Perfect for underground mines, and mines connected to gas, grid or renewables. Carbon footprint aside, anything that saves a company from trucking diesel to remote locations is will sell like hotcakes.
Or mining Lithium, maganese, copper, uranium, iron ore, and all the other elements that make the electric revolution possible. Mining companies have already been driving ev converted Toyotas for a while now. The mining companies want evs to increase their profits.
This would be perfect for me. A Hilux without the fuel consumption. I do less than 50km a day so 200km would be more than enough. I'm sure lot's of tradesmen would be fine with that range too.
You make a very good point about the various trade offs in design with BEV's on current design. You've also highlighted the key strengths of BEV well - in terms of smooth and quiet transport. I am very glad that Toyota are working on this. My personal view of the future (sans meddling from governments!) is that BEV's and ICE vehicles will co-exist as marketplace choices and people should be able to choose what works best for them.
@@EdgarRenje Are BEV's significantly more environmentally friendly than ICE cars? The evidence suggests that they are not. They are much more energy intensive to make (many tons of ore for a single car battery), and are usually charged at night using grid power (which is predominantly coal/gas).
@RodneyW The evidence shows the exact opposite is the case - of course, not in the coal country Australia, but everywhere else. They're so much more efficient, the amount which is needed at production is saved over the life cycle pretty quickly. It's also not true, they're charged overnight. You don't seem to be informed about the real world usage.
I would buy this. For a typical weekend with a tip run, a Bunnings run or two, this would be perfect. Even my commute 36km round trip to work each day, this is it.
Really hoping we get a real electric Ute from byd in the near future. Is actually amazing no one is selling a proper dedicated electric Ute here yet given Utes are the most popular car in the country.
I agree with your assessment on this! I wonder if perhaps a plug-in hybrid is a good solution to the Hilux electrification problem, at least for the time being. Toyota doesn't really sell their PHEV/Prime vehicles in Australia, but the idea of a Hilux Prime could be a good one to explore. That way you get that electric range for the city, but you still get the existing Hilux capability Guess we can see how the market reacts to the hybrid Ranger in the meantime.
Mining companies have already been driving ev converted Toyotas for a while now. The mining companies want evs to increase their profits. Hybrids dont make sense commercially. Hybrids are overly complex, expensive to buy, to maintain, and to run - hybrids still burn fossil fuel. Mining companies here in Oz are also now taking delivery of pure ev ore hauling trucks. This will save them money. Underground mines, evs should be the only choice really due to the air pollution problem underground.
This truck is likely designed in Thailand to be a songthaew, public transportation consisting of a standard cab pickup truck with two rows of bench seats in the tray covered by a stainless steel awning/roof. It would cut down considerably on Thailand's urban air pollution problem.
10 years too late. Toyota of all manufacturers should've been the first to produce a modern BEV and Hybrid utility vehicle, not the Ford Maverick. Even Peugeot and Citroën's Berlingo electric is the only electrified "Toyota" commercial in Europe. Not one hybrid in their entire EU commercial line up. The crossover bZ4x is embarrassing. Toyota has squandered electrification and is in a tailspin No tears should be shed for Toyota's executives when they get bailed out and when Chinese competition plaster the walls with them🙄
Bring out a Dual cab version with 5-600klm range at a price comparable to todays ICE version, I think it would be a great seller. Put a Tacoma body on it and I think it would smash the sales.
@@motorpolitan8884yoshino solid state batteries has 2.5 times higher energy density than lithium. Enough to do 600km with 80 kWh lithium weight/size. Ldv ute has 88.5 kWh currently
@@Nikdangove With currently battery tech 500km range would mean a 100KWH Battery pack on the low-end if it has aero like a Model Y, or a 175KWH battery if it has Aero like an F150 lightning. The 131KWH battery on the lightning costs $35k USD. There is no way you can price an EV with that size battery similarly to a modern ICE Tacoma without losing money.
Hi Tom - I have a 2015 Holden ute and if Toyota bring this to Australia I will be among the first to go look at it. A single-cab EV ute with a long tray would be the perfect replacement, as I actually use the tray and none of the (not really) "utes" on sale would be suitable, as the trays are too short. I say look at, though because I'm afraid it will be way too expensive for an individual to afford. I hope to be proven wrong.
Diesels are not suited to town stop start work which is why I’m sticking with the one remaining low riding petrol Ute for now, the workmate. This is probably a post 2030 proposition for me when the bugs are out and prices have settled.
