@@sentientartificialintelligence @Dimas Arestu Noticed it in game, then tested it in demo, it didn't work. Now I retested it and it works(( Bet it never were in patch notes either. Might become relevant again at some point.
It was a jebait. Blink is perfect on cm there. Allows him to play aggressive in fights without dying, as well as push dead lanes without dying. He was just in such a relaxed mode that I think he forgot to explain it.
I get so caught up and upset trying to explain myself to my teammates pinging me all the time on support... Then I saw BSJ get the same treatment. Feels good, man
Just premute teammates before every literally 1 in 10 thousand games you’ll get people communicating to actually win all the other games people only communicate to flame.
heres a tip. if youre confident that what youre doing is right, then dont give a fuck. I just go "why are you pinging me lol" in my mind. Unless they have a smart arguement as to why they pinged you then by all means reply
He can only do this because it's a 1k game. Try to do this in a 3k game, and you'll soak up your carry's farm, won't be there for the team fights your team will lose, and you'll likely just feed if you show up as a pos5 on 3 waves. You won't get far with the "fuck whatever my team is doing" mentality as a support player. You gotta win the carry's lane then follow whatever the playmaker (mid or offlane) is doing.
@@matijatrajkovic6496 he literally explains all that in the video. To paraphrase, "My carry's aren't farming lanes, so I'll apply the map pressure and take the farm they're not."
16:00. If pa wants to keep feeding that's his prerogative. That's what I needed to hear! I'm tired of getting flamed by cores when i give them a lead and they throw it away. I needed justification that them throwing was not on me. Thanks BSJ.
That was his fault you cant give the core a head start then abandon him and expect him to be okay you stay with him let him extend the lead PA would obviously lose against 1 vs 2 early game against axe and qop he shouldnt of left him
What's really nice is that in this video, BSJ isn't styling on opponents. He's not doing things that require being at a 9K mmr level to understand and to do. But what he's doing is enough to win people most games at that bracket. So yeah, very cool, as usual.
He couldn't, "carry the lane as a support" at his own MMR though? Would it be cool if I show up at a primary school recess to play some street basketball? "I'll play defensively and narrate because these guys are a much lower MMR than me. See how this kid is going shoot? Watch as I stuff the ball right into this 4'10" prepubescent chode's face? So he's crying now, I just have to set up pick on his buddy." "DOUBLE KILL!" "Pass the ball to my carry. And that's how play to win defensive basketball. You just have to play confidently and properly. Show these kids who their father is by literally fucking their moms."
@@zachb8012 you know you're purposely confusing teaching with bullying somehow, for some bizarre reason, but there's no reason to be so dishonest man it literally achieves nothing to do that
@@mpbarry46 very nicely said, there is a problem with the community: people become better and better and lose their patience with new players. I really think they should include these tutorials in the game👌
@@marcianmihai4802 yeah, they really should, the reason why dota's player base is lowering, is exacly that. And off course the matchmaking system, about a weak ago i played an unranked game, and there was this totally new player, who didn't know how to buy items even. Why did this new player end up in a game where people have 2 years of experience? New players come to learn the game, all of a sudden there are 4 people constantly yelling and pinging and being toxic to him. Off course he's never coming back😕
Would support your comment. Still things are not so easy in low Elo. Most of the things he teaches still require your team not being overrun after 25 min.
This is the best episode of the series so far. It shows what you can do right, but it also illustrates the problems you might run into. In 1k you will get flamed if you farm like that - and when you don't win the game you will be reported, a lot. I guess many people will not dare to play this way as a pos 5 for that reason alone. However, I am looking differently at the game now, in a very intriguing way. Looking forward to a pos 4 video and how that might differ from pos 5.
What I learned from this was kinda real obvious but I've been trying to plant this in my mind whenever I play. This was a great reinforcement for that mentality. If your team is feeding and you help them, you are also feeding. Just do what you can and make the best out of it all.
Its insane how far you can get with just pushing waves. Im amazed that in my 6k bracket some people still dont get these fundamental concepts of the game. Even in 6k I've been flamed for taking farm and pushing waves.
same, lately i started to notice a lot of lanes arent being pushed properly and yesterday i got a carry self proclammed pro player that kept spam ping to get "map control" by getting t1 bot (we were on radiant) i just told him that the secret shop is open to both teams
yes since 6.82's new networth mechanics all the way up to this day this rinse&repeat map approach is correct and extremely repetitive every single game and yet: even top players still often fail at it, which is really amazing as you say, actually insane
I don't know how i've missed these series, but i'm loving em. So far this is the best educational dota content on youtube. Thank you sir ! p.s looking forward to more support content
These vids have helped me so much. And the eri series is pure gold too. It's amazing how little people prioritize pushing lanes. Push lanes to win games
im one of those people who believed that supports cant win a game and after watching this i cant tell you how much aww struck i am to see how easily you pulled that off without doing anything crazy. Hats off to you. I learned a lot from this thank you.
