sold Giant for 10 years of my life here(KSA) would go back to them in heartbeat. have 3 TCR Advanced SL ISP\s and a Propel Advanced SL ISP. the best bikes ive ever owned. when i joined Giant, i wasn't interested in riding something with a name like GIANT. test rode a TCR. was hooked. i have the original TCR Advanced T-Mobile(Majenta) "bands". she's a 2006 but can climb like a rocket. she weighs 7.5kg which is really good for a 2006.
Have the same frame and components in the 2018 KOM configuration. Light, awesome handling, and very comfortable on 100+ mile rides. Congrats on getting a great bargain.
Similar situation for myself, was in the market for a new bike and found a local shop in a different state that was selling a 2019 supersix evo in an unpopular color for $2000 USD. Ultegra comp., carbon seat post stem and bars, carbon wheels. Bike itself retailed for over $4200.
Long-life to Giant and Liv! 4 in our family of 2 :) 1 Giant TCR composite 1 2014 1 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 2019 1 Liv Avail Composite 2 2015 1 Liv Lagnma Advanced Pro 0 2019 Awesome bikes!
OMG!!! Giant TCR is totally my dream bike, the geometry is really good for climbing.. and all rounder as well.. i once rode 1 of these from my friend's and it was so good
great video. Haters gotta hate. I noticed at 3:25 that the front brake open/close that allows you to remove the wheel was open, unintentional I assume. I descended Black Mountain in Canberra with that open. I wondered why the front brake was spongy, lol.
2016 TCR Adv Pro 0 (Dura-Ace, 6.6kg, with SLR-0 wheelset) £3800rrp purchased for £2500 in 2017. It had been raced for one season by the Giant shops semi-pro team and had been in a crash. The carbon was repaired by a Giant-authorised carbon repair specialist which meant the full lifetime warranty of the frame was upheld. Happy I went for it--has done 20k+ miles without a problem and opened my bike-fit eyes to the M/L which is perfect for me. Can still pick up DA-9000 spares for cheap here. Found full 52/36 crankset off a local triathlon semi-pro who sold it to me for £50 and my LBS had 9000 shifters in good condition for £100 going spare.
I sorta have the same story. I was looking for a road bike under 1500 dollar price range(us), and I stumbled upon a 2017 bianchi impulso. This bike was traded in, and had a full ultegra groupset, all under the price of 1300 usd. I love this bike to death, and I love to see a similar story to mine on TH-cam!
What happened to bike prices? In 1980 a top of the line Schwinn Road Racing Paramount with a hand built in America frame was $800, which is about $2600 in today's money, you can't even get close to a top of the line racing bike today for under 3 grand, today's top tier bikes are like 10 to 14 thousand dollars or more, for what's basically a plastic frame and two wheels, it's insane.
I enjoy the vlog...nice work...I like the more reasonable price Ed bike reviews....I'm 47 and getting back into road biking after 20+ yes away. Love the tips...I like the Giant...mine is a focus izalco.
Nothing wrong with TCRs, great bikes! I've had 4 including the original with the Mike Burrows carbon aero seat post. I suppose if you're loaded and can afford a new $15000 F12 Pinarello, go for it. I picked up an SWORKS Venge frame and fork off Gumtree for $1200 (great cond.) from a young guy who'd just been offered a sponsorship from another bike co. I threw on respectable gear I had lying around and searched for Ultegra 11 speed components I still needed off eBay. And with a new set of Fulcrum Quattro wheels I also found online for $400, this amazing bike all up set me back around $2800 Oz (including postage for parts).
Scored a bargain recently myself. 2018 alloy BMC teammachine disc. It was a model I hadn't even researched, but it came up at my LBS for $700 under retail. It ended up meeting all of my criteria: threaded BB, alloy, disc, dropped seat stays, and best of all it is a size 57 so I didn't have to choose between a 56 or 58. Wheels are really heavy but that will just get me stronger for when I buy light ones next year.
Still riding my 1998 TCR with the wagon wheels, just updated to the R7000 105 groupset, keeps on keeping on! Love your channel Cam, got me interested in the Masters racing also : D
hey cam congrats what a buy beautiful machine and a word to the haters just remember if you haven"t got anything nice to say don"t say anything at all !!! best wishes as always mate
CONGRATS on new Race Bike. ALL your Points are spot on. It's easy to get swayed by the latest & greatest.......and I have. BUT if we step back, keep our emotions in check (not easy at times) & take a balanced look, there are SO many Great Deals on Solid Frames / Bikes up and down the Price scale. It requires Identifying exactly what the Goal / True Need is, PATIENCE, networking (LBS, fellow riders, etc) and regular Searching. There are so many reasons why from the Industry, LBS and Rider levels that make lots of Quality & Technically advanced (or less if you prefer) Bikes and Components available for the taking just as You did with the TCR. Sounds like You are still a set of Race Wheels short though(smile)
Funny story... I bought a 2016 Giant TCR leftover at my local bike shop. I bought it in the winter of 2017. Original price was $3400.USD I got it for just under $1800 out the door. I changed out the tires for 25c Grand Prix 4000s,and changed the cassette for an Ultegra 11-32. Great bike under $2k!
