My 2021 RAM 3500 Needed $4,000 in Service!! DIY EGR and CCV Service Saved me $1650!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2023
- I'm a little upset about this one. I took my 2021 RAM 3500 in for "perform service" message on the dash, and the dealer quoted me $4,000 in repairs! I'm going to DIY for about $350!
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FYI, chrysler tech here. The "perform service" only means that you need a ccv filter. You don't need the egr cleaning until 120k miles, and even then, they are usually perfectly fine and don't benefit from the service.
Look in your owners manual and you'll find the only thing that needed to be changed was the CCV filter. Ram did away with the requirement to clean the EGR filter when they started using DEF, 2013 as I recall, and the "67,500" service actually jumps up to an even higher interval with the 5th Gens I believe. The actual service manuals have the correct data but the dealers always seem to go with the requirement on the older configurations.
There's no EGR filter. You are referring to the EGR cooler which really gets clogged up on pre-DEF cummins (pre 2013).
I think he probably meant DPF@@wtbman
@@wtbmanthe EGR cooler still get clogged has nothing to do with the def system
@@jamesvuxta8723 2013+ trucks run fewer EGR cycles because they run more SCR/DEF so they don’t clog as often. The EGR maintenance interval mileage is a lot longer on DEF trucks. Therefore newer trucks should have fewer EGR issues.
@@wtbman I believe that was pre-67A recall 🤣
My EGR valve looks brand new. Only has 11 miles on it. When you keep emissions parts on a shelf, they last MUCH longer….
Bwahahahaha awesome!! At least you know where it belongs! Haha
Nice video. Not to pour salt on the wound, but Rock Auto sells that crankcase breather for about $60 and those gaskets for line $6 each...next time. Either way you're helping to empower folks to save a bunch of $ with some easy to do DIY maintenance. Thanks! PS: Nice to see Roxy! She's been missing for awhile!
@@BlackpowderBBQhe has money and he probably just a wright off on taxes
Should cut that filter open to see just how much it was really worth. It was plastic.
Got my CCV from Amazon for $27, and took me 10mins to do.....I hate stealerships
Newer has never been better. I was told by my Grandfather to buy used but cared for as opposed to spending big bucks for new when I was 12 years old. I am 75 now and practiced what he preached except for a new Pontiac GrandPrix in 1997, which was a lemon, and suffered a $6500.00 cash loss.
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Same here. My god father always told me to buy used well care vehicles instead of new or certified pre owned. After two bad experiences will never buy used well care again. Will only buy new or used certified pre owned. The money you might save you will end up paying it in post repairs over the years and headaches
I had a 98 Bonneville SSEI, one of the best cars I have ever had.
I sold my 2019 diesel over 2 years ago, which was $760 a month, and bought a 2003 Duramax for 17k. Zero problems since I bought it 124k miles no Def saved me 8k a year in payments alone. The truck has already paid for itself in payment savings.
Don’t buy a new duracrap are you will be dealing more problems
The only real issue with this gen Duramax are the injectors. Keep your eye on the oil and oil level as the diesel can go down into the crankcase when this problem presents… but otherwise it sounds like you’re winning.
Unless the 2003 Duramax was fitted with an aftermarket exhaust break, you have a lesser truck. Less HP, Less torque, possibly less towing capability. Of course you swapped that for less payments too. For me, the exhaust break is the winner. I can go down a 7& grade towing 11k lbs, set the cruise at 55 and hardly if ever have to touch the brakes. Exhaust brake magic.
Yeah but you are driving a 20 year old truck. My 2020 Ram 3500 will be paid off in 2 years and I’ll be driving a 5 year old truck
Must be at a dealer to let a greenhorn ..screw ya good truck up.....
I'm glad i watched this video. I just bought my first Cummins. I started watching the channel when you picked up the red 2nd gen at auction. I've also got one of those. I bought my truck with 58k on the clock and asked the dealership if they would perform the 60k service which they declined to do i wanted the truck and jumped on it. this service is due now thank you for this video i know it's a little older but it's definitely helping guys like me.
Thanks Randy.