though i know most of the things you mention in your videos, i love how you present them and enjoy watching them. this is very good for the dota community and especially for newcomers
After watching this video I instantly got Match MVP as CM P5 I’ve always done terrible as hard support before watching your POS4 and POS5 videos, this really helped a lot
BSJ, I never learned so much dota from a single video. My entire understanding of dota changed. Every moment of a game. I feel I own you after this one. I had to come back to comment this. I'll have to watch it again in the future for sure.
BSJ - you are my hero! So, this has just happened. I played CM and had similar items and did similar things. I was lucky to have PA on my lane, lol (solo queue). Two ppl in the same group on my team flamed me, first for picking CM in a team with Lich (it is herald level btw), second for play style?... they called me some choice words until my PA who I think I supported reasonably well (lots of salve and solo exp) told them to shut it. So long story short we won (PA was good) and I got MVP. Happened just now. Thank you BSJ.
Watching this vid and that ogre vid 3 times a day, then apply it in one or two pub games. Then reflect my mistakes and the thing that I should do. For now, there are things I forgot during game. Thats why I am watching these videos 2 to 3 times a day. Thank you so much BSJ! Please notice my comment. More power 🤘
These videos are dope, man. I've come back to DOTA 2 after years and years, having played DOTA 1 for close to a decade. Awesome details, awesome insights as you expound on your thinking processes. Love it!
I look a lot of replays but THIS kind of video IS exactly what i was looking for. Great material for people who aim to rank up and improve as support. Also gives a lot of dota goals understanding
I tried to play jakiro and im focusing the clearing the waves, pushing the creeps, and defending the tower at any cost so its really helpful for me GJ BSJ Keep it up!
Thank you for top tier content. Been watching so many dota 2 supports guide but as of now yours is the one that really drills the understanding to me. Hope can get coached by BSJ in the future hehe
After watching these videos, it actually bothers me when i see lanes not pushed.Its just stuck in my head now im always looking at the map seeing where i could be to push waves, or just where i can be that gives me more xp without just draining xp from the carry. Really opened my eyes with these videos and how to just generally play better.
@@sammg95 imagine being an AM with only bf, and they asked me to join every fight and defend every tower, so the pos 3 and supports can farm on the jungle freely
@@itsmevhintz5435 I mainly go tree jakiro and SHadow shaman when supporting cause wave clear and good lockdown and slows so even if I die so does the creep wave and they need to waste time and resources to do so. People should expect a hard carry to be able to do much till 20-30mins Sven and Jugg I see as the cheapest hard carries at the moment in terms of time from farming to killing
@@sammg95 increase your map awareness and you'll be great. For my skills it's 60-70% using these method for winning. I applied on both support and carry. Will probably lose if multiple hero counter me
Tried Jakiro support in my 3k game and focused solely on pushing open lanes. Boy was I surprised at how much farm I could get just by doing this one thing. Ended up with the highest CS and second in farm with a BF PA and Luna in the game. This is just crazy!
I'm learning and repeating the stuff you talk about in my low MMR games. I've been calling out the random crap they do, but after listening to what you're saying, I just shouldn't care especially if there is a wave to push. I had a couple games yesterday where we were clearly at the disadvantage, loosing team fights, and my team wants to go pressure uphill with no vision, and I'm like WTF are you doing? OR they see 1 enemy hero, and it's like a pack of wolves going after a rabbit. Really, I should call it "Up" with the squirrels.. As soon as they see one they totally deviate what they are doing to chase that dang squirrel... Drives me up the wall!
Super enjoyable vid bsj, loved it because you were calm like a snake bathing in the sun. Its so much better to learn than your rants (for me). Continue that positive teaching, very nice stuff.
I was waiting for such a video for so long. I am just learning dota. My friends need a 5th player, so obviously I will be pos 5. This is a godsent video. Thank you BSJ, keep it up!
What I've observed to BSJ's online lessons is that he moves so swiftly, very efficient and he catch on quick just like every second he's been actively moving like 'do something, not just watch what would happen and standing there' and he really does that, something that will change the entirety of his team gameplay. Btw, I've learning a lot of tips from him how to farm very efficiently, my gameplay in this meta improved a lot from old meta years ago.
