Ducati MotoE First Look
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2022
- Chad's been to Italy for a closer look at the Ducati MotoE bike, for 2023 Ducati will be the sole supplier and partner to the FIM MotoE series.
We will hopefully be one of the first to ride the bike and it will be interesting to see what they can do with this technology. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Owned a few older ducati's that were famous for their electrical problems.......this could take them to another level.
VW/Audi nowadays
Lol
😂
Haha! True
old saying “since it is ducati, it is broken out of factory. ”
Sound is a significant factor for me especially in MotoGP. I don’t care too much if it’s faster than current combustion bikes if it’s silent down the straight.
you only hear the wind when youre going fast enough.
Why couldn't Ducati and Energica have competing bikes in MotoE? Would have been great to see these brands push each other. Especially with Triumph coming with their EV project.
Also, Lightning and Zero
No comparison Energica bikes weigh 270kg. It’s a small company that can’t compete. Of course you could run a Panigale V2 and you’d beat all the e bikes
I belive EVs would have benefitted from some competition in the class.
Also think it would be more interesting as a sport with a bit of variation in the field. Looks, technologies, and different solutions.
I agree. I think different manufacturers would've benefitted MotoE. No point for one manufacturer to compete against.... themselves.
Its definitely the first bike that's come along that's made me sit up and take notice. I see a few comments about the noise, or lack thereof but I'm sure they can pipe in something to make it more interesting. A Taycan passed me the other day with a V8 rumble. Overall though, if this is the first serious salvo into performance biking imagine what things might be like in 5 - 10 - 15 years? Should be good.
Hmmm yeah I'll take synthetic fuels instead thanks if Vettle can get a V10 F1 car to run on it I think the combustion engine has alot more to give
Looks amazing
Not much more positives
Great looks, but does it comes with a dry clutch conversion?😜
I live on the west coast in the county of Cumbria, during the IOM TT I can occasionally hear the racers screaming about the course(if weathers decent)simply by a couple mile trip on my MT-09. When E-bikes become the norm, guess who'll be sat home during the TT as I very much doubt these motors scream will carry the 35 miles across the sea.
Was interested in the comments here - 90%+ negative is not a surprise from petrol-heads like us, but I think people maybe miss the point. Racing is about R&D - it's a platform (not a product) for development. Elec is coming whether we like it or not - so this is a way for Ducati to be on the cutting edge of that. They made their bones in racing, they see the writing on the wall and they are simply doing it again. Good management - just ask BlackBerry.
Impressive engineering 👏 sadly electric motorcycles are useless for anything but short range commuting.
We have to start from something to achieve big things.
Combustion engine wasn"t very efficient in just a few decades, it took hundred of years to achieve where we are right now.
@@teteakhiangte6015 Electric cars exist for more than a hundred years.
Thousands drove on streets one hundred years ago.
The problem is battery size, battery weight and low stored battery energy when applied to motorcycles. No electric car brand has solved these problems hence they all still need huge heavy batteries and the more kWh a battery needs (power and range) the bigger it get's, Tesla Plaid weighs over 2 metric tons and still handles bad on race tracks (hence the slow lap times for 1000hp). Sports motorcycles cannot afford to have even bigger batteries (the Ducati is 224kg with all that carbon, and Energica over 240kg), no rider would ride a 300kg more powerful more range EV sports motorcycle, cruisers maybe. Maybe in the future huge bikes like the Rocket 3 will have huge powerful long range batteries. In the meantime the LS 218 is still probably the fastest and quickest EV bike in a straight line but still bad in cornering compard to her ICE lightweight counterparts (M1000RR weighs 196kg and the Carbon ICE Superpleggera V4 weighs 159kg not the enormous 224kg like this Carbon EV Ducati.)
@@THEREALZENFORCE please do more research indepth
@@teteakhiangte6015 You are the one that needs to do more research.
@@ProdicalMan LOL. 40+years phd in renewable resources OK
Im more impressed that you managed to say it'll be quicker than a panigale while keeping a straight face.
Yep drinking the kool aid
Can't wait to see Ducati moto E bike on a Next year's Moto E race. And can't wait to see Damon hypersport review by auto journalists next year.
This really is the future of race bike.