12:00 Your comment about Hilus drivers not needing much range is utterly wrong in one of Toyotas main selling areas - Thailand. Hiluxs are work vehicles, a company bus, AND the family car. They go everywhere and do everything in a Hilux. They travel the length and breadth of the country on a regular basis. A 200Km range and 45 min charge times at an increased will not sell in Thailand at all.
Good review but which mining company needs a 2wd Hilux? Also for the mum & dad outback adventurers, where's the Range they want & expect? Come on Toyota. Pull your finger out?
15 years since the first Tesla. GM, Ford, Rivian and soon Tesla and RAM all with desirable utes and all Toyota can turn out is a skunkworks Hylux. Pathetic ! They deserve the future they won’t have.
Aside from being remarkably early on hybrid (!) it’s rare to see Toyota lead. They wait and see what’s going on and then follow later. Deeply conservative. Let’s see where this goes.
Mining companies dont agree with you. Mining companies have already been driving ev converted Toyotas for a while now. The mining companies want evs to increase their profits. Hydrogen and Hybrids dont make sense commercially. Both are overly complex, expensive to buy, to maintain, and to run - both still burn fuel. Mining companies here in Oz are also now taking delivery of pure ev ore hauling trucks. This will save them money.
Do some research on storage of hydrogen, it’s a huge barrier to rolling out the technology and unfortunately the laws of physics mean that it won’t get any better.
So the mining companies want electric utes to drive around the same mine sites that are using huge diesel powered machines 24/7, that will make a huge difference😂
they look at the total cost to operate each vehicle. it costs them a lot to get diesel shipped out to mines, so anything they can swap for an EV saves them money.
Another fire bomb just waiting to burn......wouldn't think mining companies, particularly underground would contemplate battery operated anything underground knowing what can happen to EV's. Would be catastrophic if and when they went bang!
Lol , mining “executives “ are being invited for test drives .. as if they could make an informed choice about what the end user needs . What could possibly go wrong ..Maybe they will bog in the mud but at least the mines will have utes with wine coolers ..
Perfect for underground mines, and mines connected to gas, grid or renewables.
Carbon footprint aside, anything that saves a company from trucking diesel to remote locations is will sell like hotcakes.
That’s the thinking.
An EV fire underground? No thanks.
@@indeepeterhopwood8106a rare event vs an everyday issue
Finally a ute with a full size tray
I like it. I would love to be able to buy a 2 door, 6' cab electric truck here in North America.
Good review, Tom. Toyota really does things well and it is encouraging that they are focusing on a vehicle for specific needs. Well done, Toyota
You need an electric Hilux when you're mining coal.
😂😂😂… or doing terrorist/rebel stuff.
don't be silly. they mine so many other substances besides fossil fuels.
the iron y
😂😂
Or mining Lithium, maganese, copper, uranium, iron ore, and all the other elements that make the electric revolution possible.
Mining companies have already been driving ev converted Toyotas for a while now. The mining companies want evs to increase their profits.
This would be perfect for me. A Hilux without the fuel consumption. I do less than 50km a day so 200km would be more than enough. I'm sure lot's of tradesmen would be fine with that range too.
You make a very good point about the various trade offs in design with BEV's on current design. You've also highlighted the key strengths of BEV well - in terms of smooth and quiet transport. I am very glad that Toyota are working on this. My personal view of the future (sans meddling from governments!) is that BEV's and ICE vehicles will co-exist as marketplace choices and people should be able to choose what works best for them.
Thanks Rodney.
Until the planet decides not to coexist with humans anymore.
@@EdgarRenje Are BEV's significantly more environmentally friendly than ICE cars? The evidence suggests that they are not. They are much more energy intensive to make (many tons of ore for a single car battery), and are usually charged at night using grid power (which is predominantly coal/gas).
@RodneyW The evidence shows the exact opposite is the case - of course, not in the coal country Australia, but everywhere else. They're so much more efficient, the amount which is needed at production is saved over the life cycle pretty quickly. It's also not true, they're charged overnight. You don't seem to be informed about the real world usage.
nope, oil cars will be banned
I would buy this. For a typical weekend with a tip run, a Bunnings run or two, this would be perfect. Even my commute 36km round trip to work each day, this is it.
Really hoping we get a real electric Ute from byd in the near future.
Is actually amazing no one is selling a proper dedicated electric Ute here yet given Utes are the most popular car in the country.
