Imperialist West Digging Its Own Grave As Global South, China Rise, w/ Bikrum Gill
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2022
- Are Russia & China imperialist like the US? Will the decline of the west lead to more fascism in the global north? What is sovereignty? Is every country entitled to it? Where do sanctions fit in? What does it mean that the Global South is refusing to get on board with them? And what are the alternatives to the current so-called rules-based international order?
To discuss this and more Rania Khalek was joined by Bikrum Gill, who teaches at the department of political science at Virginia Tech.
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0:30 Intro
2:06 Relevance of imperialism
6:32 China as an alternative: Is China imperialist?
11:14 Projecting European colonialism onto China
15:34 Ukraine proxy war & Western decline
19:39 Is Russia imperialist in Ukraine?
26:02 A changing Global South?
37:19 Resistance movements
40:33 Sanctions
45:20 Racial Capitalism
50:21 Sovereignty
1:00:00 Reparations for imperialists?
1:09:22 Disempowered Americans
1:19:16 Alternatives?
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Would you please bring Arundathi Roy and Vandana Shiva to your show?
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I wish more Indian would listen to this guy's wisdom. I often see so many Indians are so angry with their nationalism but falling for the Western propaganda against China. If India and China work together for a better relationship, the US would think twice about stirring shit up in Asia.
Well Indias days of Hindu China bhai Bhai are long gone
Or US NATO would equal target both----
their standard operating method---- they
love to add more targets ad infinitum.
Amen brother. Thankfully there are signs of this happening. We need to work with China. It amazes me how we side with our colonizers against China. border problems are always there, we can sort them out. but falling for the west is fatal.
@@rajeshpaleth4400 we need more people like you to spread the truth brother. I can assure you most Chinese prefer friendship with Indians.
The problem with indians is that many are still naive and they don’t see the big picture. They easily believe what the mainstream media says without doing any research themselves
Bikrum is impressive! We need more sons and daughters of the South to speak intelligently . The South must stand together
The lesson of China is socialist revolution. The CPC abolished the power of the bourgeoisie and once it got political control, it was able to direct its development and then allow its economy to open up. Unlike capitalism, the new bourgeoisie in China has no political power, so a significant part their capital surplus accumulation can be used to help develop the poor parts of central and Western China. The CPC’s political monopoly and control of the economic commanding heights of the economy enables its rapid development. It’s socialism with Chinese characteristics. Genius.
Requires benevolent dictators though. Too bad the world's a mess right now because the political system should be slowly opening up instead of being in crisis mode (3rd term due to xi's relationship with Putin, and the liberal wing's relationship with Davos and neo-liberalism.
I traveled to rural areas in Yunnan, Xinjiang and Sichuan provinces in China, and found fine roads leading to villages located deep inside, some as small as a few households, and there’s good coverage of 4G network too.
wow, brilliant summary
@@zeissiez I haven't had the chance to visit China and see before my eyes (like the old saying "seeing is believing"), but having watched this 1-hour drone tour video th-cam.com/video/i_SzhRG8H6c/w-d-xo.html I can confirm with confidence what you're saying is true!
So many people out there esp. in the West are truly missing out what has changed significantly in China, it's just huge they're gonna have a hard time to comprehend!
I am from India...and can see the wisdom of this.
Here in India..we "complain"..that we cannot go at the Chinese pace of development because we are a Democracy..and not a dictatorship..
Many resource rich countries are dictatorships..but haven't got any near the development of China.
Russia is standing up to the expansion of NATO, contributing to the end of US hegemony, has rebuilt their economy while maintaining public ownership of natural resources, military manufacturing, and large sections of social welfare. They have continued to be economic and political supporters of socialist Cuba, Bolivarist Venezuela, indigenous collectivism in Bolivia, anti-jihadist Syria, socialist Vietnam, and many more thorns in the side of imperialism. They have developed alternatives to the almighty US $. They have collaborated in economic development between advanced economies and the global south through the SCO and Belt and Road Initiative. No they are not a socialist society, but their actions are encouraging much of the world to that goal.
