The Triton Impressed me the most. Nicest car for me and the biggest difference to its predecessor. I can not really understand how it is only 4th Place, it managed everything well and in the tables of informations it is the cheapest and also the most positive with the best values.
An unbiased UTE test where the Hilux is not included, a legend like the Triton comes 4th, neither first or second place is Japanese, the Amarok comes 2nd ?? 😂
Driving experience The winner best Mitsubishi Triton first choice, Ford ranger second choice Nissan third choice Isuzu D-MAX number four choice Toyota Hilux fifth, Mazda bt50 Volkswagen amarok in the middle choice,Fiat fullback and Fiat titano is also the same doublet of Mitsubishi triton.
Definitely, and it's the only one with 10 year/200,000km warranty. The VW definitely has a Gate Warranty; as soon as you drive it out of the dealership gates, it expires!
In the Ranger, 4A isn't "centre diff unlocked". There is no centre diff. It uses a clutch pack to drive the front wheels. 4A is an on demand AWD setting not a full time AWD setting like the 4H in the Triton. Having owned, driven and towed with a MN and MR Triton, driven a MV Triton, owned, driven and towed with a V6 Ranger Wildtrak, there is a noticeable difference in feel and performance between the Mitsi SS2 and the Ford 4A systems. The Mitsi is the superior in my experience. Regardless, making comments implying the Ford has a centre diff or that the systems are similar in operation undermines your authority to offer any sort of informed review. 5 min of googling would have given you an understanding of how the systems operate. The Fords torque distribution display would also have shown that 4A is not constant AWD.
Agree on the Amarok but the Ranger does offer buttons for all audio and AC controls. Apart from heated and cooled seat buttons, demist buttons, the Triton doesn;t seem to offer anything extra on buttons.
First and second place are vehicles built by manufacturers that have terrible reliability history... make sure you sell them before the warranty runs out to people who have no idea how terrible they'll be out of warranty 😅😅
Which company has a billion dollar law suit for selling vehicles for 5 years with known issues🤔,its flag ship ,extortionate costing vehicles drink oil quicker than we can a beer🤔.1990s reliability tractors was some time ago .
Should've set the proper Drive Mode first before proceeding, Mitsubishi clearly told how it would be the basis for the tune of its M-ASTC. So the first part of the Triton's off-road test was clearly a driver skill issue. Even in 4HLc, the M-ASTC system will stick to road tune if the Drive Mode wasn't set to the proper terrain. Overall package, the Ranger will feel superior at first but definitely would want to opt for something more capable especially off-road and with peace of mind for long-term ownership. That's clearly and definitely not the Ford :)
Triton impressive as usual , the drive mode selection is definitely important when going offroad. Car expert paul got the same issues you got when doing the offroad test , the difference is he didnt understand how the mode selection works for the triton. He didnt figure out to use the mud mode when doing the offroad test in 4hlc when the wheels were losing traction. He also didnt use 4llc , for the offroad test when its clearly the mode everyone will use for heavy offroading. he didnt understand how to engage the mode selection between modes because the modes were not engaging He didnt understand how to engage the hand brake , because the triton was rolling backwards on his hill test.
Paul failed to at least understand how to use the drive modes, which only involves simple pressing of a button to change, hence why the Triton performed poorly. This guy on the other hand, also miserably failed to use common sense but kicked in on the latter part.
Common theme among aussie reviewers it seems. Yet the Super Select II system has been around for a while now, and nothing has changed with the system as a whole. I've used mine offroad a few times now (MV GSR Triton) and have had zero issues. There is definitely an aspect of user error, yet it's such a simple system to use 🤷🏾♂️
@MiggyMndza I think it's a good thing that this guy fumbled a bit, reason being , he confirmed that the modes in the new mv triton are very important when performing specific tasks. For instance in regular 4h sand or snow the traction control is not aggressively tuned because this is the mode you would be using on the highway, so if one wheel loses traction in snow or rain It won't aggressively send power to the other wheels which could cause the entire vehicle to fish tail or spin out of control But when you are on a trail, the mud mode tunes the traction control aggressively , so if you are going Over an obstacle , it will break the outside wheel to send more power If the other wheels are not touching the ground And off course 4llc just turns the mv triton into an offroad beast with no fuss. Paul from car expert could not figure this out , and instead of admitting he is at fault for lack of understanding, he blames the vehicle. I give carsales credit for showing us how the new mv triton modes really operate in the real world.
@@warcrabcyber9908 . Definitely the use of the modes does help, not a bad thing! One thing with the carexpert review is when switching modes from 2H to 4H, it was done stationary and in gear......this instantly won't allow the system to changeover and one of the reasons he had trouble, but proceeded to give it a bad wrap. Also, the stock tyres that come on the GLS and GSR are the most horrible tyre I've ever driven on. While they are marketed as an All-Terrain, they are anything but that. A slightly damp road had me sideways with those tyres at granny's pace on at least 3 occasions. I've since gotten rid of them and have had far more grip in the wet. So if they are that bad on the road, imagine off road where the surface is loose. While I would have absolutely loved a Wildtrak, my MV GSR has been incredible and zero regrets with it's abilities. Not too mention saved myself some coin over the price gouging from local Ford dealers.
Manufacturers should hire the engineer behind the TC and SuperSelect on Mitsubishi's, they never miss!! S-AWC on the Outlander works wonders especially on on-road handling, not even Symmetrical AWD on the Forester and on the Ascent can come close to it!!
