@@aashimtaggar1800I don’t think you got the joke. He was saying that Morbius was ahead of its time because it was a bad marvel movie before marvel movies were bad.
@@slugmaballs1444 They couldn’t ever get close to that good, people genuinely waited 1+ years for it. To me it ends the story and everything after is a money grab
For real. My friend texted me to ask if I had any interest in seeing The Marvels, and somewhat to my own surprise, my answer was "No." I love movies, I love going to the theater, and I love Marvel comics, but this movie just seems emblematic of Marvel's incredibly confused direction right now.
Right? That's so sad, because I believe that this is the story of most people here. Much like you, me and my friends have always met up and went to see the new MCU movie, not only that, but we talked about it months before it released, being so hyped for it and then had an awesome time in the cinema when it finally released, but now not a single person is interested in the new garbage that's coming out.
Me too! My wife and I were bitching about how badly we WANT to go to see Marvel movies again, we just can’t bring ourselves to be disappointed any more. Loki on the other hand, was a fucking master piece and I cannot understand why they aren’t doing more dope shit like that series.
This is honestly pretty crazy to me. Marvel has unfettered access to over 80 YEARS worth of stories, many of which were penned by award-winning writers. Planet Hulk, Annihilation, Siege, and Fear Itself are just a few of the fairly RECENT ones I can think of that were absolute bangers (I'd mention House of M and Avengers vs. X-Men, but Marvel hasn't done anything with mutants just yet). And yet they throw together crap like this? It's insane.
@@racool911idk but the Loki finale was fire omg!!!!! Best show the MCU has put out, and the ending was so good!! It wraps the storyline up so nicely, while setting up future Avengers movies, and even ties Quantumania in there through a small reference at the end of the episode. It gave us god of stories Loki who is now the most powerful comic book character ever adapted into live action. Loki is truly up there with amazing shows like Breaking Bad, AOT, etc. and it really is some of the best content the MCU has ever put out period.
@@dakotatrue12facts, absolutely amazing show and crazy good final episode, Edit:The marvels shouldn’t even considered to be in the same conversation of Loki. It’s honestly a downright disgrace for it to be even released on the same week as Lokis finale. It is completely horsesht compared to what Loki accomplished lmao
if Iman Vellani isn't a plant, and she was actually cast after being a fan of the movies, I feel so bad for her. Dreaming about being in the MCU, and then getting there just as it all falls apart must be really tough. Hopefully she continues acting, she really was the ONLY good part of this.
@@lewanbroski504yep they kinda forgot you had to make characters likable to make the movie funny MCU higher ups not understanding why we liked their earlier movies
I really appreciate Charlie not bashing the cgi artists since it’s not their fault it’s the management overworking them to churn out as much slop as possible
@@sub-harmonikMost times, it falls on the publishers. For the most part, the big corpos are the publishers that overwork their development studio teams and underpay them and overprice us with ludicrous MTX, lootboxes, etc.
They aren't even missing consistently, on the same day as this movie released they also released loki season 2 finale which is one of the best disney+ episodes ever and has a 9.7/10 on iMDb. They also had guardians earlier this year Every Marvel product is either a cinematic masterpiece or actual trash They can't even decide if they want marvel to be good or not anymore I'm so confused
@@Ewokpilot65vol 3 was only good because James Gunn and The Cast are phenomenal people who can make the project work. That's why I don't even consider it an MCU movie. Although I haven't watched loki I believe you. The problem is that they have been missing a lot with their mainline movies though.
@@LordRykard9376dude, you can't blame female characters for bad writing, blame bad writing. Hawkeye (t.v.), wonder woman, arcane, etc,etc, all have female main characters and are actually good.
Games went through an indie renaissance too. Turns out that people making art out of love and passion end up with a better product than corporations who only care about their bottom line (and not even their future bottom line, just the current year!)
I love how the entire reason for Darbin’s villainy is just that they are too stubborn to move. They clearly have a fleet, and presumably enough fuel to get somewhere important.
To move their entire planet? I understand at the end where she could have let carol restart their sun but its not like she herself could move an entire planets population and even then where? They would just be like the skrulls all over again
@@juandavidlopezmartinez-fq6ij I get that, but - the planet the skrulls were on would be a good start. They could easily have pooled resources instead of pushing the skrulls into a corner and evacuating the already breathable air for themselves. And there are likely hundreds of thousands of other planets with breathable atmospheres or accepting individuals. Combine this with the fact that the entire civilisation doesn’t need to be in one place and you’ve got an easy evacuation plan for somebody who doesn’t just want revenge and is phrasing it like help.
@@trifectumart is that not what they were doing at the start with the peace talks? But then they assumed the skrulls called Captain Marvel on them. Either way if Marvel doesn't think they can find the Skrulls a planet, then I don't see how they'd find the Kree a planet
@@JenoDevo Well - no, she said she’d strip the atmosphere before captain marvel even arrived, captain marvel only allowed her to have a better excuse. And I believe the reason the skrulls couldn’t find a new planet was because the Kree were actively seeking them out and destroying new settlements, like in the first captain marvel film.
Honestly, after Endgame, they should’ve been focusing on the X-men, Fantastic Four, and the future of their Spider-Man. They could build up Doctor Doom and Norman Osborn.
@@OliverJames1 Then why didn't they just do the other characters. Like they could had gave Namor his own movie which had alot of content to go off of from the comics but instead they just use him as a Not Black panther Villian
Yeah, after they retired both Iron Man and Captain America, they really needed to build up factions of MCU that have been relatively untouched, instead they used the remaining Avengers as a crutch and forced them in to being bad comedy sketches over and over again. I know it he didn't have much input on the direction of the movies, but it really seems like ever since Stan Lee passed Marvel took a massive nosedive and has no idea how to tell a compelling story now.
When you see people saying that fans can write better fan stories for movies than the people paid to actually do so, they are completely right. A planet where people communicate via singing?? This is what the paid people write??
It can be done right, but honestly I think that sort of thing is hard to do in a live action movie without it being very corny. But agree, as someone that has been around the fanfic community for like at least 20 years, I don't know how these Hollywood writers get work.
Let’s stop putting the blame on writers, this is definitely executives pushing this crap into these movies. The studios are the ones that approve any bad script.
I'm glad that Iman Vellani is universally praised as the only good thing about this movie. She deserves a big chance in a big movie that's not written by an AI
Let's be real here: AI will be able to write BETTER scripts. Why do you think the writers strike also had no ai in their demands? They thought they were talented, special and unique. Turns out they're more easily replaced by AI than the blue collar folks they said "learn to code" to.
My biggest gripe is that it’s supposed to be the Marvels team origin story but the team breaks up as soon as they start actually working together. The only time the audience has really seen Monica is as a side character on other stuff.
The production hell this movie has been through is pretty wild. The director even left to do her other movie during post production and reshoots. Not to mention all the other drama
I doubt "the director left", cause her previous one was a Candyman movie, which had already started production by early 2019 and was probably well finished as soon as production for "The Marvels" started in 2021. - If she ever "left" to do anything for "Candyman", it was because they were simply overlapping due to "Candyman" being delayed cause of the pandemic right in the middle, nothing more. - People do multiple projects and they don't always need to be there for every part of it.
@@michaelmonstar4276I disagree, the director can make final calls as to what scenes get cut and what needs a little touch up in the final hours. Think about the Dan Snyder cut of the Justice league- directors change near the very end and the movie changes as a result.
@@JustinRutaFinal Cut is not given to every director. In fact, it’s pretty much limited to the top tier (Scorsese, Nolan, Fincher, Spielberg, Tarantino, etc). Kevin Fiege ultimately gets final approval on MCU stuff.
Iman Vellani might be the most wasted talent in this whole franchise, you can feel how much passion she has for the comics and characters, and she translates that perfectly in her performance. I REALLY hope she gets better projects in this franchise moving forward.
She loves the comics and they take every opportunity to dump on her they can 😭 she literally tried to correct Kevin feige about some lore and he was like "no"
She was the saviour of this movie. If it wasn't for her and the cat army, this movie would've been an unwatchable mess. She better go to the hospital due to back injury for carrying this movie
I really hope she gets better projects somewhere else. She has a bright future in front of her, because I don't see a far future for Ms Marvel beyond Avengers: Secret Wars. With her reputation as a Marvel superhero, I hope she would get casting offers here and there. Imagine a classic teenage drama with Iman Vellani as a geeky sidekick.