Gadaffi and Saddams deaths opened some eyes to the evils of imperilaism.
Gadaffi was killed by snakes 🐍 who destroyed their own country for the west,just like Ukrainian 🐍 are doing right now.
Very well and concisely stated. T Y
Very well and concisely stated. T Y
It’s been a depressing time for me and others living in the Capitalist West for years, but also joyful years to see the unstoppable rise and triumph of the Global South.
🙏 👍🌈
And now could be the best time to move and seize opportunities awaiting in the Global South
As a friendly reminder, only China has been successful, many leaders of the Global south are still mired in massive corruption n incompetentcy n India n the phillipines r shining examples of their massive failures
Is the east not capitalist?
@@graemebuchan1919 That's a matter of opinion, but you know when she's referring to the west she's referring to America and Europe. Much of the global south is socialist, and much of Africa, at least, has socialist aspirations. A lot of the directional terms when talking global politics are short hand. And by saying Capitalist West she's clearly deriding the Wests colonialist policies in the 'third world'. She's showing solidarity. Have you never conversed with a Marxist?
@@bohansenbohOr you and your "comrades" are massive hypocrites and drastically undereducated as to the meaning of words and the realities of life, have you never conversed with a Venezuelan? or a Cuban?
Get this guy back on the show, Rania, the interview was great!
Bikrum Gill is so well informed and knowledgeable, i wish to see him more often and actively speak out the facts and truths. He’s awesome! 👍
Glad to see a Jatt Sikh brother and a middle Eastern sister having a chat about imperialism.....Aleast some of the world is heading in the right direction.
Rania is hot
I don't care at all where they are from... I am not as famillar with either one of them as I am with Michael Hudson...
It takes a lot of energy to get to know and trust your sources.
@@bobsmith962 She is cute... Krystal Ball... B.J. grey...
you must be a c.i.a bot going by the contents of your nonsensical comment
@@urrywest No need to worry--- they
are all.on the same side, despite sometimes different emphases.+ foci.
Honest discussions. The world needs more media like you who tells the truth!
What is this truth you speak of? How do you determine what is truth? What measures do you use? What criteria do you use?
not here
China is the undisputed global superpower, economically and militarily, and we in Afghanistan can see it and feel it.
Start working on economic development so the racists would not come attack again
The thing is China doesn't want to be a superpower in the sense that the Americans do. They just want to be recognized as a world power, in a sense where others will envy them. I doubt China will ever want to be a stronger military power than the US, unless it gets into direct conflict with it. However the West cannot stop China's rise in economic power just due to the sheer size of its economic market size.
@@mna7308 China may be a superpower, but only America wants to rule the world th-cam.com/video/h4Pr9g_7Nhc/w-d-xo.html
@@mna7308 Iran was like that. Westernized even. The Anglos still came for it.
What does China's military footprint in Afghanistan look like?
👏👏Bikrum Gill is simply brilliant. So much to unpack just listening to him for even 10 minutes, what more the whole program! This is the first time I come to know about him....today is my lucky day. Thank you for having him here
“obviously liberalism may not be
fascism domestically, but a liberal framework is used to justify what looks a lot like fascism abroad.”
Brilliantly put, Rania! 👍👍👍
Neoliberalism is not fascism, but it leads to fascism (elevation of "Nation" to the sacred, but in a profane way.) A great irony because the Mont Pelerin Society was established precisely with the goal of preventing fascism ever again rising in Europe. The neoliberals were however using neoclassical economics thinking, which led to austerity programs, precisely the sort of macroeconomics that empowers fascists. People vote for the monsters to protect them from the financial parasites.
Not sure,,but basic fact is that center
liberals, moderate rightists,, far rightists
all see selves. in the end, as fellow Western capitalists.
None of these words are useful. Nobody agrees on what they mean anymore. Drawing those lines just ends up boiled down to red vs blue, with us or against us.
