My 2016 3500 68RFE was replaced around 25,000 miles. It just burned. I have a 2022 3500 with Aisin and I love it. No problems at all. I don't use my truck for hot shot and don't town every day, but refuse to buy another RAM with the 68RFE.
The 68rfe in my 2018 failed at 49,xxx miles. Half ton towable camper mostly on the interstate. When I got it back from Ram it was more dialed than when it was new. They covered the rebuild 100%!
Agreed 100%...our 2021 68rfe actually has flared shifts on the 3-4 shift that I don't like. I've driven an HO truck and definitely prefer the more firm shifts of the Aisin. Take care of it, maintain it and be easy on it till it let's go...
Im also the Contractor guy with the 68, I built and tuned mine. I only tow 12k max and it suites my needs perfectly. If i towed real weight then an Aisin for sure.
Bought a used stock 2012 Ram 3500 4x4 DRW w/150k miles on it. Has the 68RFE. Use it to tow my 14k lb 5th wheel and occasionally a flat bed utility trailer with a UTV. Now has 168k miles on it. So far no issues with the tranny. Its in the shop now for a cracked exhaust manifold, needs no gaskets and seals for the turbo, EGR, exhaust pipe, and manifold. Thats just normal wear and tear with any truck seals. Its not deleted because I have to do smog checks where I’m at and they make sure to do visual inspections for everything.
I had a 2021 68rfe and towed a 15k 5th wheel across the country 4 times and everywhere else. it had 66k miles when I sold the truck and never had a single issue. i kinda miss it
Had 225kkm on my 68rfe was fine will I was a dumbass and cooked it. Got a full rebuild and tcs clutch kit, all new solenoids, tc, updated spacer plate etc had the bd line psi booster and had shifting issues after 4800km…took apart and rebuilder found a nice transgo shift kit, now she shifts better than any diesel I’ve been in. Around town 9-1000 rpm and WOT good crispy critter shifts.
Thank you. That answered my questions precisely. But you are a professional and not someone who's had 2 rams and thinks they're a expert. I've worked on the cab n chassis when I worked for trash companies, but have had no experience with the 68. Thank you again
If you had same specs, same trim, and same miles with a similar price 4th and 5th gen which would you choose? I’m finding 4th gens are holding price better than 5th gen
Congratulations on your new Ram!!! I concur 99% with you. My previous only first diesel truck was a 2017 ford f350 and sold it at 123,000 miles that was purchased new. Then three weeks ago, I drove to Oklahoma from Nevada to purchased my new 23 Ram 3500 dually high ouput diesel with Aisin and 4:10 gearing. Made the 1,200 miles trek home and couldn't tell the difference much compare to my late f350 diesel srw. I'm just really glad to be a new Ram owner and enjoyed every mile of it. 3,000 miles on the odometer since purchased and I am convinced I made the right choice.
From what I’m seeing on the Chrysler stat sheet the A6-AS69RC has a much higher GCWR than the 68RFE. I’m gun shy on all Chrysler products since my parents, brother, and best friend bought one and got a lemon. Best friend bought a 2500 11’ and the transmission detonated twice before three times before 15000 miles while only pulling a small farrier trailer.
My 16 ram and 18 both had the aisin and both would sometimes have a little slip from 2nd to 3rd gear. Most often be the first time after they had sat overnight.
I have a 2014 CCLB DRW with the Aisin, I haul a 2022 Momentum 397THS. I'm tipping the scales at about 19k with my 5th wheel and it does well. I am upset at the the turbo actuator going out at 61k. But, my Cummins and my Aisin is a beast pulling my toy hauler.
The Aisin and Cummins combo is the best most reliable combo out there for folks who work their trucks everyday. I don’t think anything else comes close.
I had a tuned and deleted 2015 5500 service truck. 20,050 pounds 7 days a week and I drove the piss out of that truck. 144k on the truck when I took another job, that aisin never missed a beat and I loved it compared to my junk 68rfe.
(You're up near my neck of the woods on today's drive.) Anyway, I have a 68RFE and use it to haul camp trailers, boats and cargo trailers for a company out of Indiana. Whereas nothing I tow is generally over 12k, my truck is hooked to a trailer more often than not. Quite often I'm up and over Snoqualmie, Lookout and Deadman's passes. I've been thinking about switching to a Aisin and would like to pick your brain regarding this and some other Ram related things. Do you check your emails often or can I reach you by phone at STS? Thanks.
I was considering the PPEI tune and looked into it but it comes at a high price. My 2017 with AISIN shift perfectly except when towing its lazy on the downshift between 4-3-2. It wants to hold the gear rather than downshifting and causes the engine to lug down too much. I always tow using tow haul and usually lock out 6th on the highway. I'm looking for a fix. Any ideas?
