Entrepreneurs With "NO EXPERIENCE" Attempt To Democratise The Art World | Dragons' Den
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2019
- Francesco, Lise, and Christian from 'Feral Horses' operate a platform for fractional ownership of artworks, enabling individuals to support their favorite artists for as little as a fiver. The three connected in 2014 at university and are looking for a £50,000 in return for 2% of their business. Breaking down the walls of a 'smoke & mirrors' industry may be applauded by Deborah but the big collectors will walk all over them...
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Me: hears £50,000 for 2%
Me again: (in Touker style voice) I don't get out of bed for 2%!
But he does give office space ahahahaha
Jack Jordan there was this man who sold 1 percent of his company for 150k
Jenny doesnt get out of Toucans bed for any % lol
Jack Jordan I did the samething especially when it showed his face after he said what they wanted!?! I was waiting for him to say it. XoX
😂😂😂😂😂
100/ 2 = 50. 50x50000= 2.5m
i’ll let jenny off for not making an offer on this one
hahahahaha
😂👌
OK nice one.
JD imipramine
@@MasumAhmed-eu4fw what?
"As in actual money?"
"No, World of Warcraft tokens"
Every time I rewatch this clip I look forward to this line and the face that goes with it more than any other moment of this pitch😂😂😂
They only invested Dogecoin
Why would they need to? You can buy a domain name for $14/year and host your website on an $100 refurbished computer from your home. If one of them knows how to build and host a website (or how to Google how to do that), then with them all working full-time for no pay, they didn't really need to invest any money
rise up sons of the horde
No, monopoly money
Narrator: And now Peter Jones wants to say hi.
Peter Jones: Hi.
Narrator: Peter Jones has just said hi.
If you ar asking for problem, Peter can give you advice: 'you can have problem which you want, but..'
The Narrator of Narrators: The Narrator has just commented that Peter Jones has said Hi
@@psoteriou3884 Hi was oder wer? HH?
Hi Hi
...Saw that punchline. Saaaw that punchline.
"I've sat here quietly because... I actually have no money."
She sold her ATM business for 50 million;)
@@ipcressipcress7810 And spent most of that on blue dresses.
And red...
ipcress ipcress wooooshhh
Jenny gets a lot of stick for rarely investing, but look at it this way... how many of these businesses actually go on to make a return? I'd wager that significantly less than 50% do. Many of these pitches are punts and gambles, if we're to assume that the show is real and the agreements made are carried through without proper due diligence on the dragons part into the businesses.
So if you're an investor sitting there, and you are bound to invest £50-100k on a handshake without any proper due diligence, you'd be very cautious about what you invest in. And probably stick to only the best ideas and probably businesses you probably have industry experience and connections in.
It's also often about people. You're investing in a person as much as the business. And you might have to see 20 people before you see 1 you can feel is investable and someone you like and can work with.
People that come on here offering less than 10% of their company are stupidly confident and dare I say, quite cheeky.
Yeah time wasters
They don't go on the show for investment, They go on for the free marketing.
It depends on the company's value.
It's for negotiating purposes. The dragons almost always ask for higher equity than what is originally said, so if you go on and you give them the maximum amount you're willing to give from the start, it's almost a guarantee they'll aim higher.
Can't believe you'd dare say such a cheeky thing!
"What are your qualifications?"
"Well I'm Italian and she's French."
😂
😆😆😂
I love Debra. No big ego, insightful, practical and smart.
J FF and beautiful.
Kinda rare to see a rich person diss the art industry like her
ME TOO - SHE IS THE BEST
This is why when there is a close call, most choose her!
Joking arnt you?? She inherited all her wealth from her family and is only eco friendly when it suits herself. She virtue signals all the time!!
Peter and Tej have such a passive aggressive relationship lol
7:35 haha the way Tej said what propery geezerish what. You what m8
Tej lowkey wanted to sock him in the gob
Wonder if they hatefuck on the dl
Tej was about to cry
Big fan.
Basically we've made a stock market for upcoming artists you've never heard of
Our mates from university.
Heh yeah. That's certainly a good analogy. It's kind of like the ATM market for stocks (Alternative Investment Market) in London AKA 'Penny Stocks'. New start-ups and companies you never heard of needing to raise equity. 70% will go bust or just do modest trading but 30% will take off and end up on the secondary and primary stock markets and make their shareholders very rich. It's just a punt and fun investment with low risk. I like the concept applied to art, but not sure it can work the same because these guys are not experienced with or connected to the serious art market. They don't seem to have any way of bringing value to artworks or artists, that part of their business model looks wobbly.