Just went through the arduous process of choosing my first bike. Wanted an Aero bike ready for Triathalon in 2020. But also didn't want to spend a bomb considering that there's every chance I will hate the sport and sell it on eBay ;) After getting way too far down the rabbit hole, decided I wanted carbon everything and Ultegra. 2019 Giant Propel Advanced disc was picked up brand new for $3690 (couldn't find any second hand in my size) Am so impressed by everything you get for the money. When I was looking at BMC or Specialized couldn't even get anything close for the money.
My 2018 TCR Advance 2 Disc. 2018 model. Love the bike. Yes would like to have Ultegra but the 105 is good enough. Very pleased with my purchase which was on par what you paid for yours.
Great thing with that trade in bikes system! our LBSs have only highly overpriced old models, which are staying around in that shops for 3-4 years. Congrats to the new bike!
Nice bike and nice pickup Cam. Bike looks great with those wheels. A new Giant SL carbon frame is now worth about $3500 on its own! BTW I just sold my spare set of Giant SL1 carbon wheels including 2 spare tyres and couldn't get more than $400 for them, and this after 5 weeks on gumtree. So I'd say hang on to them! Cheers Peter
Hi Cam, you keep mentioning that you needed a bike specifically for road racing. Could you weigh in a little bit on what exactly makes the TCR better suited? If I remember correctly the allez frame was used in road races by pro continental teams.
Just a heads up if you're planning on swapping your carbon wheels around, the giant carbon wheels are great but they won't last with "other" pads. You probably know this already. But if you're using Black Prince or something with the enve you'll probably want to swap the pads with the wheels.
I picked up a 2017 tcr advanced pro 0 with dura ace group set earlier this year that had had very little usage still had all stickers on for £1500... RRP £4099. Love it
Built a Chinese special. Mostly happy with it. I only "compete" on Strava due mostly to work schedule. My fitness is down this year yet I've got numerous PRs. Some new KOMs (one of which I didn't even know about, previous King.. Chad Haga). I'm in my 40s. All in (including custom paint) about 2000 USD with 105. Devil's advocate... I shoulda bought an allez Sprint because I'd never built a bike before. Tools added some money but I lost a month of riding due to parts shopping/shipping/building/painting. I'm going SRAM axs and disc next year or 2. I haven't decided on Chinese or used frame. Guess the used market at the time will dictate that.
Nice work Cam I’ve got a new 2020 TCR SL1 on order in Disc can’t wait to get it and also from my local bike shop mate and they look after me extremely well with all my purchases there, I get a decent discount and I can take it there for servicing or any dramas that come about and they get sorted ASAP and until it comes in I get the use of a shop bike to train on also a top spec Giant TCR 👌🏻 Great bikes mate you will not be disappointed 🤘🏻
Sick find Cam! I bought my first even road bike over a year ago which was a used TCR advanced 1. How much better is the frame on the pro version TCR that you have than on the entry level models? I don’t race so not super concerned with the difference but I am just curious. Was thinking of buying some Hunt 50/50 carbon wheels to upgrade from the stock wheels. Any thoughts on these? Cheers!!
Great bike and Giant TCR'S are a no nonsense, race ready geometry..I also bought mine used ,2 months ago for $980 SGD..2014 TCR Advanced 1ultegra 6800...no issues but been dropping guys riding $10K bikes on the roads....opps..
They will never do that , just found zipp 303 wheelset disc for $850 new from the u.k but they wont ship it to the u.s Because they are not licensed to send it to the u.s
Nice bike dude! I tell folks all the time that want to get into cycling that you definitely dont have to break the bank and this is definitely proof of that. As for the wheel battle... lol happy wife happy life bro! lol GOOD LUCK!!
@camnicholls I bought a $300 Allez (yes, $300) last year from a guy that was moving to Thailand and needed to unload it quick. I graciously took it off his hands and have enjoyed it ever since. That Giant is a great find and solid bike, best wishes on the race season. BTW- You may want to let the wife take the aero wheels, you never know, she may just decided it’s time for a second set. Sometimes this reverse psychology works on my wife haha.
