You can use it as a channel switcher of sorts. Set to low dynamic range with detail on 8-9 and body on6-7. Set tones to taste. You get great jtm45 tone then just switch to high dynamic with foot switch for super saturation distortion for solos. I also have a 1978 2204 with 4x12 blackbacks which I have owned from new, but prefer the vintage modern for its wider range of tones, though if I was gigging I would probably use the 2204 as it just cuts through anything.
My favorite amp! Not gonna sell this baby. A couple of points: ~ The Tone Stack is the same as the JTMs, JCMs and the other classic Marshall amps with the classic 100K cathode follower. Hint: Backing off the Bass control tightens up the low end so you can have the Body set higher, for example. ~ The Body side rolls off the Midrange above @500Hz. The Midrange Boost restores some of the midrange above 500Hz that was filtered out. It only affects the Body. I like it and use it a lot to fatten up the tone. ~ I ran 6L6s in my combo with good results when I was having trouble finding KT66s that didn't rattle. The Gold Lion KT66s I got solved that issue. ~ A world of tones can be accessed with this amp if you're skilled with using the guitar's controls. If your controls are always full up it's probably not your cup of tea...until you figure that out. ~ It's kind of fun having the digital reverb. I never had a Marshall with a reverb before. Like having a cup holder and vanity mirror in a truck. It's easy enough to turn off. Another fantastic demo, Leon.
This is one of the greatest amps I’ve ever played through. It’s immediately satisfying, super fun to play, and (studio owner here) it gets used on nearly every project I do at some point. I understand it doesn’t have every bell and whistle of a modern amp, but it sounds absolutely amazing.
Definitely a killer amp and demo! The designer himself said the name means "Vintage tones, with modern features - Fx loop, master volume, mid boost". Players probably thought "dual tones, vintage, and modern high gain".
The Loop sucks, Reverb is passable, Mid boost is a bit overkill specially with the ability to dial in body and bass to taste, and I use the Master always at 10, (Body and Detail to taste). Other than that, killer amp, and on LDR and Body/Detaly low, I get beautiful clean tones as a base for my pedals.
I own that amp since 2012 and I love it. It took some time for me to find the right settings and understand the concept of the amp too, but once you got it - its awesome. Works great with pedals as well.
I changed the original 425A-cabinet for a 2061cx 2x12 cab. For me that combination is great. Running the VM in Lo Dynamic Range and pushing it with pedals (OCD or Bogner Ecstasy Red)....Great tone !
I bought one in 2012 also, i have a 1990s 4x12 cab with Heritage G12H' Greenbacks, tastiest Marshall ive ever owned, and ive had original 1969 100 watt Super Lead,, 1970'- 71-'72' Plexis, Black Orange and Red, JCM800 JCM 900 DSL 100 loved them all but this is the best tone ive ever had out of my Vintage Modern and the above cab.
I've bought a Vintage Modern 2266 shortly after the series was launched and I'm still loving it! High Dynamic Range with a Tube Screamer in front -> great 80s Heavy Metal Sound! I agree that it's a shame thay Marshall stopped producing them. Really versatile amp once you understand how the controls work.
I finally have one of these! An online store was selling the purple 2x12 combo for £499, I bought it and I’ve been binge-watching all your Vintage Modern videos in anticipation haha.
Insane deal for $350. Would love one of these. Would be interesting to see how an Origin 50 head goes up against this. Similar design philosophy done in very different ways. Bought one for a school I work at recently and it’s surprisingly good.
I picked up one of these 2 years ago on kijiji for 600 bucks,( kijiji is like Craiglist here in Canada ) mines the 100 watt version and purple, I run it through a 4x12 loaded with vintage 30's and it's absolutely killer, I get guys all the time raving about my tone and can't believe this thing and most have never herd of the vintage modern or if they did they didn't know they sounded this good.. I love mine and will never sell it.
Man, you explained the "body" control a lot better than the manual. The reference on Sleep fuzzy sound it's a point. This is a sort of "sleeper" amp for stoner doom guys like me!
Love My Marshall Vintage Modern..........and your playing is Amazing Leon. I got a little bit of a Hendrix Shuffle demo on my Channel, nothing as cool as you. But I just love the tone of a Strat with the Vintage Modern. One of the Great Underrated amps ever.
You’ve made me love my 2466 again. Agree that if Marshall put this out again, they should make it a true channel switcher. The FX loop could also do with a redesign too IMO. I read somewhere that the phase inverter is a source of gain in this amp and it happens that The FX return comes in before the PI which means when running a delay pedal in the loop, the delay trails come out dirty like as if you are running the delay in front of a dirty amp. The only way I could get around this was to use a line out signal from a load box, into the delay and then the delay out to a seperate power amp and speaker. Quite inconvenient for what is otherwise a fantastic tone monster.
