DualSense Edge In-Depth Review: It's Great But There's Two Problems
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ค. 2024
- After years of third party Pro controllers for PS4 and PS5, Sony has finally released an official OEM version themselves, and it's called the DualSense Edge. These controllers can be pretty pricey, and this one is no different coming in at $199.99 USD. So let's breakdown all the software and hardware features this thing is packing. Is the DualSense Edge worth it? Maybe, but it's not without it's issues. Just like me, but we're not exactly here to go over that right now. GOSH.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
0:28 - Unboxing, Everything Included
1:21 - DualSense Design Differences
2:32 - Changing Stick Cap
2:59 - Replacing Stick Module
3:53 - Back Button Attachments
4:09 - Adjustable Trigger Stops
5:00 - Custom Profiles
5:26 - Stick Sensitivity & Deadzones
6:11 - Trigger Deadzones
6:28 - Function Shortcuts
8:00 - Using The DualSense Edge
10:41 - Problem 1: Smaller Battery
11:39 - Problem 2: Only Two Back Buttons
12:08 - Final Thoughts
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Biggest problem for me is price
For that price I should be getting to chose a color
Same. It looks like a fantastic controller with great software support. However, the price makes no sense in the UK, equivalent to $260 :(
Makes sense to me. 3rd party controllers that do less are anywhere from $170 - $300
tbh this controller is targeting professional players, for example rocket league players, i know a bunch of them that use this controller and they say its amazing, they let me borrow it for a day and i couldn't really see an acvtual difference between my dualsense and the edge gameplay wise, of course it feels better, but i couldn't really use the triggers and whatnot because im not a very good player, and im not willing to completely change my controls, but when speaking to my friend, he definitely plays much better with the edge rather than the dualsense
Think about it as saving money in the long term, because you can swap the stick modules. Those are what usually go, and having to buy a whole new controller after a year would be disgusting.
Keep in mind that the original dualsense has now gone through 4 different iterations so it's always worthwhile waiting and getting a second or third version.
PS5 dualsense has only one iteration, hasn't it? I mean, not very likely (though I would be glad if otherwise) we will see a second Edge iteration with PS5, more likely they release it after PS6 comes out and its form factor will inherit PS6 dualsenses
@@vm1974-irkutsk yea I thought that too but apparently they've changed the triggers hinge and motor mechanism twice now as separate iterations. I have the v1 controller and the squeak from the spring drives me up the wall. Going to wait and get the edge but see if I can get an aftermarket battery 👌🏼
I know you were talking about internal batteries but DR1 Tech makes an external battery pack for the DualSense that looks legit. I wonder if it’s actually good.
Yeah that's something worth considering. Any small improvements won't likely amount to much but might be another good incentive to wait
Hey thanks for the reminder! I was going to grab this sooner rather than later but now I think I’ll hold off for a bit.
Two notes:
• The quick game chat volume and balancing functions work with the Steel Series: Arctis Pro (wireless) flawlessly.
• The cable lock works with the original usb-c cable that your console comes with. You do not have to use the braided cable that come with the controller.
Then there's a good chance that the volume controls work with the Arctis Nova Pro too.
@@Akrymir I have the Nova Pro and it works perfectly with that as well!
Yeah I have and use the Arctis Nova Pro Wireless, it works perfectly!
Do you need to be wired to the edge for the audio controls to work?
@@gojiraslim237 nope
This is one brilliant review right here. Most dedicated and comprehensive review about Controllers on TH-cam I’ve seen thus far. Keep it up Mystic👍
The most useful feature is the stick replacement. They should add that feature to default controller(maybe not the stick swap just the drift fix).
that why i am about to get it so i never have to buy another controller until it cant run while plugged in again the fact that you can lock the cable is also A1 feature
Mystic’s reviews are always thorough and informative. 👍🏻
Most comprehensive review of the controller I've seen on YT. Thank you
Its because those who pre-ordered it just got theirs a few days ago, a month in advance of all retailers if you preordered from Sony direct, so I'd expect to see more reviews too. This controller is absolutely worth it, & the setbacks are non issues for me,
Great video but if you want to a more comprehensive review, check out gamer heaven
Now I know to wait
@@K.Freeman Bruh u know you have no intention of getn one. U probably don't even have a PS5, you bot! Lol
@@3dgelord187 not with that poor battery life
So far I have had a very positive experience with mine. Im finding it difficult to go back
That’s my worry. I have so many controllers in different colors that I use. If I get an Edge those controllers I might be hard to go back.
