Episode 1 (Offlane/3): th-cam.com/video/Fapljcd3L-k/w-d-xo.html Episode 2 (Carry/1): th-cam.com/video/0Im2wRxXqSY/w-d-xo.html Episode 3 (Hard Support/5 - Part 1): th-cam.com/video/-uFThCZ1D6M/w-d-xo.html Episode 4 (Hard Support/5 - Part 2) th-cam.com/video/ng-OArDHZLM/w-d-xo.html Due to the success of the series, we have decided to make this a weekly format. This is not escaping the trench, it's not going to be a grind for ego purposes. This will simply be applying 9k techniques in each of the respective positions to make people aware of the skills and techniques you can use in your own lower mmr games. This is strictly for educational purposes.
I lost it when waifu joined and tried to help not only emotionally but also with advice. And the video title should be changed to 'How to apply 9k tactics while getting a hair massage' 24:59
Holy shit. I will need to watch this 5-6 times and write everything down. Things I didnt understand: 14:30 - forcing FV timewalk before tower comes up?? What is it with the tower? 15:20 - he doesn't want to rotate = he doesn't care because of the hero Mars, or because he is 9k and doesn't want to invest his time into 2k pleb? 4 fundamentals to always think about 1) You need to be able to *clear waves* quickly (→ battlefury AM) 2) You gotta be *survivable* (can 1v1) (→ manta AM) 3) You need *killing* item (→ basher/abyssal AM) → force enemy rotations/get free objectives (towers, roshan) 4) You need *highground* items (assault cuirass, satanic, ..) *BSJ is being funny* Laning - he has nearly perfect LHs (he doesn't miss randomly = he played the hero so many times he is used to its attack animations) - he uses his spells either to deny voids creeps or to secure last hit + harrass the enemy - the goal is to get enemy safelane T1 ASAP => lane sustain items → boot the enemy out of lane → get the tower (vlads - good sustain + ↑ATK of jugg in mid to late) - quick hint - buy faerie fire (or idk how is it spelled) against Witch Doctor to sustain maledict damage (you can notice later in the game Immortal BSJ using neutral item Greater Faerie Fire to sustain the maledict because no one in our bracket gives a flying fuck about maledict after 15 minutes in the game) - draws aggro frequently → secures ranged creep with W - he wants the creeps to be under his tower under one of two conditions: 1) He doesn't have a ulti (below lvl 6) 2) He doesn't have the ulti (cd on Arena) - you can cut the creep wave to "reset" the lane - take the wave near T1 and wave for your creep wave (void gets free wave under tower but after that he is gonna be contested far from tower) - if you are pos 4, or pos 5 it is generally very good idea to let your core get solo XP (things you can do instead: block small camp so they cannot pull/help midlane by securing rune, by poking the other mid etc/go on enemy support and try to hunt him if you get him low/snipe their couriers) -it is 5 minutes in the game → catapults spawn - catapults are mini-objectives to play around because they deal massive damage to enemy towers - when you are trying to push the lane with catapult you will have to deal with the enemy's catapult first → your creeps will be delayed (by killing cata) and therefore there is going to be double wave created → ↑pushing power - If you don't kill enemy core it doesn't necesarily mean bad thing - they will either have to heal somehow which costs money (moneywise, it is cheaper to regen mana than to regen HP!!!) - first item is to clear waves - Vlads - it gives you HP sustain (lifesteal from W of Mars gives you HP from every creep you hit with it) and mana sustain (2 mana per second aura) - Void gets lvl 6 = big power spike in his ultimate but Void isn't really killer hero just yet therefore you need to watch for rotations (from my experience if you just KNOW that there is a thing called powerspike in Dota you can make your game very easily in 2k bracket, 99% of players don't care about that) (again, think of cats and mice) - Mars has 90 sec cooldown which isn't that long, there are way worse cooldowns - don't be afraid to ever use your spells! (Magnuses, Enigmas, Voids, Lunas, .....) - after being elusive towards void (pulling big camp) he runs back full HP, full mana to the lane and again starts to "loosen up" Voids HP → Void has about 50% HP→ Arena-spear = kill (kill is good, because 1) You can pressure the tower 2) You get money 3) Kill on Void means he can't farm while dead) -BSJ didn't mention it, maybe because he has an internal clock and feel, but he went to lane and kill Void when catapults showed up after min 10 = pressure on the tower is huge - he doesn't have ulti and FV does → cat and mouse = pulls again → didn't make it + there was enemy support = go away from the lane for a while and wait until it is under my tower - BSJ decides to go on Sven - but why Sven??? - 1) Void is really behind and will struggle anyway 2) Sven can farm fast so killing him means you really lower his farming speed - I would say that this is phase in which midgame starts Midgame - try to shut down farming carries (Void, Sven) because you are strong; how to be aggresive 101 = go in their jungle and use your shit, just like that - returns to top, because CREEPS = GOLD = ITEMS = POWERSPIKES = KILLS which can be then converted to push - another elusive move, because he doesn't have arena, but Void has Chrono - go behind their tower and cut the creep wave towards river → you can go mid, or stay → BSJ goes mid = he can pressure mid tower (higher map value than top) + he takes DD rune (POWERSPIKE) + he has Arena (POWERSPIKE) - when you make move when you are powerful, you can dive - you should immediately retreat if you: 1) lose the powerspike (you have used the ultimate) 2) See more people TP in (Towers have aura that buff allied heroes around them therefore it is not good to fight them (not to mention dmg from towers)) - he retreats but already knows where he goes, because he wants to kill CREEPS = ge goes top → he can pressure Tower because no one is on lane + someone has used TP to mid, so at least one hero cannot TP in to save the T1 - he solo-kills support = he gets money, support will be dead = you can force 4v5 fight, because there are still more ultis in game - goes back to top, to man-up to the Sven (Sven cannot kill him solo, because he doesn't have items) - he is survivable to man-up 1v1 thanks to Vlads, therefore he goes for solo kill items = Blink, Deso - notice that he ships a lot of clarities, because Mars has mana issues - Again, Mars has ulti = you gotta aggresive and shut down farming enemies = BSJ goes straight into farming Sven → Sven thinks he can kill Mars, but Mars is naturally durable → BSJ kites Mars towards Jugg and they use 2v1 situation to kill Sven (again, it is NOT NEEEDED to KILL sven but to make him feel UNCOMFORTABLE on HIS part of MAP) - notice that he watches items on other heroes (enemy and allied) (I have good experience with this. I have played a