Worked in a studio that had this amp and for a plexi style amp it was unbelievable versatile especially with that extra gain stage. Edge of breakup rhythm tones were incredible and those singing 70s lead tones were buttery smooth.
This is probably my favorite amp ever. These cover nearly every Marshall flavor, and it's a damn shame that most folks couldn't figure out how to use the Vintage Modern.
This may sound stupid but anytime I try out a new guitar at a store I bring mine down to the store. Amp and cab both lol. The Vintage Modern just brings a guitar out in ways that no other amp has for me.
I have to agree with this because I always loved the tones other people got out of these but never managed to get a tone out of it myself. Granted I didn't take one home and spend days on it. But when I had to pick a head I could plug into a 2203 and sound good. Whereas the vintage modern I had to mess around and get nowhere ☹. If I had the money I would deffo buy one tho and figure it out.
@chuckwuethrich5465 Treat them like JTMs or other early plexis. Old Marshall circuits had a ridiculous amount of bass, so most would only actually plug into the high treble channel or jumpered with the bass channel on much lower volume. On the vintage modern that means cranked detail, low body. You then set eq controls to taste, I personally like presence to be high as well.
I worked at a music shop when this one was out. It never got any love. On one hand, I understand since it lacks a lot of the modern accoutrements (probably the worst effects loop I’ve ever used), but on the other, it is simply an amazing sounding amp, and just a blast to play through. As a studio owner, it has become one of the most popular amps amongst my clientele and gets used on nearly every record. As a guitarist, ditching my usual huge pedalboard and going straight into an amp that just kills like this does is super inspiring.
@@qirico sure thing- with most amps I don’t notice any difference in tone or feel with the effects loop engaged. Even switching this on with nothing plugged in has a detrimental effect on the tone and feel. I can’t put my finger on it either; it just isn’t right. It doesn’t necessarily sound bad, just not the same. Not to mention that everything about this amp screams dirt- so the effects loop is super dirty, if you’re running the amp dirty. If you’re hoping to get gilmouresque echo tone you won’t be able to do it with this amp unless you run a Boss tube amp doctor or whatever it’s called. Or run a device that goes between the amp and speakers and provides a line out that you can use to send to delays and a separate amp. But honestly, it sounds so good that I make friends with running everything into the front of the amp. I deal with my delays sounding mushy, because this amp just kills.
I ahve recorded this amp yesterday! Just WAH!!! Sounds... GREAT!!! One of the best sounds I've ever got! IWe now listen to the recorded takes and any adding of effects spoils the sound, it's totally finished and it's just great! I love the high-gain channel on it (high dunamic range , seems it's named) - the other one sounded dull for me ears. And this amp really sounds as old Marshalls, I've met in my life! No 800 stands nearby!
When Johan says 'let's go!,' I know I'm in for a great guitar tone ride! I love this amp - I've owned three of them and will probably keep my current 2466 head for good. Great cleans, surprising for a Marshall, and of course fantastic Marshall crunch and roar!
Thanks for your demo! I totally agree. It's a great amp with a classic sound. I mostly use it with a SPL Reducer (power soak) and turn the thing up to ten. Even with the power soak it sounds amazing. With a Stratocaster great Hendrix tones!
Nice video Johan...I had the 50w combo version of this amp, and really liked it too. I think it's one of the most underestimated and misunderstood Marshalls, because it doesn't do the metal stuff very well. I personally never used the mid-boost on mine, because I didn't like what it did to the tone, but you can get great break up (and great cleans too!) with it. 👍
The presence on these is what I first noticed and fell in love with when mine arrived. No amp, Marshall or otherwise has ever had such crisp classy attack and tone. This is not for metal guys. This is for the guys who love a JMP. Who wants to plug straight in, or use the clean with a bit of bite as a platform for pedals. Notably a Big Muff. Gets that Mascis tone off the bat with the gains at a little under noon, and a Muff with the volume and sustain cranked.
lol this amp does metal easssssy. You know what the difference between a Metal amp and a Rock amp is? a Metal amp sounds like shit, too stale much compression.
Yes!!! I was hoping for you Johan to test the mighty Vintage Modern. I have one 2266 (50W head version) and I looked no further. This is The Amp. Ok, I'm a little bias. :P I don't know why Marshall discontinued this model. Amazing once again. Johan Segeborn, the man that makes any amp sound amazing! Well done!
Aloha Johan! Hey Braddah, EVERYTHING You play has great articulation and execution. Outstanding technique....embellishments and one mean finger vibrato when you want to! Very professional....You definitely got MOJO!!! I enjoy your videos! Mahalo nui loa as always for sharing your time and knowledge! Take care Braddah! Shoot me a message if you ever decide to come to Oahu, Hawaii!
Thanks a lot Johan, now you just jacked up the price! 😂😂😂😂😂 It´s a great sounding amp indeed. Slash used these for a while whist he was in Velvet Revolver.
You really get the classic Alice Cooper sounds with this amp! Love it and might be in the market for one after your fantastic review. Definitely for the guitarist with a passion for the sound of their childhood heroes.It would sit nicely at the side of my Orange stack 😎
I have the 50w one in purple. It's a phenomenal amp. I've gigged it extensively and love it. It's up there with my 1959 SLP for '72 and 1986 from '73. All keepers.