This is extremly Low mmr. I wish he would do this in around 2k bracket. The quality of games in 2k are so much higher than in 1k. Dont get me wrong. This content is fucking awsome but i think many players cant get this done in 2k or 3k. But as u said in the Jakiro Rep analysis...You will win most likely 70%. I hope these 70% will kick in very soon in my games since by now. Pushing is fun, but did not win me games :D
I beg to differ. Ive been applying these concepts since 1.6k mmr now i am 2.8k in around a month at 4-6 games average a day. Been playing mostly 5, sometimes 1 3 or 4. I play the other roles to better myself as a 5. Learning what ticks the enemy 5 so I can avoid it when I play as 5.
For me the concept actually is very valuable even up to the 5k+ bracket, the biggest difference from my perspective is that people move based on timings and tend to group together most of the time. I play on SEA server btw where people don't give a damn xD, I gained around 800 mmr just from actively thinking about BSJ's tips during the game and I feel that I got a better understanding of the game flow now compared to before (or i was really just a bad player before)
Subbed. I'm a noob and I super appreciate these kind of contents that really helps a lot of players (whether they admit it or not). Not just showing the play but also explaining the shit you're doing.
@@OneSek1 Even BSJ has said himself that there is a small percentage of games that are just unwinnable and I’d be curious to see one and his analysis. I’m sure at a low bracket it wouldn’t have much to do with him.
Trench support player hear, thanks for the video. Really insightful. I've been avoiding DotA for a few weeks now, but this vid makes me wanna play again. 👍 I let the ads play on this one to support the content
I'd like to see a supp video in the 4k bracket... there isnt so much space on the map as in a 1k game.. and i dont think you can go that build in 4k :D
besides your mechanical ability and understanding of the game, the one thing i see differ from my game is your ability to not tilt. Well played good sir.
So nice to watch, you play so effortlessly. It is nice that u are very critical of urself. You immediately realised whenever you made a mistake like not checking enemy's items (forcestaff/dust) and forgetting to place a lane ward before pushing when no enemy was showing. 33:45 Would like to see u playing in a higher mmr bracket. I feel like the viewers are more around 4k bracket.
I've been struggling in my 4-5k bracket always thinking what to give to my cores and sacrificing too much on my own net worth. Your explanation is so straight forward and entertaining. Do all your "to-do" list apply to all brackets? I was wondering if u could do these videos in diff mmr ranges?
Hey Sir BSJ I'm from Philippines I Improve so much by watching on your videos from game leap to your youtube channel :) I improve a lot from Crusader Rank now iam Ancient 3 and still playing.. I hope i achieve Divine Rank or Immortal Rank Soon.... Just Want to thank you for everything. Thanks man! Hope you make more content about support role because I'm always Playing Position 4 / Position 5. Really Appreciate it Sir
In SEA 3k bracket. A good supp will do like bsj did on laning stage, minus the sharing salve, and usually comes with bad positioning so he ended up dying while try to harass. A bad supp? Pudge pos 5, afk waiting to hook>failed>take farm using rot>dead>leaving lane or repeat.
that kind of pudges is part of the game already still happens at 6.5k+, but these are the only-core-players trying to get their 4 queue role games or that is what i want to think lol
@@Antido0 in SEA too? I mean since he playing core shouldn't he knows better that kind of play is so sh*t. I play core mostly, so when I play support I know better what my core usually need and wants.
it is on USE where i play and find that people, i can say that this happens on all southamerican servers too it is very common to meet one of this kind every day if you play many matches since their support pool is very small i guess they panic and pick whatever looks easy for them or they just troll the game to end faster and get their 4 role queue
BSJ: dont waste your resource for things arent supposed to be your job also BSJ: gonna buy 2 more salves for my PA here my 2k brain: wait what keep up the good work, man love ur vids
In higher brackets the pos 5 always carries at least 1 salve early game and it's usually for the carry and not themselves, so it's kind of a pos 5 job to do so. This due to the fact that if you win the "regen fight" without your carry spending more gold on it (sometimes because the lane goes poorly and he just bought another necessary item to sustain, sometimes he messed up his item build and you need to aid to recover, anyways), the difference of farm between your carry and the enemies pos 3&4 will increase, allowing him to snowball, in this case you could argue the 2 more salves were actually "for him", because without them, the PA would have gotten killed or zoned, making the 2 level difference to never exist, forcing BSJ to stay in lane more time; even tho the PA actually died with the 2 level difference, you usually don't let your carry alone 1v2 when the other 2 are the same level (only on really specific scenarios). So in order for him to get his own space/freedom, this was a good/necessary call.
Pa wants regen and would buy more salves if they were free. Dk didn't seem to care about the ward which is free. If you force him to take it, he might put it somewhere, but if he doesn't care you might as well use it. I think another example of this would be don't buy meteor hammer in this game so that you can push towers, since it's DK's job to push towers. CM's job is to push creep waves, and so buying things that enable you to do that better is more efficient.