Sharing these ideas on Imperialism is timely. I’m 71 and have not known life without war. Hearing you discuss this is truly music to my ears 👂
Perhaps this new shift to multipolarity will take the wind 💨 from the West’s sails. This latest atrocity in Gaza has swung the door 🚪 wide open and the blinders are coming off.
I for one am thankful to see this day. Thanks 😊 for your bravery in covering it and helping people navigate 🧭 through the maze of it.
It is so refreshing and such a welcome change to see two very intelligent and insightful people of color having an honest and very frank and open discussion on the need for a viable alternative to the existing established social, political, and economic order.
Accusing China of what we do (colonizing thatis) the usual US Orwellian double think
it's classical & called #mirroring OR reversed victimisation - you see it's clear, while your 'Orwellian' #doublethink is widely open to ill interpretation.
@@alphabet-agencieskontoraru1540 All tools at our disposal we can use to describe the evils of the American hegemony can be twisted and distorted. Look at all the revolutionary and socialist entities they have co-opted for their own gains. No matter what words we choose, our enemies will seek to corrupt their true meaning and pervert language for their schemes.
Orwell was an imperialist and all his lumpen writings are anti-communist diatribes. Read another book already.
Must teach the collective west a lesson in humility, break the hegemony, supremacy and western exceptionalism....
Must teach the west a lesson in Humanity....
@@vnorm2907 sorry too late they will never learn and repeat the same cruelty again and again in different regions by enabling war and destructions...only through pain , others pain can be felt....
@@mna7308 America only knows one law: the law of the jungle th-cam.com/video/QXFProJC5FY/w-d-xo.html
@@mna7308 Biden has caught on th-cam.com/video/XELVZPWVTE0/w-d-xo.html
is transforming the population into suicidal landwhales not sufficient
I wasn’t aware of the Zimbabwe reparations to settler colonialists. Very insightful discussion on modern imperialism and the distinction between China’s mode of development. What a very informing discussion. Thank you Rania for having Bikrum on.
Thank you for platforming Comrade Bikrum Gill. This is the dialectical analysis we need.
you must have not DUAL, diaLECTIC lecture, but impartial TRial, tri-point view like a judge does in court - he gathers THREE points of view from accused from victim from witness - three angles to look upon the occured event.
Excellent chat!
Some like the US,UK,Germany choose which UN resolution to follow or not and when to break international law.
which UN resolution/international law isn´t followed by Germany - or the US/UK for that matter ?
European powers followed to Afghanistan when the US triggered articel 5 after the terrorist-attacks, so: calling their allies to help. It was a war against an organisation but not against the country.
Most western countries didn´t have anything to do with Iraque or Syria. The US tried to apply pressure - for example on Germany but Germany refused to go to Iraque. Same for most other NATO members. The evidence the US had was too lacking and an undemocratic system is no reason to start a war- especially since Saddam Hussein was the guy the US supported and used before... ;)
Same with Syria btw. Germany and most other european countries didn´t send fighters there. Germany instead took in millions of Syrian refugees and spend billions of dollars yearly to house them, educate and feed them - and suffered from terrorist attacks and violence as a thank you...
Most people in Europe, and probably also most common people in the US, are not supporting the warmongering policies of the US btw.
- the problem is, that the people in power get rich through wars and the US economy is focused on military...
International law would be to respect the borders and integrity of countries. None of the land in Iraque, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam etc were kept. They could have stayed or claimed the resources - like the oil fields, but they didn´t.
Russia is taking the land and keeping it. They did that before- also doing ethnical cleansing. Millions moved or killed - look at the old Poland, Prussia etc. They use people from the poor eastern part of their country, often from specific ethnical groups, as cannon fooder- while the people in the west - like in moskau, st. petersburg etc. profit from it.