Yep, this is the future of unbeatable super bike performance. Folks unwilling to accept that will be left in the past, and the dust of these machines. The power of these motors (finally you can say motor and actually use the right terminology) is simply unreal. The amount of electronics required to keep the pilot from going to the moon is also unreal. Can't wait to see what the new evolution of racers pilot these crazy things.
U have fun on ur silent and rather boring bike, you clearly like performance which there's nothing wrong with that but these e-motorcycles don't have character so I'll be buying "old" motorcycles when the e-motorcycles become the norm.
problem is they'll ban them from all cities and tax you into submission.....its inevitable I'm afraid. @@drgunit893
Unfortunately the people reporting on this stuff don’t understand anything about the energy density issues associated with electric vehicles in general and motorcycles specifically. This thing costs a fortune, has the performance of a very heavy Panigale V2 but can on,y last 7 laps. I guess next year there is a good chance that the Ducati MotoE bikes will be faster than Moto3 which will be a step forward on the current bikes. Pirro says the motoE bike feels like a normal bike except for the noise but there is no way he can’t feel the extra 60kg plus of weight
Gotta start somewhere, props on their courage to undertake something so new.
Maybe the lack of rotating mass helps it feel lighter?
This take is ridiculous.
Do you think the GP3 was anywhere close to the GP22’s level of sophistication? The GP22 is the result of 20 years of development at Ducati specifically, and over 100 years of ICE motorcycle development in general.
Given the current capital investment in electric vehicles and the shift away from ICE, I’m pretty sure electric bikes will exceed the performance of current ICE motorcycles within the next 2 decades.
With improved infrastructure and changes in use patterns, road going models don’t necessarily have to match the energy density of gasoline either.
@@chadwells7562 your confidence is not supported by the reality. a GP22 is faster than a GP22 primarily due to electronics, tyres and aero development. Remember a GP3 already made 250hp. You can clearly see why you are wrong just by looking at the new e Ducati. A 110kg battery (it’s fuel tank) can get it around for 7 laps much more slowly than 17.6kg of petrol can do a full race. Petrol has an energy density about 100x more than Lo-ion batteries which ends up being 25x once you factor in the greater efficiency of electric motors. There has been no significant improvement in the battery tech despite all the attention paid to it so a high performance racing motorcycle that is competitive with ICE is a pipe dream. Great for a little scooter to ride to work.
@@chadwells7562 You're spot on. I'm actually starting to get quite excited about these things. Imagine 10 years from now. 190kgs, Capable of 25 laps, Equivalent of 200bhp. Who knows? but the tech is only going one way.
Best looking Duck !
Why does it have a clutch lever in some footage, doesn't have it in some other footage, and then in pictures it has a gear-shift lever sometimes? What is all this sorcery? Did they use a regular V4 dressed as the moto-e bike for press shoots?
Lol you sound like a conspiracy theorist. It could also be a rear brake lever if it’s not a clutch lever. All of these machines are prototypes at the moment.
No
@@fightingcarrot its probably a rear brake.. all the gp bikes usually have a handlebar mounted lever you press with your thumb under the left grip. Kinda like the throttle on a quad. Since there is no clutch they can move it up to where the clutch would be
@@JoeAnton420 yup, that’s why I just found it funny about dressing up a V4 for photo shoot 🤣
MotoE's gonna be awesome.
Awesome hyperbike
What becomes of the Energica MotoE bikes/effort? Isn't part of the fun of MotoGP the speculation about how one 'constructor' competes against the other? Speaking of this, I wonder how much teams get to tweak their ebikes. Watching the MotoE at Assen (first time I've watched one, to be honest) I got the sense that the bikes were nearly identical.
It’s a spec series the bikes are identical
I hate the pressure for all these new electric vehicles. Not because they aren't impressive but because they want to kill combustion engines so bad and penalize people who still love and want to use them in the future. Plus it don't make vroomvroom noises no more 😠
I would agree with you. I tried the electric Harley recently, rode my aprilia to the test ride and then back home. Felt better on the Aprilia no doubt. Not to say E moto isn’t impressive but they don’t compare 1:1 in terms of experience
Billions of Homes are not green go after that before our toys
@@Speedracer155 before that go after our businesses that care little about being green
You are right
Never ever
I still think it should have been open to all bike companies to get competitive and innovative moving forwards.