10 years ago we got the original Avengers, what a movie. Nick Fury was one of the most badass characters in cinema and now he's a quip machine. That movie had heroes that you cared about. They had weaknesses, emotional depth, relatability. Now we have heroes whose overpowered strength feels unearned, and holds 0 emotional weight. It's truly astounding how far the MCU has fallen considering how good it once was.
The way they had NICK FURY of all people be the comedy relief was insane 😭 i swear the audience was SILENT the whole movie except during the cats scene (the only good thing in the whole movie)
The Marvels is a fusion of light, color, and sound. Action scenes are accentuated with rumbling bass if the theater is so-equipped. It will make a marvillion dollars.
Sounds like the gimmick from 1959's "The Tingler", when they attached something like a joy buzzer to the bottom of theatre seats. In the movie, they talk about some thing that crawls into people's spines and kills them, but if you scream, you'll survive. At the climax, they buzzed audience member's butts and told them to "scream for your lives!".
Im assuming you have no knowledge of the comics, Marvel is nowhere near its peak, let the f4 and mutants come first, and if they do bad, then yea marvel is looking horrendous, but the mcu is still having a hangover from endgame. (loki season 2 finale is the best thing from marvel since endgame btw)
I'm actually surprised that this movie received this level of bashing from Jeremy and Charlie. I thought it would at least be enjoyable, dumb action movie like Black Adam but this just sounds like Morbius level of bad.
@@kickass2117 I watched another review which had a totally different take that I never even thought of. That this movie was targeted towards kids. When she left the theater, apparently she heard a lot of kids praising it and saying it was a lot of fun. That being said, she also said she'd give it a C rating for kids lol.
The reason ms marvel and the actress works so well is bc she acquired the role from literally being a huge comic nerd which is so damn awesome and a real life dream come true haha
Agree but she’s great in spite of everything. She’s yet to have good direction at all. Pair her up with Kate bishop and heck give the power to Iman Vellani of writing the story.
I always hated her for being miss marvel. i realised she has nothing to do with her bad ish show.... yes sometimes she is a bit stiff (could be the scripts) but she does stick to the source material enouch
Agree. However, I am a little worried that with the intense backlash from people who scream random nonsense such as “the m-she-u is ruining everything,” we will not be able to see many more passionate actors such as Iman Vellani take part in these comic book adaptations. Or have more characters such as Ms. Marvel get major development in movies and TV.
I'm glad Chris Hemsworth said he wouldn't return as Thor unless he thought the story was good. He is my favorite character and I don't want him to be ruined any more.
THAT and the fact that Carol Danvers is apparently a much more likeable character in this than she was in her first movie, apparently she's developed a much more relaxing personality and isn't so snobby like the first.
I saw The Marvels with a friend of mine who hadn’t see Ms Marvel, and the villain is so underdeveloped that my friend just assumed that the villain was featured in previous tv shows
I've always felt bad for the actress that plays Miss Marvel. She seems really cute and seems to really care about her role, and is also a huge MCU nerd so she really loves being part of the universe. It's such a shame that her role is being so mismanaged because I think she has a lot of potential
Doesn't help that she's also playing one of the hated Facist Trio of marvel comic characters that no one can stand. Ms.Marvel, Captian Marvel, and Riri Williams.
It’s funny that this and Loki, one of the most thoughtful and intricate projects Marvel has ever made, released on the same day. Goes to show how little cohesion there is behind the scenes between these movies and shows.
Loki has a lot less CGI. I wonder if the amount of CGI they use in films now has anything to do with the quality. I know there is a big problem in film making now where they just gloss over major flaws and say, 'they can fix it in post-production.' With Loki, the CGI was not really a big enough part of the show to act as a crutch for them. Also, it was clearly much more of a passion project given how many references, easter eggs, and nerd shit has been packed into it.
@@Yepmyaccountits not the cgi. Its the writing and direction. As its always been. Which has been garbage for some time. Films have been bad since iron man 3. Problem is, they went Blackrock Marxist leninist maoist/frankfurt skool propaganda the further they went on.
@@Mr_Jishit's actually not. If we condensed Loki down to the length of the Marvels and just used the CGI scenes, it would be the same or Loki would have more. Loki obviously has a longer runtime lol
@@Mr_JishLoki's special effects were basically where you need them, it's a comics based show after all, none of that 'We can just fix it in post drivel'.
After they shoved jokes into the middle of a serious conversation about cancer in the last Thor i'm not surprised they started joking after a planet dies in this one
Issue is, they have grown to be so big the only way to continue is to massively over sell and hype up any movie they make. I simply stopped watching anything marvel related after I paid for a ticket just to watch a 2 hour ad for infinity war.
Honestly, I'm glad I concluded my MCU phase with Guardians 3. It was the last product that had actual heart in it, and honestly even before that things were messy. Part of me wishes they ended things with Endgame.
@@SamuelSwagwell because he is a generally chill guy who doesn’t listen to the noise coming from “toxic fans” some might say. The fact he is this baffled really says a lot
It's so tragic how something as beloved as the MCU has taken such a turn for the worst. There seriously needs to be some sort of reboot that starts after Endgame because trying to make some sort of climax to the level of Infinity War would just be in vain.
Guardians 3 was great, but that was pretty the much the only above average marvel movie lately. Not counting spiderverse, since that is Sony Edit: Loki Season 2 has been pretty solid so far as well.
The actress who plays the villain in this movie is engaged to Tom Hiddleston. They also have a child together. The sheer irony makes me laugh. The best MCU villain hooks up with the worst one. 😂😂
"It's wants to be like this whacky, quirky, zany comedy, and then sometimes it wants to be a drama, and then sometimes it wants to be action focused..." This line describes almost every MCU project post Endgame (and partially includes Endgame as well)
The mcu always has and always will be like a comic book universe. Serious shit happens but characters will quip and joke about it. Weird ass shit can happen and that might be tonally jarring but it’s just how comic books are. The serious and weird exist in the same universe and sometimes it crosses over
It can work (just look at Guardians of the Galaxy or pre-wokeness action comedies), but you have to understand timing and tone. You also have to take your characters and story seriously.
I remember Samuel Jackson criticizing the treatment of his character in the first Ms.Marvel (as much as he could get away with anyway.). He said it didn’t align with his character but maybe imaginably a younger stage of him. Now they’ve got no excuse I guess, they can’t damn help themselves. I also remember them advertising Nick Fury and not the titular character on Twitter back when the ticket sales already seemed to be a lie (common claims of empty theatres and unfavorable general audience reviews) and then they tried advertising it again for streaming. Even Brie Larson seemed sarcastic about the future of her character in some interview I saw a clip of a while back. It’s hard to say Disney wouldn’t care about yet another major financial and brand health loss but you really gotta wonder what the oversight on all this looks like in just wanting a decent movie released.
I hope that James Gunn's DCU kicks off and movie after movie they stomp Marvel's in the box office. That'll give them hopefully somewhat of a waking-up call. But tbh at this point I have no faith in the MCU, there's legit only three movies I gave a shit about after Endgame, the two Spider-Man movies and GOTG Vol 3. I doubt the DCU will even be that good tbh but I trust James Gunn 10x more than the schmucks at Marvel thats for sure
@@eirzaa0429 Marvel deserves to be embarrassed that DC ever did better than them with an extended universe. To me I think they’ll be equally bad I’ll settle for a fickle damning critical reception before carrying on not caring.
I remember Nick Fury from Captain America: The Winter Soldier and I am very sorry that the most mysterious and dangerous spy of the whole series - they completely humiliated
Complementing Iman Vellani was so nice to hear. She's such an amazing actress and super passionate about the projects she's in and her character. I just wish her first breakout role wasn't being so dampened by the state of the MCU.
It makes alot of sense when you realize they aren't writing movies, they are writing content. These are a collection of TH-cam sketches written in a form where they can be combined into a movie, or a series at the drop of a hat. They get a bunch of writers to submit a bunch of short drafts for less pay until they manage to jigsaw a script.
@Adanmacreates I mean kinda, but only if people wrote comic books by ripping individual pages out of other comics and stapling them back together in a random order. Then you hand twelve of those to a studio executive who doesn't read comics so he can decide which your twelve collections of random junk gets stapled onto someone else's to make a script long enough to publish. Oh and you don't know if you're writing a one off or a novel so make both at the same time.
