The Marshall PLEXI SOUND -vs- the Fender TWEED SOUND
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- I'm comparing and combining the most classic guitar sounds; the Fender Tweed sound and the Marshall Plexi sound. I'm using a 2007 Fender '57 (5E3) Deluxe Amp with an original 1960 Jensen P12N speaker and a 2021 Fender Custom Shop Telecaster 1960 Relic. The 2008 Marshall 18W (1974X) has an original 1968 G12M25 75Hz Greenback and I play it with a 1973 Gibson Les Paul Custom. These are two amazing but also very different sounding rigs. Combined they sound HUGE!!!
This channel is actually really important work for us guitarheads. I always reverence here, when shopping for tones
Makes my day to hear that!
Best AB testing of vintage and reissue amps cabs in he most “scientific” way possible for us guitar guys. Agree, this is an absolutely invaluable reference resource and also always fun and funny to watch. Thank you Johan ✅💯🙌
Strange diction you use.
@JoeandAngie People often say that. I dictate they way I do because, I've read so many books written abstract-ly. I know words but my grammar sucks.
I just noticed you hit over 100k followers. I'm so happy for you Johan. You're videos have been providing years of fun for me and I appreciate what you do.
Thanks Steve! Makes my day to hear that!
Two tone mountains climbed. Sounded even better combined 🙌
Thanks Eddie!
"A bit too casually clothed"? But we've been used to it for the last 10 years or so. :D
😂 I know
I like the Tele. I find myself playing mine more these days. More than my Les Pauls or Strats. Funny. I only have one Tele. No back-up. The amps are doing it. Thanks Johan.
Thanks, yeah Tele is such an articulate guitar. I love Les Paul but it’s narrower in its application to me if metal is excluded
Both together is the BOMB. Thanks Johan!
Johan is all of us vintage tone-heads. It just so happens that he has access to all the real-deal stuff and can play loud instead of trying to emulate that stuff on small combos and modelers in the basement (talking about a friend 😂)
Yeah I’m having a ridiculous amount of fun around here
It's beautiful how the different tones complemenst each other!
Another wonderful offering Johan. I love the tweed sound but as my collection reflects, Marshall just gotta thang!
Thanks! Glad to hear it!
Greetings from California Johan!
Your review of the Marshall 1974x led me to a Marsh Amp clone of that amp - loaded with a G12 65watt speaker - that has now become my favorite amp of all time keep up the good work my friend
Thanks my friend! Grear to hear that!
Thanks for this video Johan! Great tones here! The Les Paul and Marshall combination reminds me the tone that Eric Clapton got on John Mayall's "Beano" Blues Breakers album in 1966.
Thanks! Glad to hear it!
Congratulations on the 100k subs Johan! Thanks for all your time and effort, much appreciated.
Thanks! Really glad to hear that!
If ever I’m having a bad day, I just come here & hang with Johan. Then all is well in my world.
Thanks my friend, makes my day to hear that!
If anyone can find a better amp channel than this please let me know. This video is so freaking awe. Thanks Johan 🙏🎸😎🎸🙏
I really appreciate this format of videos, your honesty and playing. Tack så mycket, Johan!
Tack! Gott att höra
1974x is my favourite and has been my go to for 10 or so years. Looks I need to add a 5e3 to the fold like have been meaning to for years. Thanks for another amazing demo!
Great stuff as usual. You had me at nearly the full band mix. Both amps sound amazing. God bless and rock on 🎸
Thanks my friend, rock on!
Congrats on hitting 100K
Great Content Johan, Thank You
Thanks, glad you like the videos!
They both sound incredible and compliment each other.
Thanks Corey!
You consistently give me the videos and info and sounds I crave. Thank you!! :D
Thanks! So good to hear that!
Nice sounds, thanks Johan!
Thanks! Glad you like them
That's alot of fun again brother. Nice job
Thanks brother!
great job demoing these amps, I know it must be challenging to set up and record but you really get to play through and document amazing amps! Love it, Johan.Keep up the great work!
Thanks Mark! It’s a labour of love
Hey Johan. Congrats to 100k Subscribers. Now i love your channel even more. 😊✌🏻
It's like comparing rice and pasta. Different but delicious, and equally necessary to combine with life. Thanks Johan. By the way, a very cool place you've chosen to film. New one? Best.
