I have a 2017 Allez Sprint and I love it!! I put on a Hunt 36/50 wheels and the bike is flying. I have done plenty of 7+ hour of riding with a lot of clombing, because of Smartweld way of welding, the bike is very stiff but forgiving. I love the feeling how Allez handle the corners, especialy when you going fast. It's a incredible machine :)
I had it down to the Allez Sprint Disc vs the TCR Advanced 2 Rim last year. The TCR in that case was clearly a much better value and probably the better bike overall but the Sprint just has a little more 'soul'.
These are the two bikes I was cross-shopping. I ended up with the allez sprint. I upgraded the wheels/tires, seat, stem, bars/tape, cassette, brakes, rear derailleur and now I couldn't be happier. My $1550 bike quickly turned into a $3k bike 😄
@@ShaneAlfreds we went opposites on the component material composition 😃 ...I originally wanted a carbon stem, but they all seemed very pricey and not readily available in the spec I was looking for (130mm, -6°). I hadn't heard of pro vibe. I'll check them out. My next bike will definitely be more of an endurance geometry, but then again, any geometry in comparison to an allez would be considered endurance 😁
I've got the 2019 Allez Sprint Comp and I love it! It came with the longer cage rear derailleur so I do swap in an 11-32 cassette for long, hilly rides. I have done plenty of 4+ hour rides on it and even a 150 km hilly Gran Fondo. My only complaint with it as a crit bike is the stem and bar are pretty noodley. I put on a Pro Sprint carbon stem and Pro Sprint bar which is what the bike deserves. Next up is some stiffer wheels.
I have ridden both bikes, both at 16lbs. The giant can be made lighter but when both are 16lbs the allez is so much stiffer. I absolutely love my allez sprint built with red mech and clx50 wheels topped with schwalbe pro one tubless tires. The only bike I've ever ridden that I liked as much or more was an sworks tarmac. But I have not ridden the top tcr yet. As far as comfort I have done 5 hours rides on the allez no problem. It all depends on your tires and wheels.
Hey. I really enjoy your presentation style. I recently bought a giant defy advanced pro disc 2 after breaking my previous bike, a giant defy advanced 2 disc. The pro is listed at virtually twice the price. I’d really like it if you did some analysis / comparison videos of each bike in a given range: Defy vs the rest of the defy range TCR vs the rest of the TCR range etc Cheers
Great video as always. RE: doing long days on the Allez Sprint Disc Comp, I did a very slow 220km ride (getting keto fat-adapted) on mine a couple weeks after I bought her. I had the added benefit of wide 21C carbon wheels with Schwalbe Pro One 28mm tubeless tyres, but it was nonetheless a very long day in the saddle, and was especially awkward given the excruciatingly slow pace. But I rate the bike as more comfortable than an almost identical length ride I did on my Propel Disc some months earlier, and about the same comfort level as my Defy Pro Disc (the Allez had more road feedback than the defy but its racey stiffness allowed me to stand up and slowly mash the pedals in top gear to relieve my undercarriage far more often and confidently; I'm a big lad at 194cm/120kg). Overall, it's a great all-round bike and is absolutely stunning value for money. Here's the ride file: www.strava.com/activities/2270783920
@@bikotic once you get properly fat-adapted it's actually blissful for the very long stuff. Instead of having a finite ~2000cal tank of muscle and liver glycogen, you have a virtually infinite tank of adipose tissue that numbers tens of thousands of calories in even the slimmest among us. All over the endurance sports world, records are tumbling to fat-adapted athletes. I wasn't doing it to qualify for Kona though haha (weightloss).
@@AussieCarsRule I have some pals that rowed across the Atlantic using this strategy, they have the record now so it deffo works - my problem is once I get on my bike I go as hard as possible everywhere, not worked out how to reign in my sugar burning competitive stupidity!
@@bikotic nice one! I think I read about those blokes. Amazing stuff. I know what you mean about the impulsive sugar burning; I too found it very hard to eschew fast bunch rides and road/crit races, but given my weight it was a greater good sort of thing, and it's very effective in that regard. That said, it is possible to be very keto and selectively use carbs (usually gels strategically taken on the bike) for the fast stuff, but it is a bit sketchy.
