What KILLED Drytron? | Yu-Gi-Oh TCG
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Sometimes in Yu-Gi-Oh, decks get too strong and get murdered prematurely by a banlist.
Other times they get power crept out of the meta by newer stronger releases, and we aim to explore that!
Nobody plays Drytron about why is this the case and what would it need to come back!
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"The worst summoning mechanic"
Gemini: Excuse me! I'm good at one thing and it's being the worst, I won't let you take that title away from me!
I mean... you're right, but damn.
It had a stint of play in plants. Wasn't bad, due to gigachad and supervise.
Gigaplant I was just saying that as a joke you know or don't
Flip summoning?
@@Ragnarok540 From the early sets to packman, shaddol, guru control, and some spright brews playing crawlers, flips have seen plenty of representation in the game's history. Gemini has HERO Beat, a single deck. Which was essentially only relevant for a few formats.
@TwistedBOLT You forgot about gigachad. It was technically played in plant control, with supervise.
A fun fact about the Drytrons is that they are actually named after stars found in the Draco constellation. The baby Drytrons Thuban (or Alpha Draconis), Rastaban (or Beta Draconis), Eltanin (Or Gamma Draconis), Aldhibah (or Zeta Draconis) and Altais (or Delta Draconis) are the stars while the bosses (Quadrantids and Draconids) are actually meteor showers. Pretty cool stuff
Drytron isn't dead, it still works, it got a couple tops in recent YCS. In the Amorphactor variant Alpha, Zeta, and any discard is a turn skip. Drytron is WAY worse than it was put it is still going strong.
turn skip? it doesn't get less interactive than that. If you like playing solitaire I guess that is the deck for you.
@@Ragnarok540yeah but that’s not “Drytron doesn’t work” turn skipping wins you the game. It’s insanely unhealthy though I agree.
@@Ragnarok540 Its degenerate but highly effective, thats the point.
@@reservationatdorsias3215 most people don't run that variant bc it loses to 1 hand trap lol
@@foomf123 Amorphactor was the most frequent before the consensus was made on Chaos max. Drytron doesnt lose to a single handtrap by default, unless you dont even run Draconids, than its all on you.
I remember when Drytron first came out, I saw people talking about how Drytron was "a very fair combo deck" and that "if the best deck in the meta was Drytron, the meta was healthy".
Granted, we may or may not have been dealing with full negate boards back then, so Drytron looked fair compared to those.
Every top tier deck is called "the most fair tier1 deck in history" by people who play it.
@@benito1620 People mostly agree that drytron is not a fair deck. There were other tier 1 decks that were actually pretty fair like Tri-Brigade and Swordsoul.
Drytron is not dead
Agreed
It's dead from the meta but not from playability or a rogue option just like tri-brigade.
Cope harder.
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Dead means unplayable, prank kids is virtually unplayable. Drytron is not their zero but I usually wins a regional or so at the beginning of new formats so it’s not dead
They limited Benten before LIOV, not banned
You could honestly make this video about a lot of current decks. It all boils down to the extremely toxic #1 deck atm being Kashtira which banishes all of your fun
Which hopefully now will be fixed somewhat!
- Adam
I really really like Drytron from a card design perspective. They look really cool and have really cool effects, also the ritual spell is dope! But I find it sad that 90% of the time you can only play Drytron as this degenerate deck, either with Ultimateness or with the current turn skip variant. I wish there were more viable variants that could be played. Drytron Megalith was really cool for a while, but it just doesn't do as much but is still one of the more interactive variants (with exactly one interaction lol).
Can older decks be on the candidate list for this series? If so, would like to see Blackwings, Spellbook, or Sky Striker
Damn, sky striker is not a contender anymore I guess lol
@yourdanasty1 honestly, with the recent ban list, sky striker could come back, since it seems engage might be coming back to meta.I think they are suppose to get support soon, but I haven't been keeping up with the pack list of this year. I remember another youtuber talking about support coming for sky striker
Duck Frytron.
