i know its your guyses marketing, but please dont put the price tag next to the card before you reveal staple or stinker, it kinda spoilers you if you are trying to guess
Spice's short banter about Winged Beast as a type got me thinking, there's an alternate universe where Spice8Rack is a Yugituber and they have a 3-hour long video essay about the tri-types and the perceived racism between them. They're all basically the same, but segregated into different types by the power of ink bestowed upon each piece of cardboard
Conversely, this is the same universe where Rata has "Kindred Compendium" and a short skit featuring the Gary at the ends And it's a number 14 Mordred bean
21:20 These animations are surely backwards, Mulcharmy is "satan" and "seen behind eyelids by people that understand the game" Chimera is "face card of the intro deck" and "sells people on getting into the game"
Love this, Spice8Rack is always entertaining, they definitely deserve 5/6 because the way the card templating is in MTG, activated effects on creatures are instant speed unless specified otherwise while in yugioh it is the opposite, sorcery speed unless specified otherwise
@@lydiasteinebendiksen4269 I agree, and I also prefer MtG. It is more intuitive that you creatures and spells only work during your own turn unless they specify they work during your opponent's turn. I just wished both had better way of indicating speed than just writing "(quick effect)" or "can only be used as a sorcery". Come on, use some symbols, people. You see that a lot of modern card games cut down a lot of actions outside your own turn because it's inherently confusing.
@@lydiasteinebendiksen4269 No, I'd say both are equally learned. It's not like anyone's born understanding tcg timing, so either is a valid assumption
@@OatmealTheCrazyThe way I think about it, MtG's interaction is more free-form (the stack is just another zone, and you can keep adding/removing things to/from it, or modify things in it, while it does its thing) whereas YuGiOh is more rigidly structured (chains are built, then resolved. Priority always passes between players between steps rather than letting each player add multiple effects at a time). MtG's activated effects are equally free-form, being able to be placed on the stack at any time unless they say otherwise, and YuGiOh's activated effects are equally rigidly structured, requiring you to do things one at a time on your turn unless they say otherwise. Each is more intuitive than the other in the context of its own game. Each game picked the default that makes sense for it. (edit - typo, and made my wording consistent where I refer to past sentences)
He nailed fuwalos perfectly even stating that the reason these restrictions were placed on it was because there was a broken card before it so they had to try to curve the power level with that card. Absolute mad lad.
Worth noting that while it's obviously correct that Guardian Chimera is good because it does a bunch of good things, one of the SPECIFIC good things that it does is not just that it destroys, but because it's non-targeted destruction, so it avoids targeting protection, which is normally a pretty decently strong type of protection, hence why it's so good that it has it. Like, Spice mentioned it essentially has Hexproof, it would be worth mentioning that its own destruction effect would ignore the Hexproof of other monsters because the specific wording doesn't target.
One thing that also makes Guardian Chimera good in decks that it can be played in, is that many monsters in fusion based decks have effects that trigger upon being used as material. So upon summoning Chimera it's not just that you get to draw/pop, you can trigger up to 3 other effects that also plus you. Branded Despia can legit add like 4-5 cards to hand depending on the material used and from where just from all the trigger effects.
In fairness it's less broken Maxx C. It's still Maxx C, but outside of its own archetype that thing seems very nice while also having a level of counterplay outside of "stop summoning". Plus it's only from deck and extra deck, so since graveyard isn't included you're probably drawing a decent bit less than Maxx C.
@theendersmirk5851 I know, but that's the inspiration either way. The whole Mulcharmy archetype is basically Maxx "C" retrains. Still, if the question is whether or not the card is a staple, not broken, the answer is obvious.
I just wanna see what happens if/when Master Duel gets Fuwalos. Like, maxx c is at 3; will they let you run what is effectively 6 maxx c, or will they _finally_ squash the bug? Imagine hitting someone with both maxx c and fuwalos at the same time; sure, you have to put a bunch of cards back at the end of the turn, but you'd effectively be allowed to draw your entire deck in one turn, have nonstop interruption from every card you possibly have, get to keep a fair amount of cards in your hand (you have to randomly return, so you can't build your ideal hand, but who cares at that point), and then reset your deck so that you don't actually deck out (which is normally the only drawback to maxx c theoretically drawing every single card in your deck). It'd be utter madness and would surely be miserable to play, but I kinda wanna see the chaos at least once.
@@jamesruth100the OCG has hit Maxx C to semi-limited (likely as a warning shot, they like doing that in the OCG) since the 3 mulcharmies released, so there's a good chance it gets banned, yes.
Please make a video with Spice8Rack where you just talk about the flavor of some archetypes. For example Burning Abyss and its depictions of Dantes Inferno or Kozmo as a mix between Star wars and wizard of oz or maybe wind-up and how its game mechanics of flipping cards down or removing and re-summoning them is like winding up a toy.