I own a 2017 TCR, and a 2017 sprint. I find the sprint to be a super comfortable bike not only for racing scenario but also for daily riding. I have done several centuries on the sprint and cannot say enough good things about it
the Allez Sprint is not nearly as uncomfortable as is generally stated. I have both that and a Madone SLR (rim). The Madone provides more comfort for many reasons but it is only noticeable on the very worst surfaces. I used to have a Trigon TR225 years ago and the Allez Sprint is much more comfortable than that. The Allez Sprint is a fast bike and devastatingly quick on accelerations.
@@ayowser01 Yes. I am planning to get an endurance /gravel bike once the market recovers. Roubaix/Diverge perhaps. Until then, my body will need some training and endure some more!
Always enjoy your comparisons. WRT ride quality of the allez, I would say this is not a bike for novices. While the price point is naturally cheaper than most carbon, it's ride feel is very agile and can be twitchy. Having said that, I built mine with custom parts, mid to high end, and the bike is best I have ridden. (riding for more than 30 years). What makes this bike better are good carbon rims and ideally tubeless tires 28c....
Great review. All day riding, last June I rode from Liverpool to St Bees(150miles) in one day and had no issues whatsoever on my Allez Sprint. As for climbing I fitted a 50/34 -11/30 for this ride which made it just as capable as any other bike I’ve ridden, this ride was 12,000ft elevation and took us over Wrynose and Hardknott after 130miles and anyone who knows these climbs will understand what I’m saying. 👍
Have the same configuration in my bike, I rode 145 miles with 9.650 ft. elevation, best ride ever in my allez it is a truly capable bike in every aspect.
As a former Allez Sprint owner, I got very excited when a 2020 Sprint Disc Comp box came into the shop I work at. Colleague of mine told me to grab a Torq Rhubarb and Custard energy gel as he called me over to see it built up. He held it up against the front fork and the Torq gel disappeared...
I own a 2018 custom Allez Sprint w/full DuraAce that I race primarily in crits though I did also do a 90 mile Gran Fondo on it. I have a 2014 full carbon Giant Propel with latest Ultegra Di2 on which I do road races and most of my Gran Fondos. I find that the Giant is better on the road and the Allez is incomparable in crits.
TCR is the DNA of all modern road bike you see running. It is a legend and a class well respected by pros and enthusiast. Allez is good to but between the 2, i'll take the TCR every damn time.
Would love a video on the Ripmo and/or Ripley line vs the Spectral! Your videos are some of the best, and would inspire a lot more of my confidence in this upcoming purchase decision.
Thanks for the nice comparison. How about Defy Advanced Pro 1 vs. Domane SL 6 or 7. I wonder which is the better set up as a race bike while still being able to tackle light gravel. Thanks!
I just last week purchased my first road bike. A Giant Contend 3 very entry level claris groupset 23lb alloy frame. More endurance setup, i feel like I could get more aero and still be comfy. Did i go wrong going entry level instead of 1$k-2$k range?
Contend is a really great bike. It is just the old defy more or less, as they dont make an alloy defy anymore. Upgrade components to 105 and it'd be a much better and more versatile bike than most out there imo.
I have full Claris on my Fuji and I don’t find myself missing anything. If you know how to keep the geoupset clean and crispy, it’ll shift great. My problem is the geometry and flex of the frame itself, but if you don’t have that problem, the Claris components are plenty fine for a long time.
Hi! Could you compare the cervelo S3 VS the canyon aeroad cf sl disc 8.0 etap And the Specialized tarmac disk pro VS the canyon ultimate cf sl disk 8.0 Di2 aero
I have owned both and tcr is the best climbing bike by far. The allez excels on gentle rollers 3-4%. IMO if you do more than 5% of your ride over 10% gradient then choose the tcr.
@@kuanhau4323 I agree. I just sold my 2019 specialized allez sprint comp. My 2018 giant tcr advance disk KOM feels smoother. The Allez felt lighter but I still have stock pr2 wheels on my giant.