Yeah little things like that make a huge difference. A reissue with a few small circuit tweaks and "high gain/low gain" instead of dynamic range would appeal to a lot more players. If this was a legit channel switcher it would be so good.
I just got one I’m using the dynamic mode with body and detail about 3, just perfect 👌 also got a dsl 50 but feel the VM is a bit smoother sounding. Great vids keep them up 👍
ogrish76 loved the one I had, but same thing - fx loop blew out really quickly and the pilot light as well. Great sounding amp, though. Even the old 2205 and dsl50 I had never had those problems. Mid boost was cool with single coils.
Great video and some good playi g too. I picked up the 100 watt version of this a little while ago. Definitely need to get an attenuator. But this very quickly became my favourite amp. Absolutely love the tone and voice. It really is a Rock'n'roll beast. Especially playing my Epiphone Les Paul custom through it.
I love Marshall amps, I own a 2018 DSL 100 and a 4x12 cab, and for those who doesn't think Marshall doesn't or can't do metal, check out black label society doing Godspeed hellbound or bleed for me or any tune from his catalogue..... Nuff said
Have two of these with original cabs use with my Hiwatt stack and evh half stack the three mix well. Bought one on EBay that was modified on v2 but came to me destroyed had to put all new tubes in repaired all the bullshit inside that someone hacked and it sounds amazing
Loving your video's on this amp man. I regret selling mine SO much. Pro tip, get yourself a detox eq from homebrew electronics or another good equalizer and you can use that as a sort of 'virtual' clean channel. Setting one up properly can bring down the gain by quite a bit without losing much volume (it really helps how dynamic and responsive the amp is). This way it's almost as if you've got a clean channel right there at the click of a button! Works really well on normal and high dynamic range. Can't take credit for the hack though, that's how Paul Gulbert used to run it when he toured with this amp.
Hi Leon really glad you’ve done this feature which is helping to give the vintage modern the justice it deserves as a truly great amp. The reason it didn’t sell well is really down to ignorance. The people who get it are the old school players who understand that basically you turn the amp right up and use your volume control to get all your sounds with the tube screamer or equivalent just to add a bit more for Leads. 20 years ago I was one of those people who thought you need different channels on your amp clean, crunch, lead and lots of knobs and now 20 years later I realise you don’t need any of these things. Just crank your amp up and use your volume control just like Angus Young, Michael Schenker, Ritchie Blackmore EVH etc etc. When you get the master to 7 on this amp you realise it’s all there. All the best and keep up the cool videos Maxelcat
Leon Todd yeah, I had a kind of eureka moment with this amp at a gig. I was in a two guitarist band, the other guy had a Strat and I was playing an Explorer through the VM. The place was quite large and packed with people. so we got to turn up pretty loud. Past 7 the amp became so responsive to pick attack and the guitar volume I finally got what all these old musos had been banging on about. Really fantastic tone and great fun to play.
Have you tried the Majik Box Doug Aldrich Rocket Fuel overdrive/boost pedal with the VM yet? Doug had the pedal voiced specifically for use with his VM. I use it in both LDR and HDR depending on what I’m playing. It is a pretty tweakable responsive pedal.
Thanks for making this video, it has helped me a great deal in finding my start on this. I have this in the purple hue and have been messing with it for over a year to coax the tones I want and am looking to maybe get new tubes. Any you would recommend? I am not an amp guy as far as knowing a whole lot about repairing or customizing them. If you are able to please make more as you discover more things. It is appreciated.
Great modern tone !! Some other demo said it doesn’t do metal or modern tones !!?$&## Hell if doesn’t ., thanks I’m wondering if that guitar is tuned down ? Because your tone makes me think if when guys put on heavier gauge strings and tune way down.. you can tell I don’t really know what I’m talking about as I’m more of a rock blues jazz player.. anyway delightful high gain tone .. I’m gonna try it because I do have a dark side that like to come out once in a while
Nice demo, I was thinking of getting one of these but what put me off was the switchable modes have huge volume difference making it unpractical to use in a live situ
The Vintage Modern was marketed by Marshall as an easy-to-play amp but this is false. What the VM can do to a Strat is amazing but it takes time to find those great tones within them. Also, you need to be an above average player with a good and variable picking technique, otherwise this amp will make you sound worse. [I've just bought a 2nd 100W VM head for £575 (with new tubes). If Marshall did reissue them they would probably charge around £1600 for them (like the JCM 800 reissues). If Marshall doesn't reissue them then it won't be long before the used ones start to fetch silly prices. ]
it takes a brain to run a Vintage Modern, thats why it didnt sell as well, but those of us with a Brain know that its like using a Jumperd Plexi, its that simple, but allot of guys never had an original plexi they want it to work like a DSL.