I got the ranger wildtrak v6 last year. Is an awesome thing. The tub absolutely rules and makes all the other utes look prehistoric. Its got power, plenty of tie downs, lights at night time and those side steps are the best. If Toyota or nissan or any new ute in the next few years dont add those side steps they are idiots. Revolutionary for those who actually use the tub.
triton has best reliability and customer care for sure but i still think it could be heaps better. i dont understand why mitsy have not taken it to the next level. they know they can wipe the floor with all the others but just have an agenda thats set to be the greenest and thats it. to keep that 2.4 ( yes its been more given more power etc etc), but i still feel they have slapped the mitsy purist in the face. may be enough power for most but i still feel dissapointed. anyhow thats my rant.
It's surprising to see the absence of certain models, including the Hilux (the country's second-best-selling ute), the LDV T60 Max with its new plus version featuring coil spring rear suspension, the GWM Cannon XSR, and the new GWM Alpha with factory front diff lock. It seems car sales need to do their homework, as the average buyer cannot afford high-end options like the Ranger or Amarok. Hopefully, CarExpert will include all models in their upcoming ute test, providing a more comprehensive comparison for consumers.
As they said at the start of the video. They were only using vehicles at around the $75k price point. The Hilux GR Sport has poor pay load, very expensive services and is well behind the others in terms of features and on-road driving. The GWM Aplha wasn't released when they did the video.
I first met Shaun Whale at a 4x4 show in Brisbane 6 years ago. We got to chatting about Hilux's and met for coffee that night. We went for a walk in the park, talked about wheeling, held hands and watched the sunset. Shaun is an amazing guy and I will never forget that day.
Great comparison, thanks. As a recent BT50 buyer... I'd have been interested in a more comprehensive look at all the driver assist tech in these and how useful or intrusive they are. They are definitely not all created equal
I recently bought an Amarok Style model. I did consider a Ranger, but the waiting time was too long. Had my heart set on a V6, but the two top model Amaroks were out of my price range. Unfortunately the Style is not available with the V6 in New Zealand, but very happy with the bi turbo 2 litre. It's a joy to drive and economical too. It tows my 3 tonne caravan good.
How’s the gearbox going ? The one I had would go into neutral at times when I’d slow down then go to accelerate again like it didn’t know what gear to be in
I feel the VW Amarok Style is the better pick over the Pan-Americana. Option it with the leather and it's significantly cheaper only missing out on the premium sound. However even the non leather seats look and feel fantastic and arguably more comfortable.
Good review. Practical, down to earth commentary. Enjoyed it. Who cares about Hilux. 6 month services and the Toyota tax. Enough already said about it.
I love reviews like this - Keeps the muppets buying Ford and Toyotas spending crazy $ on Ute's that don't give you value for money. This reduces the $ on Ute's people in the know actually want like the Tritons and we end up getting a fantastic Ute for a great price. Keep up the good work
And you can leave it in full-time 4WD without blowing up the transmission, not like most the others. The only people who don't like Tritons are the people who have never driven one.
Where is the category for reliability? That would know ford well and truly off the purch that it has been put on. Yes have driven it and a magnificent vehicle but if it cannot do 400,000km without massive failures and costing a fortune, then……why would you purchase one? For work or play ? Enjoyed the coverage of the vid. Was comprehensive but needed is the reliability and long term cost of ownership. Please update your categories. I love most ppl will be looking forward to the updated vid, including reliability and long term cost of ownership….😀
I don’t understand all this ranger reliability bullcrap. Mine has 280k kms and have had zero, that’s right zero issues. The Hilux I had prior every dealership service there was something else they would “find” that needed replaced. I admit I do a lot of kms and sit idle a fair bit which they said stuffs the DPF apparently.
@@darrensmith4661 I should have mentioned mine is the px model. 3.2l. Use it for work, rarely off-road but couple beach runs and trails through the bush. Best car I’ve owned as far as reliability and just day to day comfortable rig to drive. Maybe the newer models with the 10 speed aren’t so great. Time will tell as It’s upgrade time and can’t wait for the new Hilux and the only other I would consider is a dmax. Tritons and navaras I’ve had in the past were absolute rubbish. Just little things like hose clamps failing but enough to have to have them tilt trayed back to the dealer. Costing me thousands of $ missed work due to being a contractor.
Traction control should replace the diff lock for new 4wd. Why would TC be included with all 4wd modes? TC prevents drive slip by stopping the free spinning wheel. This saves the extra modification to diffs to achieve all wheels driving regardless. I cant understand why TC is switched of in critical situations. Do they have test tracks after their assembly lines???
As someone who owns a current BT 50 but has a current Hilux work vehicle. Hilux is better in every aspect. Especially power and torque. BT or the Isuzu is a poor especially if you want to tow.
Hilux is built for work and durability…it amazes me that these reviewers focus on screens and infotainment rather than off-road abilities and reliability in a 4wd workhorse segment 🤷
I had a Hilux, then new model BT50 then now back in a Hilux. I couldn’t agree more. BT50 was so cheaply made. Only thing better was that the seats were comfy. I hated driving being in it so much that sold it a year later.
Agreed but when there is a V6 600Nm Ranger in the comp, the rest are not in the same ball park. But it would have been interesting to see how they all performed relative to each other.
I’d still choose a Toyota , I drove a mates Rugged X after a long day of fishing and driving in the rain coming up the Clyde mountains it felt good better than my daily drive my Toyota Fortuner.