I'm happy for ms.marvel actress. Lotsa people saying she's the only one that did great and hopefully, at the very least, this movie will get her better roles than this in the future.
Also it needs to be mentioned that in Captain Marvels rage she caused mass genocide, ruined an entire planet of innocent people, could have done something about it to make it right and blatantly doesn’t. How on earth are we supposed to like that character?
@@gjfklets not forget how they fumbled with Kang and won't be using him going forward…. But Ultron could have been a massive threat, as shown in the What If series; but they massacred a potential story arc that would of been very interesting.
My favorite part was when morbius showed up and revealed that he was the 4th marvel and then they all said "it's marvelin time" and marveled all over the bad guy
I really think what happened at marvel is they thought up a kickass ending to the story. They put a nice bow on it, kissed it goodnight, then sent it to the masses. Looking on lovingly at their creation; then the investors called, and were like: "Haha that was awesome, what next?" And everyone at marvel collectively shit their pants.
@@succuled1969he means that there are SO MANY good marvel comics to pull from if they need new stories, but Disney still seems to want to keep the source material at arms length from the movies. Like, if they need new stories, Marvel comics have been going nonstop for over half a century now.
@@succuled1969he means comics, they should, by all means, be able to adapt content for a long time, but some of the recent movies feel like they’ve run out, when in reality, they haven’t
I dunno, I can’t say I have any expectations for this movie. I think the actresses are great, Kamala’s is especially really good at what she does with her character. It just, Marvel doesn’t seem to know what to do at all.
Definitely better than Quantamania. They also did actually show Dar Ben’s back story. It’s not amazing but it’s not Marvel’s worse. Quantamania and Secret Invasion are for worse.
I believe today that the beginning of the end of the MCU wasn't after End Game but after the release of the first guardians of the galaxy. That combo of comedy and serious was so successful that every director has since tried to do their own version of that style.
It’s a shame, too. Because those movies are so good. But, it’s because James Gunn (for the most part) knows how to juggle the silly and the serious. A lot of these other directors just… don’t.
@@zogwort1522I thought season 1 was mediocre. Felt like they stretched out the story to make more episodes and I hated Sylvie's face. Season 2 I watched 4 episodes and was stunned....it was good.....though I don't like the kangs actor overacting, its like that guy is in a different show 🤣 Everyone is in a Loki marvel show and Kang actor is acting like a Saturday morning cartoon....quite horrible
It's crazy how many haters there are now who haven't even watched a single moment form that show. Everything about Loki shows that the MCU has come up with an actually good show but people refuse to believe it. I don't know if this is because of the reputation modern MCU has built around itself but, Loki is definitely one of the top 3 superhero shows I've watched only behind daredevil and the punisher.
Marvel movies these days are like my english essays. I dont know what im writing some of its too fast some too slow and the order is wrong and all over the place
Post endgame they should have launched into the villains saga. With the loss of the avengers there's a power vacuum and we should follow some of the greatest villains rise to fill it. A mafia/ godfather type of film showing kingpins climb back to the top in new York would have been amazing post endgame and show how city life adapted and continued without the avengers. Kingpin could have led into hawkeye and our introduction to Kate Bishop and the early concept of a new avengers team In the future. Doctor strange multiverse of madness should have been R rated and focused on wanda the darkhold and hell introducing mephisto and setting up characters that rely on him like Dr doom or ghost rider in the future. A character piece film following Dr dooms birth in latvaria his mother's basis in magic and her being taken by mephisto leading to him moving to new York and his study of science and technology to save his mother only for it to fail and leave him horrifically scarred leading him to adopt his moniker of Dr doom and vowing to master both magic and science to get his vengeance on mephisto. Ms marvel should be the light hearted Street level film to help ground audiences and introduces us to our second member of a potential new avengers. I'm bored of writing but you get the idea they needed to rebuild from the ground up.
This is how most fans think and would love for it to happen. Only goes to show that people who are truly behind this just does not get cbm long term and storytelling
Finally, a fan responds with more than just “weh dis aux deuxdeux buddah nau deux bedduhbweh”. Thing is, Sony is already failing at the bad guy route with Morbius and Venom. Also, Feige was going antihero in order to introduce Thunderbolts. Frankly, the only bright spot to look forward to is seeing Harrison Ford turn into Red Hulk.
I think what happened with the MCU is that it got so big that the budget on every movie increased exponentially in the corporate suits made them play every movie as safe as possible to have as little risk of losing money as possible.
They also specifically hired women, young writers, an TV directors to make their massive multi-million dollar movies. - Women, who are absolutely capable of doing great work, but society is so focused on "making things right" women are now being forced into positions they are not trained and ready for. Specifically because of their vaginas. This is getting female writers and directors onto projects they are not ready for, as they are coming off of Indie Films or Mid-Budget films and are given HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars to operate a star-studded crew. Disney does this because it is literally still cheaper to hire women instead of men, not because they are being "diverse". - TV Directors are also a massive problem. Of the men that Disney and Marvel hire now, they go for TV directors with a few series in their credits. Ant Man: Quantumania was written by a man who has done: 6 Episodes of Rick and Morty, 7 Episode of Miracle Workers, and 238 Episodes of "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" that has other writers. Then they gave him Ant Man. TV Directors are easy to manipulate because this is "their big break", and are cheaper to hire. - Young Writers are desperate, and are extremely easy to manipulate. They have no respect from anyone in the industry, so nobody will defend them. They are bright-eyed and motivated by passion, which means you can absolutely pay them less because they are "just happy to be here, part of the MCU they grew up with". They are also a penny a dozen, let alone a dime.
nothing safe about this garbage. I feel a bit violated and I havent even been able to motivate myself to watch and/or finish a few of this phase’s projects
Honestly I had some moments that made me chuckle but what really made me laugh was when someone fell mid movie and started to crawl on the floor, the fights scenes weren’t the worst and the cgi was great I feel bad for the artists that had to work on this
I think a large part of it is that they're simply too scared or afraid of pitting Cap Marvel against any strong foe that could actually beat her. From her first solo movie to now, her main antagonists only survive until the end based on plot relevance. I think they're just to afraid to show us, the audience, her getting beaten up and that ppl may come after them for showing one of their few female protagonist as anything other than "the absolute strongest at any given time or situation" like even Thor gets his ass kicked in all his movies to build tension and give a payoff when he finally defeats them at the end. But Nah, Cap Marvel is simply too strong to ever really be challenged, apparently.
One of the worst things to happen to the MCU in retrospect is the avengers movies having good comedic timings. We praised them at the time for being great at transitioning between the quips into high octane high tension moments. The quips between characters was an addition to them not the focus, but over time without the guidance of the directors who knew and understood how to pace the comedy and jokes between the drama we've been left with a puzzle where none of the pieces line up with each other so everything sticks out more and more.
Two planets got destroyed in this movie and the cast of heros didn't give a single fuck. They didn't even help the people on the second planet they just left 😂😂😂
The problem is clearly that she hulk should’ve showed up and called the audience too stupid to realize the complexity of this “”””””””””modern””””””””” masterpiece.
The problem is clearly that they didn't have a scene in the movie where they break the 4th wall and tell everyone who doesn't like the movie that they are sexist and support the evil patriarchy that is totally suppressing feminist ideas... that are all over the media for some reason. Hmm I wonder if you're actually suppressed if your ideas are the mainstream view.
Dar-Benn is literally the worst "sympathetic" villain MCU ever tried The Krees genocide the Skrulls and invade planets, Carol was 100% justified in taking out their leader, it's not her fault they're so incompetent that the moment their leader is dead, the empire crumbles, and it's definately not Carol's fault that these dumbasses went into a civil war that destroyed their own sun and atmosphere, at any point the Krees could've say "well this war is killing our planet, maybe we should stop?" but they didn't
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Morbius was truly ahead of its time for the MCU.
I get the joke but Morbius is actually in a separate universe (Sonyverse)
I hate universes so much
@@aashimtaggar1800I don’t think you got the joke. He was saying that Morbius was ahead of its time because it was a bad marvel movie before marvel movies were bad.
@@EvroCraft marvel been bad since endgame, the only good thing came out was no way home and that's it.
@@slugmaballs1444 They couldn’t ever get close to that good, people genuinely waited 1+ years for it. To me it ends the story and everything after is a money grab
@@slugmaballs1444 Shang Chi? Guardians 3?