Thanks Neil! It’s the same rehearsal space actually. Just changed the layout. Cheers
congrats man on 100k subs! you really deserve it, loved the video, I think I prefer the tweed it's more open where as the plexi is more compressed
Thanks Ben! I’m glad you like it.
Another excellent video John
Thanks! Glad you like it
I live for these. Thanks for the vid.
Cheers.
Thanks! So good to hear that! Cheers
Wow great tones from both!
Thanks! Glad to hear it!
I've made both of these amps from scratch but for whatever reason it did not occur to me that I should try them together! Thanks for the short video... off to my studio I go!
Glad to hear it! I was late to that party too 😆
Just beautiful! All of it! Especially the playing!
Thanks my friend! Hope you’re doing well in the south!
@@JohanSegeborn The south is great!
Love it when you play drums.
Two great amplifiers. I have built both. The Feder is a little mushyer but that can be a good thing. Almost the same circuit. Great demo Johan.
Aloha and cheers from Hawaii ❤
Aloha Darrell! Glad you like it ❤️
Both are the deal! I’m very fortunate to have both in my sound. Send via stereo the signal of my pedalboard and the breakup sound is amazing… the tweed has some creamy and smooth vibes, and the plexi gives that British valve dirty sound that all we know… love the tone…
Great video once again Johan. When it comes to crunch I think Marshall has no match.
Thanks! Glad to hear it
Which current speakers would offer a similar sound to those Jenssen Vintage Speakers? By the way this is the TONE channel. Learning a lot by listening your stuff.
I'd rather take both than missing one ❤😂. Thanks Johan for Your never ending enthusiasm.
Thanks Markus! ❤️
Excellent video! I've always liked humbucker-equipped guitars with Marshall amps and single coil-equipped guitars with Fender amps. Of course, there are a few exceptions, e.g. Joe Bonamassa and Jimi.
Thanks Mark!
Gibson/Marshall is my preference, but Fender/Fender is so great too. This sound is 60+ years old (like myself), and there still nothing better (although 1959 and 2203 have their role as well).
Thanks Johan for this steady stream of tone!
Thanks Bengt!
They both sound brilliant!😃🤘😎👍
Thanks glad to hear it!
now this is content! when that plexi kicked in it was instant zep in the best way possible
Great to hear that! 🤘
Aloha Johan! Yes I'll take one each. I always liked running a Fender and Marshall at together.
Aloha Victor!
I think you're doing an amazing job, giving us the opportunity to listen to important guitar amp sounds in your channel. Thank you very much.
I have one suggestion. In this video we unfortunately hear too much room sound, which limits the experience of hearing the amp sounds. I see that at least one of your room walls is covered with isolation material, rock wool, so it's probably about the mic. If you could use a dynamic mic facing the amp instead, we would hear a lot more amp sound. Another option would be to use a condenser mic as you do here and switch it to either heart-shaped (cardioid) or narrow heart-shaped (hyper-cardioid) reception pattern.
Both are iconic tones and sound awesome! :)
Thanks glad to hear it
Together sounds amazing man. You know your stuff. I like them both individually as well but how can’t a guitar player when they recognize some sweet riffing
When I'm jamming with the guys, I daisy chain both and the combination of the sound is about as close to perfect as I've ever heard. Buckers or single coil.....rock n roll brothers and sisters
I actually prefer Marshall amps for their clean/edge of breakup sounds, and I think the Fender Tweed Deluxe has the greatest distorted amp sound of all time.
Very smooth breakup
why my ABY pedal is the most important pedal in the lineup .. as far as I'm concerned the Marshall / Fender amp combo is THE tone ... History proven in fact
Glad to hear it!
After having countless Fenders and some Marshalls, if I had to take only two desert island amps, it would be a 1959 (into greens) and a 60's blackface deluxe reverb (into a Jenson). I have a feeling that if combined properly, you can 'almost' get a tweed vibe. :) Thanks Johan for the great comparison!
Thanks! Yeah much of the Tweed tone comes from the vintage Jensens
it's incredible how a tele sounds so fuzzy on a cranked tweed, and the LP sounds so clear and punchy through the el 34's.
I love Marshall amps as much as the next player, I have owned many over the years and currently own two {JTM-45 head and a JMP 50 head}. But never forget, there would have never been a James Marshall unless there had been a Leo Fender first. Love my tweed Deluxe too!