@@cliffords2315 You also need to understand that with a VM your guitar controls are an important extension of the amp's controls (and that the VM's EQ has the least effect on its sound.)
here I am again your favorite commenterrorist I don’t know why people rave about the JCM 800 or the Silver Jubilee??like I said I was in Hollywood from 1980 until 1992 and when Marshall released those amps everyone hated them now it seems 40 years later this whole new generation of players love those 2 Amps. Well, I’m here to say that I can’t stand either of them, the vintage modern, pretty much destroys every Marshall in every direction. again it was designed as a master class one channel, no nonsense, bulldozer of an amp, and that’s just what it does, it fills the mix, and can keep up and surpass even the most expensive of the boutique Amplifiers. There are really only three Amps that I put near it or beside it as I commented yesterday the SLO 100 by Soldano, a 1998 Bogner 101b and the Friedman, BE-100 2017 model. That’s 4 Amps that are the very best of the very best. They also sound best in their respective cabinets, although I don’t like the sound of. Soldano 4X12 or Marshall Cabs. The two best. 4X12 cabs on earth are the Bogner 4X12 Cabs and the Friedman Vintage 4X12 Cabs, Both must be the straight cabs. angled cabs have that strange mid range squawk on the top no matter what speaker you put in them as always. Thanks, Leon for making videos and thank God you realized the vintage modern really is Awesome. Remember I told you I spoke to Steve Dawson, who designed the Amp and it’s basically a JTM 45 and a plexi under one hood as the detail and body knobs replicate what the four input style Marshalls jumped sounded like. I’ve been playing for over 50 years and I’ve owned every combination of marshals and amp configuration you could possibly imagine this, indeed is the best Marshall money can buy. I say that knowing full well that there’s very few good sounding Plexi’s they’ve all been bought up and most of them modified! The only plexi”s that are on the market right now are pretty much run over and need lots of work. Some of the parts aren’t even available any longer. Plexi is a buzz word that I hear new guitar players parrot. I think it’s funny because most of them never heard one and today’s players use so much gain and distortion which is fine I get it but it’s really not a plexi after you start stacking a clean boost, and a couple of your favorite overdrive pedals in front. on a sidenote, because I don’t write comments, but may be a few times a year and for whatever reason you keep coming up on my radar. as an afterthought if you have to put some type of gain pedal in front of the vintage modern, I would recommend an archer ikon, Mythical overdrive (vintage spec) a hand wired tube, screamer, or if money is no issue grab a Klondike, although your generation has ruined the price of a Klon. I fix and repair amps and there’s only about $30 worth of parts in that box. The Archer Ikon is as good and in some ways slightly better. 🎉🎃
hey man, don't blame me for the Klon hype I was only born in '88! The VM pretty much nails the "what everyone thinks a Plexi should sound like" sound IMO.
I read your comment, giggled with glee, and moved on.... but then I had to come back. What you said should be written on tablets like the ten commandments. I'm a neophyte guitarist and have a millionth of your experience and talent, but I love tone. I got tipped off to these amps when all I could find was a 1974x. I knew I wanted a jtm/45 (at least a crisper tone) and found a 2266 combo. I at least had the good fortune to see Johann Segeborn's videos before I got it, so I knew the right tones were inside; I just had to figure out the dialing in. I got the classic rock tones on the LDR,...BUT the real treat was discovering all the other tones on the HDR. After getting familiar with the general tone topography of the amp I threw out what one thinks one should know about how to dial in an amp, because this amp is a virtual candy store of tones. I'm dialing in shit that makes no sense knob setting-wise, but am being rewarded with stuff ranging from Mick Ronson to "Roxy roller" tones, and I'm wallowing in it like a pig in mud. It's like you alluded to: this amp is a jumpered jtm/45, with the option of getting additional glam rock 70's marshall tones ( in my opinion). It's not a channel switching designed amp--- It's a SOUND LIBRARY amp of all those 60's-70's Marshall tones. The guys who dislike it are the ones who are into jcm 800 gain and beyond. For guys our age this dirtbox is the shit! Via con Dios.
@@thebenefactor6744 at least one more intelligent person, but that is earnestly seeking the very best of tone. Hats off, you found a killer amp it’s a living breathing dragon enjoy it and thanks for the reply too kind.
I played a purple one a few years back. Don’t remember if it was a 50w or a 100w unit. I have to say it sounded pretty good. Having said that, to my ears it didn’t have the angry nasty growl that my 2204 has. I thought about buying it but decided to go with the Friedman .
Hey Leon, brilliant Video, getting some wicked tones out of the VM, brilliant Playing! Is that the Strat you had the Neck re-done, sounds killer. Would you mind giving me the name of the Luthier you used please. Take Care.
Leon Todd Thanks Leon, WA, quite a distance from Melbourne, much appreciated though. Do you know of a reputable Luthier in Melbourne? You are spot on the DSL 401 and the VM are awesome Amps! Melbourne, Australia.