All up and coming artists are artists you've never heard of because the ones you've heard of are already up and came.
That guy in the middle looks like he was just thrown out of the 19th century
So, the 1800s then 🤣
Northy Great evaluation Sherlock
@@Lightworkps" Easy Elementary my dear Watson, Elementary."
A Dickensy character
Leon trotsky lol
That goatee screams bankruptcy
No, he looks like the Monopoly Man's rich Uncle Pennybags
Tuka Suliman get's his shirts second hand from Harry Hill.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dont you notice the T S on his cuffs
...No he doesn't, he gets them from his local Oxfam shop !
Don't know why everyone keeps on calling him tuka saliman, it's Tuco Salamanca.
What are the chances of that happening? *rolls eyes*
Deborah always gives great advice.
Feminism at its best. Leftist feminist women can take an example from her. Instead of crying about inequality and that men are making more money, you can also do things like Deborah and work for your cash and prove that a woman can have more money than a lot of men.
@@daviddijkstravevo105 exactly
@@daviddijkstravevo105 She did a great Oxford University interview talking about her career, and equality. It's about an hour long. Well worth it!
@@daviddijkstravevo105 Agreed, One notices how she often copies everything the men say and then says it in her own words thereafter when they don't bother splicing the episode to put her in a leadership light. Maybe feminists have a collective hearing problem.
@@daviddijkstravevo105 How many Deborah Meadens can you think of. When was the last time there were more women in the Den than men? You starting to see a pattern emerge? I once saw an albino penguin, and it got on the telly, but in the meantime, all the other penguins in the world are still black and white. The exception doesn't invalidate the rule.
Man: presses elevator button
Dragons den: INTENSE MUSIC
Man: presses elevator button
Dragons den: INTENSE MUSIC
Doors Open: Jenny says I'm out!
This meme format has been run into the ground. It doesn't even mean anything anymore.
Man: Writes TH-cam comment
Other Man: Writes a response
Hilarious.
@@EchoDissolve
Man: Writes TH-cam comment
Jenny says I'm out!!! Lol
it's a fake elevator too
@@eeDeen U RUINED MY CHILDHOOD. * IT IS A REAL ELEVATOR. * IT IS! IT IS! AND MEAT IS GOOD FOR ME. ITS GOOD FOR ME!!!
Touker “I don’t get out of bed for 2%” Suleyman.
No, but he'll get thousands of others out of bed for a $ a day. 😮
8:46
Narrator: *Jenny Campbell nods as she is happy to hear Peter Jones give a good reason to not invest. She can now reiterate what Peter said.*
Jenny was sitting quietly on this one, because she didn't get any samples or anything to eat for free.....lmfao
glad your infantile comment made yourself crack up.
@@LeslieJayBoschPhoto And for that reason you're out.
@@LeslieJayBoschPhoto *TRIGGERED*
@@LeslieJayBoschPhoto I think you been boshed Bosh!
@@LeslieJayBoschPhoto it made me crack up as well. However since there's an oversaturation of jenny comments i have no interest in investing a thumbs and therefore I'm out.
I'm out of Jenny jokes.
Lena Li and for that reason you’re in
jenny: u came in breathing the air that I'm breathing and for that reason I'm out
*+Lena Li*
There was only one Jenny joke and that got destroyed.
@@SueMead true
I'm surprised Peter Jones didn't say, "Show me the Monet"
Underrated 🤣 👌
This entire pitch was reminiscent of my meeting with my professors when I was editing and finishing my Senior Research Project in college. They rip you apart, show you everything you need to fix, what does not work, and why certain things are useless, and then proceed to wish you well.
I find it so cringe when people call themselves "head of" and "ceo" when its a company of like 3 people
Me too. Flex things thats not even big
To be fair, legally speaking that is what they are for a Proprietary Limited Company. They may be small scale, but it's more a question of leadership, roles and financial accountability.
As owner of a small business of 4 people, it’s not a flex it’s a necessity.
It's 'cringeworthy' is the grammatically correct way of describing that but if you want to help with dumbing down the english language then i suppose you were accurate enough...