Balls to the wall ! I prefer the tweed in this one :)
Thanks!
My current set up is a hand wired boutique 5E3 (Clark Beaufort) and a hand wired Vox AC15 (HW60). I use a Lele box to split the signal for a quasi wet/dry set up. I say Quasi, because do have my Memory Man going the dry signal (the MM preamp is part of the sound, along with a Hotcake). It's amazing the contrast in hugeness when these amps are combined. I think I'm somewhere between 2 and 3 on the Tweed and less than halfway on the Vox and that's about as loud as I want to be with my band (drummer, bass, keyboards). Played separately, I think I would need to crank them and they would barely keep up if at all. BTW, I think I've mentioned in one or more of your videos in the past, but I really want that 18 watt Plexi one of these days. In fact, that's what I was after, but came across a good deal on the Vox. That seems to scratch the British itch for now, (plus I have the HW60 AC30... which is even better, but currently not turning on for some reason... not sure if it's a tube or a fuse or what...)
I just A/B both these amps in the studio dimed on my track - the shakers - collly
It sounds incredible and wil be my live rig too
This was truely great!!!!
Thanks glad to hear it!
cannot deny both are great and both have there place
Thanks Robert! Glad to hear it
PLEASE, do a “100W super lead with greenbacks v. evm 12L”. I love your channel 🫡
Thanks! That’s a great idea. Haven’t done those back to back yet actually
I love that Marshall!!! They are both great. But that Marshall does it for me!
Great sounds!!!
Hi, Johan! How are you, my friend? Glad to see you, like allways! Awesome video! See you!
S.
Hi Siegfried! I’m fine thanks. Hope you are too. Sorry about the hiatus. Hopefully we’ll be back normal posting soon. Cheers my friend!
Love the playing classic!
Marshall has the meat and cuts thru like Jimmy.
It overshadows the Tweed when combined.
Thanks!
Yeah the combined track sounds mainly like the Marshall but so much warmer
Love them both but, knowing me, I'd end up with Tele/Deluxe setup.
Thanks! Yeah it’s so much richer sounding than the Marshall but the Marshall is cooler
Both amps are awesome😊
Thanks glad to hear that!
both sound great. Speaker is mostly for difference.
Marshall cuts thru a bit better. mixed is awesome.
Thanks! Yeah definitely mainly Greenback vs Jensen
Hey Johan, i'm torn between the Supro Black Magick, and the Supro Statesman amps. I already have the 2x12 cab, big fan of Page, Kossoff early Cream, etc. Any thoughts? The Statesman has 2 preamps etc, Class A and AB, and effects loop with Volume control on the send and recieve, so it can act like attenuation. Just wondering which you would choose for this type of tone?
As good as the Fender setup sounds, you are clearly a Les Paul player and I am very partial the the Marshal sound so the Plexi setup sounds incredible to my ears!!
Thanks! Yeah I’m kind of playing Les Paul riffs on the Tele as well. Simon usually takes care of the Fender duties around here
@@JohanSegeborn I understand!! You Johan, have missed your calling. You should have been a famous guitarist in a touring band in the early 1970's!! Your pick attack, your approach, your groove is all there. Great work!!
Hola amigo, gran video!!!! Qué opinas del marshall studio vintage 20w combo?
Gracias! I’ll demo the 20W combo first chance I get
Whow 🫢 , the difference in sound !
Tweed + Telecaster for me 👍
Great comparaison ! Both is the best combination ! But I think that the "original" sound of a tweed is a Buddy Holly solo 😅. Another classic soud is Strat + AC30 ala Hank Marvin.
Thanks! Indeed!
Nice job!
Thanks!
Awesome tone again... Killer.. and where are the Crocs sir? 🤣
Thanks! Glad to hear it! 😂
Nice upload king.👍🙏❤🌹🌹
Thanks! Glad you like it!
I have a ceriatone big deluxe head. It is a 5e3 with 6l6 and larger transformer i think it's 20 watts instead of 12 . I had gig where i played before my friend i used a single green back . I left my amp on stage and my friend has a jmp 50 with 2 green back cab . So he used both amp . They where both going through front of house. My friend was on the desk . He took the jmp out of the mix then swapped . brought it back in and took out the deluxe. Could hardly tell them apart. Sounded very similar. Must have been the green backs.