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Episode 1 (Offlane/3): th-cam.com/video/Fapljcd3L-k/w-d-xo.html
Episode 2 (Carry/1): th-cam.com/video/0Im2wRxXqSY/w-d-xo.html
Episode 3 (Hard Support/5): th-cam.com/video/-uFThCZ1D6M/w-d-xo.html
Can you make video for pos 4,how to pressure enemy carry or roaming
VERY COOL
@@ВУраев im test in demo, its work
@@sentientartificialintelligence @Dimas Arestu Noticed it in game, then tested it in demo, it didn't work. Now I retested it and it works((
Bet it never were in patch notes either. Might become relevant again at some point.
Hoping for a Zeus game in one of the next episodes
BSJ in 9k: Think VERY carefully about you item build. It might break your game
BSJ in 1k: Blink. Stylish. Nice.
Very cool
Eeuhhhh
Bery Kool
It was a jebait. Blink is perfect on cm there. Allows him to play aggressive in fights without dying, as well as push dead lanes without dying. He was just in such a relaxed mode that I think he forgot to explain it.
I get so caught up and upset trying to explain myself to my teammates pinging me all the time on support... Then I saw BSJ get the same treatment. Feels good, man
Just premute teammates before every literally 1 in 10 thousand games you’ll get people communicating to actually win all the other games people only communicate to flame.
heres a tip. if youre confident that what youre doing is right, then dont give a fuck. I just go "why are you pinging me lol" in my mind. Unless they have a smart arguement as to why they pinged you then by all means reply
You can't argue in a match. And for low bracket, winning a fight is everything. Fight loses and support does not show up = Bad support.
He can only do this because it's a 1k game. Try to do this in a 3k game, and you'll soak up your carry's farm, won't be there for the team fights your team will lose, and you'll likely just feed if you show up as a pos5 on 3 waves. You won't get far with the "fuck whatever my team is doing" mentality as a support player. You gotta win the carry's lane then follow whatever the playmaker (mid or offlane) is doing.
@@matijatrajkovic6496 he literally explains all that in the video. To paraphrase, "My carry's aren't farming lanes, so I'll apply the map pressure and take the farm they're not."
*Something positive happens*
Very cool
*Something negative happens*
Very cool
very cool
Keep it PMA Keep it BSJ
16:00. If pa wants to keep feeding that's his prerogative. That's what I needed to hear! I'm tired of getting flamed by cores when i give them a lead and they throw it away. I needed justification that them throwing was not on me. Thanks BSJ.
Absolutely, Everytime you core get caught, its the pos 5 fault, now as 5s we know what are we doing. Its like set you free.
Y do u leave the lane?!? HElp! Fck cm!
u get 100 pings within 1 second no matter if you have dont triple kill at the same time with your team in the other part of the map lol
how old are u bro? u might beat me for being the oldest player in dota
That was his fault you cant give the core a head start then abandon him and expect him to be okay you stay with him let him extend the lead PA would obviously lose against 1 vs 2 early game against axe and qop he shouldnt of left him
me: my GF cheated on me and my life is falling apart
BSJ: very cool
BSJ: There's a creep wave at your mid tower, push mid
@@fjhowes1 he just speaks diffrent language at this point.
I always remember Dani's "Wow that was really cool!" th-cam.com/video/WF5-hUMV02E/w-d-xo.html They should get together!
whahahahahahahahahahahahahah
What's really nice is that in this video, BSJ isn't styling on opponents. He's not doing things that require being at a 9K mmr level to understand and to do. But what he's doing is enough to win people most games at that bracket. So yeah, very cool, as usual.
He couldn't, "carry the lane as a support" at his own MMR though? Would it be cool if I show up at a primary school recess to play some street basketball? "I'll play defensively and narrate because these guys are a much lower MMR than me. See how this kid is going shoot? Watch as I stuff the ball right into this 4'10" prepubescent chode's face? So he's crying now, I just have to set up pick on his buddy."
"DOUBLE KILL!"
"Pass the ball to my carry. And that's how play to win defensive basketball. You just have to play confidently and properly. Show these kids who their father is by literally fucking their moms."
@@zachb8012 Bad comparison, he wasn't playing against kids.
@@zachb8012 The whole point of this is that people believe that applying these concepts doesn't work at lower levels. You get that, don't you?
@@zachb8012 you know you're purposely confusing teaching with bullying somehow, for some bizarre reason, but there's no reason to be so dishonest man it literally achieves nothing to do that
very cool
very. cool.
@@bananaslamjamma A wild HattonGames appeared.
omg its you! new videos when?
@@Grimpeh grimpehhh!