Good job Randy. You saved a lot of money
This will help a lot of people
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Problem I see is it voids the factory warranty. I'd love to do my own servicing but I still have 4 years warranty left on my 2020 Kia.
Great video. It really makes one stop and think about how much is not being said at these dealerships when selling used cars. I've heard some stories that have blown me away just so a dealer can flip a vehicle. "Buyer beware"!
Legit got the same message a month ago around the same mileage as you too. Changed the ccv filter and cleared the service message the same way. Now that i now about the ccv cleaning I’ll take care of that too. $2k for those two services is insane. Thanks for the video you explained everything perfectly
Don't think it's Insane.
I thought he said 1300.00
That's all labor cost. Labor is not free in a shop or any shop.
That's why I'm a DYI mechanic. I don't complain about shop labor. I buy parts and do my thing.
The crazy part about my 2021 Ram 3500 HO Mega Cab is the engine bay looks like the day I picked it up. It takes some time to keep things clean but damn this truck engine/bay looks dirty as hell.
Glad to see you’re doing all your own maintenance. I do all mine except the transmission service. I do oil, oil filter, fuel filters, cabin filter, and these types of services myself. No need to spend that kind of money if you can do them yourself. Just keep a record of everything you do and mileage for any warranty stuff if applicable. Thanks for the video.
Unfortunately, you only cleaned about 10% of the entire circuit!!!!!!!!!
You might also want to check on the bolt that holds the heater grid in the intake manifold. They are known for coming loose and destroying the engine.
Good call! Banks has a cheap solution for that.
Goto GENO’s Garage on google. They have a document on how to check this.
@@christiandulaney1638 I wouldn’t call it cheap haha, maybe cheap when compared to the damage the bolt can cause!
@@Mistro07 right, I think that bolt breaking is mainly banks fear mongering
@@Mistro07agreed! $1000 + is not cheap at our house
Good to see everything went well and smooth
Welcome to owning a heavy duty diesel truck! I bought my CCV filter at Autozone. Works great and has a lifetime warranty for $140.00. I’ve already changed it twice for free. I hotshot so I rack up the miles quick. Also I’ve reused my egr gaskets with no issues. Don’t spend money you don’t need to spend.
I paid UP for a 2002 F350 last year when prices were still high. My truck has a flatbed and had 149K on it when I bought it. I drove it from Springfield, MO back to Northern New England. I wound up taking her to a local diesel shop and I paid about another 3K getting her sorted out. My truck is a pre emissions dream and I have ZERO regrets. Sometimes you get what you pay for!
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Randy, I have yet to see a video of yours that I didn’t enjoy, and I watch all of them. Please keep doing what you’re doing my friend.
Hey Randy, I just wanna let you know that I watched your video for today about you make meetings your truck. You did a awesome job. I can’t wait to see the next video that you got coming up most likely tomorrow. Have a good day. Talk to you later.
Definitely worth cleaning the EGR valve. Look at how clean it is now. Hope you did the other services yourself saving thousands.
You can always fix it! I wonder what the next work truck will be! Great video as always keep it up randy!!!!
Great video!
You showed that this is a straight forward procedure using basic tools. No Witchcraft or Magic involved.
Great job.
I would let the new Ram go and get that pre emissions one. Way cheaper and less B.S. to deal with.
Randy, you don't work on cars remember. Yea right. You are on the right track my friend! Good job!! Saving money is the key to success.
I just bought my Cummins in December of 2023, BUT ! i watched your video before i bought the truck and feel confident that i am competent enough as a novice diesel enthusiast to get the job done.
It's Friday, May 24th. I'll be using your video as a guide. And follow up with you afterward.
Thanks again Randy. These videos are great for us, the consumer. 😃😃😃
Hi Randy it’s so nice to see you working on the ram you need to flip it before you lose money on it you have the right idea buy a older car save money all the best from the UK
Some notes, The CCV will continue trigger perform service if not replaced. it checks pressure, also the EGR valve is not designed to be cleaned on all 6.7 Cummins after DEF system implementation.
