I beat orphan on my first try, but I think I was overleveled, and I cheesed him. Literally ran in circles waiting for opportunities to punish him with sprinting attacks with logarius wheel
@@1.21gigawatts2 its not a clip and it was pre determined to go on the clips channel iin a fashion quite like his main channel therefore ironic and therefore very hehehaha
The longest I've ever spent on a boss is around 2 years. Not because of the difficulty, but the shear fear it would instill within my soul. It was Mr. Freeze from Batman Arkham City and I was around 8, 9 years old. His voice, the crimson laser eyes, the sound of his boots stomping on the frozen GCPD floor - all enough for 8 year old me to start a new save every time I got there. Later on in life I managed to summon up enough courage to just attempt the demon and won. I'll never forget it.
For young me it was killer croc in arkham asylum i actually thought my heart was about to stop i was full of adrenaline anf i thought i was about to die my heartrate was probably 200 bpm😂
2:56 Charlie saying he died 28 to what he considers one of the hardest bosses ever is hilarious. 28 is literally me still in the "figuring out how I'm gonna do this" phase lol
meh post nerf isn't that much easier people just learned the good stuff you can use against him which would also work on pre-nerf like rot/frost/bleed, spamming summons and if you're a mage spamming rock sling
The Nameless King was the first boss that completely broke my spirit. I eventually took him down, but not after days of attempts. For me Nameless King is certainly one the hardest bosses of all time.
Sword Saint Ishhin from Sekiro hands down. No contest. It took me like 3 nights of a few hours of attempts. It was by far the most rewarding boss to beat though. Spawn of Oghdos tongue grabs were basically impossible for me to dodge no matter the timing.
The most difficult part about Isshin the Glock Saint is having to learn his attack patterns in all 3 phases, phase 2 being the hardest IMO. But I wouldn't say he's the hardest simply because his attacks are pretty telegraphed. It's definitely the most fun fight in the game, but I'd say the demon of hatred is a much more difficult and frustrating fight.
@@1dingerr id say that inner genichiro, owl and especially inner isshin fights are harder than demon of hatred. But not many know they even exist since little people actually decide to take on gauntlets.
Of all of these, Isshin Sword Saint was the best designed boss fight. It actually tested all of your skills in Sekiro up to the very end. You had to legitimately be good at the game and learn all of its mechanics to take him down. Definitely the most satisfying
By the time I finally beat Isshin, I had an identity crisis about my ability as a gamer, seriously wondering if I possessed the fundamental ability to beat him. I actually cried a little when I finally finished him off. Top ten best bosses of all time for me
Before even watching the video im going to assume Charlie's hardest boss in gaming is going to be Commander Niall from Elden Ring since it literally summoned a giant Mosquito Hawk irl to attack him and nearly cost him his life.
every souls boss is a piece of cake anyways compared to actual hard bosses in videogames. Theres MMOs ffs, those always have fights designed for only .1% of the community to even beat, with some bragging rights only rewards as incentive. Its completely normal for a group of actual sweaty ass greasy god gamers taking on a new max difficulty raid blind to take 100s of hours for their first clear, and even for solo bosses theres examples of a max engrage fight being first cleared over a year after release. charlie and his normie hours ass havent seen sheit
@@SuperbChicken Okay but HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE FUCKERS? We have the benefit of hindsight but if you're in your room and all of a sudden a giant fuck-off bug starts flying around my room IM GONNA HAVE A PANIC ATTACK AND ENACT PROTOCOL OKAY?
Probably not the hardest I've done but the one that comes to mind in the "bosses that made me suffer" category was the valkarie queen on highest difficulty
Very very difficult. One I really struggled with was the blood starved beast in blood borne, I don’t know why. It took me easily over a hundred tried I almost quit the game
New game plus Sigrun was absolute torture to get through on GMGOW, using the other zeus gauntlet and stuff made it a literal no hit or 2 hit boss depending on if you have a resurrection stone.
I played Jedi survivor on launch, did normal difficulty because I wanted to get a feel for the game. I got to oggdo, and put well over 50 attempts into him over like 2 days. then i quit the game for a few months, and in early june i returned to the game to beat the crap out of oggdo, and after probably 30 more attempts, i got it. Yes he's an optional boss, yes he's probably meant for end game, but i needed him dead. I could not live with myself if i didn't kill him.
Nameless king swings the opposite way, so he can roll catch a lot of people. EDIT, plus the king of storms having a terrible camera can make people waste a lot of estus before the real fight begins.
I will forever have the words "I am malenia, blade of miquella" burned into my brain. It took me two sessions 6 hours each before I beat her using no summons and only a sword and shield. When it finally happened I was literally in tears. Thank you Elden Ring
I feel your pain. Im currently dying to her and I havent even reached her 2nd phase. Her flurry/whirlwind attack destroys me and I dont see how to stop it
@@alexinivai08 Use a shield to block the first flurry and then spam dodge the 2nd and third. You have to time your dodge the split second right before she starts her flurry and dodge at an angle not straight forwards or backwards. Trust me the second phase is the real boss fight eventually you will have a 100% success rate on phase one its not hard once it's all muscle memory. Just have an answer for all her moves and stick to them until you can execute them consistently. Watch videos on all her patterns and make a plan and practice. Good luck!
Absolute Radiance is by far the most difficult boss I have ever beat. Not only is it the end of a boss gauntlet that is around 30-1 hour it also takes a lot of rng to not get screwed over as her attacks overlap each other. It took 2 months which was way less than my attempts on any of my lvl 1 fights in all souls games.
Same for me, i got to the end of the pantheon 5, fought and died to radiance, then spent genuinely 30 HOURS practicing before I could beat her like 5 times in a row. Took me a few tries to get through the pantheon again but luckily I killed radiance my first time going up there. Hellish boss fight where if two moves overlap your done
Look up paradoxx D28 pump it up. Harder than guitar hero because it's actually physically exhausting. I think only like 4 people in the world have ever even passed it. No one even close to getting a full combo.
Rick the Door Technician in Jedi Survivor was insane. Took me probably 100+ tries to beat. Honestly I can’t think of anything I’ve ever done in my life that was anywhere near as difficult as that boss.
I finally switched my stance and would use charged shots with the blaster to stop the occasional one shot dash he does. Still took me awhile but once I switched i immediately had hope
Ishinn is the only boss I had to stop and come back another day to beat. The best part is that at no point I felt like the fight was Bullshit. I loved it and it's my favorite souls boss of all time
Bro has never taken multiple days to beat a boss, that’s insane. Radiant AbsRad in Hollow Knight took me literal weeks of attempts. All of the Sekiro bosses went much more quickly, but I haven’t done them hitless yet.
Ishin was the first boss that I gave up on beating for about 6 months, I then came back to beat him. On my second playthrough, I beat him on my 7th try
What I love about the souls games is how there are so many builds and ways to approach something. Everyone has a different experience and difficulty with individual bosses. I beat radahn and maliketh first try, but got wrecked by mohg and malenia, and vise versa with my friends
I've only ever beaten absrad in the hall of gods. To this day I still haven't finished p5. I've gotten insanely close (as in absrad final phase), but have failed every time.
honestly by the time you get to absolute radiance you are a goat so the difficulty feels perfectly scaled. in terms of learning the boss and then executing a winning run in the moment, i remember hating grey prince zote more lul
@@blossomcherrypink Finally reached Absolute Radiance today and after hours and hours of attempts still haven't being able to beat her yet on the Hall of Gods... I always die on the third phase. Frustrating asf. I can deal pretty easily with most of the other bosses now tho. Even beat GPZ on Radiant.
I just recently beat the Pantheon of Hallownest All Bindings and it is by far the hardest thing I've ever done in a video game. Absolute Radiance herself took me 3-5 hrs of practice to do when I was doing Normal P5, definitely a strong contender for hardest (vanilla) boss.
I think one of the coolest part of the souls games is how different each player's experience can be. The two bosses I died the most on were Tree Sentinel and Malenia. Although to be fair, Elden Ring was my first game in the series, and I refused to skip the Tree Sentinel just because I was having fun, and felt like I was doing progressively better over time.
@@reservationatdorsias3215 That's actually pretty interesting to me. I had a bit of trouble with Margit early on, but Morgott was my only demigod one shot.
absolute radiance is probably one of the hardest i’ve beaten, but laurence on NG+ just made me quit, i had an easy time with most bb bosses, but laurence just seemed like a damage sponge that would hit you when it didn’t seem like he should
For me it's probably Absolute Radiance from Hollow Knight. I know, I know... Most of the challenge doesn't come from the boss fight itself, although it is extremely difficult. But the only way you can access the boss fight is by completing a gauntlet, fighting 42 bosses in a row... without dying. Once you actually get to Absolute Radiance, you are exhausted and the nerves make mistakes very easy in a fight where mistakes are instantly punished. Other than that, Demon of Hatred from Sekiro was pretty tough as well.
I couldn't even beat normal radiance. Ended up quitting the game at Radiance after getting to the second phase twice fighting it 4 hours a day for a couple weeks
I’d put Vergil 3 DMD over any Souls boss. He can’t be juggled, is ridiculously aggressive, hits hard, and if you don’t take him out of DT he’ll regain too much health.
