Briggs & Stratton , 8-16 hp.Briggs , Convert from points to electronic ignition , Sears Suburban
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- Sears suburban , 8-16 hp.Briggs , Convert from points to electronic ignition. BRIGGS & STRATTON IGNITION COIL NEW STYLE 398811. I have changing my briggs and stratton engines from points to electronic ignition . 8 - 16 hp cast iron single cylinder ic horizontal engines all take same coil. armature . Briggs and stratton points and condenser. when installing coil , it must be put on backwards to work. I have converted my sears suburban SS14 to run with out points for as cheap as buying new points and condenser .Now my garden tractor with the cast iron briggs starts very easy. eliminate points briggs and stratton engine. small engine , wtbm123
I set my coils with a business card. Never had a problem with it in 33 years.
Yes , Anything like that will work . This way has worked for me for years . Thanks for stopping in and commenting.
The old engine starts and sounds great. Nice work Terry.
Thank you
Nice job Terry, good fix for getting rid of those old points
Thanks for stopping by .
Nice to have the modern technology for reliability. Good info.
And cheaper than replacing points and condenser.
Thanks for the video! Helped me convert my SS15 and it now runs like a champ.
Great to hear!
I love my Vessel drivers. They are flat out a must have in my opinion. With my Simplicity and Allis-Chalmers, the engine HAS to come out to change the coil. Great tips and video Terry! "Cool" Zip~
It is one of those tools that after having one , you wonder what took so long getting one
Exactly right! Like Battery Impact Drivers! Zip~
And a Shake and break , finally just had to get a new one of those , they are great
@@wtbm123 Ratcheting wrenches, what I would give to have those 40 years ago.
If you cut slots in the housing bolt holes you can just loosen the bolts a little bit and pull the housing off. Some of those old tractors are really tight to work on. Love the patina on that housing too, dont know how they got so many colors but looks great.☺
Yes i have cut a few . Yes it appears to have NO Lack of Paint . lol
@@wtbm123 On my simplicity I made it 2 piece so just the top 6 inches comes off. Easier than pulling the engine and driveshaft and you can clean of grass and mouse nests and change the magneto in minutes.
Very interesting. Good explanation on what you are doing. I remember setting point gap on my old dirt bike.
I like that screwdriver. That engine sure starts good with that coil.
They seem to work good so far . Thanks for stopping by
Thank You for information and advice. I use paint marker on anything I keep and also put tag on it with as much information I can &when
Just can’t remember every thing
I do that on some of the parts , but i should do it to all . Thanks for stopping by
Great video for future reference!
Thank you
Nice conversion Terry.
Thank you
Good setup. I generally change over to electronic coils. Too much hassle with the points.
Agreed
you normally wouldnt have to flip them. I figured the reason it works for you tho - Normally the magnet on the flywheel is south on the outside north on the inside (towards the center of your flywheel. ) You can test this with a compass If you put a compass next to your flywheel normally the south of the compass would point to the flywheel. Next time you pull it apart I bet a compass north would point to the outer of the flywheel magent with yours. Funny thing is I thought you had to send the flywheel to briggs & statton to get the polarity changed. You fixed it by flipping the magneto. I actully love it. There was a year or two these North outers came out. You found the most simple fix what is always the best.
Not all are the same , but flipping coil over is sorta like switching the poles . I have several running this way . I like points , but seems like points do not last as long as they once did
@@wtbm123 you have seen several of these 16hp cast iron Briggs. Was wondering if you have seen an oil pan with two ears hanging from the bottom of the oil pan about 6 inches apart with about 1 inch holes in them? This came from a tractor that had a sickle mower on it. It is a 1974 model. I am needing a regular oil pan for it so I can mount the engine to a flat surface.
@@wtbm123 Yes points fire at much slower speeds, so if they are working good and your battery is near dead, you can usually start the tractor with one rotation or less. Or a bump start.
WoW. I learned some cool stuff here
Thanks for stopping by ,
When I buy screwdrivers I prefer JIS as it does better on phillips then phillips on JIS. Of course I have both, but I seem to lose when I need to use more often: JIS.
And i can hit it with a hammer and still be ok ,
Most i easy understand how to fix , Im asian and my English not perfect . Thank you for leak carburater fixed and ignigtion for my 3,5,10, hp briggsss
Good upgrade :-D
My B&S push mower has the same coil type, very reliable :-D
And cheaper than replacing the points and condenser
Looks like a winner
Running good now , thanks for stopping in
JIS all the way, don't use any Phillips drivers now.
I bought almost $300 of JIS drivers and bits from Vessel tools a couple years ago.
A lot of Chineseium stuff has JIS screws...just no dimple in the head though.
I love that screwdriver .
Great video Buddy!
Awesome info!
nice fix
Would it be worth it to slot the fan housing bolt holes that are hard to get to and that way you just need to back the bolts a a little and slide the housing off.?.
