Which Marshall Would You Choose - JTM45 or 1987x Plexi?

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  • @DarkTideOffroad
    @DarkTideOffroad ปีที่แล้ว +13

    These hour long videos where yall really get into nuts and bolts of things leaving no stone unturned are very appreciated!

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    It's a long story but I got my first Marshall 1987 in '71 when playing for Prog Rock band Tallis in London UK. I chanced on Ron Wood playing at a club where he had his jam band that he had so he could have a fun Blues band. He enjoyed playing small mainly obscure clubs where he hopefully would not have to deal with the celebrity thing. We had a long talk about his 50 watt Marshall. I wanted one but had no money so he arranged for me to get a mint used one on the cheap that he used in a studio. It is a long story but I paid for it and picked it up at the Selmer store.Twice I had to sell my 1987 but at 75 I think my now 3rd one will see me out. As for the old vs the new x model the difference is not a lot. The old one is just a bit more wooly and it has bit less bite. I can recommend either. As the guys mentioned you just need a little of the brite channel. Any Strat sounds great thru the amp but I really recommend if you use a guitar with Hummies you put in a Gibson 57 Classic.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      What a great story, thanks Paul!

    • @frishdaw
      @frishdaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Amazing story

    • @darrenc8776
      @darrenc8776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Real history. Great story

    • @GCKelloch
      @GCKelloch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Awesome, Paul. Ceriatone offers Plexi models with different power filtering options based on the year. The filtering changes made them more gainy and aggressive from the early 70s on. The cathode bypass cap value also affected the gain above a given freq. That and the transformers used make the all sound a bit different. The Dagnell transfomers in modern era Marshalls haven't had the dynamic depth of the vintage ones by other companies. Perhaps those in these RI's are more like the vintage ones?

    • @Sixstringhiggs
      @Sixstringhiggs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of the most interesting things you guys did, that you’ve never re-created, is you set a 45 to be used with petals for your guitarist magazine thing.
      Some of the coolest sounds that I ever heard with pedals were these unexpected combinations of mid pushing petals into a big Marshall. Would love to see you guys do that again.

  • @basdenchris
    @basdenchris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The pure joy on Dan’s face when he plays is so heartwarming. Love you guys!

  • @stevebailey4490
    @stevebailey4490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    "Beautiful clean sounds... but that's not what you're here for!" You know, I have to say, Marshall cleans are some of my absolute favorites. I think they have so much personality and have a real body and spank to them that I just don't get from the Fender camp. Got into them from those early Pretenders records and what James Honeyman-Scott and Robbie McIntosh had going on. Love those OD sounds as well, but Marshalls are underrated for their clean sounds and I think you guys successfully demonstrated why that shouldn't be. Well done!

    • @sparknado
      @sparknado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Funny though. It's actually what I was here for.

    • @CaevanOShite
      @CaevanOShite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Clean Up" via adjusting the guitars volume-controls and ones "touch" to vary from cleaner through meaner to misdemeanor is KEY.

    • @stricknine8623
      @stricknine8623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you are an AC/DC cover band or something in the same category,..It is irrelevant.
      Pristine cleans are beautiful but sometimes are not needed.
      Everything I play has atleast a subtle amount of dirt on it. I think its beautiful as long as it has great note separation.

    • @ryangunwitch-black
      @ryangunwitch-black 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s how SRV used them. Usually. Marshalls for the cleans and Fenders for the higher gain. I’m sure the Dumble had something to do with how killer his tone was but….

    • @Steel4u
      @Steel4u ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m also a fan of the Marshall clean sound! Years ago I was playing both pedal steel and guitar through a 100-watt 1959SLP with surprisingly good results, albeit it with more efficient speakers. Not wanting to have to haul more than one amp I decided to take a shot at using the 1959 for pedal steel as well and both myself and my band mates were pleasantly surprised at how great it sounded. Totally unexpected. However, in the studio I still use vintage Fender amps for steel but in that live situation the Marshall was amazing for everything I played through it and it had headroom for days! At one point I was using a 50-watt 1987 in the studio for lap steel but it seemed to be in no man’s land because it was too loud for sessions and at the same time underpowered for live performance in my particular situation. A few weeks ago I acquired a reissue JTM45 to use on lap steel for recording and after substantial tweaking I’ve settled on a blend of using pedals combined with a slight amount of breakup from the amp itself. After trying a variety of speakers the Alnico Gold seems to pair best with the JTM45 so far.

