Five First Ferraris for Less than The Price of a No-Options Porsche 911
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Today on the channel I give you my choice for five ideal starter Ferraris (with bonus advice), all of which are available to you for less than the price of an entry-level no options 911.
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0:00 Introduction
3:37 The Cheapest Ferrari
6:05 The Best Classic
8:10 The Convertible
10:10 The Four Seater
12:27 A Modern Supercar
15:25 The V12
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Last car was a 360 with a capristo, loved it but they are fragile things and every service needed a lot doing. And this was evident in the comprehensive history that came with it, alot of money was spent every service.
I now own a 599 and the build quality is on another level compared to the 360, it’s also been serviced every year since 2006 and the bills are a fraction of the 360, my last service was a major one and that still cost me half what a 360 minor service was with all the other bits it needed.
Love my 599, was such a game changer when launched and is still a very rapid car today and so underrated
I'd love both! Don't think I'll ever be able to stretch to the 599 💔🙄
fully agree with you on the 599 comments
599 looks great and I bet is loss of fun. How often do you drive it?
Still driving an F430 spider manual I ordered about the last month of production. Only one fault so far in 15 years. (The wire from the ignition key ID to the computer broke so it wouldn't start.) Other cars are torquier (my E39M5) and sound better. I fell out of love with the view sighting down the flanks though I still like the front side and rear views. I may just be getting old (56) but don't feel the need to go faster, so my first Ferrari is probably my last one too. I also had the first R35 and found that on a roll, the F430 can actually SLIGHTLY gain on an R35 in straight line, say 50-200kph. The heater's good enough around town that I drive with the roof down at 10C/50F or higher, which is most of the winter where I lived. I always LOVED the looks of the 599 coupe (as a once MkIV Supra owner I always figured it was a Supra on steroids) and would buy one but I like the clothtop experience. It'd have to be an absurd kind of 8-car garage scenario where I'd have a 599 AND the cabrio F430 or equivalent/better open car.
By the way, what is the mileage on your Ferrari because when I look at used models from ages ago, none of them have any mileage on them. Do you have 120,000 miles ot 200,000 kms on it?
Good to see ferrari got the f430 right.... In the last Month of its production 😂😂
Wow I'm surprised a 430 can walk a GT-R
@@466rudy6 I'm not sure what "walk" means. What I noticed--and this was the first-year R35s--was that from 50km/h to about 200km/h, the F430 roof down gained about 2m on the GT-R. At no speed did it stop gaining nor did the GT-R ever open up the distance any. I actually HAD the first-gen GT-R and traded it in for the F430 which I always assumed was FAR slower. But really, the GT-R's killer trick was 0-50km/h or so, when it had the traction of 4WD, and a high gearing, and the dual-clutch transmission that shifted gear like 3 times in that amount of time without power to the wheels cutting out. In contrast the F430's don't "feel" fast as the torque below say 4000 is only "adequate," and especially in my manual, you'll need to downshift to overtake. Once the cars are moving, I guess the F430's amount of power divided by wind and rolling resistance was very slightly better than the GT-R. Note I was shifting a manual at redline, but not speed-shifting it.
why do you say that a 599 is a supra on steroids
I converted my 2007 599 to manual and adjusted the software for more power, and it is ridiculously great. Get them while you can.
Care to comment on costs/difficulty etc of the conversion?
Also is it a right-hand drive or Wrong hand drive?
@@GM-fh5jp Look up EAG in Austin, TX. This is all they do. Kit is about 30k usd, labor about 10. Left hand drive, California car🤘
Yeah please
@@GM-fh5jp Call EAG in Austin TX. All they do is conversions. About $30K USD for parts, about ten for labor. Left hand drive.
I’m interested in the conversion process. Do you source the transmission from a wrecked car or just go to ZF or whoever the OE manufacturer was ?
This is why I love JayEmm, just a man of the people reviewing cars that we 'might' be able to stretch to someday!