I have VM2466, and I only use the clean channel with my Strat but I have a problem and I wonder if you have it too. I set the tone for strumming and soloing around the 7th fret but when I play high notes around the 15th fret (E and B strings) the sound becomes painfully high to my ears. Literally hurt my ears. Then I set it properly for these high notes not to hurt my ears but then the tone becomes too low when I play again around the 7th fret of the neck. Do you have any such problem? I'm so disappointed with this.
Hey if I wanted to go to sleep I just eat a bunch of chocolate pudding and pie you can actually do that with you trouble bass knobs on your guitar also dial then in synchronicity
Leon Todd Just thought... depending on what version your mate has... theres a stage 1 and stage 2. The later is a revoiced version. If your mate has a stage 1, i have a stage 2, so if you like and youre not too far from me (Yanchep). Would be happy to bring it down to see how they all compare.
I’m stuck… it’s this, a JCM2000 or an Orange AD30! Can only pick one… I’m heavy towards the VM but dangit… Anyone with this amp have an orange also? I guess it’s FOMO. Lol Oh, and good luck finding one of these for under a grand now. 😭😭😭
you fix a broken led with a red led? why not a blue one like a original? i fixed my with a blue led. I never gonna sell my 2266, for me best Marshall ever
The BEST Marshall ever made is the Joe Satriani JVM 410...you can get ALL the tones from any Marshall out of it. Take from a guy who has owned some of the best ones Vintage mid 60s Plexi's and many others...
Definitely a Marshall I do not love, as I find it brittle sounding and non-sensitive. No wonder that Slash loves that amp, as I never made friends with the Duncan Alnico pro II ... for rhythm sounds, definitely, but for modern lead tones? No thanks! We both love 1960 necks and the Boss GE7 then :)
@@cliffords2315 I never adopted the Vintage modern amp into my rig, but played it in the store in comparison to the other heads; the DSL50, Silver Jubilee, 6505 mkII but if I gave it like 6 months or more, I would find use for it. The power amp section is ... very dynamic :P
Why tf does every guitar player reviewing amps put on a Stratocaster and automatically go to that shitty sounding 4th position using the middle and back pickup? That squawky sound is the worse, especially when you have the amp cranked so high that it sounds like a cheap fuzz box. Thumbs down.
You can use it as a channel switcher of sorts. Set to low dynamic range with detail on 8-9 and body on6-7. Set tones to taste. You get great jtm45 tone then just switch to high dynamic with foot switch for super saturation distortion for solos. I also have a 1978 2204 with 4x12 blackbacks which I have owned from new, but prefer the vintage modern for its wider range of tones, though if I was gigging I would probably use the 2204 as it just cuts through anything.
My favorite amp! Not gonna sell this baby. A couple of points:
~ The Tone Stack is the same as the JTMs, JCMs and the other classic Marshall amps with the classic 100K cathode follower. Hint: Backing off the Bass control tightens up the low end so you can have the Body set higher, for example.
~ The Body side rolls off the Midrange above @500Hz. The Midrange Boost restores some of the midrange above 500Hz that was filtered out. It only affects the Body. I like it and use it a lot to fatten up the tone.
~ I ran 6L6s in my combo with good results when I was having trouble finding KT66s that didn't rattle. The Gold Lion KT66s I got solved that issue.
~ A world of tones can be accessed with this amp if you're skilled with using the guitar's controls. If your controls are always full up it's probably not your cup of tea...until you figure that out.
~ It's kind of fun having the digital reverb. I never had a Marshall with a reverb before. Like having a cup holder and vanity mirror in a truck. It's easy enough to turn off.
Another fantastic demo, Leon.
This is one of the greatest amps I’ve ever played through. It’s immediately satisfying, super fun to play, and (studio owner here) it gets used on nearly every project I do at some point. I understand it doesn’t have every bell and whistle of a modern amp, but it sounds absolutely amazing.
Definitely a killer amp and demo! The designer himself said the name means "Vintage tones, with modern features - Fx loop, master volume, mid boost". Players probably thought "dual tones, vintage, and modern high gain".
The Loop sucks, Reverb is passable, Mid boost is a bit overkill specially with the ability to dial in body and bass to taste, and I use the Master always at 10, (Body and Detail to taste).
Other than that, killer amp, and on LDR and Body/Detaly low, I get beautiful clean tones as a base for my pedals.
I own that amp since 2012 and I love it. It took some time for me to find the right settings and understand the concept of the amp too, but once you got it - its awesome. Works great with pedals as well.
It's a great amp to find your own sound on.
I changed the original 425A-cabinet for a 2061cx 2x12 cab. For me that combination is great. Running the VM in Lo Dynamic Range and pushing it with pedals (OCD or Bogner Ecstasy Red)....Great tone !
I bought one in 2012 also, i have a 1990s 4x12 cab with Heritage G12H' Greenbacks, tastiest Marshall ive ever owned, and ive had original 1969 100 watt Super Lead,, 1970'- 71-'72' Plexis, Black Orange and Red, JCM800 JCM 900 DSL 100 loved them all but this is the best tone ive ever had out of my Vintage Modern and the above cab.