Great vid and shows what you can get if you have the time and patience to hunt around. Just thought I would share a similar experience I had with my 2017 Madone. I was hit by a car in 2017 and needed a replacement after I received the insurance settlement. While I was looking around I was fortunate to stumble across an advert on Facebook by Cycles Galleria in Melbourne for their ex rental range. They had a 2017 56cm Matt Black Madone, less than a year old, ridden THREE times, literally presented as new, came with all the warranties of a new Madone and lifetime free ProCare servicing. It was $2,500 off the price of a current 2018 model (BUT was effectively the same bike) and came in at just south of $5,000.00 for my like for like replacement. Not as much of an unbelievable bargain as your TCR but I was pretty chuffed with the find and if (touch wood it doesn't) the same happened again I would be straight back on their ex-rental fleet. Keep up the good work
Cool bike and good deal but what exactly makes the TCR more of an 'all round road racer' compared to the Chapter 2 Rere? I can understand having an alloy Allez for racing crits but the Rere should in theory fulfil that 'all-roundness'. I suspect what you mean is you are looking for a light-weight c.7kg bike in which case a non-disc Rere could have ticked that box. I imagine the difference in 'feel' and weight is down to disc vs rim brakes. Anyway just my 2c, cool channel btw.
I got a Cube attain GTC race from 2016 last november for 900€, bought it stock since then just changed the sadle. Future upgrade Will be a wheelset or powermeter
Hi cam Iam on a tcr giant advanced 2017 SL 2 105 shimano group set and I love it . I took you’re advice on some info u mentioned about using only 2 of you’re sprocket rear cassette I think it was the 3rd and 4th sprocket when you train I cycle to work and home round trip is about 53kms yesterday 21/11/19 I road home from work and using those sprockets you mentioned ,28.49 kms in 57.12 to get home , hard work but loved it feeling stronger and fitter . Great info like you’re channel. 🚵♂️
@Cam Nicholls Hi Cam. So you're using the Enves - is that what you think - lol?? I hope your new bike can handle bigger tyres - the road's gonna get a bit rougher from now on 😉 When I get a "new" bike/frame I always look at last year's model. It's usually alot cheaper with just a different paint job. Alternatively, I buy the cheapest bike in the range (same frame) and then spec it up over the course of time! Great vid, esp the wife's cameo - she was trying to give you an earful but ran away when you put her on screen - nice off bike tactics and v.funny👍
Hey Bro, Greetings from Silicon Valley, USA - Great vids you post, very informative and interesting. Quick question, what water bottle cages are those on that awesome TCR. Thanks, be well...
Second hand is cheaper... I just purchased a new bike😤😉 Our LBS don’t offer seconds, so you don’t get the option of a LBS warranty. Still, god idea🤔 Great vid as always Cam👍🏻
I have the same bike & wanting similar wheels but worried about fitment issues with the rim brakes.Most are between 25mm - 28mm wide.What size were those & did you have to alter anything to get them to fit? Thanks.
I just got the 2018 tcr advanced sl 0 disc etap for 2300 USD I have to build it still but I’m excited ( even though it’s the orange 🍊I wish it was yellow like yours or white or another color but oh well )
Think my next bike will NOT be disc. The rubbing sound is annoying, regardless if the pads are indexed or not. Turn hard left... they rub... can't stand it sometimes. Maybe I should upgrade the rotors?... something thinner perhaps...
Cam, I jealous! How many bikes do you own? My wife wants to invest in a Tandem bike. We ride road bikes and ever since I mentioned that I was going to invest in an aero bike, she's been bugging me to ride Tandem with her. 😩
I must say, the Giant TCR Advanced is every bit as beautiful as the other very handsome bike of yours, the black one. Half the more expensive road and gravel bikes aren't half as pretty. Never mind its weight. It's a classic. The Giant road and gravel bikes, even as new, are some of the best value while still looking and feeling on par with the best. The TCR Advanced of obviously a beauty, but the €1.800 Defy Advanced is very handsome, too. Idem, the slightly more expensive Revolt Advanced (although I'd prefer a pair of slicker seat stays, like in the more expensive Salsa WarBird 2019 or the Norco Search XR drive-side rear end). I personally am more into the combination of looks, speed and versatility (i.e., compatibility with racks and mudguards and wider wheels when needed, as well as braking fit for loaded descents without wrecking precious carbon wheels) - and for this reason I wouldn't go with rim brakes (especially since Myself am considerably heavier than I should be, alas). But that frame is gorgeous and won't age much in looks. And the wheels are lovely, too.
Great vid and I agree with your whole process of purchasing that great used bike. Excellent purchase but give your wife back her wheels even if she doesn’t ride as much as you do-be safe brother😄❤️
Maybe a topic for the full review, how is the TCR more of an all round road race bike? if you’re saving, for example, a kilo over the Chapter2 wouldn’t the aero credentials make up for that shortcoming?
That is an absolute steal. Were you lucky with the ISP length or did the spacers help you out? I just bought myself the same frameset (in the Sunweb colours) and it cost more than your full bike :( Who said mid-life crisis? Enjoy the bike and I'd love to see a 200 km and a longer term review and especially interested in your thoughts on the ISP and ride quality.