Owning a legit business, its legally required.
Hi, my name is Out and for that Jenny, I'm reason.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏾⛔️. Stop it, I almost choked on my chocolate cus of you... 🍫
Hi, my name is Out and for that reason I'm Out and for that reason I'm Jenny.....etc
😂
@@DellaWatson-cz3mq I didn't get it
Very good!!
After listening to this beautiful young French woman's impassioned speech, I'm off to join the French Resistance movement and for that reason, je suis dehors.
Joe Clark 😂😂😂
She is rather delicious, isn't she... but tasty enough to commit treason for? Non! Zut alors!
White knight.
lolz.....
Joe Clark 😂😂😂
If someone would've told the dragons about NFTs now... Kudos to Debra for supplying the only usable and helpful feedback for their business.
Beat me to it, NFTs for sure..
Lol this episode was my first thought when someone was explaining nfts to me.
Oh god it's so ridiculous
NFT good call
That comment aged well
Touker and Peter were absolutely right on their decisions
The facial close ups from 5:54 - 5:58 are so bizarrely edited. Was the man with the glasses really that surprised at Touker saying "Put it this way"?
yes...
hahaha it cracked me up
He put it the wrong way.
Put it this way
:OOOO
He's the consummate weirdo, so who knows.
I love how offended the one guy looked when they were told they weren't experts.
Naivety is bliss
He's there but I have a ponytail to be fair he has as much credentials as many so called experts art is so subjective
You get that a lot with intellectual types. That 'I'm better than you and I know it' attitude is quite common.
He's probably spent ages 'talking art' to the people around him, as if he knows what he's talking about, only to get shut-down by people who are actually knowledgeable and all in front of the TV cameras, I can only imagine the embarrassment and cringe he was feeling in that moment, he knew what was coming, it was glorious 😭
@@KumaBean exactly! I just hope everyone he talked down to watched the episode and still makes fun of him for it 🤣🤣
These sound effects are getting out of hand
Dane Brass you should watch the American and Aussie version. It’s 50x worse
@@BobbyTMF no, I don't think I will
I agree! The sound effect at 3:33 that they keep using over and over again is particularly annoying.
Dat low piano-note they string down
BRRMMMM
@@BobbyTMF I was just about to make the same comment. The Aussie one is fkn incredibly bad. Not seen the American one, don't know if i want to...
Jenny doesn’t even listen to what the entrepreneurs say. She just thinks of elaborate reasons to go out
I think "I am Jenny" suffices at this point
Racks her brains on how to doge spending a pound note.
Your use of the word elaborate was immaculate
"you can have a problem all you like, i'm asking a question"...
Then ironically doesn't even ask a question lol.
Chango Chilemba ah fookin loov being interviewed kid!
Them pretending that’s a real elevator is my favorite part
:((( I thought it was real
Don't crush my dreams, my parents have done that enough already
Wish there was a live audience so I could see the production :)
it is real , it replaced he stairs
@@whoasked7192 it isn't. It's a different studio from the stairs. I can't remember where I heard it but it's a walk in walk out the other side area but it doesn't change floors. It's not an actual elevator.
Tej Lalvani always looking like he’s in the middle of a breakup
FINALLY, someone found a need for an Art History degree.
"I'm putting myself in the little guy,"
You heard it here first
😁😯
"...In the most wholesome way,... 😒"
6:48 Love Deborah's reaction to Tirade Sulkingman
I am an artist and I can tell you that Tuka is right. Artists hate people who have no expertise or knowledge in art having any control over their work. At least collectors and gallery owners love art and spend years studying it. Art is not a product. People like these guys are leaches.
Fellow artist here 🙋🏼♀️ and let's not forget about how hermetic the art world is. It doesn't matter if you have the money to buy a painting, if you are not going to add prestige to it they won't sell it to you (ask Daniel Radcliffe).. So a piece of art fractionally owned by 1000s of nobodies would do nothing for the artist's reputation and bottom line
@@the_endling Excellent point.
Good points.
Why does this have the feeling of three college kids just handed in there assignments to there professor, that was just a bust 😂😂😂
*their
I don’t think they are real Italians because they didn’t do the Italian hand gestures when speaking
Haha but they did it at the end, capish
The "Warrah you mean??" hand gesture?
ehh fugget about it
They've lived in Britain too long.. that's why
yeah and I didn't hear a single 'ba-da-da-boop-ee'
They all think their idea is ingenious until they are torn apart savagely by Peter Jones
I don't think PJ changed their minds.