I agree, JCM 2000 DSL and Vintage modern are the best ones produced recently.
I loved the DSL also
I've bought a Vintage Modern 2266 shortly after the series was launched and I'm still loving it! High Dynamic Range with a Tube Screamer in front -> great 80s Heavy Metal Sound!
I agree that it's a shame thay Marshall stopped producing them. Really versatile amp once you understand how the controls work.
M stopped making them because they compared them to other amps.
I finally have one of these! An online store was selling the purple 2x12 combo for £499, I bought it and I’ve been binge-watching all your Vintage Modern videos in anticipation haha.
Insane deal for $350. Would love one of these.
Would be interesting to see how an Origin 50 head goes up against this. Similar design philosophy done in very different ways. Bought one for a school I work at recently and it’s surprisingly good.
Hopefully soon. Waiting for the origins to arrive so I can demo the 50.
I have the 50c Origin it has a lot lower gain then the VM but thats nice for a change:)
This amp and the JCM800 KK are my favorites
Totally agree - but I would also add the Vox AC.
Vintage Modern for 70s music JCM800 for 80s Rock
I picked up one of these 2 years ago on kijiji for 600 bucks,( kijiji is like Craiglist here in Canada ) mines the 100 watt version and purple, I run it through a 4x12 loaded with vintage 30's and it's absolutely killer, I get guys all the time raving about my tone and can't believe this thing and most have never herd of the vintage modern or if they did they didn't know they sounded this good.. I love mine and will never sell it.
Nice score! It's a dark horse but it rips
Leon Todd I subscribed I love Marshalls and I like your content..
That intro was GNARLY AF. Mah dude Leon giving us the goods. Great demo of the amp !
Thanks so much! I had a little bit of time in between students and a coffee and this was the result.
Yea, The Marshall 2266 mashes all my buttons with a big rubber mallet!
Well done Leon! Fine demonstration and tones!
Lucky score on that one!
Thanks for sharing brother!
Sounds sick with a start, may have to purchase one..
Man, you explained the "body" control a lot better than the manual. The reference on Sleep fuzzy sound it's a point. This is a sort of "sleeper" amp for stoner doom guys like me!
This plus a Russian muff is pure wall of sound doom.
Always waiting on you to do more VM demos because i never get opportunity to crank mine.
I have a 2266 myself. Love it.
Love My Marshall Vintage Modern..........and your playing is Amazing Leon. I got a little bit of a Hendrix Shuffle demo on my Channel, nothing as cool as you. But I just love the tone of a Strat with the Vintage Modern. One of the Great Underrated amps ever.
You’ve made me love my 2466 again. Agree that if Marshall put this out again, they should make it a true channel switcher. The FX loop could also do with a redesign too IMO. I read somewhere that the phase inverter is a source of gain in this amp and it happens that The FX return comes in before the PI which means when running a delay pedal in the loop, the delay trails come out dirty like as if you are running the delay in front of a dirty amp. The only way I could get around this was to use a line out signal from a load box, into the delay and then the delay out to a seperate power amp and speaker. Quite inconvenient for what is otherwise a fantastic tone monster.
Yeah little things like that make a huge difference. A reissue with a few small circuit tweaks and "high gain/low gain" instead of dynamic range would appeal to a lot more players. If this was a legit channel switcher it would be so good.
Maybe one day they will bring it back. Keep up the good work man👍
hang onto it, its going to be worth allot of money one of these days
Really nice sounding Marshall
I just got one I’m using the dynamic mode with body and detail about 3, just perfect 👌 also got a dsl 50 but feel the VM is a bit smoother sounding. Great vids keep them up 👍
I owned a few of these, sounded great, every one of them blew power tubes, f'd up the fx loop and the purple pilot light always burnt out.
ogrish76 loved the one I had, but same thing - fx loop blew out really quickly and the pilot light as well. Great sounding amp, though. Even the old 2205 and dsl50 I had never had those problems. Mid boost was cool with single coils.
What happened to fx loop?
Now that I listen to this video, I realize Fractal sounds almost like the real deal !!
Great video and some good playi g too. I picked up the 100 watt version of this a little while ago. Definitely need to get an attenuator. But this very quickly became my favourite amp. Absolutely love the tone and voice. It really is a Rock'n'roll beast. Especially playing my Epiphone Les Paul custom through it.
I love Marshall amps, I own a 2018 DSL 100 and a 4x12 cab, and for those who doesn't think Marshall doesn't or can't do metal, check out black label society doing Godspeed hellbound or bleed for me or any tune from his catalogue..... Nuff said
TH-camrs I love : Leon Todd
Right back at you bro th-cam.com/video/25QyCxVkXwQ/w-d-xo.html
Brilliant amp
Just came across this video, and it's Fantastic ! Great Job !
