How To Replace and Upgrade Car Speakers (Remove Rivets, Custom Mounts)
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- Learn how to replace the speakers in your car or truck. The factory speakers in most VWs are installed with rivets. Learn how to easily drill out rivets, and a better way to install upgraded car speakers. Also learn hot to modify the factory MK4 tweeter housing to fit an upgraded tweeter#HumbleMechanic #r32
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0:00 Introduction
0:13 Remove Door Panel
3:27 Drilling rivets remove lower speaker
5:38 Remove tweeter
5:58 Choosing the right speakers
9:02 Custom tweeter mounts
12:17 Speaker accessories and sound deadening
14:32 Proper speaker install
16:12 Properly install rivnuts
18:50 Installing sound deadening
22:24 Wiring woofer
23:55 Wiring Tweeter
25:37 Installing Tweeter
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basically convinced me to just take it to a shop lol
Factsssss
Lol my fat ass is getting bored to do that and pay somebody to do it
yep
Y’all weak af, no motion
Yeah like all vehicles are tge same or something 😂
Ford: "Let's mount our car speakers with screws."
Chevy: "Let's mount our car speakers with screws."
Dodge: "Let's mount our car speakers with screws."
Honda: "Let's mount our car speakers with screws."
Nissan: "Let's mount our car speakers with screws."
Mazda: "Let's mount our car speakers with screws."
Volkswagen "LETS MOUNT DAS SPEAKERS WITH RIVETS BECAUSE VE ARE GERMAN"
Hahahhahahhahahahahha
Same company who thinks an oil pan in plastic is a good idea... ^^
Chris Hernandez Toyota mounts speakers with rivets. It’s horrible.
My buddy’s scion and Kia have Riveted speakers in the front
@@Ipodman9 Haha, I guess I should of done a little more research.
I didn’t have any plans on changing the speakers but now I do
Likewise..... hahaha.
So true:)))
OK
Assuming that the shops almost closing
I am thinking of making a short "quick speaker replacement" video... What do yall think?
I’ll watch anything you post haha
@@mercury0214 thank you
Very good idea, mate. Thanks
Something short and generic would be a great intro to working on cars for the unfamiliar out there. I started with a stereo upgrade...VR6 swap three months later. Maybe not just speakers but also DIN head unit. Lots of people want bluetooth in old cars.
Changing speakers for beginners
It’s so satisfying to see someone who knows how to easily disconnect every little connector
Haha I have a little practice
I'm doing this project this summer too, this couldn't be more helpful! Looking forward to seeing the stand alone amp install next
Just have to say, I love the sectioning of the video. Top production quality.
Your videos are getting better and better.
Thanks! It takes some time but I like it too
@@HumbleMechanic I wanna upgrade my premium Infinity speaker system in my 2015 Hyundai sonata. The system has the 400w amp. Speakers are 6.5" any recommendations? I already installed a sub and mono amp. So just trying to run the new speakers off the factory amp.
Any feedback is appreciated
Thank you ahead of time
Thanks for the video. It really helped me to replace the Dynaudio speaker on my Gti. I couldn’t find any pop rivets that large, and didn’t want to add anything to the back of the speaker bc it’s OEM, so I used your idea of glued bolts. Worked wonderfully.
I’m so glad I have an r32 mk4 anyway, but even more so with all these great tutorials!!
YASSS!!! The goodies are coming big time on the black one. She needs some love!
It's amazing how many small tricks and how-tos I learn from each of your videos. Thanks!!
Good video! One other thing you can do with the extra circle of sound deadening material: cut it out intact (a full circle) and stick it directly to the outer door skin behind the speaker. It'll help absorb the back wave of the speaker and deaden that panel a little bit. $.02
Thank u SOOOO MUCH for this video dude! Exactly what I needed.
Fun tip. Whenever you remove a door panel, when you place it back, test the door handle and the lock knob BEFORE closing the door. Share the tip
Great tip
Always use all three hands as shown in the video :D
There is an alternative to using rivnuts or rivets; that would be a HI-LOK fastener. This is a blind bolt with an internal hex on the end of the shank, allowing you to install the nut and counterhold the bolt from the same side. These are used very commonly in commercial aviation, so commonly that sometimes they fall on the floor of the hangar and roll, roll away, they roll so far some of them end up securing the wheel house liners on my Cabrio.
Hahahha awesome.
I agree, I think the Monsoon system was great. I like how you want to keep it looking OEM. I even put an iPhone adapter to the CD Changer port because I didn't want to change out the head unit.