NFTs before they were "cool"
Stole the words out of my mouth
As a professional artist,I agree with the dragons.
phil ok boomer
topopops Dead meme, so who's the boomer now? There was also nothing boomer about the original comment.
Serbian Sauvage BOOMAH
topopops - incel
@@topopops Pinggggg...G.
Touker: "Does any of your paintings need an office in central London?"
jenny: im out
audience: well, i dont think she is wrong about that one
jenny: im in.
Absolutely no one:
Tucker: office space
Donn Guddz im surprised the other dragons have not called him out on having empty offices and warehouses, hes a dragon but thats an unnecessary cost to have (rent for empty space).
@@Omor214 for real and I don't actually know why jenny is there at all she never invest
Donn Guddz its 2019 and the feminists are winning the war, shes there so the programme isnt to male dominated which is sad really because jenny is not good for anything but a meme
*Touker
@@Omor214 She's invested a few times, actually. Also, people that watch TV want to see themselves represented - nowt to do with feminism. :)
as an artist myself i cannot fathomo why an artist would put artwork up for sale on such a platform when you can be printing and selling the same artwork somewhere else and make way more money.
Also, they are aiming for high priced art to rent out but they are forgetting that expensive art pieces have mostly dead authors who could not possibly be painting from the grave.
Anyone else a little bit confused after their pitch 🙄😐
Totally! In fact it bored me.
Absolutely
Was about to say the same thing. I have no idea what was going on
they are obviously struggling to connect with their ideas in english, which is evidently not their preferred language...another thing being that this whole business is huge smoke and mirrors pipe dream
Peter's facial expression whenever he hears that high valuation implied by the low equity offer!
*Jenny about to speak*
Entrepreneur: We know, you're out. Thanks.
Jenny had the exact same feelings as I, when they were asked if others have done what they have done, and they said yes but have failed... they literally just cut their throats there and then. That comment alone was enough to put any chance of an investment out the window.
3:43
Peter: No, counterfeit money.
Actually his response was good. Peter didn't ask how much money he'd put into the business, but "what" he's put in. He answered that he'd put in labour of 2 years working. Peter should be more specific if he's asking about money.
‘Itsss a picture, of WHISTLERS MOTHER’
Mr Bean!!
I cant help to get this scenario out of my head lol, 3:36
"My car is worth a lot of money."
"Ok, it must drive very well, yes?"
"Nope, it actually does not drive at all."
"Oh. Did you put gasoline in your car?"
"What? You mean ACTUAL gasoline?"
"Well.... Yea."
"Nope."
Whateverworks. lmfaooo best comment ever ... LOOOOOOOL
The French girl is the best piece of art there
Bet Jenny has a cracking minge though
Deborah is better.
@@orangejuice4657 I'm her secret admirer
She sounded like she was about to cry
@@bigbobabc123You would pull "Out"
The guy with the silly hair looks like a guy who just loves to rub people up the wrong way.
8:20 you can tell the girl is clearly a struggling artist from what she says and the way she's frustrated and emotional while saying it....
I wouldn't be surprised if she painted all of the 22 paintings that the guys claim to have on their website.
I've watched every series of dragons den and liked most of the dragons but the best dragons have always been deborah she makes fair offers gives great advice and Duncan hes always prepared to give people a chance Lee Hambleton from Sheffield
I love that you sign your comment
Jenny : I am a piece of art myself and for that reason I am OUT!
NFT says hi from 2022.
7:31 "you can have a problem all you like, but I'm asking questions" Damn, Peter rules the roost! Love it
Only white people chat like that, no manners. Dragons den is going to his head....
Peter Jones is rude and mean... towards the kindest person in there! Says a lot about him.
@@markgomez3688 Umm that's racist mate.
That's was just being rude
That was the best moment......just brushed tej off ..... #RSS #BrownNazi #Indians #pisser #KickTejOffTheShow
I really hate this style of editing that is trying to tell you how to think/feel. Becomes very annoying.
You think this is bad, the US version is ten times worse.
It's not too bad
Ryan Swann we will miss you
UK programs didn't used to be like this. The strained instruments, quick camera movements and jump cuts are a cable US TV trope.
