Cummins Or Duramax! Which One Is Better?
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My son is a diesel mechanic, he said the Cummins is the easiest to work on, the GM is the most comfortable to drive, but the Ford supports him with repairs and paid for his daughter’s nursing school education. Lol
From what I've seen, it doesn't matter what you buy , if you take care of it 9 times out of 10 it'll take care of you.
Haaaa. Sure
Spot on
@@alana2562 huh?
@@alana2562 every single auto manufacturer puts faulty cars on the road knowingly. Lol. My word dude
Except a 6.0 those will leave you stranded
I’m a Cummins guy but Duramax is a very close second.
Both are great power plants. But I prefer the simplicity of the inline 6.
I bought a 2007 Silverado 2500 HD Classic Crew Cab with the LBZ engine. I bought the truck new. It now has 340,000 miles and still runs like new. I'm very happy with it.
Wow, this might be the first comment section I’ve found that doesn’t have a bunch of aggressive toxic people in it when discussing truck brands
I agree with you TexanErection but, do you know why? Bc FACTS don’t lie fords weren’t even a factor. I’m an all Chevy guy but I also have a thing for them old Dodge trucks they are great vehicles..
@@louisbaladez7487 said like a champ!
I am agressive.
Spoke only truth
I love your fuckin name bro😂🤣 unique to say the least. And i agree with you
They build a shop behind every dealership for one reason,
THEY ALL BREAK.
well you cant upsell oil changes and maintenance without a shop either its just another money maker
Who needs a shop when you have youtube
All machines break at some point. Depends on many variables.
@@riverrat2350 Nailed it!
Facts
I'll add this little fact. I managed a 110 vehicle fleet before I retired that was comprised of the "Big 3". Diesel engines aside, by far the brand we had the most problems with was GM. The most common problems? Engine wiring harnesses, exhausts breaking and falling off the 2500 HD 4x4's (literally) and breaking IFS components. And what's worse, we had a constant battle with GM trying to get them to warranty their products. Their ultimate fix for two dozen exhaust systems was to weld them back together and reinstall. Why did we have so many GM's? They were the low bidder. Nearly all the issues we had with Dodge Rams and vans were transmission related. I understand this video is about diesel engine comparisons, but you also have to consider the overall package that they are installed in. There is one component that is a total deal breaker for me when it comes to 3/4 ton pickups, and that's the independent front suspension and torsion bars on the GM's.
What was the weak places on the Fords?
So in the end your opinion was very much biased😂😂😂
Sounds like your gf left you for a gm duramax owner bro
Well said,
@@trailerwithyardwasteonit7188 How do you gather that from his experiences managing a fleet? Low wattage
I’ve owned 6 Cummins trucks and have never had engine problems all of them over 400000 miles each . All of them hotshot trucks so they pulled always
What about the transmission though?
@@iitzDiRTY I'm driving my fourth Ram and fortunately I've never had any transmission problems. And to attest to what @Karl Kutzer said, here in the desert southwest there are many hotshot trucks. My best estimate would be 70% are Rams, followed by Ford and then GM.
@@miguelitomigra543 I’m glad the rams are holding up well for you guys & giving you zero issues. I personally will never touch Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep products but to each his own. I own a Peterbilt 579 so I don’t need to haul heavy with my pickup nor would I want to. I wouldn’t trust pulling heavy loads without the assistance of a jake brake especially not on steep downgrades. Trying to keep that trailer with a heavy load from pushing me down a grade with only hydraulic brakes to try & hold it gives me anxiety just thinking about it. I’m glad you guys are getting good use out of your trucks & they are working well for you, be safe out there fellas, cheers.
Question: why are you on your fourth RAM? What’s wrong with the other three? My 95 ford with a power stroke 7.3 that I bought used, is still in mint condition.
@@iitzDiRTY well there you have a point. That is the weak spot in the ram until 2015 I bought a 3500 4x4 crew cab long bed drw. With the aiasin 6 spd it’s the first automatic I’ve owned as of right now it has 332442 miles on it still running good
Before they were FIAT CHRYSLERS
I am a die hard cummins fan. But I will never unstand why gm got away from the Allison transmission to me thats what made the duramax
I agree
@@shemwhitehead9517 it’s no longer made by Allison. It’s an Allison design made by GM so they can put the nameplate on their trucks but the manufacture has gone in house.
Shem Whitehead plus the tuning in the Allison transmissions are done by GM. If you want true Allison tuning you have to get in the 4500 and up trucks.
@@FlatPlaneCranky that is true but don't forget allison and GM was making them together in house so it's up in the air if its any different in the GM ones in the 3500 with the Allison stamp on it i don't know but they did it like that in the 2020 trucks that's why im happy mines a 2019 3500 with the real allison in it lol
To me the best trans out there now is the Aisin!
I've always said, the perfect truck is a Ford with a Cummins mated to an Allison.