  • @thoretornado1671
    @thoretornado1671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Fantastic comparison! I own one of these 1987x reissues, which is actually a very versatile amp which delivers 100% dynamic and detailed tones, from "clean" to overdriven as long as you use a decent cabinet. For those who complain about it's agressivity: this is relativ. 1) In a band environment it's a total different picture. 2) You may use the lower inputs as well, which are way smother, cleaner and controllable in certain situations. Don't forget, you can use the jumper in any diagonal way! 3) You can use the tone pot on your guitar as well to smothen the sound. 4) Experiment with the speakers or try a different cab. Playing through these amps is so much fun though it needs time to find your sweetspots due to its versatility!

  • @alecschingel1621
    @alecschingel1621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Watching Dan's expression at minute 34 is incredible! The sudden shift to the 1987 and the wincing face followed by his slowly getting giddy with ROCK! He looks like a superhero who just suddenly discovered his powers. Also looks like every pimply faced 15 year old who plugs into a loud amp in the garage for the first time. Amazing to see your childlike enthusiasm for this stuff is still very alive and kicking! Great show

    • @everyinchtheanimal
      @everyinchtheanimal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My 8 year old nephew has just started guitar lessons and it’s the same face he pulled when I turned my amp up and let him play. He’s never heard or played amplified so to say he enjoyed it is an understatement. He immediately did a Pete Townsend windmill lol

    • @ruffryder13
      @ruffryder13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He looks like he's about to rock...and I salute him.

    • @mobydick3895
      @mobydick3895 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Historically, the 1987X has seen a vastly superior amount of use in bands and on hit records.

    • @CaptainAhab-im3kd
      @CaptainAhab-im3kd 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mobydick3895 that is the $64,000 observation here. This is a fact. The demand for 1987X I presume is much higher. at least historically.

  • @jimcairns1633
    @jimcairns1633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I just want to say thank you guys. It's an absolute pleasure to watch high quality video and audio. We all know that 99% of youtube is just horrible clipped audio. Thanks for doing it right!! Round of applause

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thank you Jim! All analogue right up to the computer... and no plugins!

  • @user-oy7gz5bf2h
    @user-oy7gz5bf2h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Man, that clean tone on the JTM45 with the strat is amazing!

    • @CG-gp2bh
      @CG-gp2bh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have the hand wired marshall version from like 6or 7 years ago absolutely fantastic cleans

    • @totallyunmemorable
      @totallyunmemorable ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As someone who has built more than a few Marshall circuits, even I was astonished to suddenly one day realize that the Marshall was designed to deliver not raucous distortion, but a beautiful clean sound. We just happened to get really lucky that it works great for both.

  • @dwaynedelario
    @dwaynedelario 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I had a JTM45 made for me recently in LA by one of the greats, and as much as I am a die hard Fender guy, this amp quickly shot up to my number one. The weight of the transients on the nearest edge of breakup are absolutely insane. Massive. I have never felt so connected to an amp when I play, it's quite something to behold.

    • @jbf16falcon
      @jbf16falcon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That wind through the trees buy off is still on the board? lol

    • @dwaynedelario
      @dwaynedelario 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jbf16falcon wait what?

    • @IamtheFerryMan
      @IamtheFerryMan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @dwaynedelario I concur. While my daily driver is a Fender HRD III, my friend built me a JTM45 two years ago, and it's a brilliant sounding, percussive amp. I had mine built with a Metro Zero Loss effects loop. It loves a good fuzz in front of it, and it is stinking loud for 30 watts. It's a beautiful build for sure, and I smile whenever I plug into it. Funny it's just a Bassman with british parts, eh?

    • @shawnglass108
      @shawnglass108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My number one amp is a 1962HW..It’s, of course, the combo version of a JTM45 with an added vibrato. It has the KT66 power tubes. The overdriven tones are definitely incredible but it is the clean tones that are truly unbelievable. Some of the best clean tones of any amp I’ve ever heard. Heavenly.

    • @EM-km8em
      @EM-km8em ปีที่แล้ว

      Where can i find one of these JTMs Near Buena Park? Something affordable cause i get most of my needs off a Dual Rectifier

  • @murph1017
    @murph1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow Dan! Your clean tone playing was excellent. I was moved. Great playing, sir!

  • @jonhale1329
    @jonhale1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Talk about an 'Andy Timmons' moment - Dan's playing at 32:00 through the JTM45 is just sublime...

    • @zippy61
      @zippy61 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Andy !