good amount of Legion Commander. Many players think that Linkens Sphere is the counter against Duel but when I learnt to always check enemy items I noticed them building linkens → I will go for Linkens-cancelling items. Ez game, when you spent 2k on Force Staff vs Core who spends 5.5k on bullshit item) - pushes out wave towards enemy bot T2 → TPs away to top = kills CREEPS, pushes wave → goes jungle (farms hard) - it is around 20 minutes in game, enemy casters have usually high level so they can kill you = you might need to buy BKB, because of that - BSJ is strong, because he has been farming a lot → wants to jump heroes around mid (his team is 2k-slow-paced therefore he got almost killed) → they take good teamfight, because having Deso on Mars feels actually pretty OP → they win TF → pushes and kills creeps - you can go to base to regen any time of game (I struggle with that while laning because I usually ship out regen with courier and try to soak XP from the lane while having 20% HP) → try to kill some creep camps while on the way *WIP, ended at **30:00**, ty for your support*
Just be 7000 mmr higher than any other in your game and its easy. But its hard when there is casual party of 3ees that are ancient - divine smurfs smurffing against u and u are NOT 7k above but mby 500 above
Most informative smurf match I've ever seen. I think it really makes a difference that you're genuinely teaching best practices and respecting the potential of your opponents rather than doing what most smurfs do and letting the power go to their head and playing like a maniac to prove they can.
not to take away from bsj cuz this is really good content i'm grateful for, but henry did a whole series like this twice in a row where he explained his thought process in excruciating detail.. i'll admit henry does tend to get a bit full of himself at times and his peak mmr isn't as high as bsj, but the hate he gets is disproportionate to those flaws.
@@prettymaladies its just the man is quite arrogant. Even top tier players such as ceb and w33 gets hate when they play arrogantly. What more henry that not only play arrogantly but also talk shit the most. The hate he gets is mostly about his attitude and if he continue on his attitude that i have seen a lot such as that puck game where he mentions "i deserve higher mmr and those here in my bracket are shit" where he is stuck at 500ish immortal and cant rise while pro player smurf accounts can reach top 100 fast is a good telling of his own skills. Even the fucking toxic E.E is in the upper ranks of dota despite his shity attitude because his skills suite his bracket. Henry does not have the excuse to shit on his teamates if he cant rise on his own.
@@BzrLee this is a factually incorrect statement man. he does buy accounts but it's not that often, and for specific reasons. I been watching him for a long time and I've noticed he buys accounts. but I also noticed him grind straight up to 7k from 6k in a month when all his smurfs got banned, and his twitch got shut down, and he had personal issues. he is narcissistic as fuck and I get that can be off putting but these false statements are just a bandwagon that people love to jump on against him for some reason. if its just his personality flaws then just don't subscribe or watch his stuff, there's no need to spread lies about him - what u said is just a regurgitated statement that has been around ever since he started gaining traction online. I literally used to not watch his stream half the time because of his toxic tendencies but spreading lies about him does me zero good and I'm not here to hurt his reputation just cuz it's in fashion to do so within certain spheres of the dota community
My biggest problem with playing in the trench is that a lot of things in dota don't pay off immediately, and when I know I'm not great, and the games are inconsistent, it makes it hard to realize in the moment whether what I'm doing is wrong or right. Even worse when you have a team goading you to do something else. Just makes it hard to learn/internalize new concepts. I definitely like this video, gives me more confidence in just doing what seems correct regardless of whatever else is going on. My worst enemy in any match is definitely myself.
I've found this to be one of the most difficult challenges when trying to improve. As a game with high variance, having the confidence to do what it's "right" can be difficult. If you are playing GREAT (compared to your rank) you'll still lose 4 out of 10 games, but you'll steadily climb. Keep doing what it's right!
Thats why you should look at your progress per week or month not perday, if you get more mmr that mean you do something right, that just it, my firstt calibration is 1.3 and im 3.8 at max, i notice something yes you mrr is going up and down, but once youre play style is according to some bracket, even if you loose tons of mmr you'll get to where you belong easily, thats just how dota work, and if you are somehow get really lucky and grind tons of mmr without having the capability to be in there, you'll loose tons of game sooner or later
It's not that bad if you understand what you should do as a support and utilizing what you've got on the hero. The best 4 heroes would look so bad if you play like that guy.
I liked that he missed lots of spells. Reassured me it's not about being perfect mechanically - ok to miss so long as you're doing the right things strategically
@@rykom1ke665 yeah video like this restores hope n humaity. I aalmost gave up when my hand soo slow to take off stat item to regen or global agroo or etc
He missed his spells not for a reason. Why you guys like this video so much?! Do you think the Dire feels the same? Report all smurfs. If you lose lots of games on your bracket this is not a excuse to ruin legends!
the amazing thing about BSJ is that every game i watch him play mars (a hero he plays a lot) he fucks up like 3 kills with bad spears (even against 2ks rofl) and he is still 9k, proof that you dont need to be a god mechanically as long as youre using your brain
I mean a lot of support player is not that mechanical, because support hero is not mechanical at all (well maybe visage, the rest are simpler), for a support positioning is far more important, how to get some gold, how to use gold as efficient because of how little you got
It proves that even a 9k player is not mechanically God. It's the decisions what sets them apart. Use brain more know why you're doing every single thing and know that even if you miss it still makes a better outcome than not doing it.
Well, i usually don't post commentary but after reading the other comment, i feel like i have to : Thanks a lot BSJ for this video ! It's really helpfull. I'm trying so hard to understand and apply your advices, but it's way better with this game as an example ! :) So, even if indeed this video is a "Smurfing game", thank you for making it ! It will be a good tool to analyse.
