Really makes me appreciate my 2003. It has no choked down emissions, it has no Def, it has no sorry automatic transmission.....it has no 80 grand price tag....it's lean and clean, simple and mean!
I have a first gen and had a 2006. Both extremely reliable trucks. Wish I had another '05-'06. My '90 first gen has 935,000 miles and would not be afraid to drive it across the US. Still performs great.
@@Hollywoodhouse74 That would probably be more on some of their transmissions, the Cummins engines are pretty solid. The 6.7 is prone to more problems because of the emissions bullshit.
I had a big dealership tell me I did the right thing when I told them my truck lost all the emissions crap. This was back on a 2015 ram the service department told me majority of the issues with the trucks are emissions equipment problems then causing engine problems. I know it's frowned upon now but when you spend 65-85k on a truck it better last you a long time. Deleting the emissions is still the only safe way to go for longevity.
It’s the core reason for their issue. A good OC interval on these trucks is 5,000mi. Considering half the time is spent idling, I’d half that again and make it every 2,500 miles. Not to mention the fact that idling is horrible on these newer trucks. They run the EGR at idle and run sooty due to low combustion temps. This idling soots up the oil and clogs the DPF leading to more regen cycles.
I’m glad I found your videos because I’ve been planning to buy a 22 at the end of this year to get a deal but this scares me because I can’t be without my truck for months to get fixed
I have a 19 with 99K miles on it and it’s doing the exact same thing. You can actually here a loss of compression as it misfires and it does it really bad upon first startup just like yours. It is hard to hear on video because I’ve posted several videos on the ol forums and everyone says oh it sounds fine lol. The dealer actually said it was fine too until I told them to start up the brand new one sitting right next to it and see if it does what ours are doing lol. Yeah it’s been in the shop torn down for a total of four months waiting on Chrysler to approve the new engine and they are fighting it every step of the way! The tech said it was the cam and lifters at first but they said upon further inspection after getting into the engine that the whole thing needs to be replaced which is exactly what I said from the beginning.
I’ve got a 2022 3500 HO srw and still don’t have a problem. My 2021 5500 has its grimlins that won’t go away but it’s not terrible either. “Electronic throttle control” light won’t ever go away
Thank you Paul for stepping up to the plate to explain what you know so far. I realize you have a business reputation and a repair shop to maintain and it's a fine line to walk to go public with what you've learned, I thank you. Many of us have the 2022 Ram/Cummings trucks but we've spent a fortune by purchasing them and we depend, absolutely depend on them to perform as Ram/Cummings said they would, so the stakes are high, a lot is on the line and Ram/Cummings had better respond or the Ram/Cummings Reputation is lost forever. Blessings Paul, again thank you from all of us Ram Owners, we appreciate your insight.
That's sad I got a 20* 262k miles still the cp4 never heard a nock or seen the check engine come on. About to get the cp3 swap not to cross my fingers anymore at start-up
Nothing wrong with the trucks, his drivers are just too stupid to be driving diesels. Anyone who knows shit about trucks knows any emissions compliant diesel should not idle much. This twit has 1800 idle hrs 😂 a truck shouldn’t have 1800 idle hrs after 400,000 miles, let alone 1/4 of that. I’ve got a 22, it has 200,000 miles on it, it has 215 hours at idle. 1000% this guys “drivers” are to blame
Had a 21 with over 300,000 km on it other then oil changes tires and brakes never had a single problem on it traded it in for a late 2022 and no problems yet but will definitely be keeping a eye out for any warning signs
All this boils down to the excessive emissions requirements. Before emission got out of hand it was typical see 500k or so before any major issues outside the trans which always fails. My argument has been. The air may be cleaner out the tail pipe, but the the vehicles life is much shorter and that just moves the emissions to the manufacturing and disposal process. I think if anything it makes the air dirtier when taking all this into account. Just most of it is move over seas.
You're totally right. For a modern diesel to make it to 150k you're doing pretty good. 20 years ago that was just breaking it in. It was not uncommon at all to see them with 300k miles still driving up and down the road every day. Now that's like the exception to the rule. They're throwaway trucks. Huge liability to own one past warranty. Don't forget also about all the hundreds of gallons of wasted fuel from regens and DEF and plastic containers/cardboard boxes, as well as the rare metals used in the overly elaborate exhaust system. And the so called "clean" air that comes out the exhaust will choke you out. Diesel fumes might stink but that ammonia is just nasty. It has made them unaffordable, impractical and unreliable. What a shame.
@@fewworddotrick I can see that with school buses in my local district. The older IC CEs with the Maxxforce DT and dt466e’s run like a clock and rarely have problems that keep them in the shop for long periods of time. The Cummins ones (even including the Thomas C2’s) have many issues that keep them in the shop for a long time and the 2022 ones are even worse. Those ones have subs run for their route for a long time. Not to mention that the Cummins engines generally feel weaker on acceleration than the Maxxforce DT’s and other older diesel engines. Too many Emissions components ruined diesels.
I have been saying this for years. I have a ‘97 powerstroke with 385k, I have owned it for 23 years and it is still reliable as heck. I have a ‘10 Cummins dually g56 and it is definitely deleted. I hope to get as many miles out of it as I have my old ford.
Everything you have mentioned is worn out due to metallurgy or oil cannot lubricate. You should try different brand and compare results. I have mentioned in my previous post about Schaefer dealer having Cummins engines damaged due to the Schaefer oil. He stopped using Schaefer oil and switched back to Mobil 1, he has a fleet of trucks. He no longer sells it too.
Valid point since he uses Schaefer’s on everything. I’ve used Schaefer’s on my old 4th gen and now 22 without any signs but it’s worth trying to do some research on.
I'm 65 y o, drove used cars all my life, ordered my first ever new vehicle, a 2022 3500 HO and now this! Mine built in May. Got a build date range on your problem trucks? Vid in the dealership would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Cummins must think by the time an average person hits 100k miles we will be all electric and the warranty is out. Things are ridiculous with these 22s. Keep putting them on blast. Most people can't afford to have a 100k truck let alone one that keeps blowing up. Ridiculous
engines are built at cummins....someone needs to call Cummins and ask them!! now, the emissions system on the exhaust pipe is made by stellantis , that could be a problem.......
My friend made the mistake of buying a GMC. 6.2 litre engine. 77k truck. And the motor knocks and the lifters tick. I'm guessing it'll be just like his 18 and start having electrical problems in the dash and door as well.
My company has had approximately 500 Ram pickups in our fleet but due to the major issues they are now in the process of replacing them with Fords and Chevys. My company truck is a 2020 and has 112 highway miles on and other than the turbo actuator having to be replaced it has been a great truck.
I have heard that a little nut on the back side of the cold-start heating grid in the intake can come loose and fall into the #6 cylinder, BANKS sells their RAM AIR HORN that also replaces this part and prevents it. Seems to be a big issue? I wonder if this is the problem? For the DPF issue, I was told to only use the more expensive Platinum?
The grid heater bolt becomes an issue when the relay stays on and enough amperage runs thru the bolt. Makes it brittle and it falls off. My 08 had the original grid heater installed and never had an issue falling into the engine. I recently took it out since I got a good deal on a grid heater delete plate. You have less then a 1% chance of that bolt failing
@@repairvehicle You clearly haven't seen the video of the engine tear town with the nut that broke off, fell into the #6 piston and was imbedded into it needing and entire engine block replacement. It might be rare, but it has happened. Besides, his tests showing the increased airflow is self explanatory and obvious. The manufacturers are more concerned with emissions regulations than performance.