I've got the 50w Head. Bought it in the year Vintage Modern series got released and I'm still using and loving it! The low dynamic channel is great on its own for all kind of classic rock. The dynamic channel really shines once you boost it with an Tubescreamer. Then you got it all the way up to 80s Metal high gain. :)
I owned the 50W combo version of this amp and imo it has the best clean sound of all Marshall amps I´ve played. It´s able to do vintage Fenderlike Strat and Telesounds too; especially with the original G12-C speakers.
I'm happy that you did this one, always wondered how it would sound in Johan's hands :-) And it's outstanding as usual. Nevertheless I seem to like the plexi and 800 a little more, it would be very interesting to hear them back to back. Btw seeing the settings in real time is very cool!
That was cool ! I was watching this video with the captions on and it says that your guitar riffs were music, then it said (applause) than it said the guitar riffage was (laughter) So that was interesting, never seen that before.
I got to play one of these at the guitar shop a couple times. I had issues dialing in a good tone due to not knowing how the controls work. The second time was much better as I was able to spend more time with it.
Before I owned a Marshall, this was the amp that I thought I wanted. I had played a few in stores, and was stoked on them. Then I finally got a 2466 half stack (in PURPLE, FTW!!!!!) and... I didn’t love it. I eventually sold the head, kept the cab, and got a JCM2000 DSL100. It scratches more of my itches. But I still feel like I should revisit the VM series. Maybe I should have tried it with a good pedal or something...
Well that`s an experience i had often too. You think you want this or that and nothing else. But when you finally try it out yourself or own it you feel like its not your thing. Maybe we should be more concentrated on the sound and our needs than the specs, looks or charm of the things?
I think to get the best out of it you need to spend a lot of time getting it set for your guitar type and style of playing. I think there best loud as well they don't do to well at low volumes. But they are seriously good. I use a strat with mine and it's just great
My old bandmate used to have 50watt Vintage modern. I remember it being a really nice sounding amp especially the "vintage channel". It was cheap back then and sounded better than jvm for example which was more expensive. Still my favourite "new" Marshall head is 1987x.
We need to petition marshall to remake these best amps they have done for years. I have a jvm 410c im always on the look out for a 50 watt vintage modern
I have the 100 watt head and 4x12. I replaced the crappy speakers with 2 modern greenbacks 75hz and two rola black back 55hz speakers. It absolutely smacks now. Night and day difference.
Super demo - thank you! My only regret: no demonstration of a "clean" setting. The dynamic response from 1:36-1:49 was tantalizing! (I once had a Marshall combo -- forget which model -- which had beautiful, bell-like, glass-chime clean, often overlooked on Marshalls, I believe.)
Nice one Johan. Just like to say two things. Firstly. Love the way you say ‘Morshall’ and second is the riffs you play are superb. Have you any idea how many times I write songs in my head based on your riffs? Keep doing what you’re doing brother. It’s a real joy every video. 🙏
Interesting settings. I tend to keep the detail higher than the body otherwise I find it gets a bit flubby in the bottom end. I also tend to use a slightly scooped EQ. It is much more responsive to playing dynamics and guitar volume than other Marshalls. It can be a hard amp to dial in which I think why it may have been overlooked. I've also heard that the "100 watt" really only puts out about 77 watts so it won't overwhelm the greenbacks that it was designed for when overdriven. Love mine and will never get rid of it! Great vid as always Johan! 🤘
I've got the 2266C 50 watt combo. The combination of KT66 output valves (my favourites) and the Marshall labelled Celestion G12C greenbacks (only found in this combo and the Ltd. Edition Jimi Hendrix reissue stack) is killer. The speakers were designed using an actual 1968 greenback speaker, as the template for the sound. The Jimi Hendrix reissue amp and the Vintage Modern amps were both designed by Steve Dawson, at Marshall.
I really love my Jubilee, but when I go back to the Vintage Modern I think "Fuck what a great amp!". Soon I will run the VM and Jubilee in Stereo in my V30 Jubilee Cab.
Finally a VM review ..owned one for a couple years and sold it. Didn’t do much more than my 59’ Bassman RI. People don’t understand it. It’s a vintage style amp with “modern features” like fx loop. Awesome amp...especially if used with the matching 425 cab and g12c greenbacks. Very fat and squishy... keep body knob a few steps below detail.
Ive had both the 50 and 100 water. Good amps that you can find cheap. My only issue was the lack of “push” like an 800 or plexi. Nice and squishy sounding if that’s your bag, with a lot of gain on tap as well.
keaulana1 I didn’t feel that the 100 was any better than the 50. Both great amps. I got the 100 hoping that it would have more of that percussive attack, but it didn’t.
Just bought a used 50W head. Mint condition. They are pretty reasonably priced on the used market. The vintage channel is good but with the extra gain stage engaged the amp sings and is easy to control unlike some of the poorly modded Super Leads floating around. I like the stock KT66 tubes but don't know if I love them. They're a little on the soft side. I might investigate if the amp can take a set of EL34 without much modification. That might be the ticket.