Now Drytron can lock you from effect monster, even Dark ruler can't save you x) Only Bystial or shifter or droll save you
Drytron is far from dead, hell it topped a nationals this month. If Arise-heart specifically were not in the format it would would straight up be a meta deck right now
Drytron is one of my favorite archetypes of all time...the problem is that the decks that it enabled were absolutely miserable to play against. I think the concept and aesthetic are so interesting, the design is really unique and efficient, and now, minus EVA and Orange Light, I think that there is a lot of really interesting deckbuilding space that's being ignored in favor of weird turn skips.
i think another really good one for this would be sky striker, even with the support it got and will get the deck is just dead now and not even engage to 3 can bring it back sadly
As long as you ban Hornet Drones, you can bring back every other Striker card to 3 and the deck would still do nothing
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I've lost to Sky Striker every time I've played it. I think it's still decent under the right hands.
Mystic mine ban killed the deck. Straight up.
I agree that the deck is pretty dead. The new support might breathe some life into it, but tier 3 might be a healthy place for it.
As an engine, it's pretty decent, though. Splash drones and engage and anchor in any deck that wants to use them and you have a free token, a pot of greed, and a creature negate, so long as you don't *need* your main monster zones immediately.
Eva makes it too cracked, as a person that climbed master duel through drytron abuse. Would personally like to see altergeists, I saw them a bit during the gouki meta but only got into them way after.
at the start of master duel drytron was just busted with everything at 3 including benten and eva
eventually they started hitting benten to 2 at first then to 1 while the meta kept evolving
since master duel is best of one drytron is even better as siding is not a thing and your opponent has no clue which deck youre playing until you drop a drytron or herald
when they limited benten the deck was still quite good and dze to the 3 evas people feared the deck would still be too dominant but it ended up totally fine it was still decently playable but not consistent enough to be oppressive (partially due to the new card releases)
now drytron is pretty much not playable due to ishizu shufflers existing and everyone adding tear counters
personally i really enjoyed playing drytron not only for the herald combos but also for several other combos you can pull off just because of the advantage and board presence drytron is generating
Drytron is essentially at full power, what the tcg got at least since benten was limited at the time diviner came out. Except the orange light limit which admittedly hurts. But what master duel got when it released was just degenerate.
TCG drytron is crazy right now, Eva could come back to 3 and still no one would play herald turbo
While this video is well made. An issue is that it does not really consider how a deck may evolve and adopt over time to deal with its weaknesses. As well as what other people are playing.
the issue with drytron is that fundamentally it is a 2 card deck, it cant really play without 2 live names in hand. the board it creates is very powerful, but due to that fact its fair in that way when you compare it to other decks (like branded) that set up a much less degenerate board, yes, but do it with 1 card.
i don't hate drytron until they use all the herald thing then is a bit annoying... that why i always have board breaker in the main deck.
also I play OCG...we have an insect thy name shall not be spoken. thou guy have to choose to commit or not (and 70% of the times when the bug is drop they will challenge in game 1)
Funnily enough, Herald turbo is the least degenerate variant.
Unban eva so i can vanitys ruler + 5 negates with ultimateness
Just imagine 😂😂
And then they said: “surely this is a good format to have introduce YGO to a wider audience”
so me ending on pendulumgraph and unicore with 4300 attack is degenerate for a drytron deck?
Sorry to burst your bubble but this deck is FAR from dead. As someone going into his 3rd year of playing this deck non stop I’d say it’s significantly weaker compared to its release time BUT it can still play through multiple HT‘s and sometimes including droll
Drytron is better than majority of decks in the meta lol. It’s just the only usable 2card combo deck in the game and all the lazy one card combo players don’t have the Brain power to comprehend how to use a deck that can do everything 20 different ways. Drytron has the most utility than any other deck in the game, and has full access to every monster in the main or extra at all times. Ever since I started actually playing drytron a bout a year ago I’ve realized literally nobody genuinely understands this deck lol.
More of an MTG player so I'm not too familiar with Drytron, but every point that Adam cringes at I'm like yo that sounds cool lol.
The deck is neat. The problem back then was because people abused the herald rituals. Eva made it worse
Doesn't have space for handtraps or board breakers, is a two or three card combo when a lot of other decks only need one card to do their thing. If it goes first and goes uninterrupted it wins 90% of the time, but thats not realistic in a competitive environment. Also is very boring, negating everything the opponent does or skipping the turn is just not interactive at all.
