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Good morning I just heard someone brought a Benz 350 gle 2020 with 56,000 miles and his engines failed , the sound from the engine was loud knocking . He brought it used . What miles is best to buy in this model I’m in US
Had mine for 4 years, modest 60k mileage, no problems so far. Regular maintenance and being careful, the ride, comfort, speed and premium experience is just as good as the first day.
My father owned a W123, a W201 and a facelifted W203 200 CDI. The W123 and W201 were meh. Nothing near like the quality of a Lexus or a Toyota. I admit: they were from another decades. The W203 was amazing: 400.000 km with some problems, but the engine kept on going without changing the double timing chain.
What I have learned from owners of premium cars: first they say they never had problems with their cars and after a while they start telling the truth about their countless dealer visits.
It genuinely is hit and miss. Genuine first account here : my dad has always bought premium euro stuff and has zero major issues just general wear and tear and that also minor stuff, myself included owning a polo gti aw for the past 3+ years absoloutly no issues, all my cousins and uncles same story. I guess it really depends on maintenance and luck.
Own Volvo's, have for awhile,never buy new, find a good speacilist mechanic, never go to the dealerships unless you have to. Have always gone diesels, haven't had an issue. Saftey levels through the roof, best seats in any car I ever had an lovely to drive.
Yeah. Look, I am saying this as a German with a relative who worked as a Mercedes mechanic all his life until he retired: Don't buy a modern Mercedes. The brand still works but its cars don't. If you want a Mercedes deserving of the name you gotta buy one from 1999 or earlier. Back when the engineers ruled the company. They ENGINEERED the car and then a price was set according to the cost of the engineering and building process. You got what you paid for. Literally. That's how Mercedes became known for quality. The cars were expensive for a (very good) reason. But modern Mercedes is nothing like that. Modern Mercedes operates like all the other brands. Setting a price first, then engineering and building toward that price point. (and then charging extra for the brand name)
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 I'd say that 2006 is the last good year for Mercedes, maybe excluding the SLK/CLK for a few more years in their more basic packages. The day the M113 got replaced by the M156 was when the switch truly occurred. Don't get me wrong, when those 6.2L's run great they are MONSTERS but they usually have a life expectancy around 110k-130k miles, sometimes less, until a head bolt needs upgraded. Also, casting errors started becoming a BIG problem. Whether it be Blocks or camshafts or pistons or rods or cylinder walls, they just don't last without serious $$$. The M112/M113/M113k? I honestly don't think they really have an expiration date. They just keep going and going with basic maintenance. 300 to 400 to 500k miles and up, there was an SL I think that has 800k+ miles out there. Even those 5-speed transmissions were tough as nails, they would almost last as long as the engine with fluid changes every 40k miles and maybe a conductor plate at 300k miles. At around the same time the M156 came out, the 7G Shiftronic came out and while they can handle power pretty well, they had reliability issues as well! To engineer motors that go a million miles and drop down to barely 100k, that's an absolute travesty!
@@ChrisKeymani have a GLC43. Fantastic handling and fast. Air suspension takes you through corners much flatter - I found the GLC300 to roll a lot in corners - the 43 air suspension solves this even in comfort mode. Yes it can be a bit rough on poor surfaces. Key is to move off run flats as soon as you can - michelin cross climate 2 sizes to fit.
I know that Mercedes quality has gone down a bit, but my family has a 2019 C300 with 139k km on it, and we’ve had almost no problems with it. Especially when it comes to build quality, it has been very solid. Before this we also had a 2017 C300 and again, no problems even after 80k+ kms.
@@HardstylePete 139k km is a lot of wear and tear on a car especially when it's city driving. The majority of the kms on this car is from city driving since new, which is very different than a car with that many kms from mostly highway driving.
I've just started watching this. And I have three hit predictions: 1. You're going to not recommend buying this vehicle unless you're mechanically minded yourself. 2. The word "s*it" will be used at least twice. 3. You're going to rummage through the sunglass holder to find out what brand of sunnies the owner wears. 😅
Crazy how these have heck lots of issues compared to their normal W205 C-Class brothers. My Sibling had one till 193k km with a C220d OM651 Diesel Engine. Everything was running fine but his family grew and he opted to go for an E-Class W213 E350d.
You hit the nail on the head about style over substance. The German brands used to be too for engineering, not anymore. They have cut corners more than many manufacturers and the cost cutting is so obvious when you dive into the engine bay and the general car beyond the flashy interior. And the premium brands absolutely rip their customers off for parts and labour. People forget that a lot of the engineering is actually Nissan and Renault (A-Class = Infiniti QX). Great video guys
I owned a 2016 GLC250 from new and had the airmatic option (air suspension) have to say the ride quality is superb until I had a warning light showing up suggesting there’s an issue with the airmatic system just at 5 year mark with below 60k km mileage. Dealer initially diagnosed it saying both front air springs are dead needs to be replaced and quote A$6800 and I was advised that the car needs to stay in dealership as it’s not suitable for drive. Waited 3 month for the parts to be shipped from overseas (it was during the supply chain crisis) they called me saying that they found the pump is dead too and wanted me to pay an additional A$5100 for the pump - had to tell the dealer that I’m bringing this issue to ACCC and not paying a cent for the extra issue they told me after they had the car for three months. Ended up only paid what was originally agreed and had a ‘good will’ warranty split from MB for the replacement of the pump. Not touching any MB in my life - what a bloody nightmare.
Burnt out pump is common on airmatic cars with leak if you leave the leak too long Goodwill is a good point that most people don’t know about and why servicing at a dealer during warranty and just outside of warranty can be beneficial with euro brands I’ve had cars upto 7 years old with goodwill claims with Audi, BM and Benz and only paid partial contributions for repair
@@dorianvisser1922 You are right about the pump burnt out with leave it too long - my complaint for the dealer was they were very confident that the air spring is the problem and said no other issues. I thought they had tested the pump already but was only told that it was broken after waiting for 3 months - my theory to the dealer is then what if it’s just the pump at the beginning - and statistically for two air spring to break at the exact same time is very rare - on that seperate note I did have the car always serviced by the dealer might be the reason they did the good will split.
I own a 2020 GLC 300. This video seems to have an overall misleading agenda. I've had no issues at all. The only complaint I have is being stopped to get compliments all the time.
I’ve heard a lot of bad experiences with newer Mercs. On the other hand, many say the W212 generation of E-class is one of the best built “new” Mercedes. Any chance of a review on that one? Both the pre- and post-facelifted versions!
W212 is an excellent car Buy the V6 350 and the 5.4 litre (called 5.5) V8 they are the most reliable 4 cylinder engines can have same issues and other Inc stretched timing chains and cam gear issues 500 has Airmatic as standard So look for an E350 with normal sunroof not panoramic on steel springs not Airmatic with vision pack and you won’t go wrong E350d would be next choice heaps more torque and better fuel economy but leaky oil cooler so keep a couple of grand in your pocket for repairs
I agree with points made above. I purchased a 2012 E350 W212 low mileage example for my parents. They’ve now had it several years and absolutely love it. It has the basic luxuries one would need while keeping everything relatively simple. There’s a reason why the W212 Mercedes was used as taxis all over the world.
My suggestion to anyone who is buying a new vehicle and it has to be from a prestige brand, buy a Lexus. You will get the same driving experience as a European brand but without the nightmares.
Lexus is not even in the same ball park when it comes to luxury and driving dynamics, agreed they will outlive any German vehicle…. But Lexus vehicles just don’t excite the driver.
Nice to see a car we own and what to expect what can go wrong or what to be cautious about. Thanks ReDriven! Isnt this most sold MB currently? I can say for end 2016/early2017 220d 190.000km, it is true that bump stops under "Comfort" setting hit every time over speedbumps ("Sport" mode prevents hitting bumpstops), squeaking brakes, crabwalking also. But crabwalking can be solved with proper tires fitted (good luck finding correct ones). Got DPF changed for free after warranty. Leather on the bolsters of the seats fade, rattle in back on passenger side over rough roads. Diesel consumption is 7.5-8.5, we more times take opel/vauxhall astra 1.4 for the trip rather then GLC due the cost although ride is more comfy and better.