Johan are you going to take a look at the Marshall Class 5 at all and if so will it be the head version, combo, or both? What do you think of those amps?
No.the stupidest thing they did was not market it properly. Their marketing for it was why it didn't sell, and why discontinuing it was the only real option. Maybe if that didn't happen, they would have continued making good amps rather than going down digital avenues which has left them where they are now, sold off to a Swedish company 😔
Now I understand why Marshall discontinued this amp. It can nail the Plexi tone for less than half the price of a reissue Plexi. Why plop down a couple of grand when $8-700 bucks will do the same thing? PS: Do yourself a big favor and get the 100w version, you'll be glad you did later.
Sounds like a plexi with more headroom, doesnt get as crunchy as a real plexi though when I just dime the volume, I have a handwired 1968 50 watt super lead clone too. Sold the vintage modern.
people didn't know how to dial them in. if you push the detail knob too high at low volume, the amp sounds very muddy and boxy because it has a ppimv instead of a regular master volume. what this is means is that at low volume the presence knob/nfb are basically out of the circuit which makes the low volume tone darker. the first time i played one i had no idea how to use it and i thought it sucked. now i'm mad i didn't buy one when you could get them for $800 easily. right now there is only one on reverb and two on ebay and they are both well over $1000
@@andrewgarcia3136 but does this mean i cant get presence at low volume? Like bedroom vol. I dont know alot about these so sorry if its a stupid question
+johan I have a 2226 head coming. The video inspired me. How would this compare with a different speaker cab? For example 1x12, 2x12 and 4x12? Thanks in advance!
One approach is to have High Dynamic Range on, then Detail & Body quite low - I suppose it puts an extra tube in the signal path. Also, a boost pedal works wonder for the top end of this amp, like the Solo Dallas Storm.
I have one since 2009. Mine is 2266 g50w head. Connected to a 2x12" greenback cab. It is in museum condition. I don't use as an everyday amp, but it is the last Plexi evolution available from Marshall. Probably the best. Lots and lots of "in between" tones. Only the reverb is crap. Otherwise amazing. KT66 power!!!
Was wondering if you turn down the master to bedroom levels, does it kill the sound quality? I have a NOS 1960A purple Joe Satriani signature cab and I am looking for a head to match for 60's-70's classic rock tones.
Have you heard about the new Synergy amps? They use a basic amp tamplate were you can change the internals. I cant explain it very well, perhaps looking it up might help ;)
Well there are tons of great amps. We have been"pavlov" sound conditioned by the music business. I like marshall amps,some of them but if the who, 1000 glam metal bands, or hendrix used other brand i wonder what amp would we be looking at in these videos. XD
Got one of the 2466s in my collection. I like comparing it to my jtm45/100. I rarely use the high dynamic range though I prefer the vintage mode. The body and detail blending is really cool too. The only problem I have with the amp is the B+ is a little high for modern KT66s. Picked up a matching head and cab for AUD $1000! Great deal! Did you like the vintage modern speaker cabinet with the G12C speakers?
I owned the 100 watt head with the matching cabinet, with a Les Paul Traditional, and no matter what I did I could not dial out the harsh, ear-piercing treble. The amp sounded digital with no warmth at all. I sold it after three months and bought a JCM 800 2203X and never looked back.
I have one and I’m fighting the harsh treble as well, the neck pickup sounds perfect but the bridge is just killer treble even with the presence and treble dialed to zero
Exactly, while detail will provide volume and gain for mid and treble frequencies, body will bring more bass and low mids; the way body works can be changed by pushing the mid boost button.
It's just like Treble Channel and Normal Channel on a Plexi jumped together. Exactly what you have on a Plexi when you put a short jack from treble to normal input. They are volume. And the master is a PPIMV. It's just a modded JTM45 (50w) and JTM45/100 (100w)
@@Guiohms.m50 J'ai regardé un peu ton compte youtube, pas mal le clone 2203, ça sonne super! Tu es dans l'électronique? Et du coup tu as aussi un 2466, t'en penses quoi?
@@massiegauthier1529 Les clones 2203* Je m'en suis fait 2 (bon je les ai revendu ahah), un SLP 68 également (que je ne trouvais pas terrible au final) et le 2466 est très bon, je l'ai acheté car j'avais plus d'amplis et j'avais pas envie de sortir de l'argent pour en fabriquer un, Donc j'ai réussi à avoir un 2466H pour 500 balles, j'ai changé les lampes et la lampe témoin (en ajoutant une résistance) et ça sonne ! Mais je préfère quand même mes anciens 2203. Donc j'hésite à modder le VM. Non je ne suis pas dans l'électronique, c'est plus un hobby passager
@@Guiohms.m50 Ok ouai, le VM n'est pas aussi agressif qu'un 2203, sûrement à cause des KT66, mais il fait énormément de chose. A ce prix c'est vraiment une perle. J'attends une pédale wah pour le booster en low dynamic et me rapprocher d'un son JMP. Tu as mis quoi comme lampes? J'ai aussi acheté le miens à très bon prix, mais je n'ai encore rien changé.
