Why doesn't Mario look like he used to?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2024
- Over the last 40 years, Mario's design has changed a lot! In Donkey Kong, Mario looked like some kind of strange, middle aged man who HATED gorillas; now he's much younger and friendly looking. So, why has his character design changed so much? Let's find out, as we answer the question: Why doesn't Mario looks like he used to?
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Donkey Kong Development
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Donkey Kong USA Art
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Mario Segale Image
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Super Mario Bros
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Mario's early design in the _Donkey Kong_ arcade cabinet looks like the type of guy who would rather kidnapped someone and tied them on the train tracks. He's more of Waluigi before he even existed.
It looks like a mix between Waluigi and Popeye, imo
@@billieleavenworth364 makes sense because of the game use to being about popeye
yeah. i totally agree with you man. he kinda looked like a waluigi
He looks like the kind of fiend who would trap someone in a cage and be the villain of a videogame.... wait a minute
And nowdays he just a hero plumber
Mario eating a mushroom to get stronger is like Popeye eating spinach.
Yes, also combing the idea from such as Alice in Wonderland about mushrooms being magical.
Yup
theory approved
Makes sense.
except mario is only hallucinating hes stronger while a koopa troopa gnaws his foot off.🤭
It amazed me how Mario used to looked like some scuffed up plumber and now looks like the embodiment of rainbows puppies and kittens.
Love how you worded this lol
Yea
No one ever mentions that they swapped the overall and the sweater colors. That was always a significant change for me lol
I watched popeye it is my favorite cartoon and olive oil is Popeyes wife
I prefer the sweater being red and the overalls being blue
Mario’s core design remains the same as when he was initially created, which makes the smaller details important as the years went on.
Agreed
Man, is Popeye the Sailorman really that unknown these days? I'm a 90s kid and I still knew him growing up thanks to Cartoon Network's re-runs of his classic shorts. He did for spinach what Bugs Bunny did for carrots, and even what Mario did for mushrooms. And he's got one of the most iconic theme songs. I wouldn't be surprised if Mario's mushroom power-up gimmick came from Popeye's power boost from eating his cans of spinach. Anyway, I'm sure grateful for his contributions to Mario's creation.
Those were the days when Cartoon Network was an outlet for vintage Popeye, Hanna Barbera and Looney Tunes shorts. By the way I was an 80s child and the Disney Channel in the 80s was the same way as at outlet for vintage Disney shorts and films.
@@tommyanomaly6193 Yep, those were the days. Crazy how thanks to CN's original line-up I grew up watching the same classic cartoons that my parents and even my grandparents grew up on.
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I was born in 93 and I never liked Popeye that much, it was okay, not good but not bad imo
Kotabe is really a genius. He refined Mario so well, it was a huge improvement.
the evolution of characters like this is so interesting to me
"It's a me, a-Mario" -Andy Dwyer for some reason.
He is one of the many Mario’s.
Hope this is gonna be a new series, the Princess Peach episode will be a trip
And don’t forget about Donkey Kong’s new design for the movie
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There already is one.
@@rapidlyvids that one is from months ago, and since then, we’ve gotten a look at a new Donkey Kong design made specifically for the movie
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The original Mario artwork makes it look like he could be from the Popeye cartoon.
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He looks like Popeye's evil counterpart.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 thats bluto.
That was because Mario used to be a Popeye expy
Forgot to mention Kotabe Swapped Mario's overall color from red to blue. That's something that always stood out to me about early mario designs.
Who the heck wears red overalls?
I originally had a line about it in the script, but actually when I checked his early sprites and art are actually inconsistent, with blue sometimes on the outside and red sometimes on the outside! Kotabe definitely locked it in the current way round though!
I wore red overalls as a kid.
I believe "Dennis the Menace" wore them too. Red overalls used to be common.
Same with luigi's green overalls.
@@ThomasGameDocs do why doesn't mario's voice sound like it used to
Lou Albano’s Mario did at least
I've been a hardcore Mario fan for 13 years. I haven't heard of Donkey Kong originally being a Popeye game until now, wtf.
I knew for like a year strange isn't it?
I mean I’ve been playing Mario games for 25+ years and I didn’t know either
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I love the video, but I think he already covered this entire thing in another video…
Anything to avoid getting a job
Its so cool that every aspect of mario had a purpose, like the overalls, hat, nose and moustache that make him iconic
Miyamoto originally called Mario Ossan, Japanese for "middle aged guy", it was the American localizers that came up with Jump Man.
