Top 5 - What I HATE about the 2021 Aprilia Tuono Factory V4
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Do you have your own dislikes about this bike? Me too, and here is my top 5 things I hate about the Aprilia Tuono factory v4 2021.
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Have to agree with you on most of those points. I also have a 2021 Factory. And it's hard to come up with too many negatives. To comment on a few of your points:
1) Neutral is not the easiest to find but it was also the same if not worse on my KTM 1290 SDR, so a little used to it
2) Changed the stock mirrors out immediately to bar ends so didn't notice the CC location being a bit wonky
3) I too would have preferred the same handlebar rise as the Non Factory but I get it
4) And yes, this bike eats up gas like you would not believe. Never had a bike just choke down gas like this one.
But same as you, I still consider it the best bike I've every owned.
Nice to see you have similar issues but also agree it’s a great bike 😁
Which year was your SDR? Lookin at both the Tuono and the SDR, not sure what to buy. Why do you like the tuono more? :-)
I haven’t owned a SDR, I bought a 2022 SDR GT. I have done a review on the SDR however.
I would still go with the tuono. The engine is its best feature. What do you prefer, v2 or v4. The v2 KTM engine still isn’t as refined as I like. The tuono delivers on that front.
As I say to everyone, the best thing to do is get yourself a test ride on both. There are so many different factors between riders that my thoughts and opinions might be completely different to yours.
@@DSR1YT Thanks!
I’ve owned and really like twins. Never owned a V4, but tested a Streetfighter V4. I am a sucker for great sounding engines and the V4 is really one of the greatest sounding ones imo!
You are right, i need to test them both before i decide :-)
If it’s the engine and the sound you enjoy then you can’t go wrong with the tuono. Better sounding exhaust note from stock than the SDR in my opinion. (Waiting for all the SDR owners to tell me my opinion is wrong) 😁
hey i had the same neutral issue with my tuono. just adjust the clutch for less slack that way the clutch fully disengages when you pull the lever and it’ll pop right into neutral every time!
Glad there is an easy fix to this problem. Thanks for sharing it. Ride safe.
I own the 2018 Factory and what I do not like is the following:
1) Cruise control increase and decrease speed...it's way to hard both accelerating and breaking.
2) Riding position but I have handlebar risers so one inch up and one inch back. That helped a lot. But the knee bend is way to sporty.
3) The bike is bit tiny for a 194 cm (6.36) tall rider
What I love the most is the engine, how it sounds and the fantastic quick shifter
You can't beat the engine/exhaust note when the butterfly valve opens up. intoxicating.
I wonder how many things the bikes hates about u
With all that wondering, did you conjure up some answers to your thought provoking question?
I have a non-factory Tuono with bar risers [28mm] from Motea. I can travel all day with it. Not sure why people mostly buy the Factory. I also don't understand why people risk their £1k iPhone like that. Mine goes in the tank bag, inside its protective shell, and Bluetooths to the Beeline 2 which sits on the handlebar and costs £175. You only want minimal info from your navigation on a motorcycle otherwise it is distracting. My phone never comes out of its case and has no scratches or scuffs, and will last for years [hopefully !!].
I honestly wasn't in the market for a Tuono, never even thought about owning one, took a test ride on this exact bike, loved it, and with the channel I was working with the dealer I tested the bike through, so I got a good deal on my PX and then picked up this as an EX-Demo so even cheaper. Ive always had my phone on a quad lock mount on all of my bikes, its never come off or had any issues.
Only time I had an issue with my phone is when it was on a BMW S1000R in a cheap amazon mount, that did break the camera :).
I also dont like turn by turn nav, I much prefer to have the full map up on display, each to their own though, as long as we get to our destination it doesn't matter how we got there aye :)
So I have a '21 TV4 Factory as well
1. On finding neutral, the shoes I wear make a difference - my Sidi's make it more intuitive than my TCX's. Maybe it's just a muscle memory thing - but something for your consideration.
2. On the cruise control flashing - I get the feeling it's for more litigious countries - doesn't make it ok, but could just be about overly conservative legal counsel.
3. Position of the bars - definitely agree, my out of shape body does suffer. I am focusing on hinging at the hips, intentionally unloading my wrists, gripping the tank better - helps me get through about 100km more focused on the riding than any pains
4. I found that the fuel mileage improved after my first service, not so much to make it a touring bike though :) Also make sure you've had the latest map installed on the bike - won't help mileage, but general usability.