So... no keeping land, no ethnic cleansing. That is VERY DIFFERENT to the wars from the "west" (or to be precise: from the US, since most other western countries weren´t involved at all). Rich people/people in power making a profit though wars is sadly the same as in the US or everywhere else.....Putins argument for sending soldiers into a neighbouring country to "protect" the ethnic russians in that country is btw exactly what Hitler used before. Same with the logic of ethnical cleansing- so yeah.... pure hypocrisy
Before this gets too off-topic... In my opinion the comment as well as the interviewer and interviewed guy lack a deeper understanding of the topic and critical thinking. Too much generalisation and populism is used to argue- which is dangerous in itself. History teaches us that this pretty much always ends in blood shed....
I do agree that everyone needs to be hold responsible- including the US and european countries- though
Thank you guys for your hard work, and great journalism! Hard on the ears, heart, and mind, bitter pill to swallow. May God help us all.
You both give me so much hope. It is so good to see young people well informed and, I believe, capable of changing the world.
Tq, Rania. A very intelligent and an unbiased discussion with much truth.
MOST THANKS TO BreakThroughNews for hosting Bikrum Gill whose geo-political analysis makes great sense.
Dr Bikrum Singh Gill is an impressive academic who applies logic and rationale thought with a humanistic approach based on Marxist theory.
Great interview.
This was a great show! It was informative and it had to do with fundamental issues (Sovereignty, Nationalization,Land reform) for the global South.The guest was outstanding!
Thanks, Rania, for introducing Brikum Gill in your great podcast. And thanks Brikum to introduce Nicholas Mulder, Cedric Robinson, Frantz Fanon and Antony Angie's "Imperialism, sovereignty & the making of international law".
so much of Rania's work comes together here - one of her best interviews :)
THANK YOU, BTNews and Rania Khalek, I have always found your Journalistic Voice a reliable unbias fact base commentary. Been relying on it since Syria, circa 2019-20 ... WAGE PEACE >>> THROUGH TRUTH >>> ✌✌☮☮✌✌
Keep that guy on your show and I will donate every time
It's not just Western colonialists that receive reparation from the colonised: Japan received reparations from China when the latter was invaded and colonised by the former!
It was really a great interview with fantastic points of discussion.thanks both of you.
Brilliant conversation guys,I love it!
Looking forward to this one! Thanks, BTN!
Thanks Rania & Bikrum, for this excellent discussion. BTN is such a valuable perspective and source of information during the dynamic time of change we all now participate in, for better and for worse.
Excellent questions and analysis! Thank you!
THANKS FOR LEARNABLE DISCUSSIONS. CARRY ON.
Best regards from Mexico, wonderful interview.
Capitalism needs to devourer and when there is nothing left to devourer it eats itself. There are fewer and fewer countries left to exploit, so capitalists are devouring their own people, as reflected in the dramatic increase in the disparity of wealth in the west.
So are the Clinton's going to devour the Bidens?
@@bobsmith962 If one stood in the way of the other they would. But as it stands now there are enough easy targets for them to pick off before the elites turn on themselves.
Bob Its just like medieval Europe , When these scum have pillaged other Kings and Barons in other countries then they turn on each other to try and steal each others sh**it , Using us as their cannon fodder of course :) .
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@@1LaOriental YT censorship is getting worse. Virtually every YT comment critical of the western oligarchy has replies that are censored. They are severing communication links between similar minds. You know the truth that they don't want people to know by the things that they censor from what you write.
This really was a masterclass by Bikrum on the application of world-systems theory to contemporary geopolitics. Super super insightful discussion.
Excellent interview and discussion! 👍👍👍👍Mr. Bikrum👏👏👏👏
Ranya Kalek is so intelligent, sympathetic and smart, i love her sincere smile. I can assure her pure heart is immense, without any doubt.
I hope the Global South realizes that there are some significant and real cracks in the Collective West's imperialistic and hegemonic structure and this can certainly be the Global South's opportunity to fight and win their fair place in the world.
