I could never choose the MT-10 over the Tuono, but I respect your opinion, everyone is different! I've owned the Streetfighter V4S, and changed up for a 22 Tuono V4 Factory recently. The absolute two highlights on the Tuono that made me switch, were the chassis and engine. I'm not sure I've ever felt a better bike chassis, and the Factory even has cast wheels! It feels more nimble than the Streetfighter despite weighing more. The engine is an engineering masterwork (minus the horrible Euro 5 mess). The torque curve is phenomenal, and the sound and feel are tough to beat. The electronics package and Ohlins semi-active are also second to none for a road/track bike.
@@MOTOUK1 I loved the Streetfighter, but to get to the good stuff, you have to be at a track. The peak power kicked in well over 11k rpm so to feel it you had to break the law or be at a track. It hated low speed riding, and just like many Ducati's feels choppy and unhappy at low rpm's. Once you were out giving it a good go, it all smooths out and the bike feels fantastic. I know you said the Tuono feels "agricultural" at low RPM's, but it's smoother than the Ducati in those ranges for sure. I also wished the Ducati had a fuel gauge (still not sure why that isn't standard). Both fantastic bikes though, and if I tracked more often, I'd have kept the Ducati.
@@bschoenecker thanks for the report, I think I would feel very much the same with the street fighter, naked bikes need low down torque so you don’t have to mail it high revs. I just don’t understand some manufacturers really, it’s a road bike so make it usable for the road. I’ve heard many prefer the V2 Streetfighter for that very same reason and the V2 Multistrada
@@MOTOUK1 I agree. The Tuono has the character to enjoy high and low rpm... making it a motorcycle for the streets and the track. The Streetfighter V4 isn't fun on the streets, but the V2 is. The multistrada V4 has the torque where you need it, but lacks character with the original exhaust.
I've got 2023 Tuono Factory. Easy to turn it into a sports tourer. Hepco & Becker rear plate, decent bag options up to 50l, SW Motech Pro Sports tank bag upto 22l. bar risers & heated grips The Aprilia engine is one of the best ever Done 2 big uk tours now and no issues other than less than ideal range
Correct in saying it feels agricultural in the lower rpms it's a pure racing machine and the harder you ride it the smoother the engine and chassis become to a point where nothing else comes close.
Yamaha mt10 after decat/exhaust and ecu "flash" is absolutely deplorable in terms of fuel efficiency. Anyone that says they're getting 35-40mpg after these mods is absolutely full of 💩! You're either pushing it while idling in neutral or coasting for miles downhill in neutral. 1st gen mt10 still a great value here in the states but I average about 25 mpg. However I do stuff like head straight to a several mile long viaduct close to my house and send it FULL SAIL on a regular basis. 62 yrs old and I have rarely jumped off the mt10 without hitting triple digits.....and that's mph, not kph. And no, I'm not "crazy."
I owned my MT10SP for 6 years recently sold, i had it ecu flashed after first service and noticed approx depending how i rode it 20 miles extra to a tank on a good day. Not MPG but 20 miles per tank. They are great bikes 👍
Thanks for all the things you said on the video. I too have an 10SP with bolt ons like we all do, and I have the itch for the aprilia that does not go away. I think this video calms me down a bit
@@MOTOUK1 i contacted the dealer this morning before reading this: Two things can happen. It just doesn't add any value or dramatic difference to my mt10SP and I am happy forgetting about it, or I put an offer on the spot and try to buy one. Testing one for me is the point of no return
If you disconnect the Exhaust flapper valve all the Torques are then available. I also went from 15/40 to 15/44 gearing for better acceleration on my '21 Base Model. FYI Factory is geared 15/42.
I noticed you were mainly short shifting it & missing out on the torque. It's an engine that likes the higher rev' range. Great track bike (as you mentioned).