Great video. I have the 2266 Half Stack and my brother has the 2466 Half Stack; both with the 425A cabinet,which sound even better. I love the Low Dynamic (Vintage) Range with the boost on and a Phase 90. Bad Company. My only dislike is the function of the single button 4 position foot switch :HD range w/reverb,HD range w/o reverb and like wise with the Low range. I would like it to have a 2 button switch to control reverb and mid boost. Also,if your purple light goes out,don't pay $15.00 for a new one. Antique Electronic has them for $6.00 and it's an improved lamp.
I bought one of these about a year and a half ago (because of various youtube demos, including this one). It is hands down the best feeling/sounding guitar amp I've ever owned (and over 25+ years of playing, that's a *lot*). The only hangup is that it absolutely *needs* greenbacks to really do what it does. In an X pattern with V30's, it's still solid, but it just sounds so much better through 4 greenbacks. I've heard people say that it's not as loud as a plexi, and owning this as well as a plexi, the answer to that is: UH, NOT MUCH IS LOUDER THAN A PLEXI. This thing isn't by any means quiet, but it's a conservative 100 watts for sure; which is actually pretty great because I can drive a single 412 with vintage blackbacks in it and not worry about annihilating $1000 worth of vintage speakers. I think it failed for this reason though, because pumping this amp into something with v30's really brings out the worst in the v30.
Having the settings on screen is a
nice touch Johan 👍
ya i think that's cool too
Thanks Kay!
Thanks man
Best guitar channel on TH-cam for my money
No question!
Wrong! It's the best amp & cabinet channel.
Shoegaze forever who do you think is the best guitar channel?
One of the best Marshall designs ever!!
Worked in a studio that had this amp and for a plexi style amp it was unbelievable versatile especially with that extra gain stage. Edge of breakup rhythm tones were incredible and those singing 70s lead tones were buttery smooth.
This is probably my favorite amp ever. These cover nearly every Marshall flavor, and it's a damn shame that most folks couldn't figure out how to use the Vintage Modern.
This may sound stupid but anytime I try out a new guitar at a store I bring mine down to the store. Amp and cab both lol. The Vintage Modern just brings a guitar out in ways that no other amp has for me.
@@PoppinACap22does not sound stupid but it does sound heavy, carrying all that gear 😀
I have to agree with this because I always loved the tones other people got out of these but never managed to get a tone out of it myself. Granted I didn't take one home and spend days on it. But when I had to pick a head I could plug into a 2203 and sound good. Whereas the vintage modern I had to mess around and get nowhere ☹. If I had the money I would deffo buy one tho and figure it out.
@chuckwuethrich5465 Treat them like JTMs or other early plexis. Old Marshall circuits had a ridiculous amount of bass, so most would only actually plug into the high treble channel or jumpered with the bass channel on much lower volume. On the vintage modern that means cranked detail, low body. You then set eq controls to taste, I personally like presence to be high as well.
I've been hoping you would do this amp! I've owned one for years now. Great gem few people are aware of. Great video, Johan!
Thanks Ty!
Love your tone and playing Johan! It always shines regardless of what gear you're playing. The amp sounds great too.
The key seems to be having the Master at 10. :)
I'm always thankful for you videos.
I worked at a music shop when this one was out. It never got any love. On one hand, I understand since it lacks a lot of the modern accoutrements (probably the worst effects loop I’ve ever used), but on the other, it is simply an amazing sounding amp, and just a blast to play through. As a studio owner, it has become one of the most popular amps amongst my clientele and gets used on nearly every record. As a guitarist, ditching my usual huge pedalboard and going straight into an amp that just kills like this does is super inspiring.
Hi!
Could you please tell us what is wrong with that fx loop?
@@qirico sure thing- with most amps I don’t notice any difference in tone or feel with the effects loop engaged. Even switching this on with nothing plugged in has a detrimental effect on the tone and feel. I can’t put my finger on it either; it just isn’t right. It doesn’t necessarily sound bad, just not the same. Not to mention that everything about this amp screams dirt- so the effects loop is super dirty, if you’re running the amp dirty. If you’re hoping to get gilmouresque echo tone you won’t be able to do it with this amp unless you run a Boss tube amp doctor or whatever it’s called. Or run a device that goes between the amp and speakers and provides a line out that you can use to send to delays and a separate amp. But honestly, it sounds so good that I make friends with running everything into the front of the amp. I deal with my delays sounding mushy, because this amp just kills.
@@bulletproofzest got ya
Phase inverter affects fx loop as far as I know
I ahve recorded this amp yesterday! Just WAH!!! Sounds... GREAT!!! One of the best sounds I've ever got! IWe now listen to the recorded takes and any adding of effects spoils the sound, it's totally finished and it's just great!
I love the high-gain channel on it (high dunamic range , seems it's named) - the other one sounded dull for me ears.
And this amp really sounds as old Marshalls, I've met in my life! No 800 stands nearby!