@@RobertMoseley , how much horsepower did engine gain with banks garbage air horn? You not going to find numbers because increase in flow only work high horsepower applications. With factory horsepower and increased flow actually lowers horsepower output.
My ‘22 just went into the dealership for internal engine issues. I have the Cummins HO engine. They aren’t aware of the issue yet, but to me it sounds like lifters. My truck only has 10,000 miles on it. I don’t use my truck for work so having it down doesn’t cost me anything. I am disappointed in Cummins for the significant drop in quality. As long as Ram and Cummins own up to the problems and fix them I can’t be too mad, but man am I disappointed.
I only have 2021 2500 Cummins with only 15,600 miles hardly run truck and a few days ago it wouldn’t start and now engine light is flashing and stays on!!
Really would like to see more detail on this because I felt like I had been missing something with all the vague allusions to a catastrophic failure that was never explained
The lifters are made of Chinesium and the lightweight oil is causing these failures. Some dealers are saying up to 6 months backordered on the engines. There is also the catastrophic failures of the Aisin transmissions for the 22s
@@kyles234 you say that but we were going on a 4 wheeling trip to west va doing a little "spirited" driving through the hills with our trailers on the way to the site. And my 2500 68rfe was staying pretty comfortable the whole time at 170. All this while the two Allison guys in the other trucks had to stop every 15mins or so because one was at 210 and the other was getting above 235.
Hey Paul thanks for the update on truck 22. That water in the fuel light comes on every time you're in the rain or wet conditions and then it turns itself back off tell the next damp area you get into LOL. Man I miss that truck anyway have a blessed day. And please keep us updated on what happens with her👍
2019 and newer models do not take 15/40 oil “15W-40 grade oil CAN NOT be used in any 2019 model year or newer 6.7L equipped vehicles due to the new designed valve train of this engine. If this oil is used, it will cause deposits to form in the Hydraulic Valve Lash Adjusters leading to undesirable noise, and/or engine damage.”
@david brown. I also have a 21'and it's been great. Don't mind this repair vehicle guy. He's just jacking his jaws. Paul knows what he's talking about.
@@Youngmechanical Something weird is going on for sure. Not sure if Cummins used sub par parts or if what a lot of people are saying in here about oil issues is the problem. I personally just run Amsoil 5w40 and change my oil every 8k no matter what. So far so good. I also run Hotshot EDT on each fill up and so far it’s been a perfect truck. I did change fuel filters at 10k and will again but this time at 12k. The filters at 10k were not that bad at all. Thanks for the reply.
I have a 21 as well. Awesome truck. 64k, no issues. Seems like the 21 is the best of the 5th gens so far. Cummins didn’t use sub par parts. Mopar did. They had Cummins add hydraulic lifters to the 19+s. You can’t even buy them from Cummins, it’s a mopar only part. All the 6.7s Cummins makes for other manufacturers still use the solid tappets and adjustable rockers, as all ISBs have used since their inception in 1998. Now we’re seeing cam and lifter failures in 6.7s, like the hemis have had since 09. This failure was virtually unheard of in a 5.9 or 6.7. Hydraulic lifters was a solution for a non existent problem.
I have seen engine builders complaining about premature lifter failures eating up the cam due to soft metal. Sighting supply chain issues causing cam manufacturers to source lifters from China. Wither it is a domestic or foreign the problem is improper procedures for the heat treatment process. I wonder if this applies to this problem, cam, lifters, rocker arms, and pushrods.
So is the dpf completely clogging off to the point where it’s not letting much pass through the exhaust and making the compression exit through the intake? I’m trying to figure out what goes wrong based your videos. Thanks 🙏 Paul. Great 👍🏼 info sir.
I will stick my 12 with 378,000 plus no def. Part of the problem with these newer high torque engines they are just pushing too much torque. But most of hauling is with an 05 Ford 6.0 and I never pull a hill like I need to get to the top first. I hold my egt and my ect temps down and keep my fuel pressure up. But I don`t know anybody down that has not had problems with the 18 and newer Rams. The only thing I worry about with my 12 Dodge is I check the grid heater bolt on a regular basis. But all cummins have there problems. We have 2 older 5.9s that have been killed my the dowel pin coming out and breaking the cam shaft.
I have a 22 dually 4:10 high output. The first few trips were fine. Then for some reason the exhaust was working 1/2 as strong as it was, not worried it has big breaks. I was going through the Ozarks down a big hill with the exhaust brake on and the curse had about 20k pounds behind me. The truck was picking up speed at about 74mph it down shifted and a second later it down shifted agan. Wound that tack around screamed the engine scared the hell out of me. I stomped on the accelerator to force an up shift, it shifted with a bang. It does this all the time now, It didn't do this on the first 2 trips. Told the dealers, they said they can't make it do it. So I don't think they don't believe me. Told them you would need a big load and hill. I am so sorry I got rid of my 15. The HO engine is supposed to have quite a few upgraded parts, what are the odds of having problem you are talking about?
I bought my 2007.5 at 18months old and 67000 miles. The DPF was totally clogged with ash. You cannot burn ash in the DPF. Of course I drove really fast down a horrible road and some stuff fell out. Hole saw took care of the ash problem. Oil change at 3000 15W-40. I don't care what they would say, no way I would run 5W in a diesel. Truck runs better than new still at 16 years old, 240000 miles 74,000 of which is towing at 25000 pounds all up, lots of backroads and mountains in that towing. RV traveler full time. It is that new Italian steel.
Lack of oil knowledge I see. It's a problem with DPF generation diesels because 15w-40 has higher ZDDP that cloggs DPF systems with metallic oxide ash. Problem#1 On problem#2 . (15-40) the 5w-40 is better oil. Especially synthetics. when cold it's 5w and then 40w when hot. Flow protects, NOT pressure which is a result of restricted oil flow. People are incredibly ignorant about oil.
Got a 22 3500 SRW w/a standard Cummins & 68RFE. Just hit 10K. No issues so far, & hauls my Lance truck camper with ease. Respectable fuel mileage too. However, I'd be curious to know if Chrysler/Stelantis resorted to using 2nd rate parts from alternate vendors due to "supply chain issues". Maybe bad quality control would explain some of the recalls, etc.
I have a 2013 big horn just installed an idash super gauge and pedal monster. Looking to change air intake,air box and filter, exhaust. 100% emissions complete. There shouldn’t be any issues for Dodge Ram to invest in the banks after market technology to make sure this vehicles stop causing catastrophic damage.
Just stumbled across this video. Not a diesel truck owner but considered the GM/GMC 3.0 for my use. Sucks to see a 60+ k vehicle go south within jn a year and GREAT documentation too since you own more then one of the same engine truck. Could see a class actiin suite against dodge for some people don't even drive 20k a year.
I've heard recently that there is carbon building in behind the piston rings causing issues, Caused by the emission system. Not sure if this would be the problem with this truck.
Ah I heard Cam and I instantly knew what you were talking about about. The engines are eating the cam. And I think it come down to the new hydraulic roller lifter. And it the same problem newer gas engines are having. The rollers are wearing out destroying the engine in the process.. there’s a problem with the new valve systems and they keep making things worse
8,000 or 10,000 miles between oil changes is Babying the truck ? 5,000 miles is over my change interval on Full Synthetic & I do my own but its my personal vehicle.
Thank goodness I'm a 7.3 man I can do 80 miles an hour for 12 hours straight zero issues zero concerns I change my oil every 2,500 miles or less rotilla I haven't I have an 03 it runs perfect zero issues for a decade you got a 96 as well runs perfect
That does not sound good… have you gotten a ‘22 with a replaced engine back from the shop yet? Do they do a tear down and see what went wrong or just chalk it up to everything being disposable?