Have two of these with original cabs use with my Hiwatt stack and evh half stack the three mix well. Bought one on EBay that was modified on v2 but came to me destroyed had to put all new tubes in repaired all the bullshit inside that someone hacked and it sounds amazing
300 us bucks for a VM is just crazy...
Yeah but try finding one at this price !..........Impossible !!....especially since the secret is out that those can sound awesome !!
Someone doesnt know what they had
@@lousekoya1803 Yea they are going for over 2k these days
Loving your video's on this amp man. I regret selling mine SO much. Pro tip, get yourself a detox eq from homebrew electronics or another good equalizer and you can use that as a sort of 'virtual' clean channel. Setting one up properly can bring down the gain by quite a bit without losing much volume (it really helps how dynamic and responsive the amp is). This way it's almost as if you've got a clean channel right there at the click of a button! Works really well on normal and high dynamic range. Can't take credit for the hack though, that's how Paul Gulbert used to run it when he toured with this amp.
Paul actually explains it (a lot better than I do) in this old post on the Racer X forums! www.racerxband.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=16463
I never joined but I used to read the Racer X forum a lot. If Paul likes it chances are I'll love it too.
Hi Leon really glad you’ve done this feature which is helping to give the vintage modern the justice it deserves as a truly great amp. The reason it didn’t sell well is really down to ignorance. The people who get it are the old school players who understand that basically you turn the amp right up and use your volume control to get all your sounds with the tube screamer or equivalent just to add a bit more for Leads.
20 years ago I was one of those people who thought you need different channels on your amp clean, crunch, lead and lots of knobs and now 20 years later I realise you don’t need any of these things. Just crank your amp up and use your volume control just like Angus Young, Michael Schenker, Ritchie Blackmore EVH etc etc.
When you get the master to 7 on this amp you realise it’s all there.
All the best and keep up the cool videos
Maxelcat
That means a lot, thankyou. There is a beautiful synergy between player, guitar and amplifier that is under appreciated these days.
Leon Todd yeah, I had a kind of eureka moment with this amp at a gig. I was in a two guitarist band, the other guy had a Strat and I was playing an Explorer through the VM. The place was quite large and packed with people. so we got to turn up pretty loud. Past 7 the amp became so responsive to pick attack and the guitar volume I finally got what all these old musos had been banging on about.
Really fantastic tone and great fun to play.
I love those revelatory moments on stage. Sets you free!
Have you tried the Majik Box Doug Aldrich Rocket Fuel overdrive/boost pedal with the VM yet?
Doug had the pedal voiced specifically for use with his VM. I use it in both LDR and HDR depending on what I’m playing. It is a pretty tweakable responsive pedal.
Haven't but would love to. Didn't realise it was designed around the VM.
i love my JCM 900 Hi Gain Dual Reverb
Thanks for making this video, it has helped me a great deal in finding my start on this. I have this in the purple hue and have been messing with it for over a year to coax the tones I want and am looking to maybe get new tubes. Any you would recommend? I am not an amp guy as far as knowing a whole lot about repairing or customizing them. If you are able to please make more as you discover more things. It is appreciated.
Great modern tone !! Some other demo said it doesn’t do metal or modern tones !!?$&##
Hell if doesn’t ., thanks
I’m wondering if that guitar is tuned down ?
Because your tone makes me think if when guys put on heavier gauge strings and tune way down.. you can tell I don’t really know what I’m talking about as I’m more of a rock blues jazz player.. anyway delightful high gain tone .. I’m gonna try it because I do have a dark side that like to come out once in a while
Nice demo, I was thinking of getting one of these but what put me off was the switchable modes have huge volume difference making it unpractical to use in a live situ
Hey if you can't crawl through the mud never get to the thud
The Vintage Modern was marketed by Marshall as an easy-to-play amp but this is false. What the VM can do to a Strat is amazing but it takes time to find those great tones within them. Also, you need to be an above average player with a good and variable picking technique, otherwise this amp will make you sound worse.
[I've just bought a 2nd 100W VM head for £575 (with new tubes). If Marshall did reissue them they would probably charge around £1600 for them (like the JCM 800 reissues). If Marshall doesn't reissue them then it won't be long before the used ones start to fetch silly prices. ]
it takes a brain to run a Vintage Modern, thats why it didnt sell as well, but those of us with a Brain know that
its like using a Jumperd Plexi, its that simple, but allot of guys never had an original plexi they want it to work
like a DSL.
@@cliffords2315 You also need to understand that with a VM your guitar controls are an important extension of the amp's controls (and that the VM's EQ has the least effect on its sound.)
How much headroom does this amp have? Can you get some good cleans out of it or us it all crunch?
Those monitors are nice af
Love that strat sound through it. Is it a flatter fretboard radius? Stock pickups?