I would give my soul to Satan to see a series from @Spice8Rack (or any of the MTG content creators) were they try to learn Yu-Gi-Oh!, but like learn learn Yu-Gi-Oh, not just learn how the basic rules work, it would be awesome!
Was gonna comment the same, i get why they do it as their channel is sponsored but it makes it really hard to try and guess along when the price tells you the most likely answer.
For anyone that disagrees with guardian chimera being a staple, I would argue that it's pretty much a staple in every fusion deck that can make it, sort of like access code for it's non targeting removal and ability to make use of useless cards in hand or field. Just because it's not played in yubel, tenpai or fiendsmith snake eyes doesn't mean it's not a staple. It has not been powercrept by another card and is played in branded, chimera and memento lists to this day.
Of course, the same argument can be made with Snake Eye Ash that it is a staple in any decks that wants to run that engine. You're not gonna run it without the rest of the package
I'm glad you clarified Rodenut because this is a thing that always trips people up in these MTG cross Yugioh videos. In Magic creature abilities can all be activated at instant speed unless the card tells you otherwise. And in Yugioh it's the exact opposite 😅
I think Yugioh is more intuitive in this aspect, because the first time I saw the clause in Magic "activate only at sorcery speed" it pretty much rocked my world. What do you mean all this time I could respond with abilities?
@@jamesaditya5254 iirc mtg is default instant speed unless specified while yugioh is sorcery speed unless specified (except for all types of traps and quickplay spell subtype)
@@YukiFubuki. yeah, that's about right. I think having an open game state (i.e. sorcery speed) just makes more sense being the default. Then again, it will surely differ based on which game you picked up first for just about everyone
@@jamesaditya5254 It's more intuitive to me too, but I did play yugioh first so that's probably why. When I started playing mtg I'd get caught all the time by on board creature abilities I just didn't realize my opponent could use at instant speed.
i thought it was pretty obvious given the on-card clarification of "as a fast effect" on the previous card. i know very little about modern ygo (i play a little bit of og starter deck or world championship 2004(?)) and i understood that. i actually ended up 6/6 :)
Hey! I started Yugioh like, a month ago, and this type of videos are helping me SO MUCH, cause not don’t I get to know which cards are strong but why they are strong, why these effects are good or bad, and it’s helping me recognize other strong cards You’re doing a gods work here hahahahah Yugioh it’s very complex, but as much as I consume content likes this, I understand even more and liking even more ! A big shout out from Brasil!!!
it's kind of hard to judge guardian chimera objectively because at face/advantage value it's a -4 for +2-3 cards and 1-2 removals, but the thing is a lot of modern fus-ing cards are quick play, so that you can make it on your opponents turn or during the middle of your set up if they try to interrupt and then it turns into an objective plus that also puts the equivalent of a hexproof 7/7 out. Thats before getting into how it can cause a fat layer of triggered effects that make it even harder to interact with
There's something amusing about both the recent Staple or Stinker videos was the fish saying "I can't ask you about the casting cost" & being told "you can actually!"
I'm a simple man; I see Spice8Rack (sometimes better known as that worrying sensation of crunching down on something in a food that should not be crunchy) and I click the video.
I think if you tell magic players that "Normal summon" is basically equatable to "your One land drop" for the turn. They will have a much better understanding.
Great video! I was 100% with Spice on calling the last card a Stinker, seemed like too many hoops despite the very exciting abilities! Just paused to read Spice's tattoo, very cool quote from the Communist Manifesto: "All That is Solid Melts Into Air". I enjoy the rest of this passage as well: "all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."
I think the trick is that it's actually not a lot of hoops _if you're playing a fusion deck._ So, if any fusion-focused deck at all is good, then this gets a nice comfy extra deck slot to come out when it lines up well or nothing else is lining up.
it's quite literally the same as the first card, it's a staple if your deck is planning on running that sort of strategy. A lonesome Snake Eye Ash with no target is garbage and so is a Chimera without means to summon it.
It's funny how in TCGs, the format shattering apocalypse cards are never the big intimidating boss monsters. Because those usually require you to be in a dominant position already to even summon them. Nah, it's those cutesy little bastards that never win the game themselves, but make the rest of your deck run with absurd efficiency.
With how Yugioh's powercreep has been targeting very specific card stats when designing new strategies/archetypes recently, I wouldn't be surprised if they were to someday print an archetype that makes your Lv1, EARTH, Beast monsters with 100ATK and DEF become Quick-Effects lmao!
Spice not talking about labor unions, socialism, or related topics in a video? I didn't know it was possible you could almost mistake him for a handsome charming fellow. On the serious though that was a good run by Spice.
to be fair most people just focus on its drawing and spot removal effect since if u draw/destroy equal to its materials used it sorta pays for itself already if you manage to summon it with greater poly if regular poly is in grave it now has both targeting and destruction protection along with piercing
@@YukiFubuki. yeah in the run up to bach when this thing was coming out, i realized this thing was really fucking good for that exact reason and you don't even really need poly in grave for it.