@FastJetPerformance Listen to the horror stories. A second Ferrari is a mugs game. There’s a reason the owner wants rid. Get a Porsche or an M5 if your budget is economical.
@@HdHd-hp6qz I've got an RS4, happy to stick with that, totally agree with you.
I bought an FF a couple of years ago. Was a total lemon (for which i largely blame the garage i got it from) and needed PTU almost immediately after buying. spent well over £20k and many garage trips. Sold it within 3mths and lost all of that. Put me off ever owning a supercar ever again and now i drive a mini and much happier.
Even amongst Ferraris, the FF has a reputation for being pricey to run - the PTU you cite being one of the big reasons
LOL Ferrari to Mini....that's a sea change alright!
I have a 2023 RS5 Vorsprung coupe after seriously considering a used Cali T. Your experience was my own personal nightmare that pretty much altered my plans.
Exactly. No matter how exotic the vehicle is, there is nothing like spending a ton of money only to spend even more while it is broken and out of service!!! That kills the dream and any faint glow of excitement permanently!!!
Mate I saw you yesterday in London. Wanted to let you know how much I like your channel but was stuck with a phone call. Keep the great content coming 😊
Ah sorry to miss you - it's always weird to get recognised in London, I find people there don't tend to care about cars - but I did have someone else come and say hi. Next time!
don't we? Have you been to the #southsidehustlecarmeet ?? @@JayEmmOnCars
I think I'll get an F40. Tamyia, in 1/12....
Nice video, great soundtrack!!!
The 360 has to be the absolute pick of the bunch. Classic Ferrari looks which still feel modern. Mega
Put a Capristo exhaust on it and you're set
@@r0b3rt_959 that’s a mandatory modification!
that's why its a Moderna 😆😆😆
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Saw a 599 being unloaded in NYC shortly after its release. Obviously that experience hasn't left me. If I could, that'd be my choice of the bunch.
F430 would be a good choice. It’s amazing car and well designed. Exterior designer was Frank Stephenson. He also designed the first X5, Fiat 500 remake, McLaren P1, Maserati MC12.
But before I would buy a Ferrari I prefer to own a Porsche. You can use those everyday all day and don’t have to be worried about the maintenance.
I thought Frank was born in Morocco, but brought up in the USA with USA citizenship? He may live in the UK now??
My 981S is better than all this over priced impractical, hard to maintain badge
@@Jay-xr3sb disagree but each to their own
@@Jay-xr3sband my Miata is much better than that overpriced and porky 981S entry Porsche
@@divertiti salty. I'm open to trying the ND2 if I need to cash out of the 981S but still have some open top fun. It just seems too small and toy like to be comfortable.
To take you up on your troll, the 981 2.7 was the entry spec, the 981 S has the same engine as the base 911 and the 981 gts, its the prefect amount of power for the street.
The nd2 should have got 200bhp out of a 2.0 by now. That's a good little car but the sound of a 4 banger isn't the strong point.
This is your best video yet, Jay. Brilliant. Thank you!
I bought a crashed 328 GTB many years ago, and rebuilt it as a labour of love. As time passes, hedonic adaption can reduce the thrill. I’d like a modified Cullinan with Paddle Shift, a Bentley Turbo R with a manual gearbox, carbon ceramic brakes and uprated suspension, tuned to 100 Bhp / litre, with a standard look.
The California is a great daily Ferrari! Very usable and a proper Ferrari: impressive performance for a grand tourer (0-60 in 3.5s for that time was impressive), very fun to drive on common roads (no need to go on a race truck like the more racy models, as it is not meant for that), Pininfarina design that has that timeless reference to the original California of the 60s, getting better as it gets older, and wonderful sound (one of the last NA V8). And the option to drive roof down!
Owning a 308, a 360 Spyder and a F430 coupe I can tell you first hand all of these cars are drivers, maintenance costs are not bad with a very compentant independent shop. All very dependable but thirsty ….Love these cars.