Another unused prototypical name Miyamoto considered was "Mr. Video."
He also got the name Mario from the American Nintendo workers too, as they got the name from the landlord of Nintendo's first warehouse supposedly. So they used the name for the demo screens in Donkey Kong Junior.
@@beauwalker9820 I completely forgot about the Mr. Video name. I only know it cause it was in the description for Mario's trophy in Melee if I remember correctly.
Jump man could not be used because of its copyrighted use by Nike.
Jumpman was never used Mario was the name that Nintendo of America came up with Mario and it stuck permanently.
I really love character design, so it's so cool to learn about the history of one of the most iconic ones out there!
I can't imagine what he will look like if he changes again lol.
I think that's proof of how iconic/good his design is.
It will be interesting to see if future Mario games make him look more like movie Mario or not.
i think he’s more or less perfected at this point. the recent renders used for promotions in the Switch era feels like the height of Mario’s character design. i can see characters like Peach continue to be fine-tuned though
I doubt any of the characters will get any significant changes ever again.
We live in a world where folks have to be introduced to Popeye…he’s fallen that much out of the mainstream
He was strong to the finich, so please eat yer spinach TmT
Shame the movie was cancelled, that could of reinvigorated the franchise. (Hey, worked for Peabody and Sherman for a bit.)
And the funny thing is, Mario would never have existed without Popeye.
@@beauwalker9820 don't you bring that movie into this, that was also a great movie😃
The pre-war Popeye theatrical shorts are peak Golden Age of Animation treasures! They must not be forgotten!
Mario's textures are getting more detailed and realistic with each new console generation. You can see some strands of hair on his mustache and hair, and his overalls constantly appear more realistic.
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@@bannah6400 Mario dies over and over again for our sins
It's really crazy how much the red plumber's design has changed over the years, with the movie design being the most _interesting_ one of them all...
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Meh, movie Mario is a lot more colorful but that’s all they really changed. His voice tho.
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CGI Movie Mario looks cute...
CGI Movie Luigi on the other hand(some)...
“Hes taller, skinnier”
The mario hes describing: big round Belly
0:05 yyooooo THATS the first Mario design??! I’ve always seen this design on a pizza box from a pizza restaurant. 😱
Old Mario looks more like the type of guy to DO the kidnapping, rather then save somebody from one
Old Mario: 1940s Italian plumber stereotype
New Mario: a child with moustaches
Pretty much.
How have people not questioned on why Mario could be either a plumber or carpenter? Nice video, by the way :)
I really wish they had used his model from Mario + Rabbids for the Mario Movie, I think he looked his absolute best in that game
I'm assuming you're talking about Rabbid Mario
@@AnAnonymousPenguin no, hes talking about mario mario's model from that game, it's like the odyssey one but more expressive and with softer colors
@@AnAnonymousPenguin i hope so
Nah
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7:19
The way it's cropped makes Mario look dead in a puddle of blood
And it looks like Luigi was either the one who killed him, or wants vengeance for his fallen brother.
Popeye, Speed Racer, and Astro Boy are concepts that continue even now Mario, Captain Falcon, and Mega Man. It's weirdly beautiful how while nothing is truly original, it's its own spin on everything.
Good video Thomas! A suggestion is to make a video about why Princess Daisy doesn’t look like she used to. Because she has changed through the years😊🌼
Thomas didn't even make a video about Daisy's voice. I wonder if it's because of lack of information.
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That is so weird that you made a video about this exact topic I’m freaking out right now. So like 2 days ago when I was in computing class at lunch at me and my friend are just hanging out when he notices these classic video game posters including donkey kong and it has the old mario design and he asks “why does mario look like that it’s so weird” I had to explain to him that donkey kong came out before they had chosen the more reckoning design. What a weird coincidence.
4:15 he actually called him Mr video. "Jump man" and "little Mario" were the names used in marketing
11:58 in fact those Designs will be used to make the 3 Mario cartoons which are: Siper Mario Bros Super Show, Super Mario Bros 3, Super Mario World. Created by DIC
I grew up in Kent, Washington, about 30 minutes from Redmond. On the way to way to the mall from our house, we would constantly drive by the M.A. Segale business park. They would even be a sponsor for Kent Parks Baseball. To learn all these later that the name Mario was taken from there, mind blown.