Taylor, I think you're getting a lot better at these. Good choices all around, a lot of thought put into them. Still, I do have some small criticisms. Adding that Ash is good because it's archetype happens to be meta right now isn't quite the correct line of thinking. Meta archetypes come and go, what should really matter is if the functionality of the card is iron clad to be a staple, and since lower level monsters always get better free searches and summons, Ash is a fantastic starter/extender because of it. It's also been noted by many pros that Fuwalos does not go in every deck, as it's not quite as all encompassing as Maxx C is to fit into any deck (In the OCG they call this "taking a business trip", so Fuwa sees a lotta trips, but it's not quite the traveling salesmen the roach was). Those are pretty minor though, and I can see you've been taking the past criticism to heart, and it definitely shows. All of these choices were great, the staples are keystone cards, and all the stinkers are cards that you'd have to bend a deck backwards to make good. Great guest too, he was very nice. Don't know much about him, but I do know he's into lore stuff, so I hope you also got him in for a video on explaining Yu-Gi-Oh lore or something like that.
@CardmarketYGO I recently watched a few videos from the MTG side of Cardmarket TH-cam, and there's a couple videos about "how the rules of the game changed how some cards work". On the second iteration they added some clue cards to give additional context, maybe how they combo off of each other or a straight comparison of 2 similar effects. I think it's worth giving it a chance, maybe out of 6 clues you could slip in 1 bait like have Maxx C as the clue for Mulcharmy in this case and only tell the guest that Maxx C is banned if they sniffed it first
It feels like for the second one there could have been a short discussion about time rules. A bit of incidental burn that happens along one of your combo lines can be the difference between winning or losing game 3.
TBH, Guardian Chimera is kinda like the middle ground. it was a staple in early MasterDuel, but now it's not THAT much of a problem. Just like with early branded with Mirrorjade.
Another thing to note is that there are some Fusion Spells that can be played at Instant Speed. This makes Guardian Chimera not just a value piece, but also an interruption used on the opponent to remove their combo pieces
Having the prices on screen from the start makes it hard to play along. Knowing that this card is $120+ before I can even read what it does makes it pretty easy to guess...
Old mind reminds me of the Gitaxian probe in MTG. You usually pay two lives for that, so the last one is basically "The Memoplasm", but for three creatures rather than two.
Ok, mad props to Spice for not immediately going: "wow, why is there so much text on these cards" etc. I think this is the first time I see a non-ygo player not complain about it.
In spice’s defense, I think staple is maybe pushing it for a card like guardian chimera that has relatively limited reach. Certainly decks that can fusion summon frequently at instant speed would play it, but I think it is fair to say that not even the majority of fusion decks play it.
It's a bit sad that you show the Cardmarket Avg price while Spice8Rack is still guessing, as it (up to a point) spoils whether the card is good or not if you're trying to play along at home
Its almost like they are a bidness that is focused on selling cards and that bideos are a side product. Now ifn they had little Spice1Rack paint over them with red paint?
I’ve watched some of your videos regarding the difficulty of creating alternative yu-gi-oh format, and I have an idea so here’re my two cents: Double Archetype format Before the game, each player chooses 2 archetype keywords. For the rest of the game, if someone plays a card that mentions one of their 2 selected keywords, treat it as if it applied to both. Eg: I chose "Unchained" and "Kuriboh" as my 2 words. I play Abomination's Prison. I can fetch either an Unchained or a Kuriboh monster. That would create a different way of playing the game that expands the posibilities instead of limiting them.
The only thing I can say for the future is to maybe include the card prices *later* as part of the reveal-for someone uneducated like me, it was definitely an indicator one way or another for stinker/staple.
nice vid :3 but i think it would be better to reveal the price only after revealing whether its good or bad, since the price might give it away beforehand (for people guessing at home)
I was listening to the Guardian Chimera as a Magic player and the card sounds like a Siege Rhino - not good enough *anymore* but a menace of a bygone era. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just what it felt like to me looking at it.
the card is actually pretty good if the deck can use it, the main issue would be that not many decks can actually use it since only fusion focus decks can and many newer fusion archetype's fusion spell is unable to summon it by virtue of only being tailored to summon fusion monsters within the archetype and rarely anything outside of it so it hasnt seen much use recently but if a deck 'could' use it then it definitely would guardian chimera is probably most well known to be used in branded/albaz decks because of 1 of their fusion spells called branded in red that is a quick play so it can be used on opponent's turn turning that destruction effect into a disruption when the opponent would least expect it branded in red's effect is to return to the hand from grave any despia monster or specifically a monster called [fallen of albaz] and you can then fusion summon any lvl 8 or higher monster using monsters from either your hand and/or field (it doesnt have to include monsters you grabbed back either), the fact that it returns a despia/albaz to hand from grave preemptively means 1 of the requirements for guardian chimera is always live with it since it necessitates at least 1 monster from both location
I feel like Snake Eyes Ash is impossible to evaluate in a vacuum because it's entirely dependent on what it's searching. Plenty of terrible archetypes have cards with Stratos effects but because the cards it's searching are bad, the card is also bad
Vagnawa is interesting, since realistically I have never seen it before now, and my only thought upon having seen it is "I don't think this card needs a once per turn, you synchro spam three of it out and it gets at max 5400 burn. Unless I'm forgetting a good synchro burn archetype that's garbage."