It took me a week to beat Ornstein and Smough. It was before the launch of DS3, I wanted to try DS1. I instantly felt in love with the game, until that damn boss… Every day after work from 6 to 10 I kept trying without any quit in me. I was playing and talking with my girl on the phone the moment I beat them… I will never ever forget the relief i felt on that day,I did it… Never played the game after that tho… One day I will be back
O&S for me too. I reckon it took me over 100 attempts across multiple days. But when I did it, I knew I had "learned how to play Souls". That said, nothing has taken me like Sekiro. I'm currently on NG+5 whereas I never played any of DS1/2/3 more than once.
For me it was Fatalis from MHW Iceborne. It was my first ever truly difficult boss that took me well over 100 deaths and four days of on and off play to beat him. Probably my favorite boss of all time too, he was so fucking badass and very fun.
Wish Charlie didn’t just dismiss MH as “not for him”, I’d love to see how he’d rank some black dragons with other game bosses. Fatalis was so satisfying to finally beat, I’ve gone and killed him almost a hundred more times since then just for fun.
@S. Bregnest tbh it's fair. Monster hunter is my favorite game franchise ever next to the souls games, but I can definitely see how it's not for everyone
@@s.bregnest2857 Me as well, I personally find fighting him with Greatsword to be the most satisfying, and I even did a heroics run with SnS. And yeah, I really would like to see how a souls player ranks MH bosses compared to souls. Because while the actual game and progression is probably harder for souls, I feel like Monster Hunter has the harder endgame bosses.
Best part, the spawn is just a nod to the first optional boss in the first game. Zanny memed on it a ton, when fighting Trilla mentioning "You will not take the title of most deaths, that belongs to Oggdo!"
I thought this was a reference to that boss. I ended up dropping the first game because of how much I acted that one boss and how it was designed. I don't understand why they would include it again in the sequel, it's just bad.
I need to start keeping track of my boss attempts. I think Eldest of the Black Rabbit Brotherhood boss in Lies of P would be a good start lol. The boss is absolutely ridiculous because they throw one huge boss at you that is absolutely relentless while at the same time having to defeat 3 other little mini bosses at the same time that are extremely fast.
One boss I’ll never forget is Fatalis from Monster Hunter World Iceborne. It took me a good couple weeks on my first clear but I’ve got a buddy who’s been trying on and off for a year. Still hasn’t beat him.
Alatreon in 3U and Apex Rajang in 4U kicked my ass for far far longer tbf. Dunno if it’s just because I played them first or if it’s just how ridiculous those monsters are
He was challenging but I would say fights like Demon of Hatred were much harder. Idk, a lot of Sekiro fights post Genichiro all felt pretty mangable and winnable. The only really difficulty spikes were Owl, Isshin, and the Demon. I would say Guardian Ape but he becomes a total joke once you learn to stop being aggresive and use thrust attacks.
Kinda same. Sword Saint took me like 6 hours spread over a whole weekend. But I loved every second of it. Usually I can get easily frustrated. But not on this fight for whatever reason.
For me the worst part about inner father is his mist raven 2 quick swipe attack. Just nearly fucking un-parryable since the second attack comes out so soon after the first. Still haven’t bothered to finish him, although I was too stubborn to use kuro’s charm and remove demon bell
Boss difficulty design is something I am always fascinated by, especially with how it is different between game genres. One of my favorite bosses for both their design and difficulty is Fatalis from Monster Hunter World Iceborne. It has unpredictable but fair attack patterns, dynamic behaviors, and great scaling for the endgame. I also like really like Orphan of Kos and pre-nerf Radahn.
You're sleeping on Arch-Tempered Velkhana. I was like "it's only Velkhana 😂 how hard can it b- OMG WTF STOP PLS!! 😨". Both Fatalis & AT Velkhana are 2 of the greatest videogame fights of all time.
The only mechanic that changed in the Radahn fight is the speed of the meteors. Everything else is the exact same. Go fight him underleveled and you will experience “pre-nerfed Radahn” again. It was never that hard of a fight, players just know the game more so they difficulty spectacle has wilted over time.
I agree with Fatalis and AT Velkhana. I’ve beaten every boss in DS1 and 3 at level 1. I’ve also beaten all of Elden Ring and DS2 normally. Fatalis was by far my hardest fight in comparison. I always ended up losing to the timer due to playing cautiously and not wanting to greed hits which I guess is conditioning from Souls. I also ended up at Fatalis before even MR100 because I was too stubborn to grind in guiding lands and vehemently refused to do it with a group. AT Velkhana was also a nightmare as well.
I think this also brings up what makes the Souls games so good. Difficulty should be less about damage differences and health but more about a fair opportunity. With a lot of games that have difficulty setting, the highest difficulty usually means you do less damage and take more, and the enemies do more and take less. Whereas the Souls series makes combat almost like a dance. Punish windows are very important for boss fights, and I think Souls does those very well (for the most part), much better than other action/fighting games.
Terraria/Calamity Mod did this very well i find, while difficulty does also change the life and defence stats around, the challenge is mostly derived from a new AI/Moveset
My friends always try to recommend me souls-like games, but they are never as good. What you just said is exactly why, other souls-like games can't find that boss fight that's almost like a dance feel.
I think Sigrun in god of war on the hardest difficulty took me the longest. I would hop on and try for like 20 minutes every now and then but one day I sat down for three whole hours before I was able to get her. And the crazy part is that when I did finally beat her, I did it hitless and that was euphoric as fuck. Still can’t believe it, my palms started sweating so much more when I realized towards the end of the fight that she had yet to hit me. No boss has ever taken me nearly that long
My toughest was probably Laurence from Bloodborne. Can't remember how many attempts it took but I do remember that when I did my heart was beating super fast and I jumped up cheering and felt like I was gonna pass out lmao.
So glad to see somebody say this. I thought it was just me. He’s always the boss I dread fighting most on replays. Idk why but he just gives me a ton of trouble. Maria I’ve got down real good and usually can one attempt her now. Same with most others. Orphan is still challenging to but I can usually beat him sooner than Laurence.
Another thing I noticed is in fallen order against oggdo bogdo when he does the tongue move you can force pull it and it stays stretched out, and then hitting the tongue with the lightsaber does big damage. This was a cool punish in the first game but it’s not in this one. Even in the force echo when you fight og oggdo and spawn of oggdo at the same time, you can’t do it to either of them, so they didn’t just copy the old AI for oggdo, they gave him spawn’s AI. I don’t know if it’s a bug that you can’t do this but it’s definitely a feature I wish was still there.
This boss is basically taking the meme of Oggdo from the first game since when you first encounter him in Fallen Order, you haven’t unlocked Force Pull yet so you have almost nothing to work with against him and he kicks your ass. So Spawn of Oggdo is as hard for a leveled up player as Oggdo was for the brand new player.
7-th force bossfight from Alien Soldier Sega Mega Drive game was insane. Same with Vader's final bossfight in Super Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back Wally Warbles on Expert gave me a hard time too
I think it’d be really funny if they fixed everything else in the game and just left Spawn of Oggdo bugged just as a testament to the hardest boss fight in the series 😂
@@partymix1997 the only reason its in the game was cause it was a meme that oggdo boggdo was the hardest boss in the game, although in hindisght he was ridiculously easy everyone just fought him early game and were all completely unprepared, anyways people went with the gag and it was just an ongoing joke that oggdo boggdo was the hardest boss so respawn thought it was funny to add him into this game and make him way harder and lock the poncho behind him, its why cameron monahgan was making such a joke out of the poncho at SWC, its all one big piss take
I really enjoy these more personalized clips for the second channel. I appreciate the condensed VODs but it’s like getting bonus content when it’s like this
I believe that sekiro is truly one of the hardest games ever made…on your first attempt. On new game plus, I practically one attempted most bosses except for isshin because sekiro has a perfect combat system. It’s extremely punishing and hard to learn but once you get it, you’ve got it.
Apparently sekiro was supposed to be a Tenchu revival but it got scrapped. theres a super cool mod with a really well made hd render player model of Rikimaru. If only the tenchu fans got the game that could have been. Sekiro being as good as it was was the biggest tease to the tenchu community
Absolute radiant got me thinking about humanity, politics, human physiology and Astronomy. No connection about the boss whatsoever, just made me do a whole existential crisis.
The final boss of the DLC in Drakenguard 3 is absolute hell. Being a Yoko Taro game instead of the final boss being something you fight it's a random rhythm game. A rhythm game that lasts 6 minutes and fakes you out twice. Worst part? If you mess up a SINGLE time you have to do everything from the beginning. Also, you have to watch a minute long cutscene each time. I remember hearing once Yoko Taro made this the worst boss ever as a troll. I can believe it.
monster hunter while a good game it just filled with bunch of sponge that took 20+ minutes to beat and i aint comparing sponge fight to a mechanic fight like souls game. not saying the game is bad. just saying souls and monster hunter are completely different take on “boss”. and you use a lot of consumables which isnt the case in the majority of souls fights. both are good game since i played both just different kind of “hard”. its like comparing Getting over it to Only Up. both have same general objective which is to go up by platforming but they have such different kind of “hard”
yea also oggdo post endgame when youre upgraded is ridiciulously easy, literally nothin aside from the tongue one shots you and you have way more tools at your disposal
release radahn was a demon and worthy of the title of being the strongest demigod during the shattering. its a real shame he got nerfed, they unnerfed him but he's just not the same anymore. Limitbreakers made a comparison video on it quite a while ago and the difference is stark.