I thought you made this kind of video but probably because i’ve seen this topic before, I am just happy to see this information talked about to this day on your channel.
So basically, for a while Mario was Waluigi in red clothes
You know why I like your channel? Unlike other channels you have much more inside info and footage that most people don’t know about!
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Take that, Modern Siiroth
Mario looked like he was sick in 1981…
DOES NOBODY NOTICE THE OVERALLS AND SHIRT SWAP COLORS ALL THE TIME IN THE OLDER DAYS? WHAT THE HECK
Oooh I would love to see more videos like this, looking at the evolving designs of classic video game characters (maybe Pac-Man or Donkey Kong next?)
Most characters age with time, Mario gets younger with time
Suppostly, Mario is 25
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I think the reason why mario doesn’t look like he used to is because he got a design change
Whoa, really?
@@supermarionoobs2639 yeah it’s really hard to comprehend
I COULD HAVE NEVER GUESSED
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@@thealmightycrisprat no problem
You missed the first game to include Mario's final form. It was Super Mario RPG, in which his modern 3D model was converted to a sprite. Check it out, it's N64 Mario as a SNES sprite.
I was born in 2002, I first saw Mario when I was a kid in 3D. When I kept seeing the Sonic the Hedgehog trailers I was like "I wish they would make a movie about Super Mario Bros" when I saw that trailer, I wanted to see it so bad, but my mom didn't want to see it in the theater. When we saw it on Peacock, I made her play it, she ended up liking it and I loved it
Some very interesting information you provided here! I really enjoyed it!!
You didn't mention Mario in the Saturday Supercade Donkey Kong cartoon segment that aired in 1983/84 which I believe was the first time we saw Mario in animation format and was voiced by the Legendary Peter Cullen! Mario in that cartoon looked young like he was in his 20s or early 30s!
And DK the big ape also had a legendary voice in it, Soupy Sales. A name that may be unknown on us younger generations, but apparently he was very popular in children's TV for decades in the old days.
Another fun tidbit was there was an episode that tied into the DK3 arcade game, and is the only time we ever see Mario and Stanley (the obscure protagonist of DK3, and the G&W game "Greenhouse") at the same time.
It took me forever to realize that Mario's overalls used to be red, and his long sleeve shirt was blue in his older games, because I'm so used to the long sleeved red shirt with the blue overalls from the current Mario games.
I prefer the red sleeve shirt and blue overalls
The switch from Mario wearing a blue shirt and red overalls to a red shirt and blue overalls really messed me up as a kid, as for a long time whenever I tried to recall from memory what Mario looked like, I’d always fail to remember which was which. It wasn’t until _much_ later in life that I realized that it depended on the game as to what colors he wore.
Great video! Answered a lot of questions I had.
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I did enjoy the whole thing thank you great job!!
Nice video. Grew up with Mario, and am graphic artist myself, so very cool to see the development of the characters
*Amazing* video! Love your videos! Keep up the great work!
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4:39 glad there was a professional artist to polish up the sketch
@ThomasGameDocs - How come they reversed his original color design?? In the beginning he had Red Overalls & Blue Shirt..... Then for some reason they swapped it to Blue Overalls & Red Shirt. I haven't been able to find any specific reason why they swapped the colors.
A lot of changes were made trough the years, Mario changed, Pauline was replaced by Peach and DK was replaced by Bowser
Mario is an immortal cultural icon no matter how guido he does or does not look.
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I didn't realize the previous iterations of Mario were designed by different artists! I like your interpretation of the different styles. Of course everyone knows the most iconic design, but something about Cabarga's version... I know it will stay in my heart.
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The initial Popeye cartoons were made in the 30s and 40s, saying that Leslie Cabarga worked in cartoons in the same era is pretty much... well... incorect... he wasn't even born until 1954. He did write a book about Fleischer Studios though, which was the studio that made the Popeye cartoons. Maybe that's where you got confused?
Great video! How do you feel about the upcoming movie though?! I've been excited by the trailers so far, i think the little things i could nitpick wouldn't really ruin the experience of the Mario movie for me! Though i'm still kinda hoping we get some of Mario's classic jump sounds or screams as some kind of easter egg! xD
Great video! By chance, in your research, did you ever find out why they switched the color of his coveralls from red to blue? I always wondered about that.