I still have mine, i LOVE IT, its the Tastiest Marshall i have owned
When Johan says 'let's go!,' I know I'm in for a great guitar tone ride! I love this amp - I've owned three of them and will probably keep my current 2466 head for good. Great cleans, surprising for a Marshall, and of course fantastic Marshall crunch and roar!
Some pretty sweet tones there! And yes, awesome bang for buck! Keep up the good work Johan 🤘🤘
Thanks for your demo! I totally agree. It's a great amp with a classic sound. I mostly use it with a SPL Reducer (power soak) and turn the thing up to ten. Even with the power soak it sounds amazing. With a Stratocaster great Hendrix tones!
Nice video Johan...I had the 50w combo version of this amp, and really liked it too. I think it's one of the most underestimated and misunderstood Marshalls, because it doesn't do the metal stuff very well. I personally never used the mid-boost on mine, because I didn't like what it did to the tone, but you can get great break up (and great cleans too!) with it. 👍
I agree with the effect on tone but I think that the Mid-boost helps to cut through the mix.
The presence on these is what I first noticed and fell in love with when mine arrived. No amp, Marshall or otherwise has ever had such crisp classy attack and tone. This is not for metal guys. This is for the guys who love a JMP. Who wants to plug straight in, or use the clean with a bit of bite as a platform for pedals. Notably a Big Muff. Gets that Mascis tone off the bat with the gains at a little under noon, and a Muff with the volume and sustain cranked.
lol this amp does metal easssssy. You know what the difference between a Metal amp and a Rock amp is? a Metal amp sounds like shit, too stale much compression.
With a propper EQ and dirt pedals, it will get pretty metal.
I use the Pod HD500 and a MXR 10 band. Any metal tone for days.
Great tones out of that amp. Beautiful amp design. Most people don't understand how to use it Looking forward to the reissue.
Yes!!!
I was hoping for you Johan to test the mighty Vintage Modern.
I have one 2266 (50W head version) and I looked no further. This is The Amp.
Ok, I'm a little bias. :P
I don't know why Marshall discontinued this model.
Amazing once again.
Johan Segeborn, the man that makes any amp sound amazing!
Well done!
Aloha Johan! Hey Braddah, EVERYTHING You play has great articulation and execution. Outstanding technique....embellishments and one mean finger vibrato when you want to! Very professional....You definitely got MOJO!!! I enjoy your videos!
Mahalo nui loa as always for sharing your time and knowledge! Take care Braddah! Shoot me a message if you ever decide to come to Oahu, Hawaii!
Thanks a lot Johan, now you just jacked up the price! 😂😂😂😂😂
It´s a great sounding amp indeed. Slash used these for a while whist he was in Velvet Revolver.
You really get the classic Alice Cooper sounds with this amp! Love it and might be in the market for one after your fantastic review. Definitely for the guitarist with a passion for the sound of their childhood heroes.It would sit nicely at the side of my Orange stack 😎
I have the 50w one in purple. It's a phenomenal amp. I've gigged it extensively and love it. It's up there with my 1959 SLP for '72 and 1986 from '73. All keepers.
Yeah, and to me the 71-73 Superlead is the pinnacle and VM holds up really well
I can very close to buying this model six years ago but bought the JVM205. Wish I could’ve gotten both! Great job as always brother!
Thanks Brother, the JVM is a killer amp too!
Love it and the settings overlay! Great tones as usual. Rock on bro!😎🎸
Rock on my friend!
Wish You lived in México...Your channel is amongst my favorites! Cheers!
I've got the 50w Head. Bought it in the year Vintage Modern series got released and I'm still using and loving it! The low dynamic channel is great on its own for all kind of classic rock. The dynamic channel really shines once you boost it with an Tubescreamer. Then you got it all the way up to 80s Metal high gain. :)
That’s a great tip, the hi gain channel certainly needs to be tightened up. Cheers
Sounds awesome bud! Nice crunch, I like the settings on the bottom, Very cool bro thanks............. Mike(Whitey).
Oew i love this one in a few days im buying this one from a local guitar store cant wait
I owned the 50W combo version of this amp and imo it has the best clean sound of all Marshall amps I´ve played. It´s able to do vintage Fenderlike Strat and Telesounds too; especially with the original G12-C speakers.
Never knew about this one , sounds great
Thanks Paul!
I had my eye on these when they came out but then I had to luck to come across great deal on an 80's Jcm800 2205 so I never bought one. Great sound!
I'm happy that you did this one, always wondered how it would sound in Johan's hands :-) And it's outstanding as usual. Nevertheless I seem to like the plexi and 800 a little more, it would be very interesting to hear them back to back. Btw seeing the settings in real time is very cool!
That was cool ! I was watching this video with the captions on and it says that your guitar riffs were music, then it said (applause) than it said the guitar riffage was (laughter) So that was interesting, never seen that before.
Hahahaha! Beautiful, I have to try that :-)
Also one of my all time favourite Marshalls!
I got to play one of these at the guitar shop a couple times. I had issues dialing in a good tone due to not knowing how the controls work. The second time was much better as I was able to spend more time with it.
I had one of the 100watt heads I modified with a choke. It sounded amazing. I wish I kept that amp.