Good Video Randy Good Job Cleaning The EGR Valve Keep Up The Good Work With The Entertaining Videos Great Variety On Your Channel
138K and I've never cleaned my ERG on my 2013. No one ever stated at my dealership that in needed to be done. Yes, I have my truck serviced by the dealership when I can't get to it. Good vid! Thanks for posting!
Thanks again Randy. These videos are great for us, the consumer, to inform us on the hidden costs of owning these new vehicles
Very nice hourly rate for the job. I'd purchase an older vehicle with lower mileage and do as you said, replace the engine when needed. You've helped a lot of Cummings owners understand what needs to be done when the time comes or what is ahead of them as they approach that mileage. Informative video as always. Thank you.
And well-spoken and concise TH-cam video as I have learned a lot. I have been trying to do my homework for quite some time. Looking at the Dodge ram diesel trucks and I am looking to buy a used one but I wanted to learn as much as possible as I have never owned a diesel but wanted one because I am getting ready to also buy a camp trailer as my wife and I are both retired and want to do a lot of camping and traveling. Again thank you so much. Very good and well done video !
Great job Randy,I’m going to show the video to my brother as his 2500 Ram diesel has about 50,000 miles.
at around 65K miles he should be getting the same message. It will go into limp mode if not addressed.
Manufacturers and dealers operate in such a way that they try to make it impossible for you to do any maintenance on your vehicle without a headache for you the owner not to mention the rate they charge. Thanks for your videos.
Did it all on my 2013 and saved a ton. It drives like a dream.
I'd buy a Cummins any day, over the other 2 V8 Diesels? After working on a P.O.S. 6.0 Power-Choke, that was done at 150K, the Cummin's is much easier to access main components, and more reliable? A V8 configuration is not as balanced as a straight in-line 6 cylinder? I still think the old 7.3L Power-Stroke is the best diesel Ford ever had?
As a long time subscriber we all know the way you keep choping & changing your personal vehicles, that you don't hold on to any vehicle for long, it's just the way you roll. ☘️
Grate informative video Randy. I'm glad my 09 ram 3500 has none of that emissions crap on it no DEF or a $10,000 exhaust to deal with and with it being a 6 speed manual gets 20 mpg city
Great DIY video Randy. Saved yourself a lot of money. If i was you I’d buy a diesel with cash. Those payments are crazy! 😮
You are the master Randy, very informative and interesting video. Love Roxy!
My 2016 Ram 3500 is very expensive in maintenance. I do the fuel filters myself ($80) in parts. Oil changes I get done at Jiffy lube because it’s just a pain and messy. The dealer charged me about $1500 fir the EGR cleaning. My heater core went bad. That was $2800 including changing the AC evaporator because why not. The dash is already taken apart and it’s a $180 part. I go through tires every two years because the truck is so heavy, it just eats them up. I’ve tried Toyo, BFG and Michelin. I’m doing the egr myself next time thanks to this video.
Excellent intelligent information! I have 2004.5 H.O 3 gen Dodge Cummins. Smog exempt and the crank case filter only $50. I change mine every 50,000 miles. Thank for sharing.
My dad always taught me if the steering does not pull. Do not do a front end alignment. I'm surprised you paid them for an oil change. And a cabin filter? But honestly I don't know how complicated they've made. It become so awesome video. Thank you sir!
If he paid $150.00 for oil change at the dealership. It's a bargain.
My daughter has her Toyota trucks serviced. Oil changes only. I do the regular services. Like brakes and rotors or shocks at my home.
Nice job on getting the Ram running better. Keep up the great work. Okay.
I’ve got a manual 5 speed 2005 dodge ram 2500 5.7 gas. This truck is awesome!! The only serious thing I’ve ever had to do on this truck is new clutch and a fuel pump. I change the oil myself and the plugs. It does have a leak in the exhaust manifold however but I’m not concerned with it because it’s never gotten any worse.
Great video. The problem here was not knowing the services on the vehicle being perchance. But the dealership should have said we are going to include this service when you reach this miles. Pues, you could have saved more by doing the oil change yourself.Great video keep making those to help other understand that they can do this anytime . 👍🏻👍🏻 Note always look for the parts in other places. Just ask the dealer parts department for the list of parts
Hello randy,
Great and informative videos as usual.