You can rent a number of Ferrari's for around the £2k mark for a whole week. Perhaps if you want to get the Ferrari ownership experience but without the stress and expense (and fear of) then rent a couple of times a year. Would be a similar price nearly as the annual insurance and road tax etc. Plus you could try a range of Ferrari's.
I've never owned a Ferrari, and whilst I could at a squeeze afford one, the stress of a potential 5 figure bill would unfortunately tarnish the experience for me.
in Toronto and it's $1600 per day
Thx for the great review, Jay, which I do agree in most terms.
I personally consider the F430 Spider as one of the best examples for a first Ferrari, since it offers a very nice value for money ratio.
Here in Germany I have never ever encountered a middle finger so far when driving mine, instead very friendly people have approached me many times and its always nice to have a chat with these enthusiasts. I guess you would never experience that when driving a definitely reliable but boring mass sportscar like the 911, which has never even come to my mind when thinking about enlarging my car collection.
Idk, I really like the 612 Scaglietti. There are good and bad points with every Ferrari I suppose but I don’t mind the styling at all 😊
I love mine. I wanted a V12 and wasn't willing to play with the the FF PTU issue (here in the States it's $40k for a replacement - if I did get an FF I'd go with a rebuild from the company in the UK James mentioned). But the 612 was in my price range and it's really pretty nice.
How is the gearbox? @@JackBeckman
@@borisyurinov4822 It's better when pushed hard, either in auto or manual mode. When driven in city driving it's a bit jerky, but in "spirited" driving it's pretty good.
As the owner of one I am pleased to see the inclusion of the 612 in this roundup. The thing to know about this model is how big and heavy it is. At 6' 6" wide and 16' long and a throw weight of 4,000 lbs, it takes up as much space as a full size SUV, and is only slightly less massive. The 612's big footprint gives it the ability to accommodate 4 adults, enough luggage for a long weekend. Just don't expect a tossable corner carver. Effortless cruising at 80 mph (or 120 if you dare) is its speciality.
I would LOVE to have an F12. Those are my favorite, with the 458 as a close second. However, they are stupid expensive for my poor ass. 😢
I love my 2008 612 Scaglietti. Grigio Silverstone, yellow calipers.
@@MKolby8085 for me a 612 in Tour de France blue with a tan interior is the business.
Take away the name and it sounds like an awful car.
My 981 is smaller, has more storage, cheaper to buy and run, sound amazing and is both sports car and something you can cruise long distances in
Saw 1 for the first time in the metal last summer and yes they are huge but what a car what presence love it even more now.
A 718 GTS 4.0 is a better drivers car than most 911’s, Boxster looks better than 911 cab & better value.
Nothing like some JayEmm on a Saturday morning!
Premium Heritage reviewed a nicely modified Mondial. It is not for purist but if you are handy and used to wreching on cars, an older classic Ferarri is not the end of the world.
I was a huge Porsche guy my whole life but I’ve seen the light. Now have 3 Ferraris and all have been very reliable especially since two are 34 years and 30 years old. Was considering changing my 9000 mile 300 horse v8 348 for a 964 until I saw the now absolutely stupid prices on those 240 horse air cooled things. And new 911s are just boring. Nope……sticking with Ferrari. Every time I get in one to go for a drive it’s an event. I could never say that about the Porsches I’ve owned.
Well said. Porsches just don't tug the heart-strings like Ferraris/Lotus/McLaren/......
I think it comes down to the engine too, the McClaren is a turbo. NA for feeling like a child in a race car, mid engine for balance.
For me, the 981S delivers that thrill at a £30k price point, more so than the 911. Love the Emira looks but paying more than double doesn't make sense.
I would love a 458, even the R8 will be eventful, but I don't really want the attention!
Agree the 964 is overhypt so i buy 360 sound better 😊
I can do fine without the thrill of waiting for the maintenance bills of a Ferrari. I'll stick with my Porsche.
@@mbasir My 964 turbo was more expensive to own than any of my Ferraris. My 997 turbo had the camshaft issue. That was 11 grand. So my experience is the opposite.