Can't afford a Cipollini so it's always been a toss up between this and the SLR (Al) version for 'dream bike'. 11sp Ultegra (no di2) is pretty much the pinnacle of Shimano mech and the frame supposedly has snappy handling.
Can, I soon will have a story very similar. I stopped by a bike shop this past weekend and they rent bikes, and guess what was hanging as a rental, but also for sale...a GIANT TCR (Blue/Grey). Ya Boi, may be getting one too as you have...we shall see what the near future holds. 😎🤩😎
Similar story here. I picked up an end of season supersix evo high-mod ultegra that was sitting in a warehouse for half price. Looking forward to a video where you put the bike through its paces.
Hey Cam just wondering how tall you are and inseam? I had a tcr that i sold as I felt it was a size too big and will probably get another but in a medium.
Cam - It wasn't me who called you a 'dickhead' mate !!! wow you got some strong feedback there in no uncertain terms but I think their gist was the same as what I mentioned about reviewing affordable bikes. Great review and thank you Cam, keep them coming.
I want to buy one of these but not sure what size to order. I’m 5’ 11” and it’ll be my first decent bike. What would you advise in terms of figuring out the size? Thanks a lot.
Dude you’re so rad. Just watched your crash video as well (with the man ride). Great work and love the openness. Anytime you are in Seattle hit me up so we can ride. 👊🏼
Devon Teller sorry if I missed your original question mate. I fell way behind! They’re very close. I’d say the Tarmac is a touch faster in a straight line because of its recent Tube shape changes to be more like the Venge. Outside of that, they’re both light, stiff, hold their lines well and look great. TCR is a lot cheaper too, so it’s hard to go past.
sold Giant for 10 years of my life here(KSA) would go back to them in heartbeat. have 3 TCR Advanced SL ISP\s and a Propel Advanced SL ISP. the best bikes ive ever owned. when i joined Giant, i wasn't interested in riding something with a name like GIANT. test rode a TCR. was hooked. i have the original TCR Advanced T-Mobile(Majenta) "bands". she's a 2006 but can climb like a rocket. she weighs 7.5kg which is really good for a 2006.
Have the same frame and components in the 2018 KOM configuration. Light, awesome handling, and very comfortable on 100+ mile rides. Congrats on getting a great bargain.
Anyone who gives you grief mate must have a sad life you're one of the nicest cycling blokes around keep knocking them out these videos are great 😁
Similar situation for myself, was in the market for a new bike and found a local shop in a different state that was selling a 2019 supersix evo in an unpopular color for $2000 USD. Ultegra comp., carbon seat post stem and bars, carbon wheels. Bike itself retailed for over $4200.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Long-life to Giant and Liv!
4 in our family of 2 :)
1 Giant TCR composite 1 2014
1 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 2019
1 Liv Avail Composite 2 2015
1 Liv Lagnma Advanced Pro 0 2019
Awesome bikes!
That bike is sick! Good luck to both you and your wife on the races!
OMG!!! Giant TCR is totally my dream bike, the geometry is really good for climbing.. and all rounder as well.. i once rode 1 of these from my friend's and it was so good
great video. Haters gotta hate. I noticed at 3:25 that the front brake open/close that allows you to remove the wheel was open, unintentional I assume. I descended Black Mountain in Canberra with that open. I wondered why the front brake was spongy, lol.
At 7:11 with the stock wheelset too. Not sure why he did that.
2016 TCR Adv Pro 0 (Dura-Ace, 6.6kg, with SLR-0 wheelset) £3800rrp purchased for £2500 in 2017. It had been raced for one season by the Giant shops semi-pro team and had been in a crash. The carbon was repaired by a Giant-authorised carbon repair specialist which meant the full lifetime warranty of the frame was upheld. Happy I went for it--has done 20k+ miles without a problem and opened my bike-fit eyes to the M/L which is perfect for me. Can still pick up DA-9000 spares for cheap here. Found full 52/36 crankset off a local triathlon semi-pro who sold it to me for £50 and my LBS had 9000 shifters in good condition for £100 going spare.
I sorta have the same story. I was looking for a road bike under 1500 dollar price range(us), and I stumbled upon a 2017 bianchi impulso. This bike was traded in, and had a full ultegra groupset, all under the price of 1300 usd. I love this bike to death, and I love to see a similar story to mine on TH-cam!
Nice one thanks for sharing Jenner. Good to hear. 👍
What happened to bike prices? In 1980 a top of the line Schwinn Road Racing Paramount with a hand built in America frame was $800, which is about $2600 in today's money, you can't even get close to a top of the line racing bike today for under 3 grand, today's top tier bikes are like 10 to 14 thousand dollars or more, for what's basically a plastic frame and two wheels, it's insane.
Cam you were a big help in getting me into bike riding now we have the same bike!
Legend, keep up the good work!!
Thanks for addressing the “no life” comments so well! Fabulous plug for shopping local and promoting small business benefits. Well done vid.