Don't let Spice learn about the Invoked archetype based on Alchemy and Aleister Crowley, or D/D/D being noble figures turned into demons in company positions with lesser demons as minions, i feel like he would have something to talk about them.
Check out Fuwalos getting some Main-Deck-action in this Top 8 Braunschweig WCQ List by Simon Hinrichs! bit.ly/3U9Jvn7
i know its your guyses marketing, but please dont put the price tag next to the card before you reveal staple or stinker, it kinda spoilers you if you are trying to guess
Spice's short banter about Winged Beast as a type got me thinking, there's an alternate universe where Spice8Rack is a Yugituber and they have a 3-hour long video essay about the tri-types and the perceived racism between them. They're all basically the same, but segregated into different types by the power of ink bestowed upon each piece of cardboard
Conversely, this is the same universe where Rata has "Kindred Compendium" and a short skit featuring the Gary at the ends
And it's a number 14 Mordred bean
"Madness, Memory, Runick & Stun"
@@yxrx9162 perfect
TheSpiceLogs?
@@nuclearaxe979 no no its 10ManaMTG (Gary) and Guu2Trickstar
I couldn't come up with a great alternative to the deck 8-rack for yugioh though
Spice: *looks at Fuwaross*
“That’s a b*stard. Begone Satan!”.
Never change Spice. 🤣
And he’s RIGHT
21:20 These animations are surely backwards, Mulcharmy is "satan" and "seen behind eyelids by people that understand the game" Chimera is "face card of the intro deck" and "sells people on getting into the game"
it really isn't. cute furballs that cause pokemon copyright issues are the devil.
Love this, Spice8Rack is always entertaining, they definitely deserve 5/6 because the way the card templating is in MTG, activated effects on creatures are instant speed unless specified otherwise while in yugioh it is the opposite, sorcery speed unless specified otherwise
Frankly, as a magic player, yugioh's way is far more intuitive.
@@lydiasteinebendiksen4269 I agree, and I also prefer MtG. It is more intuitive that you creatures and spells only work during your own turn unless they specify they work during your opponent's turn. I just wished both had better way of indicating speed than just writing "(quick effect)" or "can only be used as a sorcery". Come on, use some symbols, people.
You see that a lot of modern card games cut down a lot of actions outside your own turn because it's inherently confusing.
@@lydiasteinebendiksen4269 No, I'd say both are equally learned. It's not like anyone's born understanding tcg timing, so either is a valid assumption
@@OatmealTheCrazyThe way I think about it, MtG's interaction is more free-form (the stack is just another zone, and you can keep adding/removing things to/from it, or modify things in it, while it does its thing) whereas YuGiOh is more rigidly structured (chains are built, then resolved. Priority always passes between players between steps rather than letting each player add multiple effects at a time). MtG's activated effects are equally free-form, being able to be placed on the stack at any time unless they say otherwise, and YuGiOh's activated effects are equally rigidly structured, requiring you to do things one at a time on your turn unless they say otherwise. Each is more intuitive than the other in the context of its own game. Each game picked the default that makes sense for it.
(edit - typo, and made my wording consistent where I refer to past sentences)
"I'm guessing this is part of some delightful combo"
....
It's anything but delightful.
Right about combo.
Wrong about delightful.
in Yugioh land, everything is delightful unless you're at the receiving end of it
Spice is my favourite MTG youtuber, so this was an absolute treat. 😁😁😁
Spice was absolutely awesome to work with and it made for a super fun episode! Glad you enjoyed! 😄
-Taylor
He nailed fuwalos perfectly even stating that the reason these restrictions were placed on it was because there was a broken card before it so they had to try to curve the power level with that card. Absolute mad lad.
*they. They're non binary
Worth noting that while it's obviously correct that Guardian Chimera is good because it does a bunch of good things, one of the SPECIFIC good things that it does is not just that it destroys, but because it's non-targeted destruction, so it avoids targeting protection, which is normally a pretty decently strong type of protection, hence why it's so good that it has it. Like, Spice mentioned it essentially has Hexproof, it would be worth mentioning that its own destruction effect would ignore the Hexproof of other monsters because the specific wording doesn't target.