Thanks for the comment budget connoisseur. Always like it when other riders share their experiences as well as I know other riders read these comments and will find the info useful.
Have a good day and ride safe.
I've got a 2022 Tuono V4 Factory. Only minor gripe it there is absolutely no storage. Not even a small place for insurance and registration. But overall a small price to pay for the best bike (by far) I've ever owned.
Fortunately not something we have to worry about in the UK.
@@DSR1YT dumb question but you're not required to bring that with you?
No mate we aren’t. They can run their checks on you from their car. Or they give you a 7 day notice to show your documents in a police station. Is as far as I’m aware. Only been pulled over once and I had my driving licence on me. That’s all I needed at the time. 🤙
I think the fuel light just comes on too early… plenty of fuel left in the tank but still you start looking for a fuel station ☺️
Agreed mate, when I fill up I’m around 13litres but I know the tank is bigger than that. Never want to risk the fuel light though 🤣
i have a 20 factory. neutral issue, hot starting, low bars, fuel range and lastly, position of indicator switch to thumb distance. but they all disappear once i crack the throttle and that pearl of an engine comes on pipe!
Haha glad it wasn’t just me that had those issues. And I agree, still the best bike ive owned 🤣🤙
You can get handlebar risers for the factory and adjustable rearsets where you can have the pegs lower
I know there is usually a work around for most my issues. I like pointing out the issues from stock so others are aware of them. Luckily this bike has gone and I’ve had 4 other bikes since. 😁
I also come from a 2021 MT-10SP. There is no comparison in my view, the Aprilia has in a different league. My best mate (KTM 1290 SDR 2020) said he has to ride much harder now to keep up with me (he is a better rider), before he was always running up my rear. The main thing is it is so easy to go fast on this bike safely and the engine has so much more engine braking and the torque is sublime just power everywhere, I hardly use the front brake anymore whereas on the MT-10 I was on it continuously. The MT-10 was a great fun bike but this Tuono is sheer class. I will never go back to an inline 4 again, I have been bitten by the V4 bug. I'll buy another one when they do a significant upgrade.
I agree about braking. The road is not a circuit. The pleasure of a ride is in setting the bike up for a corner and matching the gear and revs to enable the speed to be reduced without braking. Brakes are for problems with other traffic, and junctions. The quickshifter makes it a real pleasure and skill to change down appropriately.
In regards to ya fuel mileage, the last blob on your gauge goes red when ya hit about 1.5 liters in the tank.
I always end up filling up when the light goes on, and one blob is left but there is still about a gallon left in the tank so 80-100 miles depending on riding an still have a gallon left before the red light. Some one needs to ride till it stops.
I hadn’t realised the fuel light turned a different colour before last week when I read another comment.
I’ve changed the tuono for a 1290 GT now but I will be making this exact video soon for the GT. How many miles till the Fuel light and how many till empty. Cheers Benjamin. Ride safe.
I also come from the MT-10 (albeit via a Tracer 900 GT). My thoughts...
1. I don't really have issues with neutral
2. My other gripe with the CC is I often tag the high beam with my index finger and also, there's no reset feature. I liked that the MT could go to the previous set speed. And to nit-pick, the speeding or slowing with the +/- was smoother on the MT.
3. Agree, for general riding, the MT was better but the Tuono is much better for sports riding. I'm riding with taller risers (base model risers) for winter but had the lower risers (factory risers) for end of summer riding.
4. I don't have any issues with the fuel range, it's no worse than the MT... The economy so far has been about the same.
5. As for extra things I don't like... The wind protection is worse. I am currently running a Powerbronze screen which helps but, I had a Puig screen on the MT-10 which was much better all round for wind deflection... Also, I like the 'light' controls on the MT. I find the throttle is a bit heavier on the Tuono which affects my right wrist (had scapholunate surgery post MTB crash), so I rely on the CC a lot more.
In favour of the Tuono, by miles, is the ability to enjoy the sound with the standard pipe. The MT-10 was always limited... Quiet or loud. Disable the exhaust valve on the Tuono and it's the best compromise all round (IMO)(Gabro standard map). Also, the ability to change tour/sport/user modes on the fly is brilliant!
Thanks for the comment Paul. Some great points you’ve picked up on which I can agree with as well.