Lovely to see you again Beautiful Rania 😍 🤩
I am already a huge fan of this show, but this has to be one of the best episodes you have done! I have been following this subject for a while and was very aware of the factors around trade deals and the nature of sanctions and how Americas economic plundering was being erased from narratives as we escalated wars, but I learned so many new things in this episode! Thank you both for such a thorough and well-informed conversation❤
Another banger, thanks rania and Bt news, thanks and keep up the great work
Very important discussion, 💯 % support
That's a great point Rania makes about the apparent inability of "the west"TM to recognise that sanctions on the 3 countries with the largest oil reserves and in a truly free market the largest exporters will "negatively impact"(read destroy) their economies, potentially lead to widespread poverty and violently suppressed protest.
The "West" is blinded by greed and stupidity. No surprise that it finally caught up with them.
Thanks so much. Mr. Gill is an excellent teacher.
Ur analysis is highly appreciated! Thank you so much bro!
Great interview. I’d love to hear some of these western liberal academics refute any of this accounting.
In the 80s, Malaysia was independent for some time but British companies still controlled a considerable part of key colonial industries like plantations, which allowed the companies to not respect sovereignty of the country. The Malaysian government managed to effectively nationalise the plantation giant Guthrie through a sudden share buyout on the LSE, giving it majority shareholder control, ie using the West’s own capitalist rules, fair and square, rather than by decree. Of course after that they changed the rules on the stock exchange to prevent a repeat. They change their rules if they’re losing. Global South countries have to struggle to assert sovereignty against a stacked deck, all the time.
The fact of China has changed the design.
That’s why they hate China so much and so irrationally. I think they expected China to become like them once it industrialised and modernised. Converted to neoliberal capitalism, like Japan. But China kept their own worldview. And that worldview makes an escape hole for the captured countries in their economic imperialist design.
Thè law of diminishing returns sets in as sanctions hits too many nations!
Great guest and interview. Thank you, Rania. I must follow this gentleman more. You two have covered so much and connected it all with eloquent and persuasive logic. The blindness of the Wesr, as Mr. Gill says, is so incredible because so obviously self-destructive. And much due to the deflecting of US pain and suffering, for now, primarily to Europe and the UK.
Thanks so much for this. So much important important information discussed here. Corporate media fails us.
“These are former colonial powers, but they still live in the paradigm of colonial philosophy. They are accustomed to living at the expense of others. And they still cannot get rid of this paradigm in their practical daily politics,” Putin stated.
Extremely important and amazing interview! ❤️❤️❤️
Your questions are great...I like the format that you create and follow. But its really the content...quite 'spot on.'
Please do a show on Haiti alone. The role of US & the West in Haiti. You could also consider a show on DRC - Western plunder of DRC currently. Thank you Rania.
please invite Bikrum Gill again!!!!!
This is an amazing interview. Congratulations Rania Khalek for finding such a phenomenal guest.
No only your last question wasn't silly, but to picture a new future out of capitalism frame, is both neccessary and useful. I have a strong intuitive sense that to challenge the 3 most global threats to humanity, nuclear war, climate catastrophe and technological disruption, this and next generation must proceed to Socialism and enter the real history of mankind! Your guest is amazing and you are as always 🙏💐💝
A great session indeed. Thanks much.
Rania always listen too your program you and your guests always bring out the truth keep up your good work you come out 100%
This Bikram Gill guy is soooo impressive.... Wish we could hear more from him....
Excellent presentation 😊👍
Stay blessed stay Safe 🙏.
Respects and Regards from Pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰
Mr. Bikrum is a true Intellectual, objective, rational,critical and with deep understanding
The Global south against the west...
It's the global south vs the colonial west
You are both so right about the importance of multipolarity. Brian Becker criticises the notion on the rationale that a multipolar world in the early 20th century lead to two world wars. I digress, however, because both those conflicts arose in a pre-nuclear weapons era, which have been a real game changer in global power conflict. Moreover, I cannot see how any room for the emancipation of the global South can occur without multipolarity. I agree, a multipolar world is not the end goal, but it is an essential first step towards construction of a better and more just world.