Electric bikes are cool too, but I don't know if they are the future. Manufacturing such bike probably polluted 2-3x the petrol version. So it's definitely not going to be the future for ecological reasons.
The EV push has nothing to do with saving the environment. It's all the get Europe self reliant and not reliant on Russia for energy.
I'm sorry guys, but at 225kg and 150hp this is several seconds slower than a Panigale V4 or any other contemporary litre bike. It's still a great bike and I am all for it, but don't assume it's faster than the current ice bikes. Also it can't do it for more than 7 laps, while a Panigale can do 20 or so and fuel up in about 30 seconds in a race environment. I think electric bikes are great for the road, but for racing they can't compete anywhere close apart from their separate series.
They said it could be faster. Remember, the manufacturers don’t want to be making electric bikes, they’re being forced into it.
@@BikeWorldTVshow these people dont understand the difference in engineering a race vehicle and a street vehicle. Also its only V1.1...gotta start somewhere
@@BikeWorldTVshow these people dont understand the difference in engineering a race vehicle and a street vehicle. Also its only V1.1...gotta start somewhere
Physics laws can't be bypassed - a machine with pretty much 2/3 the power, weighing over 30kg more will not lap more quickly than the v4 sp2 with the same tyres and rider.
@@JoeAnton420 oh I do fully understand the difference. In fact, I'm an engineer myself. And to be honest, the performance doesn't really matter, as it is a spec race. They could weigh 300kg and have 60hp and it would still be competitive because they are all the same bikes in the series. But it makes little sense to compare the bikes at hand with a Panigale. And of course it's an early version and electric bikes are going to become better. I can't wait for that to happen. But I suppose that Ducati built something that was as performant as currently possible, and that's surely impressive, but we are used to such incredibly impressive machines already, so it's almost a bit underwhelming.
Most of the crusty old bikers still haven't got over the death of two strokes. I don't think they're ready for this just yet.
Ok ok, I'll have it.
This is the best electric bike in terms of looks 👍🏻👍🏻 but i will not take EV bike anyhow if it comes for general public.
Who would wan't a Ducati that goes like ... Zwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ???
would go quicker with a yoshi exhaust
🤤👍
Where's Mugen?(TT Races).
While I admire the tech- the noise the smell the emotion that comes with all of it is just not there. It honestly sounds like my Traxxis remote controlled car and that’s not a good thing.
Definitely the future 😀 … unless you want to ride more than 7 laps 🤦♂️
That's assuming battery development/technology does not progress past the current point.
This is the first electric bike that looks stunning.
Al and Chris? What is this channel, 44teeth?!
No, Chris is the presenter and I'm Al the cameraman/producer.
@@BikeWorldTVshow by chris you mean northover right?
@@saltytwat5090 Yep
100KG battery for a 7 lap race?
Seven laps???
Looks looks a bike but still sounds like a Scalextric. A bike without a soul. One day while starting my TR6C, I heard this man walk behind my bike and said loudly "what a racket"! This is the type and generation will will like these bikes. Na...I think I will stick with my internal combustion engine.
100% agree
It's ok we'll leave you in the dust with our insane 0-60 times and acceleration out of corners
@@TylerKrick You forget it is not the bike that makes you fast, but the rider!
I can tell you one thing, the future on this E bikes is a short distance
Why is there a gas tank on an Ebike?
Even if it's faster, even if it will be the superior bike, I still won't choose it over a petrol-powered bike. The noise, the vibrations, the clutch, the gears (not sure if the moto e-bike will have more than like 2-3 gears?) anyways my point is it's not all about performance, I want character for a bike and electric just doesn't do that for me.
Ok 👍 super
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Nice advertising... If this is the future (225kg, 150hp, 7 laps range) I think I will have to start to prepare a rope and look out for a suitable tree...
They wouldn't even leave u touch it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Sound? 😂
1st one here , good work 👍
Fantastic clip. But how loud isn’t it? In all seriousness, a big part of the pleasure for me in riding is input, gearing primarily. I twist and go on my 300 gts Vespa and don’t get me wrong, it’s fun but it doesn’t compare to actively charging (pardon the pun) up and down the gearbox of my Monster or 748 on a twisty, hilly two-lane. Anything that’s arguably a step closer to being a passenger, will be met with a healthy dose of scrutiny by me.
The future will be expensive and not last more than 10 years.