So you are able to use the non-factory risers on your factory bike with no problems (e.g. brake/clutch cable or steering lock)?
@@windyrun7979 There shouldn't be any issues. You may need to loosen the brake hose clamp on the lower triple and slide the brake hose up a bit, but that's it.
Funny video; being the owner of a 2019 and now 2021 V4 Tuono factory , cant disagree with a few of the grips; and still the most intoxicating, neck snapping, gut wrenching fun you can imagine! A set of discreet handle bar risers made a difference. Fuel range solved; I bought a 2 litre fuel can which sits in my small Kriega. Riding hard in the Black Forest and B500, fuel light on at 90 miles; riding not as hard, managed nearly 140 mile.
Glad others agree with me. Amazing bike. People argued against my statement of fuel light on at 85 miles, i just report what i see, don’t need to willy wave around here :)
The fuel filler cap on the US models has a hole the same size as the pump nozzle so when fueling (very frequently) it is impossible to see how much you've added until gas sprays out allover the tank.
Same as the uk one. Having to hover the nozzle to see when it’s full to the brim
I have a 17 tuono and riding with my mate on his CBR 1000, same speed etc. Stop for fuel if he fills up and it costs £11 it will of cost me £15.50. It's car economy.
I bloody love it 😊.
I bet he wasn't smiling as much as you though, man I miss my tuono :)
Why did you swap to a 1290 GT then?
I’m on the verge of buying a new Tuono, but no one seems to keep them very long, why is that?
What is it that makes you want to chop a virtually new bike in ??
It’s a fair question Poucher.
Making TH-cam videos brings along all the filming kit etc. having a bike that could hold the gear is ideal for me. The GT is more comfortable to ride long distance and I’m able to get 240 miles to a tank which is also important not only for times when I do trips but also at the moment with fuel prices increasing this also helps out.
If I just wanted a bike for me to go out on on a Sunday then I would have kept it.
Wondering about the aggressive riding position. I own the tuono 660. How tall are you? Im 6 foot 3 inches (190cm) tall and i dont mind the handle bar position, but my legs feel incredibly tucked in and I get an occasional cramp in my leg.
Hay, I’m 6’1”. It’s aggressive, but I’d still have one 🤣
Best to put it in neutral before you are at a standstill
Sometimes it’s not feasible to do this, but I get what you are saying. Just annoying this is needed to get it into neutral.
I came from an MT10 too
Riding position: The MT10 has a more upright position which I feel is not as nice. After riding the MT for a few hours my backside was really aching and that’s with the comfort seat.
The Aprilia is the best compromise I find between race and bolt upright bikes, and I find it takes weight off both your wrists and backside distributing the weight better for a more comfortable ride (The MT was one of the most uncomfortable rides seating that I have ever had). I also found because the MT is more bolt upright it doesn't corner anywhere near as well as the Aprilia.
Fuel: Well, who buys a super or super naked bike and cares about fuel consumption? Surely you know this before you buy a bike.
Cruise control: Lights on the dash flashing? bit of a personal issue here I think and yes you did say your bike your gripes. My MT cruise control never worked correctly unfortunately because of break switch problems which I think they fixed by recall now. As for the button problem take those big bat ears off which spoil the look of the bike and get some decent bar end mirrors.
The only real issue that in my opinion you've come up with is the finding neutral issue, but this is normally remedied when rolling. Also, my friend’s problem was sorted by altering the clutch cable under warranty at the dealership. Must get mine done but doesn’t really bother me.
Like you said they are great bikes. Have fun
What about temperature of the engine while in the city ?
Read some forums, folk is complying on a hot engine…
@@kirillromazenko2799 I don't do any city riding. In my opinion if you want to be city riding this is the wrong bike for you.
Canyon and twisty riding is what this bike loves. It comes with sticky supercoruces on it a quick shifter and down bliper. I guess they are no use for city riding also 😂🤣
@@brettsewell701 agree
However I am living in Athens, Greece where is could be up to 40C.
I had Ducati 848 - it was hot but ok for sportbike. Afraid if Tuono could be hotter due to V4…
Agreed, I didn’t find any issues with the heat as I don’t ride cities, just the twisty backroads. This bike wants to be ridden hard so it can unleash that exhaust note.