F650 with a cummins and a 3000 allison
I’ve been saying this forever! Call it my dream truck... It’s a mut! Lol Only thing to add would be the Dodge entertainment system!
@@phillipherrington7191 big facts
I disagree on the Allison part. It's like a 48re. Only good if it's built. Stock trans will self destruct with minimal power added
@@otakufenris517 well if you were to put a mutt like this together, I'm pretty sure everything would be built. Why put forth the money and effort on all stock parts?
I have a 2000 5.9 Cummins with 200 miles of wonderful service. It never let me down towing a 37 ft. fifth wheel camper, all over the U SA, and Canada and Alaska. We lived in the camper for ten years, and never worried. I first bought a new Chevrolet, which lasted just a bit over one year till it failed to the point it didn't have enough power to tow my trailor up a slight hill.
200 miles. That’s about right for a dodge.
I like how open and unbiased the information. Being a mechanic myself, the INFO was spot on. Also, it was quite educational for me. Some of the INFO & knew, some I didn't which means the video was quite educational, especially on the older model engines...THANKS!!!
I'm a heavy hauler so yes I stand by my 2015 6.7 cummins with a big smile on my face. NO problems after 200,000 miles and my buddy has gone through 3 duramax trucks and way to many problems.
I’m not trying to be a Stereotypical douche but please get your front drive shaft and transfercase inspected or replaced sometime soon. I’ve seen so many trucks get totaled out by insurance because the front driveline exploded and sent a driveshaft through the floor making them total it because they don’t want to spend the money or time getting it repaired.
Edit: I’m talking about your 4th gen 6.7
Agreed, can’t beat the Ram. Both are good trucks though but like the say, if you can’t Dodge it Ram it !!!
I think you’re full of B.S
Ive owned both. I had a 2006 LBZ and loved it but i am a p-pump man at heart. Both great engines but i will always prefer my good old ppump 12 valve 5.9 Cummins
As you mentioned the simplicity of the strait six is nice. Love my 05 Cummins. No emissions to worry about is awesome as well .
Where did you come up with an 05 without emissions?
My 03 was about the last ones I have seen.
Even my buddies 04 has an EGR system and a particulate filter.
@@jamesglenn520 I have an 04.5. 5.9's never had an EGR or Particulate filters. 04.5 to 07 had cats. So did the 03 to 04 SO engines that were California legal.
@@spooler7828 I'm in Idaho no Extra Crap added back then. Lol
2005 dodge truck lol massive pile of 💩💩
@BC bet you can't explain why tho 🤡🙈🙉
The Cummins is a superb engine no doubt. But, being a fleet manager in the oil field I can testify that both are very reliable. The difference arises in overall truck quality; eletrical systems, transmissions, a/c systems, etc..... and dealership support! In our industry, the GM trucks always cost us significantly less and when you need the dealership, our experience with GM has always been measurably better and far quicker.
My first diesel was an '04 Dodge/ Cummins 5.9L. 14 years later at 216K miles and no out of pocket money spent except a water pump I now have an '18 Ram 6.7L. I stay with my success.
How is the ‘18 ram holding up? I’m close into buying one
I'm a GM / Dodge guy myself. I prefer the older stuff. My current daily is a 94 GMC crew cab flat bed 4x4 with a gen 1 Cummins with 5 speed and a Watson box behind the trans, so it's currently setup as a 10 speed. 3 sticks on the floor. Dead simple reliable setup. Unique as hell...
That’s beautiful
How often do you use all ten gears ? , I'm a old truck driver and I love gears preferably a manual, I swear buy Cummins and have wondered if ram has stuck with the 6 speed simply because of the fat torque curve not needing so many gears, I've driven the 10 speed Ford's and it seems like they're always hunting for a gear
Pics?
I’ve had an 04 Cummins, ran like a top, easy to work on or maintain. A 7.3 with a katrillion miles that was reliable but dog slow, a 6.0 that was deleted that was decent but both always needed work and just bought an L5P that I LOVE. Overall I like the GM better but both are good trucks.
Cummins master of diesel pushing most of those 18 wheelers up and down the big road
Are you sure? the Cat 3408 is the famous big rig engine
I had the 2018 l5p and now have 2018 6.7 cummins and absolutely loved them both !!!!!
That was a great comparison and probably one of the most unbiased I've heard yet well done.
Thanks! It was definitely a tough one to make
Go with the Duramax Steve!
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@Dylan Vanderpool that wierd, I ran NUMEROUS duramax over the years, bush work and never ever has one left me stranded!
It defends how you take care of them, and they take care of you.
Nice job.
I’ll keep my 98 Ram 3500.
When the shut off solenoid went out 7 years ago I was able to fix it and get home with a shoe string. Drove it that way for a few months before I decide to fix it right.
Do that with you common rail diesels.
