What about Withdrawal at Low Doses of Suboxone?
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I started 8mg two years ago, eventually jumped all the way to 2mg after a year, 6 months in would self-taper half a 2mg tab so 1 mg, 3 months in did .5mg, in the last month and a half i literally take the teeny tiniest piece that i barely rip off with my fingers and now im on day 5 of WD and yeah days 1-3 were toughhhh especially day 1 and 2, but i feel way better already! it's a mind thing too, keep telling yourself to tough it out and roll w the punches and literalllyyyy distract yourself every waking moment with ANYTHING. Wishing you all recovery and fulfilling lives!!
I went down to 0.0625mg and jumped off. I'm on day 7 of no Suboxone and feeling ok! Not bad at all. Days 3-6 were kinda bad, but tolerable.
Done prity much the same.....2015, without any nasty symptoms.
Was reducing from 0,5 mg/ quoter of 2 mg pill/......to something like you 0, 06/ rafly a 2 mg pill cuted in some 30 pieces/.
All that realy slowely...in 4/5 monthes.
Repeating; no any withdrowing symptoms👌🙂🍀
Maybe, you have a kinde of fear and to much of selfanalising, which is apsolutly natural 🖖🌞🍀👋
P.S., Congratulationes + my excouse on unpolished english.
Did you feel nauseous or throw up or diarrhea coming off at .5 because I am down to 1 mg ready to jump off now but don’t want to feel any rough side effects like puking and throwing up runny nose and sweats I can deal with.
I was on 4mg. For 4yrs. I cut it into 4 quarters and took a quarter every 2 to 3 hours. Once I started tapering off. I cut the quarters in half. Kept cutting tiny slivers until my last five 4mg. was gone. Withdrawal was very manageable. Except for the intense diarrhea 💦💩😁✌️
I believe that incompetent, ignorant, arrogant doctors are the worst.
Finding a good doctor, like yourself, is probably the hardest thing.
My doctor that I have is the definition of what you’re talking about
Ive tappered down to 0.8mg and jumped off im on day 4 i feel my withdrawl has peaked now hopefully tmrw will be better its bearable but in saying that ive took a week of work sat watching netflix no stress and not been out the house, stomache churning and groaning and anxiety but nothing like a full cluck . Its doable
Ok that gives me hope down to 1 mg ready to jump off but don’t want to throw up or diarrhea but sweats n anxiety is tolerable n can deal with I’ve detoxed a million times but never off suboxone and this was longest I’ve been on any substance
@smokingwithswflspargo239 Go for it its two months now since I came off and sticking with it I'm sure that's my last ever detox of my life now feeling fairly normal 😉. It does drag on a bit for 2 weeks to be honest and I did give in and take tramadol for a few days that's just prolonged it I think. I wasn't really tip top for a month I went back to work after two weeks and lumped it. In two months iv put a load of weight on as less active and comfort eating I guess it's been a longer process this time but it might be my age at 50. Best of luck crack on and be free
That’s helpful to know, I’ve got Down to 0.6mg , down from 0.8mg a week ago, was shocked at how uncomfortable it’s been this week. I did try some co-codamol, , to help with aches knees, but didn’t feel much apart from really lethargic. My drug worker wants me to drop 0.2 mg every two weeks, I think this is unrealistic, what’s your view. I hope you are now completely clear of the damn stuff, and feel good. I’ve come down from 24mg two years ago, I was a full blown heroin addict for 12 years, and two week detoxing in hospital never worked coz I felt so bad, so was hoping slow reduction better, but this last bit is really hurting, Simon from England, any tips, or drugs I can take to relieve symptoms, of you’re experience would be helpful to know, regards, from an achey Simon
Ive been on 1/8 of a mg. For a weeek. I have not taken it today. Wish me luck. Been on it 7 years
Good luck and God speed 🤙🏼
Good luck! So proud of you!!!
How long did it last . I stopped at .5 and can't sleep worth shit 😆
I should mention im only 48hrs in
@@averydion6788how are you doing with that now? I’m in the same boat. It’s like, uh, not fun.
Sarcasm aside holy fuck I wish somebody would have told me what withdrawals from bupe are like because I would have been better off just white knuckling the rondo withdrawals. Heroin dope sickness is more intense but at least it’s only about a week or so and you start getting back to being able to sleep, restless legs (and arms, goddamn I get them worse than the legs, anybody else have this? ) go away, you can take a shit that wouldn’t go through a screen door
Best advice ever
Love from London England 🏴
I will never get on any antidepressants ever again. It's just another future withdrawal. Just my experience.
Tell em!
Those brain zaps are no joke.