Hello Paul, thanks for the information. I don't know if I missed this in any of your videos on your fleet of 22's, but have you compared build dates with some of the failures you are seeing? I've heard that 2H 2022's are seeing a significant increase in failures, along with the Aisin transmissions. Keep the updates coming!!!
I have a 19 ho with aisin and it runs good. I want to know tue defected ones are bieng made from. Factoyr wise. Thats where the problems are coming from. Mine was made in mexico says on the door. Runs strong. So check yalls manufacture location. That could be the issue
Thanks for sharing your experience with these trucks. My whole buisness depends on my 22 2500 and since my 2011 3500 6 speed never had one engine issue after 250.000 I decided to stick with RAM. My 22 was purchased with all the symptoms your explaining. 60,000 and Dodge has had it for a month. Please if you could what are some things I need to ask once I bring it back home? I'm worried that I made a bad investment or once they fix it it should be reliable again? Thanks
I just took mine in for some recalls and told them it had a tic/knocking sound. They looked at it and said it will need the pushrods and rockers replaced
@timhawk4383 yes thankfully but that too was a hassle. They had the truck for months so had to switch out renrltal trucks often couple times getting ones without trailer hitch. I actually just got mine back after second trip to dealer after timming cover leak.
They're only going to get worse as the years go up. EPA doesn't want any more diesel pickups on the road and conspiring with the automakers for years now. Another example of government and big corporations against hard working people
Just got my 2022 2500 out the shop yesterday for a full DEF filter with no warning. Dealer is waiting on a recall DEF sensor along with 2 other recalls but they cant get the parts. After leaving the dealer yesterday my truck did a regeneration with another regen this morning. No dealer can tell me the true process of what to do when my truck starts a regeneration; as of yesterday my truck said regeneration in progress continue driving. Now it just says regeneration in progress, not continue driving. I dont know.
Don't emission changes go into affect January 1. So a '22 built, lets say 10/31/21, will actually have a '21 emission certification package. Not sure if any changes were mandated for 01/01/2022. Remember this back in 2004. The pre 01/01/2004 trucks did not have a catalytic converter. Trucks built 01/01/2004 and later had a cat. The trucks with the cat converter always had a lot more soot in the oil.
Depends..... If Cummins supplied them with excess '21 engines, then the 21 emissions pkg. goes in and if Cummins supplied them with '22 engines early, then they will go in, with '22 emissions, on a 2021 frame.
The after treatment codes are a result of the internal engine failure. When whatever is failing in the valvetrain gets bad enough to start affecting combustion efficiency the engine begins producing excess soot. The after treatment system can only process so much soot before it becomes a problem that begins overloading the DPF and then you start seeing the faults and possibly being asked to run a parked regen. This seems to be an oiling issue. You should post the repair description from the other trucks you have that failed and show us the parts list that were replaced. Hope they get this figured out, there's not a good option for a diesel pickup if you can't rely on Cummins anymore
It's got alot to do with tuning the regen is not getting the engine clean the sensors get dirty and cause false readings it's not a bad engine but the emissions system is just a terrible redesign gm and ford have had a ton of these problems going to direct injection carbon builds up really fast causing problems that are terrible
The regeneration doesn't clean anything in the engine. It only burns soot in the DPF into ash which still needs to be blown out of the filter periodically using the FSX cleaning machine. The soot accumulation in the DPF is a result of an engine issue but after soot begins restricting flow in the DPF it will effect engine performance. Until you find the root cause of the excess soot production this problem will reoccur
If I was to bet on the source of the issue I would be suspicious of an EGR issue ie: stuck open egr valve or a possible CAC/ boost leak, or possibly a turbo issue. Wasn't something about valvetrain issues mentioned in the video? If you have any sort of valvetrain failure, that would be the popping back in the air cleaner that they are hearing, it would definitely increase soot do to incomplete combustion
Hemi engine builders have had a problem like this when pushing more power like putting blowers on them. They have found that the oil journals weren't allowing enough oil up the push rod and wiping out the roller tappits and the rockers. I'm not familiar with the Mopar moters and there oiling system however one engine builder said his solution was he drilled out the oil ports in the tappits and that stopped his engines from gernaiding the valve train.
Did the oil pump manufacture change from 21 to 22? Sounds like lifters and rod end are going away on ya. What's the oil pressure like from the 21 to 22 truck?
Have owned Dodge/Ram in the past. Currently have a 2016 cummins. Will never buy another one. Done with Ram....done with Cummins. Glad I still have a 93 first gen.
Wow. Seems like quality control on everything has taken a nose dive post covid. Ram better figure this out fast, the Cummins name is the only thing that keeps people buying HD trucks from them
Sounds like the valves are stretching (tuliping?) Which would explain the compression coming out on start up. Start checking valve lash at least intake,,, if its constant skrinking,,, valve is getting longer
I have a 2022 5500. Ive experienced the same codes. Dealer found a blown turbo at 70k allowing too much oil into the dpf. It has had a rough cold start since new.
i have a 21 HO long bed crew cab dually that sputters for a few minutes warm or hot start, still runs runs great once you start to drive. Have you seen this
I have a 2014 Ram 2500 HD 4x4 crew cab, 8' box with a 6.4 gas motor. They've already put 2 new motors in under warranty and going to put a 3rd new one in. Same problem with all 3 of the motors. Cam and cam bearings going out filling the motor with metal bits. When it's cold, it sounds like rocks in a can being shaken.
I’ve got a 22 2500 and it sucks down def and fuel like it’s going out of style. Guys with the 19-21 trucks we’re getting impressive fuel eco but even empty I’ve got a lot to be desired. My 22 is not put together well either. I ordered a 23 HO 3500 and I’m starting to wonder if that was a good idea seeing the issues with your 22’s and the lack it quality with my 22
Your 22 left the factory with a DEF sensor missing. A lot of them did. The ecu is programmed to max dose DEF fluid. Go to the dealer and ask if the sensor shortage has been resolved and ask for it to be installed and ecu updated. Or wait for a tune to become available and delete that useless shit
EVERYTHING WORD FOR WORD YOU SAID HAPPENED TO MY 2021 Ram 2500 Diesel Cummins!!!!! WORD FOR WORD like you wrote the script for my truck breaking. Then my Hydraulic lifter broke in cylinder 1 and wedged itself sideways.
Paul ever consider trying oil bypass filter that filters oil to 2 microns since your thinking the EGR is staying open more dumping more soot in the engine. Might help.
I'm not a fan of seafoam at all but he should do an experiment with 2 trucks, before every oil change dump a bottle of seafoam in to see if that changes how often he has issues with those 2
I'm sorry seafoam doesn't do much of anything. Amsoil engine flush will do way more to loosening coked soot because it thins out the oil helping to flush oil galleys and hydraulic lifters for 15 minutes before changing the oil. But if the cam is delaminating nothing can prevent failure with that then valve train pulverizes itself or lifter plugging because the oil port is to small in the lifter and it never expands again pulverizing the valve train. The lifter issue is possibly preventable with oil bypass filtration to 2 microns removing all soot greater than 2 micron size. Ergo lifters oil ports stay clear and don't clog. Then if it still happens you now it's the cam.
Curious if you have gone through your dealer and tried to create a case with Ram / Stellantis? It’s great to have the videos here to warn your fellow consumers, but ultimately any company that has any level of product support should be interested in what you are experiencing
Hear it plain as day and I’m deaf. I’m currently looking for used low mileage 2500, wonder if it’s affecting the SO motor? I’ve been seeing lots of people complaining about 22 DEF usage as well, I won’t be looking at 22s anymore 👎🏻.