Looking forward to watching this all the way through. Quick question, how does this compare to the mt10 you owned? I have a 2017 10 and am seriously considering changing to one of these tuono’s, albeit a slightly older model. Appreciate your thoughts 👍🏻
I too had the 17’ 10, woolwich race kit with slip on and mid pipe exhaust. A good difference over stock 10s.
Now onto the tuono. Stock throughout.
If electronics are important to you then the tuono has it in spades.
Both handle really well.
Tuono is very aggressive with its riding position. Mt10 wins for comfort.
Both are rubbish on fuel. I had the fuel light on at 93miles the other day. I do believe it comes on slightly early but won’t risk running it dry and being stranded.
They both have a fantastic engine and sound but the tuono wins it for me.
Price is also a big difference between them.
Going from the 10 to the tuono it will feel quite natural with its torquey naked riding style.
Also tuono wins on looks 😁.
Hope this helps a little.
Stay tuned for next week when I will be dropping the top 5 things I love about my tuono.
Thank you for approving my purchase im gonna start uploading soon.
You've made a great choice here mate, enjoy your bike and enjoy your journey of filming :)
@@DSR1YT 🫡🫡
As for the operation of the cruise control switch, did Aprilia never think that users would use the exact same mirrors as the standard BMW GS series?
Maybe they all have small hands so their gloves fit between the button and the mirror ok?
Would you say that rides better than the MT-10? More or less fun?
I had a great time with my MT10 but if I had to pick between the two I would definitely be going back to the Tuono. Better engine and looks lovely. 😁
For me finding neutral when stopped has been a problem on a Tuono v2 factory, KTM 1290SDR and currently a Duc monster 1200R. I just get it in there before I come to a stop, pain in the arse but just part of the hurl.
Right pain in the arse isn’t it haha. I used to just use the kill switch instead of trying to find neutral 😁🤙
I had a 10 plate just got a23 I love em tuonos are100 % bang on
Miss the pure power from my tuono. 😁
@@DSR1YT have you sold it
Yes mate. Sold it a few bikes ago. Traded it in for the KTM GT which only lasted 6 months before I swapped that out for the GSA.
Can you fit the standard risers onto the factory?
Not sure. Would be down to the cable slack
#5 would be no storage (even little one under the seat maybe!!!). i was looking to get INNOVV K5 camera sets but there is no room/place to mount the caremas/control unit safely😠
Luckily we’ve usually got a bag with our camera gear in so this isn’t such an issue for us. I used to run with a Kriega bum bag to carry the essentials whilst on a ride. Sadly this wouldn’t help with the innovv issue. Maybe an older go pro with the biggest memory card, set to the lowest settings to maximise memory space connected to a power source?
Great Vid and awesome bike. So the entry level white ones has higher bars? Wow
It does in deed. But still the same awesome engine and characteristics as the tuono.
I'm allergic to blinking lights in my dashboard, so I would just tape over place where the blinking light for the cruise control is. I can't undestand what the designers were thinking.
Agreed, why they thought it was a good idea to leave it like that I don’t know, just change it in the bikes settings.
@@DSR1YT They'll probably release it as an DLC. Fucking bike manufacturers now-a-days.
@3:38 "This isn't a sports bike."
Uh...yes, yes it is.
Um no no it’s not. The rsv4 is the sports bike. The tuono v4 is a hyper naked. 🎤.
I have range anxiety within an hour of leaving the fuel station on my Tuono…
Not just me then aye haha. Luckily I’m now rocking the bmw GSA with 330miles to a tank 😁😁
Good for you! I have one of those too and love it. Such a different experience but I still love the Tuono. Be well.
I was just about to say it sounds like you've brought the wrong bike, but you redeemed yourself with the wheelie 😅 i just got a 16 model and have only riden it like a complete looney but brought it to slow down a bit from my H2 hypersport, im not sure what bike is worst 😂
Thirsty bike?! Try my Ducati Monster 1200R, he drinks more than me!!😂😂
I wouldn’t mind the thirst so much, but when we were in a fuel cost crisis I sure did notice it.
Had the same problem with the neutral on my tuono 660. Pretty annoying I have to say
Glad it’s not just me 😁
Funny thing about the 5th thing... I was waiting to hear what is was because the first 4 , I completely agree with. the Neutral thing, just annoying... I am contemplating bar risers but I love the handling when the red mist descends in a bunch of corners... I don't want any compromise. Fuel range... hmmm I had previous model Tuono's and I have learnt to ride with a friend that can carry a can.