And they completely destroy a woman's sex drive (something the docs don't tell them)
No where near as severe with proper wean like doc has been saying. Jumped off at .5mg/.25mg. Other than rls and insomnia for a few days it was sooo much easier. Couldn't wait to get back to work after week at home.
Got all worked up , full of fear of what was coming and nothing . It never came.
Hi John
I'm about to jump off 0.4mg per day and am worried about how long the withdrawal will last and how severe they will be.
Seems like you are saying it won't be that bad ??
@@MrBlaine1234 correct. If been weaning proper it will not be that bad. Few days of rls and insomnia. During day I was fine. This was after 10 years of opiates. Approx 1.5 years on subs. 3 years off. Feel great. Good luck my friend.
@@johnarruda2765 thanks my man
I'm 3 years clean of illicit opiates and have been tapering subs for the 3 years
Now down to 0.4 and will be on 0.2 for a week next week then it's over and I'm on my own so to speak.
I am most concerned about the lack of motivation...how long until your general energy and motivation returned ??
@@MrBlaine1234 thats excellent, your almost 100% done. Sweet! Congrats! My energy returned pretty quick, never really went down. I think weaning properly helped that as well, it was very sutle and short. Was so much fear for nothing. Once got over the fear and realized it was over and wasn't as bad as I expected, my life was back to normal and real life took over, everyday less and less thought about what had gone through. I never gave that nightmare a thought again. I feel really good man, was a rough 10 plus years , it can be beaten. All in rearview mirror now. Best of luck, one day will be in your rear view as well. So grateful that Part of my life is over. Was Ugly. Good luck, drop me an update once in a while.
@@johnarruda2765 thanks so much for your response John I appreciate more than you could know.
I'm so ready to have a substance free life but there's always that little voice in my head saying the withdrawal will be too hard.
The internet is full of people with scary stories saying how hard the last bit of sub withdrawal is and how they would rather be on heroin etc!!
You are the first person I've found whos said it's possible and not that bad when all's said and done.
Just reading your comment yesterday lifted my mood massively and I'm starting to really believe I can get this behind me now.
Thanks again John and I wish you the absolute best
I have been taking 1/4 for a bout 2 months or so and today Iv had enough. Subs have dictated a large portion of my 30’s and I’m sick of it. I hate them. Wish me luck
The acute withdrawal wasn’t too bad when I jumped off .5mg.
If you jump off at .5mg, and by day 7 have pretty bad withdrawals still. Would it be bad to take just a sliver of a piece to get a little bit of sleep and relief? Then finish the rest of the withdrawl. I quit at 1mg once and slept maybe 7 hours in a 10 day period. And couldnt stand it, so started back again. The lack of sleep and back pain was just too much
Listen to your body.. I started doing every other day at .5mg for a week or 2 then every 2 days for until I could finally just be okay without it.
The issue is daily use..try to skip days. Magnesium pills. Alot of body armor
I don’t skip a day I’ll take like the corner of it that’s all I’ll take every day a really small piece but it’s bothering my thinking patterns in I want to stop
What is your advice on taking clonidine and or Valium for withdrawals
do it valium, weed but barelycould smoke, Lyrica for legs clonidine for sweats, anti diarrheal anti emetic vitc I jumped off 1mg (2yrs on that dose) I should have dropped to .05mg then every other day. day 7 still in hell
Finally got down to 1 mg this is so freaking hard to keep dosing n feeling like crap ready to jump off ill be so happy to be off aftwr 4 years
More invaluable info.✌️
I’ve been on this for ten years. Doctor NEVER mentioned how bad it was to come off it. Never offered a taper plan. I made my own plan, took a year of tapering and finally made the jump 11 days ago. Still extremely low energy, legs hurt but for the most part, the rls is gone. Starting to sleep a lil more each night, and feeling a couple % better each day. This shit is the devil. Good luck
Right!! My Dr is the same it’s such shit. Been on it for 6 years, i was 3 weeks in with nothing and my skin was still on fire and the brain fog was still terrible I had to give back in
This exactly where I am at and this is exactly what I needed to hear. I'm at 1 mg and about to break that in half. I had some withdrawal going from 2 to 1 mg but it only lasted a day or so and it was purely physical. Mentally I was fine. I've loaded up on amino acids, vitamins and some other suppliments. I feel that I will be able to get down and off in about 3 to 4 weeks or so I hope. My will is strong and I've just completely had it and am done with Suboxone and opiates all together. Mega dosing sodium ascorbate helped me taper down the last few weeks.
I was on methadone for 10 years prior but mostly at a low dose as low as 10 MG's. Switch to Suboxone 2 years ago to get off completely. Went from 8 MG's down to 1 mg. Almost there. Also on Vyvanse. Almost off that too. Looking to nootropics after to keep me good and far away from trouble along with the good diet,working out and moving forward!