  • @lucistired
    @lucistired 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I would love to hear a modern bassman reissue compared to the JTM 45

    • @iamgodbringmecake
      @iamgodbringmecake ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, absolutely

    • @shawnglass108
      @shawnglass108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They’re so completely different. They may have started out to copy a Bassman but they abandoned that idea very quickly. Originally because of part availability. There is very little that remains the same between the two. I’m not sure but I’d guess that the tone stack between a Bassman and a modern JTM45..I am actually interested to know what, if anything, remains the same between them. Anyone know?

    • @lucistired
      @lucistired ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shawnglass108 They have the same topology with slightly different part values. With the exception of the tubes (without a little bit of modification) they have interchangeable parts

    • @eyedunno8462
      @eyedunno8462 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends on what you mean by Bassman - 5F6A? 6G6B? AB165? AB864? AA763?

    • @PeeSocks14
      @PeeSocks14 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@eyedunno8462 everyone knows what bassman he refers to. We are all very happy that you know all the BM circuits though

  • @simonsmith2579
    @simonsmith2579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best video lately, reminds me why I started watching That Pedal Show. Good old fashioned knob turning and going into detail with classic gear. Great watch.

  • @Kyle-mw2nv
    @Kyle-mw2nv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    An amp pairing video is a must. Marshall with matchless, ac30 with fender. Match made in heaven combination or combinations that most people wouldn't think of. Great Video!

    • @averyadrian1534
      @averyadrian1534 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AC15 Tweed Deluxe… sound so good together

  • @qeuqheeg222
    @qeuqheeg222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this video..explains a lot of history between the two amps and their specs..but i really appreciate how you give the clean and volume to point break up a lot of playnwith different guitars..people always just turn marshalls way up in these vids vs really showcasing the dynamic ranges possible..love the zztop at end too

  • @sparknado
    @sparknado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    JTM45 sounds so freaking good for what I want to hear in an amp and what I'd use it for. A+ guys!

  • @iwiggs6870
    @iwiggs6870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've plugged into a 1987x before. As a fan of high-gain amps like Bogners, Mesa MKVs and 5150s...the 1987 felt like I was plugging into a screaming thermonuclear device capable of killing any small creature within a 5 mile radius. It's such an empowering, joyous, hilarious feeling and everybody needs to do it at least once.
    Also, good GOD that SG again is the absolute show-stealer.

  • @paulbates4100
    @paulbates4100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love my JTM45, gorgeous clean and crunch, goose with a Lightspeed, double goose with Revv G3, covers all bases for me. Great vid chaps.

    • @The_Absurdistt
      @The_Absurdistt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can only imagine how well the Revv G3 pairs with your JTM. I'm guessing it gets it in the 80's hard rock/metal sound... like George Lynch, John Norum sound.... cheers.

  • @stanislavmigra
    @stanislavmigra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video and great showcase how Marshalls thru the years are very different, but also still Marshalls.
    The JTM45 has couple of sweet spots that were just briliant. Gunned with reverb and Les Paul? Thats my dream Blues sound

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very cool, I have a 1987x from the 1990's that has been a wonderful amplifier, I highly recommend as it has forever changed my playing for the better.
    Great content, Thank You

  • @stevebassett7202
    @stevebassett7202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    28:51 is now my go-to when I need a calming, zen-level of relief from a stressful day... thank you Mick and Dan for that (most of the TPS sessions qualify, btw)

  • @tomshoemaker662
    @tomshoemaker662 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve rewatched this episode several times for a variety of reasons, but Dan’s face at 34:12…no better marketing for Marshall can be done than his expression right at that moment!!

  • @chrisanderson9331
    @chrisanderson9331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those clean tones from the amps are brilliant. The spank sound from the tele just hits the soul

    • @chrisanderson9331
      @chrisanderson9331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just to add that JTM with the strat no pedals was the best sound I have ever heard and that is now my sound goal

  • @DelReiRock
    @DelReiRock ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice video. Love you, guys!
    For my taste, there is no jumping channels. Only High input on 7. That’s pure rock n roll. Just a perfect ACDC tone.

  • @lennybrowntooth5009
    @lennybrowntooth5009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Slight correction: the 5F6-A Bassman used a 12AY7 in V1, not a 12AT7. That 12AY7 was often swapped for a 12AX7, which increases the gain and sounds closer to a JTM 45. The reissue Bassman ships with a 12AX7 in V1.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Oops. Thanks Lenny. I know this, how did I get that wrong!? Argh!

  • @theolderbrother
    @theolderbrother 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have the 1987x with all effects in front, plugged into low normal, but jumped. With the bright channel barely on and normal around two-three. Amazing clean sound with headroom and works super with the broadcast and even with a RAT.