Why didn't you do the oil change as well? It would have been good content for the channel.
First class video, can’t believe you filmed all this by yourself!
I bought a 06 3500 Cummins new. Still love it. It has none of that crap under the hood 👍💪🏻🇺🇸
great job and you saved so much money in doing it yourself 👍👍
Randy, Thanks for the heads up and the warning to never buy a new truck! I will keep my 2005 3rd gen Laramie.I bought it new and have only have to do very basic maintence on it so far. 154,000 miles on it so far and it run like the day I bought it new. Really hope You sell your truck and get an older one. You will save a lot of time and money. Wish you the best with whatever you decide to do my friend.👍
Great video. It's not time for my service, but I will start buying parts now. This always happens when you are low on cash. Thanks again and doing research does help
Thanks great video, I looked through the owner's manual under "Service Required" and only the CCV filter needs to be replaced and no mention of a EGR service.
Hi randy your extension for sockets is little wobbly . And I think that silver truck you showed in beginning of video looks good to replace the ram . And thanks for saving money for many people
That's alot of dough brother just for a little bit of work. Garages today charge an arm and a leg just for a little bit of work. It's best to do the work yourself and to know how to do it. That's key.👍✌️👌
Great video and I'm sure it will help me somewhere down the road. I'm heading out tomorrow on an 800 mile road trip to buy a gently used 2008 Ram 3500 SLT 6.7 2 WD single rear wheel. I've been looking for a tow vehicle for our travel trailer for over a year now and this may finally be the best one. Dealership has been very helpful sending pics and videos. Said the last owner kept it in a garage and never towed with it.
Keep on Trucking!
Nice thanks I have the same message in my 2016 and didn't know about the cc filter.
Leave the receipts in the book as proof the service was done for the next owner. Great job.
Good job Randy and u saved some good money
Thank you Randy! I have that EGR filter out on my work bench. Great info!
Happy to help!
I remember way back yonder(like 3 years ago) when i had to change my maf sensor & clean the Egr Valve on my Jetta, the dealer wanted close to $400(mechanic rate + parts) did it myself under 2 hours & saved ALOT OF $
Thanks to ur vid I bought the super clean degreaser it's working amazing
Thanks for this video and the intention of the comunication
Excellent teaching video. You have donea fantastic job.
wonderful educational video! Thank you!!!
i just bought and installed a genuine fleetguard crankcase ventilation filter and installed it. it took 20 minutes altogether and the ebay cost for the ccv filter was 30.00 including tax and shipping. the gaskets at napa are about 10-15.00.
Thanks Randy you're saving us money so you should be saving yourself money
Awesome videos only thing I’m missing from this is the torque specks on the bolts but either way awesome video
Hey Randy , good job ! Let’s do a valve lash adjustment now, you are half way there.
Just fyi and you may have already found this out but the Fleetguard CCV filter can be purchased on Amazon for $60 at the time of writing this. I was going to do the same thing with buying it from the dealer but decided to shop around and am thankful I did!
Hey randy... where did you get that SRT Flag that you have in the garage? I want one so bad but i can't find the specific one that you have, i love your videos and i learn from you a lot! Hopefully you can help me where to find one!
Thank you I got same problems I bought new an will get rid of it now
Thanks for this very helpful advice will be doing this my self versus dodge taking us to the cleaners over this thanks a bunch and god bless you sir
I love Super Clean!!! Best ever; use it everywhere. Keep up the good work; I watch all your videos.
Thank you so very much for doing this video. I’m definitely keeping this for a reference.
I’ve got a ‘22 Mega Cab with 42k on it so I’m gonna start putting money away for these other things you did.
Just putting it out there, I found an American filter company for Cabin/Engine/Oil and Fuel out of Ohio called Doc’s Diesel. They’re Fantastic!
Order online, delivered to your door. I only use them. I’m not sure if they have the case filter for it but I also buy my oil from Rural King. Shell Rotella 10W-30 for $15.99/gal.