I always wondered why Radahn was INSANE on my first run through. At least 40+ tries with summons. But then I could easily one shot him on new game +'s. I hope they make a true Radahn fight in the DLC, where he isn't nerfed and you fight him at full power.
Have to vouch for Yozora in the KH3 DLC. It's a shame people didn't give that DLC a chance after their experience with the base game, because it contains some of the best bosses ever designed. I had to stop and literally take notes on every one of his attacks to study a proper way to handle it, and it took me days to beat. Not even Isshin had me against the ropes that much.
I spent like 3 days straight trying to beat Yozora. There's a section towards the end of the battle that I still have no idea what the heck I did to get past. Regardless, he was certainly a fair boss by all accounts. I don't remember there being any unavoidable attacks. Definitely one of the best bosses out there.
I only found her after getting all the end game armor and stuff and thought she was the easiest of the valkyries. The fire one was the most challenging because I was severely underdeveloped.
I think the hardest boss in all of gaming is still either of the superbosses in Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Demi-Fiend or Satan. You have to prepare the entire game just to be able to do it and then you need a calculator plus precise play the entire time to manage. And even then there's an element of luck to both of them.
I had to scroll way too far down to find someone mentioning Demifiend when he was the first boss that I thought of too. It baffles me how SMT isn't more popular considering Persona 5's popularity. You'd think more people would actually TRY to learn more about the parent series of their supposedly favorite JRPG of all time.
Thank god someone finally mentioned the Demi Fiend, I wish there were as many SMT fans as there were Persona fans considering that Persona is a spinoff of SMT
@@peronafanman can't speak for everyone, but for me? Persona 4 and 5 are only 50% battle with the rest being character, story and side activities. Most of the smt games are 90% battle with a smidgen of story between each dungeon. I enjoy the battles but I need something to do besides just battle
DDS Demifiend is the only correct answer to this question. The amount of people in the entire world who have actually beat him legitimately is probably a 3 digit or very low 4 digit number.
The tongue on Spawn of Oggdo is absolutely fuckin broken because if you're descending from your double jump the game just warps you onto his tonge and its one shot.
For me it's Alatreon from Monster Hunter World Iceborne. I had to craft an entirely new armour set, grind out the endgame, just to stand a chance against it. And then the fight itself is just incredible, so many exhilirating patterns you need to learn and you must play aggressive or he will just kill you with the Escaton judgement. I'm normally a quiet gamer but I think the entire neighborhood heard me scream when the black dragon was finally slain.
@@aliemironay3452 I found Fatalis much much easier than Alatreon. There are so many options to beat him. Alatreon you really have to play the game exactly how the game demands. But I also did both solo. Maybe Fatalis is harder with friends because he hits harder Idk.
@@ProrogonLordoftheJags I found fatalis easier too, Alatreons only worse because of the element dmg mark you need to hit to suppress him, and his horn breaks take a long ass time without excellent bait tactics that dont always work. I killed Fatalis Solo back to back 5 times before I beat alatreon solo. That fucker
Finally someone says it. KH3 Crit Mode with pro codes, most bosses are harder than any Souls game boss (even disney bosses). Yozora alone is on a different level.
All of Ninja Gaiden 2 on Xbox 360 Master Ninja. You are constantly being spammed with exploding shurikens or fireballs (even in multipleboss fights), and the enemies in that game do not wait or hesitate, they all just spam constantly. When I was a kid having that Ryu gamer profile pic was like the coolest thing ever.
I had the hardest time with Great Shinobi Owl in Sekiro because of how small the arena was and the fact he fought dirty. It was a good fight, but dang...
Owl was definitely one of those bosses who pressured you at every moment you had to equally pressure him as well in order to win 😭 i was mind boggled when he mikri counterd me
Imo Owl Father was easy af same with Sword Saint Isshin. Inner Father on the other hand beat the ever living fuck out of me while practicing his memory fight. Out of all my practices out of 15, I died at least 7 times while taking 8 dubs which felt kinda shitty. Inner Father was tough mainly for that one move where he can pull off a myst raven double tap out of nowhere. That shit tilts me off every single time he spams that while on idol or in battle flow.
Maybe not the ‘hardest’ final boss, but the hardest challenge in gaming that I’ve done/seen is the Inferno in OSRS. Usually it’s considered a big success if you can beat it in under 100 attempts, and amazing I’d you can do it under 50. with each attempt ranging from 30 mins to 2 or 3 hours, the mechanics aren’t as trying as some of the major souls-like bosses, but the fact it has a ton of ‘one mistake=restart’ mechanics and can last for so long makes it the hardest in my eyes. Not to mention the nerves and the sweaty gamer social implications of having the cape that shows completion. It’s prestigious enough that people who can’t do it will go to the black market and pay hundreds of dollars (against the rules, bannable,) just for someone else to beat it on their account. 100% the best feeling I’ve had from a video game was beating all 69 of the waves and I don’t think that anything’ll beat it
For me, it would have to be Fatalis from Monster Hunter World. I got light-headed in my hands went numb when I finally killed him, never had a feeling from any other boss since.
Whole of monster hunter is like bloodborne boss rush on crack,that boss bezelgeuse or whatever you hear the start of the theme shits real,yeah that game solo was hard
I know this may not count because it doesn't count as a "souls like", but the frog from everhood took him a lot of tries and like 3 and a half hours of uninterrupted suffering on the hardest difficulty
@@TDJunkie226right, he literally just streamed having to kill TWO frogs tn in tht jedi one now 😂 died so many times i was able to order food get it delivered n eat and he still was fighting them 🤣
After having just started my journey of Souls games and just beat bloodborne and the old hunters dlc and on the final boss off my first playthrough of Sekiro. Father Owl of Hirata estate has taken me the LONGEST out of any boss in any game.. ever!
No, I didn't take that many tries for shinobi owl but daddy owl was just wrecking me, but I have done all boses on first playthrough now with dragon ending :)@@bruhder5854
Brooo I played Elden Ring a day before release on console due to the New Zealand thing, and man no spoilers and not seeing any videos and playing a day before I was in love, and still to this day Radahn is my number one ER boss and Godfrey 2nd
Charmless bell demon Father owl is by far the hardest fight for me. That shit was ridiculous. The added pressure of having to perfect parry every attack made it that much harder for me. Such an amazing fight overall. One of froms best imo.
For me it was Lou in guitar hero 3. Took me so so so many tries over a period of months. I’ve played almost all of the souls like games from software has made but finally completing that felt amazing.
Isshin the sword saint absolutely messed me up for months. I spent days on him and eventually took a hiatus from Selkirk and eventually came back months later. After hours upon hours of dying to this old man I finally beat him
For me, only 3 bosses in gaming gave me a problem, everything else was okay. But these 3 still give me trauma to this day, and those bosses are unsurprisingly as anyone understands is mist noble, rick soldier of god, and rick the door technician. Those are the top 3 bosses in gaming
Release Radahn solo melee at level like 35-45ish with a +4 sword is an experience that I am eternally grateful I made the choice to experience, and I truly wish I could do it again. Took 4 hours.
Burning Freezing Eruzerion in Monster hunter frontier took me over an year to beat it solo(w1st solo clear was 6 months after release) Its defenitly one of the hardest boss in gaming history.
For me it was the final boss of Drakengard 3 ending D. For those that don't know, it is a rhythm boss fight but the camera is being controlled by a monkey high on every drug imaginable. I think it took me 3-5 days trying to beat it.
1 is harder imo. I spent a week mapping out the rhythms so I could memorize it instead of using an online guide, and it's brutal. The amount of math and pure rhythm tech needed for it gave me cramps.
@@pentexsucks43 1 is hard for sure but at least with that one the camera isn't going crazy and you can pause to see which notes are coming next. With 3 you need to be good at following the changing rhythm and also not get cucked by that last note after the ending dialogue starts.
I was thinking after I beat him “this honestly could be one of the hardest bosses I’ve ever fought” especially with the fps dips. Holy hell was I determined to beat him though lol
You know hornet? The boss from hallow knight that took you two tries to beat. It took me over 12 hours cut down to two sessions to beat her, I think I actually damaged my physical body during that fight.
I’m glad you cleared it up at the end by saying Ishen was the hardest boss. The skill required to beat him consistently, which you’ll need if you want to get a platinum trophy in sub 200hrs, Is just astronomical. To this day there’s still attacks he does that idk when or how to properly parry. I never felt cheated tho, I always felt that each death, reluctantly as I didn’t want to admit it, was my fault. The flip side to it all being that every victory against Ishen felt like I genuinely accomplished something special. That’s just good boss design.