I'm lucky to say I have owned three of the 5 you mention (360, 430 and 599) and I couldn't agree more! They all give you a lot for the money. Especially the 599, but it's also a bit more risky in terms of maintenance. The 360 is a very simple car and easy to maintain. The 430 has a bit more electronics and things to fail but is also clearly a step above the 360 in terms of refinement and maturity. My choice from the three is the manual 360, unless you really need a V12, in that case a 599.
My pick of the bunch? 328
Literally the ugliest and least desirable.
Love this channel. Could never afford ANY of the cars he owns or reviews. 100,000 quid? About the price of my house! 😅
You’ve really shown yourself as an expert when it comes to Ferrari models. Really appreciate your content and I’ll go to you for my questions going forward!
If I ever bought a Ferrari it would be a California or Portofino. I like convertibles but I don't like soft tops. The targa roof on the 328 Gts is quite a nice compromise too, I had one many years ago and loved it. Great video, thanks
Same here Cali t looking dated on the inside but the cheapest portifino can be had for the high end Cali I think the sweet spot is 2020 model year for around £130k next notch up then would be the m but I don’t think they’re worth £40 k more . But prices are dropping
@@itc9251 prices are dropping, Portofino an extremely pretty car in my opinion
What a great video. You answer a question that so many of us have thought about.
Excellent video, even though I'm not a Ferrari fan.
The rear end of the California is not pretty. 599 looks great to me.
I think the 456 GT is the pretty one, or a 550 for only 2 seats. The more recent front engined V12s, less so. The FF looks like a delivery van.
Brilliant Video. Two of My Friends Own Ferraris, One a 328, the Other a California.
This Video Hit Your Viewerships Nail on The Head:
We Aren’t Rich But We Want,
Even Need , The Ferrari Experience. By the way, I’m an American!!! In America!!!
To mis-paraphrase Janice Joplin a little: "Your friends all drive Ferraris, you must make amends..."
I'm on my 2nd Testarossa, currently have a red/tan 87'. It's definitely an experience owning one. I'll be doing the fuse panel upgrade shortly, we'll see what else 2024 brings!
love my '87 TR. don't forget the weak rear diff. next time you do engine out.
A must first see video for a Ferrari buyer under $100k, you have it covered
Quality. Enjoyed every second
Just out of interest, I thought I'd compare Ferrari prices in the UK compared to Finnish (where I'm from) and Swedish (our non-car-tax neighbor) prices.
For reference, median gross annual earnings for full-time employees (2023):
UK: £34,963
Finland: £33,960
Sweden: £30,900
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Ferrari 360 starting price
UK: £45,500
Finland: £74,200
Sweden: £67,600
Ferrari 328 starting price
UK: £84,950
Finland: £102,200
Sweden: -
Ferrari California's starting price
UK: £54,600
Finland: £136,500
Sweden: £89,100
Ferrari 612 starting price
UK: £48,950
Finland: £66,600
Sweden: £71,400
Ferrari FF starting price
UK: £89,980 (2011 - 35K miles)
Finland: £260,000 (2013 - 35K miles)
Sweden: -
Ferrari F430 starting price
UK: £38,995
Finland: £102,000
Sweden: £94,000
Ferrari 599
UK: £71,975
Finland: £144,300
Sweden: £74,000
As I've only ever driven a 360, I think that's got be my weapon of choice. Given a lotto win of course. Oh, and defo the manual.
The split between manual and paddle shift F430 was 10% manual 90% paddle. There is a kit from the USA to convert 599 to manual and there are videos on the success of that swap. Tyler Hooves has done some. Liked this video and agree with the results having owned over the years a 308, 348,355@550 I would say the 308 and 355 were great cars and if set up properly a 348 is not to bad but the set up and tyre choice is critical. We used to use Kent High Performance to help look after them and they were cheaper and as good if not better than some main dealers at the time. Nice to bump onto you last Saturday. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for this video, exactly something I've been wondering.