My first time on your channel: it’s nice to see a high quality install explained in depth. 👍🏼
Thank you!!!
In addition to a foam gasket for the backside of the speaker, I also highly recommend a thick foam ring for the front side of the speaker to fit against the backside of the door panel grill. This really helps direct sound through the grill instead of it bouncing and reverberating in between the door frame and door panel. This made a surprising difference on my Honda Fit, before it got totaled in a hit-and-run.
Nice! That would mimic the OEM seal
Hope you weren’t the hit and runner lol
you are a good man, HM.... super appreciate the mk4 stuff you keep putting up. Cheers.
I am coming back to this video now that I have put in some customization. Spent 2 years updating and restoring my 04" Passat 1.8T 5-Speed Wagon. I still have more to do, but I now have the confidence to invest in non-mechanical upgrades. This last year, I've replaced the Non-Monsoon system as it's a GL Model and installed a 7 inch Maxspeedingrods Android Head unit because it has everything a audiophile needs as well as plays movies. With the extra Yellowtop Optima battery and a battery isolator in the rear running true zero and double zero gauge power wire, I am running an Orion XTR750.4 to my current stock components (sounds amazing but it's still 18 y.o.) and I have a CT-SOUNDS 1000.1D ran to a single 10" CT Tropo 2ohm wired to 1 ohm in a proper sized sealed box. I have a dual 12" box as I've learned from the car show scene last year that two 12s look more esthetically pleasing than the single 10" currently. Not to mention, I can take it to stereo competitions since I'm technically pushing a total of 2000 watts RMS and nothing rattles outside at all because of their awesome sound deadening. So now it's time 2 finalise the setup and upgrade/rewire the factory hookups. After all, the wiring is a good 18-19 years old (living in Wisconsin). It's been a fun project. Thankfully, that is the last upgrade I have planned for the interior as I don't wish to shake it to pieces. After that comes uv blocking tint, front mount intercooler, 4 bar fuel reg, catback exhaust, and a tune. Then I will be a happy camper. LoL
Another AWESOME video Charles. I want to upgrade the speakers in the Corrado someday so I'm sure this video will come in handy. Keep the great content coming
Nice video! Good tip about locking the calipers at a fixed position. I have the same pair, and never realized that they can be locked in position like that.
That's a nice-looking factory speaker.
Awesome job as usual Charles. Will say I’ve done my fare share of removing and installing mkiv door panels and speakers so I pretty much well verse with everything u did. But it was still fun to watch. Aaaand even funnier is I just did the same upgrade with tweeters and subs on my mkiv. But with hertz instead. Very clean install. You would love it.
No one does videos as great as yours man. Well done.
I just replaced my NB1 Miata door speakers with the M800's from 3rd Millenium. HUGE, MASSIVE improvement in sound quality over the old POS stock Bose speaker units with their weird inverted cones and 0.5-ohm impedance. I used their Miata-specific mounting rings and also their baffles to help keep moisture away from the speakers.
I need to see what I have. I know they did some speaker upgrade but I didn’t pay much attention. I wear headphones haha
@@HumbleMechanic 13:45 those styrofoam baffles are exactly what 3rd Millenium sells for the Miata. They have you cut out half of the "cup" part so that the back of the speaker cone isn't sealed up but still keeps the rain out, and it won't interfere with the Miata windows.
Amazing video, you covered everything that I wondered. Thank you
would’ve loved this video a whole month ago but i just did this the other day!!!🙏🏾
Wow, very detailed. Thanks!!!
This channel deserves so many more subscribers.
The stock speakers in the mk4 sounded alright with just and after market head unit, didn't last a day once i threw my JL audio hd 600/4 😅 it's a great car for car audio installs so much room for extra wiring in the factory locations, also well sealed door panels. Miss my little golf ❤️
I've taken apart a few of the Volkswagens crossovers in the wild the quality is amazing that's some solid material solid build same with the speakers monsoon and then Dayna audio speakers wow
Wow the filming from inside the door when you cut the sound deadening material is 🔝
Great content, top notch production, loved it!
Great video! Thanks for posting this. It helped me a lot. 🤙
My Mk7 just surprised me with the dreaded rear speaker leak. Although this was a MK4, your video was very helpful and informative :) thanks!
Excellent video and workmanship.