Paul love your channel. I’ve been watching you for couple years now. I live near Calgary Alberta, i ordered a truck in may of 21 and received a 22 3500 limited srw long bed in November 21. Two months later my dealer informed me that I would be receiving a recall notice for the upgrade to activate the emissions system. I have never received anything yet and my dpf has always stayed at 0%. Wondering if you have had any similar experiences with any of your trucks
@@i82luz I haven’t had any problems with my emissions and have 41k on it now. I’m fine the way it is so long as it’s not causing any harm to other components. I’m thinking this missing chip or whatever it is is maybe only for Canadian trucks
I have a 2014 ram 3500 6.7 dually and do hotshot class A. Just about every hotshot I talk to and the TV guys, they idle all night. I can guarantee you guys are idling. This is the reason why your emissions and your truck is crap. I have a small Honda generator with a small space heater that gives me heat in the winter and ac in the summer. I have never idled and have 600k and still going strong with no filter cleaning of any type on the dpf system.
My 2022 was regening every 200 miles. Egr cooler failed and destroyed the dpf. All was replaced. Still regenning every 200 miles. Had a sub 40 degree cold start the other day and it was knocking just like your video. I only have 30k on the truck. I dumped it last week. I’m not dealing with this crap.
Does this relate to the “typewriter tick” like fords have been having for a while? For those who don’t know the sound, it literally sounds like someone typing, thinking, typing a few more keys and so on. I have it after an oil change on my 21’ and when I ran a 100hp tune it didn’t go away. I got rid of those tunes after a couple thousand miles and I’m back to 0 level tuning…no more tick.
No comparison to a ford 6.7L. I personally have had both (current 22 f450), 18 f350, and rams before and lml dmax. Powerstroke is far superior hands down, my f450 takes a beating as well grossing 45k up 8-10% grades.
I work for a towing company and operate 10 Ram 5500 cummins..and 10 6.7 international and M2 freightliner haven't had any of this? New truck or 2 purchased every year. They are beaten daily towing excessive extended idle time.. only major problem we had was the Ram front driveshaft u-joint failing total destruction. Transfercase split in two. Witing harness, hole in floor and brake lines..65mph total unscheduled rapid destruction 😊
I have a theory. I think the push rods are too long. The cam wiping out with the lifters going as well would happen on 6.0s after the heads were decked. The head would be shaved a few thou and then the pushrod is reletively longer. To fix it the new part from ford on the push rods is shorter by a few thou to compensate for the cams and lifters wiping out. I doubt it’s an oil issues.
Well my 6.0 doesn’t take def but it does tend to have its issues I’ve had ficm go out I’ve had the y pipe explode and the boost reader thing break other than that solid for a truck that’s turned up to 450-500
I have a 2021 ram 2500 and it’s been back to the dealership twice for DPF Filter full. Both times dealership put a new dpf in, as I’m nearing 32k miles I asked the dealership what it will cost when it happens again when I’m without warranty. Around 9k they said.
My 21 has been back twice as well for the exact same thing. Worthless ass dealership didn't even pop the hood on mine much less replace the dpf. All they did was force a regen and turn the light off. The last time it was in they said they basically changed the parameters on the regen frequency allowance. So basically if I would get a check engine light because it regened 5 times in 500 miles, now it'll let it regen 8 times in 500 miles before the cel turns on, as an example. The truck started doing this at 11k and now has 14k.
Keep in mind, the fed warranty on the dpf is only good to 50,000. California & some others might be longer. I’d be pushing HARD for them to get a handle on why it’s filling so quick without proper regens.
I have several trucks also. Got a 22 ho in September. It is not the same truck at all. Regents almost non stop. Excessive fuel and def consumption. Ram says within spec. No help there
Do you think that the HO Cummins might be cured with an emissions delete kit Sir? I'd love to know what you found out with this issue on your '22's! Thanks!
Really makes me appreciate my 2003. It has no choked down emissions, it has no Def, it has no sorry automatic transmission.....it has no 80 grand price tag....it's lean and clean, simple and mean!
I’ve still got my 03 too. Had it since 05 has 172k on it now. It’s dirt simple compared to these new trucks
I have a first gen and had a 2006. Both extremely reliable trucks. Wish I had another '05-'06. My '90 first gen has 935,000 miles and would not be afraid to drive it across the US. Still performs great.
yep this is the same reason i keep my 2000 7.3 powerstroke
It's a dodge... Shit
@@Hollywoodhouse74 That would probably be more on some of their transmissions, the Cummins engines are pretty solid. The 6.7 is prone to more problems because of the emissions bullshit.
I had a big dealership tell me I did the right thing when I told them my truck lost all the emissions crap. This was back on a 2015 ram the service department told me majority of the issues with the trucks are emissions equipment problems then causing engine problems. I know it's frowned upon now but when you spend 65-85k on a truck it better last you a long time. Deleting the emissions is still the only safe way to go for longevity.
Don't forget nobody deletes a truck. Everyone I know hit a big pothole and everything just fell off 😋
Sucks the law tries to stop it. Looney toons nowdays
Unfortunately for him with running a business and having to deal with DOT, there’s no way for him to delete anything and get away with it.
Putting exaust gas in the intake makes ne sense to start with,puts soot ,carbon in oil quickly,bad on bearings.
I would love to see a tear down video of one of these 22’s having the problem.
at 17:39 we see the engine hours. 1830 idle, 1871 drive. That seems a bit unusual to me.
Not really suppose to idle these things🤣it’s gotta be their problem
It’s the core reason for their issue. A good OC interval on these trucks is 5,000mi. Considering half the time is spent idling, I’d half that again and make it every 2,500 miles.
Not to mention the fact that idling is horrible on these newer trucks. They run the EGR at idle and run sooty due to low combustion temps. This idling soots up the oil and clogs the DPF leading to more regen cycles.
I’m glad I found your videos because I’ve been planning to buy a 22 at the end of this year to get a deal but this scares me because I can’t be without my truck for months to get fixed
Only took five minutes to get to the point.. But thank you for the video.
I have a 21 3500. DPF was full and wouldn’t regen. just got it deleted and is running great.
how to del it
I don’t no why Cummins went to roller lifters they had no problems with tappits
I have a 19 with 99K miles on it and it’s doing the exact same thing. You can actually here a loss of compression as it misfires and it does it really bad upon first startup just like yours. It is hard to hear on video because I’ve posted several videos on the ol forums and everyone says oh it sounds fine lol. The dealer actually said it was fine too until I told them to start up the brand new one sitting right next to it and see if it does what ours are doing lol. Yeah it’s been in the shop torn down for a total of four months waiting on Chrysler to approve the new engine and they are fighting it every step of the way! The tech said it was the cam and lifters at first but they said upon further inspection after getting into the engine that the whole thing needs to be replaced which is exactly what I said from the beginning.
Geez
I’ve got a 2022 3500 HO srw and still don’t have a problem. My 2021 5500 has its grimlins that won’t go away but it’s not terrible either. “Electronic throttle control” light won’t ever go away
Thank you Paul for stepping up to the plate to explain what you know so far. I realize you have a business reputation and a repair shop to maintain and it's a fine line to walk to go public with what you've learned, I thank you. Many of us have the 2022 Ram/Cummings trucks but we've spent a fortune by purchasing them and we depend, absolutely depend on them to perform as Ram/Cummings said they would, so the stakes are high, a lot is on the line and Ram/Cummings had better respond or the Ram/Cummings Reputation is lost forever. Blessings Paul, again thank you from all of us Ram Owners, we appreciate your insight.