Gliding in towards a million miles now. Still runs great.
Hoovie's RAM 2500 is approaching 1 million miles too (just 100 miles away)...
I have a 2017 ram 2500 and I can say the engine holds way better than anything else on the truck.
The Cummins does not make up for the rest of the truck
I have a 2017 as well. I could not agree more. If only that motor was in a ford or chevy.
@@mikebwaymb I have a 16 ram 2500, and I probably wont buy another ram, looking at fords now
I’m in the same boat as everyone here. Truck will run forever. But everything else falls apart. If fords weren’t so damn expensive to repair. I’d get a Ford.
Damned chrysler electronics....
Cummins and Duramax are both great in the end ^^
At least they aren’t powerstrokes
Lol I have 6.7 power stroke. 300k with very little issues except for emission stuff
Dude, you know your stuff. I appreciate your knowledge. Good video.
In-line 6 by far the best engine design.
I have owned them all. But I been the happiest with my duramax. All are good in there own ways. Like you said it’s personal preference and mine is duramax.
Definitely 👍
@Curtis Fleabag enjoy your fiat cummins
I've had both. Actually prefer the cummins/asins. My duramax/allison lml ran way too hot towing heavy. GM under-cooled both the engine and the trans(over heated both). The cummins/asins runs significantly cooler. It's not even close. I'll take the cummins/asins any day.
@Curtis Fleabag
Enjoy your Diamler renault puegot fiat ram. Pitiful when no company wants to keep the supposed "best truck ever".
@Curtis Fleabag Bruh Japan made shit is top quality! Why do you think Honda, Toyota and Nissian exist? Cause they didnt like the American imported cars they were driving. Japan does make a better quality vehicle
I love my 2006 LLY. I liked your thoughts on both Duramax and Cummins I learned a lot, thank you. I need a bigger turbo to take care of check engine light reset. LOL
When i stepped up to a diesel a cpl years ago to pull a heavy trailer . Id call a chevy dealership lookin for a duramax . They would say they had one . Buy the time i would get down there , cpl hours . They were gone ! Cummins n dodges were everywher . They kept tryin to shove the Dodge on me . Have your pic if want dodge .
I finally pinned down a 05 siverado . 6.6 . 80,000 original miles . Air ride . Monster towing hitch . Just what i was lookin for .
Bottom line fr me was the transmission . Got 2 weldin buddies with dodges . They both say the same thing every time we bounce out for a weldin gig . Outta state or western slope . All i would hear the day we would be leaving is : God i hope this transmission gets me back home ! I didnt want to be that guy ! Went with the Allison .
Good video brother ! Thanx !
We have a Duramax in my 2007 Silverado and it's still running great after 290k miles.
Yes, I have one myself with about 200k trouble free miles. The LBZ was the high water mark for reliability in pre DEF engines in my opinion.
yes they are!!!
I give the nod to Cummins. I'm not a modder. I'll buy the truck and leave the engine bone stock. I prefer iron head over iron block, vs. aluminum head over iron block for durability over the long term. Seems like most of the issues with both diesels start to increase when people start screwing with them. The Cummins will also mean that I'm not looking at the ugliest front end ever plastered on a heavy duty truck like GM did with the GMC and Chevy twins.
Talking about Iron or aluminum block/heads, Chevy blew it back in the days when they made a Vega with an aluminum block and iron head. The aluminum blocks would expand at a different rate as the iron heads causing several problems. They were notorious for having issues.
@@abraham3981 Yeah. I grew up in the Malaise Era. U.S. Automakers were truly building garbage in contempt of their customers.
I hauled cars and trucks for GM all my life and I was a Ford man big time. But I have hauled all brands of trucks and cars the first Dodge diesel had problem like 4 speed manual would not hold up to the toque so the fixed it with five spee the they did not have a intercooler so they fixed that so I bought my fist Dodge 2500 and it was a great truck but that truck rode like a log wagon and never had any problems with that truck put 200 k on it and no repairs. Well I had a a plastic idealer pulley lock up and burnt the belt and pulley up so I fixed drove it with no belt for 10 miles to work and never got hot. So in 05 I bought my dream truck a Dodge 3500 4 door long bed dullay with 4x4 and my biggest disappointment was the sound nothing sound of 12 valve truck. But this truck would ride like a caddy and only have 150 k on it it is all stock . But I did put a lift pump on it and it was very low pressure so I got a Flesse dual g motor lift pump and at idle it put out 12 lbs and at hard pull it would put out 18 lbs and this is a drop in tank unit and one pump works off factory and the other comes with harness and relay and fuse and the great thing is if you lose one pomp you have a second pump to get you home and they have a life time warranty. So my dream truck would be a Ford with Alison trans with a cummins engine and you would have the best of the best. As far as V8 diesels they suck .I think I read 200 + extra parts not cool .