Damn, I didn’t know they didn’t have a choke.
Indeed, a great sounding amp!
I love this amp. Got it for $800!!! It’s amazing
Before I owned a Marshall, this was the amp that I thought I wanted. I had played a few in stores, and was stoked on them. Then I finally got a 2466 half stack (in PURPLE, FTW!!!!!) and... I didn’t love it. I eventually sold the head, kept the cab, and got a JCM2000 DSL100. It scratches more of my itches. But I still feel like I should revisit the VM series. Maybe I should have tried it with a good pedal or something...
Running a boost in front of it is definitely the ticket, gives it that extra focus and crunch
Well that`s an experience i had often too. You think you want this or that and nothing else. But when you finally try it out yourself or own it you feel like its not your thing. Maybe we should be more concentrated on the sound and our needs than the specs, looks or charm of the things?
I think to get the best out of it you need to spend a lot of time getting it set for your guitar type and style of playing. I think there best loud as well they don't do to well at low volumes. But they are seriously good. I use a strat with mine and it's just great
It sounds good, Johan! Nice to hear this amp played by you, Marshalls only PPIMV amp since the `70s.
But of course you´ve got the Master on 10! :-D
Great tones my friend!
My old bandmate used to have 50watt Vintage modern. I remember it being a really nice sounding amp especially the "vintage channel". It was cheap back then and sounded better than jvm for example which was more expensive. Still my favourite "new" Marshall head is 1987x.
and now, you make me buy this! I was even not marshall guy! you devil!
Looking for an amp..got this last stock at the store today at 700 us dollar brand new..love this amp..
We need to petition marshall to remake these best amps they have done for years. I have a jvm 410c im always on the look out for a 50 watt vintage modern
YOU DID IT!!! Thank you Johan!
Suono fantastico!!! Grande Johan!!!!Amo il mio 800😇❤️alla follia ma questo è molto bello anche lui!! Bravo!
Had the same amp myself for a few years, very underrated! Wish I hadn't sold It!
I had one too, that I sold and regretted it
Sounds great! One thing I noticed was the bass control on the Marshall.
Why do some people play with the bass control turned all the way off?
Could you ever compare an orange rocker 30. To a Marshall 2204. Or jcm 800
I have the 100 watt head and 4x12. I replaced the crappy speakers with 2 modern greenbacks 75hz and two rola black back 55hz speakers. It absolutely smacks now. Night and day difference.
This was the first and only marshall ive ever fallen in love with
Super demo - thank you! My only regret: no demonstration of a "clean" setting. The dynamic response from 1:36-1:49 was tantalizing! (I once had a Marshall combo -- forget which model -- which had beautiful, bell-like, glass-chime clean, often overlooked on Marshalls, I believe.)
I have this amp modded with a choke, JJ power and Mullard preamp tubes. It’s just a blessing. I just hate how the reverb is a bit finicky.
Nice one Johan. Just like to say two things. Firstly. Love the way you say ‘Morshall’ and second is the riffs you play are superb. Have you any idea how many times I write songs in my head based on your riffs? Keep doing what you’re doing brother. It’s a real joy every video. 🙏
Interesting settings. I tend to keep the detail higher than the body otherwise I find it gets a bit flubby in the bottom end. I also tend to use a slightly scooped EQ. It is much more responsive to playing dynamics and guitar volume than other Marshalls. It can be a hard amp to dial in which I think why it may have been overlooked. I've also heard that the "100 watt" really only puts out about 77 watts so it won't overwhelm the greenbacks that it was designed for when overdriven. Love mine and will never get rid of it! Great vid as always Johan! 🤘
Me too. I crank the detail and use the body modestly for tight chunky tone. I put Gold Lyon tubes in mine and man what a difference. I love this amp.
Johan please do the ultimate comparison : JCM 900 vs DSL vs Vintage Modern
Yeah, and I’ll throw in JVM and Origin.
coool
Go Johan go!! Do it!
I've got the 2266C 50 watt combo. The combination of KT66 output valves (my favourites) and the Marshall labelled Celestion G12C greenbacks (only found in this combo and the Ltd. Edition Jimi Hendrix reissue stack) is killer. The speakers were designed using an actual 1968 greenback speaker, as the template for the sound.
The Jimi Hendrix reissue amp and the Vintage Modern amps were both designed by Steve Dawson, at Marshall.
A good amp ... can't go wrong with four KT66's in your power stage 👍
On last 5 second I've heard Ace Frehley on your playing... 😍
Thanks man, I LOVE Ace
I really love my Jubilee, but when I go back to the Vintage Modern I think "Fuck what a great amp!". Soon I will run the VM and Jubilee in Stereo in my V30 Jubilee Cab.
Finally a VM review ..owned one for a couple years and sold it. Didn’t do much more than my 59’ Bassman RI. People don’t understand it. It’s a vintage style amp with “modern features” like fx loop. Awesome amp...especially if used with the matching 425 cab and g12c greenbacks. Very fat and squishy... keep body knob a few steps below detail.
Yeah those cabs are great
it is a really good amp !!