I'm pretty sure one match of ranked smurfing is enough He's already getting wayy too much backlash from people for just this one game so it's better to learn what we can from this game and then apply his higher MMR fundamentals in our matches because as he said - the same fundementals work in our MMR too
I usually only make it through a few minutes of your full length games that you post here on TH-cam, but I couldn't look away from this one. This is great content. I feel like this one game alone truly illustrates the absence of a "trench".
This is very enlightening BSJ. I also appreciate that you even mechanically played like a 2k for us (missing abilities and shit all the time lol jkjkjk) but really good video I appreciate it.
I got called a smurf on my 1.7k game because I followed the concepts you've been emphasizing BSJ. Don't care whatever your team is doing, just push waves. And I was also a Mars on that game. Thank you very much.
That Luna is that guy in your group who says "Good job guys, we did it" when he hasn't contributed to the group project. Just a joke, he is prob learning, we all do
@@dudeistpreist5721 The so called harass is useless... Lucent beam is not a harassing spell... And he is moreover useless... Coz he soaked the XP... If void was a good player... They would have killed mars, during the XP gap, with help of witch doctor...
@@sakthlaunda2323 harass wasn't useless the witch doctor bought wand instead of regen and then the void couldnt even start to think about trading with the mars if both sides are equally good the lane can go either way, it entirely depends on fuck ups, blocking camps and pulling waves
Excellent performance mr banana. Once again you show that people are archons cuz they deserve to be archons. Once you get rid of that mentality, you’ll start to gain mmr.
Hey, great video. Lots to learn. It would also be really helpful if you could mention a few tips from the enemy’s prospective too, like what should they be doing in response to you. Grow example if you’re pulling the lane and you’re solo, because you’re pos 4 is not there, what should the safe lane do. Or if you’re cutting the waves or sth. Would be really helpful to know and learn. Keep it up!!
I like how besides doing the right thing, the execution was more often than not on point with low mmr bracket xd This makes the video more valuable than doing everything perfectly in a non replicable way
I see a lot of comments like " In my game X happened and that wouldn't work in my game" I think the point Is that choosing a lane pushing hero, farming well, and constantly re-evaluating the situation leads to wins. Not ever game Is winnable, but I'm confident out of 100 games bsj would probably win 85 in this bracket.
BSJ, youve made so many videos all of which have improved my dota 2 experience and play style, but this video was without a doubt the best and most clear explanation of what needs to be done when why and how. Thank you.
ty BSJ, I watch a lot of your videos but for some reason I am just not confident enough to play ranked matches with all the smurf accounts out there and it seems a bit intimidating. that being said very educational and well narrated. cheerss and keep up the great work you've been doing.
I rarely comment on videos, and since Mars is one of my favourite heroes with 90% win rate, I decided to comment on this one. I completely agree with you talking all the game, especially in the beginning of the video about scenarios when (not) to pick him. I have no clue why 140 people disliked this video... Or anytime you get a dislike. They are nuts. Maybe when you popped bkb right when you got it but shit happens and we all did that :))) Like I wanna tell my team, so I ping the item and suddenly whoops :)) But seriously, all the coaching, education, smurfing or playing with Arturo or Sumail, Qojqva series, literally anything with you Brian, top Dota content on TH-cam hands down.
18:34 you can make those late pulls as the creeps walk very far and if you just walked into the trees to meet the upper part of creep wave it aggros 100% of the time. They will see the neutral creeps hit u while in the trees.
You should make this a video series where you would play low MMR bracket once a week or something. I feel like many of your viewers have low mmr and it would benefit us a lot to see these commented games. Not only cores though, rotate positions for every video, should be awesome.
I really like how you made this experimental game very educational and not be like other smurfs who just stomp people, keepin' it just like the usual, very understandable content. By watching your videos I was able to get from legend 3 to ancient 1. Very informative, love your vids! I've learned alot. I hope you would do another experimental game like this but as a support. That'd be really great! Thank You BSJ!
@BSJ dude this is completely changing my mindset on playing the game. I’m 2.7k and this is incredibly helpful. Thank you man. I’ll report back when I cross 3k.
As usual, awesome content and guide/s! Looking at BSJ how he played Mars, he doesn't stay in the woods for so long which can be seen in most typical low mmr bracket as an "OFFLANER". It only shows that when you play with your team and does a decent amount of pressure in lane you can turn the tides. Thanks man!
learned alot from this guy.... very very solid laning phase. which is what i always lack of. Because of your teaching, i have improved my game tremendously.
Remember guys, with a hero like Mars who has mana issues, you always gotta be topped up 33:40 👍 But seriously, thanks for knowledge. BSJ and his crew are doing god's work (smurfing lol). Keep up the good job!
BSJ, please don't listen to all the ignorant comments that say "Wah wah you are smurfing so you must be a bad person, you are ruining games and killing Dota" because for me, this is great content and I really appreciate you taking your time to make this. More power!
That luna is my dream support at 2k compared to the average one who is standing in creep wave randomly attacking creeps and fking up agro. doesn't take away from bsjs points
1. Queuing for all roles...whatever matchmaking selects for me. 2. Queuing for specific role (the one that i enjoy and think i am good at) Does either of above statement matter for increasing chances of good match ups...?
good video bsj, I still always feel critical with this kind of smurfing in a low elo thing. The video is really informative and I think most people get your point and it does seem all logical and easy. On the other side you are still a mechanical superior player to them all, so naturally you will activate bkb and dodge some spells when other poeple actually wouldnt. Last fight mid t3, you pinned mars so quick I had to rewatch the scene, and dodged the chrono kind of. Before sven could bkb. ofc the whole video worked towards this point of going Highground and thus you should be probably ahead and still win the fight, but not everyone has that quick movement and dicision making.