Triton wins! Better value proposition. Better durability, better in maintenance, better fuel economy and you can customize it a lot to add extra comfort off-road and work features
strange that the diff locks are not working in any of the vehicles . diff locks lock diffs so both wheels spin together if one wheel lifts the other one spins
I agree. Of the first 26 Dakar Rallies (when it was a 20,000+km event) Mitsubishi won 12 times in bog standard Pajero's hence they were crowned "King Of The Desert"... then they changed the rules. My Pajero Sport spends a couple of months every year in the Central Australian desert country... mud holes, sand dunes, gravel... absolutely loves it.
@@mpho6573 its still same class and spec under regulation so they are modified on par. only the 1st winner a bit difference its modified for handicaped driver, he use throttle and brake by hand since the driver is a cripple and use wheelchair, still won 1st place though..
Look, I prefer the ranger interior myself…I like tech. but how can you ignore the triton for payload, off road capability (if you use settings right), and just crazy value? $10k cheaper, double warranty period… it’s a tight race between ranger and triton for me, the more mature and financially responsible me would take the triton straight away.
The biggest issue is the add ons make the toyota next to useless if you need to tow a larger laod unless you get a GVM GCM upgrade even then that makes it about the same as the rest of utes without the upgrade.
I have just replaced a 2021 Hilux with a 2024 Ranger, night & Day, I loved the hilux but the ranger is so much better in every way. And before you go on about Toyota reliability mine spent 3 months at a Toyota dealer getting the rear differential rebuilt - long wait was for parts !!!
It's interesting that the alleged 1%-ers were the things that separated the Ranger from the Amarok, yet it's those very 1%-ers that convinced me to order an Amarok Pan Americana. Roll-top tonneaus take up valuable tub space, so not having one is a bonus. I have ordered an older style soft tonneau that will provide adequate coverage for anything I will be carrying in the tub. The lack of 12V and lighting that will be in a tub exposed to weather is not loss. Just something else to go wrong. The Amarok was the most comfortable of the vehicles I could test drive (please note Ford did not provide a test drive despite six (6) of enquiries) and the layout in the Amarok was perfect and sensible from the moment I sat in the driver's seat. If you want to be as common and as flashy as all the other "suits in Utes" then you buy a Ranger. But if you want a stylish finish while driving on sealed surfaces or tackling the tough tracks off-road, you buy the Amarok...and you do it all in stylish European chic!!!
“What about all these?” The fact you leave out the extremely popular GWM Cannon and LDV T60 says it all. Afraid of a bit of competition to your usual favourites of Hilux/Ranger winning everything?
@@carsalesthat's not a particularly objective approach, sounds like you made up your mind even before you did the review. Did the owners of your channel not approve of including Chinese made cars?
You could have made the BT50 and Triton look good if you'd included a Great Wall, LDV and a SSanyong. Also, why no Navara? Lastly, why would you pay more for a car that is and most people would know is essentially a Ranger.
Such a large test but considering 80-90% of use is just driving around town in and out of traffic you didn’t cover any of that? Things like the latest hilux takes 3-4 seconds to get going when you stamp the throttle this gets tiresome when you drive a lot. Also the driver distraction monitor in each what’s it like? Lane departure in the new ranger is actually awesome whereas the hilux tried to swerve me off the road at a corner.
you know I could be wrong but I thought I saw bp51 remote res shocks on one of your cars, how is that fair testing? did all the cars have this upgrade?
I don’t understand how you had the rear locker engaged in the Mazda because when you watch the footage from the camera pointing back from the front right you can clearly see the rear right hand side tyre not spinning when you were attempting to power out.. it was meant to be in 4L meaning the centre diff locks the front the rear, so that front wheel should not be turning any faster than the rear and because you claim to have the rear locker in both the rear wheels should be turning as fast as that front tyre. I think you were telling lies about the locker being used.
Triton is the smart mans choice....the others are heavily marketed and poorly engineered utes that no one in their right minds should own outside of the warranty period.
As someone who went from a Hilux SR and then spent all there money on a new model BT50. There is almost nothing about the BT50 that is better than the Hilux.
Good spot but that was an odd audio issue rather than any issue with the car. It seems the audio recorder was using its external speaker rather than the mic
Should have been titled, End of an era. The new generation of utes coming on stream will smash all of these guys. All of the big names have been raking in the dollars for a couple of badges, stickers and bigger wheels. When you're all singing from the same book of hymens, it opens the door for some shark to rip the competition apart. New companies are going to eat them alive with better tech, quality interiors, more power, warranty and when it come to value for money, these old trucks will be left sitting in showrooms. Those that are silly enough to have brand loyalty will be left in the dust.
Literally had the dif locked with the ranger it couldn’t make it up the hill without it. Then the d max walked up without rough terrain mode on and everyone knows how bad the d max traction control is. You still call ford the winner lmao
Ssangyong Musso XLV Ultimate Luxury. Heated & cooled front & rear premium leather seats. Electric adjustable front seats. Sunroof. Large touch screen infotainment system. 360 degree cameras. Lane departure warning system. Premium sound system. Rear diff lock. 3.5 tonne braked towing capacity. Coil sprung suspension for better articulation & raising. 7years unlimited warranty & 7 years fixed price service. All the bells & whistles 30k less than the base models offered by other manufacturers. Oh & don't forget where the others are assembled these days..😂
They weren't left out, they were tested the same as the other five but they don't stack up to the same level. If you're interested in those models particularly we have single-car reviews to give you all the info you need.