@@marbd5259 same thing happened to me when I got elite on Xbox, I couldn’t play with OG controller anymore, the main issue was I got so used to playing without ever taking my fingers off the analog sticks it felt archaic to have to stop aiming to jump
@@marbd5259 just get a back paddle kit for the regular dualsense, save yourself the 100 bucks
I mean, the thing costs the same as 3 regular controllers. It better be a "positive" experience. But I'm not wasting my money on it.
The back buttons are so good with the added thumb caps, it’s perfect
Great review! Best one I’ve seen so far! Thank you for being honest and very detailed. Although, I wish the battery life was better than it is, I still can’t wait until mine arrives to try it out for myself.
This was, by far, the best review of the DualSense Edge I have seen on TH-cam. I'm still trying out the controller and so far I really like it. For many games, I have mapped L3 & R3 to the back buttons. This has really helped keep the pain down in my thumbs for those games calling for repetitive push downs on the analog sticks. My hope is that this product will hold up as I have already "lost" one controller due to stick drift.
I am going to treat myself to the Edge once my current house sale and purchase goes through (Hoping by end of May or June). Seeing your comment here, mapping the L3 & R3 to the back buttons is full on genius!
That‘s exactly how I use mine (L3, R3).
On the battery life: true, it can be too short.
On the single back button: I don’t mind, as is I have one finger one each trigger all the time, only the thumbs need move around.
this was the most comprehensive guide for this controller that I have come across so far. you mentioned many things that others have not and I appreciate that. thank you
Great review Mystic! Very thorough and concise, I was on the fence about picking this up but after watching this I am pretty much sold on it, thanks for this helpful video.
Hey Ryan been a long time subscriber but don’t usually comment but watch all the videos. I just wanted to say thank you for your great videos keeps us full of great news and info and you also get me playing and enjoying games I normally wouldn’t play. Again thank you for everything you do
Watching this speaks to how much I enjoy your stuff Mystic, ik the pro controllers aren’t for me but I always enjoy your breakdowns.
I skimmed through this via the chapters but I listened to the parts that I was looking for and you covered it very well. Great review overall.
Great video as usual ! I wonder with the edge and his new features if returnal will be a little easier now. Either way, I'll start this soon now with the edge
Thanks for the review so I can see it, how it performs and if it is really worth it.
What surprise me is, some of the "new" features could easily work on the standard DualSense.
I mean, limiting the range of the triggers could be done with the "adaptative" triggers capabilities.
Same for tuning the response curve of the sticks, which is only software related (and already in the PS5).
Sure that would limit the appeal to the Edge, but if it's only attractive because you withhold technically possible features on the lower end controller, that's because your higher end product is a bad product (or badly priced).
For that kind of price range, I would at least expect hall effect joystick. So far, the only reason replaceable joystick are attractive is because of stick drift, which should not be such a popular thing from the start.
literally creating the problem then sell you the solution
Who else offers Hall Effect sticks as standard? Would honestly like to know, as I am considering all enhanced controllers before I make a final choice.
@@kev1nno No, I'm looking specifically at Pro controllers for the PS5. I've already heard Hall Effect sticks are in the works from a 3rd Party, so I can afford to wait a few months for what I want. I already have controllers that work out well for my other platforms from various sources including Hori, who up until the DualSense were my favorites.
Right?? Smh Apple.. I mean Sony
When you remember Sega had hall effect joystick on the Dreamcast ... 😭
As for a hall effect PS5 controller, I don't know if any yet.
Gulikit has announced working on hall effect joysticks for the Edge, but their existing hall effect controller only work on PC and Switch.
6:39 what I've done with my Edge is name the profiles after what each back button is set to. For example, the X and circle button profile is labeled as "X O", X and square is "X []", X and triangle is "X /\", and so on.
Great review. Glad you showed the finger positions of the back buttons.
I bought one and wanted to find a good review to show my friend. Yours was perfect and addresses everything, including the headphone volume issues (which I hope will be fixed via patch) and the battery life. Keep up the good work, dude!
How is it holding up after a year. ?
For the domed back caps, you can actually press upwards from the controller handles and pressing it up when you want them rather than pushing your finger over to the opposite side of the dome and pressing it down.
The back button options are one that are easily accessible and one that are out the way until you need them.
:)
Wdym? By clicking the dome out of position?