One thing that also makes Guardian Chimera good in decks that it can be played in, is that many monsters in fusion based decks have effects that trigger upon being used as material. So upon summoning Chimera it's not just that you get to draw/pop, you can trigger up to 3 other effects that also plus you. Branded Despia can legit add like 4-5 cards to hand depending on the material used and from where just from all the trigger effects.
also in actual chimera decks, chimera fusion brings him out on your opponent's turn to pop/draw and just plop down a big guy on your opponent's turn.
Yes, good, bring Spice into the YGO Fold. It mus be made to know the glory of Goblin Bikers 😈
Of course you're here. Don't scare them, Nova.
@@ThatOneWeirdFlex Me? SCARY!? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I read Mulcharmy's text, groaned to myself "It's Maxx "C" again!", then hit my elbow against my desk.
In fairness it's less broken Maxx C. It's still Maxx C, but outside of its own archetype that thing seems very nice while also having a level of counterplay outside of "stop summoning". Plus it's only from deck and extra deck, so since graveyard isn't included you're probably drawing a decent bit less than Maxx C.
@theendersmirk5851 I know, but that's the inspiration either way. The whole Mulcharmy archetype is basically Maxx "C" retrains. Still, if the question is whether or not the card is a staple, not broken, the answer is obvious.
I just wanna see what happens if/when Master Duel gets Fuwalos. Like, maxx c is at 3; will they let you run what is effectively 6 maxx c, or will they _finally_ squash the bug?
Imagine hitting someone with both maxx c and fuwalos at the same time; sure, you have to put a bunch of cards back at the end of the turn, but you'd effectively be allowed to draw your entire deck in one turn, have nonstop interruption from every card you possibly have, get to keep a fair amount of cards in your hand (you have to randomly return, so you can't build your ideal hand, but who cares at that point), and then reset your deck so that you don't actually deck out (which is normally the only drawback to maxx c theoretically drawing every single card in your deck).
It'd be utter madness and would surely be miserable to play, but I kinda wanna see the chaos at least once.
@@jamesruth100the OCG has hit Maxx C to semi-limited (likely as a warning shot, they like doing that in the OCG) since the 3 mulcharmies released, so there's a good chance it gets banned, yes.
@@effluxi9587 Well hot damn; I never thought I'd see the day.
Please make a video with Spice8Rack where you just talk about the flavor of some archetypes. For example Burning Abyss and its depictions of Dantes Inferno or Kozmo as a mix between Star wars and wizard of oz or maybe wind-up and how its game mechanics of flipping cards down or removing and re-summoning them is like winding up a toy.
Yes PLEASE. His commentary would be such a delight to tune in to.
@Cardmarket - Yu-Gi-Oh!
It's so cool that you brought on Yawgmoth itself! Amazing!
Love that every mtg summon uses it pronouns
I would give my soul to Satan to see a series from @Spice8Rack (or any of the MTG content creators) were they try to learn Yu-Gi-Oh!, but like learn learn Yu-Gi-Oh, not just learn how the basic rules work, it would be awesome!
I think spice would enjoy it a lot more than prof did with team aps, though I think it's more of a commitment thing rather than an attempt thing
CGB is doing a series with Cimooo that's something of a hybrid between that and this
Dear editors, putting the price of the card before the staple or stinker reveal kinda ruins the game for people who don't already know the game.
Some cards can be cheap while being a staple though, but I agree
Last card was less than an euro but yeah seeing a card costs 100 euro made it pretty obvious although the effect of it already made it obvious lol
Was gonna comment the same, i get why they do it as their channel is sponsored but it makes it really hard to try and guess along when the price tells you the most likely answer.
@@drunkcapybara7004 don't mean to be annoying but sponsored is probably not the word you're looking for haha. It's the website's channel
@@888ian2for what it's worth egyptian god slime was 50$ before rarity collection, same as baronne.
Sometimes being expensive doesn't mean you're good
It was so excited at the end and you pulled the rug right out from under it
5/6 ain’t bad Spice, and you were on point for almost all of the analysis
They completely understood Fuwaross after one look at the art, incredible
For anyone that disagrees with guardian chimera being a staple, I would argue that it's pretty much a staple in every fusion deck that can make it, sort of like access code for it's non targeting removal and ability to make use of useless cards in hand or field. Just because it's not played in yubel, tenpai or fiendsmith snake eyes doesn't mean it's not a staple. It has not been powercrept by another card and is played in branded, chimera and memento lists to this day.
Definitely. Guardian Chimera is the cream of the crop, and an immensely powerful card lol
Quick play fusion into chimera is the fusion equivalent of I:P into S:P at this point.