I’m sure there’s many ppl who got the plat in under 50hrs. That’s not what I explained. I stated IF you wanted to do it under 200hrs you have to essentially beat the game multiple times back to back going through multiple new game plus cycles. To be fair I didn’t fully elaborate on that part as I thought the concept was implied, but I forget the internet is autistic, so allow me to explain clearly now. The hardest trophy in the game is Height of Technique. To get this trophy your options are; A: Beat the game somewhere past NG+ 3 or 4 (I can’t remember where I was at when I got it.) B: Grind 200hrs for it by killing the same set of enemies on a normal play through.
Since I’m already at it. I might as well just explain what the fucking trophy Height of Technique is, since it’s obvious that the first and only thought coming to everyone’s mind appears to be, “uhh 200hrs?? U r trash brah I do it in 40.” The trophy Height of Technique is unlocked by obtaining every skill in the game. You obtain these skills by purchasing them with these things called experience points. You obtain these “experience points” by killing enemies. I’d explain how’d kill said enemies, but I’m not sure we could comprehend all of that at this point.
Taken in isolation the hardest boss fight that comes to mind is the Final Boss from the D Route of Drakengard 3. Completely surreal and awesome atmosphere but wow the fact that the final hurdle plays out in this unintuitive, unmusical follow along rhythm section took an unreal amount of days for me to beat
Hardest boss I ever fought was Fatalis of MHW IB, took me a few days of studying its moves and when I beat it, I only had a few secs before the timer hits 0. 🤷♂️
@@crow2989 it's a nice hunt if you also got an experienced team, but a lot of the times, randoms would just burn through respawns. 🤷♂️ I hunted it solo when I beat it the 1st time. But yeah, the OG OST really makes you feel like an anime MC powering up.
@@pepe9565 oh for sure, randoms are a hit or miss. After i got the full fatalis set, i with back to help lower skilled players through Alatreon. I used the Fatalis Armor making it a goated Infinite Speed Healing build. Max free meal, max wide range, max speed eating, etc. I had most of not every healing item in my item pouch with all of them on the radial ready to go. I remember healing through the damage check a couple times, that was pretty cool. I regularly ended hunts with 250+ items consumed.
"Took me 20 attempts to kill the orphan" this is amazing out of context
28
Technoblade:" Pathetic."
I beat orphan on my first try, but I think I was overleveled, and I cheesed him. Literally ran in circles waiting for opportunities to punish him with sprinting attacks with logarius wheel
The only thing that made Orphan hard, was how aggressive he was.
But bloodborne is one of the easier souls games.
I beat orphan of kos first try but the fucking chalice dungeon amygdala was by far the hardest Bloodborne boss for me.
i did not expect the Charlie Clips x penguinz collab, truly a sight to behold
@@twin2TV no
@@bigdog80000 yes it is
@@twin2TV ✈the joke
YOU
@@a--...--.--45 Where is the joke?
@@1.21gigawatts2 its not a clip and it was pre determined to go on the clips channel iin a fashion quite like his main channel therefore ironic and therefore very hehehaha
"Hesitation Is Defeat" still burns me
HOW MY BLOOD BOILS! FACE ME SEKIRO!
mayoiba yabureru
The longest I've ever spent on a boss is around 2 years. Not because of the difficulty, but the shear fear it would instill within my soul. It was Mr. Freeze from Batman Arkham City and I was around 8, 9 years old. His voice, the crimson laser eyes, the sound of his boots stomping on the frozen GCPD floor - all enough for 8 year old me to start a new save every time I got there. Later on in life I managed to summon up enough courage to just attempt the demon and won. I'll never forget it.
I love that 😭
For young me it was killer croc in arkham asylum i actually thought my heart was about to stop i was full of adrenaline anf i thought i was about to die my heartrate was probably 200 bpm😂
😂😂.There was penguins shark in the iceberg lounge too😂 that thing wasn't even a boss but would still make me mad uneasy. @@Rapscalian
"You cannot hide in the cold.⭕⭕"
(I couldn't beat killer croc in Arkham Asylum, I was too scared)
Bro really got scared at Mr Freeze 💀
I was 10 when beat Arkham Asylum and City 😭
2:56 Charlie saying he died 28 to what he considers one of the hardest bosses ever is hilarious. 28 is literally me still in the "figuring out how I'm gonna do this" phase lol
Yeah I feel like his numbers are way below my attempts on some difficult bosses
same guys, even bosses people consider not too hard take me well into 30 or 40 tries
Compared to some souls bosses I’ve played, I thought Spawn of Oggdo was much easier. Malenia was the most difficult I’ve ever played.
@@Sean-te9cg from what i have seen of it, it's pretty much a DS1 style boss for how mechanically simple it is.
Still stuck on Glock Saint Isshin after like 50 tries
Pre nerf Radahn was awesome, beating him actually made you feel something. I was high fiving the dog.
Doh
meh post nerf isn't that much easier
people just learned the good stuff you can use against him which would also work on pre-nerf like rot/frost/bleed, spamming summons and if you're a mage spamming rock sling
They really nerfed him. If so then damn ppl will never how difficult he actually was, it felt so good beating him pre nerf
I cried lol
They un-nerfed him so he's hard again. Although at this point I think we've just gotten better
The Nameless King was the first boss that completely broke my spirit. I eventually took him down, but not after days of attempts. For me Nameless King is certainly one the hardest bosses of all time.
I gave up lol. Nameless King is the only boss I couldn’t beat
same lmao, i did do it in one day but sheesh took several hours and a good amount of farming
@@andybrown3016 What console are you on? Hop back and we can kick his ass together I've beaten him like 10 times 😂
Same! First boss where my family got concerned how much I was shouting and first time I broke the controller in anger 😂
I have no idea why people are crying about NK. Dude was quite easy unless you're really underlevelled (which you shouldn't be at that point).
Sword Saint Ishhin from Sekiro hands down. No contest. It took me like 3 nights of a few hours of attempts. It was by far the most rewarding boss to beat though.
Spawn of Oghdos tongue grabs were basically impossible for me to dodge no matter the timing.
Just say you aren’t good
@@noth7ingmf really woke up, named himself sekiro goat and chose violence 💀
The most difficult part about Isshin the Glock Saint is having to learn his attack patterns in all 3 phases, phase 2 being the hardest IMO. But I wouldn't say he's the hardest simply because his attacks are pretty telegraphed.
It's definitely the most fun fight in the game, but I'd say the demon of hatred is a much more difficult and frustrating fight.
@@1dingerr id say that inner genichiro, owl and especially inner isshin fights are harder than demon of hatred. But not many know they even exist since little people actually decide to take on gauntlets.
@@azewyyInner Isshin is really easy, he's barely changed, if you can beat sword saint you can beat inner isshin
Inner Owl on the other hand
Of all of these, Isshin Sword Saint was the best designed boss fight. It actually tested all of your skills in Sekiro up to the very end. You had to legitimately be good at the game and learn all of its mechanics to take him down. Definitely the most satisfying
By the time I finally beat Isshin, I had an identity crisis about my ability as a gamer, seriously wondering if I possessed the fundamental ability to beat him. I actually cried a little when I finally finished him off. Top ten best bosses of all time for me
literally throw the game when i almost defeated him
The flow of his fight is so satisfying too. Great pacing back and forth
Mortal blade
When you beat Isshin, all of Sekiro is easy. He actually forces you to become a master at the game.
Before even watching the video im going to assume Charlie's hardest boss in gaming is going to be Commander Niall from Elden Ring since it literally summoned a giant Mosquito Hawk irl to attack him and nearly cost him his life.
lmao i remember that
every souls boss is a piece of cake anyways compared to actual hard bosses in videogames. Theres MMOs ffs, those always have fights designed for only .1% of the community to even beat, with some bragging rights only rewards as incentive. Its completely normal for a group of actual sweaty ass greasy god gamers taking on a new max difficulty raid blind to take 100s of hours for their first clear, and even for solo bosses theres examples of a max engrage fight being first cleared over a year after release.
charlie and his normie hours ass havent seen sheit
He was scared of one of the only massive, scary bugs that doesn’t bite or sting. And it was marvelous
@@SuperbChicken Okay but HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE FUCKERS? We have the benefit of hindsight but if you're in your room and all of a sudden a giant fuck-off bug starts flying around my room IM GONNA HAVE A PANIC ATTACK AND ENACT PROTOCOL OKAY?
Yeah man my first attempt I never died once
Probably not the hardest I've done but the one that comes to mind in the "bosses that made me suffer" category was the valkarie queen on highest difficulty
"VALHALLA" hear that shit in my dreams at this point 🤣
Facts, Gna was a walk in the park compared to Sigrun
Very very difficult. One I really struggled with was the blood starved beast in blood borne, I don’t know why. It took me easily over a hundred tried I almost quit the game
New game plus Sigrun was absolute torture to get through on GMGOW, using the other zeus gauntlet and stuff made it a literal no hit or 2 hit boss depending on if you have a resurrection stone.
the berserkers were harder than her lmao
I played Jedi survivor on launch, did normal difficulty because I wanted to get a feel for the game. I got to oggdo, and put well over 50 attempts into him over like 2 days. then i quit the game for a few months, and in early june i returned to the game to beat the crap out of oggdo, and after probably 30 more attempts, i got it. Yes he's an optional boss, yes he's probably meant for end game, but i needed him dead. I could not live with myself if i didn't kill him.