Hopping not to remove it ever again , lol
When you put the belt flywheel on the flywheel. The Aluminum part that the belt rides on, besides the two bolts screwing into the flywheel, and the two washers on the boats is there anything else that belongs on there to space it out? Because when I put my shroud on, it rubs and scrapes just a little bit. So I was wondering since you took it apart I know you're going to have to remember, do you remember anything else besides the two washer and bolts when you mount it on to the flywheel?
flywheel . lock washer and center nut . then the belt pulley and two bolts . maybe the shroud is bent a wee bit
Should be good to go now!
Yea , points always fail at the worse times
good morning.,,,,What size belt is generator motor to the engine big pully on the engine?,,,,Thenk you,,,,,Great video!!!!
Gates 6736 i believe i used . 3/8 X 36 , but on one of mine i had to use a 1/2 wide belt , Think the pulleys were worn
@@wtbm123 Thank you,,,,,Thats what i used,,,,1971 ss14 sears tractor,,,,It was my dads tractor.,,,,50 years old,,,,Thanks again
right on man !
Thanks
I just started a project, custom M8 Sears riding tractor unknown year on everything it's a pull start. Trying to figure out how and where to get parts. With your knowledge would that coil work on a manual start M8?
Not sure on that , I know if it has a 3 legged coil , this will NOT work . 3 legged coil , you can remove a clip and slide the coil part off the laminated metal part
I've goat a 1969 12 horsepower B&S I'm trying to do this too because the points plunger is shot. I went to my local parts guy and told him I need the B&S coil Part # 398811, he crossed it to a rotary 7286. The coil looks totally different and I cannot get it to spark. Did he sell me the wrong coil or just a bad one? I believe it's totally the wrong coil but I've had a few people say it looks like the older version of the 398811. I can't find a 398811 that looks anything like Rotary #7286 which is what I have.
I show some coils in the video . If it has the metal going over the top of coil like the points one did , I personally have never gotten one of those to work
Bang the end of the screw driver and the shaft will rotate backwards 12 degrees. What's the name of that one Terry.
Vessel Megadora 980 Impacta P2x150 #2 JIS Cross Point Impact Screwdriver. I love it it is just like a screwdriver , until you bring out a hammer . People prob think , Wow he is hitting his screw driver with a hammer , lol
@@wtbm123 thanks terry.
cool
Yep Cool , lol
What size is the bolts going to the coil, I have a 1976 16hp Briggs and lost them when I replaced all the seals and haven’t had any luck after 3 trips to Lowe’s
some reason i was thinking #10 - 32 , but not sure . 93381 is the original part number . I believe 691061 is the updated part number . If do not find the right one in hardware store , ebay , amazon and other online stores have them
Where would you find replacement screws for thoseI found the right threads and it's one of those screws that you could put a Philips or a flat head in and I put a washer and I lock washer on. It didn't come with screws when I got it. It looks nice but do you think it'll hold up to the vibration or get the right ones?
They will prob be ok , I do not remember the size , but i have replaced those with allen head screws .From our local hardware and never had a issue .
@@wtbm123 thanks buddy
That first coil is a cdi coil. It didn't work because of the flywheel.
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I have one it'll fire and it's getting fuel but still won't crank any ideas
If you mean you have spark , and fuel getting in , but not start . may try at idle , and make sure carb butterfly goes closed when throttle is in idle position . None of mine will start unless at idle
Where did you get the coil from. I have looked but can't find one.
Amazon or ebay
I thought you had to send off the flywheels to briggs and have them repolarized for them to work?Im going to try to this.You put the coils on right.It WILL shear keys after keys and kick back and break ropes.Ive been there and done that.I like points if the world goes to hell.Points will work.
if you send briggs your flywheel any imperfections they keep it and wont send it back, like a chip on a fin anything minor then you dont have a flywheel anymore, just flip the coil like in vid
I agree there still very reliable and I keep several extra points and cond sets for about every thing I own
Wondering were you were.
Was wounded a little , but should be going full speed here soon .
Where did you buy that coil?
Amazon and ebay also has them . Some local shops or napa could also probably get them
Is that a model 19?
No . Not sure what coil a 19 takes , but this will not work with a three legged coil
Let me be honest. And you be honest too. You CAN NOT FLIP THE COIL AROUND. IT WILL NOT START. I guarantee you anything that it didnt start. It just turned over but didnt start. Have to put it on the way the coil says.
Come here , we will take off the shroud on 4 engines , and you can see for your self . Now on a three legged coil , you can not do this swap . .
@@codyswilleyWe literally saw it start in the video, 😂 what am I missing?
@@wtbm123 I dont know wtf I was thinking. I must have been tired when I commented this. I'm sorry
So I have the weldanpower 225 acdc from 1984 same engine Briggs stratton cast iron.......it shit the bed yesterday could you point me in the right direction?
I give try to turn it over @ 1:00
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