Theres no way a unipolar world could ever possibly be a good thing. Thats too uneven and unnatural.
Excellent broadcast!……….and brilliant guest!
Love your work, Rania.
Thank you ❤️ I learned a lot.
I’m excited to listen to this. It’s really great to see Bikrum Gill finally on the show!
Edit: yeah, you need to have him on more often. What an incredible discussion.
An excellent discussion.
Thank you for this. Its very enlightening and informative.
Thanks for being honest and trustworthy ...
He’s not wrong.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism. Read Lenin. It is the US-led system since world war 2. Russia is not imperialist, it is the resistance against imperialism
Rania, you truly have the brightest people on. Thank you.
These kind of videos' should be used in schools to educate young people fron an early age. Will be buying these books for our family.
This program qualifies for at least 30 credit hours.... So a year worth of tuition fees saved..... 😊 Wonderful stuff, Rania..... Keep it up
Khalek and Bikrum's excellent critique of erasing the history of China being subjugated and colonized, especially through Hong Kong, also applies to the shameful coverage by Democracy Now show with Amy Goodman.
Great informative discussion thanks 🙏
Excellent!
This dude is on fire 🔥 great interview.
What China has is manpower & which itself is a power.
Great history lesson taught today.
Wonderful discussion
Very valuable discussion 🎉
Just clarify an often asked question why China is socialist. China is a socialist country in a few important ways:
1. All urban lands belong to the state and rural lands to the co-op. The ownership of land is the ultimate tax lever in the hand of the state - or its people
2. China’s economy consists of 60% private and 40% public. State enterprises including banks do not have profits as its sole goal. Instead, they are anti-cyclical tools for managing economic cycles. Thus it misses the mark when some say China’s banks are insolvent or its 40000km high speed rail system is operating at a loss or the hundreds of modern bridges reaching into mountainous remote regions are a waste of money.
They may only appear to be not profitable when measured in the narrow scope of the entity but beneficial in the societal perspective.
3. Its governing body has long range state planning every 5 years. Each planning cycle has extensive iterative consultations with many stakeholders. Capital has a role but doesn’t / can’t dominate the state policies. Capital is not above the state, as often seen in the west. Last year the state ordered Ant-group to stop its world-record beating IPO, dismantled an entire industry of school exam preparation, ordered online gaming to be limited in hours for teenagers are good example. Other success stories in long range planning includes Beidou (Chinese GPS), its space station, its C919 civilian aircraft competing with airbus and boeing, its military rapid ship building capability, technologies such as ultrasonic weapons DF-17/21/26 that achieves A2/AD against American aircraft carriers i the region. The list goes on.
4. China’s state governance makes a distinction between public opinions and public interests. The public opinion can change on a whim, easily manipulated by media narratives and limited by peoples knowledge and skills. They can deviate from what is in the public interest significantly. Good governance means do what’s good for the public interest, not catering to the public opinions as often is the case in the west.
5. China’s civil servant sector has an extensive talent scouting and promoting process to ensure the smartest people with extensive work experience to gain important responsibilities. The process not unlike a big corporation promoting from within. Many politicians in the west would simply not make the mark in the Chinese system. China’s politicians are generally dull in their speech but focused on delivery because public speech skills are not valued as in the west. See this TED talk: th-cam.com/video/s0YjL9rZyR0/w-d-xo.html
The educated deserves more honest commentary like what this video offers. Thanks
29:03 this right here. Great interview! 👍👍👍
The US has been in 251 conflicts since 1991
What a brilliant analysis!
Really interesting talk .... especially about China
think Bikrums analysis is spot on great guest thanks Tania, maybe you can have him back to discuss India China/Pakistan tensions give me a perspective on this important part of the globe
Great outline of current Colonialism. Please do a new interview
I would love to listen to a discussion btw Michael Hudson and Bikrum Gill!