  • @VedranDakic1
    @VedranDakic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Never been much of a Marshall fan as most of their amps was a bit too fizzy for me. My journey "back" to Marshall started a couple of years ago when I bought Victory Sheriff 44 after hearing it on one of your shows. Just liked the way it sounded and still do - it's a kick-ass Marshally-amp without being way-too Marshally. JTM is a completely different beast. I treated myself to it roughly a year ago. Played it, did some due dilligence, checked some of your 1987X videos, heard you mention it more than a few times over the years, checked reviews from some other channels and decided to pull the plug. And the rest is history - it's a spectacularly good amp. Easy to get a fantastic clean sound and that Marshall OD. Works well with pedals, and any guitar I plug into it sounds fab without too much fiddling. And this comes from a Boogie fan - I like Mesa-type fiddling :) Don't care about the "old Marshalls are better" snobism - JTM45 is a kick-a%% good amp. And it's not crazy-expensive, which is a plus. 1987X is just a bit too-Marshally (brash) for me. Although that has its uses, of course :) This video is a perfect description why I like JTM45 so much - it has everything that it needs to have, and it's controllable and user friendly :-)

  • @mrt7476
    @mrt7476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Both great amps, but I’ll take the 1987 any day of the week. Why? It has something no other amp has (let’s call it “Marshallness”), whereas the JTM45 is… well, a beefed up Fender. Great playing gentlemen, thank you for that! 👍👏👏👏

  • @marekgitarzysta5193
    @marekgitarzysta5193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is something extremely satisfying about Marshall tone, the way it crunches, cleans - for me a desert island amp would be some kind of Marshall for sure. I love all makes, but if I'm pressed to choose this would be a Marshall

  • @scottw9732
    @scottw9732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great as always, guys. That JTM blew me away with it's cleans.

  • @johnpierson8398
    @johnpierson8398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am thrilled to see this episode on TPS! I have been a fan of your show for years. And I love pedals and how much I have learned from you about them. I hope you will include these amplifiers in more or your pedal demos. There are a great number of people who love these Marshall amps. Your expertise with pedals that sound great with these two different Marshall amps will be a valuable insight for TPS fans Thank you for this video!

  • @ro307805
    @ro307805 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was incredibly lucky to buy a 1966 jtm50t in Wurzburd Germany in 1987. Best amp I've heard to this day.

  • @thorpyfx2679
    @thorpyfx2679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great historical context, fantastic tones! Thanks for making my Friday evening full of Bletchley’s finest.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers Thorpy! Hope the move is going well geezer!

    • @thorpyfx2679
      @thorpyfx2679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatPedalShow great thanks, slowly but surely.

  • @rhesreeves5339
    @rhesreeves5339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As someone who's played professionally for 40 years you'd think I'd know this but I never had a Marshall and I always wondered what the real difference was. People were thinking it was all gain and no headroom. You guys always cut through the myth and common belief and I KNEW you would teach me the difference FINALLY. I was gonna get a Wangs 2204 now I'm not so sure. Great show once again. Thanks from Ga USA!

    • @thorpenator9148
      @thorpenator9148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Marshall's have some of the best clean tones around. I am playing out of a 80-s JCM800. And it is earvana.

    • @severebash9153
      @severebash9153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I feel weird telling this to someone who has played professionally for 40 years as I have played for only a paltry 12
      But if you can find a DSL40CR with the Celestion Creamback, it’s one of the best, reasonably priced clean tones of a tube amp I’ve heard. There’s like four gainier channels on it and I’ve never used anything other than the clean, it’s that good.

    • @Adrin1117
      @Adrin1117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Marshall really doesn't get the credit they deserve when it comes to clean sounds. And take it from a fellow Georgian, you've got to own at least one Marshall in your lifetime!

    • @watersnortmoment3734
      @watersnortmoment3734 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@severebash9153 People love to bash the DSL15, but it's clean channel sounds fucking beautiful when cranked. It may not be all the way to a plexi, but I think it sounds incredible with a greenback, or a g12t75 for a little extra top end sizzle.

  • @funkyfeedbackband3035
    @funkyfeedbackband3035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work. My 1987X reissue gives my JCM800 a run for it's money. Definitely loves pedals in the front of it. EVH brown sound for sure.

  • @douglasbyrd6338
    @douglasbyrd6338 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    About a yr ago I bought a blackflag jtm50 with el34 but it has the rectifier tube. It's like a cross between both of these amps. The and is clean up to about midway on the volume. I play it on about 6. It does have a post phase inverter master volume mod which I run about 3/4 . I also use a graphic eq set flat for a boost which sends the amp over the edge nicely. It's hard to describe its magic but everywhere I go people just can't believe how good it sounds. The cleans are so full of harmonic content and anything you push it with is just unreal

  • @jackdeth5009
    @jackdeth5009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These two guys are pure class, thanks for that 😀

  • @sorinbanoiu7259
    @sorinbanoiu7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The best Marshall is a fenderish one 😜
    The JTM45 just amazing !!!