Flatter board with Suhr ML pups
here I am again your favorite commenterrorist I don’t know why people rave about the JCM 800 or the Silver Jubilee??like I said I was in Hollywood from 1980 until 1992 and when Marshall released those amps everyone hated them now it seems 40 years later this whole new generation of players love those 2 Amps. Well, I’m here to say that I can’t stand either of them, the vintage modern, pretty much destroys every Marshall in every direction. again it was designed as a master class one channel, no nonsense, bulldozer of an amp, and that’s just what it does, it fills the mix, and can keep up and surpass even the most expensive of the boutique Amplifiers. There are really only three Amps that I put near it or beside it as I commented yesterday the SLO 100 by Soldano, a 1998 Bogner 101b and the Friedman, BE-100 2017 model. That’s 4 Amps that are the very best of the very best. They also sound best in their respective cabinets, although I don’t like the sound of. Soldano 4X12 or Marshall Cabs. The two best. 4X12 cabs on earth are the Bogner 4X12 Cabs and the Friedman Vintage 4X12 Cabs, Both must be the straight cabs. angled cabs have that strange mid range squawk on the top no matter what speaker you put in them as always. Thanks, Leon for making videos and thank God you realized the vintage modern really is Awesome. Remember I told you I spoke to Steve Dawson, who designed the Amp and it’s basically a JTM 45 and a plexi under one hood as the detail and body knobs replicate what the four input style Marshalls jumped sounded like. I’ve been playing for over 50 years and I’ve owned every combination of marshals and amp configuration you could possibly imagine this, indeed is the best Marshall money can buy. I say that knowing full well that there’s very few good sounding Plexi’s they’ve all been bought up and most of them modified! The only plexi”s that are on the market right now are pretty much run over and need lots of work. Some of the parts aren’t even available any longer. Plexi is a buzz word that I hear new guitar players parrot. I think it’s funny because most of them never heard one and today’s players use so much gain and distortion which is fine I get it but it’s really not a plexi after you start stacking a clean boost, and a couple of your favorite overdrive pedals in front. on a sidenote, because I don’t write comments, but may be a few times a year and for whatever reason you keep coming up on my radar. as an afterthought if you have to put some type of gain pedal in front of the vintage modern, I would recommend an archer ikon, Mythical overdrive (vintage spec) a hand wired tube, screamer, or if money is no issue grab a Klondike, although your generation has ruined the price of a Klon. I fix and repair amps and there’s only about $30 worth of parts in that box. The Archer Ikon is as good and in some ways slightly better. 🎉🎃
hey man, don't blame me for the Klon hype I was only born in '88! The VM pretty much nails the "what everyone thinks a Plexi should sound like" sound IMO.
I read your comment, giggled with glee, and moved on.... but then I had to come back. What you said should be written on tablets like the ten commandments.
I'm a neophyte guitarist and have a millionth of your experience and talent, but I love tone. I got tipped off to these amps when all I could find was a 1974x. I knew I wanted a jtm/45 (at least a crisper tone) and found a 2266 combo. I at least had the good fortune to see Johann Segeborn's videos before I got it, so I knew the right tones were inside; I just had to figure out the dialing in. I got the classic rock tones on the LDR,...BUT the real treat was discovering all the other tones on the HDR. After getting familiar with the general tone topography of the amp I threw out what one thinks one should know about how to dial in an amp, because this amp is a virtual candy store of tones. I'm dialing in shit that makes no sense knob setting-wise, but am being rewarded with stuff ranging from Mick Ronson to "Roxy roller" tones, and I'm wallowing in it like a pig in mud. It's like you alluded to: this amp is a jumpered jtm/45, with the option of getting additional glam rock 70's marshall tones ( in my opinion). It's not a channel switching designed amp--- It's a SOUND LIBRARY amp of all those 60's-70's Marshall tones. The guys who dislike it are the ones who are into jcm 800 gain and beyond. For guys our age this dirtbox is the shit! Via con Dios.
@@thebenefactor6744 at least one more intelligent person, but that is earnestly seeking the very best of tone. Hats off, you found a killer amp it’s a living breathing dragon enjoy it and thanks for the reply too kind.
@@LeonTodd the vintage modern is a library of historic and modern tones. It really is the culmination of all great marshals at their Zenith.
it was too late before realized that I made a mistake and sold it... but I plan on getting it back in the near near future 🤘🏽
Yes! Great amp, let the vintage modern love grow.
Leon Todd I still love watching the Vintage Modern videoclips very much so 🤘🏽 I finally bought my Marshall back and its home in its road case...
Is it possible to make some kemper profiles for that amp? It sounds fantastic.
Crazy
I played a purple one a few years back. Don’t remember if it was a 50w or a 100w unit. I have to say it sounded pretty good. Having said that, to my ears it didn’t have the angry nasty growl that my 2204 has. I thought about buying it but decided to go with the Friedman .
Keep em coming Leon, 2466 100 watter great also, has more clean headroom (if you need it!)