@@MOTOUK1 The standard showroom V4 Factory has done Donnington Park in 1.37.5. Road tyres, no race tuning, nothing & on a cold day. The lap record is 1.27.5 & it was done on a Suzuki Moto GP bike. It wouldn't take much to have the V4 Factory up to bonkers performance on the track.
These bikes have lots of apeal as something nicely rounded and they look the business. From a practical point of view I think the GSX1000 GT would be a more reliable choce. That said, I am completly torn on these. How does the Aprillia shape up against the VFR V4 engine. The later is a peach in many ways and it is a shame Honda ditched the format.
Interesting observation on the power delivery down low, I have a 21 rsv4 and just added a 22 mt10 sp, I felt the opposite. I think it’s because my Aprilia is decated and tuned whereas my Yamaha is bone stock with 20 miles on the clock.
Hi, before I bought my MT I looked at the Aprilia it was the 1000cc then(2017)looked at the KTM as well and the BMW,did not like the look of the BMW, And thought with the money I would save on the MT compared to the other two it made sense to buy the MT, After having it flashed and exhaust changed and different pads in the front, I still had money left to make it my own, compared to the new price of the other two, But we all have different tastes so I guess they are all awesome and I do believe that sports bikes are becoming a less sensible option.
You made a good choice with the MT10 as I did 👌 everybody’s taste is different and while my videos are only my opinion I love hearing everybody else’s 👍 thanks for tuning in again 🙏
Morning nick great video as always Aprilia looks a great bike. As you know I’ve had my mt 10 tourer for over 4 years now and had no problems but I’ve just come back from a tour to France and Spain for 8 days when in Andorra on a hot day we had a coffee for 30 minutes went back to ride and my keys wouldn’t turn the ignition on all 5 of us lads couldn’t get it to start after 20 minutes one lad come back with lube from a shop we put it on the key and tried for another 10 minutes until it finally turned the ignition on I don’t know if it had anything to do with the rain and sun over the days but if we didn’t get the lube I don’t think the bike would of stared if we hadn’t been near a shop I think I would of been stranded waiting for the rac I know it’s a long story but it’s mite happen to someone else with a mt 10 and thought this text would help someone else thanks
Hi Steve thanks 🙏 now that you mention it I’ve had 2 times recently after washing the bike it wouldn’t start, I left it to next day to dry out and it started. I wonder if water is going to bottom of the key barrel ? I will get some lube in now and pack it with some grease. In a way I’m happy not to be taking mine on the europe trip as have something on the way that’s more comfy 👍 thanks for tuning in Steve.
It really is a great looking bike Nick and I totally agree about those cheapy mudguards .Not one I would choose personally and the standard colour's sound very uninspiring especially at the prices they are put out at . Good one look forward to the Triumph coming 👌😊
I've got the 2016 Tuono v4 factory, it's an awesome bike and I've done 30.000km in 2 years, but I am now seriously considering switching to the 2022 MT10SP! The Yamaha is truly more comfortable for daily and 2up riding.
Hi Peter, have you test ridden one? Suggest do so. It’s more comfy, usable for most riding occasions and you still get an awesome sounding CP4 engine 👍 it’s a bike I won’t part with after 4 years. Thanks for tuning in, plenty vids on my channel on the 10 to check out
@@MOTOUK1 yes I have. Everything you've mentioned are the exact reasons why I'm considering the change! Here's me following my friend on his 2017 mt10sp: th-cam.com/video/MtGKRNc1fks/w-d-xo.html
Let's be honest you can't compare the mt10 with the tuono. Aprilla is far superior in every aspect. The mt10 is the budget bike when you can't afford the big boys
@@swoosh26 But I’m comparing the MT10SP to the Tuono, and the MT10SP wins on comfort, more reliable, one of the best engines the CP4, Ohlins, and Chasis. If you’ve ridden the MT10SP back to back with the Tuono you would understand, so I’m guessing you have not.