He literally missed spears all the time, mechanical slills are good but ddidnt contribute much this game... The reason he had so strong impact is because every single decision he made he did for a conscious reason. Low rank players tend to just walk around and do things mecanicaly in game, not understanding WHY they are doing it. And offcourse he is better at quick movement and decision making, he is a 9k player, which is why he is doing this videos, to explain to everyone the reasons behind every action.
As a 2k witch doctor spammer, the enemy WD performance burns my eyes. He pulled, and thats nice, and he casts his spells, nice too. Even was aware his void could survive 1v1 against a mars, so being absent from lane a lot was okay so void could get a level advantage. But at no point did he take advantage of being a 600 range character and simply right click the enemy. BSJ was allowed to control the lane because WD simply wasnt landing free right clicks. BSJ even demonstrates all the times he can land free right clicks, and wins the lane because of it. Please, if you're a pos5, watch this and see what the off laner is allowed to do when you dont right click them.
@@johnklaus9111 i am talking about before BSJ was even level 5. WD has really good base damage at even level 1. He could have forced a mars out of lane at level 1-4. BSJ had such a comfy lane because he was basically 1v1 against a faceless void. Mind you, the luna was also useless, so void also was able to do lots of farming too.
@@quad_buck quite the opposite. The entire point of this video is that bsj's followers tell him he does not have valid advice for low mmr players because he doesn't play in low mmr. Since I do play in 2k, I do get to comment on improper play in the 2k bracket, and so can bsj because we have a video now showing it. I am only 2k because I dont play much. Reaching a higher rank is nothing more than slowly grinding out games.
@@sleipnir2034 If u are truly better then the bracket u are in you would get out of there in no time, i literally reached immortal 3 months ago by playing once every 2-3 days with a 70%+ winrate
The things is if you win your lane. Even the threat of walking into another lane as a act of dominance to turn the lane around will help them even if you dont execute the gank and just end up tping back.
Episode 1 (Offlane/3): th-cam.com/video/Fapljcd3L-k/w-d-xo.html
Episode 2 (Carry/1): th-cam.com/video/0Im2wRxXqSY/w-d-xo.html
Episode 3 (Hard Support/5 - Part 1): th-cam.com/video/-uFThCZ1D6M/w-d-xo.html
Episode 4 (Hard Support/5 - Part 2) th-cam.com/video/ng-OArDHZLM/w-d-xo.html
Due to the success of the series, we have decided to make this a weekly format. This is not escaping the trench, it's not going to be a grind for ego purposes. This will simply be applying 9k techniques in each of the respective positions to make people aware of the skills and techniques you can use in your own lower mmr games. This is strictly for educational purposes.
24:58 Ganking by Gf
Really enjoyed the vid! Learned a lot. It's a shame so many others cannot see the value of what you did in the video.
You should be doing more of this. I'm an offlaner and this really openned up my mind.
Absolute noobs Sven and void.. Void just yolos in and turns on mask of madness lile he has 47armor
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lol, I lost it when you said "my support is helping... emotionally"
I lost it when waifu joined and tried to help not only emotionally but also with advice. And the video title should be changed to 'How to apply 9k tactics while getting a hair massage' 24:59
@@rubbelkdiekatz spear!! When he had no mana. At least she knew the spell.
@@jvii9761 She knew that he could Staff / Spear to get the required mana. Even more evil waifu dota skill :D
Holy shit. I will need to watch this 5-6 times and write everything down.
Things I didnt understand:
14:30 - forcing FV timewalk before tower comes up?? What is it with the tower?
15:20 - he doesn't want to rotate = he doesn't care because of the hero Mars, or because he is 9k and doesn't want to invest his time into 2k pleb?
4 fundamentals to always think about
1) You need to be able to *clear waves* quickly (→ battlefury AM)
2) You gotta be *survivable* (can 1v1) (→ manta AM)
3) You need *killing* item (→ basher/abyssal AM) → force enemy rotations/get free objectives (towers, roshan)
4) You need *highground* items (assault cuirass, satanic, ..)
*BSJ is being funny*
Laning
- he has nearly perfect LHs (he doesn't miss randomly = he played the hero so many times he is used to its attack animations)
- he uses his spells either to deny voids creeps or to secure last hit + harrass the enemy
- the goal is to get enemy safelane T1 ASAP => lane sustain items → boot the enemy out of lane → get the tower (vlads - good sustain + ↑ATK of jugg in mid to late)
- quick hint - buy faerie fire (or idk how is it spelled) against Witch Doctor to sustain maledict damage (you can notice later in the game Immortal BSJ using neutral item Greater Faerie Fire to sustain the maledict because no one in our bracket gives a flying fuck about maledict after 15 minutes in the game)
- draws aggro frequently → secures ranged creep with W
- he wants the creeps to be under his tower under one of two conditions:
1) He doesn't have a ulti (below lvl 6)
2) He doesn't have the ulti (cd on Arena)
- you can cut the creep wave to "reset" the lane - take the wave near T1 and wave for your creep wave (void gets free wave under tower but after that he is gonna be contested far from tower)
- if you are pos 4, or pos 5 it is generally very good idea to let your core get solo XP (things you can do instead: block small camp so they cannot pull/help midlane by securing rune, by poking the other mid etc/go on enemy support and try to hunt him if you get him low/snipe their couriers)
-it is 5 minutes in the game → catapults spawn - catapults are mini-objectives to play around because they deal massive damage to enemy towers - when you are trying to push the lane with catapult you will have to deal with the enemy's catapult first → your creeps will be delayed (by killing cata) and therefore there is going to be double wave created → ↑pushing power
- If you don't kill enemy core it doesn't necesarily mean bad thing - they will either have to heal somehow which costs money (moneywise, it is cheaper to regen mana than to regen HP!!!)
- first item is to clear waves - Vlads - it gives you HP sustain (lifesteal from W of Mars gives you HP from every creep you hit with it) and mana sustain (2 mana per second aura)
- Void gets lvl 6 = big power spike in his ultimate but Void isn't really killer hero just yet therefore you need to watch for rotations (from my experience if you just KNOW that there is a thing called powerspike in Dota you can make your game very easily in 2k bracket, 99% of players don't care about that) (again, think of cats and mice)
- Mars has 90 sec cooldown which isn't that long, there are way worse cooldowns - don't be afraid to ever use your spells! (Magnuses, Enigmas, Voids, Lunas, .....)