Sorry to keep commenting on old vids but I love your channel and hope you make more soon. I'm just a working class Joe. I have no $. If I did I would back u up, because I think you're awesome. So I hope you're inspired by some weird American that's enamored with you! 🤔
Giant have been a bit cheeky over the past few years with the TCR Disc - they've kept the same frame for years, they moved from a full hydraulic brake set up to their in-house Contend cable-pull hydraulic actuated abomination, then when they got slated for that moved back to full hyds but downgraded the crank set. Plus they charge £100 more for the pleasure. Poor form Giant. Also, the Gavia tyres are actually pretty quick.... but they're also absolutely lethal in the wet! They lasted a few sketchy moments before getting binned.
@@bikotic 2017 disc models were all full hyd, 2018 The Advanced 2 105 was Conduct/cable, Advanced 1 Ultegra was full hyd (and Ultegra crankset), 2019 Advanced 1 & 2 were both Conduct, 2020 both back to full hyd but with lower range components elsewhere. If you avoid a 2019 model you'll be fine 👍 Great vids btw!
I own this bike in nice blue I love it I can stay with the fastest groups even on climbs and 5-7 hour rides if your saying you can’t climb with this bike maybe it’s you who are too heavy not the bike
Rode the Allez sprint at my last half Ironman. TT rig took a spill so was left with that option. It’s a nice bike, has a very quick ride - not ultra stable descending 35mph + (though more my lacking skills probably ) and you definitely feel the tougher roads. On smooth roads it hauls , just not great (and not marketed) for long sustained efforts.
I love the allez sprint, but those colours are awfull. I believe those revulting colours are holding it back from selling a lot better. i own an older allez comp in matte black with white decals and it just looks so much better than that yellow red fantasy
TCR is the DNA of all modern road bike you see running. It is a legend and a class well respected by pros and enthusiast. Allez is good to but between the 2, i'll take the TCR every damn time.
I have a 2017 Allez Sprint and I love it!! I put on a Hunt 36/50 wheels and the bike is flying. I have done plenty of 7+ hour of riding with a lot of clombing, because of Smartweld way of welding, the bike is very stiff but forgiving. I love the feeling how Allez handle the corners, especialy when you going fast. It's a incredible machine :)
I’d take the TCR, however my next bike will not have a black paint job.......cmon guys we want reds, greens, blues etc
Agree. Black was cool for awhile but you’d get sick of it quick.
Most recent TCR Advanced Pro 1 is an incredible red and the Pro 2 is an eye wateringly beautiful blue.
Aluminum Greats - CAAD13 vs Allez Sprint... You have to do this...... Please ✌🏼♥️
Pro trick : you can watch series at flixzone. Been using it for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
@Terrell Ronin Yea, I have been watching on flixzone} for years myself =)
The best cycle comparison channel I’ve come across
I had it down to the Allez Sprint Disc vs the TCR Advanced 2 Rim last year. The TCR in that case was clearly a much better value and probably the better bike overall but the Sprint just has a little more 'soul'.
These are the two bikes I was cross-shopping. I ended up with the allez sprint. I upgraded the wheels/tires, seat, stem, bars/tape, cassette, brakes, rear derailleur and now I couldn't be happier. My $1550 bike quickly turned into a $3k bike 😄
I did the bars and stem as well, which did you choose. New wheels are next on my list.
@@ShaneAlfreds I'm using an aluminum SL Zipp stem and regular Specialized "Sworks" shallow-bend carbon bar.
@@ayowser01 nice, I went with the Pro Vibe Sprint carbon stem and Pro Vibe Spring alloy bars
@@ShaneAlfreds we went opposites on the component material composition 😃 ...I originally wanted a carbon stem, but they all seemed very pricey and not readily available in the spec I was looking for (130mm, -6°). I hadn't heard of pro vibe. I'll check them out. My next bike will definitely be more of an endurance geometry, but then again, any geometry in comparison to an allez would be considered endurance 😁
@@ayowser01 Pro is a brand that is part of Shimano, they make some really good stuff. I've bought 4 Pro Stealth saddles for my bikes.
I've got the 2019 Allez Sprint Comp and I love it! It came with the longer cage rear derailleur so I do swap in an 11-32 cassette for long, hilly rides. I have done plenty of 4+ hour rides on it and even a 150 km hilly Gran Fondo. My only complaint with it as a crit bike is the stem and bar are pretty noodley. I put on a Pro Sprint carbon stem and Pro Sprint bar which is what the bike deserves. Next up is some stiffer wheels.