This guy is such a professional!!
love love love this vid. want to do this on my both mk4s
Amazing how fun this guy is making it look 🤩
You always do a great detail to everything. You my man are very talented in everything. 👍
Love the detail in this video
Wow!! 🤟👌👏 I want more videos!! Thanks for sharing
The monsoon speakers are actually very good with sound output and had better and cleaner bass then my kicker speakers
You're a Legend helping lotta people
Remember when car companies used to put in removable speaker grilles so you didn't have to pull the entire door trim panel off?
man... good times... good times.
Ol car...YEP! So easy, took two minutes to swap a speaker out. New car.... Yep.... but the RIVETS were offset to the grille... had to take off the doorcard anyway :@
I remember that the speakers in my Mk 2 sounded like telephone speakers. To be honest, I can live with the way they installed the factory speakers on the Mk 4 since they sound quite alright. Well, for a base model Golf, that is at least. I don't really feel the need to change them; High Fidelity audio equipment is at home.
Good job Charles, very detailed:):)
The best looking stock speaker I have ever seen
Great video, but you missed one thing. Your new speaker sits flush against the door carrier but the factory speaker assembly raises the woofer cone 1-2" off of the surface. The factory speaker also comes with that plastic/rubber trumpet ring that bridges the gap between the speaker and door panel. It is important that speakers are not mounted deep inside the door panel so that all of your sound gets into the cabin and not trapped inside the door panel. A popular solution in the car audio world is making spacer rings using MDF. There may also be an off the shelf solution as well.
That would for sure make for a better sound profile.
@@HumbleMechanic any seat-cushion, sofa, bed foam cut into a ring can be used to fill that gap & work wonders for distortion from edge mode diffraction.
I was thinking the same thing rebel.. that’s something that should really be used
The sound comes out the front & only a small portion of lower mid frequencies escape into the door , that mid frequencie isnt much sought after lol. Baffles wont project a noticable increase in volume forward, just slightly lesss volume backwards if that makes any sense. Baffles are great imo for anti rattle properties for sure,.
I just recently bought those Matco wire strippers they are so worth the money!!
That's a hell of a good job Boss!
Detailed video. Appreciate very much
Thanks for the video. Will buy some of the items with links below...
Great Video
Greetings from Germany ✌️
great informative video! nice work!
Thanks this is exactly what I needed to know
I used the old speaker mount and just fitted them to the plastic riser. There was some modifying to cut out the old speaker and the end result was OEM quality fit and finish.
Tweeter install spot on, but there are some issues with the woofer.
The OEM speaker has a raised section to push the speaker closer to the door grille - mounting it straight to the panel leaves a big gap, for sound energy will be lost between inner door and door card - better mounting on a ring of MDF or plastic speaker rings
Next to the mount points, is there an inner set of mount holes that look to be open to the rear?
Water gets everywhere inside VAG doors, The foam splash guard is good, but I would have cut off everything at the bottom that could collect water.
Or you can buy plastic ring adapter
www.google.com/search?q=golf+mk4+speaker+adaptors&client=ms-android-samsung&prmd=isvn&sxsrf=ALeKk01ZaRgYnoSAB3I7lQ7zYCXWUwLEWQ:1596872890700&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi8-JqLj4vrAhXL-yoKHcxaDS0Q_AUoAXoECAsQAQ&biw=412&bih=718&dpr=3.5
orlando barron I’ve been thinking of upgrading the speakers on my car. Are 3D printed (PLA) speaker mounts/adapters any good? Im okay with modeling them myself.
Yep a spacer or those foam things with tape
TheRandomMan - Hi you could print them, but you want to add mass and be as stiff as possible plus you won’t see them behind the door card - off the shelf MDF or with less mass plastic rings are really cheap I would just go for them - how about printing a grille for the tweeters? Curves, clips and mesh would be a nice project that you can see every day and be proud of.
orlando barron Yea, that would be nice. I only have white pla atm but a black honeycomb design would look good
Can’t wait to see the amp upgrade please
Thanks buddy.good explain
A quick tip as well when doing doorcards and interior work in general is to make sure the car is not ice cold, makes them crack almost just by looking at them.
Make sure your car isn’t stone cold on the inside and you’re making it way easier.
Man that’s gold!!! Cold plastic is sad plastic
HumbleMechanic Yes it is! Did it as a rookie mistake as my first months of apprenticeship, broke a window switch on a customer car as it was ice cold (and of course a part that we couldn’t get asap) Customer was luckily understanding and my boss understood me but I hated myself lol.
Also broke a door handle cover trying to pry it off on another cold car 2 years later. Long story short, not doing any interior jobs unless it’s a good inside temp in it
Yes, ok, he's lost control of his beard. But you can't deny that he knows his stuff when it comes to cars. Gotta love The Humble Mechanic.