Water ingress, are you serious? My non premium, non prestige aging Forester has been totally watertight, no gremlins either for a fraction of the price.
Yep Mitsubishi 380 was aussie. In all fairness most if not all Australian made cars made in thr last 20 years counting down from 2017 were all pretty darn good. I have a 2013 VF Commodore 193,000km not a single issue or water ingress problem. It's criminal we stopped making cars down under. They were no bullshit simple honest cars compared to today's overpriced over complex crap. Never going to part with my VF Commodore, AU Falcon latter model owners would agree
You nail most aspects about most cars, truly impressed with your laid back no nonsense approach to cars in general. We are sucked in by as you mentioned brand spin and clever targeted marketing, we go soft at the knees for so little. Truly respect, enjoy and watch your funny, quirky take on cars. P.S. Will you test the 1977-1992 Volvo 240 station wagon, from the aspect of how many hagstrom amp's you could fit and still feel happy in the back ? Respect Karl the cross-rhythm drummer 4/4
Keep telling yourself that. I’ve lived with several Mercedes because my other half always has to have one. They’re always in for service while I never have problems with my cars and I keep my cars twice and sometimes three times as long because I plan to retire early.
I had my 2015 250D since new and here are some of the issues I have encountered 1. tire hop on a full turn (solved by changing the tires) 2. Driver side auto window doesn't seem to cooperate every now and then ( Solved - NO) 3. Adaptive headlight inoperative (solved by disable it on settings) 4. Auxiliary battery malfunction ( solved by replacing the blown fuse) 5. harsh impact on pot holes or speed bumps ( Solved by trying to avoid them or go slow on them ) 6. Gear shifts become sluggish over time ( Solved by reset the transmission )
Bad timing for this video as I'm currently helping my sis sell her 2015 GLC250d 😆 However in fairness, she's had it since new and apart from some door lock issues very early on, it's been a very reliable family car for her. I've had it for the last month and am surprised at how well it's held up for 8 years and 90000km esp the interior, still looks new!
We have a 2021 GLC 43 AMG. It is a wonderful engine and transmission. The 6 has a ton of power and sounds great too!! I plan on keeping it for a while.
Adam I bought the first model GLC 250d in 2016. It was fully loaded with the works, as my mate was the sales manager. Yeah I did get looked after as I was then a valued client. I only had it for just over 18 months & no issues which you’d expect. It ticked all my boxes & the diesel fuel economy was exceptional. BUT, I just didn’t gel with it. So I traded it on a Skoda Superb 206kw wagon in mid 2017. Surprisingly I didn’t lose either kidney in the deal as Skoda wanted their product out there. I am still more than happy with my decision & the Skoda, to this date has been faultless. Yeah, yeah touch wood.
Kia / Hyundai have a specialist suspension guru in Australia whom recieves the prototype unit with a big box of shocks/ springs/ valves etc who drives them to death untill he gets it right. John Cadogan has spoken with him. Hence my Hyundai iLoad has an awesome front end!
I have had a Mazda CX5 for 10 years. I experienced zero problem with it. I went to the Mercedes dealership decided it was time to change my car and I would buy a Mercedes GLC 300 de. I test drove the GLC. And => I am keeping the Mazda. The reason is the GLC steering wheel is similar to my wife Evoque. It is numb in comparison to the immediate feeling you get in a CX5. I live high up in the mountains. The CX 5 is agile, nippy and reliable!
I had a 3016 that I bought used. It had 80k miles. The biggest expense at 80K miles is the PVC system. It’s costly about 3K. I am not sure why it was engineered like that. A lot of part have to come to get to it. I lost that car in a rear end collisio. It saved my life. An F150 hit me at highway speed at a red light. I bought a new one for that reason. I now have a 3023 4matic. I love it
Like this video, Thanks for pinpointing the interior issues which I have had and just gave up a long time ago. I have a rattling noise in my 2020 GLC300 and brought my car in to different dealerships several times, ended up finding nothing. After my last visit for this issue about 3 years ago, I just simply gave up lol it's so irritably random and coming from trunk area and driver seat. I won't pay to find and fix this random noise as it is just so random. Other than that, it is a really fun car to drive.
a good indicator is to see where they are assembled,I drive a 2018 Glc220 diesel,none of the above defects don't apply on my car,but mine is made in Germany,if in Australia check where they're assembled,the quality process is not to the same standards in every country,it can be that are parts produced in China or USA and there are not to the German standards. On other matters if u search on TH-cam there are some videos filmed inside the Mercedes factory in Stuttgart where auto parts are "selected" for Germany,China....do to quality.
First two things I immediately thought of when clicking on the video - air suspension compressor failure, and 725.0 + transfer case fluid changes on the 9-speeds.
Have had my 2016 Amg GLC 250 diesel 4 years with 150 000 kilometers on the meter without any other issues than a couple of ball joints replaced. Think it's really comfy and pleasant to drive. Consumption is at 5.7 liters/100 K. Can't complain
I have a 350d 2018. It has 29 000km on the clock so low but it's only used on long trips. No air suspension 4x4 pack & so far no issues, same tyres it came with nearly 7 years later.
These look fancy, but my gosh can the interiors creak and rattle. I recently sold my GLE and probably my biggest pet peeve was the interior. Especially with mine having the AMG pack it just meant the rattles were amplified because of the ever so slightly stiffer springs
I changed plugs self, the wire from coil to plug can be changed and I would recommend it takes brutal force to pull old wire off plug then maybe new coil that comes with wire on 2nd 100k plug change, first 50k plug change was really too early anyway they came out looking great at .030 gap
I have an old model C class and considering to change my car, not sure between upgrading to a newer C model or jumping to the GLC Class (Coupe)? If you all have any opinions would appreciate if you share.
cam shaft adjust is one of the common problem for this cars, I had experience, lucky is under the warranty, and flash coolant has to have computer linked to excute 4 electronic water pump to bleed the air
I’ve owned MB and Volvos for 25 years. I buy them 2-3 years old, low miles and usually certified. I keep them for between 10-12 years and never have any real problems until they hit 120K miles or so and are over 10 years old. Looking to buy a 2022 GLC300 now.
If I was going to buy a car in this sector I'd go with either the Santa Fe or Tucson. Was hoping that the safety features would be done in the style of Rammstein but that be best left for a powerful German made car lol I felt sorry for poor Hullsy with the what goes wrong on the shitbox engines lol Great job guy and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
I had a Merecedes GLK and had to get rid of it at 126K miles. I had the "oil in engine wiring harness that can fry the ECU" common problem and did not want to fork out the $8k-$10k repair bill. I understand that this is a very common problem that affects many all late model Mercedes engines. Because the problem occurs typically after 5 years of ownership, it is comfortably outside of Mercedes' warranty and hence responsibility. In talking to a few repair shops specializing in German cars, I'm surprised that it is such a common problem and also surprised that it is not mentioned in Mercedes car reviews.
I don't have a GLC, but have a 2016 C43 coupe which I've had from new. It shares a lot with the GLC. I've experienced none of the issues you described. In fact, it hasn't had a single thing go wrong with it. I've replaced the battery as I didn't drive it during covid and the rear brake pads. That's it. I find that people like to hate on big brands. Perhaps they should look after their cars better instead.
I’ve got a GLA45 here in Uk. 2018 and I’ve had it for over 4 years - faultless. And looks and goes like a rocket ship It gets dealer serviced when it should and fed the right grade of petrol. I truly can’t find anything as good to replace it
In US 2023 consumer reports Mercedes-Benz dropped to almost the bottom just above jeep and the Land Rover. The brand has been devaluing itself and the build quality dropped dramatically over the years, it deserve the landslide.
after having watched a ton of your vids (1000 thanks, as they say here in norway) and done some research myself, i would never buy a "modern" merc. had one, and that was the last 1. my next car, japanese, most likely toyota or lexus. reliable, comfortable and many of the look really cool. thnx redriven, you've saved so many people so many tears already.