How about caad 13 vs canyon ultimate?
Yup that's what I want to buy one of those maybe the canyon
I have ridden both bikes, both at 16lbs. The giant can be made lighter but when both are 16lbs the allez is so much stiffer. I absolutely love my allez sprint built with red mech and clx50 wheels topped with schwalbe pro one tubless tires. The only bike I've ever ridden that I liked as much or more was an sworks tarmac. But I have not ridden the top tcr yet. As far as comfort I have done 5 hours rides on the allez no problem. It all depends on your tires and wheels.
Love this. Would love to see a data set with visualizations showing progression of Specialized tarmac pricing through the years.
Hey. I really enjoy your presentation style. I recently bought a giant defy advanced pro disc 2 after breaking my previous bike, a giant defy advanced 2 disc. The pro is listed at virtually twice the price. I’d really like it if you did some analysis / comparison videos of each bike in a given range:
Defy vs the rest of the defy range
TCR vs the rest of the TCR range etc
Cheers
Great video as always. RE: doing long days on the Allez Sprint Disc Comp, I did a very slow 220km ride (getting keto fat-adapted) on mine a couple weeks after I bought her. I had the added benefit of wide 21C carbon wheels with Schwalbe Pro One 28mm tubeless tyres, but it was nonetheless a very long day in the saddle, and was especially awkward given the excruciatingly slow pace. But I rate the bike as more comfortable than an almost identical length ride I did on my Propel Disc some months earlier, and about the same comfort level as my Defy Pro Disc (the Allez had more road feedback than the defy but its racey stiffness allowed me to stand up and slowly mash the pedals in top gear to relieve my undercarriage far more often and confidently; I'm a big lad at 194cm/120kg). Overall, it's a great all-round bike and is absolutely stunning value for money.
Here's the ride file: www.strava.com/activities/2270783920
Crikey, no carbs sounds like torture mate!
@@bikotic once you get properly fat-adapted it's actually blissful for the very long stuff. Instead of having a finite ~2000cal tank of muscle and liver glycogen, you have a virtually infinite tank of adipose tissue that numbers tens of thousands of calories in even the slimmest among us. All over the endurance sports world, records are tumbling to fat-adapted athletes. I wasn't doing it to qualify for Kona though haha (weightloss).
@@AussieCarsRule I have some pals that rowed across the Atlantic using this strategy, they have the record now so it deffo works - my problem is once I get on my bike I go as hard as possible everywhere, not worked out how to reign in my sugar burning competitive stupidity!
@@bikotic nice one! I think I read about those blokes. Amazing stuff. I know what you mean about the impulsive sugar burning; I too found it very hard to eschew fast bunch rides and road/crit races, but given my weight it was a greater good sort of thing, and it's very effective in that regard. That said, it is possible to be very keto and selectively use carbs (usually gels strategically taken on the bike) for the fast stuff, but it is a bit sketchy.
I own a 2017 TCR, and a 2017 sprint.
I find the sprint to be a super comfortable bike not only for racing scenario but also for daily riding. I have done several centuries on the sprint and cannot say enough good things about it
the Allez Sprint is not nearly as uncomfortable as is generally stated. I have both that and a Madone SLR (rim). The Madone provides more comfort for many reasons but it is only noticeable on the very worst surfaces. I used to have a Trigon TR225 years ago and the Allez Sprint is much more comfortable than that. The Allez Sprint is a fast bike and devastatingly quick on accelerations.
Guess it depends how you define an all day riding. Personally my body was done after 130km ride/500m elevation with Allez Sprint.
That's too many miles to be on an allez sprint 😁
@@ayowser01 Yes. I am planning to get an endurance /gravel bike once the market recovers. Roubaix/Diverge perhaps. Until then, my body will need some training and endure some more!
@@bnzboy lol
Always enjoy your comparisons. WRT ride quality of the allez, I would say this is not a bike for novices. While the price point is naturally cheaper than most carbon, it's ride feel is very agile and can be twitchy. Having said that, I built mine with custom parts, mid to high end, and the bike is best I have ridden. (riding for more than 30 years). What makes this bike better are good carbon rims and ideally tubeless tires 28c....