Great video and very useful to me.
My first ferrari will hopefully occur within the next 24 months, maybe even this year. It will certainly be a f430 but very undecided on coupe or spider. A nice problem to have.
I went out on a launch event for the F12 with a Ferrari racing driver, I asked him his thoughts on the 599 and his response was: "Rapid understeer to oversteer", forget it in the wet unless you have god like skills. 😂 F12 it was.
The 599 has a reputation of being a handful, which I do not doubt is well deserved - however its limits are so high that with modern tyres, on the road, they shouldn't be very easy to find
The FF - Oliver Reed in Rosso Corsa!!! 🤣Fell off my chair...
Happy to be of amusement :)
This is a Clarksonesque metaphor, James. Brilliant! 🤣
I think the F430 has the best sounding exhaust out of all of those. Especially with a mild aftermarket exhaust system
New 911 would have a factory warranty. And be more fuel efficient. Good to know you could get a Ferrari though for less than 100,000.
Excellent commentary by James, as usual.
I've always longed for the 328 GTB but having seen this I could be tempted by the F430 either variant. 🇬🇧
Very enjoyable as always 👍
Very detailed, nice review!
My Ferrari experience is limited to an hour in the then current 360 Modena but that was enough. It made me realise that for the kind of driving that I like something smaller, nimbler and less powerful would suit me better. So it was an hour well spent and still very memorable. I found it unwieldy on narrow winding roads and on the motorway I felt it needed to do almost twice the speed limit before it really came alive. I guess I'd have the same 'problem' in any Lamborghini, McLaren or similar. I'd be happy to try and make sure though ;-)
The 360 is such a fun car to drive and has one of the best sounds even with a standard exhaust. Ferrari and not going to build any more NA V8's, so these will be keepers for a lot of people in the coming years.
This is what top gear should be like not just track work but showing what's possible to own ,& the noise what ferrari makes is hard to beat but saying that when are you doing the same pick 5 for aston martin 😊. So when are you going to be on tv another great vlog thanks
Excellent. Thank you. Curiously, in Australia the dollars are three times plus!
The 599 GT Berlinetta is a badass Ferrari and would be very trick with a nice manual conversion. They are brutally quick and quite a road bully.
In dark colors like the one in the video they look mean and classy.
I like them a lot.
Definitely growing on me as a car
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Yes please, it's weird. A recent trend too
Nobody talks about the maintenance costs associated with a Ferrari. I KNOW that
they are ridiculously expensive, even an engine oil change with some models.
That color combo on that 360 is gorgeous
Right up my street
i have a couple of 911’s and a few ferraris but my regular easy to drive fun car is a ferrari california.
What are your other Ferrari’s and how do they compare to the California?
I would get a lovely LC500 and not worry about huge maintenance bills whilst enjoying it.
I remember when 550,s had dropped to around the 40K mark then went steadily up again but I,m sorely tempted even now! These(& the 575 & 599 are the modern relatives of the much vaunted Daytona)
A 550 was my first and only Ferrari. Maybe I got lucky, but mine was very reliable, seemed very well built and was an incredible car. Buy well and it really will not cost that much to run and minimal depreciation too. Go for it!
i got my 550 with 15k miles, now has 49k. such a great car.
Try the 575M. I love mine. Just make sure it's been driven regularly. I'm about to hit 70,000 kms and it drives superbly. They will go up.
love your reviews Jay, they make me eager for your next instalments, a break from the boring generic reviews elsewhere. I'm a Porsche owner now for a few years and love it, but I do love a load of other sports cars and would definitely have a Ferrari! I think if you want a Ferrari I doubt if you'd look at Porsche's imo and especially not a base Carrera lol, they don't scream look at me and I doubt you'd get the same fizz in a base Carrera from driving a new Ferrari, but a Carrera would at least be more attainable than a base Ferrari model, which by the way, I cant get a price for from their website!