@@hellouser5498 you know a bunch of those 2 liters suffer from fuel injector intermittent failures, like 2010 to whatever. and if i'm not mistaken merc could never fix that issue.
Heavy on fuel, rides too firm, buy a 30d instead or 30i Love B58 (had a G30 540i) but bc X3 is M40i in this variant it’s rides quite firmly and there’s no air suspension option It’s very loud at start up with a look at me exhaust note which is great when no one is around but if it’s a night in a quiet street it’s a bit embarrassing my X5 (M50i) does the same thing
I had a Mercedes SLK230 for 9 years, and while I cried like I'd lost a pet after I totaled it I will probably never own another German car unless I get some huge financial windfall.
My first mercedes glc 300 2016 was awesome, no issues, comfortable, powerful and smooth ride... I even did a little off roading. Driving in the winter (Colorado here) is a dream and passed many stuck Subarus during a very heavy snowstorm. Glc300 has more clearance than Subarus, is heavier so performs like a mini-tank-snowcat💖
2019 glc43 amg. 3.0 biturbo I do all my own maintenance car has 32k miles or 258mill kilometers (not sure how that works) mines black on black. Has not failed one time.
Current shape X3 is a much better car dynamically it’s ride handling is far superior and NVH levels are lower, plus ergonomics and seat comfort are better (even though X3 doesn’t have lumbar as standard). GLC has better cabin ambience and probably more available options (ventilation for seats, air suspension, slightly better premium sound option, elec steering column adjustment
Funny you mention the suspension issues on the amg versions. I drove to Westside bmw today to test drive a 2016 GLC43. Had 80,000ks on it, so very good for its age. Before we even took off I noticed the button in the boot for the air suspension didn’t work. We ended up test driving it and it was like driving a go cart. Ended the test drive early. On the drive back we got a drivetrain and suspension error. When we were walking back to our car they decided to road test the gov, as it was leaving you could see the suspension in its highest setting. Went and test drove a second one that just popped up by chance when we were looking at a Volvo, and it felt like a totally different car. Had all the options, and the suspension was fantastic (for a sport oriented car). Ended up buying it, for less money than the other one, with extended warranty!
I have Amg Glc43 no problem still like new solid 52k miles 5 yrs old I changed to non run flat acoustic tires and need to buy an aftermarket spare I think I heard spare is an opt available to order now I spent a lot for driveline fluid change 10k miles ahead of schedule I’m disabled and afraid to go under car to do myself although well within my skills maybe prepaid maintenance is good idea. The standard glc was not good enough to me when shopping and comparing
My GLC 250d 2016 front suspension starting falling apart at 60k miles. Replaced some parts but still wasn't driving as it should. Got rid of it. Trash suspension.
Probably not getting a mercedes ever again.. have a GLC220d.. After only 24k miles had a front Dif failure. All we mostly do is the school run and rarely drive longer than 15 to 30 miles. Plus, I find the car super uncomfortable for any journey longer than 20 minutes.
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Artico - 200/220d Real leather - 250/300 Sunroof rails need a mention on any panoramic roof BM need a mention easy to check Engine and transmission mounts worse in diesel but petrols can too esp over 100km V6 diesel is the pick of the crop but way more expensive because not many around. Leaking oil coolers are very common as mentioned
The most importand item at a used Merc is the oil change documentation. The utter most failures at the engine and turbo are related to bad oil. The car does also not need any oil from a DIY, it needs MB certified oil. The axis of the turbocharger does eg not run on ball bearings, but rotates freely (up to 150,000 RPM) in a narrow shaft, only with an oil film (similar to the piston). If the oil is bad or has the wrong specifications, the axle can contact the walls of the shaft and damage it. Consequence: Damage to the turbocharger, first an oil leak, then the turbo rumbles.
6 years with glc43. Warranty fixed start/stop battery and leak in suspension air bags. Warranty up.. Washer bottle leaking and battery weak again. Right rear tire wears oddly fast :). Feels and looks like ‘new’. Edgy performance of AMG is still in your face. No ‘slop’.
"If you happen to own one of them, let us know in the comments" Well damn, I came here cause I work at a dealership and am thinking of buying 43 AMG that just got traded in. Apparently I have to wait now
People are going to be mad about the Hyundai/Kia comment, but it's true. They drive similarly the only thing you're missing out on is the refinement. I was surprised with how well the Tuscon handled.
Had a new c-class amg line premium plus.... engine mount went after 1600 miles, and glass panoramic sunroof creaked so badly it honestly sounded like it was going to explode. Dealer experience wasn't great either. When they took it in to repair my engine mount, the technician chipped the paint at the front of the car, parked my car half on the pavement at the front of the showroom, car wasn't washed and covered in workshop dust which resulted in a scraped windscreen as when i started the car the windscreen wipers stalk was in the active position... would never own another one.
... the one thing I would say is if you are considering a Merc, check where it was manufactured. The c-class is built in South Africa. I owned a new e-class coupe after the c-class, and the e-class was built in Germany. I had no issues with the e-class whatsoever.
My 2016 250d glc has just started to slip out of D to N when I'm stopped with in 10 seconds does anyone else have this problem I've been told that I need a whole new transmission is this true ?
At the end of the day, even the worst reliable brands usually have 95% of their cars fairly reliable across the lineups but there will always be a model with a particular design flaw to watch out for and maintain ahead of time IF it's not a catastrophic design flaw. Even Porsche has IMS LMD bearing design flaw issues, and even that is overblown to how many cars are legitimately affected. Cast majority of cars are reliable "enough" unless you are absolutely car illiterate and don't even know when to do maintenance which is ironically 90% of the driving population
If ever I saw a one sided and biased report! We have two GLC's in the family, both diesels (250 & 350) with one also just below 150 000km on the one. Both have been utterly reliable and have non of the 'faults' mentioned in this test. LOL, I suppose we are just lucky then?
Honest question, did you watch the entire video? Only asking because we say at 16:09 that there are plenty of owners out there with completely faultless experiences. At the end also recommend buying the car if you find the right example. The extent of the criticism is that in terms of reliability and build quality, they're basically on par with most non-luxury brands. How did you arrive at this being a completely biased review?
I did watch and it seems that (and you also admit to it) that you received most of your information second hand eg. via complaints on online forums etc. Did you do an investigation to determine how prevalent these problems are and what % of vehicle owners suffered from these same problems or faults? Because of the nature of such forums you will find more complaints than compliments as people tend to reach out to other forumites when they are having problems and the average Joe who might be very happy with his car will never visit. To take this information and then broadcast it as a general problem or symptom affecting the range is where the bias comes in, in my opinion. Maybe these problems are not as common as what your video suggest? You even mention that the vehicle you drove also had none of them. So, my biggest gripe with your review is that it creates a possibly underserved perception of a vehicle that has lots of problems when in reality it might not be so for most owners? This obviously is only my opinion, but currently having two of these vehicles in our family, with neither one of them ever having had any of the problems mentioned or even any other problems at all with almost 200 000 km covered between the two just goes to show that they might not be as unreliable or problematic as what comes across in your review? Nonetheless, I do enjoy your channel and will keep on watching, thank you!@@ReDriven
The information is not purely anecdotal. As much as we look at forums and owner's groups to gain an idea of the common issues, we do our best to connect the dots to find what can be considered 'common'. This is then referenced against mechanics and their experience to paint the most accurate picture of a particular model. Of course, we can never check every single model to see how close we are to the mark, but this is more of a limitation of the research, not a bias. A bias would infer we are going out of our way to ignore or misrepresent those facts for an agenda. We can only do our best in terms of research. This is why we make it clear in every video that most examples won't have any or only a few issues.