You know there's a problem when you're more excited for the reviews than the movie itself
I woke up and typed "marvels reviews" filtered to a day, made breakfast and sat down with Mt dog like Saturday morning reviews lmao
@@BoinkrNanis They are definitely the highlight of my day
Truly.
I hope they don't delete the reviews, like they did with the first Ms. Marvel movie
I legit just saw this comment on The Critical Drinker's video
I can't help but applaud them honestly, everyone had 0 expectations and it was still worse than they expected
@@p-__ well thats random
@@p-__I'm sorry your father never came back
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Mcu is such a joke now i wonder where it all went wrong. Stopped following it after endgame
Reminds of a banner that said 'Our expectations for you were low but holy fuck'
I went from meeting up with my friends for every marvel movie, to not even speaking to them when marvel movies come out. Brilliant work marvel!
Bro fr me and my friend did this up till antman 3 (we regret watching the movie) and didnt even know marvels came out
For real. My friend texted me to ask if I had any interest in seeing The Marvels, and somewhat to my own surprise, my answer was "No." I love movies, I love going to the theater, and I love Marvel comics, but this movie just seems emblematic of Marvel's incredibly confused direction right now.
Right? That's so sad, because I believe that this is the story of most people here. Much like you, me and my friends have always met up and went to see the new MCU movie, not only that, but we talked about it months before it released, being so hyped for it and then had an awesome time in the cinema when it finally released, but now not a single person is interested in the new garbage that's coming out.
Me too! My wife and I were bitching about how badly we WANT to go to see Marvel movies again, we just can’t bring ourselves to be disappointed any more.
Loki on the other hand, was a fucking master piece and I cannot understand why they aren’t doing more dope shit like that series.
Same honestly after endgame shit went down hill no one cares anymore since it’s just shit
“Most underdeveloped villain in the series” Holy shit that is genuinely impressive.
Who was the most under developed villain before this one?
@@shawndonq135The Supreme Intelligence?
@@arglebargle5531that along with the terrorist in falcon series (I forgot her name), and Wanda or Agatha
@@shawndonq135 Maliketh maybe?
like seriously? the bar was pretty much on the ground with the likes of Malekith and the villain from the first Captain Marvel
I think we all owe Thanos a huge apology.
Fax
Hell Yeah
he did us a big favor
Thanos was right all along
Should've ended at infinity war ngl
Can't believe they finally made a movie with Dhar Mann as the antagonist. The writers at Marvel really outdid themselves this time.
Naw bro that shit's outta pocket frr 🤣
He's actually an anti-hero. You probably missed the sex scene he had at the end with the three main characters
@@LuisSierra42 XDD
@@LuisSierra42 I thought it was too much until he went "Its Dharmanning time" and it brought me right back in. Such a beautiful scene.
Goddammit I been watching August the duck channel too long. 😅
This is honestly pretty crazy to me. Marvel has unfettered access to over 80 YEARS worth of stories, many of which were penned by award-winning writers. Planet Hulk, Annihilation, Siege, and Fear Itself are just a few of the fairly RECENT ones I can think of that were absolute bangers (I'd mention House of M and Avengers vs. X-Men, but Marvel hasn't done anything with mutants just yet). And yet they throw together crap like this? It's insane.
I mean the X-Men/mutants stuff is clearly coming soon bc of Deadpool 3 ofc but also the post credit scene of this movie
they destroyed gorr's story line and i am still bumbed about it
Thx to them we wont ever get A.I.M because M.O.D.O.K is not in this universe anymore (at least not the Modok we know from comics)
They even had the guts to put out a “leave of absence” letter for kids to give to their teachers because The Marvels was going to be THAT GREAT.
I think it has more to do with Loki finale and The Marvels coming out on the same day
Yeah, most cringe promotion ever tbh
@@racool911idk but the Loki finale was fire omg!!!!! Best show the MCU has put out, and the ending was so good!! It wraps the storyline up so nicely, while setting up future Avengers movies, and even ties Quantumania in there through a small reference at the end of the episode. It gave us god of stories Loki who is now the most powerful comic book character ever adapted into live action.
Loki is truly up there with amazing shows like Breaking Bad, AOT, etc. and it really is some of the best content the MCU has ever put out period.
@@dakotatrue12facts, absolutely amazing show and crazy good final episode,
Edit:The marvels shouldn’t even considered to be in the same conversation of Loki. It’s honestly a downright disgrace for it to be even released on the same week as Lokis finale. It is completely horsesht compared to what Loki accomplished lmao
Studio pandering always leads to faliure
i really liked the part where ms marvel looked around the room and said "together we are marvel-ous"
Truly the MCU movie of all time!
Ok
Wait is this actually in the movie?
@@ChristoferrrProductions ...ok
Ms. Marvel would actually say this and I'm here for it.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the time and effort Marvel doesn’t put into their movies?
☠️
No
If Marvel can’t take the time to make a good movie, then I can’t take the time to appreciate it
They put effort into ruining their franchases as fast as possible
How do you know they any didn’t put effort into it? Can you show proof?
if Iman Vellani isn't a plant, and she was actually cast after being a fan of the movies, I feel so bad for her. Dreaming about being in the MCU, and then getting there just as it all falls apart must be really tough. Hopefully she continues acting, she really was the ONLY good part of this.
shes hopefully going to have the biggest role for the young avengers...which is something I think could redeem a part of the MCU.
@@dylancovella1447 She is a plant
@@Person0fColor I dont believe she's a plant. She looks like a completely normal functioning human being
@@yorhun2763 The plant people who look like normal humans so that it’s less obvious, and it makes her “Cinderella story” seem more realistic.
tf does plant mean in this context?
My question is, when did all the creators think Marvel needed to be a comedic series
After guardians of the galaxy vol. 1
@kuds009 Sure but atleast all the guardians movies had actual plot, good villians and took itself seriously when it needed to
@@lewanbroski504yep they kinda forgot you had to make characters likable to make the movie funny MCU higher ups not understanding why we liked their earlier movies
@@kuds009 That's funny cause Gotg 3 is the darkest and saddest mcu movie of all time. Even the jokes had serious undertone.
When Thor switched to comedy and was a massive hit
I really appreciate Charlie not bashing the cgi artists since it’s not their fault it’s the management overworking them to churn out as much slop as possible
so how do you feel about game developers?
The sad part is that the VFX industry is making layoffs rn despite not being able to meet the demand as it stands.
@@sub-harmonikMost times, it falls on the publishers. For the most part, the big corpos are the publishers that overwork their development studio teams and underpay them and overprice us with ludicrous MTX, lootboxes, etc.
You talk like you know some of them personally
It's weird cause the visuals in the movie were stunning for the most part
At this point, there must be internal Sabotage. There’s no way a studio like this could miss this consistently.
They aren't even missing consistently, on the same day as this movie released they also released loki season 2 finale which is one of the best disney+ episodes ever and has a 9.7/10 on iMDb. They also had guardians earlier this year
Every Marvel product is either a cinematic masterpiece or actual trash
They can't even decide if they want marvel to be good or not anymore I'm so confused
It's the M-She-U dude. It's about women and empowerment.
@@LordRykard9376omg stfu, the women to guy ratio in the MCU is pretty 50/50, you guys just hate women
@@Ewokpilot65vol 3 was only good because James Gunn and The Cast are phenomenal people who can make the project work. That's why I don't even consider it an MCU movie. Although I haven't watched loki I believe you. The problem is that they have been missing a lot with their mainline movies though.
@@LordRykard9376dude, you can't blame female characters for bad writing, blame bad writing. Hawkeye (t.v.), wonder woman, arcane, etc,etc, all have female main characters and are actually good.
Amazing how Disney has managed to turn off two of the most passionate fan bases with the MCU and Star Wars.
Crazy how a billion dollar company cant write for shit
Freddy Fazbear showing up out of nowhere in the 3rd act to say “The MCU is no longer Marvelous” really tells us how far the MCU has fallen.
the scariest part is when Mickey Mouse came out and he was like I always come back
🤣
Har har har har har har har har har har har
Im glad Stan Lee passed before having to see all these marvel trash movies ruining his lifelong passion.
Hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor
This right here is the reason indie animations/ shows are popping off right now. Because they actually care about their audience.
care for the audience is irrelevant. if anything it is often the main source that creates the mess in the first place.
👏👏👏 more like, care about what they're putting out, but yes on both fonts
Games went through an indie renaissance too. Turns out that people making art out of love and passion end up with a better product than corporations who only care about their bottom line (and not even their future bottom line, just the current year!)