@@MOTOUK1 I haven't because I only looked at the top naked bikes. Bmw s1000r Speed triple 2022 Ktm super duke 1290r Ducati streetfighter v4 And no the yamaha I didn't even consider because it's a budget bike compared to the others. No hate just facts
@@MOTOUK1 and it's just plain ugly. But you lost all credit when you say the yahama has a better engine and chassis them the tuono. That's just hilarious 😂
Yeah, I've got the '21 Non Factory not as showy but has higher Top Speed with better wind protection & 15/40 gearing, Factory is 15/42. Ive changed mine to 15/44 for better acceleration.
Agree Kal, seams like last few years everything jumped from 10k to 15k for naked and now over 20k for sport bikes, with the exotic in the 30k plus range - mental
I found the MT10 electronics to be abrupt and unpredictable, the Aprilia has the smoothest in the business
I could never choose the MT-10 over the Tuono, but I respect your opinion, everyone is different! I've owned the Streetfighter V4S, and changed up for a 22 Tuono V4 Factory recently. The absolute two highlights on the Tuono that made me switch, were the chassis and engine. I'm not sure I've ever felt a better bike chassis, and the Factory even has cast wheels! It feels more nimble than the Streetfighter despite weighing more. The engine is an engineering masterwork (minus the horrible Euro 5 mess). The torque curve is phenomenal, and the sound and feel are tough to beat. The electronics package and Ohlins semi-active are also second to none for a road/track bike.
How did you find the V4S, not ridden one. ?
@@MOTOUK1 I loved the Streetfighter, but to get to the good stuff, you have to be at a track. The peak power kicked in well over 11k rpm so to feel it you had to break the law or be at a track. It hated low speed riding, and just like many Ducati's feels choppy and unhappy at low rpm's. Once you were out giving it a good go, it all smooths out and the bike feels fantastic. I know you said the Tuono feels "agricultural" at low RPM's, but it's smoother than the Ducati in those ranges for sure. I also wished the Ducati had a fuel gauge (still not sure why that isn't standard). Both fantastic bikes though, and if I tracked more often, I'd have kept the Ducati.
@@bschoenecker thanks for the report, I think I would feel very much the same with the street fighter, naked bikes need low down torque so you don’t have to mail it high revs. I just don’t understand some manufacturers really, it’s a road bike so make it usable for the road. I’ve heard many prefer the V2 Streetfighter for that very same reason and the V2 Multistrada
@@MOTOUK1 I agree. The Tuono has the character to enjoy high and low rpm... making it a motorcycle for the streets and the track. The Streetfighter V4 isn't fun on the streets, but the V2 is. The multistrada V4 has the torque where you need it, but lacks character with the original exhaust.
Tuono best sounding engine on the planet
Agree there ?
I've got 2023 Tuono Factory. Easy to turn it into a sports tourer. Hepco & Becker rear plate, decent bag options up to 50l, SW Motech Pro Sports tank bag upto 22l. bar risers & heated grips
The Aprilia engine is one of the best ever
Done 2 big uk tours now and no issues other than less than ideal range
Correct in saying it feels agricultural in the lower rpms it's a pure racing machine and the harder you ride it the smoother the engine and chassis become to a point where nothing else comes close.
I totally agree with the 2× carbon
Yamaha mt10 after decat/exhaust and ecu "flash" is absolutely deplorable in terms of fuel efficiency. Anyone that says they're getting 35-40mpg after these mods is absolutely full of 💩! You're either pushing it while idling in neutral or coasting for miles downhill in neutral. 1st gen mt10 still a great value here in the states but I average about 25 mpg. However I do stuff like head straight to a several mile long viaduct close to my house and send it FULL SAIL on a regular basis. 62 yrs old and I have rarely jumped off the mt10 without hitting triple digits.....and that's mph, not kph. And no, I'm not "crazy."