Brilliant. Engaged and forthright, unlike ladish GCN posse with too many wheels to oil. Keep it coming.
Great review. All day riding, last June I rode from Liverpool to St Bees(150miles) in one day and had no issues whatsoever on my Allez Sprint. As for climbing I fitted a 50/34 -11/30 for this ride which made it just as capable as any other bike I’ve ridden, this ride was 12,000ft elevation and took us over Wrynose and Hardknott after 130miles and anyone who knows these climbs will understand what I’m saying. 👍
I do know what your saying, fairplay! That answers my question
Have the same configuration in my bike, I rode 145 miles with 9.650 ft. elevation, best ride ever in my allez it is a truly capable bike in every aspect.
As a former Allez Sprint owner, I got very excited when a 2020 Sprint Disc Comp box came into the shop I work at. Colleague of mine told me to grab a Torq Rhubarb and Custard energy gel as he called me over to see it built up. He held it up against the front fork and the Torq gel disappeared...
haha, I really had to think about this before it made sense!
I own a 2018 custom Allez Sprint w/full DuraAce that I race primarily in crits though I did also do a 90 mile Gran Fondo on it. I have a 2014 full carbon Giant Propel with latest Ultegra Di2 on which I do road races and most of my Gran Fondos. I find that the Giant is better on the road and the Allez is incomparable in crits.
I have the propel and sprint both from 2016, yes prefer the former for the road, simply smoother
TCR is the DNA of all modern road bike you see running. It is a legend and a class well respected by pros and enthusiast. Allez is good to but between the 2, i'll take the TCR every damn time.
Thanks for the comparison!!
What's the weight of the bike?
I love the look of the allez. I have been thinking of getting one for a while
Will Hill I have base model allez the red one it’s a good bike. Only 8 speeds tho
I have the 2019 and love it
Shane Alfreds it’s a good bike it’s probably the best bike u can buy for under 1k
Shane Alfreds just a heads up if u ride in the rain or get caught in the rain pick the bike up and drain the water out chain stay
Hi... I'm tall 179cm inseam 84/85cm... Which size for allez sprint comp?
Can you compare the BMC Teammachine SLR 01 disc four and
SCOTT addict 15 disc 2020..thanks in advance
New Giant TCR 2021 x tcr 2020 x other
Would love a video on the Ripmo and/or Ripley line vs the Spectral! Your videos are some of the best, and would inspire a lot more of my confidence in this upcoming purchase decision.
That allez sprint has the most beautiful paint job ive ever seen maybe behind the lime green madone. Idk what he is complaining about
Thanks for the nice comparison. How about Defy Advanced Pro 1 vs. Domane SL 6 or 7. I wonder which is the better set up as a race bike while still being able to tackle light gravel. Thanks!
Hi where do you get your graphics from? I need to look up a bike model, any help would be appreciated, thank you!
all the images come from manufacturer websites
What software do you use to do the comparison? Thx
I just last week purchased my first road bike. A Giant Contend 3 very entry level claris groupset 23lb alloy frame. More endurance setup, i feel like I could get more aero and still be comfy.
Did i go wrong going entry level instead of 1$k-2$k range?
It's a great bike man. Let everyone else throw their money away on super expensive bikes, you'll be right there with them if you keep fit enough.
Contend is a really great bike. It is just the old defy more or less, as they dont make an alloy defy anymore. Upgrade components to 105 and it'd be a much better and more versatile bike than most out there imo.
I have full Claris on my Fuji and I don’t find myself missing anything. If you know how to keep the geoupset clean and crispy, it’ll shift great. My problem is the geometry and flex of the frame itself, but if you don’t have that problem, the Claris components are plenty fine for a long time.
Any usd2k bike with lightweight wheels?
Could you do a comparison of 2 French brand : Origine Cycles
And S1neo cycles?
Hi! Could you compare the cervelo S3 VS the canyon aeroad cf sl disc 8.0 etap
And the
Specialized tarmac disk pro VS the canyon ultimate cf sl disk 8.0 Di2 aero
What if, Allez use for climbing??