- after being elusive towards void (pulling big camp) he runs back full HP, full mana to the lane and again starts to "loosen up" Voids HP → Void has about 50% HP→ Arena-spear = kill (kill is good, because 1) You can pressure the tower 2) You get money 3) Kill on Void means he can't farm while dead)
-BSJ didn't mention it, maybe because he has an internal clock and feel, but he went to lane and kill Void when catapults showed up after min 10 = pressure on the tower is huge
- he doesn't have ulti and FV does → cat and mouse = pulls again → didn't make it + there was enemy support = go away from the lane for a while and wait until it is under my tower
- BSJ decides to go on Sven - but why Sven??? - 1) Void is really behind and will struggle anyway 2) Sven can farm fast so killing him means you really lower his farming speed
- I would say that this is phase in which midgame starts
Midgame
- try to shut down farming carries (Void, Sven) because you are strong; how to be aggresive 101 = go in their jungle and use your shit, just like that
- returns to top, because CREEPS = GOLD = ITEMS = POWERSPIKES = KILLS which can be then converted to push
- another elusive move, because he doesn't have arena, but Void has Chrono - go behind their tower and cut the creep wave towards river → you can go mid, or stay → BSJ goes mid = he can pressure mid tower (higher map value than top) + he takes DD rune (POWERSPIKE) + he has Arena (POWERSPIKE)
- when you make move when you are powerful, you can dive - you should immediately retreat if you: 1) lose the powerspike (you have used the ultimate) 2) See more people TP in (Towers have aura that buff allied heroes around them therefore it is not good to fight them (not to mention dmg from towers))
- he retreats but already knows where he goes, because he wants to kill CREEPS = ge goes top → he can pressure Tower because no one is on lane + someone has used TP to mid, so at least one hero cannot TP in to save the T1
- he solo-kills support = he gets money, support will be dead = you can force 4v5 fight, because there are still more ultis in game
- goes back to top, to man-up to the Sven (Sven cannot kill him solo, because he doesn't have items)
- he is survivable to man-up 1v1 thanks to Vlads, therefore he goes for solo kill items = Blink, Deso
- notice that he ships a lot of clarities, because Mars has mana issues
- Again, Mars has ulti = you gotta aggresive and shut down farming enemies = BSJ goes straight into farming Sven → Sven thinks he can kill Mars, but Mars is naturally durable → BSJ kites Mars towards Jugg and they use 2v1 situation to kill Sven (again, it is NOT NEEEDED to KILL sven but to make him feel UNCOMFORTABLE on HIS part of MAP)
- notice that he watches items on other heroes (enemy and allied) (I have good experience with this. I have played a good amount of Legion Commander. Many players think that Linkens Sphere is the counter against Duel but when I learnt to always check enemy items I noticed them building linkens → I will go for Linkens-cancelling items. Ez game, when you spent 2k on Force Staff vs Core who spends 5.5k on bullshit item)
- pushes out wave towards enemy bot T2 → TPs away to top = kills CREEPS, pushes wave → goes jungle (farms hard)
- it is around 20 minutes in game, enemy casters have usually high level so they can kill you = you might need to buy BKB, because of that
- BSJ is strong, because he has been farming a lot → wants to jump heroes around mid (his team is 2k-slow-paced therefore he got almost killed) → they take good teamfight, because having Deso on Mars feels actually pretty OP → they win TF → pushes and kills creeps
- you can go to base to regen any time of game (I struggle with that while laning because I usually ship out regen with courier and try to soak XP from the lane while having 20% HP) → try to kill some creep camps while on the way
*WIP, ended at **30:00**, ty for your support*
I'm rewatching a lot to digest the info all in, your analysis is really useful so keep up the hard work I'll be back to check later :)
Well abyssal blade is both a tank and damage item so yes it would be good.
Just be 7000 mmr higher than any other in your game and its easy. But its hard when there is casual party of 3ees that are ancient - divine smurfs smurffing against u and u are NOT 7k above but mby 500 above
Thank you Cap
Great analysis brother
Most informative smurf match I've ever seen. I think it really makes a difference that you're genuinely teaching best practices and respecting the potential of your opponents rather than doing what most smurfs do and letting the power go to their head and playing like a maniac to prove they can.
not to take away from bsj cuz this is really good content i'm grateful for, but henry did a whole series like this twice in a row where he explained his thought process in excruciating detail.. i'll admit henry does tend to get a bit full of himself at times and his peak mmr isn't as high as bsj, but the hate he gets is disproportionate to those flaws.
@@prettymaladies its just the man is quite arrogant. Even top tier players such as ceb and w33 gets hate when they play arrogantly. What more henry that not only play arrogantly but also talk shit the most. The hate he gets is mostly about his attitude and if he continue on his attitude that i have seen a lot such as that puck game where he mentions "i deserve higher mmr and those here in my bracket are shit" where he is stuck at 500ish immortal and cant rise while pro player smurf accounts can reach top 100 fast is a good telling of his own skills. Even the fucking toxic E.E is in the upper ranks of dota despite his shity attitude because his skills suite his bracket. Henry does not have the excuse to shit on his teamates if he cant rise on his own.
@@prettymaladies Henry is a 4k constantly buying accounts and raging at his team-mates, why would you listen to him?
@@BzrLee this is a factually incorrect statement man. he does buy accounts but it's not that often, and for specific reasons. I been watching him for a long time and I've noticed he buys accounts. but I also noticed him grind straight up to 7k from 6k in a month when all his smurfs got banned, and his twitch got shut down, and he had personal issues. he is narcissistic as fuck and I get that can be off putting but these false statements are just a bandwagon that people love to jump on against him for some reason. if its just his personality flaws then just don't subscribe or watch his stuff, there's no need to spread lies about him - what u said is just a regurgitated statement that has been around ever since he started gaining traction online. I literally used to not watch his stream half the time because of his toxic tendencies but spreading lies about him does me zero good and I'm not here to hurt his reputation just cuz it's in fashion to do so within certain spheres of the dota community
@@BzrLee hey clown, he climbed, did you climb out of your bed today or did you die?