I owned my MT10SP for 6 years recently sold, i had it ecu flashed after first service and noticed approx depending how i rode it 20 miles extra to a tank on a good day. Not MPG but 20 miles per tank. They are great bikes 👍
Mt10 over a Tuono… come on
Yes every day
Thanks for all the things you said on the video. I too have an 10SP with bolt ons like we all do, and I have the itch for the aprilia that does not go away. I think this video calms me down a bit
😆 go test ride one if you can, its a great bike and only my opinion, but i would rather have my Mt10 tbh 👌 thanks for tuning in and subbing
@@MOTOUK1 i contacted the dealer this morning before reading this: Two things can happen. It just doesn't add any value or dramatic difference to my mt10SP and I am happy forgetting about it, or I put an offer on the spot and try to buy one. Testing one for me is the point of no return
If you disconnect the Exhaust flapper valve all the Torques are then available. I also went from 15/40 to 15/44 gearing for better acceleration on my '21 Base Model. FYI Factory is geared 15/42.
Sounds awesome, 👌
I noticed you were mainly short shifting it & missing out on the torque. It's an engine that likes the higher rev' range. Great track bike (as you mentioned).
🤣🤣 problem is if your at 10k rpm then you hit the next corner over 100mph all a little bit much power for the road I think 🤔
@@MOTOUK1 The standard showroom V4 Factory has done Donnington Park in 1.37.5. Road tyres, no race tuning, nothing & on a cold day. The lap record is 1.27.5 & it was done on a Suzuki Moto GP bike. It wouldn't take much to have the V4 Factory up to bonkers performance on the track.
@@MOTOUK1 So it is too fast to use all its power on public roads.
@@markatchison9974 my licence wouldn’t be clean if I owned one 🤣
@@markatchison9974 most performance bikes have too much power for the road
These bikes have lots of apeal as something nicely rounded and they look the business. From a practical point of view I think the GSX1000 GT would be a more reliable choce. That said, I am completly torn on these. How does the Aprillia shape up against the VFR V4 engine. The later is a peach in many ways and it is a shame Honda ditched the format.
The V4 engines on the Aprilia are amazing. Used to own a vfr800 VTEC and loved that v4
Hello,
Really like the way you present. No fuss.
Crisp , clear, very nice. Keep going. 😺
Thanks 🙏 appreciated
Interesting observation on the power delivery down low, I have a 21 rsv4 and just added a 22 mt10 sp, I felt the opposite. I think it’s because my Aprilia is decated and tuned whereas my Yamaha is bone stock with 20 miles on the clock.
Euro 5 to blame I reckon 👍
Hi, before I bought my MT I looked at the Aprilia it was the 1000cc then(2017)looked at the KTM as well and the BMW,did not like the look of the BMW, And thought with the money I would save on the MT compared to the other two it made sense to buy the MT, After having it flashed and exhaust changed and different pads in the front, I still had money left to make it my own, compared to the new price of the other two, But we all have different tastes so I guess they are all awesome and I do believe that sports bikes are becoming a less sensible option.
You made a good choice with the MT10 as I did 👌 everybody’s taste is different and while my videos are only my opinion I love hearing everybody else’s 👍 thanks for tuning in again 🙏
Morning nick great video as always Aprilia looks a great bike. As you know I’ve had my mt 10 tourer for over 4 years now and had no problems but I’ve just come back from a tour to France and Spain for 8 days when in Andorra on a hot day we had a coffee for 30 minutes went back to ride and my keys wouldn’t turn the ignition on all 5 of us lads couldn’t get it to start after 20 minutes one lad come back with lube from a shop we put it on the key and tried for another 10 minutes until it finally turned the ignition on I don’t know if it had anything to do with the rain and sun over the days but if we didn’t get the lube I don’t think the bike would of stared if we hadn’t been near a shop I think I would of been stranded waiting for the rac I know it’s a long story but it’s mite happen to someone else with a mt 10 and thought this text would help someone else thanks
Hi Steve thanks 🙏 now that you mention it I’ve had 2 times recently after washing the bike it wouldn’t start, I left it to next day to dry out and it started. I wonder if water is going to bottom of the key barrel ? I will get some lube in now and pack it with some grease. In a way I’m happy not to be taking mine on the europe trip as have something on the way that’s more comfy 👍 thanks for tuning in Steve.