Lol. Ram=plastic transmission..who gives a shit how good the engine is if the transmission is made in the Toys-R-us shop. Plus I think my GMC front end looks waaay better then the ram. I'm sick of this "it's got a cummins" shit. I haul over the road in my '21 D-max I love the truck. All I see is rams on the side of the road with shit hanging underneath them touching the pavement.
@@B-rad303 You do realize that Ram doesn't build transmissions for their trucks in house, right? ZF supplies their transmissions for the 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton gassers. 3/4 and 1 ton diesels use Aisin transmissions - built by Toyota. I'd love to see an Allison, but that's not gonna. Be a thing.
180,000 miles on my 2017 Ram / Cummins and never a single issue. Just regular maintenance and she’s still pulling as strong as the day I bought her brand new.
The amount of times I’ve read a comment just like this is astounding it’s a $60,000 dollar truck it better be running good with only 180,000 miles my vw has 212,000 miles and I’m not over here bragging, for your sake I hope it keeps going strong.
@@Gg-gt1hj by the way, it wasn’t 60,000 dollars either.
@@Gg-gt1hj these trucks get worked cars just cruise
Im driving a 93 toyota 22re with 370000 miles. Not much good at towing or hauling, but great on gas and not burning oil yet!!! My other truck has a cummins 6.7.
One practical plus to the Cummins is parts availability separate from the Dodge/Ram dealership. For a 5.9, I couldn't find exhaust manifold gaskets at any dealership newarby, but were immediately available from a commercial diesel truck repair shop. Since Duramax aren't also "big rig" engines, if a part isn't available at a GM parts counter that could be a problem.
100% agree on all points! I love my 2019 L5P. I installed a RDS 64mm unit as well and it does very well. I hot shot and my truck has 290,000 miles on it. Still runs like new!
Nice 👍
290k miles on a 2019? Woah.
How did you get into hotshot trucking? Looking to do the same….
Bro i have 49,000 miles on my 2022 Duramax already 😹😹😹
@@jrsv5605 😂 I’m at 327,000. Still runs like a champ! The LML has its issues, but this L5P is a beast. No issues at all besides the turbo.
Great FAIR video..ill still keep my 6.7 cummins..Keep up the Great videos
Awesome video brotha! very informative! GOD BLESS!
Thanks
Ditto on the vid!!! I have one of each and love them all!!!!
Just traded my 08 duramax in on a 17 Cummins... I'm pretty impressed I just love diesel trucks they are badass engines
One thing you left out is the Detroit Diesel engines which are used in military vehicles. They were also used in Chevrolet/GMC trucks for years.
Yah - the old Detroit 6.2L V8 diesel had its issues but it was fully mechanically controlled, it kept on running.
@@eddiewillers1 The Detroit diesel engines we had in the Marine Corps were just as reliable as the Cummins in line 6 cylinder engines in the 5 ton trucks.
Detroit sucks
6.5 are crap I'm working on one on a school bus. In its 18 year life span its gotten 4 injection pumps I'm doing the 4 one right now and that thing leaks and burns oil like crazy. and that's the bus driven 15k miles a year
@@oscarblanco1267 Jesus they put a 6.5 in a bus???? Shit that engine cant pull for shit bro, i feel bad for you
The only complaint I've had with my Dodges (4 of them) is the transmission. I've never made it past 200K miles without an over haul. An Allison 1000 would be nicer as far as gears go, but I don't know if they would be any better on life expectancy. I worked around people that had power stokes and duramaxes. Every one of the said they wish they'd bought a Cummins. Some did replace theirs with Cummins.
Good video , I’ve always been a Cummins guy. I started wrenching as a heavy truck mechanic, so I cut my teeth on Cummins. Recently sold my 07, 5.9 and regretted it before he got out of the driveway. Keep up the videos, I always enjoy them
Depends on the Duramax. L5P with a real Allison transmission. Yes please!
@Pat Larimer - incorrect. That started in 2019.
@@donaldbailey5576 so you can get a 6-speed “real Allison” with a 2017 L5P?
@@ArmyProperty - Google. But I believe so.
Great video! I drive the 2006 Ram 2500 with the 5.9 Cummins and it’s been wonderful so far :)
Thanks
I completely agree, I own a 07 5.9 and I love it, but duramax definitely have their place in the diesel world.... like the unbiased review
I have a 01 Cummins and it sounds amazing but I did just change the vp44 with a new lift pump and fuel pressure gauge👌
Love Cummins engine super solid as well as Allison transmission! If they combine to build truck it’ll be solid like for real
Great informative video. I like the fact you’re trying to save both Chevy and Chrysler engines. My hat’s off to you for the filter tips.