This makes no sense at all. You can’t press from the bottom. It slides the buttons out. You really need to press on top of the buttons
Mystic, you’re the best at putting together a thorough review. I watched your video after I bought my new controller and it helped even more than trying to figure out a lot on my own.
Not my first pro controller, I was planning on getting this & your review has just definitely sold me on it!
I’ll keep this on my wishlist for the future. This controller looks really good. It’s a bit expensive but eventually i’ll get it.
I wish he would stop selling this controller to people who ‘dont want to use paddles/back buttons’ or to people who dont play competitive pvp games.. this is a pro controller, purely for people who want every single edge they can get, in games where every millisecond is priceless.
P.S. its gorgeous. Feels so nice.
Also, pro/competitive players play at desks in front of their monitor/console and dont need to play wireless (i’ve had my astro C40 for 2-3 years and never ran it wirelessly once)
@@phantasticmrphasma9874 is a noce controller, kind of expensive but you can replace the analogs which is amazing, also trigger stops i used to have that on my battlebeaver controller for ps4. I love those ps3 dualshock 3 analog sticks.
@@phantasticmrphasma9874 same here, i play on a monitor and my controller is always wired most of the time. Except when i’m playing a single player game. My headset though i use it wirelessly i don’t play on pc much, always preferred console instead.
@@chacazulo1987 i mean, its expensive, but if you compare it to the quality of the alternatives like top spec scufs, its not because you get more quality as well as software to configure the control from inside the PS5 system which is really cool. No other controller on playstation offers that. Even the case is high quality
Being able to swap out the sticks alone has me heavily considering picking one up. Imagine how much that could save in the long run on controller replacements. I suppose the back pedals could even be useful on those rare occasions I have switched to a temporary claw grip to make minor camera adjustments.
For me, making the sticks replaceable is mostly nullified by the fact that the battery is not replaceable. How much will the (already small) battery life degrade after a year of regular use? Sure, no stick drift, but your controller will only last 1-2 hours within time. I'm fine with the low capacity battery, but I need to be able to replace it...
@@turtlepowersf while it's not as easy as having a battery cover like on xbox, if it's the same as the normal dualsense it's pretty easy to replace the battery still and I've seen higher capacity replacements as well.
Apparently GuliKit is working on Hall Effect stick modules for the Edge.
Well I rather just hook in a charging cable not being able to replace the battery while replacing sticks instead of not being able to change sticks but the battery.
I was hoping for the ability to assign button combinations to the back buttons. That would go a long way toward making some games more accessible for people with motor disabilities/impairments. Lacking that, it's not worth the high asking price for me personally. Maybe they'll add it with a later update, in which case I would definitely get one
Gulikit is working on hall effect replacement joystick modules for the Dualsense Edge. They're also working on a PS5 controller with hall effect sticks, hall effect triggers, and mechanical switches for the buttons.
My favorite thing about this controller for some reason is the texture on the triggers, didn’t see it coming but it feels really nice, also like how you can change the paddles to those half moon shapes instead
Those paddles are the best paddles I’ve ever used. BY FAR
@@tehCostHD I feel like they’re good if you don’t want to accidentally press paddles and have them be a bit more intentional presses
@@timothypatch5080 exactly. And they aren’t cheep plastic that will break off if pressed to hard like most paddles I’ve used.
@@timothypatch5080 I have to completely change the way I grip the controller when using the curvy paddles, so I'm sticking with the half moons.
The trigger texture is a huge plus.
Ok I have to admit the analog stick swapping is pretty cool.
This is a clear and comprehensive video, no longer or shorter than it should be for the subject. It's the only video I've seen about the Edge that anyone should watch who is considering whether or not to buy it.
Great review, Ryan! Just want to make a quick note: At the 3:11 mark, you say, “January 2022.” 😁
If hall effects joysticks come out in the future that work with this controller then I'm definitely getting one, I have 2 controllers and both have about 1 year of use so far and BOTH have stick drift be it in 1 joystick or in the 2 of them. Having no more stick drift sounds like a dream come true and I don't care if the price to pay for it is $200+ and a smaller battery.
who remembers the the dualshock 3 version where you didn't have to solder to replace the analog sticks? this version of the dualsense reminds me of that and it's definitely a nice touch.