The fact that he struggled more with Nameless King than Friede or Gael is astonishing
I found Gael easier than Nameless king. Not Friede though… god, not Friede.
Gael is ez
I guess he got better and understands more about the game afterward because Nameless King is base game boss and Friede and Gael is DLC boss.
Nameless king swings the opposite way, so he can roll catch a lot of people.
EDIT, plus the king of storms having a terrible camera can make people waste a lot of estus before the real fight begins.
Nameless King is harder than Friede. Gael, I can see someone saying either one although I think Gael is harder.
I will forever have the words "I am malenia, blade of miquella" burned into my brain. It took me two sessions 6 hours each before I beat her using no summons and only a sword and shield. When it finally happened I was literally in tears. Thank you Elden Ring
I feel your pain. Im currently dying to her and I havent even reached her 2nd phase. Her flurry/whirlwind attack destroys me and I dont see how to stop it
@@alexinivai08 Use a shield to block the first flurry and then spam dodge the 2nd and third. You have to time your dodge the split second right before she starts her flurry and dodge at an angle not straight forwards or backwards. Trust me the second phase is the real boss fight eventually you will have a 100% success rate on phase one its not hard once it's all muscle memory. Just have an answer for all her moves and stick to them until you can execute them consistently. Watch videos on all her patterns and make a plan and practice. Good luck!
?? I was a magic user with moonveil katana. I summoned my tear and killed her 2nd try. She was easy
@@haneyguitarinstruction6260 so easy mode? We're talking no summons lol.
@@haneyguitarinstruction6260the fact that you died at all with that build is embarrassing 😂😂😂
Absolute Radiance is by far the most difficult boss I have ever beat. Not only is it the end of a boss gauntlet that is around 30-1 hour it also takes a lot of rng to not get screwed over as her attacks overlap each other. It took 2 months which was way less than my attempts on any of my lvl 1 fights in all souls games.
Primal Aspid, obviously
Same for me, i got to the end of the pantheon 5, fought and died to radiance, then spent genuinely 30 HOURS practicing before I could beat her like 5 times in a row. Took me a few tries to get through the pantheon again but luckily I killed radiance my first time going up there. Hellish boss fight where if two moves overlap your done
The hardest boss battle of all time is through the fire and flames on expert. Don’t @ me
Passing it was pretty easy, but getting an FC back in day was a gamer God moment
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Look up paradoxx D28 pump it up. Harder than guitar hero because it's actually physically exhausting. I think only like 4 people in the world have ever even passed it. No one even close to getting a full combo.
@@ArneyO7 The throw back, is the best attempt still that 23 miss?
YEEESSSSS!!!! ❤
Rick the Door Technician in Jedi Survivor was insane. Took me probably 100+ tries to beat. Honestly I can’t think of anything I’ve ever done in my life that was anywhere near as difficult as that boss.
jokes aside I tried to do a meme-ish kill on him and accidentally killed him while setting it up so I guess I'll have to try again in new game+
@@IssDiddy he's those npcs you mess with but they die so easily lol
Soldier of God, Rick
Pls man I don't want to end up losing my sanity fighting a really hard stormtrooper in the next game
I finally switched my stance and would use charged shots with the blaster to stop the occasional one shot dash he does. Still took me awhile but once I switched i immediately had hope
Ishinn is the only boss I had to stop and come back another day to beat. The best part is that at no point I felt like the fight was Bullshit. I loved it and it's my favorite souls boss of all time
Bruhh wdym come back another day to beat? I do that with so many bosses😂 I usually play late at night though so
Bro has never taken multiple days to beat a boss, that’s insane. Radiant AbsRad in Hollow Knight took me literal weeks of attempts. All of the Sekiro bosses went much more quickly, but I haven’t done them hitless yet.
Ishin was the first boss that I gave up on beating for about 6 months, I then came back to beat him. On my second playthrough, I beat him on my 7th try
Personally my hardest boss as well
Same bruh had to sleep rq to come back and beat em. Hands down best boss AI From has made to date. He's a badass mf
What I love about the souls games is how there are so many builds and ways to approach something. Everyone has a different experience and difficulty with individual bosses. I beat radahn and maliketh first try, but got wrecked by mohg and malenia, and vise versa with my friends
The high i got from beating Malenia 232 tries in with the golden halberd, was absolutely amazing. It lasted a week.
Idk how far you went in Hollow knight, but Absolute Radiance in the Pantheon of Hallownest is INSANE.
I've only ever beaten absrad in the hall of gods. To this day I still haven't finished p5. I've gotten insanely close (as in absrad final phase), but have failed every time.
honestly by the time you get to absolute radiance you are a goat so the difficulty feels perfectly scaled. in terms of learning the boss and then executing a winning run in the moment, i remember hating grey prince zote more lul
@@BlazingJ972me too :( I’ve been telling myself I wanna finish it before silksong but sorta waiting for more news on that too lol
@@blossomcherrypink Finally reached Absolute Radiance today and after hours and hours of attempts still haven't being able to beat her yet on the Hall of Gods... I always die on the third phase. Frustrating asf.
I can deal pretty easily with most of the other bosses now tho. Even beat GPZ on Radiant.
I just recently beat the Pantheon of Hallownest All Bindings and it is by far the hardest thing I've ever done in a video game. Absolute Radiance herself took me 3-5 hrs of practice to do when I was doing Normal P5, definitely a strong contender for hardest (vanilla) boss.
I think one of the coolest part of the souls games is how different each player's experience can be. The two bosses I died the most on were Tree Sentinel and Malenia.
Although to be fair, Elden Ring was my first game in the series, and I refused to skip the Tree Sentinel just because I was having fun, and felt like I was doing progressively better over time.
Its all about how high level/how much damage, not necessarily difficulty
Malekeith and Morgott were worse for me than Malenia. I actually had fun learning her, but the other 2 are just plain dogshit gamedesign.
i ended up one shotting melania by acident
@@reservationatdorsias3215 That's actually pretty interesting to me. I had a bit of trouble with Margit early on, but Morgott was my only demigod one shot.
@@reservationatdorsias3215 I ended up over leveling a rivers of blood build and fucked up malekeith in like 15 seconds it was nuts lol
kingdom hearts 2 sephiroth is pretty rough. kh1 sephiroth might be even worse.
absolute radiance is probably one of the hardest i’ve beaten, but laurence on NG+ just made me quit, i had an easy time with most bb bosses, but laurence just seemed like a damage sponge that would hit you when it didn’t seem like he should
Agreed about Laurence - he's definitely hardest boss in BB.
Laurence is the worst at ng+, definitely losing my sanity with him
For me it's probably Absolute Radiance from Hollow Knight. I know, I know... Most of the challenge doesn't come from the boss fight itself, although it is extremely difficult. But the only way you can access the boss fight is by completing a gauntlet, fighting 42 bosses in a row... without dying. Once you actually get to Absolute Radiance, you are exhausted and the nerves make mistakes very easy in a fight where mistakes are instantly punished.
Other than that, Demon of Hatred from Sekiro was pretty tough as well.
Fantastic pick I would agree
I gave up on patheon 5.....
even if we ignore p5 its still BY FAR the hardest boss in hk and harder than most soulsborne bosses
Something that is really annoying about that fight is the fact that you take double damage
I couldn't even beat normal radiance. Ended up quitting the game at Radiance after getting to the second phase twice fighting it 4 hours a day for a couple weeks
Vergil 3 in DMC 3 is very hard, but he's such a fun fight. You truly need to master the game mechanics to beat him.
Based choice my man.
Yeah you can't cheese him. He counters everything
I’d put Vergil 3 DMD over any Souls boss. He can’t be juggled, is ridiculously aggressive, hits hard, and if you don’t take him out of DT he’ll regain too much health.
He is the OG tough boss
100% the truth
I feel like Rayvis on grandmaster was a decent challenge as well, he hit like a truck and could combo you like crazy
It took me a week to beat Ornstein and Smough.
It was before the launch of DS3, I wanted to try DS1. I instantly felt in love with the game, until that damn boss… Every day after work from 6 to 10 I kept trying without any quit in me.
I was playing and talking with my girl on the phone the moment I beat them…
I will never ever forget the relief i felt on that day,I did it…
Never played the game after that tho… One day I will be back
O&S for me too. I reckon it took me over 100 attempts across multiple days. But when I did it, I knew I had "learned how to play Souls".
That said, nothing has taken me like Sekiro. I'm currently on NG+5 whereas I never played any of DS1/2/3 more than once.
For me it was Fatalis from MHW Iceborne. It was my first ever truly difficult boss that took me well over 100 deaths and four days of on and off play to beat him.
Probably my favorite boss of all time too, he was so fucking badass and very fun.
When proof of a hero kicks in, I don't know if I've ever felt a feeling like that before.
Same here man! Fatalis is still easily the hardest and still best boss experience I've had in a game.
Wish Charlie didn’t just dismiss MH as “not for him”, I’d love to see how he’d rank some black dragons with other game bosses.
Fatalis was so satisfying to finally beat, I’ve gone and killed him almost a hundred more times since then just for fun.
@S. Bregnest tbh it's fair. Monster hunter is my favorite game franchise ever next to the souls games, but I can definitely see how it's not for everyone
@@s.bregnest2857 Me as well, I personally find fighting him with Greatsword to be the most satisfying, and I even did a heroics run with SnS.