Sounds great, would love to hear with a Strat too!
Ive had both the 50 and 100 water. Good amps that you can find cheap. My only issue was the lack of “push” like an 800 or plexi. Nice and squishy sounding if that’s your bag, with a lot of gain on tap as well.
I've had the 50 watter and couldn't agree more
Yeah, it does a great JTM45 but isn’t as percussive as a 71-73 Superlead
@@JohanSegeborn expound further? You mean the attack is softer?
Which one do you like better? 50 or 100?
keaulana1 I didn’t feel that the 100 was any better than the 50. Both great amps. I got the 100 hoping that it would have more of that percussive attack, but it didn’t.
Just bought a used 50W head. Mint condition. They are pretty reasonably priced on the used market. The vintage channel is good but with the extra gain stage engaged the amp sings and is easy to control unlike some of the poorly modded Super Leads floating around. I like the stock KT66 tubes but don't know if I love them. They're a little on the soft side. I might investigate if the amp can take a set of EL34 without much modification. That might be the ticket.
amazing amp, i have one 2266 and i never will sell that amp
Johan are you going to take a look at the Marshall Class 5 at all and if so will it be the head version, combo, or both? What do you think of those amps?
Master=10!!! That's the offical secret of the Segeborn tone :D
I think that's the one Michael Schenker uses..
Incredible AMP😁👍🏻
One of the best made
One of the Stupidest things Marshall’s ever done was discontinuing this model and the “Astoria” series!
No.the stupidest thing they did was not market it properly. Their marketing for it was why it didn't sell, and why discontinuing it was the only real option. Maybe if that didn't happen, they would have continued making good amps rather than going down digital avenues which has left them where they are now, sold off to a Swedish company 😔
Now I understand why Marshall discontinued this amp. It can nail the Plexi tone for less than half the price of a reissue Plexi. Why plop down a couple of grand when $8-700 bucks will do the same thing? PS: Do yourself a big favor and get the 100w version, you'll be glad you did later.
More like this is another one of those Marshall amps that was misunderstood
Sounds like a plexi with more headroom, doesnt get as crunchy as a real plexi though when I just dime the volume, I have a handwired 1968 50 watt super lead clone too. Sold the vintage modern.
people didn't know how to dial them in. if you push the detail knob too high at low volume, the amp sounds very muddy and boxy because it has a ppimv instead of a regular master volume. what this is means is that at low volume the presence knob/nfb are basically out of the circuit which makes the low volume tone darker. the first time i played one i had no idea how to use it and i thought it sucked. now i'm mad i didn't buy one when you could get them for $800 easily. right now there is only one on reverb and two on ebay and they are both well over $1000
@@andrewgarcia3136 but does this mean i cant get presence at low volume? Like bedroom vol. I dont know alot about these so sorry if its a stupid question
@@cole4767 no you can, just gotta take the body down a bit and take some of the detail out
It has a great high gain bark when you turn up the bass eq at 4:16. But the same eq isn't ideal for lighter distortion.
My first Marshall Made in England head! I love it! By the way Johan, it's spelled "Masterpiece" all in one word. Great post!
+johan I have a 2226 head coming. The video inspired me. How would this compare with a different speaker cab? For example 1x12, 2x12 and 4x12? Thanks in advance!
Do you have something close to
The Marshall evh used
He's got a whole room full of them! Lol
One approach is to have High Dynamic Range on, then Detail & Body quite low - I suppose it puts an extra tube in the signal path. Also, a boost pedal works wonder for the top end of this amp, like the Solo Dallas Storm.
I want one of these so badly, but I don't have a soundproof rock-and-roll bunker like Johan does! Maybe one day :-)
I have one since 2009. Mine is 2266 g50w head. Connected to a 2x12" greenback cab. It is in museum condition. I don't use as an everyday amp, but it is the last Plexi evolution available from Marshall. Probably the best. Lots and lots of "in between" tones. Only the reverb is crap. Otherwise amazing. KT66 power!!!
Yeah the reverb us a bit dark, but useful to fill out the tone without being heard
If I come across a used 2266 50w head it is going to be hard for me to pass up \m/
Was wondering if you turn down the master to bedroom levels, does it kill the sound quality? I have a NOS 1960A purple Joe Satriani signature cab and I am looking for a head to match for 60's-70's classic rock tones.
Have you heard about the new Synergy amps? They use a basic amp tamplate were you can change the internals. I cant explain it very well, perhaps looking it up might help ;)
Cool, gonna Google it now
I think this is Paul Gilbert's choice of amps after he left Laney ... Now he use jcm 900 (i saw it on Instagram)
The JCM 900 has always been my personal favorite
Yeah, he always has a great tone
I really regret selling my JCM 900SLX. It was a great amp!
This was also Slash's and Malmsteem's choice of amp.
Well there are tons of great amps. We have been"pavlov" sound conditioned by the music business. I like marshall amps,some of them but if the who, 1000 glam metal bands, or hendrix used other brand i wonder what amp would we be looking at in these videos. XD
Got one of the 2466s in my collection. I like comparing it to my jtm45/100. I rarely use the high dynamic range though I prefer the vintage mode. The body and detail blending is really cool too. The only problem I have with the amp is the B+ is a little high for modern KT66s. Picked up a matching head and cab for AUD $1000! Great deal! Did you like the vintage modern speaker cabinet with the G12C speakers?