I originally was taking three vikes two or three times a day in my worst pill days, I mean they were a lot cheaper back then so you could get three for the price of one but I finally got help and it took like 6 years. They started me off at like 4 mg twice a day then it made me kind of sick so I did three and a half milligrams twice a day. I tried to cold turkey off like 4 mg a day and that s*** was miserable I knew how strong this s*** was when I had such a small piece and it made me feel better. Well last time I tried to quit was off like one or one and a half milligrams a day well this time I was taking a certain amount like a half milligram twice a day and then I cut it down to one time a day, then I have to cut that in half because I was down to my last trip. The thing is I quit going to the doctor because they wouldn't take insurance so I had to pay cash and it's like why would I pay somebody $100 and then pay top dollar for the medicine when I could actually pay a friend like 12 bucks for a 8 mg strip. They were only giving me like 12 mg a month at that point and I'm like okay I can pay 24 bucks and be covered for the next month and a half or two months. So it made no sense. Well my sources ran out and yes I was weaning down so I was making progress but now I had to wean down like because it was my last one. I got down to like .25 mg and that was my last dose
@@Acefull-pl1iu how are you traveling now, 2 months down the track?
Hey doc great video. Thanks for sharing.
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@@dr.chrispark can I asked you I jumped off at 4mg 8 days ago and I’ve always had normal blood work but i wanted to get my liver bilirubin checked it was 3.4 but my levels have always been good just had them check 3 months ago! Have you seen levels go higher from
Just stopping Suboxone and going threw the withdrawal’s like mild fever, and the diarrhea! Still going on end to day 8
What is your opinion of withdrawal and pregnancy?
Ive heard using the injections once a month for a couple of months is the easiest taper down.
Bit passive to get off completely, but want to. Reason being = Worried'll Relapse etc. When ready to Taper again the Head says "nah do it Tomorrow", but that's the Addict as am addicted to Subbies now. Do know the withdrawal's nothing like a 'Gear cluck' & won't be too bad so expecting Insomnia mainly + the odd sneeze or 3 etc
I have been on subutex about 6 months in feel great I been tapering for and down to just a crumb once a day I take clodinie for my blood pressure and lexapro for depression I was wondering if I could just stop without withdrawal?
Talk to your doctor. I normally have my patients (once they taper the dose low enough) to spread out their doses based on time. Example: dose every 24 hrs to every 28hrs, then after several days or weeks every 36 hrs, then after several days/weeks, every 48 hrs, etc. etc. etc. Eventually the drop off point will become clear. But talk to your doc first before making changes.
i went down from 16 milligram to 8 hope to get to for then jump and then do a 2mg and a few days later another 2 milligram that is how i got of when i was in jail. i had time between mental ward and jail and jail and rehab. now im stuck on it again because i started a stressful business with my junkie abusive brother. 8;00 am to 10;00 most days his gold digging wife demanded he make more money for her downtom alley lifestyle. she cheats on him all of the time and even hits on me. i tried to tell him and he won't believe
Dr.Park, I live in Alabama. Can you see out of state patients on the first visit and do telemedicine after that initial in-person visit?
What about cutting up the generic strips? Do they work as well as brand name when they are cut up?
Cutting them up does nothing to them. Cutting one in half isn’t going to make it work better or worse, the buprenorphine is evenly distributed throughout the film. And yea, the generic work just as good. People who say they don’t work as good are idiots. It’s just addicts being addicts.
Awesome human. Excellent doc. THANK GOD this man posts such valuable information. His advice is tremendous and has changed my life.
Mine tooooooooo
Wow! Thanks for the encouraging words. Means a lot
@@allisonerickson3598 Thanks!
Agreed. I found this channel sort of by accident. Call it fate perhaps but he's just the best!
@@allanm2064 Thanks brother 🤙🏼
I feel stuck, I own a business now , I also have custody of both my children but feel I will never get off this medication because I have quite cold turkey before and with my responsibility I can’t be sick what do you do I know I don’t use drugs but I feel I have just substituted
Talk to your doctor but I normally use a very slow taper with my patients. The most important thing is not to relapse and keep your relationships strong.
The slower u go the faster you get there. I had success jumping off at .25mg (stable for at least 1 month at this final dose) and .10mg of clonidine was a huge help making the jump. You can do it, trust the process bro
I was wondering when my blues are going to subside. I'm low energy and lost interest in my usual routine. 😕
I went from 400mg oxy/day 5 weeks ago. Started sub @8mg and now I’m down to 1mg after 5 weeks. No major withdrawal so far. I’m gonna bail out @.5mg next week. Anyone know what I can expect. I’m ready after trying to cold turkey (success & relapse) from oxy 5 times last year. Diet is clean, staying active and have 2 weeks off. Good to go?