BSJ on my team:
Me as shaman:
My prayers are answered!
bro you are the shaman? xD
It is the free mmr day.
5:25
Are you sure?
@@EliteGamerpk one funniest in game names I've seen in a while 😂
My biggest problem with playing in the trench is that a lot of things in dota don't pay off immediately, and when I know I'm not great, and the games are inconsistent, it makes it hard to realize in the moment whether what I'm doing is wrong or right. Even worse when you have a team goading you to do something else. Just makes it hard to learn/internalize new concepts. I definitely like this video, gives me more confidence in just doing what seems correct regardless of whatever else is going on. My worst enemy in any match is definitely myself.
I've found this to be one of the most difficult challenges when trying to improve. As a game with high variance, having the confidence to do what it's "right" can be difficult. If you are playing GREAT (compared to your rank) you'll still lose 4 out of 10 games, but you'll steadily climb. Keep doing what it's right!
Yeah I pinged 10 times my ult is down as a carry. When my team is constantly trying to take the enemy tower with 5 heroes defending it.
My worst enemy in most cases is my own team.
Thats why you should look at your progress per week or month not perday, if you get more mmr that mean you do something right, that just it, my firstt calibration is 1.3 and im 3.8 at max, i notice something yes you mrr is going up and down, but once youre play style is according to some bracket, even if you loose tons of mmr you'll get to where you belong easily, thats just how dota work, and if you are somehow get really lucky and grind tons of mmr without having the capability to be in there, you'll loose tons of game sooner or later
Just mute the toxics man particularly if you’re not in the mood. Sometimes I insta mute if they talk some dumb shit in chat about picks e.t.c
I felt really exposed while you were watching straight into my soul in the intro
Now this Archon player is going to be convinced that Luna support is a good idea.
Hahaha
70% WR on Luna 4, but that was before the aura rework which granted +damage and +armor
its still good but luna didnt pull or harass at important times.
@@blackstreak02 yea, same , had 70% wr on it ,febby still plays it from time to time but its much worse now :(
It's not that bad if you understand what you should do as a support and utilizing what you've got on the hero. The best 4 heroes would look so bad if you play like that guy.
BSJ is making those stupid mistakes so the game doesn't mistake him for a smurf. Smart.
I liked that he missed lots of spells. Reassured me it's not about being perfect mechanically - ok to miss so long as you're doing the right things strategically
@@rykom1ke665 yeah video like this restores hope n humaity. I aalmost gave up when my hand soo slow to take off stat item to regen or global agroo or etc
He missed his spells not for a reason. Why you guys like this video so much?! Do you think the Dire feels the same? Report all smurfs. If you lose lots of games on your bracket this is not a excuse to ruin legends!
This video felt like a "Bob Ross Plays Dota" kind of video, super chill
Kinda does and just like Bob Ross he makes it look easy...
I’m going to pin him here... against a happily little tree
@@Crimson83blah😂 genius
the amazing thing about BSJ is that every game i watch him play mars (a hero he plays a lot) he fucks up like 3 kills with bad spears (even against 2ks rofl) and he is still 9k, proof that you dont need to be a god mechanically as long as youre using your brain
I mean a lot of support player is not that mechanical, because support hero is not mechanical at all (well maybe visage, the rest are simpler), for a support positioning is far more important, how to get some gold, how to use gold as efficient because of how little you got
yes and bad players can only spot technical mistakes ,which sometimes make no différence
i mean mechanical
Buuurn!
It's probably the easiest ability in the game to dodge.
When bsj screwed up his spells mechanically "just tryna scare him away" 😂😂😂😂
zoning them out.
He said that he if he fucks up at least he doesn't want the enemy to just free farm.
It proves that even a 9k player is not mechanically God. It's the decisions what sets them apart. Use brain more know why you're doing every single thing and know that even if you miss it still makes a better outcome than not doing it.
Dude that zoning BkB was SIIICK
Maybe the best stream I have ever seen. Explained almost every single move he made. So informative and helpful
Well, i usually don't post commentary but after reading the other comment, i feel like i have to :
Thanks a lot BSJ for this video ! It's really helpfull. I'm trying so hard to understand and apply your advices, but it's way better with this game as an example ! :)
So, even if indeed this video is a "Smurfing game", thank you for making it ! It will be a good tool to analyse.
I was like when did his gf pop up..?? 😂 Had no idea until I heard a female voice😋was so immersed in his coaching . Thanks BSJ ..loved it 👍👍💯
same bruh, i had to rewind just to try and see when did she show up XD
@@Gabriel73971 and she was calling the shots, then rubbed his head. what a girl. good for him!
This is literally the best guide for beginners, his teammates were decent, and thats being generous.... BSJ please do more of this in every position
I'm pretty sure one match of ranked smurfing is enough
He's already getting wayy too much backlash from people for just this one game so it's better to learn what we can from this game and then apply his higher MMR fundamentals in our matches because as he said - the same fundementals work in our MMR too
I have watched this like 5 times in the past years there is so much new things that clicks everytime I see it. It's really good content.
May be the best video you've ever created! Incredible!
Would love one of these from support perspective!
Yup!
I can make one for you when I get a pc recorder in 2 months
@@KidTrigger Cant use inbuilt xbox screen recorder?
@@sriharshab6516 no my graphics card is very weak for recording on my pc
@@KidTrigger you know you can record with cpu? Or use NVENC if you have an Nvidia card that's not 7 years old
I usually only make it through a few minutes of your full length games that you post here on TH-cam, but I couldn't look away from this one.
This is great content. I feel like this one game alone truly illustrates the absence of a "trench".
This is very enlightening BSJ. I also appreciate that you even mechanically played like a 2k for us (missing abilities and shit all the time lol jkjkjk) but really good video I appreciate it.