LOL so your anecdotal report of personal ownership trumps gathered reports from other owners? These guys do a fantastic job of sniffing out common issues. Doesn’t mean they all have it and there is some other stuff going on that’s difficult to quantify in a cross section of users.
I left the video running to grab lunch when Jim started. I came back 20 minutes later and he was still going. Sounds like just about everything can go wrong with these ones.
There is one thing I don't like about European brands: DIY repair prevention. Just like the one in the video. If you try to fit a 2nd hand headlight from a wrecker, it will NOT work. You will find silly things like low beam not working and/or turn signals are reversed etc. You will HAVE TO programme/calibrate the 2nd hand headlight with an expensive diagnostic pad. Try to replace the battery yourself? Sorry you will have to programme it as well. Try to replace the air struct? Oh sorry you will need 2~3 exlcusive "special tools" and yes they are expensive.
Yeah that shit things i don't like neither, they are literally forcing u to go to their brand workshop which is so expensive, and u can't repair those car normally on home like any 90-2010 car which u can change battery, airbags, sensors, headlights, without having to code everything, that's why i am indecisive about buying a new car, because the only thing that i like about new cars is they have a screen with navigation, that u can put in older cars normally...
@@Dexspic The NEW European car design philosophy: over engineering mechanical parts with weak points in hard to reach places so once it fail it will incur a lot of labour; over eingineering electronic parts so that 2nd hand part swap is impossible. In other words, planned obsolescence.
My mum had a horrendous experience with the 2015 GLC250d. Bought brand new for 90k, the shitbox wouldnt start 1 year in, dealer couldnt figure out whats wrong with it and my mum missed a fuckton of work because of it. Brake pads needing replacement every year, each replacement costing 1k for parts and labour. Aftersales support is worse than a non luxury brand- always running out of hire cars (wonder why, modern mercs are shitboxes that always end up in the shop), and incompetent techs who dont know what theyre doing. She sold the junker 2 years in and got a Lexus RX450h and couldnt be happier. Got it to 160k kms and absolutely nothing wrong with it before trading it in for a new NX250h. Servicing, although pricey as expected of a luxury brand, has been such a pleasure for my parents- they deliver a hire car to your house, pick up your car and take it back to you without you having to do anything. As Lexus cars share the same chassis and therefore parts with the toyota fleet (RX=Kluger, UX=CHR, NX=Rav4 etc), parts and consumables are as cheap as a toyota. Get a lexus folks if you want a luxury car, if not just stick to the good old Japanese built cars. Im keeping my Toyobaru 86 till its worth its scrap metal.
If you must get a Mercedes-Benz in this size, go for the GLK. Especially the 3.5 petrol V6. You'll still have issues, but less than the GLC as the GLK is based on the W204 C Class, which is the last reliable C Class, IMO.
You menttion is this video how competitive Kia Sportage is in comparison , last year my step daughter ordered a new Sportage and then realised the payload was around 400kg, she then added up what she and her husband and two teenage kids weighed and that came to 390kg, (I bet there are a lot of people out there with this weighty problem) so a tank full of fuel would put them over weight, even before they put all their crap in it (she has since changed her order to a Sorento), I see the Merc has a payload of 660kg, so it could cope with four heavy people and their stuff where the Sportage won't.
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Good morning I just heard someone brought a Benz 350 gle 2020 with 56,000 miles and his engines failed , the sound from the engine was loud knocking . He brought it used . What miles is best to buy in this model I’m in US
Had mine for 4 years, modest 60k mileage, no problems so far. Regular maintenance and being careful, the ride, comfort, speed and premium experience is just as good as the first day.
Ah german fanboys, who think 60k mileage is something to sing about.60k mileage is not enough to give verdict on whether the car is good enough
60k 🤣
Ours has 137,000 still no problems with it
@@Jykobe491 in europe 60k KM is ALOT. We dondt live in BIG countries to make like 30000km a year fam.
@@Gril018 it is still poor anyhow you look at it
One of the best, most practical car-review channels on TH-cam. If you're in Australia - the best.
Appreciate that, mate!!
watching in eu also!!
@@ReDrivenwill regular gas engine has the same issues? Please respond
I feel MB stopped being a good quality luxury aspirational brand, sometime in the 90s, or 00s.
I had this conversation with my mechanic just yesterday. He reckons it was about the time they got chummy with Chrysler.
My father owned a W123, a W201 and a facelifted W203 200 CDI. The W123 and W201 were meh. Nothing near like the quality of a Lexus or a Toyota. I admit: they were from another decades. The W203 was amazing: 400.000 km with some problems, but the engine kept on going without changing the double timing chain.
The last great vehicle was the W211
In fact, all Teutonic branded vehicles are pretty crappy these days. It’s only in Asia that they are perceived as prestigious, IMHO
Absolutely!!!!!
Jim is the real star of the show. The guy is an absolute encyclopaedia. I just watch this first before the rest of the video
Watch the show Klokje Rond and put subtitles on. You'll be amazed.
What I have learned from owners of premium cars: first they say they never had problems with their cars and after a while they start telling the truth about their countless dealer visits.
It genuinely is hit and miss. Genuine first account here : my dad has always bought premium euro stuff and has zero major issues just general wear and tear and that also minor stuff, myself included owning a polo gti aw for the past 3+ years absoloutly no issues, all my cousins and uncles same story. I guess it really depends on maintenance and luck.
Ditto!!!
@@rishigannamani7340totally agree!
Own Volvo's, have for awhile,never buy new, find a good speacilist mechanic, never go to the dealerships unless you have to. Have always gone diesels, haven't had an issue. Saftey levels through the roof, best seats in any car I ever had an lovely to drive.
@@wackpaddyknickknackDiesel is the best!
"well documented problems such as the piston breaking in half..." That's pretty much all I needed to hear...
Yeah. Look, I am saying this as a German with a relative who worked as a Mercedes mechanic all his life until he retired:
Don't buy a modern Mercedes. The brand still works but its cars don't.
If you want a Mercedes deserving of the name you gotta buy one from 1999 or earlier.
Back when the engineers ruled the company. They ENGINEERED the car and then a price was set according to the cost of the engineering and building process. You got what you paid for. Literally. That's how Mercedes became known for quality.
The cars were expensive for a (very good) reason. But modern Mercedes is nothing like that. Modern Mercedes operates like all the other brands. Setting a price first, then engineering and building toward that price point.
(and then charging extra for the brand name)
@@barbarusbloodshed6347 I'd say that 2006 is the last good year for Mercedes, maybe excluding the SLK/CLK for a few more years in their more basic packages. The day the M113 got replaced by the M156 was when the switch truly occurred. Don't get me wrong, when those 6.2L's run great they are MONSTERS but they usually have a life expectancy around 110k-130k miles, sometimes less, until a head bolt needs upgraded. Also, casting errors started becoming a BIG problem. Whether it be Blocks or camshafts or pistons or rods or cylinder walls, they just don't last without serious $$$. The M112/M113/M113k? I honestly don't think they really have an expiration date. They just keep going and going with basic maintenance. 300 to 400 to 500k miles and up, there was an SL I think that has 800k+ miles out there. Even those 5-speed transmissions were tough as nails, they would almost last as long as the engine with fluid changes every 40k miles and maybe a conductor plate at 300k miles. At around the same time the M156 came out, the 7G Shiftronic came out and while they can handle power pretty well, they had reliability issues as well! To engineer motors that go a million miles and drop down to barely 100k, that's an absolute travesty!
Owned a GLC 43 AMG and loved it, went like a rocket! Traded it for a GLE 450 as I needed something bigger.
Hi, how was the comfort on the glc 43?
Was the suspension too stiff ?
@@ChrisKeymani have a GLC43. Fantastic handling and fast. Air suspension takes you through corners much flatter - I found the GLC300 to roll a lot in corners - the 43 air suspension solves this even in comfort mode. Yes it can be a bit rough on poor surfaces. Key is to move off run flats as soon as you can - michelin cross climate 2 sizes to fit.