Always having a follow car, I like the idea 😁
I have risers and it made a big difference. I am very satisfied and the riding position is way better now. Mine is 1 inch up and 1 inch back.
Such a small change can make a big difference to how you find riding the bike.
The engine and the sound make all the suffering worth it though 😁🤣
@@johnmoe2806 sounds like you and I shop in the same place, inch and an inch back. Just perfect. For those following you will need to release your front brake line and tweak your cables to accomodate. But it works and it’s comfortable.
Great tip there. Sometimes it’s the small changes that make the biggest difference.
Haha totally agree matey.. I got mine early May and almost 2k on the clock now. Love the bike and still dialing it in but got it set up 90% for me, still playing and trying the suspension settings. I went out today 200 Miles = two full tanks and now last bar on red. Fitted the akro and the sound is intoxicating which really doesn't help my mpg 😃
Like we know if you can't deal with its quirks get a kwack 1000sx which is super smooth, but you won't look as cool or sound like THUNDER 😂
Thanks for sharing 👍
Glad it’s not just me that finds some of bits annoying 😃. I’ve now gone to the darkside and swapped the tuono for a 22 KTM GT.
@@DSR1YT another great bike and probably slightly easier to ride more sensibly ? Or possibly not 🤔
Definitely easier to ride within the law😂. But still the front comes up easily. I must get some funny looks as I leave my side bags on for the camera gear. Going down the road on one wheel.
@@DSR1YT 😂 thanks for the replies I check out the other vids on your channel. It of interest in taking my tuono to Geneva through the Alps which can have unpredictable weather so any thoughts on what tyre choice you would put on the tuono as the supercorsa's are not exactly fantastic in wet conditions, ans power5's might be rated but they don't look nice imo 🤔🧐
I’ve heard good things about the Bridgestone S22’s. Good grip in the dry and hold their own in the wet too. Maybe worth a look, I can personally comment but it’s a tyre id look at putting on my GT next.
Super video mate many thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Thanks mario. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Just get handlebar risers
If I had kept the bike I might of needed to 🤙🤙
@@DSR1YT what did you switch to? And what made you sell it?
@hlpang1075 I went to the KTM 1290 GT from there. But it was a dud bike and got rid of it after 6 months 😁
@@DSR1YT i tried the superduke and honestly it was the best bike i’ve ridden in my life. Suspension, engine, handling, brakes, gearing were all just great. Sorry to hear
@hlpang1075 you win some you lose some 😁. The SD is a crazy arse bike 😆
Flat out or nout
88
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@@DSR1YT I mean I only ride flat out and I’ve had 88 miles of fuel from tank
Get handle bar mirrors lol
I shouldn’t have to change the stock mirrors to be able to use a feature on the bike. Poorly designed.
@@DSR1YT this is true but most bikes do put stupid stuff on bikes standard
99.9% sport bikes mirrors are waste of time
@@mikebroon1 Most bikes I have owned had good or great mirrors, Fireblade, CBR600F, RC51, in fact all my Hondas. Even my Ducati 748 has useable mirrors. The new Triumph 765 RS has terrible mirrors but TBH I think it's cos of the buzzy engine.
Imagine if the dealers just responded to you saying the mirrors suck with ‘ Just buy aftermarket mirrors then’ i know i wouldnt be impressed with that as a response :)
Fuel range 🧐 utter bullshit, we have 4 of these bikes in our group, all fast aggressive riders and the fuel light comes on after 135mls so it will do 160mls,,,, 2 are 2017 and 2 are 2020, after rewatching your vid I can now see why you look for fuel after 80mls, reminds me of an old tale of a women rode her car from London to Cornwall and stumped up £800 for fuel, she never got out of 2nd gear
Must be slowing down for you Bryan.
So to clarify...the reasons you hate the tuono are the same reasons you bought the bike....
And...the mt10 is a pig on fuel. And ugly as sin lol
The MT10 has a face only a mother could love. I used to say though, when im sat on it I can't see how bad the front end looks so its engine made up for the front end. Although the older model is better looking than the newer model in my opinion.
There may be areas I hated on the Tuono. But its still the best bike ive owned so far, I did do a 5 reasons I love the Tuono, don't think its hate videos around here :)
@@DSR1YT hahahaha nah dude i got a 19 speedy 1050RS. Trust me i get it!