That one porn graphic novel Charlie read was more exciting than this. 💀
also Sony animation, which is not indie, with their spiderverse series
I genuinely didn’t even realize the movie came out today. Really sets the tone, huh?
wait LMAO it came out today?? LMAOO Yellowflash2 was right all along
I envy you.
@@p-__how do you feel being a disgrace to your bloodline?
@@myheartbelongstowhatwho da heck is that
@@exilemorin04another TH-camr
I love how the entire reason for Darbin’s villainy is just that they are too stubborn to move. They clearly have a fleet, and presumably enough fuel to get somewhere important.
To move their entire planet? I understand at the end where she could have let carol restart their sun but its not like she herself could move an entire planets population and even then where? They would just be like the skrulls all over again
@@juandavidlopezmartinez-fq6ij I get that, but - the planet the skrulls were on would be a good start. They could easily have pooled resources instead of pushing the skrulls into a corner and evacuating the already breathable air for themselves. And there are likely hundreds of thousands of other planets with breathable atmospheres or accepting individuals. Combine this with the fact that the entire civilisation doesn’t need to be in one place and you’ve got an easy evacuation plan for somebody who doesn’t just want revenge and is phrasing it like help.
@@trifectumart is that not what they were doing at the start with the peace talks? But then they assumed the skrulls called Captain Marvel on them. Either way if Marvel doesn't think they can find the Skrulls a planet, then I don't see how they'd find the Kree a planet
@@JenoDevo Well - no, she said she’d strip the atmosphere before captain marvel even arrived, captain marvel only allowed her to have a better excuse. And I believe the reason the skrulls couldn’t find a new planet was because the Kree were actively seeking them out and destroying new settlements, like in the first captain marvel film.
@@juandavidlopezmartinez-fq6ijlol what do u mean "to where"? Drabin had no problem warping to places that had what her planet needed.
For everyone who doesn't want to be spoiled, he gave it a 25%
I don't think most people would care lol
You're totally right. Not even planning to see the movie btw.@@cucumbertoucher
"spoiled" you mean saved someone time and money
Shocker he hated. Just going with everyone else
f you bro, you spoiled the video
Thats so nice of Dar man to grace the MCU with his presence
Yeah they should’ve had told them: “what happens in the dark always comes to light.”
I could not stop thinking that throughout this video
Honestly, after Endgame, they should’ve been focusing on the X-men, Fantastic Four, and the future of their Spider-Man. They could build up Doctor Doom and Norman Osborn.
They didn't have the rights to those characters at the time. Only Spider-Man
@@OliverJames1 Then why didn't they just do the other characters. Like they could had gave Namor his own movie which had alot of content to go off of from the comics but instead they just use him as a Not Black panther Villian
@@OliverJames1I believe they have earned enough money during the first decade of the MCU to buy all these rights back.
Yeah, after they retired both Iron Man and Captain America, they really needed to build up factions of MCU that have been relatively untouched, instead they used the remaining Avengers as a crutch and forced them in to being bad comedy sketches over and over again. I know it he didn't have much input on the direction of the movies, but it really seems like ever since Stan Lee passed Marvel took a massive nosedive and has no idea how to tell a compelling story now.
@@OliverJames1with the money they unloaded on all the MCU flops they could have purchased all of them back, plus.
The villain basically had the same evil plan as Spaceballs... Let that sink in for a second.
Dhar Mann going from making youtube videos to being a villian in a marvel movie. What a glow up, congrats to him.
fuck this cracked me up
"So you see, that's why I need to avenge the Kree"
Hey Dhar Mann fam! I hope you liked my evil plan to destroy the universe.
When you see people saying that fans can write better fan stories for movies than the people paid to actually do so, they are completely right. A planet where people communicate via singing?? This is what the paid people write??
It can be done right, but honestly I think that sort of thing is hard to do in a live action movie without it being very corny. But agree, as someone that has been around the fanfic community for like at least 20 years, I don't know how these Hollywood writers get work.
"Paid" to do so?
I disagree. If you let the fans write, you get spider-man lotus
Let’s be real no one actually good at writing wanted this gig either way just glad it’s over so we can get to the better films
Let’s stop putting the blame on writers, this is definitely executives pushing this crap into these movies. The studios are the ones that approve any bad script.
I'm glad that Iman Vellani is universally praised as the only good thing about this movie. She deserves a big chance in a big movie that's not written by an AI
I wish she get more roles outside MCU if they kept wasting her talent here
Let's be real here: AI will be able to write BETTER scripts. Why do you think the writers strike also had no ai in their demands? They thought they were talented, special and unique. Turns out they're more easily replaced by AI than the blue collar folks they said "learn to code" to.
@@nukiesduke6868you can’t be saying that with a one piece pfp. That’s like saying AI could write it better than oda
Some cringy fanfics are better written than this...
@tarn2821 tbh. G5 felt ai generated. It came out of nowhere without any foreshadowing. Other than that oda is a God at writing
My biggest gripe is that it’s supposed to be the Marvels team origin story but the team breaks up as soon as they start actually working together. The only time the audience has really seen Monica is as a side character on other stuff.
The Marvels is that kind of movie, that disappoints you even if you have no expectations.
You could have negative expectations and still be mad after watching it.
@@SLITHERISfr I had really bad expectations and I’m still pissed lol
The production hell this movie has been through is pretty wild. The director even left to do her other movie during post production and reshoots. Not to mention all the other drama
Yes but strong wahmen.
I doubt "the director left", cause her previous one was a Candyman movie, which had already started production by early 2019 and was probably well finished as soon as production for "The Marvels" started in 2021. - If she ever "left" to do anything for "Candyman", it was because they were simply overlapping due to "Candyman" being delayed cause of the pandemic right in the middle, nothing more. - People do multiple projects and they don't always need to be there for every part of it.
@@michaelmonstar4276I disagree, the director can make final calls as to what scenes get cut and what needs a little touch up in the final hours. Think about the Dan Snyder cut of the Justice league- directors change near the very end and the movie changes as a result.
@@JustinRutaFinal Cut is not given to every director. In fact, it’s pretty much limited to the top tier (Scorsese, Nolan, Fincher, Spielberg, Tarantino, etc). Kevin Fiege ultimately gets final approval on MCU stuff.
She didn't do that, and even if she did, that's a very common thing to happen
Iman Vellani might be the most wasted talent in this whole franchise, you can feel how much passion she has for the comics and characters, and she translates that perfectly in her performance. I REALLY hope she gets better projects in this franchise moving forward.
She loves the comics and they take every opportunity to dump on her they can 😭 she literally tried to correct Kevin feige about some lore and he was like
"no"
She was the saviour of this movie. If it wasn't for her and the cat army, this movie would've been an unwatchable mess. She better go to the hospital due to back injury for carrying this movie
I really hope she gets better projects somewhere else. She has a bright future in front of her, because I don't see a far future for Ms Marvel beyond Avengers: Secret Wars. With her reputation as a Marvel superhero, I hope she would get casting offers here and there. Imagine a classic teenage drama with Iman Vellani as a geeky sidekick.
the problem is his character is trash
@@alejandrolagos9603 his? I think you're a little confused here
10 years ago we got the original Avengers, what a movie. Nick Fury was one of the most badass characters in cinema and now he's a quip machine. That movie had heroes that you cared about. They had weaknesses, emotional depth, relatability. Now we have heroes whose overpowered strength feels unearned, and holds 0 emotional weight. It's truly astounding how far the MCU has fallen considering how good it once was.
True man, I sometime get emotional about being in the marvel era
The way they had NICK FURY of all people be the comedy relief was insane 😭 i swear the audience was SILENT the whole movie except during the cats scene (the only good thing in the whole movie)
what's in that cats scene?
Cats rule.
@@quite1enoughman-eating aliens disguised as a colony of cute kittens
@@CloneCiscoi read that as a man is eating aliens that look like cute kittens
@@a3ro379 😂
for everyone just wanting the score, he gave it a 25%
Thank you
I wish he would bring the meter back
@@sonysoldier9587people just skip to it and leave😂
@@ChristoferrrProductions I enjoy books by Herodotus complemented with a bowl of Muesli.
@@sonysoldier9587yeah but then he actually has to sit down and edit his videos
The Marvels is a fusion of light, color, and sound. Action scenes are accentuated with rumbling bass if the theater is so-equipped. It will make a marvillion dollars.