This man is so good at explaining and what i really enjoy is his confidence about the info he’s providing. Keep up the good work man 👌
@@mpbarry46 very nicely said, there is a problem with the community: people become better and better and lose their patience with new players. I really think they should include these tutorials in the game👌
@@marcianmihai4802 yeah, they really should, the reason why dota's player base is lowering, is exacly that. And off course the matchmaking system, about a weak ago i played an unranked game, and there was this totally new player, who didn't know how to buy items even. Why did this new player end up in a game where people have 2 years of experience? New players come to learn the game, all of a sudden there are 4 people constantly yelling and pinging and being toxic to him. Off course he's never coming back😕
Would support your comment. Still things are not so easy in low Elo. Most of the things he teaches still require your team not being overrun after 25 min.
This is the best episode of the series so far. It shows what you can do right, but it also illustrates the problems you might run into. In 1k you will get flamed if you farm like that - and when you don't win the game you will be reported, a lot. I guess many people will not dare to play this way as a pos 5 for that reason alone.
However, I am looking differently at the game now, in a very intriguing way. Looking forward to a pos 4 video and how that might differ from pos 5.
Yesss pls sup 4
I think what he is playing right now i closer to pos4...but only the pos5 starting tho...t
to be fair he does get flamed mid game
from the first time I started watching contents from BSJ upto now I've already gained +700 mmr thank you sir.
THAT DK TPED WHEN A CATAPULT WAS ON THE TOWER WITH FULL CREEP WAVE!!!! CLASSIC 1K
i really needed to hear this: "you're only supposed to worry about YOUR job"
99% of players need to hear that. Look at the fucking kids in his game for crying out loud.
Thank you! Your “educational smurf” series is by far the best educational Dota content on TH-cam.
Dude, why has it taken me this many years to find your videos. You make the game so much more accessible and less chaotic
35:19 “So, my PA will get there, eventually. That’s the cool part”
So relatable
Is he(disconnected Bloodseeker) coming back?
11:52 BSJ: "let me call him up real quick, I'll let you guys know"
"maiden why are you farming?"
*Pushing
@@xenocide1307 well at the time he was clearing a jungle camp so i'd say farming haha
That means pa wasn't nub he was checking on support . .
Best answer to this would be "because you aren't " no, actually best answer is silence
What I learned from this was kinda real obvious but I've been trying to plant this in my mind whenever I play. This was a great reinforcement for that mentality. If your team is feeding and you help them, you are also feeding. Just do what you can and make the best out of it all.
I love this content. Still in guardian myself, but hopefully not for long. Thanks BSJ!
What rank are you now?
@@halfiem2510 haha lol, thanks for pointing this out. 😂 In 10 months I only jumped to crusader 3. It takes time to climb the ladder I guess.
I'm learning so much from your vids I went from Herald 3 to guardian 2 in a week.
I went from herald 1- herald 2
Its insane how far you can get with just pushing waves. Im amazed that in my 6k bracket some people still dont get these fundamental concepts of the game. Even in 6k I've been flamed for taking farm and pushing waves.
same, lately i started to notice a lot of lanes arent being pushed properly and yesterday i got a carry self proclammed pro player that kept spam ping to get "map control" by getting t1 bot (we were on radiant) i just told him that the secret shop is open to both teams
@@mpbarry46 top supports dont need to push lanes cause the cores do that. Its different it low mmr games, nobody pushes so you do itm
yes since 6.82's new networth mechanics all the way up to this day this rinse&repeat map approach is correct and extremely repetitive every single game and yet: even top players still often fail at it, which is really amazing as you say, actually insane
well it depends, if your core wants to push a lane but you steal it under their nose then its justifiable flame, if noone is there and you push its ok
I've seen this at least five times and it just doesn't stop being helpful.
BSJ: Playing CM
Everything: Very cool
bsj maximizing his aura because he knows noobs love to spam their spells deserves a nobel peace prize
I don't know how i've missed these series, but i'm loving em. So far this is the best educational dota content on youtube.
Thank you sir !
p.s looking forward to more support content
This is hands down the most helpful Dota video I've ever watched.
Really changed the way I see supporting in this game used to hate this role but now it seems very cool :D
These vids have helped me so much. And the eri series is pure gold too. It's amazing how little people prioritize pushing lanes. Push lanes to win games
Really leaning in on the roleplaying with the 'very cools' lol
very cool!