  • @Sensates85
    @Sensates85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys need a permanent JTM45 in your vids man (especially with that Goldtop). That LP > reverb > JTM45 tone was bliss!

  • @jerrywatt6813
    @jerrywatt6813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 50 w 1968 plxi head that I've had for 40 years and it's bone stock 'I have other Marshall's but I think the 1987 is the best one of the bunch 'and it's a perfect pedal Amp as well but prices are spiking I'm 70 now and I'm thinking of selling 'man it's going to be tough 'cheers guys you rock !

    • @sthengr
      @sthengr ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me know if you decide to sell.

  • @SomeKindOfMadman
    @SomeKindOfMadman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Epic upload. Made my Friday a glorious one. Thank you and much love from California. Cheers lads!
    : )

  • @Laoboy9
    @Laoboy9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome show! I think clean marshall thing is incredible. Also the room reverb was epic.

  • @rainman5034
    @rainman5034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want both! Seriously though, Mick sums it up perfectly. They're all different and everything is a result of continued product development, and thank goodness for that or we'd be nowhere and channels like this would zero raison d'etre. Amazing show Leg-ends.

  • @neilesewell
    @neilesewell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video! I had a 1962 Bluesbreaker 2x12 reissue for years that I loved but just became too heavy to lug around to gigs. Years later, I've now picked up a Studio Vintage 20W Head and 1x12 Greenback cab, which I've put KT66s in (the amp is Cathode biased) and it's a lovely half-way house between my old Bluesbreaker and the original 'Plexi' stock tone.

  • @Richtone85
    @Richtone85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Johan Segeborn did a demo years ago of the current vs old JTM45 Bluesbreaker. The old speakers were 95% of the difference if I remember correctly. I need to go watch it now. Loved this video!

    • @Peter-ff1tp
      @Peter-ff1tp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The “Bluesbreaker” moniker refers only to the 2x12 combo Clapton used on Beano. Not all JTM45.

  • @bmp-2267
    @bmp-2267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was so good I didn't want it to end.

  • @incubism
    @incubism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was jamming along with you guys on my Blues Breaker.
    It's a sound to love the JTM45

  • @SJCameron89
    @SJCameron89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first non practice amp was a Marshall MG100*** head that I had on a 4x4 ampeg cab. That thing was fun. This was circa 2005? two years later I sold it for a Hot Rod Deluxe that was in fantastic condition for a lovely price of $400.

  • @dreamscuba
    @dreamscuba 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great comparison. Depending on the settings, I liked the tones from
    Both. Thanks.

  • @BlueSkyDogs
    @BlueSkyDogs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe that in the first TPS fuzz episode you used an old jtm45. In a custom case! That is still one of my favourite episodes and sounds ever. One day I will have a 45. Great show gentlemen. B

  • @IronSwan-ll5ju
    @IronSwan-ll5ju ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched this video a few times before purchasing my 1987x and 1936v cab and now a deeper dive now I own the head and looking for tips and tricks! Thank you guys soooo much for the information and guidance!!

  • @EJBGuitar
    @EJBGuitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mick/Dan…just about time for a new “our guitars” video…brief rundown of each guitar, short story of where it came from and why it’s a keeper! 🙏🏻🤞🏻👍🏻

  • @hoefbert
    @hoefbert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I rewatched the video now for the 3rd time. I own a handwired Linnemann M45 with KT66 and the clean tone of this thing takes your head of. There is so much more headroom than the JTM45 has. If someone ever gets the chance playing a Linnemann then go for it!

  • @hobbybobley
    @hobbybobley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic video, gents! Extremely interesting re: the 1987x! I owned a '60's JTM45 for a while and it was probably the best amp I have ever owned, despite some of the internals not being original! It still sound EXTREMELY CREAMY!
    Could you possibly do a video on the JTM45 as predominantly a pedal platform, and then maybe get Luke Caley (from Press to MECO) in to chat about his JTM45 and how he uses it as a pedal platform?
    Looking forward to many more vids about these two brilliant amps! Thanks chaps! 😀