I am a retired Ryder systems mechanic and have worked on hundreds of the smaller two valve cummins but also the QSC engines. Being in Orlando, our only problem we had, was that ether one of the center two cylinders liners bottom o-rings deteriorated from heat causing coolant into the crankcase. The high pressure pumps went at times as well. But we are talking of a fleet of thousands of engines and they are very reliable in my opinion!
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The old LMM was a great engine. Mine has almost 300k on engine ad Allison 1000.. No issues ever and it works hard hauling cattle etc.
I got the cummins because my last GM vehicle fell apart around me before even hitting 20k miles, and I love the L6 smoothness as the motion is a smooth wave form. Also L6's have like 40% less parts and are dead simple compared to 8's. That is why Semis use L6's almost exclusivly (there are exceptions).
There* not "their..."
Lol never had a problem with my Duramax
@@wolf9189 same 😂
There are exceptions ***** their is possessive. Their truck. Versus there are differences. Lol
@@haffdanthorfinnson2413 Corrected, Thanks for the English lesson. Seriously.
Probably THE BEST diesel video OF ALL TIME!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Thanks!
Enjoying my 2020 Ram 2500 with the Cummins. So far.
The honey moon is always sweet. 😄
As soon as your warranty runs out, put a CP3 in to replace that CP4.2. Trust me
BUY A DURAMAXXXXXX
It will break down trust me
#MeToo! Only had it it two weeks, and flew to Savannah from Long island to pick it up. The road trip to bring the new girlfriend home was a pleasure.
Had an 04.5 LLY traded it for an 08 megacab. Definitely torn between the two. Overall interior comfort is gm hands down until they went away from the cateye. Interior room is megacab. Torque off the line towing is cummins, throttle response and acceleration dmax all day. My chevy also got better fuel mileage. Averaged 24 whereas my cummins is averaging 20. Also wasn't a fan on the smaller fuel tank on the short bed gm. I feel a Frankenstein of some sort would get you the perfect truck
As an all around gear-head with a passion for everything from rotary Rx7s to high compression vtec motors to all American V8 muscle and of course diesel trucks ...I'm proud to see everyone enjoying combustion engines while we still have them !! LONG LIVE THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE !!!!
Thx. This is alot of value
My very first deisel truck I bought is a 2008 dodge 3500 6.7 cummins. Shortly after I bought the truck I had to do a head gasket with a.r.p head studs and had tbe exhaust worked on and had to do fuel injectors. Other then all that the body and Chassis is in great shape and everything works well . So far I love the truck and I hope it goes a long while.
And think of how much easier it is to do a head gasket on that than a duramax!
I did the cp3 conversion @ 200,000 (preventative). Got lucky to make it that far though. Love my lml duramax but it’s a Cummins for my next truck.
I bought a 94 Ram will I was a Ford mechanic, I put over 300,000 miles on it never do much to it but the thing I was doing it’s warm up the engine before I drive , someone tell me never use a cold diesel if you want to keep it for long time !
I forgot to mention a dream to work on it !
I have a 2013 ram 3500 . I have 388,000 miles on it now and still running great.
How tf u drive tht many miles in 8 yrs🤣
Me and my buddy did that I’m two years lol. 384k team drivers ups
1075 torque for the Cummins currently
The Duramax is an Isuzu engine design, even though GM likes to take credit and the 6.6L is basically 2 of their 4 cylinder engines put together. Isuzu started out as Tokyo Automobile Industries Co., Ltd. in 1937 and later they changed their name to Isuzu after a river in Japan in 1949, so while not quite as old as Cummins they are not a youngster either.
Thank you, Jeff. Excellent video!!
I have a 01 f250 with a 5.9 12valve in it..with a cooler and few other things ..6speed stick works well with 3.73 diffs...love it
Personal truck is a modded LLY. She only sees about 3-4K miles a year. Had an 02 Cummins (Miss that girl every day). Work truck is a Ford 6.7. I swear you can beat that fords ass every day and it wants more. All great trucks in my opinion depending on what you bought it for. Great break down review homie, pretty accurate and honest. Love your passion for the diesel industry. Keep up the great vids bud.
Very informative video. From my perspective there should be none of the Diesel engine issues you described in either the Duramax, Cummins or PowerStroke Engine’s. There is plenty of Diesel engine information and knowledge out there to design and build a ten year trouble free engine - much like we frequently see in the large highway transport trucks. In addition, for my money the Duramax platform couple with real Allison transmission is the best combination that provides the most reliable, trouble free, performance towing combination in the market. Unfortunately GM has wondered from its historical QA program, and now produces trucks with almost the same volume of issues as Dodge.
Great review, great info. The Big (3) are hard to beat.
I was a die hard Cummins guy until I started a excavation business. After the 4th major breakdown towing an excavator in the mountains of West Virginia and at last rescued by my cousins LBZ, I was a Duramax man all the way. Currently driving an LML. Don't believe the torque difference. It's barely noticeable.