All for helping people save money!
Also, Doc’s Diesel has a TH-cam with the same name.
Bought my 2007.5 Ram 2500 from a Dodge dealer with 68K miles. Noticed the perform service message. Did some research learned of the 67.500 mile service. The dealer said I was SOL. So I did the service myself,cost about $200 in parts and 4 hours of my labor. Wasnt to bad of a job and everything is on top of the engine. On the earlier trucks its more involved sint the EGR cooler has to be cleaned too. Been 2 years and im at 82K miles now.
great video, you explained everything perfectly
good job randy on that truck and hey love ur dog
Great video! You are very clear and to the point. Inspired me to save some money.You mentioned that you "torqued" down the EGR when you reinstalled. Are there actual torque specs or were you speaking in more general terms?
You should keep a or that heavy duty truck for pulling cars around and have an older truck, like the silver 3500 dodge dually in a previous walk around video, that you can make videos with by fixing it all up. I personally enjoy older vehicles, pre 2020, 2000-2010 vehicles most are easy & kinda fun to wrench on.
Also the ccv filter on that year of truck requires replacement at 75.000 miles for the 2019 to 2023 models
Good job man , clean job big saving
Beautiful and great video! Was thinking about purchasing a 2021. Not going to do it
Good stuff Randy 💯
The best work ⚒
Excellent video. Thank you
Keep up the good work...
I would definitely look at the older workhorses. Vehicle prices are dropping, so too will the trade in values
I just got took on what you're talking about .i went in for a check engine light . And they told me every little little issue they could find I just met the guy. He seemed to be a pretty good younger person With a fairly new Shop. I told 'em to do what he thought would be best for the truck .man the list went on and on 125 to take off a small grill 3 bolts 200 for a bg battery care witch is to small little pads under the clamps and yep the cv filter swap $646 fuel filters $ 376 $450 to hook up the ob2 scanner it's said shops do that to ppl .
i think cummins doesnt include egr cleaning anymore on the newer trucks as a recommended service. they started in with the first 6.7s but some dealerships are probably looking to make more money and/or have not updated their service recommendations.
Great video. Thx for the info
What was that Milwaukee electronic ratchet you were using to get the little bolts from the engine cover off because that looks like a good reliable tool
The maintenance schedule does NOT require the cleaning of the EGR and cooler. Instead of selling your truck it is good to do the maintenance yourself to save money. I’ve changed my leaking plastic Y coolant to aluminum, oil and fuel filter change, crankcase filter, and my turbo actuator myself. You still need to do the oil change on your differentials, transmission and filter, transfer case which the dealer did for me in an hour. They had a special for $1000 which still seemed high but didn’t want to mess with my Aisen transmission on my 2014 Ram 3500 4x4. I do still drive my 1996 Dodge 2500 as a daily driver with 389000 and California does NOT require smog testing pre 1997. I installed a 2013 seat which makes it very comfortable. I love the exhaust brake on my 4th gen for towing but try to drive my old faithful 12 valve which I still love that I bought new.
I bought the Banks Ram intake and will try to do that myself and clean the EGR at that time. My friend lost his engine to the grid heater bolt failure at 120,000 miles. Beware! I did have to change the killer dowl pin on my 1996 12 valve so always something….
Randy, you have beautiful cars for daily driving, you should buy that dually.
Good job Randy 😎😎👍👍money saved is money earned
I could not agree with you more. I bought the same truck with 72000 on it and out about 6000 miles on it and got the same massage. Dealer told me that it would cost me $2500 and I only had it for 2 months. Thank for the video
Good job well look at it this way you know how to do it now . And you shared it .
Job well done. ❤
Come do a walk around in Texas might find one cheaper at the copart around here
Dealerships are pretty much a scam. I worked for a Ford dealership and the markups were ridiculous. That said, if it were me, I'd sell the truck and buy something for cash just to get out from under the payments. Of course, the truck is super nice and if I could afford the payments, I'd probably keep it.
Isn't it amazing how much they charge for something you can do in less than a days time?
Great tutorial thank you