  • @alessandrodecarli2462
    @alessandrodecarli2462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another smashing video! Guys, you are so good at "telling" the things that happen to you that it is always a huge pleasure to listen to you, even if I am Italian and sometimes I lose a few words along the way! 😂 And I often dream of being on stage with one of your Line-Ups or with your pedalboard and simply with a couple of beasts like today! I was lucky enough to try for a couple of times a pair of “real” mid-70s Plexis owned by my luthier, and together, in stereo and cranked up to 2 volume, they shook the whole stage! Luckily it was an outdoor performance! 🤣🤣 But you are absolutely right: the JTMs make you dream, in any situation you want to place them and make you want to always send them to 10! Thank you so much for your dedication, you have been my only reference for at least 6 years! I love you!❤️

  • @timotejskokan2068
    @timotejskokan2068 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We want more JTM45 and Teleeees. It Rocks! 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸

  • @VacuumTubes
    @VacuumTubes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you do the Bassman vs JTM 45, make sure you try both through the same cab, and also with the v1 swapped to the same 12AY7. Very similar at that point. Speaker speaker speaker.

  • @ΠασχάληςΤσαλιάφας
    @ΠασχάληςΤσαλιάφας 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grandpa is loving the tones!

  • @Amish_Trivedi
    @Amish_Trivedi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know you've warned us for years that things on YT etc don't sound like they really do but I'm surprised by how much I'm loving the 1987x today. I think I had never heard it and the JTM45 sort of side by side and it's rather wonderful!

  • @Bluesbreaker-uf8ti
    @Bluesbreaker-uf8ti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome vid guys!
    I've bought and sold the Marshall Studio Vintage 3 times. Super cool amp but was just always battling trying to tame that bright channel. Got the JTM 45 about a year ago, absolutely love it. I don't even jumper channels because I don't think the high channel is that bright. Had master volume mod put in but rarely use it.

  • @stevebees3992
    @stevebees3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've had my JTM45 Reissue for 12 years now, and I still love it. Set as you had it as a clean platform (pretty much exactly the same settings), I get everything else from my pedalboards. I was fortunate enough to be able to pair it with a mid 70's Vibroverb in a blues/rock band I played in a few years ago, and what a glorious noise! One day I'd like to pair it with an AC30. Every time I think I need to replace it, I plug it in and remind myself what an awesome amp it is.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lovely lovely lovely Steve. That’s the shizzle!

  • @duncancartledge1667
    @duncancartledge1667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve needed this video all my life, just never knew it.

  • @slideguitarist
    @slideguitarist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video gents! For a real treat, I suggest you try plugging into both top inputs using a Y-cable rather than jumpering, like Duane Allman and Eric Johnson. One must then rethink the amp settings as compared to jumpering. But it sounds heavenly, especially without the bright cap. I find that bright caps have a huge effect on plexi tone, even at very high volume settings. I know the conventional wisdom is that bright caps have almost no effect once you turn up the volume controls. My personal experiments show otherwise. I have a custom made plexi with a 3 way bright cap switch: two flavors of bright caps and total bypass in the center. I can say from experience, even with the volumes near 9, switching in a bright cap really transforms the plexi tone. It increases gain but it adds those shrill ice pick highs. So even cranked, taking out the bright cap profoundly tames the ear-piercing highs in a plexi.

  • @Minnaarsarelovers
    @Minnaarsarelovers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JTM45 for me there. I’ve been a fender amp user for longer than I care to remember, but recently bought a bluesbreaker after being blown away by one at a rehearsal space. Had to have one, despite having written Marshall’s off for being too fizzy and glassy for years. Incredible things. Has relegated my twin to second place.

  • @JM_Welch
    @JM_Welch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I was eagerly awaiting this. I’ve been using a twin reverb with a JTM45 (wet-dry) for a little while now and loving it. I look forward to seeing/hearing you guys use it to great effect in the future.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jase, just want to take a minute to feel the love for the phrase “I’ve been using a twin reverb with a JTM45 (wet-dry)”
      I mean come on! In 2022 this is important work. Politicians could learn from you. This is basically public service. Thank you. From the bottom of our hearts, THANK YOU

    • @JM_Welch
      @JM_Welch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThatPedalShow haha, thank you guys, everything I have learned is through your show! I’m currently doing a service to convert my brother over to analogue pedals (and tempt him away from his nova system) as he has amazing taste in amps, he runs a bluesbreaker and a 1959 SLP plexi in stereo. I don’t know if I’d be much help to the politicians, I’m a shit liar and as transparent as a lightspeed!