Just got mine yesterday. Watching this on how I should get ideas for customization for mine
Been using it mostly on chivalry and as far as yhe back paddles I found using the half dome is good for an action That you don't want to really accidentally tap and paddle for something you meed a quick access too. Used the half dome for my special attack and the paddle for my kick which is awesome for still aiming and moving around
Thinking of chivalry, I'd like jab to be more accessible on controller and this seems perfect. Hoping to receive one for valentine's.
stick modules should become a standard feature in every controller. holy shit
Or Hall effect sticks so you dont need to replace them in the first place. This replaceable route is just creating another consumable item you have to buy from Sony, increasing their revenue and more importantly creating extra e waste.
Just got my Dualsense edge mystic! thanks for the helpful video without a user manual
love the controller i don’t have a problem with the battery life and i originally had the back button accessory for the ps4 that only had two so i’m used to using two im just glad i can finally have back buttons in some way on the ps5
Lucky enough to have a charger close to where I sit, so battery life is not an issue, for me. Not that I play for 4+ hours at the time all that often.
Will buy this closer to SF6 release, the extra buttons and trigger options will be great.
The great thing is that it can possibly help with reducing some motions for fighters as well. I've been trying it out in Tekken to minimize strain when I'm doing a kbd and it almost can do it with the paddles alone but I just need to practice. And in SF6 it can possibly aid in their new input settings regarding the ex inputs since they've changed from the traditional standard of L1/R1 to make changes for drive. Also I just thought about it recently and the grips might help with doing inputs on the joysticks too.
For me it has some good features like change audio from party to game on the fly, but that price doesn't make sense for what it brings to the table
considering the Elite controllers are $180 and develop stick drift after a couple months of hard play I's say an extra $20 isn't bad.
@@mototime8975 this right here
Pleasant review and overview. I liked the pacing and the editing on this one.
Great review would have been better if it was an x box controller
@@thanosbustedinyourmum you must be gay
Awesome clear concise no nonsense video. Great job! Subscribed.
This was a fantastic review btw. Deep and accompanied with lots of great footage. I’m going to pass myself on this controller. The ps5 is hands down my favourite controller ever. But I definitely wanted the same or longer battery life as I do like to play not plugged in. I have the XB elite 2 too and I like the 2 paddles setup. So that was the least I was expecting.
Software for it looks great. It’s also to expensive for what you get. Especially in the U.K. right now. - I might look at other ‘pro’ controllers soon…
They're similarly priced though and don't have the software support this does.
Not plugged in = wireless TOO
@@Daniel189HLL the XB Elite has almost the exact same software support and set up. and the profile switch is alot easer to and faster on the Elite as it has a dedicated button.
Seeing how the normal one lasts like 6 hours, I'm sure 2/3 of the capacity is plenty. If you're going to be playing long enough to run the battery empty there's gotta be a break where you can charge somewhere.
@@spicysnowman8886 literally only if you were doing a marathon stream or a really long speedrun would it ever be an issue
I like it a lot but I have two problems with it.
1) I keep pressing the right FN button. Hopefully I can disable it.
2) The battery life is on the short side. I guess it’s an excuse to take a break.
All in all I’m very happy with it.
It’s tempting to get this once my second controller starts drifting, had my first drift after 2 years of constant play so I’m hoping my second one can survive for longer.
Same position, after 2 years, the drift has set in
Manageable, but certainly noticeable and a huge quality of life upgrade when fixed
This is a surprisingly detailed review. Nice job!
Good review. Two things worth mentioning:
1. The case is not a charger, like the Microsoft Elite controller. You have to plug the USB-C cable into the controller to charge it.
2. You can only assign normal button presses on this controller, there is no ability to control a macro or combination of button presses.
Combo presses could possibly come via software updates?
@@Daniel189HLL let's hope so. I don't see why not
you can charge the controller while in the case though
@@derekdrozdzak by physically plugging a cable into the controller... not very premium IMHO. The Microsoft Elite controller sits on a charger nice and neat. I have the Sony PS5 controller charger, and that was designed nicely; I really don't know why they didn't do the same thing with the DualSense Edge :(
The replaceable joystick module is kind of insane. Now you don't have to do any crazy soldering onto the motherboard just to replace it.
Or you can buy 2 controllers for the same cost.. Boom replaced joysticks modules.
@@humanbeing9086 Wait how much are the modules?
@@ArcticWolfOfficial
They're only $20 a piece, but for a Dualsense Edge and 2 replacement modules, you're at $240. You can actually buy 3 regular Dualsense controllers with the same money, costing $210. It's neat, but definitely a gimmick.
@@humanbeing9086 base DualSense has no back buttons or trigger stops.