@@kirishima638 have you seen Sherlock Holmes with Cumberbatch
So this is what people do after graduation with a degree in art?
Touker will screw his face up
Tej will say what's already been said
Peter will complete annihilate their dreams
Deborah will hug their soul with warm words of wisdom
Jenny????
Peter: "How much money?"
Insert 5:57 shot.
Guy: "Real actual money?"
8:48 seeing the close up of Jenny just nodding as Peter was like “you’re not investable” shows how she was just waiting to say im out without looking poor 😂😂
the girl is seriously pretty...
Yep
@@danielmoore9209 Freakiest too.
@@shino8854 why freakiest?
@Pink Alien how so?
Smartest too.
I didn't wake up from my bed at 1 and have tea to invest in 2%
what a smart thing to tell investors. other people have tried this and failed.
Jenny: its art, dont give me the brush off... for that reason Im art, err I mean out
It’s truly an art how Jenny manages to come up with the excuses to say ‘i’m out’
💀💀💀💀
That's why she was so quite she was thinking.
"Hahaha". These type of jokes have never been done before! You are so original! 🙄
Are you 12 years old? Or do you just think and act like you are 12? Still fishing for likes with that tired, old, repititive, idiotic meme? Unable to engage in mature and thoughtful commentary and discussion, so you resort to the only thing you know how: spamming the comments with pointless, irrelevant nonsense. Pitiful and sad.
She may be the highest percentage gained over the amount spent in investments though. She chooses pretty wisely
"As in actual money ?" Had laughing so hard !
This is similar to the idea of NFTS. It's crazy to see how much the market has changed in just 2 years, they were just ahead of the trend.
Imagine telling Mark Zuckerberg he didn't have any experience running a social network when he just started out.
Best comment
That's not the same lol.
2:35 Jenny has already decided 😂
7.36, Tej says "what" like I used to say "what" when my mother said no sweets until you had your dinner. 🤣🤣🤣🤣.RIP mother xx
This sounds like NFTs before NFTs.
Peter Jones always comes in with the killing blow
that French girl is quite beautiful. I would totally invest in her
Not really
@@kirishima638 why
"oh my god how dare you find someone attractive? Misogynist!!! Is that all you think about?"
Fakeslimshady bitter incel lol. You’re the only one who made a comment like this. Did your heart get broken?
@@nocreativename too dumb to understand sarcasm huh?
About time I bloody subscribed.
Love the sound effects
Deborah is smarter in her sleep, than I ever could be at my most awake!! If someone said I could have a dinner party and invite anyone in the world, she would for sure be on my list of guests, I love her. However I'm not sure how she would feel about sitting next to Aileen Wornoss, who I'd also invite 🤣🥂🍴🍽🍝
I never realised Harry Hill was a regular on Dragon’s Den...Harry Hill - Touker’s brill !
Aaaand relax
Touker referring to the 'little guy' is one of the most condescending things I've heard on this show 😂
Thank you Peter and Deborah!
Dude on the left looks like Goyle from Harry Potter with glasses
2% for 50000 pans.
Reasonable
"I'm sorry, I've sat quietly, becaus I think I'm out..."
Jenny: "You spoke and for that reason I am out"
Very nice of Deborah giving great advice instead of trashing them like all the other dragons did.
I think they have no idea that time invested doesn't automatically add value. "I worked 2 years full time for no money" So? What value did it add?
toucker just went all grandpa on em and Deborah went "ignore your grandpa he doesn't know what hes on about"
JENNY, SECONDS AFTER BIRTH: "I'M OUT!"
The goatee went back to playing guitar and selling joints after this...
If I want artwork I'll buy it for myself to have in my home not to have a percentage of it and never getting to truly enjoy it
France and Italy Vs Britain.
Who would've guessed the result.
Ouch you Brits are painfully deluded
@@Honking_Goose Not British.
that french accent it worth 1M alone..
Wait... so it's a timeshare for lobby art? Are we going to have an industry that revolves around getting out of your art timeshare spring up in a few years?
Jenny sits and writes her daily grocery list and the last item is...... I'm out.
That thumbnail doe when you play knock and ginger and the granny threatens you
These people are doing so well.. rich people have huge egos... but they seem to get along well.. there isn’t a lot of negative tension.. good business