I enjoy the vlog...nice work...I like the more reasonable price Ed bike reviews....I'm 47 and getting back into road biking after 20+ yes away. Love the tips...I like the Giant...mine is a focus izalco.
that's an amazing deal - congrats. I've been on a TCR for 2 seasons. I wish I had paid as little as you did, but I freaking love the bike.
Nothing wrong with TCRs, great bikes! I've had 4 including the original with the Mike Burrows carbon aero seat post. I suppose if you're loaded and can afford a new $15000 F12 Pinarello, go for it. I picked up an SWORKS Venge frame and fork off Gumtree for $1200 (great cond.) from a young guy who'd just been offered a sponsorship from another bike co. I threw on respectable gear I had lying around and searched for Ultegra 11 speed components I still needed off eBay. And with a new set of Fulcrum Quattro wheels I also found online for $400, this amazing bike all up set me back around $2800 Oz (including postage for parts).
Scored a bargain recently myself. 2018 alloy BMC teammachine disc. It was a model I hadn't even researched, but it came up at my LBS for $700 under retail. It ended up meeting all of my criteria: threaded BB, alloy, disc, dropped seat stays, and best of all it is a size 57 so I didn't have to choose between a 56 or 58. Wheels are really heavy but that will just get me stronger for when I buy light ones next year.
Still riding my 1998 TCR with the wagon wheels, just updated to the R7000 105 groupset, keeps on keeping on!
Love your channel Cam, got me interested in the Masters racing also : D
Cam - looking forward to a review of the TCR and how it compares with the $10k to $15k bikes
hey cam congrats what a buy beautiful machine and a word to the haters just remember if you haven"t got anything nice to say don"t say anything at all !!! best wishes as always mate
Can't wait for you to review this bike! Love your videos, Cam! Keep em coming. Cheers, from Canada!
CONGRATS on new Race Bike. ALL your Points are spot on. It's easy to get swayed by the latest & greatest.......and I have. BUT if we step back, keep our emotions in check (not easy at times) & take a balanced look, there are SO many Great Deals on Solid Frames / Bikes up and down the Price scale. It requires Identifying exactly what the Goal / True Need is, PATIENCE, networking (LBS, fellow riders, etc) and regular Searching.
There are so many reasons why from the Industry, LBS and Rider levels that make lots of Quality & Technically advanced (or less if you prefer) Bikes and Components available for the taking just as You did with the TCR. Sounds like You are still a set of Race Wheels short though(smile)
Funny story... I bought a 2016 Giant TCR leftover at my local bike shop. I bought it in the winter of 2017. Original price was $3400.USD
I got it for just under $1800 out the door. I changed out the tires for 25c Grand Prix 4000s,and changed the cassette for an Ultegra 11-32. Great bike under $2k!
Just went through the arduous process of choosing my first bike. Wanted an Aero bike ready for Triathalon in 2020. But also didn't want to spend a bomb considering that there's every chance I will hate the sport and sell it on eBay ;) After getting way too far down the rabbit hole, decided I wanted carbon everything and Ultegra. 2019 Giant Propel Advanced disc was picked up brand new for $3690 (couldn't find any second hand in my size) Am so impressed by everything you get for the money. When I was looking at BMC or Specialized couldn't even get anything close for the money.
My 2018 TCR Advance 2 Disc. 2018 model. Love the bike. Yes would like to have Ultegra but the 105 is good enough. Very pleased with my purchase which was on par what you paid for yours.
Great thing with that trade in bikes system! our LBSs have only highly overpriced old models, which are staying around in that shops for 3-4 years.
Congrats to the new bike!
Nice bike and nice pickup Cam. Bike looks great with those wheels. A new Giant SL carbon frame is now worth about $3500 on its own!
BTW I just sold my spare set of Giant SL1 carbon wheels including 2 spare tyres and couldn't get more than $400 for them, and this after 5 weeks on gumtree. So I'd say hang on to them!
Cheers Peter
Hi Cam, you keep mentioning that you needed a bike specifically for road racing. Could you weigh in a little bit on what exactly makes the TCR better suited? If I remember correctly the allez frame was used in road races by pro continental teams.
I suspect that it's the weight and more specifically the weight / stiffness ratio for climbing. Plus it adheres to the N+1 rule.
I also have a suspicion, that n+1 is involved and i understand...already bought two bikes this year
A year or 2 ago the Allez Sprint was piloted to a US national championship.
Great deal, that’s a gorgeous bike, good luck with it!
Just a heads up if you're planning on swapping your carbon wheels around, the giant carbon wheels are great but they won't last with "other" pads. You probably know this already. But if you're using Black Prince or something with the enve you'll probably want to swap the pads with the wheels.