I just went from a Navara to a Hilux, prefer the Navara, Hilux a generation behind, access less than ideal, bumpy ride. Both Navara and Hilux past their useby date. This is why it was a waste of time bringing these to the test.
@TonyHoyle-yx8eg thanks for the response, it's hard to get info these days, my priorities likely differ from this test, I work remote at times and need a 10 year+ workhorse without v8 fuel economy, and hopefully something that doesn't get me killed in the desert after 250,000k 👍
Whenever carsales does an ute comparison you know the winner will be a Ranger. They excluded the Hilux saying it’s not good enough before the comparison? A joke.
For the price tag, the Ranger should have heated AND ventilated seats not just heated. And there’s really no excuse for any Ute not to have a soft open (dampened) tailgate. Having it just drop down bang is just plain 80s and lame. There’s far too much wheel spin in these Utes before the traction control kicks in. Also - why are they still making Utes that turn off TCS on the front axle when the rear-locker is engaged?
If you are going to do a comparison, trial all vehicles. If the $40k vehicle is just as good as an $80k vehicle, then it is better value for money. Let the public decide if one price level should be excluded. Don't make the call for us!
The Triton Impressed me the most. Nicest car for me and the biggest difference to its predecessor. I can not really understand how it is only 4th Place, it managed everything well and in the tables of informations it is the cheapest and also the most positive with the best values.
An unbiased UTE test where the Hilux is not included, a legend like the Triton comes 4th, neither first or second place is Japanese, the Amarok comes 2nd ?? 😂
Isuzu and Mazda the same thing👍
Driving experience The winner best Mitsubishi Triton first choice, Ford ranger second choice Nissan third choice Isuzu D-MAX number four choice Toyota Hilux fifth, Mazda bt50 Volkswagen amarok in the middle choice,Fiat fullback and Fiat titano is also the same doublet of Mitsubishi triton.
I just received my triton. I love the on road experience. Can’t wait for an off road experience
@julianmelan85 very good
Triton all day everyday.
Definitely, and it's the only one with 10 year/200,000km warranty.
The VW definitely has a Gate Warranty; as soon as you drive it out of the dealership gates, it expires!
In the Ranger, 4A isn't "centre diff unlocked". There is no centre diff. It uses a clutch pack to drive the front wheels. 4A is an on demand AWD setting not a full time AWD setting like the 4H in the Triton.
Having owned, driven and towed with a MN and MR Triton, driven a MV Triton, owned, driven and towed with a V6 Ranger Wildtrak, there is a noticeable difference in feel and performance between the Mitsi SS2 and the Ford 4A systems. The Mitsi is the superior in my experience.
Regardless, making comments implying the Ford has a centre diff or that the systems are similar in operation undermines your authority to offer any sort of informed review. 5 min of googling would have given you an understanding of how the systems operate. The Fords torque distribution display would also have shown that 4A is not constant AWD.
Triton uses physical buttons for controls whilst still offering a touch screen, thats a massive plus over the ranger and amarok
smart move, I'd pick a couple of buttons over a way better driveline....hahaha
@@sandmonkey1243ahah fords driveline💀💀💀💀💀 only Utes we get in the shop is Fords
@@ethanvanzyl2944 Glad i got an Amarok.
There are manual operation in the Ranger I have one.
Agree on the Amarok but the Ranger does offer buttons for all audio and AC controls. Apart from heated and cooled seat buttons, demist buttons, the Triton doesn;t seem to offer anything extra on buttons.
I like Triton
A thorough review with a degree of fairness and pragmatism, thanks.
Triton here we come
First and second place are vehicles built by manufacturers that have terrible reliability history... make sure you sell them before the warranty runs out to people who have no idea how terrible they'll be out of warranty 😅😅
Ahhhh.. sure... afer 300,000 km or 10 years Isuzu engige will be perfect... I dont know about Ford engine...
Which company has a billion dollar law suit for selling vehicles for 5 years with known issues🤔,its flag ship ,extortionate costing vehicles drink oil quicker than we can a beer🤔.1990s reliability tractors was some time ago .
my brother in law buys amaroks for his business and has done well over 700,000km on all of them
Should've set the proper Drive Mode first before proceeding, Mitsubishi clearly told how it would be the basis for the tune of its M-ASTC. So the first part of the Triton's off-road test was clearly a driver skill issue.
Even in 4HLc, the M-ASTC system will stick to road tune if the Drive Mode wasn't set to the proper terrain.
Overall package, the Ranger will feel superior at first but definitely would want to opt for something more capable especially off-road and with peace of mind for long-term ownership. That's clearly and definitely not the Ford :)
Triton impressive as usual , the drive mode selection is definitely important when going offroad.
Car expert paul got the same issues you got when doing the offroad test ,
the difference is he didnt understand how the mode selection works for the triton.
He didnt figure out to use the mud mode when doing the offroad test in 4hlc when the wheels were losing traction.
He also didnt use 4llc , for the offroad test when its clearly the mode everyone will use for heavy offroading.
he didnt understand how to engage the mode selection between modes because the modes were not engaging
He didnt understand how to engage the hand brake , because the triton was rolling backwards on his hill test.
Paul failed to at least understand how to use the drive modes, which only involves simple pressing of a button to change, hence why the Triton performed poorly.
This guy on the other hand, also miserably failed to use common sense but kicked in on the latter part.