I agree with your assessment on this!
I wonder if perhaps a plug-in hybrid is a good solution to the Hilux electrification problem, at least for the time being. Toyota doesn't really sell their PHEV/Prime vehicles in Australia, but the idea of a Hilux Prime could be a good one to explore. That way you get that electric range for the city, but you still get the existing Hilux capability
Guess we can see how the market reacts to the hybrid Ranger in the meantime.
Mining companies have already been driving ev converted Toyotas for a while now. The mining companies want evs to increase their profits.
Hybrids dont make sense commercially. Hybrids are overly complex, expensive to buy, to maintain, and to run - hybrids still burn fossil fuel.
Mining companies here in Oz are also now taking delivery of pure ev ore hauling trucks. This will save them money.
Underground mines, evs should be the only choice really due to the air pollution problem underground.
@@nordic5490 I do know about the demand from mining companies and the video states as much as well, but thank you for letting me know all the same.
At 3:40, is that a mega cruiser in the background??
Sure is. Well spotted
Looks like a storm trooper.
This truck is likely designed in Thailand to be a songthaew, public transportation consisting of a standard cab pickup truck with two rows of bench seats in the tray covered by a stainless steel awning/roof. It would cut down considerably on Thailand's urban air pollution problem.
A twin cab with 350k+ would be ideal to fulfill most of aussie needs
I would buy one
Put a proper tray on it and I am in!!!! These joke 4 door things ( I refuse to call them 'utes', they are a' joke' as a work vehicle ) leave me cold.
10 years too late.
Toyota of all manufacturers should've been the first to produce a modern BEV and Hybrid utility vehicle, not the Ford Maverick. Even Peugeot and Citroën's Berlingo electric is the only electrified "Toyota" commercial in Europe. Not one hybrid in their entire EU commercial line up. The crossover bZ4x is embarrassing. Toyota has squandered electrification and is in a tailspin
No tears should be shed for Toyota's executives when they get bailed out and when Chinese competition plaster the walls with them🙄
so true
They don’t even sell the Prius in Australia and no PHEV.
I would take one happily. A range of 400 would be much easier to live with. Surely they can reduce the tray size for more batteries.
Generally it's a 12 hour shift in mining, they would have to swap vehicles every 6 hours.
or charge them at lunch, or battery swap. very simple
@@I_dont_want_an_atneither. These utes are used to ferry people and equipent for all kinds of maintenance tasks. They are parked for much of the day.
TMC should take it to production in next 3 years once its new EV platform is ready for mass production.
Oooh I’m just here for the comments. Where my luddites at?
You can’t be a Luddite if something is genuinely shit.
Hm, let me guess. Some keyboard warrior called you a luddite, and now you are making full use of that term.
Up there.
Bring out a Dual cab version with 5-600klm range at a price comparable to todays ICE version, I think it would be a great seller.
Put a Tacoma body on it and I think it would smash the sales.
So, basically impossible.
@@motorpolitan8884 that’s what they said about cars like Tesla models S3XY 10yrs ago.
@@motorpolitan8884yoshino solid state batteries has 2.5 times higher energy density than lithium. Enough to do 600km with 80 kWh lithium weight/size. Ldv ute has 88.5 kWh currently
@@Nikdangove With currently battery tech 500km range would mean a 100KWH Battery pack on the low-end if it has aero like a Model Y, or a 175KWH battery if it has Aero like an F150 lightning. The 131KWH battery on the lightning costs $35k USD. There is no way you can price an EV with that size battery similarly to a modern ICE Tacoma without losing money.
I’m a aficionado for hilux, I own a lot of them, but the reality I’ll change it for cybertruck with no regrets
whats a Moader?
Hi Tom - I have a 2015 Holden ute and if Toyota bring this to Australia I will be among the first to go look at it. A single-cab EV ute with a long tray would be the perfect replacement, as I actually use the tray and none of the (not really) "utes" on sale would be suitable, as the trays are too short. I say look at, though because I'm afraid it will be way too expensive for an individual to afford. I hope to be proven wrong.
Would prefer it had the 3.4ltr twin turbo V6 out of the LX600 or the LC300 turbo diesel from the Land Cruiser.
That would also be very cool
Another interesting review Tom. In your intro at the start of your videos, what car are you sitting in?
That's my old long-termer, the Mercedes C200.
Thanks bloke.
Diesels are not suited to town stop start work which is why I’m sticking with the one remaining low riding petrol Ute for now, the workmate. This is probably a post 2030 proposition for me when the bugs are out and prices have settled.