I hate the 68rfe. If I hadn't test drive multiple new and used trucks to get a feel for it I'd be left thinking it was burned up with those weird shift flares it does. That being said I recently purchased a 2017 3500 with the 68rfe. It doesn't have the manual mode and crisp shifts that the Ford 6r140 has but what it does have is a straight 6 Cummins attached to it. That 6.7 powerstroke cost me more than a 68rfe rebuild will. I don't hate Ford but what I know is that the Cummins will be a LOT easier to work on in my garage (or even for a mechanic) than the rats nest of tubes and wires in that Ford engine bay. Like Paul said, the Ram is an old dumb slow tractor but I love every minute pulling 12k lbs up mountain pass after mountain pass in 5th gear while the Ford was hunting for gears and getting hot (2011-2014 Fords had some pretty lame turbos). I'm going to follow some basic advice like mostly stay out of 6th while towing (3.42 gears are high anyway) and ease it into 5th gear manually and ease into that throttle while towing.
I currently have a 2019 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi w/ZF tranny. I love the truck and tow about 10k RV every 2 weeks. I will be buying a Ram 5500 and building a flatbed camper permanently on an aluminum bed (about 6K lbs wet) to travel fulltime. I do not usually put more than 8k on my truck per year. I am looking for input from folks regarding hemi (w/aisin) vs cummins (w/aisin). Cost of purchase and maint vs the constant load on the truck is my biggest concerns. Thanks
I’m so torn I’m planning on ordering a new ram… I’m a remodel contractor my truck is my daily driver and 100% of the miles are driven with a 16’ equipment trailer hooked up, never more than 10k lbs. I can’t decide I really can’t
Get the 68rfe if you're not towing a whole lot. I have a 2017 I drive mostly freeway and around town. I tow a 16k trailer probably 1 or 3 times a month and sometimes 300 miles. It's a great transmission. The Aisin feels lazy when unloaded. Slow off the line, same on the freeway passing. But it's made to tow not haul @$$.
What drives me insane is looking for a truck and realizing 90% of them for sale have 68rfe's. I worked at a transmission shop. It's an in house made piece of trash. Aisin is essentially Toyota. That should answer the question of which one.
@@keeney413, Allison doesn’t have 8 or 10 speed, zf company doesn’t have 8 speed that can support cummins torque. Aisin doesn’t have 8 speed that can support cummins torque. Only option left is to revise 68rfe and add to more gears to 8 speed.
@@keeney413 with current big 3 strike the only thing will come out in the next few months is the part’s shortage and inflated prices to rob people even harder
@@nickti2006 yeah, of coarse most peeps on internet say it will last ten miles doing that lol. thats why i watch PD diesel. if i mod truck, its because he says its a issue
And that’s one of the reasons the Aisin is so good, it’s a Toyota owned company. Go by any transmission shop and count the number of Toyota’s in their parking lot, it won’t be many.
“Look at what Ram puts in their cab and chassis” yep have to agree with you on that.
My 2016 3500 68RFE was replaced around 25,000 miles. It just burned. I have a 2022 3500 with Aisin and I love it. No problems at all. I don't use my truck for hot shot and don't town every day, but refuse to buy another RAM with the 68RFE.
Stock
68 is a Chrysler product and aisin is a Toyota product. Enough said
The 68rfe in my 2018 failed at 49,xxx miles. Half ton towable camper mostly on the interstate. When I got it back from Ram it was more dialed than when it was new. They covered the rebuild 100%!
Agreed 100%...our 2021 68rfe actually has flared shifts on the 3-4 shift that I don't like. I've driven an HO truck and definitely prefer the more firm shifts of the Aisin. Take care of it, maintain it and be easy on it till it let's go...
Im also the Contractor guy with the 68, I built and tuned mine. I only tow 12k max and it suites my needs perfectly. If i towed real weight then an Aisin for sure.
Bought a used stock 2012 Ram 3500 4x4 DRW w/150k miles on it. Has the 68RFE. Use it to tow my 14k lb 5th wheel and occasionally a flat bed utility trailer with a UTV. Now has 168k miles on it. So far no issues with the tranny. Its in the shop now for a cracked exhaust manifold, needs no gaskets and seals for the turbo, EGR, exhaust pipe, and manifold. Thats just normal wear and tear with any truck seals. Its not deleted because I have to do smog checks where I’m at and they make sure to do visual inspections for everything.
Kory Willis with PPEI has tunes available for the Aisin transmission now.