Best Truck in the world it’s Cummins Engine Allison Transmission
This something I can agree on
Allison is ok. It was the gold standard 12-15 years ago but between the torqueshift, aisins and the allison. The allison is actually the weakest one. Reliable, but weaker of the 3.
Allison is most over rated transmission in the industry ....
@@robertwolgast3413 it is....its still a very good trans and shifts well (or atleast mine did), but it's certainly not perfect.
In my LML the allison generally ran 190-210 degrees towing heavy going down the freeway. I have even overheated the trans as well with low speed super steep grades (off the beaten path roads in the mountains). I hit 245+ degrees! I have also over heated the duramax engine before as well (which is a known issue for the 11-15 duramaxs as the engines are undercooled). I am told the l5ps the allison still runs hot. My aisins and cummins runs significantly cooler. My aisins generally run 165-180 on the freeways and I have never seen above 190 degrees on those low speed steep grades. So as far as cooling and strength is concerned, the aisins walks all over the allison. The cummins does seems to be a bit more laggy I must admit, but it does make more noticeable torque below 2k. I also had a 13 p-stroke for a year as well. But that is another story ;)
To me, easier to work on, less parts Cummins wins hands down, that being said I drive a DURAMAX because it drives better to me.
Are you driving 2x4 or 4x4? I grew up in Chevys and love the cat eye and miss mine although I’ve always love the raw power and easy to work on rams also I think a solid axle Ram rides better than an IFS GM that’s why I’m asking the 2x4 of both feel too squishy for my liking I still prefer ram though lol
I drive a 2020 duramax work truck 4x4 and it drives and handles great! I had a 2009 4x2 and it was not very good. My 2005 was better than the 2009. 2020 Durmax is very strong.
Good video. Never really knew much about Duramax. I'm an OTR truck driver and as those trucks are I6 was partial to Cummins.. I had a 2001 5.9.. Had power upgrades and hybrid turbo... Annnd had the 53 block.. Tried drill stitching, didn't work, replaced shortblock swap.. Had problems with the vp44..
Traded that for my current 2009 3500 6.7.. Stock all around.. 85k miles, tow 36' 5th, only had to change turbo actuator recently.. Best truck I've had so far... Miss my old lousd no emissions Diesel though.
This is your best and most informative video to date. I have been watching from the beginning. 04 LB7. 278K miles. Stock with Fass lift pump. New free injectors at 117k miles.
Thanks Cliff
I’m sticking with my 95’ 12 valve Cummins all day. I’ve been looking for a nice one for around 15-20k with low miles.
I’ve got a 1995 dodge 2500 Cummins I’m looking to sell. 115k miles. Replaced transmission 10k miles ago.
355,xxx on my old LLY. Still getting the job done and creating smiles per gallon. Love the cat eye look.
I’ve got a 2005 lly myself just about to roll 300,000, original trans and engine no complaints. I work out of it 5-6 days a week.
Great to hear a few LLYs are kicking after 300k, they truly are great trucks!
I have had both, they both are great. I have had a '17 Ford f 250 now for 5 years and it is a great truck too.
I have a duramax dually with 400K. It's been a great truck that constantly pulls a 32ft gooseneck pulling heavy equipment. I've had to replace the injectors and now the head gaskets( both recently). It's been a great truck and I plan on keep it around till the wheels fall off. All manufacturers have their lemons but if you don't take care of them, they won't last very long. I know people with fords and dodge truck and they are great trucks and I know people that don't take care of their trucks and they are constantly breaking.
Great comparison..but I'm a Cummins Guy all the way this is my daily driver: 18 RAM 2500 Laramie CrewCab (Sport Group) 4X4 SRW, AMP Powerstep, EFI live Tuning, 5" FloPro, w/FTE Resonator, Banks Intake, G&R Sump, FASS 165gph, RevMax Signature 850, 4:10 gears, BD Exhaust Brake, ARP .625's, CP3 10.6mm, Injectors 80%, Stainless 2G Swap S472/87/1.00, Dyno tuned Fire Punk 820hp/1325tq
Nice 👍
i love my 2001 cummins 5.9 24 valve, 364000 and still running strong.
I miss my 2001!! I currently have a 2006 with a Mega Cab...the Cab is what got me to trade. Loved both trucks.
I'm one of the 3 people that bought a Titan XD with the 5.0 V8 Cummins, It actually has been a very great truck and tows amazing.
wow awesome,
i have a 2005 ford f650 flat bed dump truck with a 5.9 Cumming diesel engine, great that put big smile on my face
I got both. A '17 Cummins and a '06 LBZ. I would rather drive the Cummins, but I love the cat eye look of the LBZ. It's also a plus that the LBZ doesn't have any emissions shit on it.
Unfortunately I had my CP4 blow about a year ago in my 2016 LML. Thankfully it was under warranty still and saved me a few extra dollars. I love the truck but it was disappointing to have the CP4 fail on me, great video by the way love the work!