Ive learn so much bsj since i watch your video my mmr and gameplay keep increase and improving thank you
Been waiting for this one!
im one of those people who believed that supports cant win a game and after watching this i cant tell you how much aww struck i am to see how easily you pulled that off without doing anything crazy. Hats off to you. I learned a lot from this thank you.
though i know most of the things you mention in your videos, i love how you present them and enjoy watching them. this is very good for the dota community and especially for newcomers
This was the vid/series that got me into watching your channel!! It remains the channel I show to everyone else who wants to get better at DOTA
After watching this video I instantly got Match MVP as CM P5
I’ve always done terrible as hard support before watching your POS4 and POS5 videos, this really helped a lot
BSJ, I never learned so much dota from a single video. My entire understanding of dota changed. Every moment of a game. I feel I own you after this one. I had to come back to comment this. I'll have to watch it again in the future for sure.
this is super helpful. My support has defo improved since watching the jakiro one. This one filled in the gaps. Thanks dude
BSJ - you are my hero! So, this has just happened. I played CM and had similar items and did similar things. I was lucky to have PA on my lane, lol (solo queue). Two ppl in the same group on my team flamed me, first for picking CM in a team with Lich (it is herald level btw), second for play style?... they called me some choice words until my PA who I think I supported reasonably well (lots of salve and solo exp) told them to shut it. So long story short we won (PA was good) and I got MVP. Happened just now. Thank you BSJ.
Watching this vid and that ogre vid 3 times a day, then apply it in one or two pub games. Then reflect my mistakes and the thing that I should do. For now, there are things I forgot during game. Thats why I am watching these videos 2 to 3 times a day. Thank you so much BSJ! Please notice my comment. More power 🤘
this video contain all you need to do for support or basic support i think + Positive Mental Attitude. great job BSJ very cool
accidentally stumble into this. I like it. pushing wave as supp. Immediately subscribe for support. Thank you BSJ
I am a 6k position 5 player. I have learned alot from this video. Thank you Sir
These videos are dope, man. I've come back to DOTA 2 after years and years, having played DOTA 1 for close to a decade. Awesome details, awesome insights as you expound on your thinking processes. Love it!
notice how his team never once said wp or good job to him or the other support. Only ever talking to him when they question his play style.
That's because the Dota 2 community is trash
Or because people are too busy doing their own roles work to type, time is gold, gold is winning
@@iCrimzon but when it comes to quetioning bsj they apparently have time?
This series really helped me a lot, got 300 MMR and ranked up to Archon just by focusing more on pushing the waves. Thx BSJ
Tried the same strategie after watching ur match. Snowballed! thnks man
My class was canceled, now I get to learn something important.
I look a lot of replays but THIS kind of video IS exactly what i was looking for. Great material for people who aim to rank up and improve as support. Also gives a lot of dota goals understanding
Me watching this: ahh yes I can apply this to my low bracket
Me in game: I remember nothing.
I have such bad tunnel vision
I tried to play jakiro and im focusing the clearing the waves, pushing the creeps, and defending the tower at any cost so its really helpful for me GJ BSJ Keep it up!
Thank you for top tier content. Been watching so many dota 2 supports guide but as of now yours is the one that really drills the understanding to me. Hope can get coached by BSJ in the future hehe
After watching these videos, it actually bothers me when i see lanes not pushed.Its just stuck in my head now im always looking at the map seeing where i could be to push waves, or just where i can be that gives me more xp without just draining xp from the carry. Really opened my eyes with these videos and how to just generally play better.
And while you do that the enemy are super pissed cause they cant take objectives even after they win some fights.
Meanwhile I now get flamed for not being in every fight on the map for pushing out lanes. Lmao.
@@sammg95 imagine being an AM with only bf, and they asked me to join every fight and defend every tower, so the pos 3 and supports can farm on the jungle freely
@@itsmevhintz5435 I mainly go tree jakiro and SHadow shaman when supporting cause wave clear and good lockdown and slows so even if I die so does the creep wave and they need to waste time and resources to do so.
People should expect a hard carry to be able to do much till 20-30mins
Sven and Jugg I see as the cheapest hard carries at the moment in terms of time from farming to killing
@@sammg95 increase your map awareness and you'll be great. For my skills it's 60-70% using these method for winning. I applied on both support and carry. Will probably lose if multiple hero counter me
32:50 Sad thing is, that DK probably thought BSJ is ironic tipping because he didn't join the fight.
Tried Jakiro support in my 3k game and focused solely on pushing open lanes. Boy was I surprised at how much farm I could get just by doing this one thing. Ended up with the highest CS and second in farm with a BF PA and Luna in the game. This is just crazy!
I'm learning and repeating the stuff you talk about in my low MMR games. I've been calling out the random crap they do, but after listening to what you're saying, I just shouldn't care especially if there is a wave to push. I had a couple games yesterday where we were clearly at the disadvantage, loosing team fights, and my team wants to go pressure uphill with no vision, and I'm like WTF are you doing? OR they see 1 enemy hero, and it's like a pack of wolves going after a rabbit. Really, I should call it "Up" with the squirrels.. As soon as they see one they totally deviate what they are doing to chase that dang squirrel... Drives me up the wall!