And yeah, I really would like to see how a souls player ranks MH bosses compared to souls. Because while the actual game and progression is probably harder for souls, I feel like Monster Hunter has the harder endgame bosses.
Best part, the spawn is just a nod to the first optional boss in the first game. Zanny memed on it a ton, when fighting Trilla mentioning "You will not take the title of most deaths, that belongs to Oggdo!"
It gets soooo much worse, there is an optional boss where you fight spawn of oggdo and og oggdo at the same time and it is guaranteed impossible
@@Soldat2547 yeah. I took one attempt at that and went "Nope."
YES! I remember that fucker when I started the first game, but no one ever seemed to struggle with that oggdo
I thought this was a reference to that boss. I ended up dropping the first game because of how much I acted that one boss and how it was designed. I don't understand why they would include it again in the sequel, it's just bad.
@@Kaptinark in the first game, the boss had no real issues, but in JS it does unlike FO.
I need to start keeping track of my boss attempts. I think Eldest of the Black Rabbit Brotherhood boss in Lies of P would be a good start lol. The boss is absolutely ridiculous because they throw one huge boss at you that is absolutely relentless while at the same time having to defeat 3 other little mini bosses at the same time that are extremely fast.
One boss I’ll never forget is Fatalis from Monster Hunter World Iceborne. It took me a good couple weeks on my first clear but I’ve got a buddy who’s been trying on and off for a year. Still hasn’t beat him.
Alatreon in 3U and Apex Rajang in 4U kicked my ass for far far longer tbf. Dunno if it’s just because I played them first or if it’s just how ridiculous those monsters are
I still lie awake at night sometimes from the pain and frustration experienced from Isshin, the Sword Saint from Sekiro
Isshin is a pretty easy boss honestly. The real challenges in sekiro come in the gauntlet fights
Once i got good at deflecting, Basically the entire game was easy for me
He was challenging but I would say fights like Demon of Hatred were much harder. Idk, a lot of Sekiro fights post Genichiro all felt pretty mangable and winnable. The only really difficulty spikes were Owl, Isshin, and the Demon. I would say Guardian Ape but he becomes a total joke once you learn to stop being aggresive and use thrust attacks.
*Isshin the glock Saint*
Kinda same. Sword Saint took me like 6 hours spread over a whole weekend.
But I loved every second of it. Usually I can get easily frustrated. But not on this fight for whatever reason.
That frog made Charlie a true jedi master. Harder than all the Sith Lord fights
Only fitting for Oggdo to be the most difficult boss in Survivor
@@fili0938 as the spawn of the hated Oggdo Boggdo you are correct
09:01
let's just appreciate the timing of Charlie's burp with Oggdo Juniors chomp, making it look like Junior is burping into Cal's face
Petition to have Charlie fight the ACTUAL final boss in sekiro, inner father
That’s the only soulsborne boss I’ve yet to complete. Bros freakin tough
For me the worst part about inner father is his mist raven 2 quick swipe attack. Just nearly fucking un-parryable since the second attack comes out so soon after the first. Still haven’t bothered to finish him, although I was too stubborn to use kuro’s charm and remove demon bell
@@ky7501 same lmao I hate that attack
If you can kill the normal father owl, you can easily kill inner owl as well.
@@excalibur2596 no
Respect Charlie. Well done.
Watching the fight with spawn of oggdo in this video is a mix between stress inducing and soothing... XD
Boss difficulty design is something I am always fascinated by, especially with how it is different between game genres. One of my favorite bosses for both their design and difficulty is Fatalis from Monster Hunter World Iceborne. It has unpredictable but fair attack patterns, dynamic behaviors, and great scaling for the endgame. I also like really like Orphan of Kos and pre-nerf Radahn.
Yep this is the hardest and most satisfying boss I’ve ever beat
You're sleeping on Arch-Tempered Velkhana. I was like "it's only Velkhana 😂 how hard can it b- OMG WTF STOP PLS!! 😨".
Both Fatalis & AT Velkhana are 2 of the greatest videogame fights of all time.
The only mechanic that changed in the Radahn fight is the speed of the meteors. Everything else is the exact same. Go fight him underleveled and you will experience “pre-nerfed Radahn” again. It was never that hard of a fight, players just know the game more so they difficulty spectacle has wilted over time.
My favorite boss is Leshy from Inscryption.
I agree with Fatalis and AT Velkhana. I’ve beaten every boss in DS1 and 3 at level 1. I’ve also beaten all of Elden Ring and DS2 normally. Fatalis was by far my hardest fight in comparison. I always ended up losing to the timer due to playing cautiously and not wanting to greed hits which I guess is conditioning from Souls. I also ended up at Fatalis before even MR100 because I was too stubborn to grind in guiding lands and vehemently refused to do it with a group. AT Velkhana was also a nightmare as well.
I think this also brings up what makes the Souls games so good. Difficulty should be less about damage differences and health but more about a fair opportunity. With a lot of games that have difficulty setting, the highest difficulty usually means you do less damage and take more, and the enemies do more and take less. Whereas the Souls series makes combat almost like a dance. Punish windows are very important for boss fights, and I think Souls does those very well (for the most part), much better than other action/fighting games.
counterpoint: bed of chaos!!!!
Terraria/Calamity Mod did this very well i find, while difficulty does also change the life and defence stats around, the challenge is mostly derived from a new AI/Moveset
Elden ring:
My friends always try to recommend me souls-like games, but they are never as good. What you just said is exactly why, other souls-like games can't find that boss fight that's almost like a dance feel.
souls game difficulty is literally almost all about damage differences and health. With the right build you can basically 1-2 shot anything.
Nioh was really special in how the in game encyclopedia had all your death counters for every boss
I think Sigrun in god of war on the hardest difficulty took me the longest. I would hop on and try for like 20 minutes every now and then but one day I sat down for three whole hours before I was able to get her. And the crazy part is that when I did finally beat her, I did it hitless and that was euphoric as fuck. Still can’t believe it, my palms started sweating so much more when I realized towards the end of the fight that she had yet to hit me. No boss has ever taken me nearly that long
She has the same 2 attack patterns Zeus is way harder
I agree. She is hell
That was me with the demon of hatred of sekiro
funny, charlie hates that boss lmao
I agree the optional god of war bosses are hard as nails. Most of the attacks are near instant and similar.
My toughest was probably Laurence from Bloodborne. Can't remember how many attempts it took but I do remember that when I did my heart was beating super fast and I jumped up cheering and felt like I was gonna pass out lmao.
Yes, found him worse than Orphan or Maria or anyone. That stupid lava trail phase.
So glad to see somebody say this. I thought it was just me. He’s always the boss I dread fighting most on replays. Idk why but he just gives me a ton of trouble. Maria I’ve got down real good and usually can one attempt her now. Same with most others. Orphan is still challenging to but I can usually beat him sooner than Laurence.
Laurence might be one of the worst bosses in the series. Definitely harder than kos. It didn't even feel good beating him
My hardest MHW was the carpet bomber dragon guy for me. messed me up, but i also use the insect glaive and it gets funcky sometimes
Git gud with the Beasthunter Saif and Laurence is ez
Another thing I noticed is in fallen order against oggdo bogdo when he does the tongue move you can force pull it and it stays stretched out, and then hitting the tongue with the lightsaber does big damage. This was a cool punish in the first game but it’s not in this one. Even in the force echo when you fight og oggdo and spawn of oggdo at the same time, you can’t do it to either of them, so they didn’t just copy the old AI for oggdo, they gave him spawn’s AI. I don’t know if it’s a bug that you can’t do this but it’s definitely a feature I wish was still there.
This boss is basically taking the meme of Oggdo from the first game since when you first encounter him in Fallen Order, you haven’t unlocked Force Pull yet so you have almost nothing to work with against him and he kicks your ass. So Spawn of Oggdo is as hard for a leveled up player as Oggdo was for the brand new player.
7-th force bossfight from Alien Soldier Sega Mega Drive game was insane. Same with Vader's final bossfight in Super Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back
Wally Warbles on Expert gave me a hard time too
Honestly would love to see Charlie play the KH series on level 1 critical. Seeing him against Lingering Will and KH3 data bosses would be a joy ride
Vouch
@@Oath_- maleficent from kh1 almost made me uninstall
Lmao kingdom hearts is a pussy baby wah wah game
@@ahliejahh that was me for sephiroth in kh2
Kh bosses are cracked
I think it’d be really funny if they fixed everything else in the game and just left Spawn of Oggdo bugged just as a testament to the hardest boss fight in the series 😂
He’s a meme boss
@@jayloncollins9681 well yes but actually no
@@partymix1997 you get a PONCHO which was cameron monaghans entire gag at swc, its a meme boss lmfao
@@connorgarvin2056 who said it was a gag
@@partymix1997 the only reason its in the game was cause it was a meme that oggdo boggdo was the hardest boss in the game, although in hindisght he was ridiculously easy everyone just fought him early game and were all completely unprepared, anyways people went with the gag and it was just an ongoing joke that oggdo boggdo was the hardest boss so respawn thought it was funny to add him into this game and make him way harder and lock the poncho behind him, its why cameron monahgan was making such a joke out of the poncho at SWC, its all one big piss take
Props to you for killing oggdo that was insanely precise gameplay you could tell how locked in you had to be
The Dyson Airstrait commercial in front of the video was just *chefs kiss*.