Of course, the same argument can be made with Snake Eye Ash that it is a staple in any decks that wants to run that engine. You're not gonna run it without the rest of the package
@jamesaditya5254 yeah... that's why it's a staple lmao
I'm glad you clarified Rodenut because this is a thing that always trips people up in these MTG cross Yugioh videos. In Magic creature abilities can all be activated at instant speed unless the card tells you otherwise. And in Yugioh it's the exact opposite 😅
I think Yugioh is more intuitive in this aspect, because the first time I saw the clause in Magic "activate only at sorcery speed" it pretty much rocked my world. What do you mean all this time I could respond with abilities?
@@jamesaditya5254 iirc mtg is default instant speed unless specified while yugioh is sorcery speed unless specified (except for all types of traps and quickplay spell subtype)
@@YukiFubuki. yeah, that's about right. I think having an open game state (i.e. sorcery speed) just makes more sense being the default. Then again, it will surely differ based on which game you picked up first for just about everyone
@@jamesaditya5254 It's more intuitive to me too, but I did play yugioh first so that's probably why. When I started playing mtg I'd get caught all the time by on board creature abilities I just didn't realize my opponent could use at instant speed.
i thought it was pretty obvious given the on-card clarification of "as a fast effect" on the previous card. i know very little about modern ygo (i play a little bit of og starter deck or world championship 2004(?)) and i understood that. i actually ended up 6/6 :)
Hey! I started Yugioh like, a month ago, and this type of videos are helping me SO MUCH, cause not don’t I get to know which cards are strong but why they are strong, why these effects are good or bad, and it’s helping me recognize other strong cards
You’re doing a gods work here hahahahah Yugioh it’s very complex, but as much as I consume content likes this, I understand even more and liking even more ! A big shout out from Brasil!!!
it's kind of hard to judge guardian chimera objectively because at face/advantage value it's a -4 for +2-3 cards and 1-2 removals, but the thing is a lot of modern fus-ing cards are quick play, so that you can make it on your opponents turn or during the middle of your set up if they try to interrupt and then it turns into an objective plus that also puts the equivalent of a hexproof 7/7 out. Thats before getting into how it can cause a fat layer of triggered effects that make it even harder to interact with
There's something amusing about both the recent Staple or Stinker videos was the fish saying "I can't ask you about the casting cost" & being told "you can actually!"
Showing Snake-Eye Ash without context from Poplar and Flamberge was EVIL. Glad they still got it right
"you can't just summon the card you get to the hand if you already normal summon ash, you need other way." Is so much of a misleading statement lol.
starting one of these videos with snake-eye ash is like showing a small victorian child the 2600 calorie oreo milkshake from baskin robbins
I mean, Ash doesn't look THAT insane without the context of Poplar and Flamberge
@@OyVeey true, but its still an insanely strong card
I'm a simple man; I see Spice8Rack (sometimes better known as that worrying sensation of crunching down on something in a food that should not be crunchy) and I click the video.
THIS CHANNEL JUST GOT SPICY!!!
I think if you tell magic players that "Normal summon" is basically equatable to "your One land drop" for the turn.
They will have a much better understanding.
I ADORE Spice. They are one of the reasons I find a lot of hope and comfort in the MTG community.
Great video! I was 100% with Spice on calling the last card a Stinker, seemed like too many hoops despite the very exciting abilities!
Just paused to read Spice's tattoo, very cool quote from the Communist Manifesto: "All That is Solid Melts Into Air". I enjoy the rest of this passage as well: "all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."
I think the trick is that it's actually not a lot of hoops _if you're playing a fusion deck._
So, if any fusion-focused deck at all is good, then this gets a nice comfy extra deck slot to come out when it lines up well or nothing else is lining up.
it's quite literally the same as the first card, it's a staple if your deck is planning on running that sort of strategy. A lonesome Snake Eye Ash with no target is garbage and so is a Chimera without means to summon it.
Looks like Spice's card evaluation was really solid, but it melted into air at the end.
Well I need more of this immediately.
I wanna watch spice guess yugioh cards all day
It's funny how in TCGs, the format shattering apocalypse cards are never the big intimidating boss monsters. Because those usually require you to be in a dominant position already to even summon them.
Nah, it's those cutesy little bastards that never win the game themselves, but make the rest of your deck run with absurd efficiency.
With how Yugioh's powercreep has been targeting very specific card stats when designing new strategies/archetypes recently, I wouldn't be surprised if they were to someday print an archetype that makes your Lv1, EARTH, Beast monsters with 100ATK and DEF become Quick-Effects lmao!
I love spice so much, im so glad to get more content of it anywhere I can, thank you Cardmarket 🥰
I dont play Yu-Gi-Oh, I'm here for the Spice.
Spice not talking about labor unions, socialism, or related topics in a video? I didn't know it was possible you could almost mistake him for a handsome charming fellow. On the serious though that was a good run by Spice.
I've been playing guardian chimera for last 3 months
and only now have I learned that it has protection if poly is in the graveyard...
to be fair most people just focus on its drawing and spot removal effect since if u draw/destroy equal to its materials used it sorta pays for itself already
if you manage to summon it with greater poly if regular poly is in grave it now has both targeting and destruction protection along with piercing
@@YukiFubuki. yeah in the run up to bach when this thing was coming out, i realized this thing was really fucking good for that exact reason and you don't even really need poly in grave for it.