I had a 2021 68rfe and towed a 15k 5th wheel across the country 4 times and everywhere else. it had 66k miles when I sold the truck and never had a single issue. i kinda miss it
was it a dually or single wheel? And how did it handle the weight?
@carlosh6497 it was a srw truck and i hardly even knew i was towing. I had airbags just to keep it levle and i was almost always max payload.
Had 225kkm on my 68rfe was fine will I was a dumbass and cooked it. Got a full rebuild and tcs clutch kit, all new solenoids, tc, updated spacer plate etc had the bd line psi booster and had shifting issues after 4800km…took apart and rebuilder found a nice transgo shift kit, now she shifts better than any diesel I’ve been in. Around town 9-1000 rpm and WOT good crispy critter shifts.
Thank you. That answered my questions precisely. But you are a professional and not someone who's had 2 rams and thinks they're a expert. I've worked on the cab n chassis when I worked for trash companies, but have had no experience with the 68. Thank you again
If you had same specs, same trim, and same miles with a similar price 4th and 5th gen which would you choose? I’m finding 4th gens are holding price better than 5th gen
Could not agree more! 68RFE when towing the weekend boat or drag racing car, aisian for everyday hot shot business!
I’ve owned 3 Aisin’s and my 23 is by far the smoothest. Shifts are now nice and crisp. Not sure what they did but it definitely has an updated tune.
Congratulations on your new Ram!!! I concur 99% with you. My previous only first diesel truck was a 2017 ford f350 and sold it at 123,000 miles that was purchased new. Then three weeks ago, I drove to Oklahoma from Nevada to purchased my new 23 Ram 3500 dually high ouput diesel with Aisin and 4:10 gearing. Made the 1,200 miles trek home and couldn't tell the difference much compare to my late f350 diesel srw. I'm just really glad to be a new Ram owner and enjoyed every mile of it. 3,000 miles on the odometer since purchased and I am convinced I made the right choice.
@@j.l.salayao8055. Just wait another few 1000 miles. Lol
@@j.l.salayao8055 it’s a boot
@@j.l.salayao8055I drive a ram 3500 dually high output with the aisin and I’m at 21k miles and hasn’t given me any problems
2022*
Hey Paul, make a video on your 5th gens, what mileage are you getting out of them, and any major repairs?
From what I’m seeing on the Chrysler stat sheet the A6-AS69RC has a much higher GCWR than the 68RFE. I’m gun shy on all Chrysler products since my parents, brother, and best friend bought one and got a lemon. Best friend bought a 2500 11’ and the transmission detonated twice before three times before 15000 miles while only pulling a small farrier trailer.
Ppei just released beta tuning for the 13-18 aisin. I just ordered it with the efi live autocal v3 to load it.
My 16 ram and 18 both had the aisin and both would sometimes have a little slip from 2nd to 3rd gear. Most often be the first time after they had sat overnight.
Whats your opinion on Allison swaps
I know nothing about either, but I know the 68rfe has a ton of aftermarket support. I dread the day I have to buy a new truck and deal it then.
I have a 2014 CCLB DRW with the Aisin, I haul a 2022 Momentum 397THS. I'm tipping the scales at about 19k with my 5th wheel and it does well. I am upset at the the turbo actuator going out at 61k. But, my Cummins and my Aisin is a beast pulling my toy hauler.
The Aisin and Cummins combo is the best most reliable combo out there for folks who work their trucks everyday. I don’t think anything else comes close.
I had a tuned and deleted 2015 5500 service truck. 20,050 pounds 7 days a week and I drove the piss out of that truck. 144k on the truck when I took another job, that aisin never missed a beat and I loved it compared to my junk 68rfe.
just got a 23 ram 2500 with the 68rfe , first 1500km home 8hours one day hours the next , ran good , smooth shifting , uphill no struggle
(You're up near my neck of the woods on today's drive.) Anyway, I have a 68RFE and use it to haul camp trailers, boats and cargo trailers for a company out of Indiana. Whereas nothing I tow is generally over 12k, my truck is hooked to a trailer more often than not. Quite often I'm up and over Snoqualmie, Lookout and Deadman's passes. I've been thinking about switching to a Aisin and would like to pick your brain regarding this and some other Ram related things. Do you check your emails often or can I reach you by phone at STS? Thanks.
I was considering the PPEI tune and looked into it but it comes at a high price. My 2017 with AISIN shift perfectly except when towing its lazy on the downshift between 4-3-2. It wants to hold the gear rather than downshifting and causes the engine to lug down too much. I always tow using tow haul and usually lock out 6th on the highway. I'm looking for a fix. Any ideas?