Hell yeah, this was fun to watch. I wanna try this when I get some money because my front tweeter speaker is blown. So it makes music sound weird since a lot of my songs use stereo effects. RIP
Great video!
Not a bad guide, but a couple of things would make it better. Try to use screws with a lower profile head like countersunk or panhead. Those hex head machine screws might foul on the door trim panel in some cars. Also if the new speakers have screw mounting tabs that are open on the end like those Kickers, try to use larger washers to distribute the tightening force onto the speaker frame, instead of focusing the torque on those tabs.
Lastly, even if you don't know how to solder, the stock tweeter harness transplant makes a great starting point for learning how to solder. You can't really mess up catastrophically with just 2 wires which you have plenty of excess to trim off if you screw up the first few tries.
I used the stock amp speaker housing. Cut out the three braces that hold the stock speaker with cutting bit . Had no need to buy any type of aftermarket amplifier. Wiring speaker back into the housing was a little tricky. Works perfectly
Nice
Nice Work mate. ❤️❤️❤️
Really well done. I was wondering if you'd ever get into replacing the older speakers.
I'd definitely recommend getting a speaker woofer adapter extenders (I don't know the exact term) so that the new aftermarket speakers in the door are extended into the grill openings on the door panels like the OEM speakers did (not sitting flush in the speaker openings). Otherwise the sound is not focused into the door panel grills, but ends up spilling into the door panel cavity and muddles up the sound a little.
orlando barron explains it better in comments below...
Charles, totally off topic, can you also make a video soon on changing fluid/filter in the 7-speed DSG for the GTI/R MK7? Thannnnks!!! :) :) :)
Perfect video, greetings from Czech Republic
thank you!
Such great detailed videos. I currently own 4 Volkswagens and if I need any info and your videos pop up in a search, I always know your's will answer my questions.
Please do a video on saggy mk4 door cloth! My poor GLI needs that done.
Thank you!!! I 100% will be doing that video. My blue R32 panels are not happy. Luckily the black ones are nice. So I swapped them. But still need to fix the blue one
Thanks for this and great job with the camera angles! Also, 1:45 probably every tech's dream to have a 3rd hand come in when needed. Lol
Mighty Car Mods have perfected that.
27:40 That brushed alloy finish is so awesome. :D
I just put a focal on both front sides and Mann it sound amazing 👏
Dude, you grew a third arm for this video, that's so cool.😃
That’s how you flaterate
I’m so glad my soul ev uses screws from the factory. I had to deal with rivets on my scion xA.
Just planning this upgrade for my MKIV Jetta and was recommended this video. Coincidence or has Alexa been listening in on my conversations again. Regardless, awesome tips...thanks.
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I would take this opportunity to:
1- cover the bottom edge of door inside with bitumen layer (rust preventing)
2- sound proofing the inside of external door panel to eliminate rattling.
Could you eleberate on 2
@I’m_just_a_basic_azian
1- Remove the door panel. Pay attention to electrical wiring for center lock, power windows, and speakers.
2- stick a bitumen square sheet (sound suppressor) behind the glass window. You may need to roll up the window to reach the outside door panel's internal surface.
Very good video nice details
Todo tan limpio y perfecto👍👍👍👍👍
Very good. Highly detailed
thank you!
Excellent video, Charles. Wish I coulda helped. Maybe next time.
Cheers my friend !
Look at Charles the audiophile! A stereo makes a huge difference on enjoying a vehicle, to me and a few others anyway.
Edit: yeeeeeeahh Second Skin!
Nice job
hey, Charles. I just want to add a bit info about coaxial speaker. the tweeter itself won't be distorted since they have built in high pass filter. even if the amp give full spectrum signal, the coax tweeter won't sounds as good either since the position would be much lower compared to the OEM position. the axis itself would result high attenuation since high frequency doesn't spread like low frequency. their dispersion is more narrower hence they should be pointed to the listener's ears (though, a slight off axis might be prefered)
so, yeah. if you wanna upgrade, use component speakers whenever it's possible. they're a lot more flexible to install and you're most likely able to achieve better sound stage compared to coax on car application.
100% on the position! For the distortion, maybe I used the wrong word? This am has a built in crossover, so it's only sending low tone to that OEM woofer. I hooked up the 2way speaker and the tweeter worked, but it was AWFUL.