That is a better bike than your factor... or the allez... other Look or Time, Giant is the best carbon bike
Value for money, i don't think you can beat it. Cam
On point mate, I’m new to cycling and just didn’t feel I had the budget. Love the more realistic options for entry level dads :)
Nice one, cheers for the comment and good luck.
Cam Nicholls just one step at a time. Cheers
“I may have lost” mate you have already lost just give her the wheels. Accept it she won you just don’t know it yet.
I picked up a 2017 tcr advanced pro 0 with dura ace group set earlier this year that had had very little usage still had all stickers on for £1500... RRP £4099. Love it
Awesome
Another TCR owner here. Bang for buck, you can't beat them.
I race a TCR here in Chicago. Great value. Great performance.
Built a Chinese special.
Mostly happy with it.
I only "compete" on Strava due mostly to work schedule. My fitness is down this year yet I've got numerous PRs. Some new KOMs (one of which I didn't even know about, previous King.. Chad Haga). I'm in my 40s.
All in (including custom paint) about 2000 USD with 105.
Devil's advocate... I shoulda bought an allez Sprint because I'd never built a bike before. Tools added some money but I lost a month of riding due to parts shopping/shipping/building/painting.
I'm going SRAM axs and disc next year or 2. I haven't decided on Chinese or used frame. Guess the used market at the time will dictate that.
Nice work Cam I’ve got a new 2020 TCR SL1 on order in Disc can’t wait to get it and also from my local bike shop mate and they look after me extremely well with all my purchases there, I get a decent discount and I can take it there for servicing or any dramas that come about and they get sorted ASAP and until it comes in I get the use of a shop bike to train on also a top spec Giant TCR 👌🏻
Great bikes mate you will not be disappointed 🤘🏻
Another good bargain is to buy the previous years model as this time of year they are very cheap
Just purchased a giant defy 2 from last year, $1300nzd cheaper than this years model
Harry Saunderson-Warner and prob almost identical
Different paint job and shimano brakes Instead of giant.
I'm stoked with the deal.
@@harrysaunderson-warner4519
Hey what was the final price you bought with?
Can you share a link to that?
Look forward for your reply.
sourav banerjee www.evolutioncycles.co.nz/Product/276506/2019-giant-defy-advanced-2-disc I paid 2480 or so, out of stock now though
Sick find Cam! I bought my first even road bike over a year ago which was a used TCR advanced 1. How much better is the frame on the pro version TCR that you have than on the entry level models? I don’t race so not super concerned with the difference but I am just curious. Was thinking of buying some Hunt 50/50 carbon wheels to upgrade from the stock wheels. Any thoughts on these?
Cheers!!
Dude I Just bought a trek Emonda sl6 with like 1000 miles on it for $850. Cost less than my power meter and wheel set.
Great bike and Giant TCR'S are a no nonsense, race ready geometry..I also bought mine used ,2 months ago for $980 SGD..2014 TCR Advanced 1ultegra 6800...no issues but been dropping guys riding $10K bikes on the roads....opps..
I wish us bike shops had deals like that or to be more specific in my 49cm size 🥴
They will never do that , just found zipp 303 wheelset disc for $850 new from the u.k but they wont ship it to the u.s Because they are not licensed to send it to the u.s
If your trying to get high end bike with a budget just get a tcr
Nothing else gonna touch tcr value wise
Orbea Orca M30?
Its a good bargain m8 not dirt cheap😞
Great video keep it up👍
Cheers mate, much appreciated. Cam
you are right, rim brakes dont make irritating noises however, in 1 outing, they can totally F### up a set of carbon wheels in the rain
Nice bike dude! I tell folks all the time that want to get into cycling that you definitely dont have to break the bank and this is definitely proof of that. As for the wheel battle... lol happy wife happy life bro! lol GOOD LUCK!!
@camnicholls I bought a $300 Allez (yes, $300) last year from a guy that was moving to Thailand and needed to unload it quick. I graciously took it off his hands and have enjoyed it ever since. That Giant is a great find and solid bike, best wishes on the race season. BTW- You may want to let the wife take the aero wheels, you never know, she may just decided it’s time for a second set. Sometimes this reverse psychology works on my wife haha.
Great review. Now I’m convinced about getting this version of tcr ..was thinking about the disc version
Nice one, great bike
Great vid and shows what you can get if you have the time and patience to hunt around.
Just thought I would share a similar experience I had with my 2017 Madone. I was hit by a car in 2017 and needed a replacement after I received the insurance settlement.
While I was looking around I was fortunate to stumble across an advert on Facebook by Cycles Galleria in Melbourne for their ex rental range.
They had a 2017 56cm Matt Black Madone, less than a year old, ridden THREE times, literally presented as new, came with all the warranties of a new Madone and lifetime free ProCare servicing.
It was $2,500 off the price of a current 2018 model (BUT was effectively the same bike) and came in at just south of $5,000.00 for my like for like replacement.