Like a marriage 😃
Looks good but only for 7 laps lol that’s not far in the road. I’m still petrol all the way I’m afraid .
The race is seven laps. Its a race bike. Not a street bike! More range = more weight = slower lap times.
Ah yes, for MotoE. Given that Ducati already have 8 bikes running in MotoGP, let them introduce a couple of Moto2 and Moto3 Ducati bikes too. There we go, The Ducati Cup! :)
Rich man's toy. It will never see production for public use in any way.
This feels like a 44 Teeth video 😱 🙈
Why’s that?
@@BikeWorldTVshow 0:05 - 0:10
@@ChumiStu Chris Northover and I’m Al the camerman/ Producer.
@@BikeWorldTVshow aaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Nope, not for me. I love the sounds of a good bike. It is the sound that got me hooked as a kid, and i get questions from other kids today about the sound of my bike. "Is it loud?" they ask with hope in theyre eyes. It just is not the same excitement if it sounds like the wifes bedside table drawer.
I doubt it's faster than a Panigale V4.
They said it could be.
How can the future look good, when it only lasts for 7 laps.......
Its a race only bike designed for a race that is only 7 laps. If they wanted it to last longer it would need a larger battery but then it would weigh more. They explain that in the video. Why would they give it 30 lap range if they only run 7?
@@JoeAnton420 because 7 laps is not a race!
@@markus4692 if there is a green flag, a checkered flag and a podium then its definitely a race.🤫
Who the hell wants to go see a race in silence
Bubijffy nicee
Love it. I want one
With current battery technology, I honestly don't see the point in even trying. 7 laps of range at it's still 50kg heavier than a MotoGP bike. Lithium-ion just isn't ever going to compete with gasoline.
That is why they are working on other battery technologies. Development takes time and establishing a E-MotoGP series now is a good move in order to collect data and experiences.
An Italian electric bike... How is "Tony" gonna fix this one?
Great to see, although it would’ve been nice to Have a couple of manufacturers on the grid in Modo E.
What’s with the big tail unit? Wouldn’t all the electronics be under the tank? Panagale tail would’ve looked great!
When u run low fuel on a bike, you put more fuel and instant 100s miles. If u run out of E in an E bike, u have a dead weight. Literally, expensive dead weight. Many ppl have learned the hard way of buying an E vehicle for fast travel and racing. They get stuck and they can't move and have to call a tow truck ... sounds like the future of the Great Reset!
The sound is an ESSENTIAL factor in the enjoyment of motorcycles and always has been. If you don't get that you're not a biker, you're a commuter.
have you seen all the restrictions happening to bikes? Euro 5 has almost killed the noise for street bikes already, yes you can get aftermarket exhausts but it doesnt help.
noise is great, but they can only be so loud until its not enjoyable. plus have you heard some of these elctric cars/bikes, there are some that sound pretty awesome. lets face it, if sound is the essencial factor to enjoying a bike....youre not a biker. sound might be a part of it, but id rather have the thrill of actually riding it than sitting there listening to it. youll just have to stick to old clapped out retro bikes, with wooden brakes and rust. while everyone else is spanking it past you, having the time of their lifes on electric bikes.
im glad to see this becoming into something, its going to finally start pushing the tech further.
@@whitemarmite Enjoy get run over on your EV bike by drivers on their cell phones.
Looks awesome to me. I’d gladly have one of these and keep an ICE bike as well for the few times I need to take a long trip.
This is probably the only engine noise where I actually WANT you to put your trademark crappy MCN porn flick music over the top of it 😂!…..and you don’t do it 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️!!!! ..what’s going on Chad 😳!
Owned Ducati’s for years currently riding V4 STREETFIGHTER I have zero interest in electric bikes.
If Ducati thinks wings are so important why doesn't this have them
How to make GP racing boring…
With track days being classed as noisy days and having a set amount per year allowed by the council. Could they run this bike and it no longer is classed as using a noisy day up by the circuit. I could see many buying this bike if it does.
No one would buy it. And E racing will kill racing. Look at Formula E and Moto E. No one watches it. They are literally giving away tickets and no one watches it. You know why? No sound! No excitement. If u want quiet, check urself into a retirement home and live in a coma world full of mind suppressants.
7 laps lmao
What are cars and bikes without the awesome sounds produced by the engines. Boring. Sound is a huge part of it. Not to mention the aroma
Ducati just made leccy bikes sexy.....!