It really is a great looking bike Nick and I totally agree about those cheapy mudguards .Not one I would choose personally and the standard colour's sound very uninspiring especially at the prices they are put out at . Good one look forward to the Triumph coming 👌😊
Cheer bud, 👌 looking forward to the RR and the big reveal of the bike I will be taking into Europe. Stay tuned 👍
My Tarmac Grey '21 is a sleeper its quicker than the factory he he.
I've got the 2016 Tuono v4 factory, it's an awesome bike and I've done 30.000km in 2 years, but I am now seriously considering switching to the 2022 MT10SP! The Yamaha is truly more comfortable for daily and 2up riding.
Hi Peter, have you test ridden one? Suggest do so. It’s more comfy, usable for most riding occasions and you still get an awesome sounding CP4 engine 👍 it’s a bike I won’t part with after 4 years. Thanks for tuning in, plenty vids on my channel on the 10 to check out
@@MOTOUK1 yes I have. Everything you've mentioned are the exact reasons why I'm considering the change!
Here's me following my friend on his 2017 mt10sp:
th-cam.com/video/MtGKRNc1fks/w-d-xo.html
@@Peter-Parkey awesome video 👌
It's hard to beat a Yamaha! All things considered... I've been riding them for a little over a half a century... they've never let me down.
Agree 👌
Let's be honest you can't compare the mt10 with the tuono. Aprilla is far superior in every aspect. The mt10 is the budget bike when you can't afford the big boys
@@swoosh26 But I’m comparing the MT10SP to the Tuono, and the MT10SP wins on comfort, more reliable, one of the best engines the CP4, Ohlins, and Chasis. If you’ve ridden the MT10SP back to back with the Tuono you would understand, so I’m guessing you have not.
@@MOTOUK1 I haven't because I only looked at the top naked bikes.
Bmw s1000r
Speed triple 2022
Ktm super duke 1290r
Ducati streetfighter v4
And no the yamaha I didn't even consider because it's a budget bike compared to the others. No hate just facts
@@MOTOUK1 and it's just plain ugly. But you lost all credit when you say the yahama has a better engine and chassis them the tuono. That's just hilarious 😂
I know not to judge a bike on looks alone but it's so good looking 😂 standard probably the better bike for the road though and cheaper.
Yeah, I've got the '21 Non Factory not as showy but has higher Top Speed with better wind protection & 15/40 gearing, Factory is 15/42. Ive changed mine to 15/44 for better acceleration.
Tuono with akro, more raw snd fun then Mt 10🤙🔥🔥
Both great fun and best sounding engines when coupled to an ackrapovic 👍
I think it's a honda goldwing you are taking to Europe !!
🤣🤣 yes like TMF not, sorry but if I was to take a gold wing I may as well be in a car 🚗
@@MOTOUK1 Ha Ha.
Hi nick you will love the Ktm super duke I fancy one
Ooh I know I will, just need to get hold of one soon 👌 planning is on the works
cool! please test new MT-10 sp)
Thanks 👍 yes trying to get hold of the new MT10SP
@@MOTOUK1 I am considering buying a new tiger 1200 GT PRO, MT-10 SP, Multistrada. But straight MT 10 interested and liked it!
@@olgamashkova1913 not ridden the Multistrada as yet but have the triumph for test soon on the channel stay tuned 👍
Bike prices are crazy
Agree Kal, seams like last few years everything jumped from 10k to 15k for naked and now over 20k for sport bikes, with the exotic in the 30k plus range - mental
If there were not loans and pcp deals sales would be awful
Give me the crossplane any day..
Me too G C 👍
keep up making good video, look like that you are not payd to talke good of bikes that you test. That is good.Perfer videos like you make.
Thanks Thomas, we always try to keep it real and honest here, only my opinion though. Thanks for tuning in 👌