I know that Mercedes quality has gone down a bit, but my family has a 2019 C300 with 139k km on it, and we’ve had almost no problems with it. Especially when it comes to build quality, it has been very solid. Before this we also had a 2017 C300 and again, no problems even after 80k+ kms.
I believe that a lots Mercedes old engines are having design flaws.but nowadays they basic fix all the defects
139,000kms isn't actually that much for a modern car. Let's see how the vehicle is at 239,000kms.
@@HardstylePete 139k km is a lot of wear and tear on a car especially when it's city driving. The majority of the kms on this car is from city driving since new, which is very different than a car with that many kms from mostly highway driving.
@@Howard24 but it really isn't a lot. City driving in a reliable car should be in excess of 250,000kms without significant repeated issues.
@@HardstylePete 150,000km is quite a bit actually.
"We just think when it comes to prestige brands, you're buying image first and quality second."
~ReDriven.
Yes, we also watched the video.
Statement of the year
@@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 Relax dude, geez!
I've just started watching this. And I have three hit predictions:
1. You're going to not recommend buying this vehicle unless you're mechanically minded yourself.
2. The word "s*it" will be used at least twice.
3. You're going to rummage through the sunglass holder to find out what brand of sunnies the owner wears.
😅
We like this game…
But number 2 is low hanging fruit, surely.
Should add judge musical tastes if CDs are in the car lol.
Perhaps an official ReDriven Bingo game is in order
@@ReDriven be good for April fool's day this year.
Are there scratchy plastics that are present in like EVERY DASHBOARD
10 minutes of "Whats goes wrong" ..........enough said.
Crazy how these have heck lots of issues compared to their normal W205 C-Class brothers. My Sibling had one till 193k km with a C220d OM651 Diesel Engine. Everything was running fine but his family grew and he opted to go for an E-Class W213 E350d.
Had mine 4 years , 60k on it , apart from 2 dealer software recalls , absolutely no problems at all , great car
I have a 2018 GLC 300 that I bought used 2 years ago and it's absolutely solid. I have about 84k miles on it and it's a daily driver.
You hit the nail on the head about style over substance. The German brands used to be too for engineering, not anymore. They have cut corners more than many manufacturers and the cost cutting is so obvious when you dive into the engine bay and the general car beyond the flashy interior. And the premium brands absolutely rip their customers off for parts and labour. People forget that a lot of the engineering is actually Nissan and Renault (A-Class = Infiniti QX). Great video guys
I owned a 2016 GLC250 from new and had the airmatic option (air suspension) have to say the ride quality is superb until I had a warning light showing up suggesting there’s an issue with the airmatic system just at 5 year mark with below 60k km mileage. Dealer initially diagnosed it saying both front air springs are dead needs to be replaced and quote A$6800 and I was advised that the car needs to stay in dealership as it’s not suitable for drive. Waited 3 month for the parts to be shipped from overseas (it was during the supply chain crisis) they called me saying that they found the pump is dead too and wanted me to pay an additional A$5100 for the pump - had to tell the dealer that I’m bringing this issue to ACCC and not paying a cent for the extra issue they told me after they had the car for three months. Ended up only paid what was originally agreed and had a ‘good will’ warranty split from MB for the replacement of the pump. Not touching any MB in my life - what a bloody nightmare.
Burnt out pump is common on airmatic cars with leak if you leave the leak too long
Goodwill is a good point that most people don’t know about and why servicing at a dealer during warranty and just outside of warranty can be beneficial with euro brands
I’ve had cars upto 7 years old with goodwill claims with Audi, BM and Benz and only paid partial contributions for repair
@@dorianvisser1922 You are right about the pump burnt out with leave it too long - my complaint for the dealer was they were very confident that the air spring is the problem and said no other issues. I thought they had tested the pump already but was only told that it was broken after waiting for 3 months - my theory to the dealer is then what if it’s just the pump at the beginning - and statistically for two air spring to break at the exact same time is very rare - on that seperate note I did have the car always serviced by the dealer might be the reason they did the good will split.
I own a 2020 GLC 300. This video seems to have an overall misleading agenda. I've had no issues at all. The only complaint I have is being stopped to get compliments all the time.
When the "what goes wrong" section takes up half the video you know it's a real Merc
I’ve heard a lot of bad experiences with newer Mercs. On the other hand, many say the W212 generation of E-class is one of the best built “new” Mercedes. Any chance of a review on that one? Both the pre- and post-facelifted versions!
W210 I reckon.
W212 is an excellent car
Buy the V6 350 and the 5.4 litre (called 5.5) V8 they are the most reliable
4 cylinder engines can have same issues and other Inc stretched timing chains and cam gear issues
500 has Airmatic as standard
So look for an E350 with normal sunroof not panoramic on steel springs not Airmatic with vision pack and you won’t go wrong
E350d would be next choice heaps more torque and better fuel economy but leaky oil cooler so keep a couple of grand in your pocket for repairs
I agree with points made above. I purchased a 2012 E350 W212 low mileage example for my parents. They’ve now had it several years and absolutely love it. It has the basic luxuries one would need while keeping everything relatively simple. There’s a reason why the W212 Mercedes was used as taxis all over the world.
My suggestion to anyone who is buying a new vehicle and it has to be from a prestige brand, buy a Lexus. You will get the same driving experience as a European brand but without the nightmares.
Shame lexus don't make a sporty performance oriented SUV.
Everyone likes Lexus on the internet, but in Europe they don't sell well. BTW I own a Lexus CT.
@@Elaba_ Does anything Japanese sell well in Europe? I think it's tough to compete with car manufacturers that operate inside the EU
Lexus is not even in the same ball park when it comes to luxury and driving dynamics, agreed they will outlive any German vehicle…. But Lexus vehicles just don’t excite the driver.
@@dwindeyer Yep, Nissan are very common, despite the fact they they are now crap. Toyotas and Hondas sell well and a few Mazdas.
Nice to see a car we own and what to expect what can go wrong or what to be cautious about. Thanks ReDriven! Isnt this most sold MB currently? I can say for end 2016/early2017 220d 190.000km, it is true that bump stops under "Comfort" setting hit every time over speedbumps ("Sport" mode prevents hitting bumpstops), squeaking brakes, crabwalking also. But crabwalking can be solved with proper tires fitted (good luck finding correct ones). Got DPF changed for free after warranty. Leather on the bolsters of the seats fade, rattle in back on passenger side over rough roads. Diesel consumption is 7.5-8.5, we more times take opel/vauxhall astra 1.4 for the trip rather then GLC due the cost although ride is more comfy and better.
Water ingress, are you serious? My non premium, non prestige aging Forester has been totally watertight, no gremlins either for a fraction of the price.
Same as my ' 380 ' Japanese quality.
@@mvnorsel6354 Pretty sure the 380's were built right here in Aus.
Yep Mitsubishi 380 was aussie. In all fairness most if not all Australian made cars made in thr last 20 years counting down from 2017 were all pretty darn good. I have a 2013 VF Commodore 193,000km not a single issue or water ingress problem. It's criminal we stopped making cars down under. They were no bullshit simple honest cars compared to today's overpriced over complex crap. Never going to part with my VF Commodore, AU Falcon latter model owners would agree
You nail most aspects about most cars, truly impressed with your laid back no nonsense approach to cars in general.
We are sucked in by as you mentioned brand spin and clever targeted marketing, we go soft at the knees for so little.
Truly respect, enjoy and watch your funny, quirky take on cars.
P.S. Will you test the 1977-1992 Volvo 240 station wagon, from the aspect of how many hagstrom amp's you could fit and still feel happy in the back ?
Respect
Karl the cross-rhythm drummer 4/4
Pistons breaking in half??😂😂😂😂 Wave farewell to your engine.
It affects a very small % of cars. as most catastrophic issues are in any car design.
If it was very high chance it would have been caught in QA
Keep telling yourself that. I’ve lived with several Mercedes because my other half always has to have one. They’re always in for service while I never have problems with my cars and I keep my cars twice and sometimes three times as long because I plan to retire early.