LETS GOOOOOO !! Rodenut mentioned. My favorite Melffy card, even if it’s bad as hell.
As someone who loved playing Chimera and Branded from Master Duel, that Guardian Chimera fumble hurt a little. Still, 6(5.5)/7 is a nice score
Never been on this channel before, Im here for the SPICE BAY-BEE!
I'd love to see Spice return for other videos. So nice of them to try rating cards of an unknown game like Yu-Gi-Oh!
I would die from joy if Spice started getting into Yugioh 😭
Taylor, I think you're getting a lot better at these. Good choices all around, a lot of thought put into them.
Still, I do have some small criticisms. Adding that Ash is good because it's archetype happens to be meta right now isn't quite the correct line of thinking. Meta archetypes come and go, what should really matter is if the functionality of the card is iron clad to be a staple, and since lower level monsters always get better free searches and summons, Ash is a fantastic starter/extender because of it. It's also been noted by many pros that Fuwalos does not go in every deck, as it's not quite as all encompassing as Maxx C is to fit into any deck (In the OCG they call this "taking a business trip", so Fuwa sees a lotta trips, but it's not quite the traveling salesmen the roach was).
Those are pretty minor though, and I can see you've been taking the past criticism to heart, and it definitely shows. All of these choices were great, the staples are keystone cards, and all the stinkers are cards that you'd have to bend a deck backwards to make good.
Great guest too, he was very nice. Don't know much about him, but I do know he's into lore stuff, so I hope you also got him in for a video on explaining Yu-Gi-Oh lore or something like that.
@CardmarketYGO I recently watched a few videos from the MTG side of Cardmarket TH-cam, and there's a couple videos about "how the rules of the game changed how some cards work". On the second iteration they added some clue cards to give additional context, maybe how they combo off of each other or a straight comparison of 2 similar effects.
I think it's worth giving it a chance, maybe out of 6 clues you could slip in 1 bait like have Maxx C as the clue for Mulcharmy in this case and only tell the guest that Maxx C is banned if they sniffed it first
Wouldve been funny if he told Spice Fuwalos is The One Ring of Yugioh
It feels like for the second one there could have been a short discussion about time rules. A bit of incidental burn that happens along one of your combo lines can be the difference between winning or losing game 3.
TBH, Guardian Chimera is kinda like the middle ground. it was a staple in early MasterDuel, but now it's not THAT much of a problem. Just like with early branded with Mirrorjade.
It's still used in Chimera Illusion decks and it's quite standard as another body or extender.
staple doesnt equal a problem and fiendsmith chimera is one of the best decks in the format
Spice8rack lights up the screen
Another thing to note is that there are some Fusion Spells that can be played at Instant Speed. This makes Guardian Chimera not just a value piece, but also an interruption used on the opponent to remove their combo pieces
case in point, chimera fusion makes guardian chimera literally required in chimera decks.
Just started, I hope they ask which archetype is the closest to anarcho-communists! ❤
It's obviously the People Running About series
Respect. I played this game for 15 years and never heared of a single one of the stinker cards. They really dug deep in the bulk pile there.
I always love to see Spice. Seeing him here makes me hopefull to see more of him on the Magic Channel as well.
Having the prices on screen from the start makes it hard to play along. Knowing that this card is $120+ before I can even read what it does makes it pretty easy to guess...
I feel like every one of these videos should include Linear Equation Cannon, just to fuck with people.
So, Spice8Rack thinks he mostly understands Yugioh already- time to introduce him to "missing the timing"
It would already know, missing timing is in mtg just as much
Old mind reminds me of the Gitaxian probe in MTG. You usually pay two lives for that, so the last one is basically "The Memoplasm", but for three creatures rather than two.
Ok, mad props to Spice for not immediately going: "wow, why is there so much text on these cards" etc. I think this is the first time I see a non-ygo player not complain about it.
Vagnawa is the card that tenpai would use for time, if tenpai didn't finish every match with 35 mins left on the clock.
Delightful to see Spice describing the cards and nice explanation of the cards in context.
In spice’s defense, I think staple is maybe pushing it for a card like guardian chimera that has relatively limited reach. Certainly decks that can fusion summon frequently at instant speed would play it, but I think it is fair to say that not even the majority of fusion decks play it.
It's a bit sad that you show the Cardmarket Avg price while Spice8Rack is still guessing, as it (up to a point) spoils whether the card is good or not if you're trying to play along at home
Its almost like they are a bidness that is focused on selling cards and that bideos are a side product. Now ifn they had little Spice1Rack paint over them with red paint?
@@GaybrohamStinktonI mean, they could simply add the prices to the overlay after the host gives the right answer.