"I'm not going to teach you guys beta habits "
Super enjoyable vid bsj, loved it because you were calm like a snake bathing in the sun. Its so much better to learn than your rants (for me). Continue that positive teaching, very nice stuff.
Your smurf series is genius. The most helpfull videos overall.
Very cool, BSJ contents help me a lot, from legend to rank 3k immortal in SEA.
Watching support going carry is so satisfying.
As a support whos recently found your videos. I love these!
I was waiting for such a video for so long. I am just learning dota. My friends need a 5th player, so obviously I will be pos 5. This is a godsent video. Thank you BSJ, keep it up!
What I've observed to BSJ's online lessons is that he moves so swiftly, very efficient and he catch on quick just like every second he's been actively moving like 'do something, not just watch what would happen and standing there' and he really does that, something that will change the entirety of his team gameplay.
Btw, I've learning a lot of tips from him how to farm very efficiently, my gameplay in this meta improved a lot from old meta years ago.
I push waves better now since watching BSJ and my winrate in the trench is 72% out of my last 25 games. Thanks BSJ
Ok, I already knew this from Eri lessons. What I learnt in this video is to ignore your stupid teammates and confidently do the right thing.
Man, i had no idea how much i can control the game playing pos 5 cm. Thank you for this.
This is extremly Low mmr. I wish he would do this in around 2k bracket. The quality of games in 2k are so much higher than in 1k. Dont get me wrong. This content is fucking awsome but i think many players cant get this done in 2k or 3k.
But as u said in the Jakiro Rep analysis...You will win most likely 70%.
I hope these 70% will kick in very soon in my games since by now. Pushing is fun, but did not win me games :D
I beg to differ. Ive been applying these concepts since 1.6k mmr now i am 2.8k in around a month at 4-6 games average a day. Been playing mostly 5, sometimes 1 3 or 4. I play the other roles to better myself as a 5. Learning what ticks the enemy 5 so I can avoid it when I play as 5.
SEA server btw
i'm 3K and his jakiro vids hepls me gain MMR in 3K bracket, what your reason now? just try it before you comment
The quality of 2k games is not by any means higher than 1k games
For me the concept actually is very valuable even up to the 5k+ bracket, the biggest difference from my perspective is that people move based on timings and tend to group together most of the time. I play on SEA server btw where people don't give a damn xD, I gained around 800 mmr just from actively thinking about BSJ's tips during the game and I feel that I got a better understanding of the game flow now compared to before (or i was really just a bad player before)
Subbed. I'm a noob and I super appreciate these kind of contents that really helps a lot of players (whether they admit it or not). Not just showing the play but also explaining the shit you're doing.
I am waiting to see one where bsj loses and explains what could have been done better or what prevented them from winning.
Same
prevented 'them' from winning ? I'm not sure but if you want him to look at his teammate and tell who fucked up the most, that's the wrong mentality.
@@OneSek1 Even BSJ has said himself that there is a small percentage of games that are just unwinnable and I’d be curious to see one and his analysis. I’m sure at a low bracket it wouldn’t have much to do with him.
Yohan chill man, I’m just trying to learn here.
@@twiho He’s just the kind of guy that clearly doesn’t need to watch these videos cuz he’s so good (yet he’s here)
BSJ giving us the authentic 1k hard support gameplay LUL
Cant wait for the mid guide.
Trench support player hear, thanks for the video. Really insightful. I've been avoiding DotA for a few weeks now, but this vid makes me wanna play again. 👍 I let the ads play on this one to support the content
I need to start staring at the minimap. BSJ flicks to the minimpap every couple of seconds and that will start guiding my decision making.
BSJ PLEASE KEEP THESE VIDEOS UP. I love these
Try playing a game where you lose the draft at 2-3k . Like when they are all early game tempo heros and you have AM, PL and WK
thank you @BananaSlamJamma, because of you I have won 24 of 30 matches
thank you a lot for all your vids they really help , i just tried what u did as CM and i won super easy and helped all the lanes
I'd like to see a supp video in the 4k bracket... there isnt so much space on the map as in a 1k game.. and i dont think you can go that build in 4k :D
besides your mechanical ability and understanding of the game, the one thing i see differ from my game is your ability to not tilt. Well played good sir.
from guardian to divine 3 by watching this video on how to be a proper supp.. Very cool...
your team don't have a clue who their playing with :D Lmao everytime they ping him :D
I love how bsj doesn't even react to (most) their calls, just keep pushing xd
Besides that, look at ogre and dk talking shit about the cm and how he's playing, haha I won't point no body anymore.