@@SkynetGeneral there's a back button attachment and you really don't need trigger stops. Sony controllers already don't have a ton of travel
Replaceable stick assembly sounds great how many of us have had to get a new controller because the sticks were out or you had to go to Best Buy and get like the geek squad protections, you can get another controller for like 15 bucks. I think that would interest me the most about this.
I was 100% thinking of Returnal when I ordered this! Thanks for the review, it was helpful in my decision making.
Hmm... I would have opted for four back buttons. With Xbox Elite I liked to map the face buttons to the back paddles. Is quicker and more comfortable (avoids doing "The Claw" heh)
Maybe at half the price...
I hope there's a matte faceplate available soon by third party, not a big fan of glossy plastic.
its stupidly ugly
This is so in depth. Well done Ryan!
I'm loving mine, had to replace my previous battle beaver pro controller which had its triangle button fail. The edge should last much longer than other pro controllers because of replaceable modules. That alone makes the edge the best one. Then the software customization sets it apart farther, scuff or battle beavers can't offer that.
Nice review!! For me the battery problem is a “no go” I’ll wait for a maybe later iteration with better battery life !!
Also no hall effect joysticks.
Sony uses the regular cheap ones that will drift and then sell you replacements instead of using hall effect joysticks that will never drift because they use magnets.
@@leospeedleo it’s how they “solved” stick drift while still being able to profit lol
@@leospeedleo you can buy 3rd party with those specific features. Also at least you can replace them which is a game changer
There won't be, keep that wishful thinking...
They expect shooter gamers to use the cable all the time, because wireless has noticeable lag.
This does look cool but I really can't fathom why they opted to make it 20$ usd more then the elite series 2 and why they opted to do two back buttons and not give us the option for 4 again like the elite series 2.
I love how you can change out the sticks completely in case of stick drift
Getting my PS5 tomorrow. I plan to get this eventually since I love my xbox series elite 2 controller and this is similar. In the future, adding hall-effect joysticks would certainly be nice.
After 30 minutes I already love it. The problem with the missing 2 buttons on the back was solvable for me with remapping a button, so lucky no big deal. Otherwise I LOVE the ease of use. It just so fluid with the console. Setting the controller up is a blast. You can switch easily between the settings for the sticks, etc and the game to try the new settings.
Only thing I'm kinda sad about is that you can't control the music with the shortcuts but other than that ... I really enjoy it
Yeah, the lack of four back buttons wasn't really an issue for me. I bought my edge mainly for PC gaming. I plan on eventually mapping the two 'function' buttons to serve as Shift functions for key map overlays. Had I gone with a controller with 4 back buttons, I would have mapped these same functions to the secondary back buttons; therefore im not really missing out on a set of buttons at all, they are just located on the front instead of the rear...and I really think that I'll prefer the thumb location better anyways.
Once programs like DSX and reWASD have worked out how to get the most of its functionality, I think the Edge will be able to do things that no other controllers have been able to yet. I can't wait to play Jedi Survivor with this controller.
Your idea for aftermarket Hall-effect stick modules is really cool,
hopefully $ony themselves might step up & offer an upgrade option to hall-effect sensors as value addition to the edge.
Hall sensors would make this sexy DualSense Edge super sexy.
Hopefully a price drop is inbound coz $200 for an extra controller is too rich for me.
Super vid bro!🫶🏽🔥 But i did not hear it well, is it possible to change the paddles to R3 and L3?
Already splurged on the VR2 but this is on the someday list as having even 2 back buttons is a big win. And to be truthful having a ps4 scuf and Xbox with 4 back buttons I have never used all 4 and find them awkward to use anyway.
Great review!!
Even with the flaws, the ability to replace the stick modules is so nice I will look into buying this controller
If you get stick drift Xbox gets you a new controller if its happening during warranty. Sony charges you almost 100 bucks . Its such a blatant cashgrab from both SOny and Microsoft instead of just using Hall Sensor Analog sticks that dont ear out like the ones we have in both controllers
@@SCYN0 not true
That's the only reason I bought it. The ability to swap the joysticks is a great feature and I hope it becomes standard across the industry.
I really think being able to swap joysticks as in the whole unit is a great thing to do I play games sometimes a Lil to heavy end up with stick drift have to buy a new controller but this is game changing you just buy a cheat replacement it's awsome
for competitive play, you will want to use the USB plugged in and set the connection to USB instead of bluetooth and then battery is not a problem. I'm definitely using this for the games I bought it for, COD & Street Fighter.