I have owned both and tcr is the best climbing bike by far. The allez excels on gentle rollers 3-4%.
IMO if you do more than 5% of your ride over 10% gradient then choose the tcr.
Kuan Hau thank you, amazing review. Really appreciate
@@kuanhau4323 I agree. I just sold my 2019 specialized allez sprint comp. My 2018 giant tcr advance disk KOM feels smoother. The Allez felt lighter but I still have stock pr2 wheels on my giant.
@@smallnuts2 I just built up my 2021 TCR advanced pro and it is brilliant on climbs and rolling terrain.
Those 2 are cult classics.
Sorry to keep commenting on old vids but I love your channel and hope you make more soon. I'm just a working class Joe. I have no $. If I did I would back u up, because I think you're awesome. So I hope you're inspired by some weird American that's enamored with you! 🤔
haha, cheers!
Can u compare trek emonda sl with these tcr
it comes in handy when boondocking
Giant have been a bit cheeky over the past few years with the TCR Disc - they've kept the same frame for years, they moved from a full hydraulic brake set up to their in-house Contend cable-pull hydraulic actuated abomination, then when they got slated for that moved back to full hyds but downgraded the crank set. Plus they charge £100 more for the pleasure. Poor form Giant.
Also, the Gavia tyres are actually pretty quick.... but they're also absolutely lethal in the wet! They lasted a few sketchy moments before getting binned.
did the TCR have the horrible cable/hydraulic brakes!, didnt know that, revolting!
@@bikotic 2017 disc models were all full hyd, 2018 The Advanced 2 105 was Conduct/cable, Advanced 1 Ultegra was full hyd (and Ultegra crankset), 2019 Advanced 1 & 2 were both Conduct, 2020 both back to full hyd but with lower range components elsewhere.
If you avoid a 2019 model you'll be fine 👍
Great vids btw!
@@dodge3048 Cheers Dodge!
Agree, Giant game the specs so you need to look closely. The Gavias never last long before canvas shows either,they are super thin.
Enjoying your videos a lot. If you could do a review of Madone range and get your verdict on "best buy" it'd be very appreciated.
Tarmac vs TCR vs emonda?
I own this bike in nice blue I love it I can stay with the fastest groups even on climbs and 5-7 hour rides if your saying you can’t climb with this bike maybe it’s you who are too heavy not the bike
There is nothing wrong with the colour of the specialized. It's a nice looking bike .
Those Giant PR2 wheels are heavy. Throw on some Hunt 30 Aero Disc wheels, Schwalbe Pro tires and Ultegra Discs, and you'll drop over a Kg.
Spot on! 👍
Van rysel potenza kills both. And only £1995.
Giant released the new TCR recently.
Rode the Allez sprint at my last half Ironman. TT rig took a spill so was left with that option. It’s a nice bike, has a very quick ride - not ultra stable descending 35mph + (though more my lacking skills probably ) and you definitely feel the tougher roads. On smooth roads it hauls , just not great (and not marketed) for long sustained efforts.
I love the allez sprint, but those colours are awfull. I believe those revulting colours are holding it back from selling a lot better. i own an older allez comp in matte black with white decals and it just looks so much better than that yellow red fantasy
I also have last year's disc model in flat black with reflective silver lettering. It is hot!
My god the intro was even louder than Hambini. I'd buy a yoeleo frameset for a better price and without the bb30...
Canyon Ultimate VS Rose x-light six ( both disc of cause )
Allez sprint weight 8.7kg ... My trek emonda alr4 weight 9.4!!! NOoooo!!! Trek shit!!!
new TCR VS Tarmac VS Ultimate cf slx VS (2021 trek emonda)
Disc brakes ruined the look and the aerodynamic of the bicycles. 😞
Allez Sprint Vs TCR SLR ( rim brake)
Caad12.
Hi looks alot better when u see it in the concept store just needs a better set of rims
A 20lb carbon road bike... LMAO
Pleasssseee
TCR
First one here?
I guess
TCR is the DNA of all modern road bike you see running. It is a legend and a class well respected by pros and enthusiast. Allez is good to but between the 2, i'll take the TCR every damn time.
Hi looks alot better when u see it in the concept store just needs a better set of rims