My 2020 trailboss blew up at 8k miles. Not a diesel, but it was enough to make me sweat off GM forever. Traded it away as soon as it got out of the shop
@@lesterparker1594 WTF are you doing here? Diesel is a completely different game.
@@thomasrudder9639 I make this comment on every truck video I watch so people know not to buy GM garbage. The entire company is a pile of ass
Awesome thank you for your service
Im a huge dodge fan , but we cant give them credit . They are famous bc of the Cummins. That they dont make . So gm wins this hands down . Better selling and more luxurious when it comes to the denali line . They have nothing to compare to the T-rex or trailhawk . But as a everyday pickup give me a GM
Always Insightful Josh. Thanks for breaking it down. Both trucks are great. Imo the ride quality on the gmc and the simple things like handles and trim go to the dmax all day. Ram is great. But they lack on design. Great engine. None better. But it’s got issues like the dmax.
Thanks
Yea right. GM is so far behind ford and ram they can’t be seen. GM has smaller motors, old ideas and shit interior. GM can’t compete. Where have you been. Plus there aren’t any big rigs with motors made by duramax. Gm is cheap nowadays.
I’m a GM guy so duramax is where I sit, but I agree the Cummings are better in some areas. Love the video keep up the good work!
Can’t help but correct the spelling! Cummins! Not going’s!
I’d like to address all these comments, duramax and an Allison transmission is the best you can get in my option but we can’t sit here and say a duramax will go farther then a 12v we all know that but if you want power and fun you get a duramax
@@billb8862 also ive had 2 duramax’s and love them so I would not say I have a dodge Buddy
I have both the 2018 Ram/6.7 Cummins and the 2017 GMC/6.6 Duramax L5P. The GMC will spank the Ram in a drag race, but the Cummins is all business when it comes to doing work. I think the Ram looks better and is the most "truck" of the big 3, but the GMs ride softer. If I could only have one... as much as I hate to say this... the GMC would take the win.
I put a whole lot of miles on the Ford/Powerstroke 6.7 and I really didn't like it enough that I would buy one. I've been a Ford guy most of my life before that and have owned more Ford trucks than anything else, but I bought the Ram over the Ford in 2018. I have only had the GMC a short time, but it's the nicest truck I've ever driven (3500 Denali).
I am a Ford guy so I can watch this without getting feelings hurt to bad.
I too am a ford guy. I haven’t even started watching the vid yet. I can tell you dodge is a piece of shit though. You almost couldn’t give me one.
Its like someone from a third world country deciding what's for supper the pig or chicken running around at 4 and supper at 6....get a Ford and to the steak barbeque faster!!!!
Sorry about that man😁
I've owned then all. And now on my 3rd ford. The other 2 are good but ford is made work.
Ok, I'll admit that Ford builds the best LOOKING truck right now. But, how's that 6.0 from the past treating you?
I personally never owned a duramax, but I have a 3rd gen cummins and I love it
Thanks for sharing although I prefer the Cummins I believe
Great video bro very informative. I'm new to the diesel scene and wanted to know what I should upgrade on the following: Silverado 2014 Duramax crew cab 2500HD LTZ with the LMM it has 360k miles and it was a work truck that was a personal truck for the owner very well taken care of but not modified it is still stock... what items would you recommend?
Very informative! I own a 17 Duramax (Silverado 3500 duely w/flatbed). I haul utility trailers, cars & whatever I can put on my 50’ wedge trailer. I am in Oregon, however I venture all over the western USA.
I now have 220,000 on my truck. I have been out about $30,000 in repairs since the warranty ran out. That was in Aug of 2020,
Almost all of my troubles have to do with the DEF system. The entire exhaust, fuel system and the turbo all have been replaced. The truck finally overheated one too many times about 65 miles SE of Casper, Wyoming on June 24.
Much money was spent getting it to a friends shop off I-90 outside of Gillette, WY where it remains today. My friend found mea replacement engine with just 10,000 on it. He had to replace the turbo & the radiator (plus more components related to all of that).
So, I rented a vehicle, went home to Oregon and had to do allot of financial juggling: Then, as luck would have it, my friend (he’s late 60’s) wound up in the hospital (out now & slowly getting back to work). Then I caught COVID-19/pneumonia & expect to be out of this hospital recovered ina few more days.
I hope at that time, my truck will be ready for me & I’ll be back (1300 miles) to Wyoming to get it.