*cummins
@@BmxScuz 😂
@@samuelhatch8470 i really question if the people who pronounce it Cummings, even own a Cummins. It doesn’t even autocorrect to Cummings 🤷🏽♂️
@@BmxScuz i know it's pretty funny my brother. I've seen lots of that over the years. I'm glad i have a p-pumped 2002 Cummings 😂
Fuckin cummins* pinecone
If I was owner of 22 and hearing what you are saying, I would be trading my truck tomorrow for something else. Fortunate to have 4th gen
That's sad I got a 20* 262k miles still the cp4 never heard a nock or seen the check engine come on. About to get the cp3 swap not to cross my fingers anymore at start-up
Nothing wrong with the trucks, his drivers are just too stupid to be driving diesels. Anyone who knows shit about trucks knows any emissions compliant diesel should not idle much. This twit has 1800 idle hrs 😂 a truck shouldn’t have 1800 idle hrs after 400,000 miles, let alone 1/4 of that.
I’ve got a 22, it has 200,000 miles on it, it has 215 hours at idle.
1000% this guys “drivers” are to blame
Had a 21 with over 300,000 km on it other then oil changes tires and brakes never had a single problem on it traded it in for a late 2022 and no problems yet but will definitely be keeping a eye out for any warning signs
any cp3 click after running for long distance?
What kind of oil and what are the intervals?
Thanks for these videos Paul. I decided to leave my 22 at the dealer and buying another 17 instead.
You need to buy a Mack 😜
Go get some new fords
All this boils down to the excessive emissions requirements. Before emission got out of hand it was typical see 500k or so before any major issues outside the trans which always fails.
My argument has been. The air may be cleaner out the tail pipe, but the the vehicles life is much shorter and that just moves the emissions to the manufacturing and disposal process. I think if anything it makes the air dirtier when taking all this into account. Just most of it is move over seas.
I have to agree with you 100%.
You're totally right. For a modern diesel to make it to 150k you're doing pretty good. 20 years ago that was just breaking it in. It was not uncommon at all to see them with 300k miles still driving up and down the road every day. Now that's like the exception to the rule. They're throwaway trucks. Huge liability to own one past warranty. Don't forget also about all the hundreds of gallons of wasted fuel from regens and DEF and plastic containers/cardboard boxes, as well as the rare metals used in the overly elaborate exhaust system. And the so called "clean" air that comes out the exhaust will choke you out. Diesel fumes might stink but that ammonia is just nasty. It has made them unaffordable, impractical and unreliable. What a shame.
@@fewworddotrick I can see that with school buses in my local district. The older IC CEs with the Maxxforce DT and dt466e’s run like a clock and rarely have problems that keep them in the shop for long periods of time. The Cummins ones (even including the Thomas C2’s) have many issues that keep them in the shop for a long time and the 2022 ones are even worse. Those ones have subs run for their route for a long time. Not to mention that the Cummins engines generally feel weaker on acceleration than the Maxxforce DT’s and other older diesel engines. Too many Emissions components ruined diesels.
Love your channel. What diagnostic tracker do you use in your fleet?
I have been saying this for years. I have a ‘97 powerstroke with 385k, I have owned it for 23 years and it is still reliable as heck. I have a ‘10 Cummins dually g56 and it is definitely deleted. I hope to get as many miles out of it as I have my old ford.
Is this a problem with the high output engines ? Or all ? Thanks
Everything you have mentioned is worn out due to metallurgy or oil cannot lubricate. You should try different brand and compare results. I have mentioned in my previous post about Schaefer dealer having Cummins engines damaged due to the Schaefer oil. He stopped using Schaefer oil and switched back to Mobil 1, he has a fleet of trucks. He no longer sells it too.
Valid point since he uses Schaefer’s on everything. I’ve used Schaefer’s on my old 4th gen and now 22 without any signs but it’s worth trying to do some research on.
Prime example of why Rotella T-6 is the best
I agree with @repairvehicle. There is something happening on the service side. What oil are you running in your fleet?
His fleet does over 1 million miles a YEAR. I think he has figured out how to maintain them.
@@seagullsbtn he hasn’t figured out how to do it with 10w-30 oil. He has been using 5w-40 on 4th gens
Yes, please get permission to film inside the shop. We’d love to see the tear down and failed parts
I'm 65 y o, drove used cars all my life, ordered my first ever new vehicle, a 2022 3500 HO and now this! Mine built in May. Got a build date range on your problem trucks? Vid in the dealership would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Good thing we got a '21!! Wonder if any ram engineers are watching this channel yet. Should be.
Hard to say, but personally I would lean towards either an oil issue or an oil supply issue….
Cummins must think by the time an average person hits 100k miles we will be all electric and the warranty is out. Things are ridiculous with these 22s. Keep putting them on blast. Most people can't afford to have a 100k truck let alone one that keeps blowing up. Ridiculous
I have a flawless 2018. Don't want a 19, 20 (cp4) not sure about 21's and now no 2022. What the heck is going on with RAM? Thank you sir.
engines are built at cummins....someone needs to call Cummins and ask them!! now, the emissions system on the exhaust pipe is made by stellantis , that could be a problem.......
Traded my 22 Laramie in on 23 Sierra at4 couldn't be happier ...transmission shifts drove me crazy in the ram
My friend made the mistake of buying a GMC. 6.2 litre engine. 77k truck. And the motor knocks and the lifters tick. I'm guessing it'll be just like his 18 and start having electrical problems in the dash and door as well.
Do you see any signs of problems in your oil analysis? I imagine youd start seeing elevated wear metals as the valve train begins to fail.
My company has had approximately 500 Ram pickups in our fleet but due to the major issues they are now in the process of replacing them with Fords and Chevys. My company truck is a 2020 and has 112 highway miles on and other than the turbo actuator having to be replaced it has been a great truck.
I have heard that a little nut on the back side of the cold-start heating grid in the intake can come loose and fall into the #6 cylinder, BANKS sells their RAM AIR HORN that also replaces
this part and prevents it. Seems to be a big issue? I wonder if this is the problem?
For the DPF issue, I was told to only use the more expensive Platinum?
The grid heater bolt becomes an issue when the relay stays on and enough amperage runs thru the bolt. Makes it brittle and it falls off. My 08 had the original grid heater installed and never had an issue falling into the engine. I recently took it out since I got a good deal on a grid heater delete plate. You have less then a 1% chance of that bolt failing
Hoax by banks to scare people into buying his garbage
@@repairvehicle You clearly haven't seen the video of the engine tear town with the nut that broke off, fell into the #6 piston and was imbedded into it needing and entire engine block replacement. It might be rare, but it has happened. Besides, his tests showing the increased airflow is self explanatory and obvious. The manufacturers are more concerned with emissions regulations than performance.
@@RobertMoseley , how much horsepower did engine gain with banks garbage air horn? You not going to find numbers because increase in flow only work high horsepower applications. With factory horsepower and increased flow actually lowers horsepower output.
@@repairvehicle You seem butthurt. Did you buy and install one and test it yourself?
My ‘22 just went into the dealership for internal engine issues. I have the Cummins HO engine. They aren’t aware of the issue yet, but to me it sounds like lifters. My truck only has 10,000 miles on it. I don’t use my truck for work so having it down doesn’t cost me anything. I am disappointed in Cummins for the significant drop in quality. As long as Ram and Cummins own up to the problems and fix them I can’t be too mad, but man am I disappointed.
I only have 2021 2500 Cummins with only 15,600 miles hardly run truck and a few days ago it wouldn’t start and now engine light is flashing and stays on!!