👊
At last... A serious step forward...!! Sick of half baked electric motorcycles. I wanted to see something that is worth actually looking at. This is it... 👍👍👍
have you heard of Damon? check them out. lots of cool new tech in their upcoming bike this year.
@@512mbflashdrive Yes thanks for the suggestion.... Damon the Canadian electric motorcycles.
I am sure in a few years they will be able to offer something in the UK.
For the next 3 to 5 years I will stick with my petrol motorcycle. But I will collect my electric car in 3 months time. Hopefully, motorcycles will start to offer real options with real range, as battery density improves.
What a heavy thing, same weight as sport touring street bike. It needs a diet for sure.
If electric is the future I wonder who's willing to ride bikes that in the "real world" will weigh 250/300 kg. dry ...
No soul
To ev vehicles are just boring 😴
Ducati + battery + carbon = $150k or more for end road user…
Looks good, but it's a definite no from me, electric isn't the future, synthetic fuels are, check out top gear, ex F1 engineer has designed a synthetic fuel, which will enable us all to keep the bikes, cars and everything in between..... EVs no sound leaves me cold....👎👎
Could not agree more…at least my bike heart wants to have it that way.
Synthetic fuel is right wing propaganda, total vaporware
@@TylerKrick well well….batteries with their problematic components, coal, gas, nuclear waste….all kept under the hood for the new green energy. Right, left, green, blue….doesn’t matter 😀
500 lbs 150hp and only make 7 laps not that impressive. Electric isn’t the future we can’t make enough power for our power grids.
Electric isn’t the future?! PFFFT Ahhahahahaa. You’ve been watching a slow takeover and you want to bury your head in the sand. Ok.
Looks beautiful, but… but… but 😔
Love the sound of electric bikes, and I do believe that they can be the future. But for now they are useless, as long as the production of electricity itself is very costy - both in economic and environmental terms.
ugh, still no hot swap battery, what a joke
It's a race bike!
no.
_no crazy aero wing huh maybe b'coz of it's weight. motogp should go back to it's roots like this no fancy aero wings just pure rider skills on display just an opinion._
Gorgeous but still a boring electric!
poo
Man there are a lot of old people commenting…
Less than 0 interest. Heavy, heavy and only good for less than 20 miles.
A future forced on us not because there’s anything better about electric. I’m not convinced all that lithium mining, and all the electric being produced to power millions of electric vehicles at any one time is any better for the environment.
There is a 0% chance I would ever buy an electric vehicle. Worse range, way more expensive, once the battery goes your old electric vehicle is completely worthless, long charge times, more expensive to maintain, worse for the environment. It’s like society is purposely going backwards.
@Paul B funily enough they actually don't tend to catch on fire. Yes, there have been incidents with teslas and whatnot, but that's one in a million and a different company that is known for half-hearted engineering. I currently have four gas bikes in my garage directly under my kitchen and they contain about 60 liters of fuel combined, don't want that to catch on fire either. On top of that, I had an electric drill catch on fire while charging on a wooden cabinet and nearly burn my house down. I'd much rather have an expensive bike charge in my garage than a cheap drill.
Doing a review of this overpriced electric toy delegitimizes all your reviews of ICE motorcycles.
Hope these never catch on.
Don't talk crap!
@@BikeWorldTVshow Bahahahahaha - about time creators call out dumb ass comments - yes sir! Excellent.
@@tinymotogarage We love it!
Global warming B.S. long live the combustion engine. Will never buy another Ducati again.
Ducati so be wildly overpriced
To be fair Panigale v4 loses to 30k mile 05 gsxr 1000 around a track…I bought a 2006 gsxr 1000 new and would give anything to have it back never should of sold it.
NOTHING SPECIAL
BAD DESIGN
BAD LOOKING
BAD SOUND
LIKE MISTER FLINTSTONE
Sounds like a lot of effort went into avoiding the price tag, the weight, the range, and the charge time.
On the flipside, it's encouraging to see how lacking the infrastructure is around the world currently, when less than 6% of the autos are EVs.
No corporation would be sticking all this capital into EV's if it weren't for the WEF and their political stooges threatening to end loads of corporations that don't comply.
10 laps of nothing thats no faster than a Moto 3 bike.
waste of time