My friend has a GLC220d 4 Matic with 460.000 km. Its been so good
Like both ours. Maybe your friend was also just lucky?
@@awiethompson9675 Very good and beautiful cars! Want one to! But I live in the city right now so my Smart Fortwo is perfect for me
My Neighbour has a GLC with 800,000,000,000 Km still running fine.
I had my 2015 250D since new and here are some of the issues I have encountered 1. tire hop on a full turn (solved by changing the tires) 2. Driver side auto window doesn't seem to cooperate every now and then ( Solved - NO) 3. Adaptive headlight inoperative (solved by disable it on settings) 4. Auxiliary battery malfunction ( solved by replacing the blown fuse) 5. harsh impact on pot holes or speed bumps ( Solved by trying to avoid them or go slow on them ) 6. Gear shifts become sluggish over time ( Solved by reset the transmission )
Bad timing for this video as I'm currently helping my sis sell her 2015 GLC250d 😆 However in fairness, she's had it since new and apart from some door lock issues very early on, it's been a very reliable family car for her. I've had it for the last month and am surprised at how well it's held up for 8 years and 90000km esp the interior, still looks new!
We have a 2021 GLC 43 AMG. It is a wonderful engine and transmission. The 6 has a ton of power and sounds great too!! I plan on keeping it for a while.
I have always thought the "4MATIC" badge cheapens this car because I think of "4 speed automatic".
German brands will always find new ways of doing things, including naming their AWD systems.
@@damilolaakanni4Matic has been a model reference for decades.
💯
4 speed automatic would be 4G-tronic the first of the torque converter 4 speed autos released in W126
I think of the Knit-omatic from Wallace and Gromit - Preston the dog fell into it. Still gives me nightmares
Adam I bought the first model GLC 250d in 2016. It was fully loaded with the works, as my mate was the sales manager. Yeah I did get looked after as I was then a valued client. I only had it for just over 18 months & no issues which you’d expect. It ticked all my boxes & the diesel fuel economy was exceptional. BUT, I just didn’t gel with it. So I traded it on a Skoda Superb 206kw wagon in mid 2017. Surprisingly I didn’t lose either kidney in the deal as Skoda wanted their product out there. I am still more than happy with my decision & the Skoda, to this date has been faultless. Yeah, yeah touch wood.
Sadly, we cannot get Skodas in the US.
You can get a better skoda. Its called audi@@georgeklimes7604
I’m calling bullshit. There is no one on the planet that swaps a GLC for a Skoda.
Kia / Hyundai have a specialist suspension guru in Australia whom recieves the prototype unit with a big box of shocks/ springs/ valves etc who drives them to death untill he gets it right.
John Cadogan has spoken with him.
Hence my Hyundai iLoad has an awesome front end!
No doubt John has given his advice, that's why they handle well in Australia.
Ah that korean shill
I have had a Mazda CX5 for 10 years. I experienced zero problem with it. I went to the Mercedes dealership decided it was time to change my car and I would buy a Mercedes GLC 300 de. I test drove the GLC. And => I am keeping the Mazda. The reason is the GLC steering wheel is similar to my wife Evoque. It is numb in comparison to the immediate feeling you get in a CX5. I live high up in the mountains. The CX 5 is agile, nippy and reliable!
I had a 3016 that I bought used. It had 80k miles. The biggest expense at 80K miles is the PVC system. It’s costly about 3K. I am not sure why it was engineered like that. A lot of part have to come to get to it.
I lost that car in a rear end collisio. It saved my life. An F150 hit me at highway speed at a red light. I bought a new one for that reason. I now have a 3023 4matic. I love it
Like this video, Thanks for pinpointing the interior issues which I have had and just gave up a long time ago. I have a rattling noise in my 2020 GLC300 and brought my car in to different dealerships several times, ended up finding nothing. After my last visit for this issue about 3 years ago, I just simply gave up lol it's so irritably random and coming from trunk area and driver seat. I won't pay to find and fix this random noise as it is just so random. Other than that, it is a really fun car to drive.
Mine is 2019 with 400.000 and had 0 issues except for regular service
a good indicator is to see where they are assembled,I drive a 2018 Glc220 diesel,none of the above defects don't apply on my car,but mine is made in Germany,if in Australia check where they're assembled,the quality process is not to the same standards in every country,it can be that are parts produced in China or USA and there are not to the German standards.
On other matters if u search on TH-cam there are some videos filmed inside the Mercedes factory in Stuttgart where auto parts are "selected" for Germany,China....do to quality.
Worth watching all of your Mercedes reviews for the comments on the 'click' noise the vents make haha. Great content with good humour mate.
My Neighbour has a GLC with 800,000,000,000 Km still running fine.
Oh good he should have overtaken voyager 1.👍🏼
First two things I immediately thought of when clicking on the video - air suspension compressor failure, and 725.0 + transfer case fluid changes on the 9-speeds.
Mb in early 2000: quality bench mark - Lexus.
Mb after 2010 : quality benchmark - alfa Romeo.
that's a good one! in design though, they're still running behind Toyota/Lexus. ridiculous.
@@lvpvs23insane copium
Actually Alfa is way above the germans these days. According to quality surveys.
Have had my 2016 Amg GLC 250 diesel 4 years with 150 000 kilometers on the meter without any other issues than a couple of ball joints replaced. Think it's really comfy and pleasant to drive. Consumption is at 5.7 liters/100 K. Can't complain
I have a 350d 2018. It has 29 000km on the clock so low but it's only used on long trips. No air suspension 4x4 pack & so far no issues, same tyres it came with nearly 7 years later.
These look fancy, but my gosh can the interiors creak and rattle. I recently sold my GLE and probably my biggest pet peeve was the interior. Especially with mine having the AMG pack it just meant the rattles were amplified because of the ever so slightly stiffer springs
4 years in mine and not a single issue. I know several other owners also that say the same.
I changed plugs self, the wire from coil to plug can be changed and I would recommend it takes brutal force to pull old wire off plug then maybe new coil that comes with wire on 2nd 100k plug change, first 50k plug change was really too early anyway they came out looking great at .030 gap
I have an old model C class and considering to change my car, not sure between upgrading to a newer C model or jumping to the GLC Class (Coupe)? If you all have any opinions would appreciate if you share.
I drove an x4 30i on Saturday. It is the single best balanced suv I have ever driven. Build quality was also impeccable
Agreed the X3/X4 chassis is way better than Q5 and GLC (not sure about current GLC)
Had my 2018 GLC for 6 years it has 30,000 miles and no issues at all
30000 Meilen ist nichts.
Had a couple of W124's and a W126. Good cars. I wouldn't go near anything from recent years.
cam shaft adjust is one of the common problem for this cars, I had experience, lucky is under the warranty, and flash coolant has to have computer linked to excute 4 electronic water pump to bleed the air
I’ve owned MB and Volvos for 25 years. I buy them 2-3 years old, low miles and usually certified. I keep them for between 10-12 years and never have any real problems until they hit 120K miles or so and are over 10 years old. Looking to buy a 2022 GLC300 now.
If I was going to buy a car in this sector I'd go with either the Santa Fe or Tucson.
Was hoping that the safety features would be done in the style of Rammstein but that be best left for a powerful German made car lol
I felt sorry for poor Hullsy with the what goes wrong on the shitbox engines lol
Great job guy and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.
I had a Merecedes GLK and had to get rid of it at 126K miles. I had the "oil in engine wiring harness that can fry the ECU" common problem and did not want to fork out the $8k-$10k repair bill. I understand that this is a very common problem that affects many all late model Mercedes engines. Because the problem occurs typically after 5 years of ownership, it is comfortably outside of Mercedes' warranty and hence responsibility. In talking to a few repair shops specializing in German cars, I'm surprised that it is such a common problem and also surprised that it is not mentioned in Mercedes car reviews.