Charlie inspires me, my parents said if I get 30k followers here They'd buy me a better mic for recording,, begging u guys, literally begging..
@@MbitaChizi30k for a mic?
Edit: I thought he said 30k dollars. I'm stoopid.
If somebody want that, they better go watch Taylor Swift concert-movie.
Sounds like the gimmick from 1959's "The Tingler", when they attached something like a joy buzzer to the bottom of theatre seats. In the movie, they talk about some thing that crawls into people's spines and kills them, but if you scream, you'll survive. At the climax, they buzzed audience member's butts and told them to "scream for your lives!".
you have a beard bro go get a job and buy it yourself@@MbitaChizi
I'd agree with you that this movie's villain was Marvel's most underdeveloped villain if the villain from Thor: Love and Thunder didn't exist
Marvel is like a dad who peaked in high school still trying to reminisce on his highlights
Well not really. More like the dad who had an incredibly impressive career but is now washed up.
Truly a Gary King moment
*middle school
half of the movies were mediocre anyway lol
Im assuming you have no knowledge of the comics, Marvel is nowhere near its peak, let the f4 and mutants come first, and if they do bad, then yea marvel is looking horrendous, but the mcu is still having a hangover from endgame.
(loki season 2 finale is the best thing from marvel since endgame btw)
I love that Jeremy Jahns legitimately thought that they used AI for this movie.
I'm actually surprised that this movie received this level of bashing from Jeremy and Charlie. I thought it would at least be enjoyable, dumb action movie like Black Adam but this just sounds like Morbius level of bad.
@@kickass2117 I watched another review which had a totally different take that I never even thought of. That this movie was targeted towards kids. When she left the theater, apparently she heard a lot of kids praising it and saying it was a lot of fun. That being said, she also said she'd give it a C rating for kids lol.
But remember, we are just toxic sexists
i believe it
AI would unironically create a better movie than this
The reason ms marvel and the actress works so well is bc she acquired the role from literally being a huge comic nerd which is so damn awesome and a real life dream come true haha
Agree but she’s great in spite of everything. She’s yet to have good direction at all. Pair her up with Kate bishop and heck give the power to Iman Vellani of writing the story.
She's also co writing the current Ms Marvel mini and it's pretty good
Too bad ms marvel is shitty as a character. Marvel comics suck ass rn too
I always hated her for being miss marvel. i realised she has nothing to do with her bad ish show.... yes sometimes she is a bit stiff (could be the scripts) but she does stick to the source material enouch
Agree. However, I am a little worried that with the intense backlash from people who scream random nonsense such as “the m-she-u is ruining everything,” we will not be able to see many more passionate actors such as Iman Vellani take part in these comic book adaptations.
Or have more characters such as Ms. Marvel get major development in movies and TV.
I'm glad Chris Hemsworth said he wouldn't return as Thor unless he thought the story was good. He is my favorite character and I don't want him to be ruined any more.
Iman Vellani as Ms. Marvel deserved the whole movie tbh. It was jarring to see such a passionate performance in a movie so devoid of passion
She still sucks though too
nah she's maximum cringe
@@Haunt888she’s also 16 so of course she is
@@Haunt888 you must have very high standards then
lower them and you might actually enjoy something in life
Good Acting on her part... Still a totally Cringe character she plays though... Really unfortunate,
I love that in almost every review I've seen, everyone loved Ms Marvel and hated everything else
She really is the only good part. Like how did they let someone born in 2002 outact them?
loved is a strong word, more like, they though ms marvel it was the only decent part of the whole movie.
@@Ryan07_20 that doesn't have anything to do with acting ability though. Kids are great at pretending. That's all acting is.
THAT and the fact that Carol Danvers is apparently a much more likeable character in this than she was in her first movie, apparently she's developed a much more relaxing personality and isn't so snobby like the first.
I just thought she was annoying lol
Killer Bean was the magnus opus of action films, no movie has since been able to top it.
The moment Killer Bean killed I gasped and dropped my jaw. I couldn't believe I witnessed a 360 degree spin, flip, and bullet spin kill
@@superbtrilogy5049what got me was when Killer Bean did a slam dunk with a live grenade
the between the legs too@@Doc-Shockaloo1422
Just wait for the game to drop
whenz benz
Loki single handily caring and keeping the mcu together, literally
You know it's serious if Charlie is wearing a black shirt to a Moist Meter.
@@ChristoferrrProductions who asked?
@@mr_lartit’s a bot
Shiny Charlie
He where's a black shirt and his midsection fucking disappears XD
I love how you can see and hear how frustrated he is over just talking about it. That's when you know that it's bad.
First curse sucks
lmao switch to thorn
Don't listen to them first curse, Destiny 2 is cursed enough without you ❤ head up king
When he has emotion in his voice you know it’s bad
@@eranronen573 Screw you. It's my favorite gun in all of gaming.
She gave vibes like the very first boss of every video game. You knew in your heart she should have been a walk through
I saw The Marvels with a friend of mine who hadn’t see Ms Marvel, and the villain is so underdeveloped that my friend just assumed that the villain was featured in previous tv shows
Fun fact: More people will see this review than the actual movie.
Eva fan moment
More people will probably give this video a like than the amount of people who watched the movie in theaters.
Spot on.
@@IHitTheWater what does that even mean
Idk about that but I see your point
I've always felt bad for the actress that plays Miss Marvel. She seems really cute and seems to really care about her role, and is also a huge MCU nerd so she really loves being part of the universe. It's such a shame that her role is being so mismanaged because I think she has a lot of potential
To me she was the only thing in the trailer that looked sort of entertaining.
Who cares!
If it wasn't for Kamala and the cat army, this would've been an unwatchable mess
Doesn't help that she's also playing one of the hated Facist Trio of marvel comic characters that no one can stand.
Ms.Marvel, Captian Marvel, and Riri Williams.
@@BladezeromusIsn’t Kamala beloved?
It’s funny that this and Loki, one of the most thoughtful and intricate projects Marvel has ever made, released on the same day. Goes to show how little cohesion there is behind the scenes between these movies and shows.
Loki has a lot less CGI. I wonder if the amount of CGI they use in films now has anything to do with the quality. I know there is a big problem in film making now where they just gloss over major flaws and say, 'they can fix it in post-production.' With Loki, the CGI was not really a big enough part of the show to act as a crutch for them. Also, it was clearly much more of a passion project given how many references, easter eggs, and nerd shit has been packed into it.
@@Yepmyaccount"Loki has a lot less CGI". Whoa; this movie must be REALLY oversaturated if it has you saying even *LOKI* has a lot less CGI
@@Yepmyaccountits not the cgi. Its the writing and direction. As its always been. Which has been garbage for some time. Films have been bad since iron man 3. Problem is, they went Blackrock Marxist leninist maoist/frankfurt skool propaganda the further they went on.
@@Mr_Jishit's actually not. If we condensed Loki down to the length of the Marvels and just used the CGI scenes, it would be the same or Loki would have more. Loki obviously has a longer runtime lol
@@Mr_JishLoki's special effects were basically where you need them, it's a comics based show after all, none of that 'We can just fix it in post drivel'.
You have to be the only reviewer who caught that Ms. Marvel said Carol can solo the villain. THANK YOU!!!
After they shoved jokes into the middle of a serious conversation about cancer in the last Thor i'm not surprised they started joking after a planet dies in this one
I agree that Ms Marvel was the best part of this movie. I hope she can be in much better projects in the future, the actress deserves the work.
Her show was great and she was great in this movie. Easily the most entertaining newer mcu character
Issue is, they have grown to be so big the only way to continue is to massively over sell and hype up any movie they make. I simply stopped watching anything marvel related after I paid for a ticket just to watch a 2 hour ad for infinity war.
she is also just a chill person irl, i feel bad that they're making her character so bad
@@charlespanache7047ragnorak?
I wish Marvel would just drop her. She has been a literal who since inception and Marvel promotes her like she's Spiderman.
This is certainly one of the Marvel movies of all time, it has a plot and characters and it was recorded by a camera.
truly a masterpiece
And it was released.....
I really wish they didn’t record it with a camera this time
@@KoiAndDopeerm you ruined the joke 🤓
Dead meme already
Honestly, I'm glad I concluded my MCU phase with Guardians 3. It was the last product that had actual heart in it, and honestly even before that things were messy. Part of me wishes they ended things with Endgame.