Common theme among aussie reviewers it seems. Yet the Super Select II system has been around for a while now, and nothing has changed with the system as a whole. I've used mine offroad a few times now (MV GSR Triton) and have had zero issues. There is definitely an aspect of user error, yet it's such a simple system to use 🤷🏾♂️
@MiggyMndza I think it's a good thing that this guy fumbled a bit, reason being , he confirmed that the modes in the new mv triton are very important when performing specific tasks.
For instance in regular 4h sand or snow the traction control is not aggressively tuned because this is the mode you would be using on the highway, so if one wheel loses traction in snow or rain
It won't aggressively send power to the other wheels which could cause the entire vehicle to fish tail or spin out of control
But when you are on a trail, the mud mode tunes the traction control aggressively , so if you are going Over an obstacle , it will break the outside wheel to send more power If the other wheels are not touching the ground
And off course 4llc just turns the mv triton into an offroad beast with no fuss.
Paul from car expert could not figure this out , and instead of admitting he is at fault for lack of understanding, he blames the vehicle.
I give carsales credit for showing us how the new mv triton modes really operate in the real world.
@@warcrabcyber9908 . Definitely the use of the modes does help, not a bad thing! One thing with the carexpert review is when switching modes from 2H to 4H, it was done stationary and in gear......this instantly won't allow the system to changeover and one of the reasons he had trouble, but proceeded to give it a bad wrap. Also, the stock tyres that come on the GLS and GSR are the most horrible tyre I've ever driven on. While they are marketed as an All-Terrain, they are anything but that. A slightly damp road had me sideways with those tyres at granny's pace on at least 3 occasions. I've since gotten rid of them and have had far more grip in the wet. So if they are that bad on the road, imagine off road where the surface is loose. While I would have absolutely loved a Wildtrak, my MV GSR has been incredible and zero regrets with it's abilities. Not too mention saved myself some coin over the price gouging from local Ford dealers.
Hahahahaha Triton 4th, what a joke 😂
Mitsubishi mustn’t have paid you nearly as much as Ford.
Manufacturers should hire the engineer behind the TC and SuperSelect on Mitsubishi's, they never miss!! S-AWC on the Outlander works wonders especially on on-road handling, not even Symmetrical AWD on the Forester and on the Ascent can come close to it!!
Just got a Triton this week loving it
I got the ranger wildtrak v6 last year. Is an awesome thing. The tub absolutely rules and makes all the other utes look prehistoric. Its got power, plenty of tie downs, lights at night time and those side steps are the best.
If Toyota or nissan or any new ute in the next few years dont add those side steps they are idiots. Revolutionary for those who actually use the tub.
Hopefully it doesn't have any warranty issues😬
Have meet many Wildtrak owners who have vowed never to buy another one. Sounds like you are another that have been sucked in by the Ford propaganda.
@@jeppo1185 Another ford hater
@@CharlesLeyton-eh5ex Another ford hater I have met may probably more who would buy another one this is my second
@@Sabumnim666 I own, drive and love my ford focus.
Ford's reputation, is what it is
triton has best reliability and customer care for sure but i still think it could be heaps better. i dont understand why mitsy have not taken it to the next level. they know they can wipe the floor with all the others but just have an agenda thats set to be the greenest and thats it. to keep that 2.4 ( yes its been more given more power etc etc), but i still feel they have slapped the mitsy purist in the face. may be enough power for most but i still feel dissapointed. anyhow thats my rant.
The Triton's value is unbeatable
It's surprising to see the absence of certain models, including the Hilux (the country's second-best-selling ute), the LDV T60 Max with its new plus version featuring coil spring rear suspension, the GWM Cannon XSR, and the new GWM Alpha with factory front diff lock. It seems car sales need to do their homework, as the average buyer cannot afford high-end options like the Ranger or Amarok. Hopefully, CarExpert will include all models in their upcoming ute test, providing a more comprehensive comparison for consumers.
You’ve got to be joking? LDV and GMW are owned by the CCP. Nobody wants to be funding the upcoming invasion of Taiwan. These brands are irrelevant
Yup, GWM Alpha for me
You obviously didn't bother to watch the video for 2min, smart guy
As they said at the start of the video. They were only using vehicles at around the $75k price point. The Hilux GR Sport has poor pay load, very expensive services and is well behind the others in terms of features and on-road driving. The GWM Aplha wasn't released when they did the video.
Well ranger is the top selling Ute so it would seem the average buyer can afford it lol
Triton is good❤❤❤
Fords marketing budget is no joke 😅
🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣
Im convinced this channel is being heavily funded by them (Ford)
@@Levi-c6f its not only this channel that says the ford is the best on offer you know.
@@leoesposito8762they also don't tell you about the lawsuits going on about the Ranger over serious safety issues.
@@davidsmith9440 lawsuits? that's first time i heard that ...
I first met Shaun Whale at a 4x4 show in Brisbane 6 years ago. We got to chatting about Hilux's and met for coffee that night. We went for a walk in the park, talked about wheeling, held hands and watched the sunset. Shaun is an amazing guy and I will never forget that day.
Great comparison, thanks. As a recent BT50 buyer... I'd have been interested in a more comprehensive look at all the driver assist tech in these and how useful or intrusive they are. They are definitely not all created equal
I recently bought an Amarok Style model. I did consider a Ranger, but the waiting time was too long.
Had my heart set on a V6, but the two top model Amaroks were out of my price range.
Unfortunately the Style is not available with the V6 in New Zealand, but very happy with the bi turbo 2 litre.
It's a joy to drive and economical too. It tows my 3 tonne caravan good.