Have had one for over 6 years. Only issue has been the brakes. Just bought a new model one hopefully it’s good
Check out the price of replacing the PCV system….not if it fails….when it fails.
I was thinking of getting the GLC 63s V8. Hence would like to know the issues. Thanks
I don't have a GLC, but have a 2016 C43 coupe which I've had from new. It shares a lot with the GLC. I've experienced none of the issues you described. In fact, it hasn't had a single thing go wrong with it. I've replaced the battery as I didn't drive it during covid and the rear brake pads. That's it. I find that people like to hate on big brands. Perhaps they should look after their cars better instead.
A lot of haters of MB out there. Envious to say the least!
I’ve got a GLA45 here in Uk. 2018 and I’ve had it for over 4 years - faultless. And looks and goes like a rocket ship
It gets dealer serviced when it should and fed the right grade of petrol.
I truly can’t find anything as good to replace it
Same here!
@@PhilbyFavouritesI mean, so long as you don’t have to look at it.
In US 2023 consumer reports Mercedes-Benz dropped to almost the bottom just above jeep and the Land Rover. The brand has been devaluing itself and the build quality dropped dramatically over the years, it deserve the landslide.
after having watched a ton of your vids (1000 thanks, as they say here in norway) and done some research myself, i would never buy a "modern" merc. had one, and that was the last 1. my next car, japanese, most likely toyota or lexus. reliable, comfortable and many of the look really cool. thnx redriven, you've saved so many people so many tears already.
Apparently Mercs e class 2l diesles lasts forever, taxis use them.They are like Camry's in AU
@@hellouser5498 you know a bunch of those 2 liters suffer from fuel injector intermittent failures, like 2010 to whatever. and if i'm not mistaken merc could never fix that issue.
Can you review any BMW with the B58 engine, preferably X3, please?
Heavy on fuel, rides too firm, buy a 30d instead or 30i
Love B58 (had a G30 540i) but bc X3 is M40i in this variant it’s rides quite firmly and there’s no air suspension option
It’s very loud at start up with a look at me exhaust note which is great when no one is around but if it’s a night in a quiet street it’s a bit embarrassing my X5 (M50i) does the same thing
One of the best channels to inform me on cars I should never buy when the heart says yes and the mind says no.
I’ll never buy another Teutonic branded vehicle after my stint with a E46 BMW
I had a W 203 Mercedes. It was that good that I'm about to buy another Mazda. The Germans have lost the plot in the last 20 years.
I had a Mercedes SLK230 for 9 years, and while I cried like I'd lost a pet after I totaled it I will probably never own another German car unless I get some huge financial windfall.
@@danmccarthy4700 Lovely car. I'm envious. Did it cost a fortune to maintain?
@@davidbrayshaw3529 It did. The engine and transmission were bombproof but it was a Pandora's box of expensive electrical gremlins.
My first mercedes glc 300 2016 was awesome, no issues, comfortable, powerful and smooth ride... I even did a little off roading. Driving in the winter (Colorado here) is a dream and passed many stuck Subarus during a very heavy snowstorm. Glc300 has more clearance than Subarus, is heavier so performs like a mini-tank-snowcat💖
2019 glc43 amg. 3.0 biturbo I do all my own maintenance car has 32k miles or 258mill kilometers (not sure how that works) mines black on black. Has not failed one time.
Great video! For the same generation and for a similar spec, would you consider the X3 a better overall 13:48 choice?
Current shape X3 is a much better car dynamically it’s ride handling is far superior and NVH levels are lower, plus ergonomics and seat comfort are better (even though X3 doesn’t have lumbar as standard). GLC has better cabin ambience and probably more available options (ventilation for seats, air suspension, slightly better premium sound option, elec steering column adjustment
Great reviews, you don't ramble endlessly with nonsensical jokes, that only amuse yourself like some other popular YT Aussie reviewer.
Cadogan or Cad-uh-gan
Mechanically are these issues more common on the 4cyl only? Or V6 too
Funny you mention the suspension issues on the amg versions. I drove to Westside bmw today to test drive a 2016 GLC43. Had 80,000ks on it, so very good for its age.
Before we even took off I noticed the button in the boot for the air suspension didn’t work. We ended up test driving it and it was like driving a go cart. Ended the test drive early. On the drive back we got a drivetrain and suspension error.
When we were walking back to our car they decided to road test the gov, as it was leaving you could see the suspension in its highest setting.
Went and test drove a second one that just popped up by chance when we were looking at a Volvo, and it felt like a totally different car. Had all the options, and the suspension was fantastic (for a sport oriented car). Ended up buying it, for less money than the other one, with extended warranty!
I've had mine 6 years, 55000 miles, other than a new nox sensor, no problems, very very happy
I have Amg Glc43 no problem still like new solid 52k miles 5 yrs old I changed to non run flat acoustic tires and need to buy an aftermarket spare I think I heard spare is an opt available to order now I spent a lot for driveline fluid change 10k miles ahead of schedule I’m disabled and afraid to go under car to do myself although well within my skills maybe prepaid maintenance is good idea. The standard glc was not good enough to me when shopping and comparing
I have a 2017 GLC43 which I love. Happy for you to review if you want.
My GLC 250d 2016 front suspension starting falling apart at 60k miles. Replaced some parts but still wasn't driving as it should. Got rid of it. Trash suspension.
Stange how you did not mention the inlet manifold problem on the 2.1 diesel, it on its own is more common than all the other engine problems combined
Probably not getting a mercedes ever again.. have a GLC220d.. After only 24k miles had a front Dif failure. All we mostly do is the school run and rarely drive longer than 15 to 30 miles. Plus, I find the car super uncomfortable for any journey longer than 20 minutes.
Regarding Apple Carplay in the pre facelift model 2015-2019:
Until the Modelyear 2018, there is no option to code factory Apple Carplay or Android Auto.
From the modelyear 2018 until the end of production of the pre facelift model, you can code Carplay or AA but ONLY with the standard Audio 20 system, with the COMMAND system, there is no possibility to code factory Carplay!
Ah yes, the drug dealing stay-home mum's car of choice.
Artico - 200/220d
Real leather - 250/300
Sunroof rails need a mention on any panoramic roof BM need a mention easy to check
Engine and transmission mounts worse in diesel but petrols can too esp over 100km
V6 diesel is the pick of the crop but way more expensive because not many around. Leaking oil coolers are very common as mentioned
*MB not BM product
I can hear the rattle sound when u drove the car. Is it coming from panel same like c200 and c300😅
Mentioned the 2.1 diesel (OM651)... But wasn't that replaced in about 2016 by the 2.0 diesel (OM654) which you didn't talk about?
OM654 Glc not sold in Australia. Facelift only came with Petrol
@@rcast3763 ah ok
It was but they started with E Class first then implemented on GLC on 2019 with the facelift
Guys the last Mercedes that was made premium we still had the soviet union
The most importand item at a used Merc is the oil change documentation. The utter most failures at the engine and turbo are related to bad oil. The car does also not need any oil from a DIY, it needs MB certified oil. The axis of the turbocharger does eg not run on ball bearings, but rotates freely (up to 150,000 RPM) in a narrow shaft, only with an oil film (similar to the piston). If the oil is bad or has the wrong specifications, the axle can contact the walls of the shaft and damage it. Consequence: Damage to the turbocharger, first an oil leak, then the turbo rumbles.
6 years with glc43. Warranty fixed start/stop battery and leak in suspension air bags. Warranty up.. Washer bottle leaking and battery weak again. Right rear tire wears oddly fast :). Feels and looks like ‘new’. Edgy performance of AMG is still in your face. No ‘slop’.
"If you happen to own one of them, let us know in the comments"
Well damn, I came here cause I work at a dealership and am thinking of buying 43 AMG that just got traded in. Apparently I have to wait now
People are going to be mad about the Hyundai/Kia comment, but it's true. They drive similarly the only thing you're missing out on is the refinement. I was surprised with how well the Tuscon handled.
They are not as goof at high speeds.