  • @MikelBluni
    @MikelBluni 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rewatched today. Such a treat this video. Dan‘s playing is phenomenal in this video. Around the 30 minute mark I hear strong Jeff Buckley style chords and sounds and when Dan grabs the SG Junior….outstanding, really. By the way…I’m about to get a JTM45 again in addition to my 1987x. There’s some magic in both that justifies having both 😉✌️🎸💯☮️

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah, cheers mate

  • @duncancartledge1667
    @duncancartledge1667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So,
    I have the hand wired JTM45 and there is definitely some cross over between the 2 channels. Running the volume 1 ( treble channel) with nothing plugged into Volume 2 there is some effect when the volume on 2 is blended in. Maybe something to do with it having tremolo?
    You can also get a very subtle tremolo when running both channels bridged.
    For my money , although it’s considered a classic match, the G12Ms aren’t my favourite speaker and I much prefer G12H speakers for firming up the bass plus a more balanced speaker. Also a great amp with V30s , firmer bass and more focus in mids and upper range - well worth a try.

  • @ikbogle
    @ikbogle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been looking forward to this since mentioned on vcq. Thanks guys have a great weekend 🤘🏻

  • @imanalien2222
    @imanalien2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If using a treble booster IMO it’s best to only play thru the normal channel…. and fantastically tasteful playing by the two of you! Really enjoyed this one.

  • @jarrusjenkins
    @jarrusjenkins ปีที่แล้ว

    34:06 that sound......
    Omg that is glorious!
    Im a metal guy predominately but that old Pexi roar.... man that has some giant stones!!

  • @tommyraper3895
    @tommyraper3895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved it, something I wanted to see, thanks fellas! I need a JTM 45!

  • @gravebathers5433
    @gravebathers5433 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow you are both such talented players, and after all the detail in that video, I still don't know which one I like better! incredible pair of amps.

  • @evanmiller2579
    @evanmiller2579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thought I would maybe prefer the JTM in this one but preferred the Plexi. I thought the Les Paul into it when the Tele was clean was such a great tone. Well done. I am always reminded that the jangly intro on INXS "Need You Tonight" is a Marshall. They do sound glorious cranked up though. Thank you for all you do.

    • @quoimagueule628
      @quoimagueule628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      did you prefer plexi? but which one? because they are both plexi

  • @counterbalancelife4305
    @counterbalancelife4305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like these two. Low key and no fluff. Nice playing too. I too thought I'd prefer the JTM, but by the time the 1987 was cranking, it was all over.

  • @Penberth1
    @Penberth1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to hear mention of Ken and Dudley, more often than not they don't get their due doff of the cap in such history lessons. Good work sir.

  • @danmist
    @danmist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It'd be interesting to see you check out the two channels on a JCM800. I've been using the clean channel on the 20w and 100w ones, paired with something else and they're great with my pedals, especially a Colorsound Overdriver and an RC booster.

    • @paulcowart3174
      @paulcowart3174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi gain input is too fizzy on my old 800 so keen to use the other w a good pedal or too

  • @AndyCooper761
    @AndyCooper761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know it’s all about Marshall amps today, but I’m enjoying hearing Mick giving the bendy-stick on his Strat some gentle wiggling with some of that reverb. Sounds gorgeous.

  • @ProfVonW
    @ProfVonW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video sets the gold standard for amp A-B shootouts.

  • @lookmanostrings
    @lookmanostrings ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these videos so much. The only thing that would make it perfect is the drummer test. Take these tones at stage level and play in the mix. Once the drummer starts, every single time, the whole room changes.

  • @chaz32
    @chaz32 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    just got a new jtm 45 with a soldano 2x12 baby blue coloured baltic birch and wicker cab... what a sound!

  • @2stroke556
    @2stroke556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JTM45…best sound I’ve had out of it is all knobs cranked with the exception of Bass on 0. Perfection.

  • @jukkahoppania3847
    @jukkahoppania3847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unbelievable sound from both of the amps!

  • @toddmiller508
    @toddmiller508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent episode. I have been torn between these two amps for some time. I recently decided to go with a studio vintage. Now I’m back to square one.

  • @andsoistopped
    @andsoistopped 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was so busy there I forgot it was Friday. For half a second I really thought Dan was going to play the opening bars of U2’s Desire.

  • @tonymoore78
    @tonymoore78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phenomenal tones from both amps, and phenomenal playing from both of you in this episode! The ‘clean tone indulgence’ from Dan was superb, and then it was followed up by fantastic rock playing from Mick. Loved it!