How’s the gearbox going ? The one I had would go into neutral at times when I’d slow down then go to accelerate again like it didn’t know what gear to be in
@@behindthebuild8016 at 5000km, no problems yet.
13:13 sent that side step up to heaven 🤣
I feel the VW Amarok Style is the better pick over the Pan-Americana. Option it with the leather and it's significantly cheaper only missing out on the premium sound. However even the non leather seats look and feel fantastic and arguably more comfortable.
I brought a VW Amarok Style for that very reason and I have no regrets. Great ute!!
I bought for the triton!
Good review. Practical, down to earth commentary. Enjoyed it. Who cares about Hilux. 6 month services and the Toyota tax. Enough already said about it.
I know nothing about these, I drive a sedan. But these videos are educational.
I love reviews like this - Keeps the muppets buying Ford and Toyotas spending crazy $ on Ute's that don't give you value for money.
This reduces the $ on Ute's people in the know actually want like the Tritons and we end up getting a fantastic Ute for a great price.
Keep up the good work
Toyotas are cheap to buy
Why am I here? 😂 I am not even lining in AU 😅
Triton is the best. 😊
Bought to you by our sponsors the Ford motor company 😂😂
I have a few freinds that swapped the Hilux for the Ranger and Ranger Raptor and they seem to all be very happy with the swap
I haven’t watched the video yet but I can tell you Ranger is the winner. Good or bad?
KIA will give 7 years full warranty on the Tasman ? That would be impressiv !!!!
But when it comes to being a ute Triton is the best payload fuel economy price and warranty
And you can leave it in full-time 4WD without blowing up the transmission, not like most the others.
The only people who don't like Tritons are the people who have never driven one.
They look like a dogs breakfast. Id rather drive a grandma around
Where is the category for reliability? That would know ford well and truly off the purch that it has been put on. Yes have driven it and a magnificent vehicle but if it cannot do 400,000km without massive failures and costing a fortune, then……why would you purchase one? For work or play ?
Enjoyed the coverage of the vid. Was comprehensive but needed is the reliability and long term cost of ownership. Please update your categories.
I love most ppl will be looking forward to the updated vid, including reliability and long term cost of ownership….😀
Another big call so go out and get real facts and back them up not just My Mate said rubbish.
I don’t understand all this ranger reliability bullcrap. Mine has 280k kms and have had zero, that’s right zero issues. The Hilux I had prior every dealership service there was something else they would “find” that needed replaced. I admit I do a lot of kms and sit idle a fair bit which they said stuffs the DPF apparently.
@@darrensmith4661 I should have mentioned mine is the px model. 3.2l.
Use it for work, rarely off-road but couple beach runs and trails through the bush. Best car I’ve owned as far as reliability and just day to day comfortable rig to drive. Maybe the newer models with the 10 speed aren’t so great. Time will tell as It’s upgrade time and can’t wait for the new Hilux and the only other I would consider is a dmax. Tritons and navaras I’ve had in the past were absolute rubbish. Just little things like hose clamps failing but enough to have to have them tilt trayed back to the dealer. Costing me thousands of $ missed work due to being a contractor.
2L Ranger has a few pretty common engine and box oil related issues though, and not minor ones either.
Do tell what are they exactly the bi turbo engine has been very reliable especially compared to the other makes.
The Ranger being my favourite let me see how it's gonna fare in this
Traction control should replace the diff lock for new 4wd. Why would TC be included with all 4wd modes? TC prevents drive slip by stopping the free spinning wheel. This saves the extra modification to diffs to achieve all wheels driving regardless. I cant understand why TC is switched of in critical situations. Do they have test tracks after their assembly lines???
As someone who owns a current BT 50 but has a current Hilux work vehicle. Hilux is better in every aspect. Especially power and torque. BT or the Isuzu is a poor especially if you want to tow.
Hilux is built for work and durability…it amazes me that these reviewers focus on screens and infotainment rather than off-road abilities and reliability in a 4wd workhorse segment 🤷
I had a Hilux, then new model BT50 then now back in a Hilux. I couldn’t agree more.
BT50 was so cheaply made. Only thing better was that the seats were comfy. I hated driving being in it so much that sold it a year later.
About 5 secs on towing and all we got to see was the Ford.
Would have been useful to see each model towing about 2.5t.
Agreed but when there is a V6 600Nm Ranger in the comp, the rest are not in the same ball park. But it would have been interesting to see how they all performed relative to each other.
Isuzu D max Rough Terrian Mode Perceft🔥💪💪
I’d still choose a Toyota , I drove a mates Rugged X after a long day of fishing and driving in the rain coming up the Clyde mountains it felt good better than my daily drive my Toyota Fortuner.
If you drove a Pajero Sport you would never drive another Fortuner.
Wait till you drive the ranger or new triton both worlds ahead of the hilux
Where is the off-road park you use ? Can the public attend ?
Triton wins!
Better value proposition. Better durability, better in maintenance, better fuel economy and you can customize it a lot to add extra comfort off-road and work features
“It wouldn’t be fair to use these vastly cheaper models” fair to who?
Zero Bias lol
Those cheaper models. There's absolutely merit in those cheaper utes but buyers considering spending $70K+ on a ute aren't shopping in that segment,
Tittle change to best if you pay 70k plus for pick up
They wouldn't feature well in comparison.
People who have done the right thing worked hard and can drop 70k on a ute.. who else ?
strange that the diff locks are not working in any of the vehicles . diff locks lock diffs so both wheels spin together if one wheel lifts the other one spins
I would like to note for any US Manufacturers, I am interested in this type of vehicle and would buy one.