It absolutely has space for handtraps lol. The reason people don’t play handtraps in drytron is because you can search handtraps whenever you want in your combos. Orange light, purple light, green light, Lancea. You can literally search a handtrap for any type of 1st turn interruption you may come across . So people also play board breakers cause why not? Board breakers and searchable handtraps for monsters, spells, and traps? Why tf would you play handtraps that do very specific things when you can just search handtraps that directly negate and destroy any spell, trap, or monsters AND NEGATE YOUR OPPONENTS HANDTRAPS 😂😂😂😂do your research.
snake eye is 10 times more boring to play against than drytron they take the same time to build their board and on top of that they are still comboing on your turn. and if its about the drytron player, i think drytron is a deck that has many pathways and combo options which is pretty fun, unlike the standard one card combo meta decks
Drytron's not dead. It just needs to shed the Herald nonsense via locking Fairies out (Nu2 is a step in the right direction), give us a few more Meteonis monsters with strong effects, and it'll be far better off.
The problem with it is its lack of identity thanks to Herald painting it and holding it back.
It needs to stand on its own completely, with its own identity.
Sky striker would be pretty cool to see next
I gotta say that one of the guy from my locals still play the deck and that kurikara is looking kinda smexy, unless they're playing that combo with magician of black chaos max
The shear amount of Graveyard hate is what makes it unplayable.
what do you mean mate? i'm still here :D
Next video should be what killed tearlaments. Amazing videos guys
Ocg: should we tell him
I mean, the banlist and bystials killed tearkaments
The banlist destroyed it, simple as that
What killed Tearlaments and Dragon Rulers can be the same video, called "What decks got solo'd by the ban list?"
I have good news
It's S Tier in the OCG with the new synchron support lmao
Well droll get more mass played its more than enough to stop drytron
I really like Drytron as an archetype. It's a shame that their competitively viable payoffs are incredibly degenerate.
just like labyrinth where generic traps are simply labyrinth support
all rituals are just drytron support
TRI-BRIGADE OR PHANTOM KNIGHT WOULD BE INTRESTING
they did tri brigade in the last one of these if im not mistaken
Can you do phantom knights next please.
3:29-3:31
zane would be so proud
"I activate power wall" - I bet you have a secret cyberdark deck? welcome bro! haha😂
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For some decks for you to talk about I'd say any deck in TOSS that isn't named Sky Striker (upcoming support and new un-hits), Virtual World, Infernoble, Fabled, etc.
Got you covered on the VW:
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- Adam
chemicritter would like to have a chat with you about the worst summoning mechanic.
yoooo i played against the co host at the bulgarian nationals XD
Drytron getting new support coming up
i remember not liking the banlist that 1st touched drytron for the same reason i don't like recent one where we got new decks/strategies instantly getting hit on the banlist forcing the game to go revert back to the previous format before those decks were introduced. in that banlist it was ben10 getting hit to 1 and dawn knight being banned, with vfd also being banned deservedly. With this one us having shs and purrely getting hit.
Drytron is like that guy who geys bullied because he was friends with a criminal, Heralds.
I took it with me to the grave
One day you'll both be resurrected.
- Adam
Drytron just won a feature match against Branded at UK Nationals, I wouldn't count the deck out *{::>_
Before bystial release it, it one of the powerful deck with a lot of negate. Now regardless in MD, OCG and TCG, this card easily can be negated by bystial. However in OCG and MD have hope at least their limited to 1 copy some bystial card unlike TCG that bystial in full power.
union carrier equip b-buster drake on herald said gg vs dark ruler and droplet
Laughs in top 8. But yeah as a dryton main, we're fine. Our issue stems from how shitty the ritual mechanic in general is. But like you saw when we got top 8 in recent tourneys, If you give us some good rituals then we will be just as powerful as anything else.
If I personally could ask for anything, it'd be another name that actually does something. Hell, Imagine if we had our own Martha. A link 2 extender in the same vein as mu beta that extends in some different way I cant think of rn.
Ritual and Synchro are pretty bad summoning mechanics that have actually been insanely broken by specific powercrept cards, like Benten and Junk Speeder
It would be cool, if you talked about decks that could have been good, if only they came out sooner.