Really would like to see more detail on this because I felt like I had been missing something with all the vague allusions to a catastrophic failure that was never explained
Sometimes I wonder how people with this scrambled of a brain are successful...... I think he did at least 3 720s talking in circles.
The lifters are made of Chinesium and the lightweight oil is causing these failures. Some dealers are saying up to 6 months backordered on the engines.
There is also the catastrophic failures of the Aisin transmissions for the 22s
@@kyles234 wtf. I think I'll stick to my.4th gen and minivan tranny
@@wizard_of_poz4413 good luck. 68s are garbage
@@kyles234 you say that but we were going on a 4 wheeling trip to west va doing a little "spirited" driving through the hills with our trailers on the way to the site. And my 2500 68rfe was staying pretty comfortable the whole time at 170.
All this while the two Allison guys in the other trucks had to stop every 15mins or so because one was at 210 and the other was getting above 235.
Hey Paul thanks for the update on truck 22. That water in the fuel light comes on every time you're in the rain or wet conditions and then it turns itself back off tell the next damp area you get into LOL. Man I miss that truck anyway have a blessed day. And please keep us updated on what happens with her👍
2019 and newer models do not take 15/40 oil “15W-40 grade oil CAN NOT be used in any 2019 model year or newer 6.7L equipped vehicles due to the new designed valve train of this engine. If this oil is used, it will cause deposits to form in the Hydraulic Valve Lash Adjusters leading
to undesirable noise, and/or engine damage.”
Plus 15-40 has higher ZDDP and will destroy the DPF with metallic oxide ash
I have a 2021 HO and I’m praying I don’t have any issues with any of this crap. So far it’s been great. Thanks Paul.
It’s a time to start doing cancer screening at early stage’s, it’s called oil analysis.
@david brown. I also have a 21'and it's been great. Don't mind this repair vehicle guy. He's just jacking his jaws. Paul knows what he's talking about.
@@Youngmechanical Something weird is going on for sure. Not sure if Cummins used sub par parts or if what a lot of people are saying in here about oil issues is the problem. I personally just run Amsoil 5w40 and change my oil every 8k no matter what. So far so good. I also run Hotshot EDT on each fill up and so far it’s been a perfect truck. I did change fuel filters at 10k and will again but this time at 12k. The filters at 10k were not that bad at all. Thanks for the reply.
I have a 21 as well. Awesome truck. 64k, no issues. Seems like the 21 is the best of the 5th gens so far.
Cummins didn’t use sub par parts. Mopar did. They had Cummins add hydraulic lifters to the 19+s. You can’t even buy them from Cummins, it’s a mopar only part. All the 6.7s Cummins makes for other manufacturers still use the solid tappets and adjustable rockers, as all ISBs have used since their inception in 1998. Now we’re seeing cam and lifter failures in 6.7s, like the hemis have had since 09. This failure was virtually unheard of in a 5.9 or 6.7. Hydraulic lifters was a solution for a non existent problem.
I have seen engine builders complaining about premature lifter failures eating up the cam due to soft metal. Sighting supply chain issues causing cam manufacturers to source lifters from China. Wither it is a domestic or foreign the problem is improper procedures for the heat treatment process. I wonder if this applies to this problem, cam, lifters, rocker arms, and pushrods.
So glad I ran into this video. Was planning on picking up a 2022 myself. Not a chance now. Thanks
So is the dpf completely clogging off to the point where it’s not letting much pass through the exhaust and making the compression exit through the intake? I’m trying to figure out what goes wrong based your videos. Thanks 🙏 Paul. Great 👍🏼 info sir.
Sounds like main bearings I wonder if they have a different oil pump in the new 22 engines.
Are these problems caused by the emissions on the engine?
Yes
I will stick my 12 with 378,000 plus no def. Part of the problem with these newer high torque engines they are just pushing too much torque. But most of hauling is with an 05 Ford 6.0 and I never pull a hill like I need to get to the top first. I hold my egt and my ect temps down and keep my fuel pressure up. But I don`t know anybody down that has not had problems with the 18 and newer Rams. The only thing I worry about with my 12 Dodge is I check the grid heater bolt on a regular basis. But all cummins have there problems. We have 2 older 5.9s that have been killed my the dowel pin coming out and breaking the cam shaft.
Torque is not an issue at all with these lol they are incredibly derated
I have a 22 dually 4:10 high output. The first few trips were fine. Then for some reason the exhaust was working 1/2 as strong as it was, not worried it has big breaks. I was going through the Ozarks down a big hill with the exhaust brake on and the curse had about 20k pounds behind me. The truck was picking up speed at about 74mph it down shifted and a second later it down shifted agan. Wound that tack around screamed the engine scared the hell out of me. I stomped on the accelerator to force an up shift, it shifted with a bang. It does this all the time now, It didn't do this on the first 2 trips. Told the dealers, they said they can't make it do it. So I don't think they don't believe me. Told them you would need a big load and hill. I am so sorry I got rid of my 15. The HO engine is supposed to have quite a few upgraded parts, what are the odds of having problem you are talking about?
Now here's the $64 question. How much did it cost to get the engine repaired?
I bought my 2007.5 at 18months old and 67000 miles. The DPF was totally clogged with ash. You cannot burn ash in the DPF. Of course I drove really fast down a horrible road and some stuff fell out. Hole saw took care of the ash problem. Oil change at 3000 15W-40. I don't care what they would say, no way I would run 5W in a diesel. Truck runs better than new still at 16 years old, 240000 miles 74,000 of which is towing at 25000 pounds all up, lots of backroads and mountains in that towing. RV traveler full time.
It is that new Italian steel.
Lack of oil knowledge I see. It's a problem with DPF generation diesels because 15w-40 has higher ZDDP that cloggs DPF systems with metallic oxide ash. Problem#1
On problem#2 . (15-40) the 5w-40 is better oil. Especially synthetics.
when cold it's 5w and then 40w when hot.
Flow protects, NOT pressure which is a result of restricted oil flow. People are incredibly ignorant about oil.
Got a 22 3500 SRW w/a standard Cummins & 68RFE. Just hit 10K. No issues so far, & hauls my Lance truck camper with ease. Respectable fuel mileage too. However, I'd be curious to know if Chrysler/Stelantis resorted to using 2nd rate parts from alternate vendors due to "supply chain issues". Maybe bad quality control would explain some of the recalls, etc.
My roommates 22 just developed a really bad knock pulling a horse trailer through a mountain pass. 11k miles. Its now sitting at the dealer 😬
I have a 2013 big horn just installed an idash super gauge and pedal monster. Looking to change air intake,air box and filter, exhaust. 100% emissions complete. There shouldn’t be any issues for Dodge Ram to invest in the banks after market technology to make sure this vehicles stop causing catastrophic damage.
Just stumbled across this video. Not a diesel truck owner but considered the GM/GMC 3.0 for my use. Sucks to see a 60+ k vehicle go south within jn a year and GREAT documentation too since you own more then one of the same engine truck. Could see a class actiin suite against dodge for some people don't even drive 20k a year.
I got a 21 and it's making a loud knock in the bottom end somewhere. And Ally won't help me get out of this truck
I've heard recently that there is carbon building in behind the piston rings causing issues, Caused by the emission system. Not sure if this would be the problem with this truck.
Hey Paul, are you able to share the build sheet (window sticker) on one of your problem units?
It’s so strange that so many of these have had this problem! I wonder if other brands have had issues with this model year?
Ah I heard Cam and I instantly knew what you were talking about about. The engines are eating the cam. And I think it come down to the new hydraulic roller lifter. And it the same problem newer gas engines are having. The rollers are wearing out destroying the engine in the process.. there’s a problem with the new valve systems and they keep making things worse
8,000 or 10,000 miles between oil changes is Babying the truck ? 5,000 miles is over my change interval on Full Synthetic & I do my own but its my personal vehicle.