Triton got 3rd place in Asian rally without modification before release. Its a different story when taken these trucks to the desert isn't it.
I agree.
Of the first 26 Dakar Rallies (when it was a 20,000+km event) Mitsubishi won 12 times in bog standard Pajero's hence they were crowned "King Of The Desert"... then they changed the rules.
My Pajero Sport spends a couple of months every year in the Central Australian desert country... mud holes, sand dunes, gravel... absolutely loves it.
@@eoin1959 but why is it that most reviewer want trucks to drive like luxury sedens?
yet the 1st and 2nd winner is a fortuner hehe...
@@billyd1773dz modified excessively unrealistically it will never be sold like that. Original is a death trap offroad that's why i sold mine 😂
@@mpho6573 its still same class and spec under regulation so they are modified on par. only the 1st winner a bit difference its modified for handicaped driver, he use throttle and brake by hand since the driver is a cripple and use wheelchair, still won 1st place though..
Look, I prefer the ranger interior myself…I like tech. but how can you ignore the triton for payload, off road capability (if you use settings right), and just crazy value? $10k cheaper, double warranty period… it’s a tight race between ranger and triton for me, the more mature and financially responsible me would take the triton straight away.
My choice is the Hilux Rogue, and it didn't even have to make an appearance.
100%
I agree
The biggest issue is the add ons make the toyota next to useless if you need to tow a larger laod unless you get a GVM GCM upgrade even then that makes it about the same as the rest of utes without the upgrade.
I have just replaced a 2021 Hilux with a 2024 Ranger, night & Day, I loved the hilux but the ranger is so much better in every way. And before you go on about Toyota reliability mine spent 3 months at a Toyota dealer getting the rear differential rebuilt - long wait was for parts !!!
Drove a mates Hilux Rouge last month. Doesn't come close to the V6 Ranger. The new model needs to get here and fast.
It's interesting that the alleged 1%-ers were the things that separated the Ranger from the Amarok, yet it's those very 1%-ers that convinced me to order an Amarok Pan Americana. Roll-top tonneaus take up valuable tub space, so not having one is a bonus. I have ordered an older style soft tonneau that will provide adequate coverage for anything I will be carrying in the tub. The lack of 12V and lighting that will be in a tub exposed to weather is not loss. Just something else to go wrong. The Amarok was the most comfortable of the vehicles I could test drive (please note Ford did not provide a test drive despite six (6) of enquiries) and the layout in the Amarok was perfect and sensible from the moment I sat in the driver's seat.
If you want to be as common and as flashy as all the other "suits in Utes" then you buy a Ranger. But if you want a stylish finish while driving on sealed surfaces or tackling the tough tracks off-road, you buy the Amarok...and you do it all in stylish European chic!!!
“What about all these?”
The fact you leave out the extremely popular GWM Cannon and LDV T60 says it all.
Afraid of a bit of competition to your usual favourites of Hilux/Ranger winning everything?
Maybe they realised that most Australians don’t buy cars from irrelevant brands that are owned by the Chinese Communist Party.
Not at all, but comparing a $45-50K ute with $70-75K utes is apples and oranges.
@@carsalesthat's not a particularly objective approach, sounds like you made up your mind even before you did the review. Did the owners of your channel not approve of including Chinese made cars?
Did the triton pick up 300kg in weight vs the one it replaces?
You could have made the BT50 and Triton look good if you'd included a Great Wall, LDV and a SSanyong. Also, why no Navara? Lastly, why would you pay more for a car that is and most people would know is essentially a Ranger.
What happened to ineos quartermaster why did you not include
Can't call this an ultimate test if you are not testing all similar utes on the market... Nothing here on realibility or durability, either...
Without ALL the competition how can you call it BEST for 2024? Pointless video.
And they didn’t even include a Hilux, even having options like Rogue, GRS
@@joejoaquinpoletti2660Watch more than 1min 45sec of the video and you’ll see they didn’t think HiLux was good enough to be among these finalists.
Because the others are pointless
@@joejoaquinpoletti2660 I’ve been driving the new hilux and honestly it feels like I’m driving a brand new decade old car.
@@indeepeterhopwood8106 GWM CANNON ALPHA ULTRA IS BETTER THAN THEM ALL
Such a large test but considering 80-90% of use is just driving around town in and out of traffic you didn’t cover any of that? Things like the latest hilux takes 3-4 seconds to get going when you stamp the throttle this gets tiresome when you drive a lot. Also the driver distraction monitor in each what’s it like? Lane departure in the new ranger is actually awesome whereas the hilux tried to swerve me off the road at a corner.
you know I could be wrong but I thought I saw bp51 remote res shocks on one of your cars, how is that fair testing? did all the cars have this upgrade?
Boring. I want to see all the models. Maybe you don’t have to spend big coin to get something that will still do the job.
Check your graph 7:25 ,The D-Max doesn't have wireless charging. I think it does in Thailand but not here...
Apologies, you are correct as standard, but it is offered as a genuine accessory.
@@carsales Thanks, I didn't know it was an option. Just ordered one so I will tick that box :)
GWM P-SERIES 2.0TD is a very strong vehicle and is powerful for a 2.0 why will it be unfair to who???
Keen to see a towing test.
That is very much on the agenda!