Sticker shock would/will turn people away from this in droves.
Twin cabs are for people with children. Single cabs are for workers. Tubs are for pretenders trays and roof racks are for real trades.
Do the mining companies use diesel generators to charge them
Yes, they would.
Makes some sense for underground, but knowing how woke Rio and BHP have got they'll probably try to force them on open cut.
@@elliotkane4443 i doubt it. why would they
Please review new Honda CRV
Maybe a Hybrid Hilux would make the real deal..
Wide front single cab 1 of 1
Interesting
They dont need automotive mechanic. They need electricians. Crap im scared of maintaning high voltage cars and its gonna toast me
12:00 Your comment about Hilus drivers not needing much range is utterly wrong in one of Toyotas main selling areas - Thailand. Hiluxs are work vehicles, a company bus, AND the family car. They go everywhere and do everything in a Hilux. They travel the length and breadth of the country on a regular basis. A 200Km range and 45 min charge times at an increased will not sell in Thailand at all.
Good review but which mining company needs a 2wd Hilux? Also for the mum & dad outback adventurers, where's the Range they want & expect? Come on Toyota. Pull your finger out?
15 years since the first Tesla. GM, Ford, Rivian and soon Tesla and RAM all with desirable utes and all Toyota can turn out is a skunkworks Hylux. Pathetic ! They deserve the future they won’t have.
I think you’re overestimating how mature the electric market is, and underestimate toyota - the company thats literally perfected hybrid drivetrains.
Aside from being remarkably early on hybrid (!) it’s rare to see Toyota lead. They wait and see what’s going on and then follow later. Deeply conservative. Let’s see where this goes.
It's becoming American Corporation because the Logo name has written in English word....
Maybe my father can buy it for my grandpa
Or he can ship it into Saudi Arabia and then they will send it to town
Another hilux Another cramped cabin 😂
@chasing cars great video but please stop changing fake colors of cars in your thumb nail to attract viewers
Maybe Toyota can draw some inspiration away from fridge white.
$90k for a basic single cab ute! No thanks
Not commenrcial, still on testing
That's lazy of toyota, why couldn't they put a "bench ish" seat?
I prefer diesel
Toyota is American Corporation
Great for towing helium balloons
Similar to bz4x eh? pass...
I believe a hydrogen-powered Toyota Hilux will be a better suited pickup for mining companies
Mining companies dont agree with you.
Mining companies have already been driving ev converted Toyotas for a while now. The mining companies want evs to increase their profits.
Hydrogen and Hybrids dont make sense commercially. Both are overly complex, expensive to buy, to maintain, and to run - both still burn fuel.
Mining companies here in Oz are also now taking delivery of pure ev ore hauling trucks. This will save them money.
Do some research on storage of hydrogen, it’s a huge barrier to rolling out the technology and unfortunately the laws of physics mean that it won’t get any better.
looks hideous…
like a normal hilux looks so good
Definitely no fan, for a single cab, extra ugly, slower and incapable hilux $90,000 is an 'interesting proposition'.
Not to mention 200km range, wow.
So the mining companies want electric utes to drive around the same mine sites that are using huge diesel powered machines 24/7, that will make a huge difference😂
they look at the total cost to operate each vehicle. it costs them a lot to get diesel shipped out to mines, so anything they can swap for an EV saves them money.
90k!! 😂😂😂😂
Just a very vague guess, I don’t have much to go off
finally a vehicle for the environmentally conscious insurgent
They should stop this Electric BS so that I can send my 10 year old child to school, because he is now mining Litium.
Glad to hear he’s got a well paid job with a future. You must be proud! 😊
My 14 month old daughter is mining the iron for the LFP packs. I’m so proud of her. 😊
What a waste of time
Made in America but We can open factories in Australia too....
Another fire bomb just waiting to burn......wouldn't think mining companies, particularly underground would contemplate battery operated anything underground knowing what can happen to EV's. Would be catastrophic if and when they went bang!
No, you need an electric Hilux for an open cut coal mine.
Lol , mining “executives “ are being invited for test drives .. as if they could make an informed choice about what the end user needs . What could possibly go wrong ..Maybe they will bog in the mud but at least the mines will have utes with wine coolers ..
It’s not zero emissions. It’s zero tail pipe emissions… big difference because most of our power generation still comes from coal and gas.
Electric - OFF ❗️