I hate the 68rfe. If I hadn't test drive multiple new and used trucks to get a feel for it I'd be left thinking it was burned up with those weird shift flares it does. That being said I recently purchased a 2017 3500 with the 68rfe. It doesn't have the manual mode and crisp shifts that the Ford 6r140 has but what it does have is a straight 6 Cummins attached to it. That 6.7 powerstroke cost me more than a 68rfe rebuild will. I don't hate Ford but what I know is that the Cummins will be a LOT easier to work on in my garage (or even for a mechanic) than the rats nest of tubes and wires in that Ford engine bay. Like Paul said, the Ram is an old dumb slow tractor but I love every minute pulling 12k lbs up mountain pass after mountain pass in 5th gear while the Ford was hunting for gears and getting hot (2011-2014 Fords had some pretty lame turbos). I'm going to follow some basic advice like mostly stay out of 6th while towing (3.42 gears are high anyway) and ease it into 5th gear manually and ease into that throttle while towing.
Slow thing live long life. Look at turtles leave for 100 years and cheetah 10 years max
68rfe driven to the parking deck and back down the interstate. 14k miles of towing a tt on the clock with a total of 150. Trans dead. Truck stock.
I currently have a 2019 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi w/ZF tranny. I love the truck and tow about 10k RV every 2 weeks. I will be buying a Ram 5500 and building a flatbed camper permanently on an aluminum bed (about 6K lbs wet) to travel fulltime. I do not usually put more than 8k on my truck per year. I am looking for input from folks regarding hemi (w/aisin) vs cummins (w/aisin). Cost of purchase and maint vs the constant load on the truck is my biggest concerns. Thanks
It's too bad they never made a 2500 with cummins and zf8. I would have bought one by now. But hemi? Never
You convinced me to get one. I have a 21 3500 dully ho.
aisin a140e fan here. the 4 spd can shift as fast as the 6 spd. 4 spd will do lots. modified its bonkers
I’m so torn I’m planning on ordering a new ram… I’m a remodel contractor my truck is my daily driver and 100% of the miles are driven with a 16’ equipment trailer hooked up, never more than 10k lbs. I can’t decide I really can’t
Get the 68rfe if you're not towing a whole lot. I have a 2017 I drive mostly freeway and around town. I tow a 16k trailer probably 1 or 3 times a month and sometimes 300 miles. It's a great transmission. The Aisin feels lazy when unloaded. Slow off the line, same on the freeway passing. But it's made to tow not haul @$$.
Any reason you don’t run any manual trucks?
After 2018 ram stopped making them and they were the last one to make one.
No kidding? Didn’t know that. Thank you.
Most likely the next gen will have an 8 speed ZF 8AP I think it is. No way GM will let Allison sell transmissions to Chrysler.
Allison doesn’t make transmission for gm anymore. 10 speed is gm designed and gm built. Gm bought Allison name to slap on the truck to fool people
@@repairvehicleyup. Foolin people everyday.
How can a normal guy tell what trans a used ram has? Any quick tellbtales?
Dipstick is on the drivers side.
Aisin has dipstick on drivers side.
68rfe dipstick is on passenger side.
Thanks guys
What drives me insane is looking for a truck and realizing 90% of them for sale have 68rfe's. I worked at a transmission shop. It's an in house made piece of trash. Aisin is essentially Toyota. That should answer the question of which one.
Just wait for the 8-speed.
It will never happen
@@repairvehicle You type without experience. Keep watching the next few months.
@@keeney413, Allison doesn’t have 8 or 10 speed, zf company doesn’t have 8 speed that can support cummins torque. Aisin doesn’t have 8 speed that can support cummins torque. Only option left is to revise 68rfe and add to more gears to 8 speed.
@@repairvehicle see my last comment
@@keeney413 with current big 3 strike the only thing will come out in the next few months is the part’s shortage and inflated prices to rob people even harder
The 68 werent bad in the 2007-2012 6.7. 2013 and new they are complete junk
i just bought 17k camper with my 68rfe.... ugga. hope she holds.
You are fine unless you tow tens of thousands of miles a year up and down steep passes
@@nickti2006 yeah, of coarse most peeps on internet say it will last ten miles doing that lol. thats why i watch PD diesel. if i mod truck, its because he says its a issue
I spent the last 2 years towing a 37’ travel trailer with a 3/4ton with the 68rfe. It’s been a great transmission. Worked well for what I needed.
all dodge transmissions suck
And that’s one of the reasons the Aisin is so good, it’s a Toyota owned company. Go by any transmission shop and count the number of Toyota’s in their parking lot, it won’t be many.
my aisin is crap a chevy trans is night and day superior
@@dhg1839 A GM transmission…..superior to an Aisin…right.