Hopefully 3rd Party companies will make Hall Sensor Joystick replacements for the DualSense Edge. 🙏
I've never been a big fan of 1st party controllers that add a whole bunch of additional buttons, sensitivity, etc. but this controller is ABSOLUTELY making me think differently. The trigger range sliders are awesome for stuff like FPS, the ability to make the back buttons optional, the modular stick boxes removing the hassle of having to solder on new stick boxes when drift starts showing up, the rubberized grip, the old Dualshock 3 style stick cap replacements, its all fantastic! Sure the smaller battery and only having 2 back buttons is a bit of a pain, but as someone who's used to my Dualshock 4's battery life I don't mind it too much and the back buttons are something I wouldn't use anyways.
My only personal complaint about this is that they should have also included High and Low stick caps in the Dualshock 4/Dualsense style as I feel not everyone enjoys the old Dualshock 3 style stick caps, most saying they slip off their thumbs too easily. Plus it would have also helped to include standard height stick caps in the Dualshock 3 style so that way both styles get all 3 levels of elevation.
Aside from that, I would happily use this as my primary controller if given the chance!
Just buy it and enjoy 😏
I never play anything competitively or in multiplayer and I own several "Pro" controllers. I like having complete configuration and customization freedom; even better on PC when combined with the power of rebinding software like ReWASD or Steam Controller Input.
For people that own the sony inzone H7/H9. Set the slider of the dongle to PC. Now you can adjust the volume/chatmix and mute from the edge controller.
I don't see any real reason why they wouldn't be able to implement that controller software for regular dual sense owners with a firmware update, besides gatekeeping it as some selling factor. I do love the replaceable sticks and I think it's a massive milestone for controller gaming. But I still can't justify this controller with the corners they cut on the battery. Plus I'm not a fan of no customization options and the shiny front plate that's gonna show every fingerprint immediately. The only thing that would make me reconsider is fixing the battery issue.
But realistically there's no way I'm paying $200+ unless they were offering something similar to Xbox design lab. Cause as innovative as this first attempt was it's pretty crazy we only got the single back trigger option and one colorway when they already offer so many for the regular dual sense. You should be getting a customized pro controller for that price range. Hopefully it'll be at one of their next big reveals after another headset or something cause we're long overdue for Sony's attempt at a design lab
It would’ve been a MUST BUY if there were 4 mapped back buttons. I love the changesable sticks. Always tired of taking my controllers apart to switch out sensors. I just can’t get behind 2 buttons on the back. Kinda a shame… 😢
If in the future they make an elite version with 2 EXTRA buttons it will be a 10/10 controller!
yeah i really wish they went with 4 back buttons for the maximum "edge" in competitive gaming. Just two is a bummer. Thing is though, the swappable sticks might just sell me on buying this because if you can easily swap out a stick and boom you have little to no drift again, then it might just be worth it.
EDIT: if the function buttons can be remapped too that would be a small help though.
@@Rain1 you can't remap the function buttons they are dedicated for that use.
For me it's the lack of four buttons, price, and that battery life. The replaceable sticks had me so hyped for this controller. Probably version 2 will be a better buy
@@suprememedjai4433 I think I saw somebody doing it on Steam but of course if you're on Playstation then that doesn't matter
@@suprememedjai4433 that's what I'm waiting on. There's no way they don't make a dualsense edge+ and have four back buttons instead. Such an easy way to get your original buyers to now by this one as well. Even though it's kind of crappy to do that
I like the magnet feature on removing the sticks on the elite xbox controller I wish this new duel sense controller had that
Thanks for the honest review and not just praising this thing to the moon like a lot of other reviewers. The two problems you mentioned are absolute deal breakers for me. Especially the lack of 4 paddles.
I have a controller for my PC that can have up to four paddles on the back, and I found that I could only really get use out of two paddles. I ended up removing two of the four paddles from the controller entirely, now it is much simpler to use and get used to from game to game.
On the flip side, I did end up using all four back buttons on the steam deck in select circumstances. So the physical design of my PC controller may be playing a role in my fondness for only two paddles.
@@kieran.grant_ Yeah I only use 4 paddles in competitive FPS games, which is the main reason I get pro controllers. Everything else I use 2 paddles, if only because they are there.
I hope those back button become standard, as a new extra button or just replacement to R3/L3
I just got mine. This is a really good controller aside from the battery life. Luckily, the wire is really really long. The locking mechanism is a nice addition.