Would love to try the 100watter, just because
Love mine. Will never ever ever sell it. Ever. Never
I love this amp man, thanks for making videos about Marshall Vintage Modern, really meade not sell this amp, Greetings from México! :D
Hey Leon, brilliant Video, getting some wicked tones out of the VM, brilliant Playing!
Is that the Strat you had the Neck re-done, sounds killer. Would you mind giving me the name of the Luthier you used please.
Take Care.
Yeah it's had a full refret and the fingerboard radius corrected. Plays like a dream now. Tim Thompson at MT-Guitars in perth.
Leon Todd Thanks Leon, WA, quite a distance from Melbourne, much appreciated though. Do you know of a reputable Luthier in Melbourne? You are spot on the DSL 401 and the VM are awesome Amps!
Melbourne, Australia.
I have VM2466, and I only use the clean channel with my Strat but I have a problem and I wonder if you have it too. I set the tone for strumming and soloing around the 7th fret but when I play high notes around the 15th fret (E and B strings) the sound becomes painfully high to my ears. Literally hurt my ears. Then I set it properly for these high notes not to hurt my ears but then the tone becomes too low when I play again around the 7th fret of the neck. Do you have any such problem? I'm so disappointed with this.
this boy is shining like a star! Is it a 50w? What the best speaker for it?
Seems to be a 100w 2466
Greenbacks all the way
Do you still have this amp ?
Hello. can you tell me more about the power tubes? what do you use, do you need to set up bias for 6l6? Thx
please make one preset to the AX8 with the VM character!
Hey if I wanted to go to sleep I just eat a bunch of chocolate pudding and pie you can actually do that with you trouble bass knobs on your guitar also dial then in synchronicity
How does it compare to DSL volume wise?
Hi Leon. Have you played a Mesa Stiletto? Wondering how it would compare with your marshalls? Cheers
Yeah, my friend has one so I'll grab it to demo!
Leon Todd Awesome
Leon Todd Just thought... depending on what version your mate has... theres a stage 1 and stage 2. The later is a revoiced version. If your mate has a stage 1, i have a stage 2, so if you like and youre not too far from me (Yanchep). Would be happy to bring it down to see how they all compare.
Spun out, I'm in Quinns! Would love to try it man
Leon Todd I’ll flick you an fb message later and we can work something out.
This sounds great! What are you views on the TSL 100?
I need to give that amp a second chance actually. Watch this space...
I’m stuck… it’s this, a JCM2000 or an Orange AD30! Can only pick one… I’m heavy towards the VM but dangit…
Anyone with this amp have an orange also? I guess it’s FOMO. Lol
Oh, and good luck finding one of these for under a grand now. 😭😭😭
Vintage vs the plexi ?
Should have waited for 4:20 to play the stoner setting! Bahahaha
AUD350? Feck. I bought mine used for like a grand. Still worth it but
I got super lucky
Yours a 2266 or 2466?
2266 I think (50W).
Ah. Mine the 2466, 100W
is that 100w or 50w?
You ever have a play with a YJM100?
Sadly no, but I would love to try one
Strat.. Good grief
Is it a 50 or a 100w?
this is the 50w version
Do not ever tell a Vintage Modern lover that you replaced the KT-66 tubes with something else. (Do not recommend channel).
exactly just saw a video of a guy replaced KT-66's with 6L6gc's Turning it into a Fender.
you fix a broken led with a red led? why not a blue one like a original? i fixed my with a blue led.
I never gonna sell my 2266, for me best Marshall ever
Could you please share the way you use it?
What kind of tones u get and what settings you use for it?
I ordered two purple LED's in case it ever blew out,
The BEST Marshall ever made is the Joe Satriani JVM 410...you can get ALL the tones from any Marshall out of it. Take from a guy who has owned some of the best ones Vintage mid 60s Plexi's and many others...
I like the muddy disgusting setting 😞
sond smooty dsl to agressif for me
🤓NAH.........DSL & SL-X are the forces to by wreckoned🤓
Definitely a Marshall I do not love, as I find it brittle sounding and non-sensitive. No wonder that Slash loves that amp, as I never made friends with the Duncan Alnico pro II ... for rhythm sounds, definitely, but for modern lead tones? No thanks! We both love 1960 necks and the Boss GE7 then :)
You have obviusly never played one., But COOL STORY BRO...........
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@@cliffords2315 I never adopted the Vintage modern amp into my rig, but played it in the store in comparison to the other heads; the DSL50, Silver Jubilee, 6505 mkII but if I gave it like 6 months or more, I would find use for it. The power amp section is ... very dynamic :P
Prob a great amp if your happy with 1 sound all night
Made in China
Why tf does every guitar player reviewing amps put on a Stratocaster and automatically go to that shitty sounding 4th position using the middle and back pickup? That squawky sound is the worse, especially when you have the amp cranked so high that it sounds like a cheap fuzz box. Thumbs down.
Gotta get the quack happening.