So how about flip it and let us know what Porsche you could get for a new base Ferrari with no options? If you can find the prices lol, I genuinely don't know much about Ferrari's, so I went onto their website and tried to do the configurator but at the end it wants me to send the config to a dealer! How very Ferrari! I suspect it'll be like a mortgage, anyway, I guess its an idea for another video? I'm sure you can even get into a decent classic 911 for base no frills Ferrari money nowadays?!
Keep them coming Jay
I guess people get the Porsche because it is covered by the warrantee and is very reliable. You can easily blow 10,20,30k on maintaining these cars. Having said that it would be just amazing for a while at least to own one and with a bit of luck it's appreciated by the time your anxiety levels exceed the thrills.
I don't get the bias. A new 911 is £100k, but how much are Ferraris now new? Way higher. I remember the F355 being £75k new. So when an M3 is £85k a 911 is no surprise it's going to be more. Nobody is going to buy an old clunker like a 328 and also considering a new 911. They do look ace but not a sensible comparison. I still say Ferrari maintenance is off putting a lot of potential buyers.
Same price until you get that first maintenance or repair bill on your Ferrari
The FF, and the later Lusso, are incredible cars. They will surely become classics in time and represent bargains just now. No idea how the FF was signed off but I am so glad it was. What a thing.
The 360 seems to be universally agreed as one of the best-if not the best-budget Ferraris. Almost all of the “best cheap Ferrari” videos and articles I’ve come across always have a 360 in their list. Which means, someone like me who thinks a BMW M car is the most expensive and realistic car one may buy could potentially own a prancing horse. Hmmm… 🤔
Love the 599. Chronically undervalued and long may that continue.
Good fun video but I still want to win the lotto so I can buy a Roma, though I'll admit I'm now not adverse to the Cali 30 😉
Great choices. The California is my future garage Dweller Sunday driver
Would I take a 911 with full warranty, service plan and one of the least depreciating models of car in the market…..over a 10 year old Italian supercar? Er no brainer for me!
A 911 is a good car, and it's relatively easy ownership - but it's not a Ferrari
@@JayEmmOnCars you can’t tell them that! You’ll trigger them! 🤣
360 has been my favourite for decades already
Nice one, next time "five ferraris for less than a no options dacia" please...😄
If you live in the UK you don't need a Ferrari. You are living in the most beautiful countryside with a rich history that will keep you entertained for several lifetimes.
These cars will bleed you dry of money.
I bought a Jaguar F-Type 3.0 S manual coupe. Great looks, lots of power, all aluminum, sounds wonderful. They can go wrong but are generally quite good.
Not necessarily, if you're smart about it.
Common sense and supercars never mix. @@christhompson9420
@@christhompson9420 Back in 1986, the last time I was considering a Ferrari, the 330GTC was an attractive option. I ended up with a Euro-spec 1969 Maserati Ghibli. Now I have a Jaguar F-Type 3.0 S manual coupe in the garage waiting for spring and the salt to be washed off the roads.
Baby Testarossa 348. All analog version to the 355. Flat plane crankshaft equals F1 exhaust note
Well done for mentioning the Cali. Always shunned in the Ferrari world. Now worthy of consideration. Ed
It takes a bit of courage and more nervs to own a Ferrari - but the pleasure to drive and own one is unparalleled. No other brand can offer that particular and fantastic experience.
Lotus owners disagree.
Great video, very informative
I absolutely adore the FF (and the gtc4 lusso). If I had the opportunity to own either, I would. Maybe one day.
Nothing like the 599! I would adore to have one!
Yeeeeees!!! The video we needed!
599 is damn sexy beast. Thanks for sharing this information… now the flame of SF is ignited
How about the 355. That one was just awsome.
Dumpster fires to own.