Lol 100% accurate
I agree, the MFG say oil change at 15k miles. That is a bit to insane for me 5k sounds good.
So doesn’t the 19-23 have the same engine besides the CP4?
Yes all same engine, in fact more perfections in early 19 blocks, but they all have cp3 now. Recalls
Thank goodness I'm a 7.3 man I can do 80 miles an hour for 12 hours straight zero issues zero concerns I change my oil every 2,500 miles or less rotilla I haven't I have an 03 it runs perfect zero issues for a decade you got a 96 as well runs perfect
any Aisin failures from the late 2022 models....that's a problem also with snap ring failures.
That does not sound good… have you gotten a ‘22 with a replaced engine back from the shop yet? Do they do a tear down and see what went wrong or just chalk it up to everything being disposable?
Sorry to hear about the trouble with your Ram. I got the 2019 Ram 3500 with 205k. Believe deleting an intake plate could’ve help?
Hello Paul, thanks for the information. I don't know if I missed this in any of your videos on your fleet of 22's, but have you compared build dates with some of the failures you are seeing? I've heard that 2H 2022's are seeing a significant increase in failures, along with the Aisin transmissions. Keep the updates coming!!!
Its called junk dodge
I just bought one 3 days ago 2022 built in 2021 what month did they start having problems. What is H2? PAID $66500 38000 Miles( Limited.)
I have a 19 ho with aisin and it runs good. I want to know tue defected ones are bieng made from. Factoyr wise. Thats where the problems are coming from. Mine was made in mexico says on the door. Runs strong. So check yalls manufacture location. That could be the issue
I think it is just Assembled in Mexico. The emginens and tranny are built elsewhere.
Thanks for sharing your experience with these trucks. My whole buisness depends on my 22 2500 and since my 2011 3500 6 speed never had one engine issue after 250.000 I decided to stick with RAM. My 22 was purchased with all the symptoms your explaining. 60,000 and Dodge has had it for a month. Please if you could what are some things I need to ask once I bring it back home? I'm worried that I made a bad investment or once they fix it it should be reliable again? Thanks
I just took mine in for some recalls and told them it had a tic/knocking sound. They looked at it and said it will need the pushrods and rockers replaced
Does dealer or warranty cover a free loaner truck for you while it’s at the shop?
@timhawk4383 yes thankfully but that too was a hassle. They had the truck for months so had to switch out renrltal trucks often couple times getting ones without trailer hitch. I actually just got mine back after second trip to dealer after timming cover leak.
They're only going to get worse as the years go up. EPA doesn't want any more diesel pickups on the road and conspiring with the automakers for years now. Another example of government and big corporations against hard working people
Just got my 2022 2500 out the shop yesterday for a full DEF filter with no warning. Dealer is waiting on a recall DEF sensor along with 2 other recalls but they cant get the parts. After leaving the dealer yesterday my truck did a regeneration with another regen this morning. No dealer can tell me the true process of what to do when my truck starts a regeneration; as of yesterday my truck said regeneration in progress continue driving. Now it just says regeneration in progress, not continue driving. I dont know.
What kind of oil do you use and have you switched since these problems arises?
Don't emission changes go into affect January 1. So a '22 built, lets say 10/31/21, will actually have a '21 emission certification package. Not sure if any changes were mandated for 01/01/2022. Remember this back in 2004. The pre 01/01/2004 trucks did not have a catalytic converter. Trucks built 01/01/2004 and later had a cat. The trucks with the cat converter always had a lot more soot in the oil.
Depends..... If Cummins supplied them with excess '21 engines, then the 21 emissions pkg. goes in and if Cummins supplied them with '22 engines early, then they will go in, with '22 emissions, on a 2021 frame.
The after treatment codes are a result of the internal engine failure. When whatever is failing in the valvetrain gets bad enough to start affecting combustion efficiency the engine begins producing excess soot. The after treatment system can only process so much soot before it becomes a problem that begins overloading the DPF and then you start seeing the faults and possibly being asked to run a parked regen. This seems to be an oiling issue. You should post the repair description from the other trucks you have that failed and show us the parts list that were replaced. Hope they get this figured out, there's not a good option for a diesel pickup if you can't rely on Cummins anymore
Hit a pothole, lose certain parts...
It's got alot to do with tuning the regen is not getting the engine clean the sensors get dirty and cause false readings it's not a bad engine but the emissions system is just a terrible redesign gm and ford have had a ton of these problems going to direct injection carbon builds up really fast causing problems that are terrible
The regeneration doesn't clean anything in the engine. It only burns soot in the DPF into ash which still needs to be blown out of the filter periodically using the FSX cleaning machine. The soot accumulation in the DPF is a result of an engine issue but after soot begins restricting flow in the DPF it will effect engine performance. Until you find the root cause of the excess soot production this problem will reoccur
If I was to bet on the source of the issue I would be suspicious of an EGR issue ie: stuck open egr valve or a possible CAC/ boost leak, or possibly a turbo issue. Wasn't something about valvetrain issues mentioned in the video? If you have any sort of valvetrain failure, that would be the popping back in the air cleaner that they are hearing, it would definitely increase soot do to incomplete combustion
DOES DEALER OR WARRANTY COVER A LOANER TRUCK FOR YOU WHEN THE TRUCK IS AT THE SHOP!?
so would doing a delete stop this issue>?
How long can you drag something out. Just get to the point
Just vague accusations with no real evidence of an actual problem.
Hemi engine builders have had a problem like this when pushing more power like putting blowers on them. They have found that the oil journals weren't allowing enough oil up the push rod and wiping out the roller tappits and the rockers. I'm not familiar with the Mopar moters and there oiling system however one engine builder said his solution was he drilled out the oil ports in the tappits and that stopped his engines from gernaiding the valve train.
Did the oil pump manufacture change from 21 to 22? Sounds like lifters and rod end are going away on ya. What's the oil pressure like from the 21 to 22 truck?
Have owned Dodge/Ram in the past. Currently have a 2016 cummins. Will never buy another one. Done with Ram....done with Cummins. Glad I still have a 93 first gen.
Wow. Seems like quality control on everything has taken a nose dive post covid. Ram better figure this out fast, the Cummins name is the only thing that keeps people buying HD trucks from them
Covid created even more Chinese junk parts in vehicles
Sounds like the valves are stretching (tuliping?)
Which would explain the compression coming out on start up.
Start checking valve lash at least intake,,, if its constant skrinking,,, valve is getting longer
I have a 2022 5500. Ive experienced the same codes. Dealer found a blown turbo at 70k allowing too much oil into the dpf. It has had a rough cold start since new.
i have a 21 HO long bed crew cab dually that sputters for a few minutes warm or hot start, still runs runs great once you start to drive. Have you seen this
I have a 2014 Ram 2500 HD 4x4 crew cab, 8' box with a 6.4 gas motor. They've already put 2 new motors in under warranty and going to put a 3rd new one in. Same problem with all 3 of the motors. Cam and cam bearings going out filling the motor with metal bits. When it's cold, it sounds like rocks in a can being shaken.