Dude, this video is brilliant. I love how dry and subtly pissed off he is.
Lets gooo!!! was waiting for this for a long time
I got called a smurf on my 1.7k game because I followed the concepts you've been emphasizing BSJ. Don't care whatever your team is doing, just push waves. And I was also a Mars on that game. Thank you very much.
Enjoyed this a lot BSJ. More of this easy to follow with live in game thought processes vs lower brackets opponents. Helps a ton. Thanks BSJ!!!
What a masterclass by BSJ just elegant gameplay !!!
“Just keep pushing the wave” BSJ giving me serious Bob Ross vibes
That Luna is that guy in your group who says "Good job guys, we did it" when he hasn't contributed to the group project.
Just a joke, he is prob learning, we all do
The one thing he did was harass alot.
I've seen way worse sup position 4.
@@dudeistpreist5721 The so called harass is useless... Lucent beam is not a harassing spell... And he is moreover useless... Coz he soaked the XP... If void was a good player... They would have killed mars, during the XP gap, with help of witch doctor...
@@sakthlaunda2323 harass wasn't useless the witch doctor bought wand instead of regen and then the void couldnt even start to think about trading with the mars
if both sides are equally good the lane can go either way, it entirely depends on fuck ups, blocking camps and pulling waves
Excellent performance mr banana. Once again you show that people are archons cuz they deserve to be archons. Once you get rid of that mentality, you’ll start to gain mmr.
You say that. Personally i totally know i play like an archon and i dont mind it. Sure i'd love to climb, but at the same time i just play for fun.
@@DJTimeLock that’s the first step. You got it right. But if u don’t want to go more in depth that’s totally fine.
Really education, honestly had so many applicable takeaways for my own games. Thanks, BSJ!
As a 2k support I can confirm that we're all emotionally invested.
Hey, great video. Lots to learn. It would also be really helpful if you could mention a few tips from the enemy’s prospective too, like what should they be doing in response to you. Grow example if you’re pulling the lane and you’re solo, because you’re pos 4 is not there, what should the safe lane do. Or if you’re cutting the waves or sth.
Would be really helpful to know and learn.
Keep it up!!
I know smurfing is bad, but please do more of these!
I like how besides doing the right thing, the execution was more often than not on point with low mmr bracket xd
This makes the video more valuable than doing everything perfectly in a non replicable way
I see a lot of comments like " In my game X happened and that wouldn't work in my game" I think the point Is that choosing a lane pushing hero, farming well, and constantly re-evaluating the situation leads to wins. Not ever game Is winnable, but I'm confident out of 100 games bsj would probably win 85 in this bracket.
super helpful guide! I am just getting back into dota after quitting 5 years ago, watching this helped me both understand mars and the game better.
BSJ, youve made so many videos all of which have improved my dota 2 experience and play style, but this video was without a doubt the best and most clear explanation of what needs to be done when why and how. Thank you.
ty BSJ, I watch a lot of your videos but for some reason I am just not confident enough to play ranked matches with all the smurf accounts out there and it seems a bit intimidating. that being said very educational and well narrated. cheerss and keep up the great work you've been doing.
Been waiting for a video like this. Cheers bsj 👍
I rarely comment on videos, and since Mars is one of my favourite heroes with 90% win rate, I decided to comment on this one. I completely agree with you talking all the game, especially in the beginning of the video about scenarios when (not) to pick him. I have no clue why 140 people disliked this video... Or anytime you get a dislike. They are nuts. Maybe when you popped bkb right when you got it but shit happens and we all did that :))) Like I wanna tell my team, so I ping the item and suddenly whoops :)) But seriously, all the coaching, education, smurfing or playing with Arturo or Sumail, Qojqva series, literally anything with you Brian, top Dota content on TH-cam hands down.
Make this a series @BSJ, videos like these are so helpful to the low tier players who are trying to improve.
Great video bsj. This is rly how a 2k game looks and not a stomp or sth. This was very helpful and i hope u make more guides like this
18:34 you can make those late pulls as the creeps walk very far and if you just walked into the trees to meet the upper part of creep wave it aggros 100% of the time. They will see the neutral creeps hit u while in the trees.
lol BSJ. We need more of this. please please please please pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Thanks man. Just improved with mars by watching this. 2 wins in a row and 1x MVP
You should make this a video series where you would play low MMR bracket once a week or something.
I feel like many of your viewers have low mmr and it would benefit us a lot to see these commented games.
Not only cores though, rotate positions for every video, should be awesome.
I tried ur juggrnaut guide it work well for me.I am at 10 streak on jug.
I skipped the intro to get into the meat of the game. Started the vid at 33:35. 5 seconds into watching and truly BSJ doesn't disappoint.
hey bsj, loved the video man. Will love to see such videos for pos 1 and 2 in the future!
This was unbelievably helpful, thx bsj!
Can I just say, 2 minutes into this video, I love the amount of cockiness that you display in speaking to the viewer!
I love seeing BSJ's intense ass face and thoughtful summary of what is going to be talked about with a Spongebob portrait in the background lol
Best dota 2 channel out there without a doubt. Gotta love BSJ
This is so good. On the second viewing now to really absorb it. I will get to 1000MMR by christmas!
I really like how you made this experimental game very educational and not be like other smurfs who just stomp people, keepin' it just like the usual, very understandable content. By watching your videos I was able to get from legend 3 to ancient 1. Very informative, love your vids! I've learned alot. I hope you would do another experimental game like this but as a support. That'd be really great! Thank You BSJ!
@BSJ dude this is completely changing my mindset on playing the game. I’m 2.7k and this is incredibly helpful. Thank you man. I’ll report back when I cross 3k.
This whole intro is intense af. I feel like I am watching an intro to a spy movie. Getting my orders in.
Alternative title: BSJ (totally not) flexing on 2K scrubs.