How have you been?
Still terrified to jump. At a low dose. I’m afraid of the cravings.
Do you take the 2mg films? Try and take / cut smaller doses - jumping at .5 is still psychologically challenging
I do have the 2mg. It’s been about 2 months on subs. You think the withdrawal will be brutal like the year or 2 people.
Keep in touch with your doctor- they'll have the best advice ofc. Don't rush it, hang in there and I wish you the best! Withdrawal is a pain in the ass but try to keep it slow and steady while you're tapering down
i tapered down to half a milligram in 2 weeks... once i get down to .12 which is half of a quarter milligram im going to put it in water and taper with a drip a day and get well below .01 just diluting it as much as possible slowly
Oh wow. What milligram were you on?
8+mgs@@HalfwayJac
@@kristopherfisher2517 really? You went from 8 mg, to that low in just that short a time frame? That's inspiring! How did it go?
its not easy, but dropping to 4 day one, then after 5 days 2, 5 days 1, 5 days 0.5@@HalfwayJac
shouldn't do it that way though
Please give me some advice I would be so grateful
What’s your dose
I can't get buphenorphine here in Miami I can't quit totally I get very anxious when I tried...it's so hard here in Miami 🤦🤷
It’s a generic for suboxone I having a hard time finding a doctor to prescribe it
@@facosta8278 = Aye, was like that before over here so had to go Private once & script transferred. Waiting list now (takes ages), but empathise with you.
@@facosta8278 Im in Boca Raton and everyone prescribes it up here, and all pharmacies carry it.
@@facosta8278 Ophelia
Brightheart telehealth, my Doctor is great and my state insurance is accepted and covers it all. I live in a very rural area and so telehealth has been the only realistic way for me to do it. I think they might be one reason I'm still not using and have had no relapses. Not even a craving!! Thanks Dr. A.
I’m on day 5 since I stopped at 4mg I had all the withdrawals on the day after last dose! Like mild fever, body aches, cold chill’s, hot flashes, diarrhea.. I don’t sleep all night now.. but wake up aground 2:30 and fall back asleep after fighting restless legs! But this is day 5 without! I’ve been on it 5 years I went and got a pee test and it’s still showing Suboxone in my urine! I thought it was gone! I feel so bad now can I still have have a positive pee test and be almost over the worst part of the Suboxone withdrawal? My liver levels are good , my weight is alittle over doc says lose weight! I’m at 215lbs any help would be appreciated!
How’s it going
@@jennymyers4144 not sure if you were talking to me but if so it’s going great. All my symptoms have basically went away. I found me working and not just sitting at home thinking about it was key for me .. I feel 80% better! My sleep is getting back to normal. It’s just getting past that first month for me was rough. It seem like it was never going to go away, but it does get better. I never knew how Suboxone had changed me until I got off. I feel emotions again and I’m connected and want to do stuff with my family! It’s like Suboxone had me doing stuff the same day, and I was in a fog..
it's half life is 37 fuckiin days
damn i cant get past the .5 mg a day. idk i cant past that dose. im starting to think ill be on it forever. cuz i just cant function if i dont have some opiate in my body. i mean i guess i could do it. but i know for a fact no matter how low and long i taper when i get to zero mg it will be atleast a straight 6 month depression and void feeling. i cant deal with 6 month of that
When my patients can’t get lower than a certain dose, I will often have them taper by extending the time instead of lowering the amount. Example: 0.5 mg every 25 hrs instead of every 24. Then after 1-2wks push back to every 26 hrs, etc, etc. Just a thought. Talk to your doctor ✌🏻
@@dr.chrispark alright cool yea I’ve watched all your videos I’ll prolly start doing something like that. I wish you were my doctor lol my doctor isn’t worth a crap .
@@dr.chrispark I got a complete blood count done with her. And It was sapose to give me my thryroid function and hormone levels checked. But she said that she only checked the electrolytes and liver and kidney. She wasn’t able to tell me about my thyroid or hormone levels. That was the main two reasons I got the test done for . She said that she doesn’t have anything to do with hormones that I would have to go to hormone dr. I thought that was strange
@@ethancowart6765 Is she a family doctor or psychiatrist?
@@dr.chrispark shes a psychiatrist
First stop focusing on it.JUST DO IT.I WENT FROM 16MG.DOWN TO .1.5 THEN DONE.
If it were only that easy. I could deal with it but the feeling of my skin on fire I couldn’t do it
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Why didn’t I see this video two months ago 😆
So much bad information on this video
Slow,slow,slow.
Do u have social media? Or email??? I'm trying to get off subs