WoW what an amp ...all for clean but the reverb was good ...until you hit the the 10's ..its a WOW..and the SG was a great choice - enjoyed the tones
I owned the 100 watt head with the matching cabinet, with a Les Paul Traditional, and no matter what I did I could not dial out the harsh, ear-piercing treble. The amp sounded digital with no warmth at all. I sold it after three months and bought a JCM 800 2203X and never looked back.
I have one and I’m fighting the harsh treble as well, the neck pickup sounds perfect but the bridge is just killer treble even with the presence and treble dialed to zero
@@reeves198 I don't regret selling it at all. To me it was unusable.
WHO IS MAKING THE BEST CURRENT KT-66? BRAND OR FACTORY? AND THE PRICE FOR A QUARTET OF CURRENT BEST SOUNDING KT-66'S?
Hi Johan what do you think about the efx loop? The reverb is unusable for me… thanks. Amazing channel and playing.
I love mine. Just as much as my Plexi’s. Think the only thing they missed was making the mid boost foot switchable
Same here, love them both.
Super sound! 👌👍
Thanks!
Definitely an amp to run from the guitars volume knob - clean to solo all from one channel
Just love single channel amps for their honest feel
Was this only room mic? Didn’t here much of the direct sound.
What do the detail and body knobs do? Do they function as a gain knob?
Exactly, while detail will provide volume and gain for mid and treble frequencies, body will bring more bass and low mids; the way body works can be changed by pushing the mid boost button.
It's just like Treble Channel and Normal Channel on a Plexi jumped together. Exactly what you have on a Plexi when you put a short jack from treble to normal input. They are volume. And the master is a PPIMV. It's just a modded JTM45 (50w) and JTM45/100 (100w)
@@Guiohms.m50 J'ai regardé un peu ton compte youtube, pas mal le clone 2203, ça sonne super! Tu es dans l'électronique? Et du coup tu as aussi un 2466, t'en penses quoi?
@@massiegauthier1529 Les clones 2203* Je m'en suis fait 2 (bon je les ai revendu ahah), un SLP 68 également (que je ne trouvais pas terrible au final) et le 2466 est très bon, je l'ai acheté car j'avais plus d'amplis et j'avais pas envie de sortir de l'argent pour en fabriquer un, Donc j'ai réussi à avoir un 2466H pour 500 balles, j'ai changé les lampes et la lampe témoin (en ajoutant une résistance) et ça sonne ! Mais je préfère quand même mes anciens 2203. Donc j'hésite à modder le VM.
Non je ne suis pas dans l'électronique, c'est plus un hobby passager
@@Guiohms.m50 Ok ouai, le VM n'est pas aussi agressif qu'un 2203, sûrement à cause des KT66, mais il fait énormément de chose. A ce prix c'est vraiment une perle. J'attends une pédale wah pour le booster en low dynamic et me rapprocher d'un son JMP. Tu as mis quoi comme lampes? J'ai aussi acheté le miens à très bon prix, mais je n'ai encore rien changé.
Great video. I have the 2266 Half Stack and my brother has the 2466 Half Stack; both with the 425A cabinet,which sound even better. I love the Low Dynamic (Vintage) Range with the boost on and a Phase 90. Bad Company. My only dislike is the function of the single button 4 position foot switch :HD range w/reverb,HD range w/o reverb and like wise with the Low range. I would like it to have a 2 button switch to control reverb and mid boost. Also,if your purple light goes out,don't pay $15.00 for a new one. Antique Electronic has them for $6.00 and it's an improved lamp.
Great video as usual Johan! Unrelated question: Which one is closer to the G12H 55Hz with Pulsonic cones, the G12H Heritage or the G12 35XC? Thanks!
Johan, have you tried the Supro Statesman amp? And if you have, what do you think?
Dam, can I get one cheap to! It so sweet, and pushes hard for SG, what you tune! Anyway nice amp, kinda like jcm 900?
Always the good ones are discontinued. :(
I bought one of these about a year and a half ago (because of various youtube demos, including this one). It is hands down the best feeling/sounding guitar amp I've ever owned (and over 25+ years of playing, that's a *lot*). The only hangup is that it absolutely *needs* greenbacks to really do what it does. In an X pattern with V30's, it's still solid, but it just sounds so much better through 4 greenbacks. I've heard people say that it's not as loud as a plexi, and owning this as well as a plexi, the answer to that is: UH, NOT MUCH IS LOUDER THAN A PLEXI. This thing isn't by any means quiet, but it's a conservative 100 watts for sure; which is actually pretty great because I can drive a single 412 with vintage blackbacks in it and not worry about annihilating $1000 worth of vintage speakers. I think it failed for this reason though, because pumping this amp into something with v30's really brings out the worst in the v30.
The speaker selection really shines with this amp. Have you tried the 50W? Wonder how it sounds compared to the 100W?