I really enjoy these more personalized clips for the second channel. I appreciate the condensed VODs but it’s like getting bonus content when it’s like this
I believe that sekiro is truly one of the hardest games ever made…on your first attempt. On new game plus, I practically one attempted most bosses except for isshin because sekiro has a perfect combat system. It’s extremely punishing and hard to learn but once you get it, you’ve got it.
Apparently sekiro was supposed to be a Tenchu revival but it got scrapped. theres a super cool mod with a really well made hd render player model of Rikimaru. If only the tenchu fans got the game that could have been. Sekiro being as good as it was was the biggest tease to the tenchu community
@@PoeticInsanitythank goodness that happened because Sekiro is the greatest FromSoft game in my opinion
Its only hard on your first run. Once you know the mechanics then its the easiest fromsoft
I don't believe that, I think retro games or cuphead is just wayyyyyyyy harder
At least from my own experience
@@stevienixx Would have been infinitely better if that quality of game was put into the tenchu universe.
Absolute radiant got me thinking about humanity, politics, human physiology and Astronomy. No connection about the boss whatsoever, just made me do a whole existential crisis.
glad he gave the honor back to isshin regardless of the focus of the video
The final boss of the DLC in Drakenguard 3 is absolute hell. Being a Yoko Taro game instead of the final boss being something you fight it's a random rhythm game. A rhythm game that lasts 6 minutes and fakes you out twice. Worst part? If you mess up a SINGLE time you have to do everything from the beginning. Also, you have to watch a minute long cutscene each time. I remember hearing once Yoko Taro made this the worst boss ever as a troll. I can believe it.
I remember thinking I beat it and dying during the dialog lol
Yoo I thought I was the only one lacking glad to know this is the gaming consensus 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Great topic of discussion Charles
Fatalis from monster hunter world was a really fun fight but probably also the most difficult one I've played
I was looking for this comment. Absolutely agreed. Fatalis took me weeks to finally slay solo. He's now my favorite boss ever.
Ik I’m late but agreed 100%
monster hunter while a good game it just filled with bunch of sponge that took 20+ minutes to beat and i aint comparing sponge fight to a mechanic fight like souls game. not saying the game is bad. just saying souls and monster hunter are completely different take on “boss”. and you use a lot of consumables which isnt the case in the majority of souls fights.
both are good game since i played both just different kind of “hard”. its like comparing Getting over it to Only Up. both have same general objective which is to go up by platforming but they have such different kind of “hard”
You can trivialize Oggdo by using the Blaster's charge shot. It'll stun them 100%, and you can use it to make them stop their unblockables.
yea also oggdo post endgame when youre upgraded is ridiciulously easy, literally nothin aside from the tongue one shots you and you have way more tools at your disposal
Exactly
As a blaster stance user. That charge shot saved me when you had to fight two at once
He did the boss before getting to jedna
My man has obviously never played the og Punch Out
The Valkyries in GOW4 felt like my hardest boss battle so far
git gud
Watching Charlie try again & again at hard as balls bosses is fascinating, he takes it really well compared to others who would rage quit.
Just how you should. You died because you ain't that good not because the game is unfair.
@@raygengamer8440it's not only about that. it can get very frustrating to try to defeat the same boss
@@raygengamer8440He repeats a lot of mistakes he should be learning each time he dies 🎉
I always look for cheese
He's also getting paid to do it. I would die in a game all day long if I made thousands a day lol
release radahn was a demon and worthy of the title of being the strongest demigod during the shattering. its a real shame he got nerfed, they unnerfed him but he's just not the same anymore. Limitbreakers made a comparison video on it quite a while ago and the difference is stark.
I always wondered why Radahn was INSANE on my first run through. At least 40+ tries with summons. But then I could easily one shot him on new game +'s. I hope they make a true Radahn fight in the DLC, where he isn't nerfed and you fight him at full power.
His hp is lacklustre now that his damage and projectile tracking are average
The dungeon amydgala and that guard dog are the most crazy fights ever.
We all know it’s mist noble from sekiro
"It took me almost 28 atempts to to kill the orphan" - Moist Critical
*Moist Charlie Clips
Have to vouch for Yozora in the KH3 DLC. It's a shame people didn't give that DLC a chance after their experience with the base game, because it contains some of the best bosses ever designed.
I had to stop and literally take notes on every one of his attacks to study a proper way to handle it, and it took me days to beat. Not even Isshin had me against the ropes that much.
Finally! Someone else thinks the same. Yozora was harder than any soulslike or RPG in general. He's well designed too, it's not just random bullshit.
I spent like 3 days straight trying to beat Yozora. There's a section towards the end of the battle that I still have no idea what the heck I did to get past. Regardless, he was certainly a fair boss by all accounts. I don't remember there being any unavoidable attacks. Definitely one of the best bosses out there.
Cole sprose was whoopin my ass
@@frozenpissjugs5735 NOPE!
@@VixVixious bro he literally takes your kupo coins from u name one souls boss that takes estus from u😭
Eviterno in blasphemous 2 kicked my arse for longer than I'm willing to admit
I think my biggest brick wall in recent gaming was the Valkyrie Queen in the previous GoW. I swear I was stuck on her for a week.
I shamelessly lowered the difficulty on that bitch. Was not worth losing my sanity. But I will say I made up for it fighting gna in ragnarok
I only found her after getting all the end game armor and stuff and thought she was the easiest of the valkyries. The fire one was the most challenging because I was severely underdeveloped.
I think the hardest boss in all of gaming is still either of the superbosses in Digital Devil Saga 1&2, Demi-Fiend or Satan. You have to prepare the entire game just to be able to do it and then you need a calculator plus precise play the entire time to manage. And even then there's an element of luck to both of them.
I had to scroll way too far down to find someone mentioning Demifiend when he was the first boss that I thought of too. It baffles me how SMT isn't more popular considering Persona 5's popularity. You'd think more people would actually TRY to learn more about the parent series of their supposedly favorite JRPG of all time.
Thank god someone finally mentioned the Demi Fiend, I wish there were as many SMT fans as there were Persona fans considering that Persona is a spinoff of SMT
@@peronafanman can't speak for everyone, but for me? Persona 4 and 5 are only 50% battle with the rest being character, story and side activities. Most of the smt games are 90% battle with a smidgen of story between each dungeon. I enjoy the battles but I need something to do besides just battle
@@anegwa Alright that's fair, I still wish SMT was more popular though
DDS Demifiend is the only correct answer to this question. The amount of people in the entire world who have actually beat him legitimately is probably a 3 digit or very low 4 digit number.
The last guy from Jump Force had me pissing blood when you're not able to use any of your abilities and he just ganks you
The tongue on Spawn of Oggdo is absolutely fuckin broken because if you're descending from your double jump the game just warps you onto his tonge and its one shot.
For me it's Alatreon from Monster Hunter World Iceborne. I had to craft an entirely new armour set, grind out the endgame, just to stand a chance against it. And then the fight itself is just incredible, so many exhilirating patterns you need to learn and you must play aggressive or he will just kill you with the Escaton judgement. I'm normally a quiet gamer but I think the entire neighborhood heard me scream when the black dragon was finally slain.
İ tried that shit with my friend for weeks 😭 and then the game slaps you with fatalis which is even harder than alatreon
@@aliemironay3452 I found Fatalis much much easier than Alatreon. There are so many options to beat him. Alatreon you really have to play the game exactly how the game demands. But I also did both solo. Maybe Fatalis is harder with friends because he hits harder Idk.
@@ProrogonLordoftheJags the hard part was killing the damn thing in time
@@ProrogonLordoftheJags I found fatalis easier too, Alatreons only worse because of the element dmg mark you need to hit to suppress him, and his horn breaks take a long ass time without excellent bait tactics that dont always work. I killed Fatalis Solo back to back 5 times before I beat alatreon solo.
That fucker
And that's the easier version of Alatreon if you can believe it. He's even harder in the older games.
Yozora on lv.1 critical mode, even most of Kingdom Hearts’ optional bosses will transform any soulslike boy into a grizzled man.
HARD agree. Makes Lingering Will look like a walk in the park and he used to be the big bad in KH
KOH bosses are criminally underrated
Finally someone says it. KH3 Crit Mode with pro codes, most bosses are harder than any Souls game boss (even disney bosses). Yozora alone is on a different level.
It’s always funny to see the bosses that other people struggled with, meanwhile you probably mopped the floor with the ones I struggled with z
All of Ninja Gaiden 2 on Xbox 360 Master Ninja. You are constantly being spammed with exploding shurikens or fireballs (even in multipleboss fights), and the enemies in that game do not wait or hesitate, they all just spam constantly. When I was a kid having that Ryu gamer profile pic was like the coolest thing ever.
Absolute radiance .
I had the hardest time with Great Shinobi Owl in Sekiro because of how small the arena was and the fact he fought dirty. It was a good fight, but dang...