The problem with Ferrari is the owners are worried about mileage ! Maintenance costs are ridiculous too
At least with a Porsche they can do 200k miles ! I’ve seen a good few for sale with over 200k miles ! AutoAlex has recently bought a 993 with over 200k miles ! ❤
I’m aiming to get over 200k miles in my 718S ! Have done previously in two of the most unreliable cars made (B5 RS4 and Renaultsport R26)
The best Porsche is a used Porsche? The 997.2 Turbo is basically all the tech and performance one could need/want in a car!
Probably over $130,000 for a manual 997.2 Turbo, but probably cheaper to maintain than the 997.1 turbos which all need coolant lines pinned and some had trouble with camshafts spinning. I have a 997.2 Carrera 4S manual purchased just before CovId and I spent only around $45k though it had 85k miles, but still immaculate. About a year before a decent 997.1 Turbo was about $70k, then they all shot over $100k. If you don't care about the manual (which I do), you can get a Ferrari California for far less than a 997.2 Turbo.
My first Ferrari was a 550 and if I were shopping for a Ferrari today for £100K, that would be my choice again. Good video BTW.
i hope i'll be able to afford a 360 one day. ever since playing need for speed hot pursuit 2 (search for the intro sequence on youtube, it's so nice, especially when the diablo police car appears) some 20 years ago when i was 10, this car has stuck with me, deep down, you know... just like the murciélago, to be fair - but one of these will always be out of reach and also a little over the top as well. the 360 modena, however, especially as a manual, would be a car that i'd cherish and take on adventures all over europe, just like sam from seen through glass. his new challenge stradale is one of the sexiest cars i've seen. great timeless design.
Haha, exactly the same reason the Diablo 6.0 is my pie-in-the-sky car!
It's definitely achievable for a normal working stiff (which is me), I have a 360 and took about 10 years of dealing , fixing and trading up various things but got there and its worth it, if you want it enough you will do it.
I have always liked the 599. What a car!!! ❤
California is the reality in SE UK but would love a 599.
Agree with your choices...F430 for me, please. The last analog Ferrari. Cheers!
I honestly don't know what's more shocking. The fact a base 911 is now 100 grand plus. Or the fact that most of my favorite Ferraris (courtesy of Top Gear) can be had for the same or less.
Used Ferrari vs. new Porsche? Easy pick! Porsche every time. Oh, and the maintenance. Oh, and I like to actually drive my cars.
I get it, but it depends when you live. I would stay away from F1 transmissions and anything with belts. I have a manual 991.1 Carrera S and a California. I would love an F12 or a 458, but those cars cost more than both of mine put together. If I had to go F1, the F430 or the 599 would be my choices, but you have to keep in mind maintenance. I had a 360, but the F1 pumps are a pain when, not if, they go bad. Also, FYI, I live in the states, so prices here are different. Trying to find a manual F430 or 599 are outrageous in price.
What's important to note is that a used Ferrari won't depreciate much, whereas a new 911 will depreciate rather quickly. So you have to look at the total cost of ownership over a period of time, not just the entry price.
328 / 308 or the 599 for me!! (I formerly owned an 85’ 308) the 550 would be awesome as well.
Probably not a popular opinion but…. I really want a Portofino in Azzurro California. But by not quite £100k yet!
Brilliant!!!
Enjoyed this but I’m back to champion the 348 in the comments which is a miles better car than a 308/328, and evokes more Ferrari feel and presence to boot
I like both the 328 and 599, but will rather get a brand new 911.
You need your head examining if you buy a near 20 year old Ferrari and think it compares to a 2024 Porsche 911.
If you don't have the budget for much newer, then you don't have the budget to run it anyway.
I must need mine examining then 😂 as mine is 23 years old and I wouldn't even do a straight swap for a 911 thats worth quite a bit more than mine in a million years, driving experience doesn't even compare.
I personally think that these days with finance on cars given out so easily ( maybe not quite so much right now) that Ferraris and exotic stuff seems less impressive somehow … it’s almost like they are too accessible
Not knocking them, but I almost think a 10 year old one is more impressive that a brand new one… I can’t explain my logic
Anyone think that the California soft top looks very much like a Jag XK8 rag top