Hopefully they update the controller so it works to control more wireless headsets.
The modular parts are very well thought out. Hoping we see 3rd party plastic trims and thumb sticks and maybe even back buttons.
The case is very nice. Hard shelled case with a nice inner lining.
Overall, a very good first shot at a Pro controller. This thing feels a bit heftier and durable. I don’t think this has the build issues the Elite controllers have. Maybe drift issues eventually as you’d expect, but now we can replace the sticks so not too big of an issue. The trigger stoppers are also very strong I’ve tried pulling on them with a decent amount of force they don’t budge. 8.5 out of 10 from me.
Yeah, man. The battery life is really shitty. Good thing for me, it aint a big deal.
Do you have issues with built in mic. Mine not working
The replaceable joysticks will hopefully change controller gaming for ever. This should be put into every new controller model going forward, Xbox and Nintendo included. It’s so well done and so user friendly.
It's a scam. If they wanted to be user friendly they would use magnetic sticks ( like the new nintendo controller )
Xbox has a similar controller already "elite" class controller.
Nice to have OEM options
this doesnt actually solve the issue in fact it is contextually identical to what Nintendo did for years and just profit off the issue. This is the Pharma solution: Apply a bandaid rather than cure. The one prove solution is using Hall Effect sensors. Its frictionless bc theres no physical arm rubbing the bottom of the module, which wears out one or the other. It generates a magnetic field and measures changes in that field to translate the input. It more accurate and more responsive than the standard, said to be only slightly more costly, and eliminates stick drift altogether. Now if someone creates HF modules to be used, that would be perfect
@@WorldPodTour 100%, not to mention the sticks go for $25 a pop. Replacing both sticks, might as well get a new controller 🤷🏼♀️
@@DatGuyWithDaGlasses Gulikit is working on a non-drifting stick module for the Edge at least, though idk what the price is going to be. I sincerely hate this era where you just have to pray your controller works for more than a few months...
I really hope the do other colors with the Edge. I want this in starlight blue. I'm loving this controller so far
this was a really good vid and it helped me make my decision, I'm defiantly gonna buy one of these, I used a scuff controller on my ps4 for years, so this is something i can really get behind. i am hoping that maybe they'll sell them at BB or GS, and maybe they'll lower the price but if not I'm still gonna pick one up at some point thanks again for one of the best reviews ive seen about this controller
The two back buttons are definitely a deal breaker for me. Coming from Scuf Impact, where I literally started with 1 back button for training muscle memory, and now on 4 after a couple of years of using it, I'm NOT going back to 2 back buttons. I'd have to give up reloading and applying armor, which is not happening. Jump and crouch alone are not favorable in a pro or serious gaming environment.
Bro needs to aim while reloading and applying armor😭
What game u playing to need 4 back buttons 😂😭😭
Tbh the product looks amazing.
My problem is the price however. Sure in theory it’s a money saver because you just replace parts when something gets damaged. But I’m my case I doubt I will find spare parts easily.
Perhaps PS6 could make the “pro” version the standard, but that’s just a wish.
Every pro controller like this is always $150 or more. An xbox elite controller + the accessories is $200, a scuf dualsense costs way more than the edge, and a hex dualsense also costs $200. The dualsense edge costs the same as the majority of the other major pro controllers.
I was shocked by the price at first but as a daily player I think that my return on investment on the DSE will be pretty fast. I was used to play with the back button attachements on DS4 or with a Nacon Controller that have 4 back buttons and I missed them a lot on PS5. The DSE (if you don't mind play wired at some point) is clearly the best controller I ever tried with some good customisation possibilities (lack just 2 other back buttons). And I play video games for about 30 years now... 😉
Personally, considering for me in Sweden its $270 if I ever get stickdrift I could buy 3,5 controllers for the price of this thing. I dont care for back buttons its never bothered me and I dont do competetive. If others do and with it being cheaper in other markets then maybe a tiny bit better.
10:29 YES! This was my first thought when I saw these were hot swappable. Someone has GOT to come out with a hall effect version.
I can’t express how much I appreciate being able to swap the sticks out, I don’t even have a ps5 yet but would buy this for PC immediately if the battery life was better
Great review, I'd maybe add another downside: the price. It's way too expensive, especially outside the US
Not really in the long term
Had to nope out of the purchase once I saw the 300€ price
i love the controller and its new functions but the price makes me sick
The main thing wanted to hear Ryan..was if YOU are going to be using it going forward? The specs I can get anywherew else. Other than that its the best video review out there right now.