Love Spice. Glad to see them any time.
Unrelated, Guardian Chimera is possibly my favorite card design. Love it to death.
been out of the game for a few years but watching for spice, i had no fucking idea we got a new maxx c thats bonkers
I’d watch grass grow if spice is involved.
Great video!
I'd love to have some gameplay with some of these guests.
Little known fact they played rock paper scissors before shooting this and whoever lost had to shave their beard.
I’ve watched some of your videos regarding the difficulty of creating alternative yu-gi-oh format, and I have an idea so here’re my two cents:
Double Archetype format
Before the game, each player chooses 2 archetype keywords. For the rest of the game, if someone plays a card that mentions one of their 2 selected keywords, treat it as if it applied to both.
Eg: I chose "Unchained" and "Kuriboh" as my 2 words. I play Abomination's Prison. I can fetch either an Unchained or a Kuriboh monster.
That would create a different way of playing the game that expands the posibilities instead of limiting them.
I see Spice, I click the video. Simple as
MTG Legend is a well deserved title for this absolute giganerd. Good to see them smashing it too!
The only thing I can say for the future is to maybe include the card prices *later* as part of the reveal-for someone uneducated like me, it was definitely an indicator one way or another for stinker/staple.
18:23 Well, I’m a buffoon. That card’s *awesome*.
Yesss! Love seeing some more spice
Damn, I was so hyped for spice to go 5/5 I thought they had it but sadly I too am not a Yugioh player!
nice video cardmarket yugioh! spice8rack did amazing!
Rodenut is such a good card to use in this game because its ability seems so powerful but you give em the ol' bait and switch
So excited to see Spice give this a try and??? such astute observations
more videos like this please
and domain format
I am a simple man. I see Spice, I click
Spice my goat!!! Love them and their content so much.
nice vid :3 but i think it would be better to reveal the price only after revealing whether its good or bad, since the price might give it away beforehand (for people guessing at home)
"We need a Spice8Rack for Yugioh"
Spice:
new snash errata just dropped: sac snash + 2 monsters to summon exclusively and only from hand
I know for a fact that they asked Spice, "What should we refer to you as in the youtube title?" and he replied, "fucking legend mate". And it was so.
I was listening to the Guardian Chimera as a Magic player and the card sounds like a Siege Rhino - not good enough *anymore* but a menace of a bygone era. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just what it felt like to me looking at it.
the card is actually pretty good if the deck can use it, the main issue would be that not many decks can actually use it since only fusion focus decks can and many newer fusion archetype's fusion spell is unable to summon it by virtue of only being tailored to summon fusion monsters within the archetype and rarely anything outside of it so it hasnt seen much use recently but if a deck 'could' use it then it definitely would
guardian chimera is probably most well known to be used in branded/albaz decks because of 1 of their fusion spells called branded in red that is a quick play so it can be used on opponent's turn turning that destruction effect into a disruption when the opponent would least expect it
branded in red's effect is to return to the hand from grave any despia monster or specifically a monster called [fallen of albaz] and you can then fusion summon any lvl 8 or higher monster using monsters from either your hand and/or field (it doesnt have to include monsters you grabbed back either), the fact that it returns a despia/albaz to hand from grave preemptively means 1 of the requirements for guardian chimera is always live with it since it necessitates at least 1 monster from both location
Spice with the MacLeod tartan. Big respect
More with them please!
Best tcg format for TH-cam
15:20 Duress and Thoughtseize looking at the banned yugioh cards and sweating a bit
legend is absolutely right, it's the best writer in magic youtube right now
Spice should have just looked at the bottom right of the screen to see the card market values to make an informed decision.
If Spice was on the title I would've watched this video 10 hours when it was posted lol
I feel like Snake Eyes Ash is impossible to evaluate in a vacuum because it's entirely dependent on what it's searching. Plenty of terrible archetypes have cards with Stratos effects but because the cards it's searching are bad, the card is also bad
I was playing along, then realized that you can tell from the listed price.
Except for the last one!
The Staple has returned!
Spice8Rack is such a nice and handsome human
I know they cant see them but you can tell most of the staples by their price tag 😂
Vagnawa is interesting, since realistically I have never seen it before now, and my only thought upon having seen it is "I don't think this card needs a once per turn, you synchro spam three of it out and it gets at max 5400 burn. Unless I'm forgetting a good synchro burn archetype that's garbage."
There is 0 doubt in my mind that if it did not have a hard once per turn you would be able to find an FTK showcase (with
spice8rack!?!?!?!??!?!??!
Snake-eye "delightful combo"
.... If you only knew
Spice shaved and I had to check if this was an older video he looked so young 😅
Don't let Spice learn about the Invoked archetype based on Alchemy and Aleister Crowley, or D/D/D being noble figures turned into demons in company positions with lesser demons as minions, i feel like he would have something to talk about them.