So, that’s my story. I otherwise like my truck (loaded w/all the extras). I can’t afford to get rid of it (up-side down on what I owe), but I need it back making me money! I am in my early 70’s. This ordeal has been killing me! I don’t trust the truck long-term enemy though it’s a rebuilt. I know that because of EPA we can’t legally do DEF delete (?). So,I tell you my story asking if there is any way to reliably get another couple hundred thousand miles without having to constantly worry that I will see constant re-gen’s, & exhaust fuel related shut-downs?…..Thankyou for any suggestion. I’ve enjoying your You-tube while I’m the hospital. Pete Pershall, Lebanon, OR. E-mail peterpershall@icloud.com or text/phone (541)619-5378
12 valves are the best. But I've you, if we were talking 06 I'd rather have a durmax as I do love those trucks
CP4 bomb went off in my LML with only 52,000 miles! Not fun to deal with. Would do the CP3 conversion right away! Love the pickup besides that!
That goes for anyone that runs a CP4... Just save the money in the long run and swap to CP3
L5p duramax does not have botch fuel system components anymore
Great vid...keep in mind with the '06 (of which you mentioned Ram's "cramped interior," that's the 1st year you could get the Ram with the Mega Cab.
I've got a 6.7 liter Cummins chipped twin turbo making about 600 plus ponies , took a cat dozer on a 30' float all through the Ozark foothills to a little back woods town south of Memphis ,1,100 mile round trip, felt like I was pulling a bass boat. 90 mph on the toll roads and 35 to 50 mph through those winding ass mountain roads, that sucked by the way, but torque up and down for 2 hours on those ridiculous roads in the mountains, stayed solid always felt hooked up and smooth throughout the full torque curve and never struggled. If you want to test a truck, drive it through those sh** y two lane mountain roads all the way across the state and that'll give you an idea if you got what you paid for.
I think all 3 makes of trucks can haul 30,000 pounds plus
@@lyleswavel320 it's more than just the powerplant, the transmission, drive line, rear end, suspension, brakes, they all have got to function at peak performance over long stretches accumulating into thousands upon thousands of miles. I had a 07 ram 3500 that was pulling this same load up into the high 170,000 mile range but traded it on a new jeep for the wife. This 2017 ram is a beast and it's never even once given me any problems on or off road. Just about every site we haul equipment to is remote and the roads are some of the most primitive that you could imagine and traction and control take on a whole new set of conditions that every component has to hold up to or it's a really messed up place to have to improvise a vehicle rescue. I have had to unload the machinery and actually drag truck and trailer through oatmeal like mud that just about any wheel driven vehicle would be swallowed up in. I drove nothing but Chevy for decades but after that first 07 dodge proved itself to me, i just couldn't say no to that Cummins engine and allison tranny .
I love my 2015 RAM 2500 Cummins but in all honesty if GMC had a megacab option on their trucks, I would probably have bought a nice Denali 2500HD by now. Engine and transmission just work much better together and overall ride quality seems to be better on the GM. Plus their is a reason far more major performance shops specialize in the Duramax
Cummins allday
I have respect for the cummins motors, but I've always been loyal to GM. Love my LLY as my toy hauler. Loved my old 6.5 Detroit I had before it, but it was time to upgrade to something a touch newer and more comfortable for longer trips towing. Just did a 1900 mile round trip this fall towing my 8000# toy box down to the Smokey Mountains and with just a Fass165, SB MP, and a 4" straight exhaust, the LLY did it with no sweat. Ive bought several more upgrades over black Friday to make it even better, but cannot complain how it does currently.
Detroit was tasked with trying to unfuck the Oldsmobile diesel abortion. I don't know if gm ended up adopting *any* of the changes DD suggested. By the time of the junk 6.5, DD was sold to Penske and were building John Deere designed 4 cycle engines, 0 to do with Generic Motors.
@@randymagnum143 nice so you just explained that you know nothing about that diesel. It has nothing to do with the Oldsmobile diesel
@@rock-uu7qr funny, all gm's press releases at the time said it was a "collaboration" between GM and DD. Check your block ID #, been a long time since I saw one, but almost positive they were assembled on gm's lines, *not* gm DD. Like a 700r4 was a gm transmission, not a hydramatic like a th400, even though "th" 700r4 nomenclature. DD was on the rocks at the time. They didn't even have $$$ to engineer their bread and butter, that's why they bought Deere's design for the 60 series.
Great video man!! Very informative!
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Very interesting. I have friends that have owned the three major truck brands and all seem to stay loyal to one brand. I agree with the often seen comment that the best “civilian” towing platform would be a Cummins diesel bolted to an Allison transmission, dropped into a Ford body!
Amen!
That statement has been made many times - Ford chassis, Cummins motor, Allison transmission. And it does sound good. The only change I would make is just go ahead with the Ford transmission now. So basically just a Cummins swapped Ford. I've had 2 Allisons and they've showed me nothing vs a Ford HD transmission. I've now driven multiple Ford HD's from pickups to F-650, gas and diesel, and the Ford transmissions have all performed beautifully.
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.
@@tazmo2004 Could that be because they would rather drive the Ford themselves?
yes I agree Cummings engine Allison transmission Ford body perfect truck