Brilliant review! I appreciate the effort.
The smaller battery is such a mistake. The battery capacity should have been increased and at worst, stayed the same size as on the standard DualSense.
Totally agree. I think they will lose a lot from sales just because of the battery issue..
I own one and it lasts all day. You can’t even tell the difference honestly
@L_O_W_K_E_Y-G you know that your the statement doesn't invalidate mine, right? The fact they will lose a lot of sales because of the battery doesn't mean it will not sell well. They just lost the opportunity to nail it.
@@leoni7649 so do you own one? Have you experienced it for yourself first hand? I have. It lasts all day no worries. How long do you need it to stay charged for?
@@lesionsofadifferentkind9158 good for you bro. I just don't think a controller with lower battery specs is worth that price tag, and this is why I will not be buying it until they come up with a new improved revision. A 3000mah battery would cost like $15 extra for them and would be 3 fucking times better than what they came up with.
All I want is for Sony to allow the dead zones to be adjusted on standard Dual Sense controllers too. I have two Day 1 controllers with Drift but plugging them into a PC for diagnostic shows the relative drift is less than on my PS4 and XBO controllers that DON’T drift, which shows this is a software issue primarily. Dead zones are just set too small on PS5.
I hope Sony will add this feature. Many aren't able to purchase every year another Dualsense due to stick drift.
Many games let u manipulate the thumbstick deadzones either higher o lower. Titles like call of duty, battlefield, or Rainbow Six siege for example. Also u should overclock your dualsense if u use it on PC. It has by default a high response time of 8 m\s causing imput lag. Just search on YT how to overclock it it’s easy
@@edmundojosezuazuachapa1612 I don't believe that human perception is capable to spot a 8m/s delay...
The Edge controller is heavier than a standard dualSense controller. In fact, I have to rest my forearms on my thighs when using the Edge. The weight difference is notable, at least for me. Also, I'm getting 4 hours of use between charges, consistently.
Awesome might consider purchasing it, but it's better if they release a dual sense Edge 2 with 4 back buttons. Hopefully in the future 🤔
Something about this product just irks me. It might be my limited personal experience but previous generations of console and their controllers were built in a way that I didn’t have technical issues personally ever. They lasted for me.
Only this generation I’ve seen problems and that’s specifically with the switch. But I hear friends who kept their controllers well and working in previous generations complaint about stick drift etc
It feels like features and customisability has been held back and married to a general manufacturing and persistent issue in stick quality problem. And marked up for good measure.
All the software functions could’ve been given to regular controller from the get go. Steam development had already made this a standard and was compatible with all the different controllers you plug into a PC so it’s not a hardware level restriction but a choice to limit firmware accessibility.
Just feels like we’re being sold a solution to a purpose made problem to me. But I don’t have to buy it so I won’t 🤷🏻♂️
Don't really care for the battery, I play close to the console so no problem having it connected most of the time. Only problem is the price. It's overpriced. $150 is pushing it, but I would pay that. $100 would be perfect 🔥
Great video, thank you! I'm thinking about getting this controller to use for my ps5 and also as a pc controller. It would be great to get your thoughts on the Dualsense Edge as a pc controller!
I really want one but the price is crazy. The deadzone feature is probably my favorite considering i got twitchy thumbs. Takes me super long to adjust a deadzone to my liking. Then 5 mins later it dont feel right
The 2 back buttons instead of 4 is a dealbreaker on its own, but the low battery life is just an extra kick in the teeth. Back buttons are amazingly convenient in most single player 3D games, not just competitive FPS. Not having to take your hands off the sticks is incredible. I bought a third party 4 button modding kit instead
This would have been great had it been like 50 bucks less. Bad battery life, only two paddles and the glossy plastic near where you'll be keeping our fingers the majority of the time is a deal breaker for me.
The batterylife on the standard controller is just enough for me personally, where I've never actually run out. As this controller has a smaller battery I feel that would be an issue because I prefer to to use it wirelessly. Maybe they'll find a way eventually to fit a bigger battery.
Let's hope.
I've built 3 costume costumes trousers which have 4 back paddles, find it more difficult having to choose 2 buttons but seems like a good controller
The DualShock 3 made me adjust my playstyle 15 years ago by using my middle fingers on the L2 and R2 buttons.
And when the back buttons came out for the DS4, I never had any problems using my ring fingers on them.
Im part of the target audience those back pedals are made for 😁