  • @wolfganghuber3616
    @wolfganghuber3616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks so much for showing us all the different sounds of both amps. I think many guitar players will never get the chance to play and try those vintage amps. Most loved sound for me - Dan with the SG Junior playing over the JTM 45 and the DS 1. Man....what a fat but clear sound. Beats many modern High gain amps. But what about your ears, Dan? You don´t need to save them like Mick? Greetings from Bavaria Wolfgang

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dan has plugs in all the way through today! Thanks Wolfgang!

  • @willdenham
    @willdenham ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have builds of both (actually JTM50 with tube rec) and your right, not much headroom on the 87X, especially with meaty humbuckers. It gives classic overdrive at around 4 or 5. They are so different, the Tele is great through the Lead with bass all the way up.

  • @GuillaumeVrac
    @GuillaumeVrac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JTM45 for clean and Clapton’s crunch tone, 1987X for 70s rock and hard rock tones 🤘 🔊

    • @mobydick3895
      @mobydick3895 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you have nailed a description succinctly. You will want both amps if you can have them!

  • @paulthebeardedonedowning6820
    @paulthebeardedonedowning6820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that was brilliant you fellas got some amazingly beautiful sounds outta them things

  • @JonDoe-wb1qo
    @JonDoe-wb1qo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan's 'indulgement' solo ...very nice!

  • @albertoalvarenga6037
    @albertoalvarenga6037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I recently got a Marshall Super Lead Plexi amp, and I'm still learning what it's capable of giving. One of the things one does is isolate each knob in the tone stack, to test the sweep of it's response. I tested the mid knob, so I had the bass and treble set to zero, and when I got the mids knob to 10, I was like holy shit there it is, there's THE hot-rodded Marshall overdrive sound that really defines that amp, proving it's all about the mids. You cut the bass to keep it tight and defined, you roll off the treble to keep it from peeling the skin off your face, and since its shifted to upper mids you still get plenty of clarity on top of punch. Now I'm scouring to get a Celestion greenback and a tubescreamer to spike the mids even further. Love the Marshall filth.

    • @221b-l3t
      @221b-l3t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Creambacks are more mid pronounced Greenbacks are more low end and high end. Can't go wrong with either or both. I will go for half and half, X pattern. I found a 60s looking 412 with Greenbacks for 500€, now I just need an old looking cab with Creambacks (I got one though in my DSL401) and swap half the speakers. Some people think it's too much, Plexi is mid focused, as is Creamback and same goes for a TS. So all three can be a bit much. Definetly experiment with having the tone knob on the ts pretty far down, it gives you back some of the bass it would usually cut.

    • @221b-l3t
      @221b-l3t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also some only use the bright channel. Like Yngwie Malmsteen, he uses only the bright channel with a DOD250 as a drive. He uses G12T75s though, 200 W cabs. Not my thing but you can't argue with his tone.

  • @andrewcampbell204
    @andrewcampbell204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh it’s good to have you back in Marshall land gents. Great show 👏

  • @juhaimmonen
    @juhaimmonen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality content! Loved the details in comparison AND would love to see 1959 in the same way. I think the internet deserves that.

  • @EWhite-95
    @EWhite-95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like to think that the thumbnail isn't Mick protecting his ears but he's blocking out the sound of someone saying their multi-effects can do just as good. Love the show

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha! No it’s the high treble channel on the 1987x when it’s not cranked. Eeeuwwwww

  • @Annunaki_0517
    @Annunaki_0517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sound of a Strat through the 1987x is absolutely beautiful. The most striking thing is the difference between a single coil and a humbucker into the Plexi. Such a difference in tone. For me, this is my favorite thing about the Plexi.

  • @yeshueya3812
    @yeshueya3812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely wonderful. Yes please do a Bassman vs. JTM 45 with Tube Screamer or Boss SD-1 and Boss DS-1 as well… in the same way BUT + Band with Doug please

  • @i8ittoo
    @i8ittoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always good boys .
    Just purchased a marshall sv20h. And so far loving it.

  • @marshallgibson8872
    @marshallgibson8872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 1979 2204 and I use a ds1 infront and keep the pedal fairly low gain just to add a tad bit to what the amp already does. Sounds awesome. That p90 sings!!

  • @67er_matze97
    @67er_matze97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    absolutely stellar episode!! 👍
    if you have a chance to do that I would love to see an episode on how these classic marshall amps would compare to a more modern variant like Friedman Dirty Shirley or Twin Sister. Just my suggestion in case you'd have a chance to access one of these.
    All the best to you guys for 2023. And thanks for your amazing work for us musicians !!

  • @franknguitars7671
    @franknguitars7671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The JTM45 is what my ears want to hear. Higher gain is always achievable with pedals. Nice video - thanks so much 🙏