Not as much of an unbelievable bargain as your TCR but I was pretty chuffed with the find and if (touch wood it doesn't) the same happened again I would be straight back on their ex-rental fleet.
Keep up the good work
Love and hate. The yin and yan of the online world. I'm loving it! Keep it up. Great road bike choice
Cool bike and good deal but what exactly makes the TCR more of an 'all round road racer' compared to the Chapter 2 Rere? I can understand having an alloy Allez for racing crits but the Rere should in theory fulfil that 'all-roundness'. I suspect what you mean is you are looking for a light-weight c.7kg bike in which case a non-disc Rere could have ticked that box. I imagine the difference in 'feel' and weight is down to disc vs rim brakes. Anyway just my 2c, cool channel btw.
I got a Cube attain GTC race from 2016 last november for 900€, bought it stock since then just changed the sadle. Future upgrade Will be a wheelset or powermeter
my dirt cheap bike - a shop demo 2017 merida scultura 4000 disc, 105 groupset, distributors online auction. got it for 800NZD
Bargain!
Hi cam Iam on a tcr giant advanced 2017 SL 2 105 shimano group set and I love it . I took you’re advice on some info u mentioned about using only 2 of you’re sprocket rear cassette I think it was the 3rd and 4th sprocket when you train I cycle to work and home round trip is about 53kms yesterday 21/11/19 I road home from work and using those sprockets you mentioned ,28.49 kms in 57.12 to get home , hard work but loved it feeling stronger and fitter . Great info like you’re channel. 🚵♂️
Cheers Alex, nice work too with your training. Cam
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Hi Cam. So you're using the Enves - is that what you think - lol?? I hope your new bike can handle bigger tyres - the road's gonna get a bit rougher from now on 😉
When I get a "new" bike/frame I always look at last year's model. It's usually alot cheaper with just a different paint job. Alternatively, I buy the cheapest bike in the range (same frame) and then spec it up over the course of time!
Great vid, esp the wife's cameo - she was trying to give you an earful but ran away when you put her on screen - nice off bike tactics and v.funny👍
Hey Bro,
Greetings from Silicon Valley, USA - Great vids you post, very informative and interesting. Quick question, what water bottle cages are those on that awesome TCR. Thanks, be well...
It only has Ultegra? How will you survive? Just kidding... 😉
btw- just let her use the wheels. Trust me, it’s worth it.
I just got my tcr advanced 1 disc 2020 it's a real beast
I ride a 2013 TCR SL1 Dura-ace mech, all research shows they developed a frame that will stand the test of time.
My mates always make fun of how cheap my TCR is cause it always leave them in the dust
That's when they really get annoyed...
Second hand is cheaper... I just purchased a new bike😤😉 Our LBS don’t offer seconds, so you don’t get the option of a LBS warranty. Still, god idea🤔 Great vid as always Cam👍🏻
I like the giant frames and colour look good. Was the 7.1kgs with pedals? Enve wheels seem cheaper now $1200 for that depth is not bad.
I got the option to buy a brand new rim brake 2021 TCR frame for 1k…should I pull the trigger then? Worth it?
Great video and great bike , makes sense to pay a price that’s reasonable instead of getting in so deep you can’t enjoy the bike
Love the review Cam.
I have the same bike & wanting similar wheels but worried about fitment issues with the rim brakes.Most are between 25mm - 28mm wide.What size were those & did you have to alter anything to get them to fit? Thanks.
Great channel and brilliant bike (probably should let wifey ride the enves on sunday if she was training on them though)
I just got the 2018 tcr advanced sl 0 disc etap for 2300 USD I have to build it still but I’m excited ( even though it’s the orange 🍊I wish it was yellow like yours or white or another color but oh well )
I have the 2018 Giant TCR Advanced with Shimano 105. Added some ICAN Cycling carbon tubeless wheels. Great value bike.
Think my next bike will NOT be disc. The rubbing sound is annoying, regardless if the pads are indexed or not. Turn hard left... they rub... can't stand it sometimes. Maybe I should upgrade the rotors?... something thinner perhaps...
Cam, I jealous! How many bikes do you own?
My wife wants to invest in a Tandem bike. We ride road bikes and ever since I mentioned that I was going to invest in an aero bike, she's been bugging me to ride Tandem with her. 😩
I must say, the Giant TCR Advanced is every bit as beautiful as the other very handsome bike of yours, the black one. Half the more expensive road and gravel bikes aren't half as pretty. Never mind its weight. It's a classic.
The Giant road and gravel bikes, even as new, are some of the best value while still looking and feeling on par with the best. The TCR Advanced of obviously a beauty, but the €1.800 Defy Advanced is very handsome, too. Idem, the slightly more expensive Revolt Advanced (although I'd prefer a pair of slicker seat stays, like in the more expensive Salsa WarBird 2019 or the Norco Search XR drive-side rear end).