Drytron and Virtual World made me quit Master Duel
Ah friend of mine recently got into yu gi oh, bought one display of genesis impact, drew every drytron card enough times and is now terryfing me with this deck because i mostly play jank for fun
Drytron is NOT dead and is still very strong with the right deck format. I dont play it with Ultimateness with all the fairies. The only issue now i see is all the bystials being meta now.
i played Drytrons in Master Duel for... 1 year and a half at this point....
With Ishizu cards, there's just bad time to be a Drytron player. Tear isn't something that would break drytron (consider their big chungus ritual monster)
Oh and i do not play Perfection or Ultimateness.
My deck only has 3 negates, and all of them are in the extra deck (Baronne, Herald of Arc Light and Underworld Goddess)
If Tear Ishizu doesnt get a banlist before bystials come in... i think its about time for me to stop playing Master Duel.
Drytron smoothbrains in the comments huffing the copium hard.
I do rather duel against branded than having to wait 20 minutes of drytron combo
@@r3zaful why hate Branded tho? Are you a Master Duel player?
Drytron better than majority of decks. It’s a lot of smoothbrains like you that don’t know how to play it and that’s why y’all still complain about it
I’d love to see you try to play the deck. Probably give up after 2 rounds.
@@xSkwintz I have too much self respect. Unlike you 😏
Nothing, it's still playable
How about watching the video
Covers deck that fell out the meta.
This deck is definitely not the same since Eva was banned and Orange Light was put to 1. It's completely different from just Ultimateness turbo, especially after Kaiju-esque cards and Bystials started being popular
@@issacsantana6419 yeah is better now lol.
did a deck ever have to have been alive for it to be dead or can i ask for some gravekeeper love? ^^
Quick response: Bystials
Drytron player sad noises because orange light is limited.
Yeah, I'm not even sure how most drytron players think Lancea works against bystials. You can only activate lancea on you opponent's turn and they will just bystial during your combo. Therefore you have to play around the gym and hope you have enough tributes in hand
@@WShoup9818 now its at 3 and im back again summoning herald with 4 negates 💪
@@Brik0610 the current list was truly a drytron win sadly it's a format with a lot of drytron hate in it due to tear, unchained, purrely and floo. It's a great sleeper pick right now.
@@WShoup9818 thats true, but when ppl are unprepared my win is so easy
This deck doesn't need support...LMAO oh how the turns have tabled 😂
This video definitely is made
Drytron will never doe
They're a lot like Tears, frustrating to play against, but hot damn the art is divine.
I wouldn't say Ritual is the worst, just the least supported (though depending on who you ask, that's the same thing). Fusion is inherently more difficult due to the need to not only go negative, but to do so in such a specific way. However, the @$$ load of support fusion gets keeps it consistently coming back to tier 1. As both Drytron and Nekroz have shown, the mechanic is perfectly capable of sitting comfortably as the best deck of the format. Any mechanic that can play around with sending lots of stuff to the graveyard has scary potential.
Yeah the whole ritual argument definitely falls when it comes to drytron. Benten instantly invalidates that point and especially cards like draconids which is better than majority of boss monsters decks have
I have an interesting one: What killed Lightsworns? For around 10 years they were in the Meta in some kind of pile deck or Pure and then they vanished
speed killed them. normal summon one, wait for mills at the end phase thats just way way too slow. and there isnt much to speed that deck up right now
I mean they saw some play in early pote format
@@51msY Yeah they saw play in early Tear Versions and Runicksworn. But the Curious Ban and the Chaos Ruler Ban annihilated them
Grass getting banned
DRYTRON BEST DECK LETS GOOOOO!
Synchron/ Stardust
Drytron best deck 🥱🥱🥱
Do mermails
Drytron is awful for the game! Oh yeah cause playing with 1 zone left against Kash is really healthy back and forth. This game always has cancer decks, don’t like it, go ply Edison.
No more 5-Zone Lock though 🫸🫷
- Adam
This is a terrible awful take. I’ve been playing Drytron for the past 2 months and I am consistently getting either first or second with the deck. I go undefeated every single tournament until the final round. To say the deck is dead, is complete ignorance of the game. Fat thumbs down. Channel blocked.
Drytron main throwing a tantrum lmao. Bye, Felicia 👋
Okay....
So are these wins at ycs or regional levels or are you just winning locals?