Yeah indeed! The speakers are the most significant difference by far
This man literally plays his Marshalls balls out! \m/ \m/
Hahaha! It was actually the feet that were blurred this time. I just record and forget that many people are gonna see it 😂
love the plexis with jensen ceramic, tweed with celestions, call me crazy
GOOD sounds! \m/
Thanks my friend
I’ve looked at a bunch of your Plexi/SV20 videos and I’m curious your opinion on something- I have a Tweed Bassman clone that has a master volume installed.. Do you think that amp gets me “close enough” to what a Marshall Plexi sounds like in the room.. or are they different enough tonally to justify having both? Seeking that aggressive but somewhat clean hollow/mid rangy Jimmy Page type tone once I find a keeper Les Paul.
Sounds amazing, I’ve never seen anybody mic a cab a couple of feet back before, is there a name for that? Which mic are you using?
Looking forward to Johan revealing his lower legs. And, a good clip as always. Thanks.
Thanks! 😂
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day also I subscribed to the channel also Wednesday is my younger brother birthday ❤😊
Lol
Thanks I’m so glad to hear that! ❤️ Congratulations to your brother! 🎂
Hi Johan! Hope all is well, you're channel is my go-to for guitar stuff on TH-cam, I was wondering, do you have a preference between the DSL20CR vs the DSL40CR? I'd rather have the higher wattage option but if the 20 sounds significantly better, I'd pick that up! Cheers from Seattle ☮️
Finally you got over 100k following! Should have happened years ago imho!
Thanks my friend!
@@JohanSegeborn you're welcome sir!
Johan, I’m intrigued - are all these videos that you record with such loud amps and drums done at a home studio location? It seems sometimes you might be recording deep down in a dungeon somewhere to avoid nice spill! Curious about your recording set up to avoid angry neighbours and noise spill in the house.
Love your work!
Hi! Thanks glad you like the channel. I’m never recording anything at home without significant attenuation. 99% of the videos are recorded in my rehearsal space or in Simon’s store. In Sweden we have a lot of rehearsal spaces integrated in company or public buildings, which are tolerated. I think that’s one of the reasons there are relatively many Swedish bands and artists on the world stage given Sweden’s size
@@JohanSegebornwow! Thank you for that context Johan. That’s so helpful, and really explains a lot! Love your work.
What's the trick with the greenback in the 1974x? The one they put in the reissue is so bright and harsh on most guitars.
Fender tweed tone is spectacular
Thanks!
An interesting comparison of very pronounced differences in tone - will a lot of similarities, and no Hype !
Thanks glad to hear it!
What mics are you using to record the amps? Thank you.
love that pure raw sound, it reminds me of Joe Walsh
So glad to hear that! I love Joe Walsh!!
Is the reverb from the room or added in mix?
I'll take the Tweed anyday!!
Cheers!
Before watching this, I was sure the 1974X was going to outdo the 5E3...having had both at one time, or another. Nope! 5E3 for the win. Probably need to get another one now. Soon. Thank you Johan.
Thanks man! Yeah the 5E3 really needs the right speaker to shine
It's funny how a Swedish man has the most bluesy sound in the world, which is the most American sound.
Thanks man! Makes my day to hear that!
Not to mention the most Ace Frehley sound in many of his other videos. 🤗😋☺️
I did not expect the Tweed with the Tele to be more 'hi fi" than the Plexi LP combination - but it is.
Yeah wider frequency response for sure there
Now do a vid with the guitars swapped please! I always thought Gibson guitars sounded better with Fender amps and vice versa... but I really liked the all-Fender side here.
I play the Fender with the Les Paul here: The Greatest 1X12 Guitar Combo of all time - Fender ‘57 Deluxe TWEED
th-cam.com/video/dFQbYYBltiU/w-d-xo.html
Main difference for me is: Fender, bump in the 400-500 Hz region. Marshall, 1.5 KHz galore!
Yeah the 400-500 Hz region is great to fill out since so much else sounds bad there
Nice video
Thanks!
Hello, Johan!
Hi!
El 5e3 es tan sucio y orgánico al mismo tiempo, único e incomparable 😊😊
Gracias!
Johan wasn't wearing his tone crocs and had to blur it out. Totally understandable. Haha!!
Hahaha! They were close by waiting 😂
I had a real 56 tweed deluxe. I liked it but it distorts too early for me. I prefer the tweed bandmaster.
Yeah very limited headroom