The fact that Charlie is notably bothered by the incompetence of the writers and direction of this movie says a LOT
why does that say a lot
@@SamuelSwagcause he enjoys bad movies
@@SamuelSwagwell because he is a generally chill guy who doesn’t listen to the noise coming from “toxic fans” some might say. The fact he is this baffled really says a lot
@@SamuelSwag He’s extremely lenient about shitty writing. Bro thinks that marvel movies didn’t start getting bad until a year ago.
This comment gotta be ai
I feel bad for Samuel L Jackson, he waited so long to start acting more in marvel and this is what he is getting
I don’t think we need to feel bad. He’s had a better career overall than most actors ever.
It's so tragic how something as beloved as the MCU has taken such a turn for the worst. There seriously needs to be some sort of reboot that starts after Endgame because trying to make some sort of climax to the level of Infinity War would just be in vain.
Noooo no reboot they need to just stop making these movies and shows
they flew too close to the sun
it really went downhill after endgame. spidermans okay, but it doesnt even need to be in the mcu. The avengers really carried the mcu b4 endgame.
Guardians 3 was great, but that was pretty the much the only above average marvel movie lately. Not counting spiderverse, since that is Sony
Edit: Loki Season 2 has been pretty solid so far as well.
Time travel and multiverses exists no point in rebooting lol
The actress who plays the villain in this movie is engaged to Tom Hiddleston. They also have a child together. The sheer irony makes me laugh. The best MCU villain hooks up with the worst one. 😂😂
"It's wants to be like this whacky, quirky, zany comedy, and then sometimes it wants to be a drama, and then sometimes it wants to be action focused..."
This line describes almost every MCU project post Endgame (and partially includes Endgame as well)
@@zogwort1522but you can overuse it, the entire Marvel brand has been just this one thing and they have been overusing it for decades now.
The mcu always has and always will be like a comic book universe. Serious shit happens but characters will quip and joke about it. Weird ass shit can happen and that might be tonally jarring but it’s just how comic books are. The serious and weird exist in the same universe and sometimes it crosses over
@@zogwort1522 same with most tokusatsu
It can work (just look at Guardians of the Galaxy or pre-wokeness action comedies), but you have to understand timing and tone. You also have to take your characters and story seriously.
Nothing wrong with the concept. Marvel isn't DC and not every character needs to be a Batman
I remember Samuel Jackson criticizing the treatment of his character in the first Ms.Marvel (as much as he could get away with anyway.). He said it didn’t align with his character but maybe imaginably a younger stage of him. Now they’ve got no excuse I guess, they can’t damn help themselves. I also remember them advertising Nick Fury and not the titular character on Twitter back when the ticket sales already seemed to be a lie (common claims of empty theatres and unfavorable general audience reviews) and then they tried advertising it again for streaming. Even Brie Larson seemed sarcastic about the future of her character in some interview I saw a clip of a while back. It’s hard to say Disney wouldn’t care about yet another major financial and brand health loss but you really gotta wonder what the oversight on all this looks like in just wanting a decent movie released.
I hope that James Gunn's DCU kicks off and movie after movie they stomp Marvel's in the box office. That'll give them hopefully somewhat of a waking-up call. But tbh at this point I have no faith in the MCU, there's legit only three movies I gave a shit about after Endgame, the two Spider-Man movies and GOTG Vol 3. I doubt the DCU will even be that good tbh but I trust James Gunn 10x more than the schmucks at Marvel thats for sure
@@eirzaa0429 Marvel deserves to be embarrassed that DC ever did better than them with an extended universe. To me I think they’ll be equally bad I’ll settle for a fickle damning critical reception before carrying on not caring.
I remember Nick Fury from Captain America: The Winter Soldier and I am very sorry that the most mysterious and dangerous spy of the whole series - they completely humiliated
Complementing Iman Vellani was so nice to hear. She's such an amazing actress and super passionate about the projects she's in and her character. I just wish her first breakout role wasn't being so dampened by the state of the MCU.
My favorite part of this movie was the part when the credits rolled, pretty good scene.
Any time anything bad or out of character happens, a Skrull did it.
What do you mean secret invasion is already over with lol
@@mementomori771they're making a joking excuse for the movie's quality
Imagine going to the theater and just seeing Charlie sitting alone in the middle of the theater
Everyone is doing quips in the MCU making Spider-Man's character not really shine when he does this when he fights.
It makes alot of sense when you realize they aren't writing movies, they are writing content. These are a collection of TH-cam sketches written in a form where they can be combined into a movie, or a series at the drop of a hat. They get a bunch of writers to submit a bunch of short drafts for less pay until they manage to jigsaw a script.
So they're writing a comic series that has like 20 pages each lol
@Adanmacreates I mean kinda, but only if people wrote comic books by ripping individual pages out of other comics and stapling them back together in a random order. Then you hand twelve of those to a studio executive who doesn't read comics so he can decide which your twelve collections of random junk gets stapled onto someone else's to make a script long enough to publish. Oh and you don't know if you're writing a one off or a novel so make both at the same time.
Imagine being in the boardroom and brainstorming a cool villain and you come up with someone named Darbin
I'm happy for ms.marvel actress. Lotsa people saying she's the only one that did great and hopefully, at the very least, this movie will get her better roles than this in the future.
I feel bad for all of the actors because they are going to get destroyed by fans because the movie was badly written
@@ilikesurfingbbbf9032funny thing is Brie Larson can act but actual character of Captain Marvel is not interesting
@@Ake-TL Ik but the fans are going to destroy her
@@ilikesurfingbbbf9032I'd say she doesn't deserve it but she's super insufferable and 100% deserves every criticism.
@@ilikesurfingbbbf9032so? brie larson is a npc in real life anyways nobody chris hemsworth and war machine didnt even like her bc shes annoying
Also it needs to be mentioned that in Captain Marvels rage she caused mass genocide, ruined an entire planet of innocent people, could have done something about it to make it right and blatantly doesn’t. How on earth are we supposed to like that character?
An entire planet of singing and subplots about cats sounds like one hell of a fever dream
One for middle-aged women who live alone
I think the word you're looking for is nightmare
More of a nightmare than a dream
That and a box of wine sounds like a single 40 year old womans dream.
I haven't seen a good movie in two months, now that I've seen the Marvels... are three months
As John Boyega said in interviews after Star Wars: Disney doesn’t know what to do with its minority talent and oh boy does it show in Marvel.
This move is so unmoist it should get added to the dry meter
I love how Marvel has a billion awesome villains to pull from and still chooses to use... Dar Benn? Is that the name?
Then when they choose a good villain, they completely butcher it. Specifically Ultron, my fucking God that was the worst iteration of Ultron ever
@@gjfk Don't forget cloud daddy Dormammu
@@gjfklets not forget how they fumbled with Kang and won't be using him going forward…. But Ultron could have been a massive threat, as shown in the What If series; but they massacred a potential story arc that would of been very interesting.
Dar Benn? I hardly know her! - Nick Fury 2023
The name's actually Dahr Mann
My favorite part was when morbius showed up and revealed that he was the 4th marvel and then they all said "it's marvelin time" and marveled all over the bad guy
Not as crazy as some people might think. Honestly I'd take the absurdity.
I really think what happened at marvel is they thought up a kickass ending to the story. They put a nice bow on it, kissed it goodnight, then sent it to the masses. Looking on lovingly at their creation; then the investors called, and were like: "Haha that was awesome, what next?" And everyone at marvel collectively shit their pants.
Basically
If only the MCU was based on another form of media that has 60 years of stories behind it people already love
@@megamandrn001I’m probably dumb for asking this, but what do you mean
@@succuled1969he means that there are SO MANY good marvel comics to pull from if they need new stories, but Disney still seems to want to keep the source material at arms length from the movies. Like, if they need new stories, Marvel comics have been going nonstop for over half a century now.
@@succuled1969he means comics, they should, by all means, be able to adapt content for a long time, but some of the recent movies feel like they’ve run out, when in reality, they haven’t
“I expected nothing, and I’m still let down.”
-Dewey
Truly empowering, this film, these characters are in fact women, and this is in fact a film.
Loki had a great finale though, recommended 100%
I dunno, I can’t say I have any expectations for this movie. I think the actresses are great, Kamala’s is especially really good at what she does with her character. It just, Marvel doesn’t seem to know what to do at all.
valid
We need a redo of the multiverse saga.