Dmax you said rear lock on and on video rear tire was not spinning weach means rear locker was not activated
I don’t understand how you had the rear locker engaged in the Mazda because when you watch the footage from the camera pointing back from the front right you can clearly see the rear right hand side tyre not spinning when you were attempting to power out.. it was meant to be in 4L meaning the centre diff locks the front the rear, so that front wheel should not be turning any faster than the rear and because you claim to have the rear locker in both the rear wheels should be turning as fast as that front tyre. I think you were telling lies about the locker being used.
I thought the 2024 Bt-50 includes the rough terrain mode like the dmax??
This is correct it does but they don't arrive until late in the year and the model tested was an MY23 that lacked it.
bt50 have upgraded suspension it looks like??
Triton is the smart mans choice....the others are heavily marketed and poorly engineered utes that no one in their right minds should own outside of the warranty period.
No SsangYong Musso?
Found the camera work a bit frustrating, showing the driver so much instead of the outside of the car going up the 4wd sections
As someone who went from a Hilux SR and then spent all there money on a new model BT50. There is almost nothing about the BT50 that is better than the Hilux.
Engine reliability on your winners?
Is it just me , but the cabin noise sounded louder in the dmax on the road section. Could be lots of reasons for that but just saying.
Good spot but that was an odd audio issue rather than any issue with the car. It seems the audio recorder was using its external speaker rather than the mic
@@carsales would have been good to do 0-100 and 80-120 over taking as we use these utes to drive everyday even brake test and handling would good
Where is the ute?
The only truck worth looking at is the ranger/VW. The rest look a generation old with tiny engines.
Canon Alpha is here?
Should have been titled, End of an era. The new generation of utes coming on stream will smash all of these guys. All of the big names have been raking in the dollars for a couple of badges, stickers and bigger wheels. When you're all singing from the same book of hymens, it opens the door for some shark to rip the competition apart. New companies are going to eat them alive with better tech, quality interiors, more power, warranty and when it come to value for money, these old trucks will be left sitting in showrooms. Those that are silly enough to have brand loyalty will be left in the dust.
Please tell me where I can get "The Book of Hymens" sounds like more fun than watching ute comparisons 😂
Wasn't sticking around for the Hilux???
Literally had the dif locked with the ranger it couldn’t make it up the hill without it. Then the d max walked up without rough terrain mode on and everyone knows how bad the d max traction control is. You still call ford the winner lmao
Triton the only one with AdBlue in this test?
Yup, Euro 6 emissions. Others are Euro 5 or V6 Petrol so no Ad blue.
No. Amarok and ranger definately have ad blue since they are also euro 6
How come the amaroc and ranger got the v6 when they have a 4 cylinder it’s like comparing apples and oranges,
Surprisingly because that is what they come with and the others don't pretty simple.
Ssangyong Musso XLV Ultimate Luxury.
Heated & cooled front & rear premium leather seats. Electric adjustable front seats.
Sunroof.
Large touch screen infotainment system.
360 degree cameras.
Lane departure warning system.
Premium sound system.
Rear diff lock.
3.5 tonne braked towing capacity.
Coil sprung suspension for better articulation & raising.
7years unlimited warranty & 7 years fixed price service.
All the bells & whistles 30k less than the base models offered by other manufacturers.
Oh & don't forget where the others are assembled these days..😂
What about the gladiator?
Thought the new Dmax comes with 360 cam. 🤷
We know why Toyota and Nissan were left out, this isn't an impartial test, agreement's shouldn't matter
They weren't left out, they were tested the same as the other five but they don't stack up to the same level. If you're interested in those models particularly we have single-car reviews to give you all the info you need.
@@carsales so there is another 2024 model test before hand, thanks I'll check it out
I just went from a Navara to a Hilux, prefer the Navara, Hilux a generation behind, access less than ideal, bumpy ride.
Both Navara and Hilux past their useby date.
This is why it was a waste of time bringing these to the test.
@TonyHoyle-yx8eg thanks for the response, it's hard to get info these days, my priorities likely differ from this test, I work remote at times and need a 10 year+ workhorse without v8 fuel economy, and hopefully something that doesn't get me killed in the desert after 250,000k 👍
They didn't make the cut and everyone knows they would have fought for last position in this test.
Whenever carsales does an ute comparison you know the winner will be a Ranger. They excluded the Hilux saying it’s not good enough before the comparison? A joke.
For the price tag, the Ranger should have heated AND ventilated seats not just heated.
And there’s really no excuse for any Ute not to have a soft open (dampened) tailgate. Having it just drop down bang is just plain 80s and lame.
There’s far too much wheel spin in these Utes before the traction control kicks in. Also - why are they still making Utes that turn off TCS on the front axle when the rear-locker is engaged?
its not fair review when BT 50 has Old Man Emu B51 shocks
The bakkie a firm favourite down under .
Amarok TDI550 Highline 2020 laughing at this dinosaurs
Still had SR5 or Rouge to compete talk about tall poppy syndrome
am I a complete knob and miss it, why is there no Hilux?
Watch the start. He says why. 😊
Isuzu Dmax is the Best of UTE.
Id like to see 10 year old utes do the same off road course
Comparing V6 to 4 is a little strange.
ford marketing strategy isnt a joke
I heard Amarok are dropping the V6 diesel option soon?
Doubt it. Why would they?
If you are going to do a comparison, trial all vehicles.
If the $40k vehicle is just as good as an $80k vehicle, then it is better value for money.
Let the public decide if one price level should be excluded. Don't make the call for us!
😂if you think hilux is not on top 2 , you should stop talking about ute. See last 2 decade sales record of hilux worldwide.