@@ivancastillosanchez975 evidence that low tiers opinions are less than useless.
@@randomnobody9229 absolutely right.
@@randomnobody9229 Riight, really shows how much knowledge dota actually has to offer
11:54 "Let me call him up real quick, I'll let you guys know" =)))))
I needed this.
I constantly get pinged or flamed if I push lanes that need it or if I nuke a creep that the cores missed
So nice to watch, you play so effortlessly. It is nice that u are very critical of urself. You immediately realised whenever you made a mistake like not checking enemy's items (forcestaff/dust) and forgetting to place a lane ward before pushing when no enemy was showing.
33:45
Would like to see u playing in a higher mmr bracket. I feel like the viewers are more around 4k bracket.
Working on that 30min battle fury....very cool
I notice bsj emphasise a lot on lane push. The decisions are mainly based on that and playing around that. Very cool.
I've been struggling in my 4-5k bracket always thinking what to give to my cores and sacrificing too much on my own net worth. Your explanation is so straight forward and entertaining. Do all your "to-do" list apply to all brackets? I was wondering if u could do these videos in diff mmr ranges?
Bro don’t sacrifice for any pub teammates unless they are pro players
yes
This series has been very helpful. Thank you.
From Crusader III to Legend 1 after started watching BSJ content, pro pubs and tournaments regularly. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
I love your support videos! After watching your Jakiro video I won the next two matches as jakiro, and the same with ogre magi :D
DUDE HOW CAN I DOUBLE LIKE THIS VIDEO?
Thank you for the quality content bro, much appreciated
Hey Sir BSJ
I'm from Philippines I Improve so much by watching on your videos from game leap to your youtube channel :)
I improve a lot from Crusader Rank now iam Ancient 3 and still playing..
I hope i achieve Divine Rank or Immortal Rank Soon....
Just Want to thank you for everything.
Thanks man!
Hope you make more content about support role because I'm always Playing Position 4 / Position 5.
Really Appreciate it Sir
Hi, man I'm loving this series
I am Divine I carry player, and learning better to lane because of you teaching me how to play support. Weird isn't it?
I unsubscribed other educational dota channels .....
U're the best dota teacher .....😎
Bsj at 14:42: “We understand, we understand” 😂
Its like hes convincing himself he understands
He was thinking he is still playing jakiro "WE"...
In SEA 3k bracket. A good supp will do like bsj did on laning stage, minus the sharing salve, and usually comes with bad positioning so he ended up dying while try to harass.
A bad supp? Pudge pos 5, afk waiting to hook>failed>take farm using rot>dead>leaving lane or repeat.
that kind of pudges is part of the game already still happens at 6.5k+, but these are the only-core-players trying to get their 4 queue role games or that is what i want to think lol
@@Antido0 in SEA too? I mean since he playing core shouldn't he knows better that kind of play is so sh*t. I play core mostly, so when I play support I know better what my core usually need and wants.
it is on USE where i play and find that people, i can say that this happens on all southamerican servers too
it is very common to meet one of this kind every day if you play many matches
since their support pool is very small i guess they panic and pick whatever looks easy for them or they just troll the game to end faster and get their 4 role queue
@@Antido0 and the worst part is they blame carry for losing early game, cause getting ganked, late items and not joining early fights
Thank you BSJ!
BSJ: dont waste your resource for things arent supposed to be your job
also BSJ: gonna buy 2 more salves for my PA here
my 2k brain: wait what
keep up the good work, man
love ur vids
In higher brackets the pos 5 always carries at least 1 salve early game and it's usually for the carry and not themselves, so it's kind of a pos 5 job to do so. This due to the fact that if you win the "regen fight" without your carry spending more gold on it (sometimes because the lane goes poorly and he just bought another necessary item to sustain, sometimes he messed up his item build and you need to aid to recover, anyways), the difference of farm between your carry and the enemies pos 3&4 will increase, allowing him to snowball, in this case you could argue the 2 more salves were actually "for him", because without them, the PA would have gotten killed or zoned, making the 2 level difference to never exist, forcing BSJ to stay in lane more time; even tho the PA actually died with the 2 level difference, you usually don't let your carry alone 1v2 when the other 2 are the same level (only on really specific scenarios). So in order for him to get his own space/freedom, this was a good/necessary call.
Pa wants regen and would buy more salves if they were free.
Dk didn't seem to care about the ward which is free. If you force him to take it, he might put it somewhere, but if he doesn't care you might as well use it.
I think another example of this would be don't buy meteor hammer in this game so that you can push towers, since it's DK's job to push towers.
CM's job is to push creep waves, and so buying things that enable you to do that better is more efficient.