Keep the good projects, redo the old ones and scrap the random, unnecessary ones
Definitely better than Quantamania. They also did actually show Dar Ben’s back story. It’s not amazing but it’s not Marvel’s worse. Quantamania and Secret Invasion are for worse.
I believe today that the beginning of the end of the MCU wasn't after End Game but after the release of the first guardians of the galaxy. That combo of comedy and serious was so successful that every director has since tried to do their own version of that style.
It’s a shame, too. Because those movies are so good. But, it’s because James Gunn (for the most part) knows how to juggle the silly and the serious. A lot of these other directors just… don’t.
have NONE of you watched Loki?
Was it the director or suits at marvel forcing it on the director? None of the films directors had much say other than Gunn
Probably shouldn't say that till you watch Loki, especially season 2. Honestly one of the best things Marvel has put out even before endgame
@@iCore7Gaming
I have and it's not exactly the savior of marvel like people hype it up to be😊
Our expectations were at zero but Marvel managed to score a negative integer wow
Crazy how this and the Loki finale came out on the same day, polar opposites in quality…
Of course they didnt.
Remember that Simpsons gag about Duff and Duff light coming from the same pipe? Same with this movie and Loki.
probably because 1 is so shit the other mid tier feel like good.
Garbage isn’t the polar opposite of incomprehensible garbage
@@zogwort1522I thought season 1 was mediocre. Felt like they stretched out the story to make more episodes and I hated Sylvie's face.
Season 2 I watched 4 episodes and was stunned....it was good.....though I don't like the kangs actor overacting, its like that guy is in a different show 🤣
Everyone is in a Loki marvel show and Kang actor is acting like a Saturday morning cartoon....quite horrible
It's crazy how many haters there are now who haven't even watched a single moment form that show. Everything about Loki shows that the MCU has come up with an actually good show but people refuse to believe it. I don't know if this is because of the reputation modern MCU has built around itself but, Loki is definitely one of the top 3 superhero shows I've watched only behind daredevil and the punisher.
Marvel movies these days are like my english essays. I dont know what im writing some of its too fast some too slow and the order is wrong and all over the place
When Ms Marvel looked around and said "what, we're some kind of Marvel Squad?" i cried golden tears of pure bliss
Post endgame they should have launched into the villains saga. With the loss of the avengers there's a power vacuum and we should follow some of the greatest villains rise to fill it. A mafia/ godfather type of film showing kingpins climb back to the top in new York would have been amazing post endgame and show how city life adapted and continued without the avengers. Kingpin could have led into hawkeye and our introduction to Kate Bishop and the early concept of a new avengers team In the future. Doctor strange multiverse of madness should have been R rated and focused on wanda the darkhold and hell introducing mephisto and setting up characters that rely on him like Dr doom or ghost rider in the future. A character piece film following Dr dooms birth in latvaria his mother's basis in magic and her being taken by mephisto leading to him moving to new York and his study of science and technology to save his mother only for it to fail and leave him horrifically scarred leading him to adopt his moniker of Dr doom and vowing to master both magic and science to get his vengeance on mephisto. Ms marvel should be the light hearted Street level film to help ground audiences and introduces us to our second member of a potential new avengers. I'm bored of writing but you get the idea they needed to rebuild from the ground up.
HOLLYWOOD LET THIS GUY COOK
Hire this man rn
This is how most fans think and would love for it to happen.
Only goes to show that people who are truly behind this just does not get cbm long term and storytelling
Finally, a fan responds with more than just “weh dis aux deuxdeux buddah nau deux bedduhbweh”.
Thing is, Sony is already failing at the bad guy route with Morbius and Venom. Also, Feige was going antihero in order to introduce Thunderbolts.
Frankly, the only bright spot to look forward to is seeing Harrison Ford turn into Red Hulk.
I think what happened with the MCU is that it got so big that the budget on every movie increased exponentially in the corporate suits made them play every movie as safe as possible to have as little risk of losing money as possible.
And end up losing more than just money.
They also specifically hired women, young writers, an TV directors to make their massive multi-million dollar movies.
- Women, who are absolutely capable of doing great work, but society is so focused on "making things right" women are now being forced into positions they are not trained and ready for. Specifically because of their vaginas. This is getting female writers and directors onto projects they are not ready for, as they are coming off of Indie Films or Mid-Budget films and are given HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars to operate a star-studded crew. Disney does this because it is literally still cheaper to hire women instead of men, not because they are being "diverse".
- TV Directors are also a massive problem. Of the men that Disney and Marvel hire now, they go for TV directors with a few series in their credits. Ant Man: Quantumania was written by a man who has done: 6 Episodes of Rick and Morty, 7 Episode of Miracle Workers, and 238 Episodes of "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" that has other writers. Then they gave him Ant Man. TV Directors are easy to manipulate because this is "their big break", and are cheaper to hire.
- Young Writers are desperate, and are extremely easy to manipulate. They have no respect from anyone in the industry, so nobody will defend them. They are bright-eyed and motivated by passion, which means you can absolutely pay them less because they are "just happy to be here, part of the MCU they grew up with". They are also a penny a dozen, let alone a dime.
nothing safe about this garbage. I feel a bit violated and I havent even been able to motivate myself to watch and/or finish a few of this phase’s projects
they gotta start knocking an hour off these movies or sum
Honestly I had some moments that made me chuckle but what really made me laugh was when someone fell mid movie and started to crawl on the floor, the fights scenes weren’t the worst and the cgi was great I feel bad for the artists that had to work on this
Funny how they wrote her as such a strong hero it’s impossible to make a good villain that can beat her 😂. Great job
I think a large part of it is that they're simply too scared or afraid of pitting Cap Marvel against any strong foe that could actually beat her. From her first solo movie to now, her main antagonists only survive until the end based on plot relevance. I think they're just to afraid to show us, the audience, her getting beaten up and that ppl may come after them for showing one of their few female protagonist as anything other than "the absolute strongest at any given time or situation" like even Thor gets his ass kicked in all his movies to build tension and give a payoff when he finally defeats them at the end. But Nah, Cap Marvel is simply too strong to ever really be challenged, apparently.
@@Jamaltc15Basically the Mary Sue trope
@@oxoboo Mary Sue tropes can actually be pretty cool if done correctly (look at Tanya the Evil), but marvel just.. yeah.
@@ArtFromHertanya the evil is a sociopath japanese middle aged salary man
@@Jamaltc15She got whooped a couple times by Thanos, but honestly everyone did lmao
One of the worst things to happen to the MCU in retrospect is the avengers movies having good comedic timings. We praised them at the time for being great at transitioning between the quips into high octane high tension moments. The quips between characters was an addition to them not the focus, but over time without the guidance of the directors who knew and understood how to pace the comedy and jokes between the drama we've been left with a puzzle where none of the pieces line up with each other so everything sticks out more and more.
This was really enjoyable to listen to and apparently it's much more enjoyable than the movie.
Cringe
@@HeXxGuyy😢😢😢😢😢
@@Khqra cringe
Two planets got destroyed in this movie and the cast of heros didn't give a single fuck. They didn't even help the people on the second planet they just left 😂😂😂
Congrats on 14m btw Charlie!!! Well deserved as every sub is, and hope for many millions more for ya!
Bro did not care 😹🙏
Watching The Marvels couldn't have been easy. I applaud you.
The problem is clearly that she hulk should’ve showed up and called the audience too stupid to realize the complexity of this “”””””””””modern””””””””” masterpiece.
i would have respected the movie more if that happend.
I would love that! Very on brand for them.
“Your too stupid to understand the complexities of this modern masterpiece, this movie isn’t stupid YOUR STUPID”
Not enough quotations
The problem is clearly that they didn't have a scene in the movie where they break the 4th wall and tell everyone who doesn't like the movie that they are sexist and support the evil patriarchy that is totally suppressing feminist ideas... that are all over the media for some reason. Hmm I wonder if you're actually suppressed if your ideas are the mainstream view.
Dar-Benn is literally the worst "sympathetic" villain MCU ever tried
The Krees genocide the Skrulls and invade planets, Carol was 100% justified in taking out their leader, it's not her fault they're so incompetent that the moment their leader is dead, the empire crumbles, and it's definately not Carol's fault that these dumbasses went into a civil war that destroyed their own sun and atmosphere, at any point the Krees could've say "well this war is killing our planet, maybe we should stop?" but they didn't