@@HumbleMechanic it would sounds awful indeed. your amp might output some of the tweeter range. let's say your woofer amp give 20-2k and the coax tweeter works from 1k to 20k, the tweeter output got limited range from 1k to 2k. that's the reason why it sounds awful. you can't hear everything since the signal was limited
20:00 If you don't have a roller I used a small glass sauce bottle when I put in some deadening and it work as a cheap 1 time solution. It was a hot sauce bottle so I was able to triple recycle it
Series comes at a perfect time. Entire interior out due to evap, heater core replacement.
No dash, seats, carpet, pillar trim. Might as well upgrade audio...
Thanks for sharing.
NICE! I need to do that too, not for heater core, but cover blend doors
@@HumbleMechanic I forgot mention, while evap was out, I used your method from a previous video on the blend door. Hopefully it holds up for a few years.
Speaker question: I've read, the replacement speaker needs to be close (spacer) to the panel. Just like the factory speaker, so you don't loose sound to the inside of the panel.
Do you get full sound in your current setup? Is a spacer needed?
Thanks
Another amazing video! Thank you sir! Heard anything about Soumatrix speakers btw? Heard those are crazy good! But, crazy high priced too! Lol
The perfect video doesn’t exi-
Ideally you want to match the crossovers with the drivers as the filters would be designed around the frequency response of those drivers. By using the original crossovers with the new drivers, it may result in a dip in the measured frequency response at the crossover point, and some distortion. Great video none the less.
I just did this two days ago in my MK4 VR6 GTI. Spent some time trying to find this exact video.
Dang. Lol how’d they come out?
HumbleMechanic well I didn’t take into account the monsoons crossover, guess the work vans getting a new set of speakers. Otherwise it went really well! I went with some amazon speaker adapters that had the polarity reversed so I had to note that. I’ll be back in the panels this week, and make good use of the dremel on those tweeter housings.
I have the Vw UP! Beats edition so don't need to replace speakers as I have a 6.1 system 😏. Had the mk4 Bora/Jetta and always wanted to upgrade the speakers back in the day so really could have done with this video 10 years ago 😂😂😂
Must admit, was expecting a lot more in-depth speaker upgrade than just adding new speakers with adaptors. Looking forward to an amp install and making a nice setup with a decent sound. Hurry up as I want to copy you! 😝
if you have any questions let me know, I'm in the home stretch of doing a full audio upgrade (speakers, sub, amps, radio, battery relocate, alternator, etc)
Check out the "Car Audio Fabricator" channel.
Very good.
@HumbleMechanic Does the harness with connector for the woofer come with the Kicker set or did you have to buy that seperate? Thank you!
I too use my rolly chair for that. I used it to support the sliding door on an Odessey as well.
I was going to do speakers in my truck but
A) I dont plan to keep it very long. Its a 4x4 w/AT and V6, I'm looking for a 2WD w/MT and I4 that I can lower. This truck is the opposite of what I want.
B) I replaced my radio, and wow what a different that made. My next truck will get a speaker upgrade, though, along with the new radio.
For most cars a radio and speaker upgrade is really affordable and makes a HUGE difference
@@HumbleMechanic very much. I thought my speakers were the problem, but who couldve guessed the Ford factory radio from 2002 had poor sound quality. haha
Good morning my friend, I am a humble engineer from Corinth Greece. I watch you and admire you for the perfection of your knowledge and for your successful diagnoses. Well done, well done, well done. My question is a question that I have been looking for an answer for years now and no one and no bibliography has the answer. Why the impellers on the fans of some cars, have different distances from each other ??. This is the question, I can not give a substantiated answer. Please, if you know the answer, give me at least your opinion. I admire you, George engineer from Corinth Greece. Thanks for being well.
So, you probably won't read this comment, I'm planning on upgrading front speakers on my mk4 and I found out that there are actually speaker adapters for mk4, so speakers come a bit out, just like oem speakers, so if anyone is planing on doing this, be careful that your speakers are not too deep or buy adapters which are not really expensive, like 12 dollars. But great video, love your work
I read all of them. ;)
Very nice explanation on the type of speakers to get. I've made a mistake by getting a speaker with an inbuilt tweeter and as you've said, sound will not improve. My car comes with 6 speakers. 2 tweeter at the front dash and 4 door speakers. If I wanted more bass but still want to keep mid and high range sound from for the rear, which speaker type and setup sound I go for?
Great looking work, loved how you cut the hole out in slices and bent the deadener back, very clever. Nice job #HumbleMechanic
Thanks! Is that not normally how people do it? 😂🤷♂️
@@HumbleMechanic Oddly, they usually cut the whole circle out. Your method was much more effective and less wasteful.