. Cornette stayed on the floor for that one.

    • @hendel213126
      @hendel213126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I barely remember going to a wrestling show at the Municipal Auditorium in Columbus, GA. I was probably 8 years old and my family was living in Columbus at the time.

  • @nicktucker3437
    @nicktucker3437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    think you can do it kid? "Yeaaaaaaa"

  • @ltrain4479
    @ltrain4479 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    According to Animal, Hawk and Boss Man got super high before the match and that probably contributed to him not catching Cornette.

  • @Ramekink
    @Ramekink 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RIP Beautiful Bobby Eaton

  • @seangoodwin3046
    @seangoodwin3046 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As to why Bill Dundee loves Scaffold Matches, when Superstar was young he, like Cary Grant, actually ran away from home and joined the circus. Billy was a trapeze artist before becoming a star. That would explain the ramrod posture for each. There is a picture of Billy next to a circus elephant from 1962 out there somewhere. Bill would have been maybe 19.

  • @deadaccount7520
    @deadaccount7520 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    you take my 50℅ chance at winning add his 30% chance of winning. Then multiple that by a 16 ft scaffold. subtract a 5 time 5 time 5 time 5 time 5 time world heavyweight title. You end up with dozens AND DOZENS of Mick Foley fans.

    • @kingrama27
      @kingrama27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dead account Scott Steiner?

    • @wescollins2981
      @wescollins2981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adds up to me

    • @tobiasfarragut292
      @tobiasfarragut292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Equals 66 2/3 chance of being a Hardcore Legend

    • @hollowarkangel
      @hollowarkangel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      bro you forgot to add KURT angle into the mix which means the chances of mick foley fans drastic go down

    • @whidoineedthis
      @whidoineedthis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tobiasfarragut292 i love how all us wrestling fans know EXACTLY how cool that comment was.
      nWo 4👈

  • @jmb01550
    @jmb01550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the one with Cleveland was Baby Doll was in Cornette's place

  • @chriswarfield7520
    @chriswarfield7520 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gotta see that Eaton backdrop picture.

  • @jeffreyriley8742
    @jeffreyriley8742 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That still shot is from the end of the Midnight/Rock and Roll Scaffold match from Starrcade 87.

    • @jrsmith3344
      @jrsmith3344 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jeffrey Riley
      Ha! Thanks for pointing that out. I kept thinking, none of those guys in the pic look like one of the Road Warriors, but it's so small on my phone, I figured it was just me

  • @cmm98
    @cmm98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saw this last night midnight express vs road warriors looked like it hurt alot ouch 😵😵😵

  • @alberthenley2988
    @alberthenley2988 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, I ain't know Big Bubba was back with Cornette on the end of 87 because I remember Bubba was with General Akbar for a minute and won the Uwf belt from One Man Gang. So I forgot he was back with them.

  • @TheJollyMisanthrope
    @TheJollyMisanthrope 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Watched this the other day on the WWE network. That cringe-inducing vignette with Magnum TA running on the beach was the only crap moment in what was otherwise a great event.

    • @tobiasfarragut292
      @tobiasfarragut292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well you gotta keep regular..gotta have a crap moment 🧻🚽

    • @Ramekink
      @Ramekink 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We weren't Magnum TA's demo you know? Same as for the Rock n Roll and their clones. They were all for the ladies

  • @stevenmccann2891
    @stevenmccann2891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Starcade 87 match shouldve been rnr/mx in a cage. Only because- the previous 2 starcades- the rnr were in cage matches. Plus- throughout their rivalry- the 2 teams havnt really done the cage just 2 on 2. Going back over the years lookin at houseshow match results- there werent many, if any cage matches. I THINK i read about 1. Chi town heat couldve been a triple cage event.

  • @scottspencer6036
    @scottspencer6036 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Definitely didn't know this match was the reason we got the Big Boss Man

    • @garyk6079
      @garyk6079 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't say this is the match that introduced boss man. He wrestled some great great matches as Big Bubba.

    • @electricdevil2422
      @electricdevil2422 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was the catalyst for Bubba to look for a new job and that's how he got a job with WWF and when he got the Boss Man gimmick.

    • @chrischar9428
      @chrischar9428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garyk6079 not what he said

  • @growing.grounds4054
    @growing.grounds4054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never seen him cornette before yourtube 3 months ago I just watched his promos from back then an this situation... It's shocking the slight difference from young Cornett to old lol

  • @thecakemoney8667
    @thecakemoney8667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that promo video was funny!

  • @brodocbetty4856
    @brodocbetty4856 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't tell me guy didn't love the business, I would have never done that kind of match.

  • @durden2480
    @durden2480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That scaffold match at Halloween havoc with PN News is fucking terrible. Even with Bobby and Steve Austin in it

  • @MrDinghus
    @MrDinghus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really didn't like these matches. I know they drew some money at times (especially in Memphis where I believe the scaffolds were a bit lower just as Jim points out those of Mid-South were, and I think the first time JCP ran them at this Starrcade they helped that show turn a nice profit) but it was a gimmick that led to bad matches because the guys couldn't move or really do anything and then the fall was so severe that lots of guys ended up getting hurt badly.

    • @MaxxCoyote
      @MaxxCoyote 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I've never got the appeal either. Its basically impossible to have a good match, and I've never seen one that didn't suck. I guess you would have had to have been there. Give me a cage match any day of the week.

    • @Ramekink
      @Ramekink 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean back in the day wrestling cards were developed in a way that there would be a little bit of everything throughout the show: Some upper midcard grudge matches, some high spot matches, some scientific wrestling matches, some brawl only matches, some milking the crowd only matches, a gimmick finish, etc. The whole show was booked to highlight the current and future main eventers. And the rest were moved around in a way that it didnt damage those main shows.

  • @jgfear
    @jgfear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was I was a kid I always thought that “ scaffold matches “ were cool, but course now I realize that the whole concept is stupid as fuck.

    • @fatalsniper3413
      @fatalsniper3413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah funny how Jim doesn't mention this. Garbage matches have always existed

  • @cmm98
    @cmm98 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bubba missed catching cornette

  • @thecakemoney8667
    @thecakemoney8667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    midnight express can't win a scaffold match!

  • @RevolutionRicky
    @RevolutionRicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starrcade starts with a Tone Deaf Tim Horner match? Thank God he didn't sing

  • @darrinh.2322
    @darrinh.2322 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    here is the "training" video enjoy !!! th-cam.com/video/ommL35x5BKM/w-d-xo.html

  • @brucewhite360
    @brucewhite360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎾🤓

  • @ricstormwolf
    @ricstormwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dumbest freaking match idea I've ever seen. They should never have happened.

  • @NintendoPsycho
    @NintendoPsycho 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    #CancelWWENetwork

    • @ahmeddemha6112
      @ahmeddemha6112 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jason Hogan
      You can just let your subscription lapse.

    • @ahmeddemha6112
      @ahmeddemha6112 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BC Phil
      Well if anything the painful eventuality of where all these angles,matches, and bad management are going to lead. But that's my personal assessment can't say the same for the "Vince killed wrestling" or "Won't push my favorite wrestler" contingent.

    • @tobiasfarragut292
      @tobiasfarragut292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For what..so we have NO CHOICE but to watch that Empty arena Screen faced thunder dome bullshit ....my guess is you really enjoyed the mimosa Mayhem

  • @thecaliforniabruh1158
    @thecaliforniabruh1158 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jim SUCKS at scaffold matches!

  • @ChickenParmesan45
    @ChickenParmesan45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Trump 2020