I personally am more into the combination of looks, speed and versatility (i.e., compatibility with racks and mudguards and wider wheels when needed, as well as braking fit for loaded descents without wrecking precious carbon wheels) - and for this reason I wouldn't go with rim brakes (especially since Myself am considerably heavier than I should be, alas). But that frame is gorgeous and won't age much in looks. And the wheels are lovely, too.
Cheers Leo and thanks for sharing. Cam
TCR - best value/performance all round road bike ever?
Great vid and I agree with your whole process of purchasing that great used bike. Excellent purchase but give your wife back her wheels even if she doesn’t ride as much as you do-be safe brother😄❤️
Wow 18000 dollars I think that amazing I am looking for a road bike and that one looks amazing, did the giant come with those wheels ?
Maybe a topic for the full review, how is the TCR more of an all round road race bike? if you’re saving, for example, a kilo over the Chapter2 wouldn’t the aero credentials make up for that shortcoming?
That is an absolute steal. Were you lucky with the ISP length or did the spacers help you out? I just bought myself the same frameset (in the Sunweb colours) and it cost more than your full bike :( Who said mid-life crisis? Enjoy the bike and I'd love to see a 200 km and a longer term review and especially interested in your thoughts on the ISP and ride quality.
Nice looking bike and love the colour Cam👍🇦🇺
Can't afford a Cipollini so it's always been a toss up between this and the SLR (Al) version for 'dream bike'. 11sp Ultegra (no di2) is pretty much the pinnacle of Shimano mech and the frame supposedly has snappy handling.
Can, I soon will have a story very similar. I stopped by a bike shop this past weekend and they rent bikes, and guess what was hanging as a rental, but also for sale...a GIANT TCR (Blue/Grey). Ya Boi, may be getting one too as you have...we shall see what the near future holds. 😎🤩😎
You will never goes wrong with Giant.
Nice content mate,I have a question?Does tubular tires is adviseble for me as a week end rider?greetings from the Philippines..thanks
Cheers Mark, Only for racing I would say.
Cam Nicholls nice to hear that,Because i also own a giant tcr im always watching your vlogs..Benefit me alot for your tips,Ride safe always
Similar story here. I picked up an end of season supersix evo high-mod ultegra that was sitting in a warehouse for half price. Looking forward to a video where you put the bike through its paces.
Wow.it was good deal.
tcr and prophel are my dream bike... i love the geometry of this two... ride safe 🚴🚴🚴
"prophel"
Hey Cam just wondering how tall you are and inseam? I had a tcr that i sold as I felt it was a size too big and will probably get another but in a medium.
Actually don’t have my inseam. Was measured years ago but lost the measurements. I am 179cm. I am on a medium. Cam
Just kidding. Loving the informative original content cam, keep up the good work and good luck in your upcoming races.cheers
thank you very much for the video - may be it helps to equalize 2nd hand purchases in the community
The wheels make the biggest difference. The TCR is a sweet frameset and builds up super light with rim brakes and tubulars.
Absolutely Jay! Cam
Having seen it with the Giant rims in the shop the Enve wheels certainly trick it up, one sexy looking TCR.
Cam - It wasn't me who called you a 'dickhead' mate !!! wow you got some strong feedback there in no uncertain terms but I think their gist was the same as what I mentioned about reviewing affordable bikes. Great review and thank you Cam, keep them coming.
Love your video truly!
tcr painting is really cool.
the best price for the same setup.
I need to start working on my flexibility, to fit on a TCR aswell. great bike, lots of Pro heritage.
Thinking of buying a giant defy I can see you bought size medium, how tall are you
Giants kick arse!
@Firsthgyhgyhuy Lastujhujhuj Most likely yours!
@Firsthgyhgyhuy Lastujhujhuj Don't knock it until you've tried it. hon
I want to buy one of these but not sure what size to order. I’m 5’ 11” and it’ll be my first decent bike. What would you advise in terms of figuring out the size? Thanks a lot.
I wold say Medium, but don't come for me when it doesn't fit properly.
Cam Nicholls haha of course not. I’m looking at the Specialized Tarmac SL4 too, change my mind every few minutes. Thanks very much mate.
Dude you’re so rad. Just watched your crash video as well (with the man ride). Great work and love the openness. Anytime you are in Seattle hit me up so we can ride. 👊🏼
Cheers Chris, would love to. Hear it's a magnificent city. Need to get there sometime. Cam
Hey Cam again, question, how would you compare the ride quality of a TCR vs a Tarmac?
Devon Teller sorry if I missed your original question mate. I fell way behind! They’re very close. I’d say the Tarmac is a touch faster in a straight line because of its recent Tube shape changes to be more like the Venge. Outside of that, they’re both light, stiff, hold their lines well and look great. TCR is a lot cheaper too, so it’s hard to go past.
Why is the quick release on your front brake caliper open?