Owl was definitely one of those bosses who pressured you at every moment you had to equally pressure him as well in order to win 😭 i was mind boggled when he mikri counterd me
If you think normal owl is bad try Inner father.
Demon of hatred is the one boss in sekiro I've never beat without cheesing and I have no shame 😅
@@NateTheGreat368 same, i got to that boss and was like “naw, jump time”
Imo Owl Father was easy af same with Sword Saint Isshin.
Inner Father on the other hand beat the ever living fuck out of me while practicing his memory fight. Out of all my practices out of 15, I died at least 7 times while taking 8 dubs which felt kinda shitty.
Inner Father was tough mainly for that one move where he can pull off a myst raven double tap out of nowhere. That shit tilts me off every single time he spams that while on idol or in battle flow.
Maybe not the ‘hardest’ final boss, but the hardest challenge in gaming that I’ve done/seen is the Inferno in OSRS. Usually it’s considered a big success if you can beat it in under 100 attempts, and amazing I’d you can do it under 50. with each attempt ranging from 30 mins to 2 or 3 hours, the mechanics aren’t as trying as some of the major souls-like bosses, but the fact it has a ton of ‘one mistake=restart’ mechanics and can last for so long makes it the hardest in my eyes. Not to mention the nerves and the sweaty gamer social implications of having the cape that shows completion. It’s prestigious enough that people who can’t do it will go to the black market and pay hundreds of dollars (against the rules, bannable,) just for someone else to beat it on their account. 100% the best feeling I’ve had from a video game was beating all 69 of the waves and I don’t think that anything’ll beat it
For me, it would have to be Fatalis from Monster Hunter World. I got light-headed in my hands went numb when I finally killed him, never had a feeling from any other boss since.
Good choice.
Whole of monster hunter is like bloodborne boss rush on crack,that boss bezelgeuse or whatever you hear the start of the theme shits real,yeah that game solo was hard
I know this may not count because it doesn't count as a "souls like", but the frog from everhood took him a lot of tries and like 3 and a half hours of uninterrupted suffering on the hardest difficulty
Tutorial Frog or Frog’s Revenge
@@TDJunkie226right, he literally just streamed having to kill TWO frogs tn in tht jedi one now 😂 died so many times i was able to order food get it delivered n eat and he still was fighting them 🤣
Can someone link me this instance? Haven’t been watching in a while
@@brandanmentch its in his VODS or itl be posted on youtube soon im sure by one of those rip off channels
No it counts, he’s asking people what the hardest boss in any game they’ve played was, not just souls games, so it counts 😁
After having just started my journey of Souls games and just beat bloodborne and the old hunters dlc and on the final boss off my first playthrough of Sekiro. Father Owl of Hirata estate has taken me the LONGEST out of any boss in any game.. ever!
Is it because of muscle memory from the owl at ashina Castle?
No, I didn't take that many tries for shinobi owl but daddy owl was just wrecking me, but I have done all boses on first playthrough now with dragon ending :)@@bruhder5854
Brooo I played Elden Ring a day before release on console due to the New Zealand thing, and man no spoilers and not seeing any videos and playing a day before I was in love, and still to this day Radahn is my number one ER boss and Godfrey 2nd
Charmless bell demon Father owl is by far the hardest fight for me. That shit was ridiculous. The added pressure of having to perfect parry every attack made it that much harder for me. Such an amazing fight overall. One of froms best imo.
For me it was Lou in guitar hero 3. Took me so so so many tries over a period of months. I’ve played almost all of the souls like games from software has made but finally completing that felt amazing.
Isshin the sword saint absolutely messed me up for months. I spent days on him and eventually took a hiatus from Selkirk and eventually came back months later. After hours upon hours of dying to this old man I finally beat him
Trust me, you probably didn’t do it as bad as Charlie lol.
He refused to parry.
For me, only 3 bosses in gaming gave me a problem, everything else was okay. But these 3 still give me trauma to this day, and those bosses are unsurprisingly as anyone understands is mist noble, rick soldier of god, and rick the door technician. Those are the top 3 bosses in gaming
Release Radahn solo melee at level like 35-45ish with a +4 sword is an experience that I am eternally grateful I made the choice to experience, and I truly wish I could do it again. Took 4 hours.
Only took me 15 min at lvl 75 prob bc I powerlvled like I do in any souls game
Start closing your eyes and getting a controller with drift it would be right up your alley. You will never regret it an enlightening experience.
Level 50, base claws, solo here. Took me for fucking ever.
@@camboyrdee felt fucking wonderful though didn’t it
@@seizonsha lmao
Burning Freezing Eruzerion in Monster hunter frontier took me over an year to beat it solo(w1st solo clear was 6 months after release)
Its defenitly one of the hardest boss in gaming history.
Holy fuck I didnt expect to find this comment
Never played frontier but that sounds horrific.
@@mtgleam8723 almost every attack covers entire area and oneshots you....
Dam I hope if he does a hardest boss tier list he brings up sigrun Valkyrie queen. I think it took him almost 2 hours to beat her
Cheetahmen in I wanna be the boshy, saw someone finally do it after over 13k deaths
For me it was the final boss of Drakengard 3 ending D. For those that don't know, it is a rhythm boss fight but the camera is being controlled by a monkey high on every drug imaginable. I think it took me 3-5 days trying to beat it.
1 is harder imo. I spent a week mapping out the rhythms so I could memorize it instead of using an online guide, and it's brutal. The amount of math and pure rhythm tech needed for it gave me cramps.
Then those last few notes ugh never again
@@pentexsucks43 1 is hard for sure but at least with that one the camera isn't going crazy and you can pause to see which notes are coming next. With 3 you need to be good at following the changing rhythm and also not get cucked by that last note after the ending dialogue starts.
I was thinking after I beat him “this honestly could be one of the hardest bosses I’ve ever fought” especially with the fps dips. Holy hell was I determined to beat him though lol
Pre patch radahn was nuts. Literally op
You know hornet? The boss from hallow knight that took you two tries to beat.
It took me over 12 hours cut down to two sessions to beat her, I think I actually damaged my physical body during that fight.
Hardest boss must have a heck of a long gauntlet of a fight that takes pure precision and vigilance with an ever changing moveset and quirks.
kinda surprised this isn't on penguinz0, but a welcome clips channel upload
It`s obviously the evil godmother from Shrek 2 the pc game.
I’m glad you cleared it up at the end by saying Ishen was the hardest boss. The skill required to beat him consistently, which you’ll need if you want to get a platinum trophy in sub 200hrs, Is just astronomical. To this day there’s still attacks he does that idk when or how to properly parry. I never felt cheated tho, I always felt that each death, reluctantly as I didn’t want to admit it, was my fault. The flip side to it all being that every victory against Ishen felt like I genuinely accomplished something special. That’s just good boss design.
bro what took me 40hrs to platinum sekiro
@@dirbba6820what? You’re capping
@@dirbba6820took me 40-50 as well
I’m sure there’s many ppl who got the plat in under 50hrs. That’s not what I explained. I stated IF you wanted to do it under 200hrs you have to essentially beat the game multiple times back to back going through multiple new game plus cycles. To be fair I didn’t fully elaborate on that part as I thought the concept was implied, but I forget the internet is autistic, so allow me to explain clearly now.
The hardest trophy in the game is Height of Technique. To get this trophy your options are; A: Beat the game somewhere past NG+ 3 or 4 (I can’t remember where I was at when I got it.)
B: Grind 200hrs for it by killing the same set of enemies on a normal play through.
Since I’m already at it. I might as well just explain what the fucking trophy Height of Technique is, since it’s obvious that the first and only thought coming to everyone’s mind appears to be, “uhh 200hrs?? U r trash brah I do it in 40.” The trophy Height of Technique is unlocked by obtaining every skill in the game. You obtain these skills by purchasing them with these things called experience points. You obtain these “experience points” by killing enemies. I’d explain how’d kill said enemies, but I’m not sure we could comprehend all of that at this point.
Taken in isolation the hardest boss fight that comes to mind is the Final Boss from the D Route of Drakengard 3.
Completely surreal and awesome atmosphere but wow the fact that the final hurdle plays out in this unintuitive, unmusical follow along rhythm section took an unreal amount of days for me to beat
Damn, I still haven’t beat that one. What a pain.
Fr 😢
Hardest boss I ever fought was Fatalis of MHW IB, took me a few days of studying its moves and when I beat it, I only had a few secs before the timer hits 0. 🤷♂️
Me and my best friend got chills after pulling the dragonator and hearing the shift of music for the first time
@@crow2989 it's a nice hunt if you also got an experienced team, but a lot of the times, randoms would just burn through respawns. 🤷♂️ I hunted it solo when I beat it the 1st time.
But yeah, the OG OST really makes you feel like an anime MC powering up.
@@pepe9565 oh for sure, randoms are a hit or miss. After i got the full fatalis set, i with back to help lower skilled players through Alatreon. I used the Fatalis Armor making it a goated Infinite Speed Healing build. Max free meal, max wide range, max speed eating, etc. I had most of not every healing item in my item pouch with all of them on the radial ready to go. I remember healing through the damage check a couple times, that was pretty cool. I regularly ended hunts with 250+ items consumed.