As usual, awesome content and guide/s! Looking at BSJ how he played Mars, he doesn't stay in the woods for so long which can be seen in most typical low mmr bracket as an "OFFLANER". It only shows that when you play with your team and does a decent amount of pressure in lane you can turn the tides. Thanks man!
Appreciate the lesson. Very helpful video, thanks. Looking forward to more of this videos.
I would love to see this for a few different types of heros... Carrys, supports etc
Another S tier video. Thank you, dude.
stop staring into my 2k baby soul, so close to the camera in the intro
learned alot from this guy.... very very solid laning phase. which is what i always lack of. Because of your teaching, i have improved my game tremendously.
Remember guys, with a hero like Mars who has mana issues, you always gotta be topped up 33:40 👍 But seriously, thanks for knowledge. BSJ and his crew are doing god's work (smurfing lol). Keep up the good job!
BSJ, please don't listen to all the ignorant comments that say "Wah wah you are smurfing so you must be a bad person, you are ruining games and killing Dota" because for me, this is great content and I really appreciate you taking your time to make this. More power!
This was really educational! Awesome, ty
WE need more. So good!
I feel like BSJ was roleplaying as a 3k player this game too, so many hilarious mistakes!
38:45
Willow : im probably safe going up this hg since its my side of the map.
BSJ : omaewa mou shindeiru
early rotations from offlane to mid lane is actually really gud
Thank you alot for a content like this would love to see videos like these more often from mid and carry role maybe if possible!
That luna is my dream support at 2k compared to the average one who is standing in creep wave randomly attacking creeps and fking up agro. doesn't take away from bsjs points
1. Queuing for all roles...whatever matchmaking selects for me.
2. Queuing for specific role (the one that i enjoy and think i am good at)
Does either of above statement matter for increasing chances of good match ups...?
Love the luna 27:45 “game is hard” lmao
directional move baby 19:57 . thanks bsj would love to see more live vids like this with your commentary but from mid?
i like when bsj stares into my soul
Damn BSJ that intro was intense
*Luna starts with boots*
"I've been told that for the full experience I should play with a dog-ass support so that's what we'll do"
Not a big fan of dota due to my suckage of it, watching you is really quite enjoyable. Thank you for the vids, keep em up mate!!!
Bsj the only guy to smurf on archon and not get suspicious.
good video bsj, I still always feel critical with this kind of smurfing in a low elo thing.
The video is really informative and I think most people get your point and it does seem all logical and easy.
On the other side you are still a mechanical superior player to them all, so naturally you will activate bkb and dodge some spells when other poeple actually wouldnt.
Last fight mid t3, you pinned mars so quick I had to rewatch the scene, and dodged the chrono kind of. Before sven could bkb. ofc the whole video worked towards this point of going Highground and thus you should be probably ahead and still win the fight, but not everyone has that quick movement and dicision making.
He literally missed spears all the time, mechanical slills are good but ddidnt contribute much this game... The reason he had so strong impact is because every single decision he made he did for a conscious reason. Low rank players tend to just walk around and do things mecanicaly in game, not understanding WHY they are doing it. And offcourse he is better at quick movement and decision making, he is a 9k player, which is why he is doing this videos, to explain to everyone the reasons behind every action.
BSJ, I hope you can always stay as humble in everything you'll do, as you are while being a Dota 2 legend.
I would love to see one of these games for every position.This was very informative!
great information, would like to see more content like this
This was incredibly helpful!
Missing abilities on purpose so the game doesn't mark you as a smurf. Well played, sir!
BSJ is gracious enough to pop a bad BKB since he's cosplaying 2k mmr. It's for us
was thinking about doing a series like this. called *inside the mind of a smurf* or how to solo-carry. hope to enjoy to video! 3 mins in
more like "how to spot the smurfs in 2k who are actually keeping you down, not your idiot teammates"
This gameplay is so clean
bsj is looking into my soul, its unnerving
As a 2k witch doctor spammer, the enemy WD performance burns my eyes. He pulled, and thats nice, and he casts his spells, nice too. Even was aware his void could survive 1v1 against a mars, so being absent from lane a lot was okay so void could get a level advantage.
But at no point did he take advantage of being a 600 range character and simply right click the enemy. BSJ was allowed to control the lane because WD simply wasnt landing free right clicks. BSJ even demonstrates all the times he can land free right clicks, and wins the lane because of it.
Please, if you're a pos5, watch this and see what the off laner is allowed to do when you dont right click them.
Same observation as well. Which was the reason BSJ never tries to get 3rd skill even once in laning phase.
If u are a 2k u have no rights to criticize another 2k, you probably make just as many mistakes.
@@johnklaus9111 i am talking about before BSJ was even level 5. WD has really good base damage at even level 1. He could have forced a mars out of lane at level 1-4. BSJ had such a comfy lane because he was basically 1v1 against a faceless void.
Mind you, the luna was also useless, so void also was able to do lots of farming too.
@@quad_buck quite the opposite. The entire point of this video is that bsj's followers tell him he does not have valid advice for low mmr players because he doesn't play in low mmr.
Since I do play in 2k, I do get to comment on improper play in the 2k bracket, and so can bsj because we have a video now showing it. I am only 2k because I dont play much. Reaching a higher rank is nothing more than slowly grinding out games.
@@sleipnir2034 If u are truly better then the bracket u are in you would get out of there in no time, i literally reached immortal 3 months ago by playing once every 2-3 days with a 70%+ winrate
BSJ this is god tier content, please do something like 3k for mid 4k for carry or etc. but we definetly need more for each core at least
Great content bro. Thanks!!!
herald player here
ngl i tuned u out looking at the jellyfishing picture in the background
anyways good video 10/10
This is very insightful and helpful video 😃
Best dota content ever. These videos are masterpieces!!
This channel us the ultimate dota 2 channel to sub
Nice game..... so what do u do when the other 2 lanes fed so hard the enemy is at your tier 3 at 25 min ????? cuz thats what 70% of my games is like
The things is if you win your lane. Even the threat of walking into another lane as a act of dominance to turn the lane around will help them even if you dont execute the gank and just end up tping back.
Very instructive video!