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Great work! Loved it! :)
Fun fact:when the old Mario design was created for donkey Kong they used the same color design for the super Mario bros super show
I know that Mario is the same person since Donkey Kong... But deep down i believe in the headcanon that Jumpman the Carpenter, it's Mario and Luigi's father. Then in Mario Bros both sons are plumbers that end up in the mushroom Kingdom
Then who was in Wrecking Crew, the Punch-out referee, and such?
I dunno it seems confusing to me, and the NES manual (which you can legally download now off the NES Classic Edition website) for DK calls the main character "Mario" so it's always going to be Mario for me.
Plus making Mario and "Jumpman" different characters kinda makes Mario and DK lose their connection together.
7:07 i was NOT expecting to see Ranma 1/2 referenced in one of your videos lol
Wow…..I didn’t know that Mario’s design were also contributed by famous artist and animators. Shows how much of a big deal it was back then. That’s pretty neat trivia.
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The first picture of Mario he showed when he ask if we could recognise him. That was Mario’s dad
4:41 I've been looking for video game characters with black curly hair
Yesssssssss, i've waited so long for this!!!!!!
Apparently the fanon is that jumpman is Mario and luigi's grandfather or great uncle or something along those lines. The linchpin of this seems to be an obscure reference to jumpman in Mario's Hotel, the ancient and not that good cgi game that came out around the same time as wand of gameleon.
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Sorry I'm four minutes late. I got distracted by a Luigi FIFA commercial
SAME
I loved that one!!
Mario was serving Waluigi vibes 6:18
Super Mario brings me a lot of joy and comfort. I have a nephew close to my age and when we were kids, we'd play Mario together on Gameboy, then on DS. It was a lot of fun!
Would you be interested in make one of these videos on Wario? He’s had a lot of interesting tweaks to his design over the years (plus the major change for his WarioWare appearances) and I think it could make for a fun video.
I say even that very first ‘pixelated’-Mario still looks much more like the current one then those first two ‘drawings’ that came right after it 😄
The one with the long hair looks a lot the one that Captain Lou Albano played in the 90s.
14:20 there’s actually a lot of difference’s proportion wise as well as clothing wise so I’d say the Mario movie design is a different design for mario
I like to headcanon that Jump-Man is Mario's father, because it better lines up with the Donkey Kong timeline.
Mario and Luigi became plumbers in New Donk City, before moving to the Mushroom Kingdom looking for work (they heard it was full of pipes).
He eventually swapped colors on the sweater and overall as well. The first Mario had red overall and blue sweater. A subtle change.
Mario is such a great icon. He's as iconic as Mickey Mouse and yet his creation origins are connected to Popeye the sailor man.
Now, please let's all just ignore what Pac-Man looks like in the artwork on the original arcade game.
This was an excellent video!
Everybody gangsta till Mario turns into an oversimplified logo
Nintendo: this is still mario because we redesign him
SEGA: this isn't a sonic redesign this is a diffrent sonic form a diffrent Universe we swear
I really like this video it's really interesting how certain things about a characters design can make or break a character and become instantly iconic and recognizable take mickey mouse for instance also another most recognizable character on the planet his head and ears and pants and shoes being instantly recognizable to everyone. Stuff like this I find really fascinating so thanks for the video👍I would love to see more like this like one for sonic even I already know the history for most of these characters bit I think it would be cool for other people to know too
Very nice video 🙂 keep up the great work 👍
Original mario looks like he’s going to steal Christmas from whovile
Great documentary! But I wanted to ask, what about Super Mario RPG? That seemed like the transition between the SNES and the N-64. I think with the technical limitations of the SNES, they did a pretty good job simulating a 3D look in games like Super Maro RPG and the Donkey Kong Country series.
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I remember when I first started to play Mario games 🎮
And I have come so far on my Mario journey
Every day 14:41
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Something very important that you missed. The 1983/1984 Saturday morning cartoon called Supercade. Mario was on that cartoon. He looks different from the other old ones.
This is so awesome ... liked it 😊
I actually really like the old design with older mario, the one we have today is too cutesy...
Why can't we play as an old, grumpy, italian imigrant. Like the one in the old movie (which is great btw), he is ugly, drinks and smokes and is generally unappealing, but he's more real and grounded, more imaginative.
14 year old designing a character be like:
I like the new one, we don't want another shadow the hedgehog
Cute-looking characters are more appeling
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IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I WAS WAITING FOR ANOTHER VIDEO ABOUT CHARACTERS THAT DO NOT LOOK LIKE THEY USED TO.