I love my '14 too, I've had 2 4th gens and they're the best bang for the buck imo
2021s are the same. My daughters just went down at about 130,000 miles same problems same symptoms
I’ve got a 22 2500 and it sucks down def and fuel like it’s going out of style. Guys with the 19-21 trucks we’re getting impressive fuel eco but even empty I’ve got a lot to be desired. My 22 is not put together well either. I ordered a 23 HO 3500 and I’m starting to wonder if that was a good idea seeing the issues with your 22’s and the lack it quality with my 22
Your 22 left the factory with a DEF sensor missing. A lot of them did. The ecu is programmed to max dose DEF fluid. Go to the dealer and ask if the sensor shortage has been resolved and ask for it to be installed and ecu updated. Or wait for a tune to become available and delete that useless shit
@@bryandepiazzy8679 Interesting. I'm hoping my 23 shows up someday soon and I don't have to deal with this truck anymore anyway lol
Chinese junk parts have overwhelmed the automotive industry and crashed the quality in a huge way🎉
EVERYTHING WORD FOR WORD YOU SAID HAPPENED TO MY 2021 Ram 2500 Diesel Cummins!!!!! WORD FOR WORD like you wrote the script for my truck breaking. Then my Hydraulic lifter broke in cylinder 1 and wedged itself sideways.
Paul ever consider trying oil bypass filter that filters oil to 2 microns since your thinking the EGR is staying open more dumping more soot in the engine. Might help.
I'm not a fan of seafoam at all but he should do an experiment with 2 trucks, before every oil change dump a bottle of seafoam in to see if that changes how often he has issues with those 2
I'm sorry seafoam doesn't do much of anything. Amsoil engine flush will do way more to loosening coked soot because it thins out the oil helping to flush oil galleys and hydraulic lifters for 15 minutes before changing the oil. But if the cam is delaminating nothing can prevent failure with that then valve train pulverizes itself or lifter plugging because the oil port is to small in the lifter and it never expands again pulverizing the valve train. The lifter issue is possibly preventable with oil bypass filtration to 2 microns removing all soot greater than 2 micron size. Ergo lifters oil ports stay clear and don't clog. Then if it still happens you now it's the cam.
Is Cummins standing behind these and repairing them
2014 3500 good 6.7 are good or no
Curious if you have gone through your dealer and tried to create a case with Ram / Stellantis? It’s great to have the videos here to warn your fellow consumers, but ultimately any company that has any level of product support should be interested in what you are experiencing
They don't care. Tried several times for my pos 21 1500
@@tuffmccabe3097POS why?
Hear it plain as day and I’m deaf. I’m currently looking for used low mileage 2500, wonder if it’s affecting the SO motor? I’ve been seeing lots of people complaining about 22 DEF usage as well, I won’t be looking at 22s anymore 👎🏻.
Paul love your channel. I’ve been watching you for couple years now. I live near Calgary Alberta, i ordered a truck in may of 21 and received a 22 3500 limited srw long bed in November 21. Two months later my dealer informed me that I would be receiving a recall notice for the upgrade to activate the emissions system. I have never received anything yet and my dpf has always stayed at 0%. Wondering if you have had any similar experiences with any of your trucks
I got told the same thing too with my 22 3500 longhorn..and still nothing done. In Dawson Creek BC
@@i82luz I haven’t had any problems with my emissions and have 41k on it now. I’m fine the way it is so long as it’s not causing any harm to other components. I’m thinking this missing chip or whatever it is is maybe only for Canadian trucks
I have a 2014 ram 3500 6.7 dually and do hotshot class A. Just about every hotshot I talk to and the TV guys, they idle all night. I can guarantee you guys are idling. This is the reason why your emissions and your truck is crap.
I have a small Honda generator with a small space heater that gives me heat in the winter and ac in the summer. I have never idled and have 600k and still going strong with no filter cleaning of any type on the dpf system.
I meant it isn't deleted
I hope your right.
Only thing I could think of thats different with the 22s is that final sensor missing off the dpf. Very strange whats going on.
My 21 has had dpf filter replaced twice under warranty about to hit 32k miles.
@@quickdrawmcgraw3784 Delete it with EFI live and let it live to a million
I have 9 of those 22s and not one has an issue I use mobile one oil all around 70-150k miles
10w30 or 5w40?
@@pddieselpower 10w30 with 200 ml of lucas oil Stabilizer
High output or Standard?
@@tylerrysdam standard
My 2022 was regening every 200 miles. Egr cooler failed and destroyed the dpf. All was replaced. Still regenning every 200 miles. Had a sub 40 degree cold start the other day and it was knocking just like your video. I only have 30k on the truck. I dumped it last week. I’m not dealing with this crap.
Does this relate to the “typewriter tick” like fords have been having for a while? For those who don’t know the sound, it literally sounds like someone typing, thinking, typing a few more keys and so on. I have it after an oil change on my 21’ and when I ran a 100hp tune it didn’t go away. I got rid of those tunes after a couple thousand miles and I’m back to 0 level tuning…no more tick.
No comparison to a ford 6.7L. I personally have had both (current 22 f450), 18 f350, and rams before and lml dmax. Powerstroke is far superior hands down, my f450 takes a beating as well grossing 45k up 8-10% grades.
@@krice24 do fords not have a typewriter tick? Ford had, long before ram, hydraulic lifters?
I work for a towing company and operate 10 Ram 5500 cummins..and 10 6.7 international and M2 freightliner haven't had any of this? New truck or 2 purchased every year. They are beaten daily towing excessive extended idle time.. only major problem we had was the Ram front driveshaft u-joint failing total destruction. Transfercase split in two. Witing harness, hole in floor and brake lines..65mph total unscheduled rapid destruction 😊
I have a theory. I think the push rods are too long. The cam wiping out with the lifters going as well would happen on 6.0s after the heads were decked. The head would be shaved a few thou and then the pushrod is reletively longer. To fix it the new part from ford on the push rods is shorter by a few thou to compensate for the cams and lifters wiping out. I doubt it’s an oil issues.
Definitely not that at all. 😂
Sounds like a 3500 HO issue. No issues with my 22 2500.
Well my 6.0 doesn’t take def but it does tend to have its issues I’ve had ficm go out I’ve had the y pipe explode and the boost reader thing break other than that solid for a truck that’s turned up to 450-500
I have a 2021 ram 2500 and it’s been back to the dealership twice for DPF Filter full. Both times dealership put a new dpf in, as I’m nearing 32k miles I asked the dealership what it will cost when it happens again when I’m without warranty. Around 9k they said.
My 21 has been back twice as well for the exact same thing. Worthless ass dealership didn't even pop the hood on mine much less replace the dpf. All they did was force a regen and turn the light off. The last time it was in they said they basically changed the parameters on the regen frequency allowance. So basically if I would get a check engine light because it regened 5 times in 500 miles, now it'll let it regen 8 times in 500 miles before the cel turns on, as an example. The truck started doing this at 11k and now has 14k.
Keep in mind, the fed warranty on the dpf is only good to 50,000. California & some others might be longer. I’d be pushing HARD for them to get a handle on why it’s filling so quick without proper regens.
If you're running 15-40 oil that's why the DPF keeps clogging. Metal oxide ash from ZDDP
@@100pyatt I'm running 5-40 schaeffers OTR
Ive just purchased a new 22 3500 now im worried. What can i do to prevent it from happening
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I have several trucks also. Got a 22 ho in September. It is not the same truck at all. Regents almost non stop. Excessive fuel and def consumption. Ram says within spec. No help there
So glad to have a 2021 and a 2005.
Paul, what engine oil do you run and 5w40 or 10w30?
Probably shitty regular old 15w-40
The question is, if we know it’s coming, how do we prevent it from happening? I only have 20,000 mi. on mine as I drive my 2001 as my daily driver
Do you think that the HO Cummins might be cured with an emissions delete kit Sir? I'd love to know what you found out with this issue on your '22's! Thanks!
Are you running any oils additives?