At least in North America there are thousands of lawsuits against Kia/hyundai for engine failures
@@martinsvensson6884 how many people are driving over 130 mph regularly?
@@vintagehaynesflute yet Toyota just had recalls for wheels falling off and fires. Honda and Subaru also just had recalls for fires.
Had a new c-class amg line premium plus.... engine mount went after 1600 miles, and glass panoramic sunroof creaked so badly it honestly sounded like it was going to explode. Dealer experience wasn't great either. When they took it in to repair my engine mount, the technician chipped the paint at the front of the car, parked my car half on the pavement at the front of the showroom, car wasn't washed and covered in workshop dust which resulted in a scraped windscreen as when i started the car the windscreen wipers stalk was in the active position... would never own another one.
... the one thing I would say is if you are considering a Merc, check where it was manufactured. The c-class is built in South Africa. I owned a new e-class coupe after the c-class, and the e-class was built in Germany. I had no issues with the e-class whatsoever.
I have 1 here in usa with 110000 miles an no problems running strong. Is gkc 300 2.o engine 241 hp
Are the swoosh sound effects new or have I only just noticed them on this video??
My 2016 250d glc has just started to slip out of D to N when I'm stopped with in 10 seconds does anyone else have this problem I've been told that I need a whole new transmission is this true ?
At the end of the day, even the worst reliable brands usually have 95% of their cars fairly reliable across the lineups but there will always be a model with a particular design flaw to watch out for and maintain ahead of time IF it's not a catastrophic design flaw. Even Porsche has IMS LMD bearing design flaw issues, and even that is overblown to how many cars are legitimately affected.
Cast majority of cars are reliable "enough" unless you are absolutely car illiterate and don't even know when to do maintenance which is ironically 90% of the driving population
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If ever I saw a one sided and biased report! We have two GLC's in the family, both diesels (250 & 350) with one also just below 150 000km on the one. Both have been utterly reliable and have non of the 'faults' mentioned in this test. LOL, I suppose we are just lucky then?
Honest question, did you watch the entire video? Only asking because we say at 16:09 that there are plenty of owners out there with completely faultless experiences. At the end also recommend buying the car if you find the right example. The extent of the criticism is that in terms of reliability and build quality, they're basically on par with most non-luxury brands.
How did you arrive at this being a completely biased review?
I did watch and it seems that (and you also admit to it) that you received most of your information second hand eg. via complaints on online forums etc. Did you do an investigation to determine how prevalent these problems are and what % of vehicle owners suffered from these same problems or faults? Because of the nature of such forums you will find more complaints than compliments as people tend to reach out to other forumites when they are having problems and the average Joe who might be very happy with his car will never visit. To take this information and then broadcast it as a general problem or symptom affecting the range is where the bias comes in, in my opinion. Maybe these problems are not as common as what your video suggest? You even mention that the vehicle you drove also had none of them. So, my biggest gripe with your review is that it creates a possibly underserved perception of a vehicle that has lots of problems when in reality it might not be so for most owners? This obviously is only my opinion, but currently having two of these vehicles in our family, with neither one of them ever having had any of the problems mentioned or even any other problems at all with almost 200 000 km covered between the two just goes to show that they might not be as unreliable or problematic as what comes across in your review? Nonetheless, I do enjoy your channel and will keep on watching, thank you!@@ReDriven
The information is not purely anecdotal. As much as we look at forums and owner's groups to gain an idea of the common issues, we do our best to connect the dots to find what can be considered 'common'. This is then referenced against mechanics and their experience to paint the most accurate picture of a particular model. Of course, we can never check every single model to see how close we are to the mark, but this is more of a limitation of the research, not a bias. A bias would infer we are going out of our way to ignore or misrepresent those facts for an agenda. We can only do our best in terms of research. This is why we make it clear in every video that most examples won't have any or only a few issues.
LOL so your anecdotal report of personal ownership trumps gathered reports from other owners? These guys do a fantastic job of sniffing out common issues. Doesn’t mean they all have it and there is some other stuff going on that’s difficult to quantify in a cross section of users.
Can you do one on the first gen Range Rover Evoque? I really want to get one for some reason but I’m sure you guys can talk me out of it. 😂
DO NOT DO IT...Sorry could i be any clearer. A quick google will back me up.
I left the video running to grab lunch when Jim started. I came back 20 minutes later and he was still going. Sounds like just about everything can go wrong with these ones.
There is one thing I don't like about European brands: DIY repair prevention. Just like the one in the video. If you try to fit a 2nd hand headlight from a wrecker, it will NOT work. You will find silly things like low beam not working and/or turn signals are reversed etc. You will HAVE TO programme/calibrate the 2nd hand headlight with an expensive diagnostic pad.
Try to replace the battery yourself? Sorry you will have to programme it as well. Try to replace the air struct? Oh sorry you will need 2~3 exlcusive "special tools" and yes they are expensive.
How do you program a battery?
@@SavedbyHim “You need to tell the ECU the status of the battery” they said
Yeah that shit things i don't like neither, they are literally forcing u to go to their brand workshop which is so expensive, and u can't repair those car normally on home like any 90-2010 car which u can change battery, airbags, sensors, headlights, without having to code everything, that's why i am indecisive about buying a new car, because the only thing that i like about new cars is they have a screen with navigation, that u can put in older cars normally...
@@Dexspic The NEW European car design philosophy: over engineering mechanical parts with weak points in hard to reach places so once it fail it will incur a lot of labour; over eingineering electronic parts so that 2nd hand part swap is impossible. In other words, planned obsolescence.
Just because this one video I cancelled my purchase for a Maybach. I think I will keep my 10 year old Suzuki.
Every internet car enthusiast in a nutshell.
Great review Redriven! Will you do a review of the GLB series? Keen to see this one. Some are coming up on the used market.
i have the v6 43 2020 model please do a vid on the AMG models please
My mum had a horrendous experience with the 2015 GLC250d. Bought brand new for 90k, the shitbox wouldnt start 1 year in, dealer couldnt figure out whats wrong with it and my mum missed a fuckton of work because of it. Brake pads needing replacement every year, each replacement costing 1k for parts and labour. Aftersales support is worse than a non luxury brand- always running out of hire cars (wonder why, modern mercs are shitboxes that always end up in the shop), and incompetent techs who dont know what theyre doing. She sold the junker 2 years in and got a Lexus RX450h and couldnt be happier. Got it to 160k kms and absolutely nothing wrong with it before trading it in for a new NX250h. Servicing, although pricey as expected of a luxury brand, has been such a pleasure for my parents- they deliver a hire car to your house, pick up your car and take it back to you without you having to do anything. As Lexus cars share the same chassis and therefore parts with the toyota fleet (RX=Kluger, UX=CHR, NX=Rav4 etc), parts and consumables are as cheap as a toyota.
Get a lexus folks if you want a luxury car, if not just stick to the good old Japanese built cars. Im keeping my Toyobaru 86 till its worth its scrap metal.
If you must get a Mercedes-Benz in this size, go for the GLK. Especially the 3.5 petrol V6. You'll still have issues, but less than the GLC as the GLK is based on the W204 C Class, which is the last reliable C Class, IMO.
No Glk in Australia
@@rcast3763 oops...I thought the GLK was a global car.
@@damilolaakanni not in RHD that's why
@rcast3763 did you get the W204 Estate/Wagon in your country? Because that's a great alternative as well.
@damilolaakanni yes Australia did get them. Is OM651 also reliable?
You menttion is this video how competitive Kia Sportage is in comparison , last year my step daughter ordered a new Sportage and then realised the payload was around 400kg, she then added up what she and her husband and two teenage kids weighed and that came to 390kg, (I bet there are a lot of people out there with this weighty problem) so a tank full of fuel would put them over weight, even before they put all their crap in it (she has since changed her order to a Sorento), I see the Merc has a payload of 660kg, so it could cope with four heavy people and their stuff where the Sportage won't.
Can some one tell me how about 350 gle ? 2019 to 2022